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"More and more couples seem to be seeking a single bi female . Our question is this - Exactly what do you think the experience will do for you individually , collectively as a couple , and most importantly for the single bi emale ? The reason we ask is that it seems so many couples insist on ONLY a single girl , no partner ir husband present . Should we deduce that this may be so the couple calls all the shots ? And if so whats in it for the girl ? We have played with single bi females ( and all parties have thoroughly enjoyed it ) but have been surprised that the concensus amongst them is that playing with couples leaves them feeling used, or like a new toy , so it's small wonder they choose not to answer the ever increasing requests from predominantly inexperienced couples . " Thats a good point why should they get to play as a couple while the female has to be single lollll  | |||
"luckily I have not experienced felling used or as a toy, in all 3sum situations it has been mutual fun that we have all enjoyed." Feeling* | |||
"luckily I have not experienced feeling used or as a toy, in all 3sum situations it has been mutual fun that we have all enjoyed." Ditto  | |||
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"See this scenario has often made me wonder, and truth be told, I am so glad I am straight! Most posts I have seen disregard the single females right for safety, and insist they meet them alone, ie there is 2 in one party and one in another, why do couples think this is ok? I am fascinated to be honest "this is why I only meet in clubs. I have also played straight in a 3sum situation and had fun that way too  | |||
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"Thats a good point why should they get to play as a couple while the female has to be single lollll ""Sometimes" its not about the girl gets out of it but rather what the couple get out of it. Believe it or not there are soome couples that find the concept of anopther man shagging the female half offensive... but have absolutely no problem playing with a single female. Note.. I said "some". I've found sometimes the same couples are the ones where the male half is quick to drop the immortal line "Single guys bring nothing to the table" Note, I still said "some". This is in no way a statistical measure of how many couples (not that I have a number in mind). But a lot of some of these same couples forget any sexual interaction should be enjoyable for all.. rather than just one party entertaining the other(s) as a play toy. | |||
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"i have never felt used by couples, however i have met far to many insecure couples who end up falling out that its put me totally off meeting them" We have also found that with some couples, unfortunately. | |||
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"I'm yet to meet a couple purely because of the safety issues.... I've explained that I would bring my friend on a social meet so he knows where I am and who I'm with but this has always gone down like a lead balloon" This is such a sensible way of meeting and I find it odd that people would decline this. After all it is a social! Plus, it would make you far more relaxed and as a result conversation would flow better. | |||
"More and more couples seem to be seeking a single bi female . Our question is this - Exactly what do you think the experience will do for you individually , collectively as a couple , and most importantly for the single bi emale ? The reason we ask is that it seems so many couples insist on ONLY a single girl , no partner ir husband present . Should we deduce that this may be so the couple calls all the shots ? And if so whats in it for the girl ? We have played with single bi females ( and all parties have thoroughly enjoyed it ) but have been surprised that the concensus amongst them is that playing with couples leaves them feeling used, or like a new toy , so it's small wonder they choose not to answer the ever increasing requests from predominantly inexperienced couples . " Read your profile shame I'm not in your age range. 
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"I'm yet to meet a couple purely because of the safety issues.... I've explained that I would bring my friend on a social meet so he knows where I am and who I'm with but this has always gone down like a lead balloon" Exactly ... This is hopefully going to get some of the couples who post their desire to meet girls like yourself , think carefully about the insistence of the girl being on her own . | |||
"I'm yet to meet a couple purely because of the safety issues.... I've explained that I would bring my friend on a social meet so he knows where I am and who I'm with but this has always gone down like a lead balloon" then you made the right choice, if they have nothing to hide they would have no problem with you taking a friend for a social meet first for your safty | |||
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"Single bi females are not elusive on this site. Period!! They're everywhere!! Lol " exactly! but we are a lot nore selective than say, a couple where the fem is bi curious and the male has a fantasy that involves 2 women, as is often the case....and it is because of that and a few other personal reasons that I won't play with couples  | |||
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"I'm yet to meet a couple purely because of the safety issues.... I've explained that I would bring my friend on a social meet so he knows where I am and who I'm with but this has always gone down like a lead balloon then you made the right choice, if they have nothing to hide they would have no problem with you taking a friend for a social meet first for your safty " | |||
"We like playing with both couples and single females. However i imagine for those who only seek females it may be due to the following; If the female of the couple is bisexual, playing with a single female allows her to indulge in her sexual appetite for the female form as well as having the pleasure of her partner their beside her. Not all females part of a couple seek another man." This. Totally... | |||
"Single bi females are not elusive on this site. Period!! They're everywhere!! Lol exactly! but we are a lot nore selective than say, a couple where the fem is bi curious and the male has a fantasy that involves 2 women, as is often the case....and it is because of that and a few other personal reasons that I won't play with couples " | |||
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Its all about preference and respect as long as these are talked about and maintained then fun times are to be had, remove them and disaster and negativity looms | |||
"Interesting topic ! From our point of view we have met plenty of single fems both in clubs and socially. Its all about how you come across as a couple, if you project yourselves correctly then the fem will never feel used, intimidated etc. As a couple its your role to make her feel safe, involved and fully accepted into the play with both of you, if that happens then none of the negative feelings will happen and you all walk away feeling satisfied and happy
Its all about preference and respect as long as these are talked about and maintained then fun times are to be had, remove them and disaster and negativity looms "Good post. Very strange first post in our opinion. There are a number of weird assumptions that don't make any sense, and seem to miss the fairly obvious point that some couples and single bi women just like playing together! If anything, the opening post comes across more like a convoluted 'look at us' post, for the benefit of any of those 'elusive bi females' who may be reading.  | |||
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"Interesting topic ! From our point of view we have met plenty of single fems both in clubs and socially. Its all about how you come across as a couple, if you project yourselves correctly then the fem will never feel used, intimidated etc. As a couple its your role to make her feel safe, involved and fully accepted into the play with both of you, if that happens then none of the negative feelings will happen and you all walk away feeling satisfied and happy
Its all about preference and respect as long as these are talked about and maintained then fun times are to be had, remove them and disaster and negativity looms "Couldn't have put it better ! | |||
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"Couples seeking the single bi fem is not new, nor unexpected. I do enjoy a ffm, however pref a single man and another single woman. Recently a lot of (single) men have also been asking me for a ffm. Years of being called a 'unicorn' or a 'fantasy' means I don't even allow couples to email me on here. The single bi female friends I have that did meet with couples, now only meet with them in clubs and not even arranged through here anymore. Finding someone you want to play with is hard, finding 2 people is harder, avoiding the jealous/insecure/mans fantasy/ is harder still. Then personally the biggest deterrent I've heard recently is the 'bi curious' lady, not actually being bi curious. Or as I heard from here being a 'pillow princess'. As with single male bashing, it takes only a few to spoil it for the masses. Give me mmf any day. It's easier to arrange, the blokes are usually laid back, there to enjoy and not holding many years of built up fantasy/porn style expectations. Personally, I'd much rather have an intimate 1 on 1 with a lovely lady, without watchers than join a couple for their 'experience' " | |||
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"I've played with 2 couples now and both times it was all about the females part of the couples fun, the men just watched and I wasn't even touched by either. I came home and used my toy so I would think long and hard about ever meeting another couple!! "Sounds like you've been unlucky enough to meet the pillow princess types. Did the female not play with you at all? That really puts me off. I've met a few women that were only pretending to be bi for their man to watch. | |||
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"I'm yet to meet a couple purely because of the safety issues.... I've explained that I would bring my friend on a social meet so he knows where I am and who I'm with but this has always gone down like a lead balloon" To be fair, I have been put in the situation where another girl has let me down grossly, so bringing a male friend to a social for security reasons is a sensible request to me! L x | |||
"I've played with 2 couples now and both times it was all about the females part of the couples fun, the men just watched and I wasn't even touched by either. I came home and used my toy so I would think long and hard about ever meeting another couple!!
Sounds like you've been unlucky enough to meet the pillow princess types. Did the female not play with you at all?
That really puts me off. I've met a few women that were only pretending to be bi for their man to watch. "No, she met the opposite of a pillow princess, whatever that is...a pillow prince, presumably! | |||
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"Some messages bear out our original thoughts and others show it is possible for the ffm to work well for all parties . Hopefully the couples seeking exclusively single bi females will have read and learned from the thread . "Can't see anything new in here that hasn't been posted a thousand times (by mostly the same people). It's all common sense. If a couple need to be told to be considerate of the feelings and safety of a woman they are inviting to share a bed with them, reading it here isn't going to make any difference. | |||
"Some messages bear out our original thoughts and others show it is possible for the ffm to work well for all parties . Hopefully the couples seeking exclusively single bi females will have read and learned from the thread .
Can't see anything new in here that hasn't been posted a thousand times (by mostly the same people).
It's all common sense. If a couple need to be told to be considerate of the feelings and safety of a woman they are inviting to share a bed with them, reading it here isn't going to make any difference."Yet again you seem to feel the need to have a dig ! | |||
"Some messages bear out our original thoughts and others show it is possible for the ffm to work well for all parties . Hopefully the couples seeking exclusively single bi females will have read and learned from the thread .
Can't see anything new in here that hasn't been posted a thousand times (by mostly the same people).
It's all common sense. If a couple need to be told to be considerate of the feelings and safety of a woman they are inviting to share a bed with them, reading it here isn't going to make any difference.
Yet again you seem to feel the need to have a dig !
"Is it a dig? It's an opinion. Not every post has to agree with yours, you know. | |||
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"Some messages bear out our original thoughts and others show it is possible for the ffm to work well for all parties . Hopefully the couples seeking exclusively single bi females will have read and learned from the thread .
Can't see anything new in here that hasn't been posted a thousand times (by mostly the same people).
It's all common sense. If a couple need to be told to be considerate of the feelings and safety of a woman they are inviting to share a bed with them, reading it here isn't going to make any difference."That last paragraph is a very good point actually. The ones that should be reading, probably won't be.  | |||
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"Simple really.... A single fem hasn't got a Willy. Therefore there's no macho threat..... I've met couples and thoroughly enjoyed but I don't think any of the couple's I met were specifically looking for a lone single fem. X" That is true if you don't go hunting for lone females they will find you, the less desperate you seem in wanting to meet a single female makes them feel more comfortable & less threatened in the long run. | |||
"Simple really.... A single fem hasn't got a Willy. Therefore there's no macho threat..... I've met couples and thoroughly enjoyed but I don't think any of the couple's I met were specifically looking for a lone single fem. X That is true if you don't go hunting for lone females they will find you, the less desperate you seem in wanting to meet a single female makes them feel more comfortable & less threatened in the long run." We totally agree with this! I have to admit that we haven't gone hunting for single bi females.... | |||
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"I think couples who only play with single bifems result from male half insecurity about being compared with another man. Seeing your wife playing with another girl will never be threatening... " That's a bit of a generalisation, and completely wrong in our case. Tina is bi and doesn't play with other guys, therefore we look for single bi fems. Nothing to do with insecurity. | |||
"Haven't you been reading the thread? You may not realise but all single bi females are being forced into unsafe sexual situations by ignorant and insecure couples made up of women pretending to be bisexual and men who are scared of male competition, whose only goal is to use them as a mute sexual toy before flinging them back into the street unsatisfied and without any regard for their sexual pleasure and fulfilment...and without even calling them a taxi, probably. It shouldn't be allowed! "ha ha ha love it | |||
"I think couples who only play with single bifems result from male half insecurity about being compared with another man. Seeing your wife playing with another girl will never be threatening... That's a bit of a generalisation, and completely wrong in our case. Tina is bi and doesn't play with other guys, therefore we look for single bi fems. Nothing to do with insecurity." | |||
"Haven't you been reading the thread? You may not realise but all single bi females are being forced into unsafe sexual situations by ignorant and insecure couples made up of women pretending to be bisexual and men who are scared of male competition, whose only goal is to use them as a mute sexual toy before flinging them back into the street unsatisfied and without any regard for their sexual pleasure and fulfilment...and without even calling them a taxi, probably. It shouldn't be allowed! ha ha ha love it "made me actually laugh out loud too | |||
"Haven't you been reading the thread? You may not realise but all single bi females are being forced into unsafe sexual situations by ignorant and insecure couples made up of women pretending to be bisexual and men who are scared of male competition, whose only goal is to use them as a mute sexual toy before flinging them back into the street unsatisfied and without any regard for their sexual pleasure and fulfilment...and without even calling them a taxi, probably. It shouldn't be allowed! " | |||
"We are a couple who only meet with single females because I enjoy being with a female. I am very happy with just the one cock in my life and do not want another. " Just quoting for convenience, the thoughts that follow do not pertain to the couple quoted This is a view I have heard repeatedly but what puzzles me is, why only single fems? If the female half of another couple held the same view then what's the problem. Or is it as so often occurs that his is the only cock for her but he'll happily put it in somebody else should the opportunity arise? | |||
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"We are a couple who only meet with single females because I enjoy being with a female. I am very happy with just the one cock in my life and do not want another. Just quoting for convenience, the thoughts that follow do not pertain to the couple quoted This is a view I have heard repeatedly but what puzzles me is, why only single fems? If the female half of another couple held the same view then what's the problem. Or is it as so often occurs that his is the only cock for her but he'll happily put it in somebody else should the opportunity arise?" What works for one couple won't work for another... If they are happy with that then it's all good, what's the problem? | |||
"Safe to say that's two couples who won't be meeting anytime this side of a Timelord's regeneration?" | |||
"Safe to say that's two couples who won't be meeting anytime this side of a Timelord's regeneration?" This made us lol | |||
"Safe to say that's two couples who won't be meeting anytime this side of a Timelord's regeneration?" Hehe! | |||
"I've played with 2 couples now and both times it was all about the females part of the couples fun, the men just watched and I wasn't even touched by either. I came home and used my toy so I would think long and hard about ever meeting another couple!!
Sounds like you've been unlucky enough to meet the pillow princess types. Did the female not play with you at all?
That really puts me off. I've met a few women that were only pretending to be bi for their man to watch. "It seems I have been unlucky, but it has really put me off meeting couples. Both times they didnt touch me and now you mention it I wonder if the were only doing it for their men. | |||
"Safe to say that's two couples who won't be meeting anytime this side of a Timelord's regeneration? Hehe! "Brilliant Ahabs as usual | |||
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"A question for the op is why on earth would they have a single bi female profile then if they have partners that they wish to be present??" have you ever looked at single woman profiles? lol | |||
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"I am the "Elusive" Female as you put it tonight in a 3some meet.... So i will let you know just how i feel tomorrow, if the thread is not full or pulled before hand "I hope you have an amazing time and look forward to hearing about it xJessx | |||
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"A question for the op is why on earth would they have a single bi female profile then if they have partners that they wish to be present??" Same as the hundreds of others do | |||
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"A question for the op is why on earth would they have a single bi female profile then if they have partners that they wish to be present??" Huh ? Do you mean us ? | |||
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"Well we can see where the OP is coming from about single women being used as toys by couples. If we may regale you all with a story from 'Swingfields' this year, one that, well shocked us. We were sat down on the Saturday night with another couple and their single female friend. Anyway we were having a nice chin wag, when out of the night appears a bloke who acts very embarrassed. Now, we know this bloke as he is on his own, in his own tent sleeping next to the three people we were with. Anyway he says to the single female: "Sorry, I don't want to say this and I feel so embarrassed, but i'm with some friends over there and they were wondering if you are up for a 3sum as she has never had sex with a pregnant women before". As you can imagine a chilly wind started to blow and an owl hooted in the distance. Our female friend replied: "Sorry? So let me get this right. They want to have sex with me because i'm pregnant, not because they find me sexy, attractive or like me in any way, just because i'm pregnant? They also don't have the balls to come across and ask me themselves, sending you instead?" To cut a very long story short, when the female had calmed down she approached the couple and 'spoke' with them and sorted out the problem. So yes, unfortunately there are couples out there who treat single females as a toy and we don't blame them for only meeting on neutral ground of clubs. " An excellent point , and a very valid example ! Somewhat ironic that the couple involved in this were in fact us ! The story is 100 % true but for a couple of minor points as follows . 1 . The single guy in question was a very good friend , slightly worse for wear , and very aware we have had the ' pregnant girl ' on our bucket list for some time . He had been chatting with her the night before and pointed her out to us . Which led to him taking it upon himself to approach her - giving the impression it was on our request . 2. The implication that it was just because she was pregnant is way off the mark . We had ascertained she was extremely attractive beforehand and had no idea he was going to approach her the way he did . However this is the perfect example of what was meant in the original post and we would like to thank you for this excellent example . | |||
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"We are looking to play with a single woman just to add to our experiences we have had a few couple meets and several mmf .where wife has enjoyed having two guys pleasure her and two women pleasure her .she wants me to experience to fems put a smile on my face and to show how turned on we would make the other woman. "Well if it will add to your 'experiences' then I guess that's all I need to know. Unfortunately I might have heard that one, a few, hundreds of times. | |||
"We are looking to play with a single woman just to add to our experiences we have had a few couple meets and several mmf .where wife has enjoyed having two guys pleasure her and two women pleasure her .she wants me to experience to fems put a smile on my face and to show how turned on we would make the other woman. "So basically you want a single bi fem because it's one of the boxes that you haven't ticked yet? If I was a single bi fem and had read this as the reason you wanted to meet.... I would say no, as it comes across as.... The wife has had 2 males, so now it's my turn! And you just want to do it to add to your " experiences" I do think a fair number of couples just want to meet the elusive bi fem for all the wrong reasons! | |||
"We are looking to play with a single woman just to add to our experiences we have had a few couple meets and several mmf .where wife has enjoyed having two guys pleasure her and two women pleasure her .she wants me to experience to fems put a smile on my face and to show how turned on we would make the other woman.
So basically you want a single bi fem because it's one of the boxes that you haven't ticked yet?
If I was a single bi fem and had read this as the reason you wanted to meet.... I would say no, as it comes across as.... The wife has had 2 males, so now it's my turn! And you just want to do it to add to your " experiences"
I do think a fair number of couples just want to meet the elusive bi fem for all the wrong reasons!
"but what is the right reason? we want to meet the right single bu lady for V to experiment with, yet for all of us to be involved. surely there is no right or wrong reason to want to find someone, just for the searchee that doesnt want to be involved in certain scenarios | |||
"We are looking to play with a single woman just to add to our experiences we have had a few couple meets and several mmf .where wife has enjoyed having two guys pleasure her and two women pleasure her .she wants me to experience to fems put a smile on my face and to show how turned on we would make the other woman.
So basically you want a single bi fem because it's one of the boxes that you haven't ticked yet?
If I was a single bi fem and had read this as the reason you wanted to meet.... I would say no, as it comes across as.... The wife has had 2 males, so now it's my turn! And you just want to do it to add to your " experiences"
I do think a fair number of couples just want to meet the elusive bi fem for all the wrong reasons!
but what is the right reason?
we want to meet the right single bu lady for V to experiment with, yet for all of us to be involved.
surely there is no right or wrong reason to want to find someone, just for the searchee that doesnt want to be involved in certain scenarios"So are you saying it's ok to search out a bi fem to use as a guinea pig! Just to see if the wife likes it? Or just to please the male half of the couple? | |||
"More and more couples seem to be seeking a single bi female . Our question is this - Exactly what do you think the experience will do for you individually , collectively as a couple , and most importantly for the single bi emale ? The reason we ask is that it seems so many couples insist on ONLY a single girl , no partner ir husband present . Should we deduce that this may be so the couple calls all the shots ? And if so whats in it for the girl ? We have played with single bi females ( and all parties have thoroughly enjoyed it ) but have been surprised that the concensus amongst them is that playing with couples leaves them feeling used, or like a new toy , so it's small wonder they choose not to answer the ever increasing requests from predominantly inexperienced couples . " We sometimes wonder if there's a bit of insecurity/jealousy involved on the man's part. In as much as they don't mind their partner playing with another woman but don't like the idea of another man. We've found that when we've met other couples there's always periods of MMF FFM as well as the standard swapping. So why be so insistent on wanting a "single" woman?
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"We are looking to play with a single woman just to add to our experiences we have had a few couple meets and several mmf .where wife has enjoyed having two guys pleasure her and two women pleasure her .she wants me to experience to fems put a smile on my face and to show how turned on we would make the other woman.
So basically you want a single bi fem because it's one of the boxes that you haven't ticked yet?
If I was a single bi fem and had read this as the reason you wanted to meet.... I would say no, as it comes across as.... The wife has had 2 males, so now it's my turn! And you just want to do it to add to your " experiences"
I do think a fair number of couples just want to meet the elusive bi fem for all the wrong reasons!
but what is the right reason?
we want to meet the right single bu lady for V to experiment with, yet for all of us to be involved.
surely there is no right or wrong reason to want to find someone, just for the searchee that doesnt want to be involved in certain scenarios
So are you saying it's ok to search out a bi fem to use as a guinea pig! Just to see if the wife likes it?
Or just to please the male half of the couple? "no, im not saying anything is right or wrong. its the single females that would determine if the reason thay are sought by couples is right for them or not. what im saying is, whether it be some kind of experiement, a wife trying to keep her husband by being a bt alternative, or a genuine couple that want to involve a 3rd person fully in their play, the reason is obviously right for THEM. its not really for other couples to decide other people are wrong for searching for what they want, by judging them for what they want themselves. however, those selfish couples, that dont treat the third party properly, do make it more difficult for the ones that would genuinely like to have a proper 3some. think that makes sense lol | |||
"It seems to be quite difficult for some people in this thread to understand that the bi woman in a couple may not want to have sex with another man, but does want to have sex with another bi woman...as a couple. That will answer many questions, including the one above, if given a moment's consideration." absolutely us all over. neither of us have any interest in having full sex with anyone else, hence we soft swap. single men are happy to meet with us becuase oral sex is enjoyable, and as long as they empty their balls everyones a winner lol, however, we feel we find it harder to meet a single lady simply because i have no interest in having full sex with another woman, ad many women do not want an evening of oral sex and strap ons lol. | |||
"We are looking to play with a single woman just to add to our experiences we have had a few couple meets and several mmf .where wife has enjoyed having two guys pleasure her and two women pleasure her .she wants me to experience to fems put a smile on my face and to show how turned on we would make the other woman.
So basically you want a single bi fem because it's one of the boxes that you haven't ticked yet?
If I was a single bi fem and had read this as the reason you wanted to meet.... I would say no, as it comes across as.... The wife has had 2 males, so now it's my turn! And you just want to do it to add to your " experiences"
I do think a fair number of couples just want to meet the elusive bi fem for all the wrong reasons!
but what is the right reason?
we want to meet the right single bu lady for V to experiment with, yet for all of us to be involved.
surely there is no right or wrong reason to want to find someone, just for the searchee that doesnt want to be involved in certain scenarios
So are you saying it's ok to search out a bi fem to use as a guinea pig! Just to see if the wife likes it?
Or just to please the male half of the couple?
no, im not saying anything is right or wrong.
its the single females that would determine if the reason thay are sought by couples is right for them or not.
what im saying is, whether it be some kind of experiement, a wife trying to keep her husband by being a bt alternative, or a genuine couple that want to involve a 3rd person fully in their play, the reason is obviously right for THEM.
its not really for other couples to decide other people are wrong for searching for what they want, by judging them for what they want themselves.
however, those selfish couples, that dont treat the third party properly, do make it more difficult for the ones that would genuinely like to have a proper 3some.
think that makes sense lol"Yes that makes sense now! And hopefully the couples seeking the bi fems will be honest with them as to what they are looking for, so that she can make a decision on whether they all meet | |||
"We are looking to play with a single woman just to add to our experiences we have had a few couple meets and several mmf .where wife has enjoyed having two guys pleasure her and two women pleasure her .she wants me to experience to fems put a smile on my face and to show how turned on we would make the other woman.
So basically you want a single bi fem because it's one of the boxes that you haven't ticked yet?
If I was a single bi fem and had read this as the reason you wanted to meet.... I would say no, as it comes across as.... The wife has had 2 males, so now it's my turn! And you just want to do it to add to your " experiences"
I do think a fair number of couples just want to meet the elusive bi fem for all the wrong reasons!
but what is the right reason?
we want to meet the right single bu lady for V to experiment with, yet for all of us to be involved.
surely there is no right or wrong reason to want to find someone, just for the searchee that doesnt want to be involved in certain scenarios
So are you saying it's ok to search out a bi fem to use as a guinea pig! Just to see if the wife likes it?
Or just to please the male half of the couple?
no, im not saying anything is right or wrong.
its the single females that would determine if the reason thay are sought by couples is right for them or not.
what im saying is, whether it be some kind of experiement, a wife trying to keep her husband by being a bt alternative, or a genuine couple that want to involve a 3rd person fully in their play, the reason is obviously right for THEM.
its not really for other couples to decide other people are wrong for searching for what they want, by judging them for what they want themselves.
however, those selfish couples, that dont treat the third party properly, do make it more difficult for the ones that would genuinely like to have a proper 3some.
think that makes sense lol
Yes that makes sense now!
And hopefully the couples seeking the bi fems will be honest with them as to what they are looking for, so that she can make a decision on whether they all meet "phew, i read it back 3 times, and still wasnt sure lol | |||
"It seems to be quite difficult for some people in this thread to understand that the bi woman in a couple may not want to have sex with another man, but does want to have sex with another bi woman...as a couple. That will answer many questions, including the one above, if given a moment's consideration." By the definition of bi , the woman enjoys cock too . On the occasions we have enjoyed the company of a single bi woman it has been mutual pleasure for all three of us . Now this is the interesting bit , my personal pleasure often comes from the watching and yet in the ffm meets I have always joined in ! Nit because it's what's been planned , but because it's what we have all wanted . Without including club ffm meets ( which would be perhaps a dozen or so ) we have had twenty or so ffm meets on here ( we have been on fab on and off for two and a half years now ). Each has been wonderful for all concerned , so I am not saying it shouldn't happen , or that couples shouldn't desire it . But fir us it has always just happened as a part of the whole swinging experience , it's never been the be all and end all . As has been suggested ,it's the couples who insist it's all they want that seem unhappy at the lack of available single bi females who want to meet them . | |||
"It seems to be quite difficult for some people in this thread to understand that the bi woman in a couple may not want to have sex with another man, but does want to have sex with another bi woman...as a couple. That will answer many questions, including the one above, if given a moment's consideration. By the definition of bi , the woman enjoys cock too . On the occasions we have enjoyed the company of a single bi woman it has been mutual pleasure for all three of us . Now this is the interesting bit , my personal pleasure often comes from the watching and yet in the ffm meets I have always joined in ! Nit because it's what's been planned , but because it's what we have all wanted . Without including club ffm meets ( which would be perhaps a dozen or so ) we have had twenty or so ffm meets on here ( we have been on fab on and off for two and a half years now ). Each has been wonderful for all concerned , so I am not saying it shouldn't happen , or that couples shouldn't desire it . But fir us it has always just happened as a part of the whole swinging experience , it's never been the be all and end all . As has been suggested ,it's the couples who insist it's all they want that seem unhappy at the lack of available single bi females who want to meet them . " Can't really see how any of that relates to what we said, but good for you, you sound like you are having fun! | |||
" Can't really see how any of that relates to what we said, but good for you, you sound like you are having fun! "thank the lord im not the only one that couldnt see the relevance. thought it was just me not reading it right | |||
"We are looking to play with a single woman just to add to our experiences we have had a few couple meets and several mmf .where wife has enjoyed having two guys pleasure her and two women pleasure her .she wants me to experience to fems put a smile on my face and to show how turned on we would make the other woman.
So basically you want a single bi fem because it's one of the boxes that you haven't ticked yet?
If I was a single bi fem and had read this as the reason you wanted to meet.... I would say no, as it comes across as.... The wife has had 2 males, so now it's my turn! And you just want to do it to add to your " experiences"
I do think a fair number of couples just want to meet the elusive bi fem for all the wrong reasons!
but what is the right reason?
we want to meet the right single bu lady for V to experiment with, yet for all of us to be involved.
surely there is no right or wrong reason to want to find someone, just for the searchee that doesnt want to be involved in certain scenarios
So are you saying it's ok to search out a bi fem to use as a guinea pig! Just to see if the wife likes it?
Or just to please the male half of the couple?
no, im not saying anything is right or wrong.
its the single females that would determine if the reason thay are sought by couples is right for them or not.
what im saying is, whether it be some kind of experiement, a wife trying to keep her husband by being a bt alternative, or a genuine couple that want to involve a 3rd person fully in their play, the reason is obviously right for THEM.
its not really for other couples to decide other people are wrong for searching for what they want, by judging them for what they want themselves.
however, those selfish couples, that dont treat the third party properly, do make it more difficult for the ones that would genuinely like to have a proper 3some.
think that makes sense lol
Yes that makes sense now!
And hopefully the couples seeking the bi fems will be honest with them as to what they are looking for, so that she can make a decision on whether they all meet "That all makes sense to me. When I read the first bit about 'ticking boxes' I thought "ugh!" but then reading subsequent posts I've changed my mind. There is no right or wrong reason after all, as long as everyone is happy and knows the score. Going to think about this some more as it's changed my opinion a lot! In a good way... | |||
" Can't really see how any of that relates to what we said, but good for you, you sound like you are having fun!
thank the lord im not the only one that couldnt see the relevance.
thought it was just me not reading it right"The relevance is this . The constant forum posts from dissatisfied couples who can't find the single bi female to play with invariably have references along the lines of why ? The original post was designed to offer some insight , which it has . Of course it is not impossible to find what floats your boat on fab . It's more the strict criteria that inhibits opportunities to find it . My example of how we have had ' success ' may not be directly an example from the post quoted , but the relevance is still there surely ? | |||
"We are looking to play with a single woman just to add to our experiences we have had a few couple meets and several mmf .where wife has enjoyed having two guys pleasure her and two women pleasure her .she wants me to experience to fems put a smile on my face and to show how turned on we would make the other woman.
So basically you want a single bi fem because it's one of the boxes that you haven't ticked yet?
If I was a single bi fem and had read this as the reason you wanted to meet.... I would say no, as it comes across as.... The wife has had 2 males, so now it's my turn! And you just want to do it to add to your " experiences"
I do think a fair number of couples just want to meet the elusive bi fem for all the wrong reasons!
but what is the right reason?
we want to meet the right single bu lady for V to experiment with, yet for all of us to be involved.
surely there is no right or wrong reason to want to find someone, just for the searchee that doesnt want to be involved in certain scenarios
So are you saying it's ok to search out a bi fem to use as a guinea pig! Just to see if the wife likes it?
Or just to please the male half of the couple?
no, im not saying anything is right or wrong.
its the single females that would determine if the reason thay are sought by couples is right for them or not.
what im saying is, whether it be some kind of experiement, a wife trying to keep her husband by being a bt alternative, or a genuine couple that want to involve a 3rd person fully in their play, the reason is obviously right for THEM.
its not really for other couples to decide other people are wrong for searching for what they want, by judging them for what they want themselves.
however, those selfish couples, that dont treat the third party properly, do make it more difficult for the ones that would genuinely like to have a proper 3some.
think that makes sense lol
Yes that makes sense now!
And hopefully the couples seeking the bi fems will be honest with them as to what they are looking for, so that she can make a decision on whether they all meet
That all makes sense to me. When I read the first bit about 'ticking boxes' I thought "ugh!" but then reading subsequent posts I've changed my mind. There is no right or wrong reason after all, as long as everyone is happy and knows the score.
Going to think about this some more as it's changed my opinion a lot! In a good way... "im glad all of us, and my stumpy typing fingers have been able to help lol. | |||
" Can't really see how any of that relates to what we said, but good for you, you sound like you are having fun!
thank the lord im not the only one that couldnt see the relevance.
thought it was just me not reading it right
The relevance is this .
The constant forum posts from dissatisfied couples who can't find the single bi female to play with invariably have references along the lines of why ?
The original post was designed to offer some insight , which it has .
Of course it is not impossible to find what floats your boat on fab . It's more the strict criteria that inhibits opportunities to find it .
My example of how we have had ' success ' may not be directly an example from the post quoted , but the relevance is still there surely ?
"Well...no. For a start, you seem to be saying that the way for people to find what they are looking for on here is to look for something else entirely, which makes no sense. Then, you follow it up by saying you have met loads of single bi females, without explaining how that is any different to what you think people are looking for. And that for some reason, that you like to watch is 'interesting'. You may think you are being insightful, but it's completely lost on us if you are, sorry! | |||
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"We are looking to play with a single woman just to add to our experiences we have had a few couple meets and several mmf .where wife has enjoyed having two guys pleasure her and two women pleasure her .she wants me to experience to fems put a smile on my face and to show how turned on we would make the other woman.
So basically you want a single bi fem because it's one of the boxes that you haven't ticked yet?
If I was a single bi fem and had read this as the reason you wanted to meet.... I would say no, as it comes across as.... The wife has had 2 males, so now it's my turn! And you just want to do it to add to your " experiences"
I do think a fair number of couples just want to meet the elusive bi fem for all the wrong reasons!
but what is the right reason?
we want to meet the right single bu lady for V to experiment with, yet for all of us to be involved.
surely there is no right or wrong reason to want to find someone, just for the searchee that doesnt want to be involved in certain scenarios"
The reasons to look for a single bi fem...or even another couple, or single guy, or pregnant lady, or bbc, or tv/ts or anything else are all in some way to 'tick off' a fantasy initially. If it's an enjoyable experience then it becomes more than a fantasy and something to explore. It could be argued that I have 'used' the couples I have met to explore my fantasy of playing with a woman, and maybe I have, but it's how you put that across I think that makes the difference.
We all have fantasies, but think people could put them across better than they do sometimes. I like to feel like I'm being included in the fantasy and everyone's enjoyment is important, not just like I'm a tool for someone else to use to cross something off a bucket list...hope that makes sense! x | |||
"We are looking to play with a single woman just to add to our experiences we have had a few couple meets and several mmf .where wife has enjoyed having two guys pleasure her and two women pleasure her .she wants me to experience to fems put a smile on my face and to show how turned on we would make the other woman.
So basically you want a single bi fem because it's one of the boxes that you haven't ticked yet?
If I was a single bi fem and had read this as the reason you wanted to meet.... I would say no, as it comes across as.... The wife has had 2 males, so now it's my turn! And you just want to do it to add to your " experiences"
I do think a fair number of couples just want to meet the elusive bi fem for all the wrong reasons!
but what is the right reason?
we want to meet the right single bu lady for V to experiment with, yet for all of us to be involved.
surely there is no right or wrong reason to want to find someone, just for the searchee that doesnt want to be involved in certain scenarios
The reasons to look for a single bi fem...or even another couple, or single guy, or pregnant lady, or bbc, or tv/ts or anything else are all in some way to 'tick off' a fantasy initially. If it's an enjoyable experience then it becomes more than a fantasy and something to explore. It could be argued that I have 'used' the couples I have met to explore my fantasy of playing with a woman, and maybe I have, but it's how you put that across I think that makes the difference.
We all have fantasies, but think people could put them across better than they do sometimes. I like to feel like I'm being included in the fantasy and everyone's enjoyment is important, not just like I'm a tool for someone else to use to cross something off a bucket list...hope that makes sense! x" | |||
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"What I think is funny the amount of messages we get asking for me (Charlie) to go play alone to make up a mff. Which I have dun. But never first meet. But when I ask if they will reply the fav I get told full stop no. Lol" we have it on our profile, simply because we always get the male half of a couple asking if we fancy a 3some with them lol | |||
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"The key word in this is preference ! Whether its ticking a box, exploring, having fun or just something you both enjoy its all about personal preference and what you choose to take out of the experience. To be slightly controversial and i mean this in its nicest possible way we are all using other members of fab to gain personal enjoyment of a sexual nature. That said its how you go about it that makes the experience. Be respectful , honest and upfront about what you want and what you can offer and you cant go wrong. We choose to do what we do because we enjoy it and it its an add on to our great sex life. " | |||
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"I am the "Elusive" Female as you put it tonight in a 3some meet.... So i will let you know just how i feel tomorrow, if the thread is not full or pulled before hand I hope you have an amazing time and look forward to hearing about it xJessx"I was caught in a problem, with first the male text to say he was tired and we called it off and wanted to make it another time. Then 1/2hr later i get a call from Him saying that it was back on, by this time i had decided that i wasn't going and said so. Later on in the evening i then get a text from the lady to say that she was pleased that i wasn't going because she wasn't feeling to well. I don't normally do FFM and the above has put me off!! I like my partner to be there with me playing in a 4some or more, it not only makes me feel safe but also reduces the risk of being played with then cast aside !! | |||
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"i agree with that about been just about the man as i get the men wanting to meet me on their own without the lady ffs whats all that about ??? "thats just men being men. we get it all the time too, men asking to have 2somes while the wife is otherwise indisposed. | |||
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