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over a year ago
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I remember meeting a guy at a party in bedford who was able to make any woman squirt. Two girls he demonstrated on had never squirted before in their lives.
Quite a party piece. |
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"I remember meeting a guy at a party in bedford who was able to make any woman squirt. Two girls he demonstrated on had never squirted before in their lives.
Quite a party piece."
Is he on here? Would love to meet him...:D..though I have squirted and gushed many times..:D...like it...:D..like when men ejaculate...it's also a visual form of climax...so most men like it..:D |
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over a year ago
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we've had this forum b4, as most know i can squirt like a firemans hose :-0 lol
when i moved onto my new house last year i christened it by decorating my bedroom wall , was a record for me lol .
and i too know a guy who can make any woman do it
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"anybody else like this ? female does this and its so horny we love it.we d love another female to do this on her.
any coments ?
is it a squirt or gush as there is a difference ?"
I do both...what makes the difference...care to elucidate....please |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think your seeking a man called Drew.. Part of a couple called Lou and Drew ..
Met them a long time ago.. and yes, apparantly he claims any woman can squirt lol.. |
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"anybody else like this ? female does this and its so horny we love it.we d love another female to do this on her.
any coments ?
is it a squirt or gush as there is a difference ?
I do both...what makes the difference...care to elucidate....please"
a squirt is a squirt , a gush is not a squirt lol
some cant do both
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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hi seen this forum thought i had to add my wee bit lol i used to see a girl a few years ago who squirt a hell of an awful lot all the time , didnt take much efort at all , turned me on big time !! |
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"anybody else like this ? female does this and its so horny we love it.we d love another female to do this on her.
any coments ?
is it a squirt or gush as there is a difference ?
I do both...what makes the difference...care to elucidate....please
a squirt is a squirt , a gush is not a squirt lol
some cant do both
Yes I know that much...I was just wondering about why...as I said I do both...and yes they are different....PD seemed to have an understanding of it and I thought he might educate me (and maybe others) as to what causes the difference
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over a year ago
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I find it really amazing and just so so sexy when it happens, combine it with the moaning or screams and any man that does to a woman, feels really great, wet but great!
Although, I know woman can do it to themselves quite easily, especially when buying new shoes! |
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"anybody else like this ? female does this and its so horny we love it.we d love another female to do this on her.
any coments ?
is it a squirt or gush as there is a difference ?
I do both...what makes the difference...care to elucidate....please
a squirt is a squirt , a gush is not a squirt lol
some cant do both
Yes I know that much...I was just wondering about why...as I said I do both...and yes they are different....PD seemed to have an understanding of it and I thought he might educate me (and maybe others) as to what causes the difference
x"
A gush comes from the inside walls of the vagina which release a "drench" to put the vagina into a alkali rather than acid state ...this is more helpul to sperm and helps with the upsuck from the top muscle ..pulling sperm towards the cervix.The amount released is governed by many factors but is a clear plasma fluid and definately not wee
The squirt comes from the paramethial glands ...think i spelt that right which is located either side of the uretha and along its length..which is why it looks like the woman is peeing
the purpose of this fluid is as yet unknown ...but research continues ..
Both are natural acts and its great that more women are letting it happen rather than suppressing it..largely because they were taught anything leaking from the vagina was bad ...
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"anybody else like this ? female does this and its so horny we love it.we d love another female to do this on her.
any coments ?
is it a squirt or gush as there is a difference ?
I do both...what makes the difference...care to elucidate....please
a squirt is a squirt , a gush is not a squirt lol
some cant do both
Yes I know that much...I was just wondering about why...as I said I do both...and yes they are different....PD seemed to have an understanding of it and I thought he might educate me (and maybe others) as to what causes the difference
x
A gush comes from the inside walls of the vagina which release a "drench" to put the vagina into a alkali rather than acid state ...this is more helpul to sperm and helps with the upsuck from the top muscle ..pulling sperm towards the cervix.The amount released is governed by many factors but is a clear plasma fluid and definately not wee
The squirt comes from the paramethial glands ...think i spelt that right which is located either side of the uretha and along its length..which is why it looks like the woman is peeing
the purpose of this fluid is as yet unknown ...but research continues ..
Both are natural acts and its great that more women are letting it happen rather than suppressing it..largely because they were taught anything leaking from the vagina was bad ...
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Thank you.....I always knew that when I gushed, I was not weeing (although have been told I was...and proved the point by both gushing and weeing into separate glesses and the result was indisputable)...but wasn't sure myself about the squirting...although again I've never believed it was me weeing. Thanks for the explanation xx |
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"anybody else like this ? female does this and its so horny we love it.we d love another female to do this on her.
any coments ?
is it a squirt or gush as there is a difference ?
I do both...what makes the difference...care to elucidate....please
a squirt is a squirt , a gush is not a squirt lol
some cant do both
Yes I know that much...I was just wondering about why...as I said I do both...and yes they are different....PD seemed to have an understanding of it and I thought he might educate me (and maybe others) as to what causes the difference
x
A gush comes from the inside walls of the vagina which release a "drench" to put the vagina into a alkali rather than acid state ...this is more helpul to sperm and helps with the upsuck from the top muscle ..pulling sperm towards the cervix.The amount released is governed by many factors but is a clear plasma fluid and definately not wee
The squirt comes from the paramethial glands ...think i spelt that right which is located either side of the uretha and along its length..which is why it looks like the woman is peeing
the purpose of this fluid is as yet unknown ...but research continues ..
Both are natural acts and its great that more women are letting it happen rather than suppressing it..largely because they were taught anything leaking from the vagina was bad ...
Thank you.....I always knew that when I gushed, I was not weeing (although have been told I was...and proved the point by both gushing and weeing into separate glesses and the result was indisputable)...but wasn't sure myself about the squirting...although again I've never believed it was me weeing. Thanks for the explanation xx"
The report was published by the university of new south wales who are doing the research into it ...have a link somewhere ....anyway rest assured you gushers its not WEE positive ...and its natural ..and it does not smell as its plasma ...but i have noticed that if its a first time for a woman who smokes the first squirt does have a slight smell which goes straight away ands does not happen again  |
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By *ichNjudyCouple
over a year ago
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" the purpose of this fluid is as yet unknown ...but research continues ..
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How do you get in on that research program, any ideas?
And yes there are a few men that can make any woman squirt from what we have seen - we met one at a party very recently who took it on as a personal mission to do it to every woman there and from what we saw he succeeded.....
Even on Ju and she didn't think she could ever do it at all before swinging (in fact had never even heard of such a thing) but maybe two or three guys have hit the button to date.
Interestingly enough Rich can do it to quite a few women - but never to Ju. Go figure eh lol
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over a year ago
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"anybody else like this ? female does this and its so horny we love it.we d love another female to do this on her.
any coments ?"
Yesterday Sasha experienced squirting (herself) for the first time thanks to some timely and kindly advice from some friends of ours, at first she was a little embarrassed by it, but after many assurances from me and showing her how much it turned me on to see and feel her do it she admitted it was the most intense orgasm she had experienced.
We are both looking forward to many more. |
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"I know its there with me but I hold it back and start laughing...I really need to concentrate more lol"
yeah it happends to a lot of woman but eventually if you have had a few drinks to relax you ...it will kick off ....
it is just technique on the guys part.
and easier once you have got the gspot to swell .fantastic feeling tho for the guy too ..i am addicted ... |
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"I know its there with me but I hold it back and start laughing...I really need to concentrate more lol
yeah it happends to a lot of woman but eventually if you have had a few drinks to relax you ...it will kick off ....
it is just technique on the guys part.
and easier once you have got the gspot to swell .fantastic feeling tho for the guy too ..i am addicted ..."
after a few drinks?? hmmm not sure about that one, i'm hard work anyway, but after a few drinks it's a near impossibility! |
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"I know its there with me but I hold it back and start laughing...I really need to concentrate more lol
yeah it happends to a lot of woman but eventually if you have had a few drinks to relax you ...it will kick off ....
it is just technique on the guys part.
and easier once you have got the gspot to swell .fantastic feeling tho for the guy too ..i am addicted ...
after a few drinks?? hmmm not sure about that one, i'm hard work anyway, but after a few drinks it's a near impossibility!"
yeah but your a nightmare ...!!!!! |
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"errrrrrrrrrrr ive been known to give the odd little squirt and gush pmsl.
i can vouch for that. and for the record, i'm a big fan of it. "
Think ive managed to get into the habit of finding good men that know what to do to bring it on lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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squirting is the sign of maximum enjoyment....i hold my hands up high lol....i just cant help it lol.....u'll need ur umberella's on a meet with me lol xx |
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"I know its there with me but I hold it back and start laughing...I really need to concentrate more lol
yeah it happends to a lot of woman but eventually if you have had a few drinks to relax you ...it will kick off ....
it is just technique on the guys part.
and easier once you have got the gspot to swell .fantastic feeling tho for the guy too ..i am addicted ...
after a few drinks?? hmmm not sure about that one, i'm hard work anyway, but after a few drinks it's a near impossibility!
yeah but your a nightmare ...!!!!!"
a nightmare?? hmph! thats it make me feel guilty now to why dont you!  |
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"I know its there with me but I hold it back and start laughing...I really need to concentrate more lol
yeah it happends to a lot of woman but eventually if you have had a few drinks to relax you ...it will kick off ....
it is just technique on the guys part.
and easier once you have got the gspot to swell .fantastic feeling tho for the guy too ..i am addicted ...
after a few drinks?? hmmm not sure about that one, i'm hard work anyway, but after a few drinks it's a near impossibility!
yeah but your a nightmare ...!!!!!
a nightmare?? hmph! thats it make me feel guilty now to why dont you! "
he he he ...your the only woman i know who can make a bloke gush ...lmao |
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"I know its there with me but I hold it back and start laughing...I really need to concentrate more lol
yeah it happends to a lot of woman but eventually if you have had a few drinks to relax you ...it will kick off ....
it is just technique on the guys part.
and easier once you have got the gspot to swell .fantastic feeling tho for the guy too ..i am addicted ...
after a few drinks?? hmmm not sure about that one, i'm hard work anyway, but after a few drinks it's a near impossibility!
yeah but your a nightmare ...!!!!!
a nightmare?? hmph! thats it make me feel guilty now to why dont you!
he he he ...your the only woman i know who can make a bloke gush ...lmao"
gush or dribble? there IS a difference  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i have a fem friend off another site who i meet alot and she squirts everytime she cums,some bigger than others and when they are big ones it takes alot out of her,but loves it.she doesnt like hard sex,when she is going to cum its better for her hitting the spot and doing that slowly,then get ready to get wet.love it.lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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im the same as diamond on this..
a few good men can and do manage it
the others......well they still got a long way to go as all guys cant do it or even bother trying  |
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"im the same as diamond on this..
a few good men can and do manage it
the others......well they still got a long way to go as all guys cant do it or even bother trying "
its not really hard to do its just technique and being in the zone ... |
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By *icekatCouple
over a year ago
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I find it hard not to squirt and gush and yes it feels good but I also feel emdarrassed and wish it did not happen, im sick of ceaning up after. I feel that I dare not let myself go and enjoy myself to much at a club and as I dont want to squirt and feel embarrassed. |
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"I find it hard not to squirt and gush and yes it feels good but I also feel emdarrassed and wish it did not happen, im sick of ceaning up after. I feel that I dare not let myself go and enjoy myself to much at a club and as I dont want to squirt and feel embarrassed."
men love it hun dont worry its normal just lye back and let go ...att home get one of those special sheets ...somepeople use tohose paddiling pool liners as they are only 4.95 easy to clean up they recon ...or just towels ,,,but dont hold it back there is no need .... |
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By *icekatCouple
over a year ago
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"I find it hard not to squirt and gush and yes it feels good but I also feel emdarrassed and wish it did not happen, im sick of ceaning up after. I feel that I dare not let myself go and enjoy myself to much at a club and as I dont want to squirt and feel embarrassed.
men love it hun dont worry its normal just lye back and let go ...att home get one of those special sheets ...somepeople use tohose paddiling pool liners as they are only 4.95 easy to clean up they recon ...or just towels ,,,but dont hold it back there is no need ...."
oh yes there is |
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I never have - must be really missing out - I'm a squirting/gushing virgin, although him indoors has had other ladies make him rush for his waterproofs. Must just be me, is there a doctor in the house with a cure for me? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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first time it haappened to me i cried!!!! But now???? Love it!!!! anyone know where I can buy a kingsized waterproof mattress? cover lol that doesnt resemble a polythene bag, something softer lol less sweaty
thats why im still awake at this time in the mornin lol waiting for the bed to dry!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have been known to do this but have absolutely no control over it,
The first time it happened to me I was absolutely mortified to the point I actually went to the dr's - not sure who was more embarrassed the dr or me - he could only suggest less foreplay !!! |
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"I have been known to do this but have absolutely no control over it,
The first time it happened to me I was absolutely mortified to the point I actually went to the dr's - not sure who was more embarrassed the dr or me - he could only suggest less foreplay !!! "
sod that....buy extra towels and have fun...lol |
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over a year ago
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"I know its there with me but I hold it back and start laughing...I really need to concentrate more lol
yeah it happends to a lot of woman but eventually if you have had a few drinks to relax you ...it will kick off ....
it is just technique on the guys part.
and easier once you have got the gspot to swell .fantastic feeling tho for the guy too ..i am addicted ..."
LOL quite unexpectedly I squirted for the first time last night and it was HUGE..It went halfway across the room I can't believe it came out of me!..I was so amazed that I had to do it again 10 mins later to check it was'nt a one off and it was'nt hahahaha Im impressed I have a new trick  |
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By *uicyJoWoman
over a year ago
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I too have never experienced this but really want too...its always fascinated me when i have been with women whom it has happened too. So any of these guys who know just what to do? send us a message lol  |
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"I too have never experienced this but really want too...its always fascinated me when i have been with women whom it has happened too. So any of these guys who know just what to do? send us a message lol "
I'm not guaranteeing I can do it everytime, but as someone who doesnt do penetrative sex, but relies on his hands and tongue to bring pleasure, Ive seena few women squirt in my time, one of whom remarked I was the first man who had made her squirt on first occasion together I'm happy to takethe gantlet and step up to the challenge
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By (user no longer on site)
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lee is gagging for a squirter or gusher lol.....i dont think all women can do it tho...and trust me weve tried....any women out there care 2 gush on lee lol xxx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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squirt gush every woman can just need someone that knows how to make it happen i'd been with gemma for 7 years and it had never happened met one single bloke who promised it would
guess wot he done it lol
so i got him to show me what he did an guess what
i've not met a woman that i havnt made gush
once again thanks superman |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"squirt gush every woman can just need someone that knows how to make it happen i'd been with gemma for 7 years and it had never happened met one single bloke who promised it would
guess wot he done it lol
so i got him to show me what he did an guess what
i've not met a woman that i havnt made gush
once again thanks superman "
Takes a bow!
Your welcome, it was a piece of piss actually, just made sure I gargled with vodka first!! |
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Before swinging I had never gushed or done anal come to think of it, it's quite an education.
I find some men are very skilled at this and can make me gush in minutes, where the majority either don't try or just don't know what to do. I've not yet met a man who can make me squirt, but it's on the agenda for things to discover. I imagine I am capable of it, but who knows? |
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"I remember meeting a guy at a party in bedford who was able to make any woman squirt. Two girls he demonstrated on had never squirted before in their lives.
Quite a party piece."
Yeah someone did that to me once - I didn't know I had gushed.
He seemed to think it was some major achievement worth bragging "see I can make any woman gush".... left me wondering if I didn't even know it had happened then what's so fucking great about that! |
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"I remember meeting a guy at a party in bedford who was able to make any woman squirt. Two girls he demonstrated on had never squirted before in their lives.
Quite a party piece.
Yeah someone did that to me once - I didn't know I had gushed.
He seemed to think it was some major achievement worth bragging "see I can make any woman gush".... left me wondering if I didn't even know it had happened then what's so fucking great about that!"
yeah it is just technique ..99% of women can gush if you hit the right buttons .. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i do squirt but am a bit shy about it i have to fairly relaxed it can be a bit embarrasing"
noooooooooooo chick. how can u say it embarrasing. its fantastic and a great art lol |
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By *ilandlarryCouple
over a year ago
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probably so very wrong but the disposable bed mats/change mats from pampers come in handy here.
Larry first introduced me to squirting/gushing and we haven't looked back. The first time he done it to me I was in pieces and couldn't walk, he had to help me in the shower to get rid of the shaky feeling lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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oops must be old i must be, i assume gushing like a hosepipe meant someone couldnt control their bladder. I assumed all other juices etc., were orgasmic. I must have it wrong somewhere lolol xxx |
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Read this with interest, as I only encountered my first 'gusher' at a meet late last year....
First time I was on top, and had just started spunking heavily in her when suddenly I started to feel all wet - initially I thought she'd wee'd herself!
The bed ended up absolutely soaked under her arse and between her thighs - she told me she usually only gushed if she actually felt the guy cumming, and she'd certainly felt a week's worth of spunk pumping into her!
Half an hour later, she was on top riding me when she gushed again, without me cumming - and her husband (who was watching/taking photos) said that was highly unusual. The towel placed over the first patch got soaked from above - but though I felt it go all over my groin and balls and tops of my thighs, my skin was totally dry again within only a minute or two. Evaporation from body heat, perhaps?
I apparently did something right and 'hit the spot' to make her gush not once, but twice - but have no idea exactly what or how for the second! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We have met a four women so far who squirt, two of whom ,started doing it withginmh a couple of minutes of getting it on together, pretty much then continuously throught the hours we werre fucking..loved every minute of it.
Its just exciting. We love seeing our guests really enjoying themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i did it on pete,at first i blamed him for peeing in me but i gushed all over him.we started with my new vibro and oil over my pubic mound and finished with a long shag it was gr8 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Had a woman squirt on me in Chams on Fri night. Was awesome and the first time I have ever had the pleasure. Deffo something I would like to happen again! |
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met someone who wanted to gush but the normal gambit of techniques did not work had a few tricks left in the armory and may try again sometime ..but i believe its all psychological in that there was that "resistance" to anything exiting.
you really have to want to do it and let go, not worrying about the result ..
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"We'd been trying for ages to make me squirt , we met a guy who said he could make any woman squirt . ive not been able to stop since then x
Lou x "
Funny I was the same. A guy made me squirt and it was like unblocking a sink lol
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Has anyone got suggestions on techniques used?
I have neve squirted before but love the idea of it and my boyfriend and I are trying anything as he gets turned on by the thought too.
We have our towels at the ready so please help us!! |
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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
North of The Wall - youll need your vest |
"We'd been trying for ages to make me squirt , we met a guy who said he could make any woman squirt . ive not been able to stop since then x
Lou x
Funny I was the same. A guy made me squirt and it was like unblocking a sink lol
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same here - once the dam is breached.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has anyone got suggestions on techniques used?
I have neve squirted before but love the idea of it and my boyfriend and I are trying anything as he gets turned on by the thought too.
We have our towels at the ready so please help us!!"
maybe your trying to hard...just relax and let it happen |
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"I find it hard not to squirt and gush and yes it feels good but I also feel emdarrassed and wish it did not happen, im sick of ceaning up after. I feel that I dare not let myself go and enjoy myself to much at a club and as I dont want to squirt and feel embarrassed.
men love it hun dont worry its normal just lye back and let go ...att home get one of those special sheets ...somepeople use tohose paddiling pool liners as they are only 4.95 easy to clean up they recon ...or just towels ,,,but dont hold it back there is no need ...."
squirt or gush, now that depends on the fingers. patrick bought a rubber sheet as he was worried about the state his mattress would eventually be in. So there we were on this sheet. Patrick has my legs behiind my head and i start to fire out. It hit me in the face and hair. By the time I had finished I looked like I had just stepped out of the shower. Patrick found this an immense turn on
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By *igerMan
over a year ago
liverpool |
"anybody else like this ? female does this and its so horny we love it.we d love another female to do this on her.
any coments ?
Yesterday Sasha experienced squirting (herself) for the first time thanks to some timely and kindly advice from some friends of ours, at first she was a little embarrassed by it, but after many assurances from me and showing her how much it turned me on to see and feel her do it she admitted it was the most intense orgasm she had experienced.
We are both looking forward to many more."
How how?? How do I do this??? Do tell! |
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