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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Pretentious ? why should being a "professional" matter when it comes to meets? or is it the age old English class system sneakily rearing its ugly head where these Audi driving Potton home dwellers need to tell us they're "considerably better than yew" . I dont get it.
Unless they mean professional in the old fashioned sense that is...
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I guess the same reason someone's height matters or their weight, or the other 50 things people "want" before they meet.
Its all down to personal choice and some people have chosen to put their hat on the professional pile. What it means will vary from person to person and that in itself makes it kinda pointless, but someone's preference is someone's preference!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Professional to us means Doctors, Solicitors etc. in the old fashioned sense but hey, now that everyone's got a degree I guess everyone is professional at selling mobile phones, timeshares, financial products etc.
In some ways it's maybe a good thing to see the old class system being used less though. |
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"Pretentious ? why should being a "professional" matter when it comes to meets? or is it the age old English class system sneakily rearing its ugly head where these Audi driving Potton home dwellers need to tell us they're "considerably better than yew" . I dont get it.
Unless they mean professional in the old fashioned sense that is...
keen to hear your opinions.."
has a professional person turned you down by any chance, you seem a bit overly upset about it ? |
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Funny it's always the unprofessional shelf stacker types, disgruntled someone they want to shag only meets professionals that start these type of bitter, bile inducing threads encouraged by other low achievers.
My opinion of course! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Funny it's always the unprofessional shelf stacker types, disgruntled someone they want to shag only meets professionals that start these type of bitter, bile inducing threads encouraged by other low achievers.
My opinion of course!"
Seconded!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I use the term professional as I'm a successful,highly qualified, self-employed IT Consultant, if people find it smug, big headed or egotistic they can swing off my tits Worked damn hard to get this far and I'm proud of it.
In the context of my profile it goes with the fact I have no time or desire for relationships at the moment.
Don't get me wrong, a persons occupation has never factored into a meet/relationship decisions. My ex-fiancee worked in Sainsbury's and my most recent ex is a manager for Glaxo.
To slim it down, it's part of who I am and what I'm about...so it's on here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Funny it's always the unprofessional shelf stacker types, disgruntled someone they want to shag only meets professionals that start these type of bitter, bile inducing threads encouraged by other low achievers.
My opinion of course!" I have met loads of " professionals" when asked what they do, they tell me they work in retail as a store assistant. I'm sure this was the point and not started as a bitter thread written by the low achievers who do menial tasks such as emptying "professionals" bins and making sure your food is stocked in the local supermarket. I've met people on here from every walk of life and generally have treated me as an equal during meets and quite frankly as long as people are at work whatever they do they are contributing to society themselves so let's not make this conversation about insulting eachother. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I use the term professional as I'm a successful,highly qualified, self-employed IT Consultant, if people find it smug, big headed or egotistic they can swing off my tits Worked damn hard to get this far and I'm proud of it.
In the context of my profile it goes with the fact I have no time or desire for relationships at the moment.
Don't get me wrong, a persons occupation has never factored into a meet/relationship decisions. My ex-fiancee worked in Sainsbury's and my most recent ex is a manager for Glaxo.
To slim it down, it's part of who I am and what I'm about...so it's on here."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I find it pretty funny to be honest. You're looking to meet a stranger and have sex, not settle down!
I guess some people just take it because they're qualified and have a profession, they must therefore be intellectual!
I actually had a couple message me saying they wanted to meet but needed to know what job I did first. Jokingly I said waste disposal technician and they blocked me lol! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This subject crops up every now and again, and invariably attracts a lot of reverse snobbery.
Ultimately if someone puts professional down on their profile, its not a bad thing. At least they are trying to convey an image of people who conduct themselves in a pleasant manner.
Though ultimately, its your opinion of them matters ! |
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"Pretentious ? why should being a "professional" matter when it comes to meets? or is it the age old English class system sneakily rearing its ugly head where these Audi driving Potton home dwellers need to tell us they're "considerably better than yew" . I dont get it.
Unless they mean professional in the old fashioned sense that is...
keen to hear your opinions.."
I live in a superficial world the majority of the time.
I work hard and yes I am considered a "Professional"."
What this means is I can be proud of all the hard work and effort I put into being successful in what I apply myself too. Some would say that is just being ambitious and goal orientated, but why shouldn't i be proud of being professional?
It certainly doesn't mean I command respect from everyone, it just means I don't sit bumming round all day bitching about the state of the economy. I go out and achieve things I desire in life.
I appreciate that some people don't have a opportunity to become professionals or live in a big posh house. This doesn't make them unsuccessful. I have a relative who doesn't have a pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out of. However they are the happiest couple i actually know.
The class system will always be here in society. It is part of how sociology works and will always be important. If people have a problem with the class they are in, maybe thats their own issue and not the systems. .......!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We are all people at the end of the day, whatever your background/profession. Being a professional or not doesn't change you as a person. Seeking out people in certain demographics won't guarantee you a good time. It might mean you have more in common but, again, this is not guaranteed.
I think it's best to keep an open mind. But the reality is that here, that's not really going to happen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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IMO it's usually pretentious people who don't want to associate with what they would consider oiks, People who feel that having an education and a highly paid job makes them above average in life, and somehow more worthy. They want a higher lever of conversation, not someone who walks in the door and suggests that they should get on with smashing their back door in...
I have a wealthy sister who would be described as professional, she went to uni, before every town and city in the land had a university. Always had a good job, cultivated her posh voice.
At the end of the day, she grew up on a council estate, went to grammar school, had a Dad who was a lorry driver as did I, and imo she is working class always has been always will be. Not to say she hasn't worked hard and doesn't deserve her rewards.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The label has become meaningless. We live in an inclusive society now, and to exclude someone from the "club" is un-PC. A new label has to be invented, if your going to keep ahead of the Jones's. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Funny it's always the unprofessional shelf stacker types, disgruntled someone they want to shag only meets professionals that start these type of bitter, bile inducing threads encouraged by other low achievers.
My opinion of course! I have met loads of " professionals" when asked what they do, they tell me they work in retail as a store assistant. I'm sure this was the point and not started as a bitter thread written by the low achievers who do menial tasks such as emptying "professionals" bins and making sure your food is stocked in the local supermarket. I've met people on here from every walk of life and generally have treated me as an equal during meets and quite frankly as long as people are at work whatever they do they are contributing to society themselves so let's not make this conversation about insulting eachother."
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By *rallvalCouple
over a year ago
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"Pretentious ? why should being a "professional" matter when it comes to meets? or is it the age old English class system sneakily rearing its ugly head where these Audi driving Potton home dwellers need to tell us they're "considerably better than yew" . I dont get it.
Unless they mean professional in the old fashioned sense that is...
keen to hear your opinions.."
It means very little in real terms. It may out the illiterate knuckle draggers but it also s out the wonderful people that we have met on here who work in shops or repair cars or drive for a living. It also allows through the total idiots with an education.
For the record I was raised on a rough council estate by a labourer and a cleaner and I am also a professional chartered engineer with multiple degrees. I also work with about 20 chartered engineers half of whom are total arseholes.
Seeking a professional is no guarantee of good conversation, good manners or a considerate partner.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"why should being a "professional" matter when it comes to meets?
Indeed. Why does it matter to you?" I don't understand why it matter when it comes to getting to know people if on there profile. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hmmm it's an odd one. How many of you would be put off if your meet said "I can meet u after my shift at KFC?"
Honestly ..." he fine not looking to marrie are they ? |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Hmmm it's an odd one. How many of you would be put off if your meet said "I can meet u after my shift at KFC?"
Honestly ..."
As long as they bring some home with them that's fine! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd not get strung up on it myself.
If someone that spells out 'i'm a professional' on their profile turns your stomach just consider that kind've person not for you and move onto those that might be for you.
I do get the drift though as I've seen it in a way that suggests someone's overly chuffed about themselves being 'a professional'
There's horses for courses, someone for everyone and each to their own |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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How is it pretentious? If that's what they are then that's what they are.
It's not something we state, or request - however we do look for people that are likely to have things in common.
Inverted snobbery is still snobbery. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Professional or non professional is not an issue for me... If the person/people have a personality I warm to and I find them them attractive and compatible to play with..... then I'm happy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Professional or non professional is not an issue for me... If the person/people have a personality I warm to and I find them them attractive and compatible to play with..... then I'm happy. " |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"Pretentious ? why should being a "professional" matter when it comes to meets? or is it the age old English class system sneakily rearing its ugly head where these Audi driving Potton home dwellers need to tell us they're "considerably better than yew" . I dont get it.
Unless they mean professional in the old fashioned sense that is...
keen to hear your opinions.."
I am a professional, I am not pretentious and I don't drive an Audi. Anyone who has a problem with me being a professional - that is their problem and I would most likely not get on with them so wouldn't meet them. |
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"Professional or non professional is not an issue for me... If the person/people have a personality I warm to and I find them them attractive and compatible to play with..... then I'm happy. "
Would you like that with ice cream or custard??? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I like people of all levels, whatever...as long as they arent close minded idiots, thats all.
dont care what they do, what they have
even when I wasnt working I'm pretty much able to converse on many levels...but even then, I'm not going to start making assumptions about people in trackies etc etc...especially when theres tonnes of middle class fucking onsie wearers!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hmmm it's an odd one. How many of you would be put off if your meet said "I can meet u after my shift at KFC?"
Honestly ..."
so the thousands that work in kfc have something wrong with them?...not worthy to meet?
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'HONESTLY!' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wonder how many 'professionals' on here actually belong to a body and who can be struck off from that organisational body. It's those that are registered with these bodies that are professionals. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hmmm it's an odd one. How many of you would be put off if your meet said "I can meet u after my shift at KFC?"
Honestly ..."
It doesnt matter to us what anyone does for work, the word " profesional" doesnt mean anything to us and tend to take no notice of the word, now if we met some profesional couple that was so far up theirselves then we would walk away....as would we if they stunk of KFC |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Personally as an administrator I wouldn't see myself as a professional but I do seem to attract them; at the moment I am shagging a managing director but naked they are all the same |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I wonder how many 'professionals' on here actually belong to a body and who can be struck off from that organisational body. It's those that are registered with these bodies that are professionals."
they wouldnt be struck off for swinging, but having pics on a profile(of a sexual nature),attending swinging venues...might raise issues with codes of conduct that organizations dont want reflected in publicity
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I wonder how many 'professionals' on here actually belong to a body and who can be struck off from that organisational body. It's those that are registered with these bodies that are professionals."
I don't find it necessary to put it on a profile on a swingers site where it has little or no relevance.
Some people like to blow their own trumpets... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I like people of all levels, whatever...as long as they arent close minded idiots, thats all.
dont care what they do, what they have
even when I wasnt working I'm pretty much able to converse on many levels...but even then, I'm not going to start making assumptions about people in trackies etc etc...especially when theres tonnes of middle class fucking onsie wearers!!!!"
Nobody that wears a onesie has class. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I like people of all levels, whatever...as long as they arent close minded idiots, thats all.
dont care what they do, what they have
even when I wasnt working I'm pretty much able to converse on many levels...but even then, I'm not going to start making assumptions about people in trackies etc etc...especially when theres tonnes of middle class fucking onsie wearers!!!!
Nobody that wears a onesie has class."
Especially out in the street |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"I wonder how many 'professionals' on here actually belong to a body and who can be struck off from that organisational body. It's those that are registered with these bodies that are professionals."
Me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Personally as an administrator I wouldn't see myself as a professional but I do seem to attract them; at the moment I am shagging a managing director but naked they are all the same "
bravo! As per previous post,i am a professional but do not specify employment details in my wants |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I wonder how many 'professionals' on here actually belong to a body and who can be struck off from that organisational body. It's those that are registered with these bodies that are professionals."
not true, coming from someone who is registered with Microsoft, cisco, AAT and more ( just because IT often have to deal with bean counters) organisational bodies, pah! You can get letters after your name from practising colon hydrotherapy and foot massage!
yours
lincsrover
MCSA,MCSE,MCITP(Sharepoint,Lync Server),CCNA,MAAT
Also VMWare and Citrix certified. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not seen this one in a while, people tend to choose meets they can talk to as well as play with.
It's a preference like any other, if you meet preferences and they match yours then get in touch, if not don't simples |
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It seems like the only people it really bothers are those who aren't or don't consider themselves to be "professional"
What's the big deal ?
Many descriptions on here are debatable and personal
Why do people feel the need to judge ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hmmm it's an odd one. How many of you would be put off if your meet said "I can meet u after my shift at KFC?"
Honestly ...
so the thousands that work in kfc have something wrong with them?...not worthy to meet?
I will retort with
'HONESTLY!'"
I was asking a question! That's not my view. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It seems like the only people it really bothers are those who aren't or don't consider themselves to be "professional"
What's the big deal ?
Many descriptions on here are debatable and personal
Why do people feel the need to judge ? "
see far up comment about KFC....
the actual point is I dont mind meeting professional people,I worked with lots of professionals, took care of a few too...the point is, there has and probably always be the assumption that other people who arent professional(or even working), might not be suitable for meets, based upon their social standings.
For all i care every professional on this site could be lying scummy fuckbags...but it wont really enter my head to start digging into what they actually do for a living...why?...cos I'm here to have fun and shag |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"When i was a wee boy, I wanted to be a "professional " .....could never decide though whether I wanted to be Bodie or Doyle
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I wanted to be BA or Magnum |
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"Funny it's always the unprofessional shelf stacker types, disgruntled someone they want to shag only meets professionals that start these type of bitter, bile inducing threads encouraged by other low achievers.
My opinion of course! I have met loads of " professionals" when asked what they do, they tell me they work in retail as a store assistant. I'm sure this was the point and not started as a bitter thread written by the low achievers who do menial tasks such as emptying "professionals" bins and making sure your food is stocked in the local supermarket. I've met people on here from every walk of life and generally have treated me as an equal during meets and quite frankly as long as people are at work whatever they do they are contributing to society themselves so let's not make this conversation about insulting eachother."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hmmm it's an odd one. How many of you would be put off if your meet said "I can meet u after my shift at KFC?"
Honestly ...
so the thousands that work in kfc have something wrong with them?...not worthy to meet?
I will retort with
'HONESTLY!'
I was asking a question! That's not my view. "
was it aimed at professionals?
sorry if I and another misread |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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Perhaps it is the association that people have with the term "professional"? For some it might mean that they can expect a modicum of good onversation from the person who refers to themselves as "professional" in their profile, perhaps a degree of affluence, maybe an element of being well-read, cultured with a wide range of interests?
I do not personally subscribe to this notion as I have met a number of very interesting "non professional" people and conversely some very boring, unimaginative "professional" people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Perhaps it is the association that people have with the term "professional"? For some it might mean that they can expect a modicum of good onversation from the person who refers to themselves as "professional" in their profile, perhaps a degree of affluence, maybe an element of being well-read, cultured with a wide range of interests?
I do not personally subscribe to this notion as I have met a number of very interesting "non professional" people and conversely some very boring, unimaginative "professional" people. "
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn |
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By *ewantmmfCouple
over a year ago
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I (Mr) have a PhD (a decent one in a proper academic discipline, not media studies or drama!), I'm self employed and consider myself successful. Mrs has a degree, and also runs her own reasonably successful business. Does this make us "professional"?
If we somehow lost everything tomorrow, our businesses went tits up, we lost our houses, our cars, our investments and our money and were left with nothing, would we then cease to be "professional"?
It's a meaningless label really. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"Perhaps it is the association that people have with the term "professional"? For some it might mean that they can expect a modicum of good onversation from the person who refers to themselves as "professional" in their profile, perhaps a degree of affluence, maybe an element of being well-read, cultured with a wide range of interests?
I do not personally subscribe to this notion as I have met a number of very interesting "non professional" people and conversely some very boring, unimaginative "professional" people.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn " Tried to count the "a" several times and failed - stop confusing me! |
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By *livia_KWoman
over a year ago
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To me the label'professional' just means they have a job. But if all I am going to do is shag them I couldn't give a monkey's if they have a job or not.
But again, why do people get so hung up on what others have on their profile? If there is something about their profile you don't like just move on. |
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I think a few people are missing the point somewhere here
Yes .. This is a swingers site and yes we can , do and have had sex with strangers ! We enjoy that in clubs as long as there is physical attraction
We also enjoy the social side of swinging which means getting to chat and relax and spend time in others company
For us it's not important that people are professional But far better if people are on the same wavelength and we get along
For the record we have met people from all walks of life and we have professional on our profile because we have worked hard and proud of achievements and not because we think we are better than anyone else
A number of people have BBW or gym body on their profile .. It's their choice
If it doesn't suit .. Don't mail
It's so simple xx |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"I (Mr) have a PhD (a decent one in a proper academic discipline, not media studies or drama!), I'm self employed and consider myself successful. Mrs has a degree, and also runs her own reasonably successful business. Does this make us "professional"?
If we somehow lost everything tomorrow, our businesses went tits up, we lost our houses, our cars, our investments and our money and were left with nothing, would we then cease to be "professional"?
It's a meaningless label really. "
I really genuinely like your post and appreciate the reference about the label "professional" being a meaningless one - just a shame that you felt the need to make the distinction between decent/ proper academic disciplines and those that are not - especially at PhD level.
PS I have what you might call a few meaningful academic qualifications |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I could care less what people do for a living! I'm not her to get into a relationship so why does it matter , but it's good to ask questions. (Hence the KFC comment)
Ps i love chicken |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I (Mr) have a PhD (a decent one in a proper academic discipline, not media studies or drama!), I'm self employed and consider myself successful. Mrs has a degree, and also runs her own reasonably successful business. Does this make us "professional"?
If we somehow lost everything tomorrow, our businesses went tits up, we lost our houses, our cars, our investments and our money and were left with nothing, would we then cease to be "professional"?
It's a meaningless label really.
I really genuinely like your post and appreciate the reference about the label "professional" being a meaningless one - just a shame that you felt the need to make the distinction between decent/ proper academic disciplines and those that are not - especially at PhD level.
PS I have what you might call a few meaningful academic qualifications "
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"I think a few people are missing the point somewhere here
Yes .. This is a swingers site and yes we can , do and have had sex with strangers ! We enjoy that in clubs as long as there is physical attraction
We also enjoy the social side of swinging which means getting to chat and relax and spend time in others company
For us it's not important that people are professional But far better if people are on the same wavelength and we get along
For the record we have met people from all walks of life and we have professional on our profile because we have worked hard and proud of achievements and not because we think we are better than anyone else
A number of people have BBW or gym body on their profile .. It's their choice
If it doesn't suit .. Don't mail
It's so simple xx" |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"I could care less what people do for a living! I'm not her to get into a relationship so why does it matter , but it's good to ask questions. (Hence the KFC comment)
Ps i love chicken "
Me, too! Chicken that is |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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I consider myself 'professional', work for the Government in a specialised field, just graduated in that field etc etc ad nauseum.
But my first job was hamper packing in a Leicester sweat shop. It's all a matter of perspective. |
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I'm a consultant and drive an Audi, guess I'm not wanted round these parts!!
If only I'd NOT tried at school, NOT worked my way up the career ladder,NOT wanted to be someone or do something with my life.
Stinks of reverse snobbery and jealousy if you ask me. |
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By *ewantmmfCouple
over a year ago
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"I (Mr) have a PhD (a decent one in a proper academic discipline, not media studies or drama!), I'm self employed and consider myself successful. Mrs has a degree, and also runs her own reasonably successful business. Does this make us "professional"?
If we somehow lost everything tomorrow, our businesses went tits up, we lost our houses, our cars, our investments and our money and were left with nothing, would we then cease to be "professional"?
It's a meaningless label really.
I really genuinely like your post and appreciate the reference about the label "professional" being a meaningless one - just a shame that you felt the need to make the distinction between decent/ proper academic disciplines and those that are not - especially at PhD level.
PS I have what you might call a few meaningful academic qualifications "
I guess I just see no point in PhDs for the arts. How many world-famous actors have a PhD or even an A-level in performing arts? I'd say close to 0%.... How many world-famous scientists have a relevant PhD? I'd say close to 100%.
I realise there are far fewer famous scientists than actors, however, that was the point I was trying to make. |
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"Professional to us means Doctors, Solicitors etc. in the old fashioned sense but hey, now that everyone's got a degree I guess everyone is professional at selling mobile phones, timeshares, financial products etc.
In some ways it's maybe a good thing to see the old class system being used less though."
Quoted this before and not the case:
A professional is a person who is engaged in a certain activity or occupation for gain or compensation as a means of livelihood, such as a permanent career, rather than as a pastime.[1][2] The traditional professions were doctors, engineers, lawyers, architects and commissioned military officers.[citation needed] Today, the term is applied to nurses, accountants, educators, scientists, technology experts, social workers, artists, librarians (information professionals) and many more. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"the only good thing about 'professional' swingers is they stop the argument we're all jeremy kyle reject wannabes
And bring a bit of crass into your lives. "
I see what you did there.
It's funny cos it's true! |
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By *adyA01Woman
over a year ago
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"Funny it's always the unprofessional shelf stacker types, disgruntled someone they want to shag only meets professionals that start these type of bitter, bile inducing threads encouraged by other low achievers.
My opinion of course!
Seconded!! "
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"Professional to us means Doctors, Solicitors etc. in the old fashioned sense but hey, now that everyone's got a degree I guess everyone is professional at selling mobile phones, timeshares, financial products etc.
In some ways it's maybe a good thing to see the old class system being used less though.
Quoted this before and not the case:
A professional is a person who is engaged in a certain activity or occupation for gain or compensation as a means of livelihood, such as a permanent career, rather than as a pastime.[1][2] The traditional professions were doctors, engineers, lawyers, architects and commissioned military officers.[citation needed] Today, the term is applied to nurses, accountants, educators, scientists, technology experts, social workers, artists, librarians (information professionals) and many more."
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"Just had this funny thought... if we all had to declare our income on the profile. Would there be a similar discussion? "
I don't think income or wage comes into it, well not where im concerned.
Some may not like it but professional to me means a certain standard of person.
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"I (Mr) have a PhD (a decent one in a proper academic discipline, not media studies or drama!), I'm self employed and consider myself successful. Mrs has a degree, and also runs her own reasonably successful business. Does this make us "professional"?
If we somehow lost everything tomorrow, our businesses went tits up, we lost our houses, our cars, our investments and our money and were left with nothing, would we then cease to be "professional"?
It's a meaningless label really.
I really genuinely like your post and appreciate the reference about the label "professional" being a meaningless one - just a shame that you felt the need to make the distinction between decent/ proper academic disciplines and those that are not - especially at PhD level.
PS I have what you might call a few meaningful academic qualifications
I guess I just see no point in PhDs for the arts. How many world-famous actors have a PhD or even an A-level in performing arts? I'd say close to 0%.... How many world-famous scientists have a relevant PhD? I'd say close to 100%.
I realise there are far fewer famous scientists than actors, however, that was the point I was trying to make. " I think I can see where you are coming from - the PhD is not as relevant in your opinion when the subject matter might be about Art or Drama - I guess that is probably true for a successful actor, painter etc.. ie for anybody who focusses in their work mainly on the practical part, the execution of their profession. It would be far more relevant , of course, if said actor/ painter were to change direction and become researchers in their field - same subject but different focus of interest?
Either way - possibly a topic for a different thread maybe? |
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"Professional to us means Doctors, Solicitors etc. in the old fashioned sense but hey, now that everyone's got a degree I guess everyone is professional at selling mobile phones, timeshares, financial products etc.
In some ways it's maybe a good thing to see the old class system being used less though.
Quoted this before and not the case:
A professional is a person who is engaged in a certain activity or occupation for gain or compensation as a means of livelihood, such as a permanent career, rather than as a pastime.[1][2] The traditional professions were doctors, engineers, lawyers, architects and commissioned military officers.[citation needed] Today, the term is applied to nurses, accountants, educators, scientists, technology experts, social workers, artists, librarians (information professionals) and many more."
And your point being?
We should stick to the last and not develop? |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Just had this funny thought... if we all had to declare our income on the profile. Would there be a similar discussion?
I don't think income or wage comes into it, well not where im concerned.
Some may not like it but professional to me means a certain standard of person.
"
That might be where we sail dangerously close to classism though. As certain men might know on here, I may be 'professional' in my work, but that doesn't mean I consider myself above meeting others who are not. Formally educated does not mean people are 'higher' standard that someone like Alan Sugar, who basically worked his way up to where he is now. |
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"Just had this funny thought... if we all had to declare our income on the profile. Would there be a similar discussion?
I don't think income or wage comes into it, well not where im concerned.
Some may not like it but professional to me means a certain standard of person.
That might be where we sail dangerously close to classism though. As certain men might know on here, I may be 'professional' in my work, but that doesn't mean I consider myself above meeting others who are not. Formally educated does not mean people are 'higher' standard that someone like Alan Sugar, who basically worked his way up to where he is now." Could not agree more |
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"Just had this funny thought... if we all had to declare our income on the profile. Would there be a similar discussion?
I don't think income or wage comes into it, well not where im concerned.
Some may not like it but professional to me means a certain standard of person.
That might be where we sail dangerously close to classism though. As certain men might know on here, I may be 'professional' in my work, but that doesn't mean I consider myself above meeting others who are not. Formally educated does not mean people are 'higher' standard that someone like Alan Sugar, who basically worked his way up to where he is now."
picture him blowjobbing his way to the top |
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"I wonder how many 'professionals' on here actually belong to a body and who can be struck off from that organisational body. It's those that are registered with these bodies that are professionals.
I don't find it necessary to put it on a profile on a swingers site where it has little or no relevance.
Some people like to blow their own
trumpets..."
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"Just had this funny thought... if we all had to declare our income on the profile. Would there be a similar discussion?
I don't think income or wage comes into it, well not where im concerned.
Some may not like it but professional to me means a certain standard of person.
That might be where we sail dangerously close to classism though. As certain men might know on here, I may be 'professional' in my work, but that doesn't mean I consider myself above meeting others who are not. Formally educated does not mean people are 'higher' standard that someone like Alan Sugar, who basically worked his way up to where he is now."
He's still a twat. |
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"Professional to us means Doctors, Solicitors etc. in the old fashioned sense but hey, now that everyone's got a degree I guess everyone is professional at selling mobile phones, timeshares, financial products etc.
In some ways it's maybe a good thing to see the old class system being used less though.
Quoted this before and not the case:
A professional is a person who is engaged in a certain activity or occupation for gain or compensation as a means of livelihood, such as a permanent career, rather than as a pastime.[1][2] The traditional professions were doctors, engineers, lawyers, architects and commissioned military officers.[citation needed] Today, the term is applied to nurses, accountants, educators, scientists, technology experts, social workers, artists, librarians (information professionals) and many more.
and super heroes"
na na na na na na
na na na na na na
Batman!! |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Just had this funny thought... if we all had to declare our income on the profile. Would there be a similar discussion?
I don't think income or wage comes into it, well not where im concerned.
Some may not like it but professional to me means a certain standard of person.
That might be where we sail dangerously close to classism though. As certain men might know on here, I may be 'professional' in my work, but that doesn't mean I consider myself above meeting others who are not. Formally educated does not mean people are 'higher' standard that someone like Alan Sugar, who basically worked his way up to where he is now.
He's still a twat."
So's George Osborne, but apparently he's considered to a higher standard because of his education.
Not that I'd meet either you understand. Even I have standards. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"picture him blowjobbing his way to the top
Paddy, this is just a wild guess, but are you horny at the mo? "
when I thought of pummeling his hamster cheeks with my big cock...I suddenly wasnt |
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"I (Mr) have a PhD (a decent one in a proper academic discipline, not media studies or drama!), I'm self employed and consider myself successful. Mrs has a degree, and also runs her own reasonably successful business. Does this make us "professional"?
If we somehow lost everything tomorrow, our businesses went tits up, we lost our houses, our cars, our investments and our money and were left with nothing, would we then cease to be "professional"?
It's a meaningless label really.
I really genuinely like your post and appreciate the reference about the label "professional" being a meaningless one - just a shame that you felt the need to make the distinction between decent/ proper academic disciplines and those that are not - especially at PhD level.
PS I have what you might call a few meaningful academic qualifications
I guess I just see no point in PhDs for the arts. How many world-famous actors have a PhD or even an A-level in performing arts? I'd say close to 0%.... How many world-famous scientists have a relevant PhD? I'd say close to 100%.
I realise there are far fewer famous scientists than actors, however, that was the point I was trying to make. "
Some people study the arts because they love to learn! |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"picture him blowjobbing his way to the top
Paddy, this is just a wild guess, but are you horny at the mo?
when I thought of pummeling his hamster cheeks with my big cock...I suddenly wasnt "
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"Just had this funny thought... if we all had to declare our income on the profile. Would there be a similar discussion?
I don't think income or wage comes into it, well not where im concerned.
Some may not like it but professional to me means a certain standard of person.
That might be where we sail dangerously close to classism though. As certain men might know on here, I may be 'professional' in my work, but that doesn't mean I consider myself above meeting others who are not. Formally educated does not mean people are 'higher' standard that someone like Alan Sugar, who basically worked his way up to where he is now.
He's still a twat.
So's George Osborne, but apparently he's considered to a higher standard because of his education.
Not that I'd meet either you understand. Even I have standards. "
Osbourne is just a different class of twat - one of the biggest.
(In my professional opinion ) |
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I'd be interested to know, purely for thread research purposes what job or role the " professional " haters actually have if any? Also those classing themselves as professional what they actually do.
at the end of a day it's a term used on a regular basis on here along with VWE, attractive etc etc which should be taken with a pinch of salt. If I want to meet what i deem to be a professional lady I will. |
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"Just had this funny thought... if we all had to declare our income on the profile. Would there be a similar discussion? "
happily, 32,486 last tax year, first one self employed and that was from June, i work 4 days a week. Last job i worked for someone i was 25k for 40 hrs a week. Im proud given my background (raised myself from 11, mother victim of domestic violence which i stopped. Pushed out of school through snobbery, chrohns, depression) my day off I teach employment skills and CV writing to those who have the right attitude, i look forward to these days most. So yeah, job title in great, income in going really well for my age, but it means shit. IM proud of what i do cos its a product of who i am, if you choose to make presumptions then so be it.
I ROCK
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"I'd be interested to know, purely for thread research purposes what job or role the " professional " haters actually have if any? Also those classing themselves as professional what they actually do.
at the end of a day it's a term used on a regular basis on here along with VWE, attractive etc etc which should be taken with a pinch of salt. If I want to meet what i deem to be a professional lady I will. "
Well I can sign your passport - does that make my opinion valid? |
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"I'd be interested to know, purely for thread research purposes what job or role the " professional " haters actually have if any? Also those classing themselves as professional what they actually do.
at the end of a day it's a term used on a regular basis on here along with VWE, attractive etc etc which should be taken with a pinch of salt. If I want to meet what i deem to be a professional lady I will.
Well I can sign your passport - does that make my opinion valid?"
You sign mine, I will sign yours
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Who is it that gets to decide what constitutes a profession, among the plethora of jobs out there? OED, Debretts?
I think some people might be guilty of trying to pull the ladder up behind them. |
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We're not professional but Education wise and financially we'll be considered and are upperclass, no doubt! Funny thing is we've had more fun with the "non professionals" than the so called "professionals".
Most, if not all the "professionals we've met maybe professional job wise, but the choice of word is usually meant to connote Job professionalism but MOSTLY class superiority... What we've found is that the professionals are usually mortgaged up to the hilt, go on packaged holidays, use flowery language and don't live in either zone1, 2 or 3. Whereas the non professionals are often more liquid cashwise, definitely more laid back and confident in themselves, better sense of humour and to be honest FCUK much better... So much for being professional aye?!?! |
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I am proud to be a "professional", and if one needs to ask what that means, it is unlikely I am interested in meeting that person, and I don't care what others may think.
Can't stand inverted snobbery. |
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"I wonder how many 'professionals' on here actually belong to a body and who can be struck off from that organisational body. It's those that are registered with these bodies that are professionals.
I don't find it necessary to put it on a profile on a swingers site where it has little or no relevance.
Some people like to blow their own trumpets..."
I'd blow my own trumpet of not for these damned ribs |
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"I am proud to be a "professional", and if one needs to ask what that means, it is unlikely I am interested in meeting that person, and I don't care what others may think.
Can't stand inverted snobbery. "
I love a touch of irony. |
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Glad to have stoked such a fierce debate. Seems most follow my belief that the need to pronounce oneself as a professional is unnecessary and doesn't sway ones attraction from the main reason we are here.
Good manners are to be welcomed no matter what you do (or don't do) for a living. BTW I don't work at KFC and I drive a Jag not an Audi |
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