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Fakes/No Shows - Is it true?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Ok, so a lot of threads here end up with the the Fakes/No Shows comments
It has never happened to us and has never happened to anyone we have chatted to. We (and those we have spoken to) always put it down to luck. Is it really? Or is it a bit of a rumour?
So not sure if this has been done before but to try to see if this really is such a huge issue how about everyone put down how many people they have come across in the last 12 months that :
A) Have turned out to be without a doubt a fake profile.
B) Have let them down with just not showing up.
So ours are obviously
A) 0
B) 0
Just curious  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"FAB, is full of ( fakes & no shows ). The site is riddled with it ( FACT ). "
So how many no shows have you had in the last 12 months from arranged meets? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A 0
B 0
That goes for when I was a single guy and spans a period of around 6 years. And I rarely, if ever have bothered with phone or cam contact beforehand either. |
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"FAB, is full of ( fakes & no shows ). The site is riddled with it ( FACT ). "
That may be so but if you fall for them then it's your own fault. The signs are there and if you use some common sense there's no reason to get caught out. |
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"FAB, is full of ( fakes & no shows ). The site is riddled with it ( FACT ).
That may be so but if you fall for them then it's your own fault. The signs are there and if you use some common sense there's no reason to get caught out. "
O dear guess alot of us are numpties then lol, o to be as good as |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As far as fake profiles go, how do people know they have not been taken in by one?
To say you have come across zero fakes may mean that you are poor at spotting them."
There is a massive difference between coming across fakes and being taken in by them |
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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago
Retirement Village |
"A 0
B 0
The reason why I've had 0 of each, I can tell fantasies from fantasists!
Plus most get bored keeping up the pretence  "
lucky bugger, my bull$hit detectors been out of sync for ages 
A = 0
B = 0
But i've not been looking too much  |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"As far as fake profiles go, how do people know they have not been taken in by one?
To say you have come across zero fakes may mean that you are poor at spotting them."
Because I have never had a no show!
Like I said earlier, a few fantasists maybe, but easily spotted!
Simple really! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So with No Shows, so far _oxy_minx, Wyrdwoman, crystal wheels, BigSuki81, y0rkshireterrier and Hollie_J seem to either be the luckiest or have their filtering technique sorted out.
Any of you happy to share why you think you don't have it happen to you?
We go on Veri's, Gut feeling and message content mostly. Gut feeling being the main one.
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"As far as fake profiles go, how do people know they have not been taken in by one?
To say you have come across zero fakes may mean that you are poor at spotting them.
There is a massive difference between coming across fakes and being taken in by them"
The OP does not ask about taken in by them - just has anyone come across them. If you haven't it could be because you were taken in.
Usually difficult to prove a negative fact! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Where do the men that say they want to meet but just want sex chat and pics come under?"
If they are saying they want to meet and don't then I would put them under fakes. If they are upfront about not wanting to meet then fair enough |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"So with No Shows, so far _oxy_minx, Wyrdwoman, crystal wheels, BigSuki81, y0rkshireterrier and Hollie_J seem to either be the luckiest or have their filtering technique sorted out.
Any of you happy to share why you think you don't have it happen to you?
We go on Veri's, Gut feeling and message content mostly. Gut feeling being the main one.
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Yeap! I'm a fussy biatch lol and take my time getting to know someone, if they are really interested, they will continue with how I do things, if they're not, they bugger off!
Just the way I filter |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A) 0 I have evidence of ... Few that have not replied after leading questions though ... But would never arrange to meet them anyway!!
B) 0 I'm very careful to make sure they really want it, phone call and all that b4... But a few pulled out the day b4 ! But not fake , just can't go through with it for some reason or another !! |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"So with No Shows, so far _oxy_minx, Wyrdwoman, crystal wheels, BigSuki81, y0rkshireterrier and Hollie_J seem to either be the luckiest or have their filtering technique sorted out.
Any of you happy to share why you think you don't have it happen to you?
We go on Veri's, Gut feeling and message content mostly. Gut feeling being the main one.
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I have a very rigorous filtering technique that involves requesting a face pic, reading and re-reading their profile, and not meeting as much as I used to. I was lucky with a few guys a while ago so have a couple of booty calls so am not desperate to meet strangers. I also reduced my one on one meets and go to clubs if I really need a good hard shag.
My problem isn't with fakes and no shows, it's with men who either will not commit to a meet or who will, then cancel or postpone more than once. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Yeap! I'm a fussy biatch lol and take my time getting to know someone, if they are really interested, they will continue with how I do things, if they're not, they bugger off!"
Sounds like fair comment and clearly is working |
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A) At a guess... about 2 or 3 a week minimum (100 - 150!)
B) 0
Either ""single" guys who turn out not to be, fems that turn out to be a trucker called "Trevor", or couples that turn out to be single guys.
After a while you develop an instinct, a few probing questions, or a good look at the profile, and you sense it.
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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago
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"So with No Shows, so far _oxy_minx, Wyrdwoman, crystal wheels, BigSuki81, y0rkshireterrier and Hollie_J seem to either be the luckiest or have their filtering technique sorted out.
Any of you happy to share why you think you don't have it happen to you?
We go on Veri's, Gut feeling and message content mostly. Gut feeling being the main one.
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J doesn't read all the other couples profile and associated veris and how it's crafted and ALL the words.
Hollie does. |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"Yeap! I'm a fussy biatch lol and take my time getting to know someone, if they are really interested, they will continue with how I do things, if they're not, they bugger off!
Sounds like fair comment and clearly is working "
It works for me! And as Hollie has said, men write totally different to women, which includes, profiles, pics and messages!
So to the 'couples' whose females have contacted me with 'it's hubbies birthday soon....'
You can easily tell who the real writer is  |
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I'm pretty rigorous at filtering, but have - and this is a guess - been taken in to some degree by a couple of fakes, and had 1 meet, where inappropriate notice was given of not being able to make it. So -
A 2
B 1
The greater the stress, the less willing someone is to be open, thoughtful and responsive to me, then the more my reservations are raised. And always need to chat on the phone first too, so that we can have interactive dialogue that's immediate, rather than a succession of messages each way. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So the consensus so far seems to be it is a case of being cautious and spending a fair bit of time making sure it all adds up? The profile, pictures, messages and everything else?
" men write totally different to women, which includes, profiles, pics and messages!"
Interesting - It is a shame our profile is down at the moment, we wrote half each so it would have been interesting to see if you could tell who had written which half |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So with No Shows, so far _oxy_minx, Wyrdwoman, crystal wheels, BigSuki81, y0rkshireterrier and Hollie_J seem to either be the luckiest or have their filtering technique sorted out.
Any of you happy to share why you think you don't have it happen to you?
We go on Veri's, Gut feeling and message content mostly. Gut feeling being the main one.
The main thing is communication, I always try and click through messaging a number of times first, exchange numbers or kik username. Verifications and gut instinct play a big part. But I can imagine a lot of no shows are down to last minute, meet now requests.If it seems too good to be true then it probably is.If someone mailed me out of the blue for a meet now I'd be inclined to think it was a wind up, however I have had one that wasn't (verification backs this up). All in all I think you need to build up a rapport with your potential play mates, this one builds up the excitement and two, if they are truly interested they will continue to exchange dialogue with you. However this is only my opinion and one that I have formed thorough my experiences on here.
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By *r mrs pCouple
over a year ago
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"Ok, so a lot of threads here end up with the the Fakes/No Shows comments
It has never happened to us and has never happened to anyone we have chatted to. We (and those we have spoken to) always put it down to luck. Is it really? Or is it a bit of a rumour?
So not sure if this has been done before but to try to see if this really is such a huge issue how about everyone put down how many people they have come across in the last 12 months that :
A) Have turned out to be without a doubt a fake profile.
B) Have let them down with just not showing up.
So ours are obviously
A) 0
B) 0
Just curious "
a) 0
b)0
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A) We've been on here for 3 years now I think ive lost count on the fake scale.. but most of them are couples or females.
B) 8, 1 couple and 7 guys (most recent 3 different guys in 1 week and only 1 gave notice.. be it an hour after he confirmed..).
I guess we got the most fakes when we started, now were more rigorous (i.e Google image search and Skype) before we add or arrange a meet especially with couples. |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"So the consensus so far seems to be it is a case of being cautious and spending a fair bit of time making sure it all adds up? The profile, pictures, messages and everything else?
men write totally different to women, which includes, profiles, pics and messages!
Interesting - It is a shame our profile is down at the moment, we wrote half each so it would have been interesting to see if you could tell who had written which half "
Now that is slightly different! You can usually tell if it is a couple or a single bloke! |
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A - lots. I've come across and reported lots of fake profiles (mostly from reverse image searching suspicious photos), only 1 I was actually chatting to and got friendly with before I realised they were having me on, the rest I just noticed from looking at the hot/newly uploaded pics etc.
B - never had a no show. |
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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago
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"Yeap! I'm a fussy biatch lol and take my time getting to know someone, if they are really interested, they will continue with how I do things, if they're not, they bugger off!
Sounds like fair comment and clearly is working
It works for me! And as Hollie has said, men write totally different to women, which includes, profiles, pics and messages!
So to the 'couples' whose females have contacted me with 'it's hubbies birthday soon....'
You can easily tell who the real writer is "
It was actually J
But I know my place |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"Yeap! I'm a fussy biatch lol and take my time getting to know someone, if they are really interested, they will continue with how I do things, if they're not, they bugger off!
Sounds like fair comment and clearly is working
It works for me! And as Hollie has said, men write totally different to women, which includes, profiles, pics and messages!
So to the 'couples' whose females have contacted me with 'it's hubbies birthday soon....'
You can easily tell who the real writer is
It was actually J
But I know my place"
I stand corrected But good to know! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Where do the men that say they want to meet but just want sex chat and pics come under?
If they are saying they want to meet and don't then I would put them under fakes. If they are upfront about not wanting to meet then fair enough "
they are never honest about it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Actually I misread A. So to revise the answer, profiles that I have engaged with where I have subsequently questioned whether they were a genuine couple - 1. Not worried about profiles that we pass by, there are lots of those for a multitude of reasons. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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All apart from on mystery of our 4 no shows are down to some of the meets we arrange.
If we do last minute arranged gb's or parties this is inevitable and we factor it in by inviting more.
So I'm certainly not wasting hours and days chatting to people who then let us down last minute.
The exception to that was a very long term fb who was on his way to us earlier in the year and never turned up. We'd known him about 8 years and met many times. We never had any text call or email to explain and his account went. Not miffed he didn't show, more upset we lost a friend and hope whatever happened that night he's okay and happy doing what he is.  |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"Actually I misread A. So to revise the answer, profiles that I have engaged with where I have subsequently questioned whether they were a genuine couple - 1. Not worried about profiles that we pass by, there are lots of those for a multitude of reasons."
Yeah, ok, I misread as well! Of course I've come across fakes and called them on it!
Never been taken in by them though, a big difference!  |
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By *igSuki81Man
over a year ago
Retirement Village |
"So with No Shows, so far _oxy_minx, Wyrdwoman, crystal wheels, BigSuki81, y0rkshireterrier and Hollie_J seem to either be the luckiest or have their filtering technique sorted out.
Any of you happy to share why you think you don't have it happen to you?
We go on Veri's, Gut feeling and message content mostly. Gut feeling being the main one.
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my response maybe skewing your results as i haven't been actively looking on here for a while and tend to meet a FWB when we are both free.
When i have searched i don't look at the pics (not straight away at least) i read their entire profile, what they're looking for and if they have any no-no's. If i dont meet their profile requirements i don't message, just perve on their pics lol.
Also i make it clear first meet is social unless WE BOTH AGREE to take it further. So no pressure on either parties
Apart from that i tend to flirt with anyone and everyone |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"tonnes of fakes(even verified),one no show(she was 'on her way'(and she was a she lol)
Then she re-read your profile and thought 'wtf am I doing?' "
thats just evil...I sat crying that nite.u bitch. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"tonnes of fakes(even verified),one no show(she was 'on her way'(and she was a she lol)
Then she re-read your profile and thought 'wtf am I doing?'
thats just evil...I sat crying that nite.u bitch."
Awwwww cum here, I'll lick it better.  |
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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago
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In the past year seen and chatted to a couple if fake profiles, realised but not been taken in by them.
No no shows in the last year but 2 the year before.
Could be just luck or my personal filters are more finely tuned.
So the answer for this last year
A 0
B 0 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So with No Shows, so far _oxy_minx, Wyrdwoman, crystal wheels, BigSuki81, y0rkshireterrier and Hollie_J seem to either be the luckiest or have their filtering technique sorted out.
Any of you happy to share why you think you don't have it happen to you? "
A very cynical and suspicious mind. Rarely messaging people till we've watched their statuses for a while. Ignoring vulgar and crude profiles while being interested in those that show personality. Ignoring poorly written profiles. Ignoring shit messasges, Ignoring messages that are primarily aimed at crystal. Ignoring pushy/needy people.
Oh and we go to clubs and are active on the kink scene. Surprisingly enough, arranging meets with people that we have previously met socially, and already know we like makes things much, much easier. |
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By *parkieeCouple
over a year ago
lisburn |
yes it does happen guys evan after chattin on phone and havin the cheek to text you for your address again sayin they are running late when they have no intention of ever turning up just fakes live and learn we always pre meet now |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So with No Shows, so far _oxy_minx, Wyrdwoman, crystal wheels, BigSuki81, y0rkshireterrier and Hollie_J seem to either be the luckiest or have their filtering technique sorted out.
Any of you happy to share why you think you don't have it happen to you?
A very cynical and suspicious mind. Rarely messaging people till we've watched their statuses for a while. Ignoring vulgar and crude profiles while being interested in those that show personality. Ignoring poorly written profiles. Ignoring shit messasges, Ignoring messages that are primarily aimed at crystal. Ignoring pushy/needy people.
Oh and we go to clubs and are active on the kink scene. Surprisingly enough, arranging meets with people that we have previously met socially, and already know we like makes things much, much easier."
Ignoring fuck me I was public enemy no1 earlier for suggesting that was acceptable! I bet you block
People as well don't you ? Eh? Go on admit it |
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"In the past year seen and chatted to a couple if fake profiles, realised but not been taken in by them.
So the answer for this last year
A 0
B 0"
If you have chatted to a couple of fakes how can A be 0?
I'm astonished by how many people cannot read/understand simple questions. |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
Titz Towers, North Notts |
A lots - but I go hunting in the new pics for net pics (sad, I know)
B on 1 - 1 meets 0
Dogging meets - 75 or so people asking when and where and then not showing. However, I do do a fair amount of dogging over a year. |
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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"In the past year seen and chatted to a couple if fake profiles, realised but not been taken in by them.
So the answer for this last year
A 0
B 0
If you have chatted to a couple of fakes how can A be 0?
I'm astonished by how many people cannot read/understand simple questions."
Because the difference is not being taken in by them! What's so hard to understand? Some people have common sense and others don't! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"A very cynical and suspicious mind. Rarely messaging people till we've watched their statuses for a while. Ignoring vulgar and crude profiles while being interested in those that show personality. Ignoring poorly written profiles. Ignoring shit messasges, Ignoring messages that are primarily aimed at crystal. Ignoring pushy/needy people.
Oh and we go to clubs and are active on the kink scene. Surprisingly enough, arranging meets with people that we have previously met socially, and already know we like makes things much, much easier."
Actually very similar to our approach, apart from the kink scene and cynical - no so much - suspicious yes |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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" Dogging meets - 75 or so people asking when and where and then not showing. However, I do do a fair amount of dogging over a year. "
I could be wrong as we have never done it but I would think that would attract a lot of dreamers? |
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"In the past year seen and chatted to a couple if fake profiles, realised but not been taken in by them.
So the answer for this last year
A 0
B 0
If you have chatted to a couple of fakes how can A be 0?
I'm astonished by how many people cannot read/understand simple questions.
Because the difference is not being taken in by them! What's so hard to understand? Some people have common sense and others don't!"
But the question was 'how many have you come across'
Is that difficult to understand? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"FAB, is full of ( fakes & no shows ). The site is riddled with it ( FACT ).
So how many no shows have you had in the last 12 months from arranged meets?"
None, he is a fake timewaster |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"FAB, is full of ( fakes & no shows ). The site is riddled with it ( FACT ).
So how many no shows have you had in the last 12 months from arranged meets?
None, he is a fake timewaster "
Who didn't show up |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"In the past year seen and chatted to a couple if fake profiles, realised but not been taken in by them.
So the answer for this last year
A 0
B 0
If you have chatted to a couple of fakes how can A be 0?
I'm astonished by how many people cannot read/understand simple questions.
Because the difference is not being taken in by them! What's so hard to understand? Some people have common sense and others don't!
But the question was 'how many have you come across'
Is that difficult to understand?"
The OP is a bit of fun, not a serious survey by Sydney University. Chill. |
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A few months ago I was chatting to a couple not in Sussex and it was all yeah yeah yeah come up and see us, make us smile sort of messages. So I did go up north. Day of the visit...BOOM!!!! Not answering my txts, user no longer online. Happily, I'd already arranged a fall-back so did that instead. I strongly suspect the couple are back on fab, new name, new pics, slightly different profile.
So one timewaster in over a year. A couple of people have cancelled or postponed but that's ok as real life gets in the way sometimes. |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
Titz Towers, North Notts |
" Dogging meets - 75 or so people asking when and where and then not showing. However, I do do a fair amount of dogging over a year.
I could be wrong as we have never done it but I would think that would attract a lot of dreamers? "
Yes, if you advertise a week in advance and get a very enthusiastic message from some guy 200 miles away, swearing blind that he will make a 400 mile round trip for 10 minutes of fun in a dark wood on what might be a cold wet miserable night, you do take it with a pinch of salt.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not one single no-show. Even the spur of the moment ones have shown up. Maybe that's because i don't go messaging profiles willy nilly though!
I honestly think that all those folk that are getting no-shows, are getting them from non verified, new, 18-27yo bi gals that are "total sluts and want dominated"! You know, the sort of profile that you can tell at a glance from a thousand feet away that it's a guy! |
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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago
South West London / Surrey |
We have a rule that if we are unsure of a profile for whatever reason then we just move along to the next one. Now that doesn't mean they are fake just that we don't spend any time to find out....
We have had a few last minute cancellations and a couple of people who ignored the check up message to confirm a meet the day or so before. But never had a actual no show...
Our selection / vetting process works very well for us. That and following our gut instinct. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Get a life, its a site for fun, not post mortems.
Full balls = empty heads.
People take responsibility for your decisions and actions,
stop moaning about other people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Get a life, its a site for fun, not post mortems.
Full balls = empty heads.
People take responsibility for your decisions and actions,
stop moaning about other people."
Do what i do! Always have a wank BEFORE coming on site. (no pun intended by the way, ).
That way, your little head doesn't over-ride your big head when checking and mailing profiles.
I'll grant you though, it's a bit awkward when your on the bus and want to log in! |
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"In the past year seen and chatted to a couple if fake profiles, realised but not been taken in by them.
So the answer for this last year
A 0
B 0
If you have chatted to a couple of fakes how can A be 0?
I'm astonished by how many people cannot read/understand simple questions.
Because the difference is not being taken in by them! What's so hard to understand? Some people have common sense and others don't!
But the question was 'how many have you come across'
Is that difficult to understand?"
Thank you, thought i was the only one who was pointing out the 0 fir A bit lol.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A 0
B 0
however A is a bit of a big answer as we have had real people with real profiles but what it said was a load of shite, so would that count as fake? |
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Think I've only really had 2 proper no shows...the first apologised a couple of days later after he was released from the cells for setting off on a motorbike that was registered as stolen (I declined making plans for a second attempt) and one where he claimed we had said a different day. Have had a few where I've half made meet arrangements knowing nothing would come of it just to shut them up (ie set a date but they've never managed to confirm a place/time)...do they count?! |
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An ppl who say sorry just not our type or just delete the message wen u don't put a cock pic an u ain't sent message ( hey darlin. Fancy a fuck
What is the point living back in Manchester u go out in town an gguentee a fuck or a blow job for a few drinks |
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Right then, sorry for the disappearing act over the weekend.
We were otherwise occupied all weekend
Anyway......
After extensive analysis of the results the conclusions that I have drawn and will publish shortly in my peer reviewed papers are :
1) 52% of posters have been let down by a no show in the last 12 months
2) Out of that 52% the split was absolutely even between those who have been let down once and those who have been let down more than once in the last 12 months.
3) The figures regarding fakes were impossible to decipher.
4) It is impossible to have any thread on Fab Forums without someone having a squabble
So what does this mean? Out of the sample taken No-Shows are obviously are an issue but it seems it is possible to reduce it by careful choice and checking. It would also seem that experience really does make you wiser in the swinging world
Is this important? Not really but it was good fun so thank you |
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over a year ago
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A) 2 - just got wierd vibes.
B) 3 no shows - all guys I'd met before, no message at all, just didn't show and never contacted again. Delete and block. I haven't got time for that. |
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Lots of fakes on here pretending to be a couple they just a man saying wifey given pernmission.when you ask to soeak to wifey you never can. No shows had a few even by people we had met already .never meet them again.if plans change or something comes up you can always text or message .not to show is just plain rude in my book.i would never do that to someone else .poppyxx |
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over a year ago
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A 1
B 0
Not bothered about Trevor the truckie pretending to be a bi female / couple to see private pics, if we didn't want people to see them then we wouldn't have uploaded them! only count fakes as those who arrange a meet they obviously can't deliver on. |
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A 2
B 0
More fake 'couples' imo.
Prolly need to add fantasts....too many
Some people actually do get off by just being on here. Dunno how to classify those
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Since I am openly looking for single males, I don't get "fake" couples. Clearly, wankers attack me with their "single male" profiles.
As for no shows - 5 in last half a year ish. 1 fem, 1 couple, 3 guys.
As well, I did "no show" once, but guy started to send me abusive texts just before meeting, so I just turned around and went back home. |
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"So with No Shows, so far _oxy_minx, Wyrdwoman, crystal wheels, BigSuki81, y0rkshireterrier and Hollie_J seem to either be the luckiest or have their filtering technique sorted out.
Any of you happy to share why you think you don't have it happen to you?
We go on Veri's, Gut feeling and message content mostly. Gut feeling being the main one.
My problem isn't with fakes and no shows, it's with men who either will not commit to a meet or who will, then cancel or postpone more than once."
I find this too and it's go bloody annoying |
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A - No less than 20, but we cut them off as soon as we know (we tineye and search everybody).
B - Zero. Not one meet. Nobody wants to meet us, because we are still news for the site!
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For us before Rachel got a regular fb it was
1 no show (very first meet we arranged of FAB. Guy text us after to say he had been there and from what he said it was clear he had been close enough to see us - well weird)
Had 2 where guys were all yes,yes let's meet and then on both occasions the day before said they couldn't due to work, end of the world, wife has going to be home etc etc.
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