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"Have had loads of request off guys offering to suck me off, not bi, but seems a lot of guys like to suck a straight guy,???? Anyone know anythin i dont...." I know several reasons why the fall of Rome occurred. | |||
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"Some folk are deluded as to their own sexual proclivities. It'd be like proclaiming yourself teetotal but enjoying a few cheeky scotches and 20 B+H at weekends " bang on correct | |||
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"Why do guys that say they are str8 ask u if they can suck ur cock??" I believe they are bi/gay, but put "straight" on their profile so they do't get eliminated by certain profile searches, ie "woman seeking man who is straight". They believe they increase their matches.. but here's my question. If they want more matches, and are genuinely bi/gay,.. do they not effectively reduce their chances by eliminating themselves from "man/woman seeking bi/gay men" ??? | |||
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"Why do guys that say they are str8 ask u if they can suck ur cock?? I believe they are bi/gay, but put "straight" on their profile so they do't get eliminated by certain profile searches, ie "woman seeking man who is straight". They believe they increase their matches.. but here's my question. If they want more matches, and are genuinely bi/gay,.. do they not effectively reduce their chances by eliminating themselves from "man/woman seeking bi/gay men" ???" Logical and a very good point my friend | |||
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"Sorry, correct me if I'm wrong, but if a guy lets another guy suck his cock then he's at the very least 'bi' - he's certainly not straight." Very true indeed i agree | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition " Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. | |||
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"Have had loads of request off guys offering to suck me off, not bi, but seems a lot of guys like to suck a straight guy,???? Anyone know anythin i dont...." Prob just looks to them u have nice lookin cock. Up To u if take them up on it. Doesn't make u bi but bi curious. As others said guys are good st knowing what guys like | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. " That's utter nonsense as a straight man wouldn't enjoy a blindfold blowjob that may be from either gender. He'd want to know for certain that it was a desired lady giving it. I'm a vegi if you cook me a meal and sneak in some little bits of meat and ask me if I enjoyed it and I say yes thank you does that make me a non vegi meat eater ? Of course not it just means that you've deceived me | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. " never read so much shit in my life ha | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. " It's the old Bill Clinton defence, ' did not have sex with that women. I have plenty of 'straight' guys mailing me who want to suck my cock, it does say on my profile I'm into good TVs, TSs and Trans as well as many other things but never straight guys wanting to suck my cock, not even bi guys. During a good steamy session I may sometimes give the odd bi guy the odd hand feely, lick or suck but just part of the hedonist fun. It's not the main point for me, just part of the fun | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. " Sorry, but YOU'RE wrong. If a guy is in a room with another guy present and is asked to put a blindfold on then if he has a couple of brain cells he should know what is going to happen next. It's not rocket science, he's up for it, therefore meaning he's GAY or BI. People saying that men enjoy blowjobs 'regardless' is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard - that's generalising in it's purest form. | |||
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"Have had loads of request off guys offering to suck me off, not bi, but seems a lot of guys like to suck a straight guy,???? Anyone know anythin i dont...." Any straight male displaying a cock pic as his Avatar is asking for it! | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. Sorry, but YOU'RE wrong. If a guy is in a room with another guy present and is asked to put a blindfold on then if he has a couple of brain cells he should know what is going to happen next. It's not rocket science, he's up for it, therefore meaning he's GAY or BI. People saying that men enjoy blowjobs 'regardless' is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard - that's generalising in it's purest form." | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. That's utter nonsense as a straight man wouldn't enjoy a blindfold blowjob that may be from either gender. He'd want to know for certain that it was a desired lady giving it. I'm a vegi if you cook me a meal and sneak in some little bits of meat and ask me if I enjoyed it and I say yes thank you does that make me a non vegi meat eater ? Of course not it just means that you've deceived me " Totally agree | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. Sorry, but YOU'RE wrong. If a guy is in a room with another guy present and is asked to put a blindfold on then if he has a couple of brain cells he should know what is going to happen next. It's not rocket science, he's up for it, therefore meaning he's GAY or BI. People saying that men enjoy blowjobs 'regardless' is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard - that's generalising in it's purest form." its a bit like saying...if you'd fuck a woman up the arse....you'd fuck a bloke ha | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. Sorry, but YOU'RE wrong. If a guy is in a room with another guy present and is asked to put a blindfold on then if he has a couple of brain cells he should know what is going to happen next. It's not rocket science, he's up for it, therefore meaning he's GAY or BI. People saying that men enjoy blowjobs 'regardless' is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard - that's generalising in it's purest form." One of the reasons I like a BJ off a TV etc is feeling and seeing the long hair while having my cock sucked. A standard man doesn't do it for me plus TVs etc don't normally want me to do more than have the odd play with their cock if at all. | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. Sorry, but YOU'RE wrong. If a guy is in a room with another guy present and is asked to put a blindfold on then if he has a couple of brain cells he should know what is going to happen next. It's not rocket science, he's up for it, therefore meaning he's GAY or BI. People saying that men enjoy blowjobs 'regardless' is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard - that's generalising in it's purest form. its a bit like saying...if you'd fuck a woman up the arse....you'd fuck a bloke ha" Good point tis true | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. Sorry, but YOU'RE wrong. If a guy is in a room with another guy present and is asked to put a blindfold on then if he has a couple of brain cells he should know what is going to happen next. It's not rocket science, he's up for it, therefore meaning he's GAY or BI. People saying that men enjoy blowjobs 'regardless' is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard - that's generalising in it's purest form. its a bit like saying...if you'd fuck a woman up the arse....you'd fuck a bloke ha Good point tis true " Yep, that's another one. I'm sure looking down on a hairy back and muscular body is just the same as if you were anally fucking a woman. Silly me. | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. Sorry, but YOU'RE wrong. If a guy is in a room with another guy present and is asked to put a blindfold on then if he has a couple of brain cells he should know what is going to happen next. It's not rocket science, he's up for it, therefore meaning he's GAY or BI. People saying that men enjoy blowjobs 'regardless' is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard - that's generalising in it's purest form. its a bit like saying...if you'd fuck a woman up the arse....you'd fuck a bloke ha Good point tis true Yep, that's another one. I'm sure looking down on a hairy back and muscular body is just the same as if you were anally fucking a woman. Silly me." That's why I only do things with women, couples, good TVs, TSs and TGs. | |||
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"I don't agree that a man must be bi/gay if he enjoys sucking a cock or having his sucked by a man, if they don't actually find men attractive, some people can just get caught up in the sexual moment, where everything feels sexy and maybe has a kink to it. I'm bi because I fancy women, and have had relationships with them, I feel there is a difference. Not speaking from experience with Mr Blue mind just my take on it x" There are lots of guys like mr notts who do not fancy men but trust me his is definately bi and proud of it | |||
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"I don't agree that a man must be bi/gay if he enjoys sucking a cock or having his sucked by a man" lmfao | |||
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" Ive experimented in the past(receiving oral), and it was only to please the female half..I dont find it sexually exciting at all and even if I was blindfolded I probably wouldnt enjoy it from either sex, but my thoughts of (even when I read about men performing oral) is YuK!...even worse me ever contemplating giving a man oral makes me think YUK! so at this time, I'm happy for whoever to do whatever they like...maybe just not to me thanks(a common response in mails from bi-males/bi-male seeking cpls/or straight men)" Hey paddy, if I told you I sucked a guys cock the other day and the women watching me do it really got off on it, would it make you vomit ya porridge up? | |||
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"Like I said just my thoughts on it, haven't actually spoken to anyone who does this or feels this way, just assumed that being bi means you are attracted to both sexes? X" It's a murky grey topic me thinks. Many shades of bi!! I'm sure some bi boys will be along shortly to put us all right .... | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. " That's my interpretation too. If you actively want it from a man your bi, but if you receive it, it doesn't necessarily make you that way. Monks make alcohol, but dont always drink it... | |||
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"Like I said just my thoughts on it, haven't actually spoken to anyone who does this or feels this way, just assumed that being bi means you are attracted to both sexes? X It's a murky grey topic me thinks. Many shades of bi!! I'm sure some bi boys will be along shortly to put us all right ...." Ye that would be great, lets hope they do x | |||
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"I don't agree that a man must be bi/gay if he enjoys sucking a cock or having his sucked by a man, if they don't actually find men attractive, some people can just get caught up in the sexual moment, where everything feels sexy and maybe has a kink to it. I'm bi because I fancy women, and have had relationships with them, I feel there is a difference. Not speaking from experience with Mr Blue mind just my take on it x There are lots of guys like mr notts who do not fancy men but trust me his is definately bi and proud of it " | |||
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"But are a lot of people bi but just dont want to Admit it? I think this is the case. ..my profile says I an bi but I have never had any sort of romance with woman.. I an not opposed to play with a woman so I say I am bi... but am I? " If you are attracted and/or enjoy or want intimate or sexually activity with people of the same sex then you are bi | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. " Try again. You are sooooo way off base, you are in a different solar system. | |||
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"I'm bisexual. I know some people hate the idea and others love it. I'm not overly proud of being bi, nor do I hide it. I'm more attracted to women on the 'bi spectrum' and don't fancy men, just happy to suck their cock if they're in a m/f etc situation. I mainly play straight. It's no big deal really. Horses for courses and c'est la vie. Live and let live. " | |||
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"The whole straight, bi waters must be muddied in group and threesome situations. In DP there must surely be a bit of ball jangling going on, never mind a bit of cross swords action. I think there's a bit of bi in most guys. Cocks look like they should be popped in your mouth." Oh go on then | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. Sorry, but YOU'RE wrong. If a guy is in a room with another guy present and is asked to put a blindfold on then if he has a couple of brain cells he should know what is going to happen next. It's not rocket science, he's up for it, therefore meaning he's GAY or BI. People saying that men enjoy blowjobs 'regardless' is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard - that's generalising in it's purest form. " As a bisexual transvestite I feel that of you all I'm more qualified to comment on this. Ever heard of glory holes at clubs? How many guys do a gender check before sticking their dicks through a wall? I'm not suggesting anyone should be blindfolded and MADE to receive a BJ from a guy. That's ridiculous and I never said that, you're just inferring your own bullshit. Read what I put. I just said that in a blind Pepsi taste test you couldn't tell the fucking difference. And I'm right. As someone said earlier, this is rather a grey area. Its just that some "straight" men, in a dry spell, would rather stick their dicks in a warm mouth of any gender than spank off yet again. Argue with that statement if you like. | |||
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"I (m) have no attraction to guys whatsoever, wouldnt dream of kissing a guy or playing solo with a guy etc. However during mmf play i am happy to give or receive oral from a guy. I have bi curious on my profile for this reason. My thoughts are if you enjoy playing with cock or having yours played with by a guy then you ARE to some degree bi. I think fellas are terrified of this label for a whole range of reasons. You only need to admit it to yourself !! Its just a word ffs !! Just my tuppence worth " Here here, so many guys have verifications from TV's but still state they are straight, surely this is a place to be honest, if you can't be honest with like minded people then your never going to be. If a guy sucks cock or has his cock sucked by another guy then he is bi!! | |||
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"I (m) have no attraction to guys whatsoever, wouldnt dream of kissing a guy or playing solo with a guy etc. However during mmf play i am happy to give or receive oral from a guy. I have bi curious on my profile for this reason. My thoughts are if you enjoy playing with cock or having yours played with by a guy then you ARE to some degree bi. I think fellas are terrified of this label for a whole range of reasons. You only need to admit it to yourself !! Its just a word ffs !! Just my tuppence worth Here here, so many guys have verifications from TV's but still state they are straight, surely this is a place to be honest, if you can't be honest with like minded people then your never going to be. If a guy sucks cock or has his cock sucked by another guy then he is bi!! " | |||
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"But are a lot of people bi but just dont want to Admit it? I think this is the case. ..my profile says I an bi but I have never had any sort of romance with woman.. I an not opposed to play with a woman so I say I am bi... but am I? If you are attracted and/or enjoy or want intimate or sexually activity with people of the same sex then you are bi" | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Sorry but you're wrong. Put a blindfold on a guy and have a woman or a man give him a blowjob. He'd be hard pushed to tell the difference. Men enjoy blowjobs regardless of the gender of mouth doing it. What you mean is that if a man actively seeks men to give him blowjobs rather than women, then he's bi. Sorry, but YOU'RE wrong. If a guy is in a room with another guy present and is asked to put a blindfold on then if he has a couple of brain cells he should know what is going to happen next. It's not rocket science, he's up for it, therefore meaning he's GAY or BI. People saying that men enjoy blowjobs 'regardless' is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard - that's generalising in it's purest form. As a bisexual transvestite I feel that of you all I'm more qualified to comment on this. Ever heard of glory holes at clubs? How many guys do a gender check before sticking their dicks through a wall? I'm not suggesting anyone should be blindfolded and MADE to receive a BJ from a guy. That's ridiculous and I never said that, you're just inferring your own bullshit. Read what I put. I just said that in a blind Pepsi taste test you couldn't tell the fucking difference. And I'm right. As someone said earlier, this is rather a grey area. Its just that some "straight" men, in a dry spell, would rather stick their dicks in a warm mouth of any gender than spank off yet again. Argue with that statement if you like." You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition " I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. " Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it | |||
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"Least 5 emails a week, that seems loads to me, " If deleting the messages and/or blocking the sender is too hard work - why not prevent the problem by simply applying the appropriate message filter! Instant result = 0 mails offering you BJ's from 'straight guys' - sure to declutter your inbox!! | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it" Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it. | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it." well well never looked at it like that before , lol you go to gum thay ask if your bi and thay do men ........... you say not sure if man or a woman , lolol | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it." And taking a man up the bum is straight also if you enjoy it with a lady is it ? You are deluded. Please read a dictionary | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it. And taking a man up the bum is straight also if you enjoy it with a lady is it ? You are deluded. Please read a dictionary " If I'm deluded, you're an idiot. The act itself isn't gay or bi. If you get sexual pleasure because it's a man giving you head then yeah you're bi/gay. but if you just like having your dick sucked or having something to fuck that doesn't mean you're gay/bi. | |||
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" If I'm deluded, you're an idiot. The act itself isn't gay or bi. If you get sexual pleasure because it's a man giving you head then yeah you're bi/gay. but if you just like having your dick sucked or having something to fuck that doesn't mean you're gay/bi. " LOOOL...just LOL! Wow. | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it." again,someone can't grasp the fact that a straight guy isn't straight if he likes his cock sucked by another guy,why is this so difficult to understand? | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it. And taking a man up the bum is straight also if you enjoy it with a lady is it ? You are deluded. Please read a dictionary If I'm deluded, you're an idiot. The act itself isn't gay or bi. If you get sexual pleasure because it's a man giving you head then yeah you're bi/gay. but if you just like having your dick sucked or having something to fuck that doesn't mean you're gay/bi. " There's people laughing in the chat rooms and sending me messages regarding this nonsense from you. Please use a dictionary and come back with a dictionary quote that pertains to you as a man sucking a guys cock as straight sexual activity as I'll be interested to see it as indeed will all of my supporters re English language usage . You may live in a 2 up and 2 down and call it a mansion out of self delusion but it isn't and never will be one. A dictionary has existed since time immemorial in each language so that there is a definition as to words and terminology. If I come in your shop to buy a laptop and you produce on request a pound of butter because that's what you call butter it doesn't make your butter a laptop it means you can't grasp societies definition of words and choose to make up your own | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it. And taking a man up the bum is straight also if you enjoy it with a lady is it ? You are deluded. Please read a dictionary If I'm deluded, you're an idiot. The act itself isn't gay or bi. If you get sexual pleasure because it's a man giving you head then yeah you're bi/gay. but if you just like having your dick sucked or having something to fuck that doesn't mean you're gay/bi. " No, he's not an idiot, and yes, you ARE deluded (and ALSO an idiot). A man sucking another mans cock/fucking up the arse means that neither of them are straight, they're both gay, bi or a mixture of the two. Period. Is that too difficult for you to understand? It would appear so. | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it. And taking a man up the bum is straight also if you enjoy it with a lady is it ? You are deluded. Please read a dictionary If I'm deluded, you're an idiot. The act itself isn't gay or bi. If you get sexual pleasure because it's a man giving you head then yeah you're bi/gay. but if you just like having your dick sucked or having something to fuck that doesn't mean you're gay/bi. No, he's not an idiot, and yes, you ARE deluded (and ALSO an idiot). A man sucking another mans cock/fucking up the arse means that neither of them are straight, they're both gay, bi or a mixture of the two. Period. Is that too difficult for you to understand? It would appear so." Top man and well said | |||
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"The first four or five messages I had on here were from men. I thought I must have ticked some wrong boxes...! " my friend gets it too and nothing about bi on his profile .. Maybe they feel they can turn you ,And that turns them on a bi virgin , lol xx | |||
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"The first four or five messages I had on here were from men. I thought I must have ticked some wrong boxes...! my friend gets it too and nothing about bi on his profile .. Maybe they feel they can turn you ,And that turns them on a bi virgin , lol xx " No chance!... | |||
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"Some folk are deluded as to their own sexual proclivities. It'd be like proclaiming yourself teetotal but enjoying a few cheeky scotches and 20 B+H at weekends bang on correct " And I second that! | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it. again,someone can't grasp the fact that a straight guy isn't straight if he likes his cock sucked by another guy,why is this so difficult to understand?" Exactly. This thread has had comments from a fair few guys who are clearly in the closet with no intention of climbing out | |||
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"What many men fail to understand is that women are not as visually stimulated by cock pics as men are by boob/pussy/ass pics...so to all those men with cock pics on your profiles...unless us gals are looking for a bbc/9 incher/cock as wide as a babby's arm, then its your bum, torso or face we want to see, not your cock otherwise the bi and gay guys will want you" I totally agree with you on this. I love a nice tight bum on a guy or a lovely torso. Face pics are always good. If not on public gallery then at least have it in private so it can be sent via message. After all if us women like what we see your more inclined to get out attention. Xx | |||
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"James, your rampant heterosexuality clearly gives you a lot of pleasure but the world isn't so cut and dried as just straight or gay. I've given you an example from my own experience (not from a dictionary) but that's obviously not enough. Yes lots of guys are deluding themselves, or just plain lying about their sexuality on here. Usually to increase their chances of meeting and not through any confusion in their sexuality. But to say any same sex contact makes both parties gay/bi is ludicrous and medieval. What you are doing is confusing the act of sex, and the psychology of sexuality. And you won't find any info on the two in your Oxford English. Taking your argument to it's absurd conclusion that any same sex contact is homosexual means that anyone having a wank is a steaming gayer! Your own sexual arousal is clearly limited by visual stimulation, as you implied when you said you'd never be blindfolded or use a glory hole in case you were tricked into a man touching you. Which is not the case with everyone. With some, myself included, this sensory deprivation can heighten the experience, and it doesn't make it any less pleasurable not knowing who is doing it to me. I'd agree with the assertation that a man or woman seeking to, and then performing a sex act on someone of the same sex and gaining pleasure thereof is at the very least Bisexual. But a man or woman lying back and enjoying 'someone' performing oral sex on them....no, thats just enjoying someone doing you a favour. " a straight guy just wouldn't "lie back" and enjoy 'someone' performing oral sex on them....if he did...he wouldn't be straight,call it medieval but its true | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it. again,someone can't grasp the fact that a straight guy isn't straight if he likes his cock sucked by another guy,why is this so difficult to understand? Exactly. This thread has had comments from a fair few guys who are clearly in the closet with no intention of climbing out" I have read through this thread with interest and you saying no intention of climbing out and be proud etc I think is not fair. People are entitled to their privacy and discretion regardless and shouldn't be forced to proclaim themselves as something they feel they are not. You keep banging on about the dictionary, look up bisexual and you will see the term was coined in the 19th century and widely accepted that it means bisexuals are attracted to more than one gender. Men who are not attracted to other men and who partake in "kinky" fun are not in the true sense bisexual imo. And any man who says blindfolded they would tell the difference of a man or woman sucking their cock is talking out their arse! | |||
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"Have had loads of request off guys offering to suck me off, not bi, but seems a lot of guys like to suck a straight guy,???? Anyone know anythin i dont...." yeah its call try before your bi LOL | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it. again,someone can't grasp the fact that a straight guy isn't straight if he likes his cock sucked by another guy,why is this so difficult to understand? Exactly. This thread has had comments from a fair few guys who are clearly in the closet with no intention of climbing out I have read through this thread with interest and you saying no intention of climbing out and be proud etc I think is not fair. People are entitled to their privacy and discretion regardless and shouldn't be forced to proclaim themselves as something they feel they are not. You keep banging on about the dictionary, look up bisexual and you will see the term was coined in the 19th century and widely accepted that it means bisexuals are attracted to more than one gender. Men who are not attracted to other men and who partake in "kinky" fun are not in the true sense bisexual imo. And any man who says blindfolded they would tell the difference of a man or woman sucking their cock is talking out their arse! " lol I would know as most men have face hair and make me sore . lol even when they think thy have a close shave its them bits left around there lip , lol | |||
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"I'm still waiting for the first of these thread guys to provide a dictionary reference that quotes " a man giving another man a blowjob or shagging him up the ass as heterosexual activity ? " Nice! " If your tied up and kinky sex and cant see its not bi sex ... Thay just don't know its like no mans land ... like a secret , lol I like bi man ... gay men ... who ever and I have loved this post ... as I had a friend and we would chat about him having sex with TVs and said he was never bi as they looked so fem ,People on this site go on about people and the truth like Age, Names, Size, all sorts and this is just one more thing .. when they see a person is strate and feed backs from TV s and stuff .. And yes its up to them I know . Some men over time I am sure get bored of same things and look for new things .. just like us woman . | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it. again,someone can't grasp the fact that a straight guy isn't straight if he likes his cock sucked by another guy,why is this so difficult to understand? Exactly. This thread has had comments from a fair few guys who are clearly in the closet with no intention of climbing out I have read through this thread with interest and you saying no intention of climbing out and be proud etc I think is not fair. People are entitled to their privacy and discretion regardless and shouldn't be forced to proclaim themselves as something they feel they are not. You keep banging on about the dictionary, look up bisexual and you will see the term was coined in the 19th century and widely accepted that it means bisexuals are attracted to more than one gender. Men who are not attracted to other men and who partake in "kinky" fun are not in the true sense bisexual imo. And any man who says blindfolded they would tell the difference of a man or woman sucking their cock is talking out their arse! lol I would know as most men have face hair and make me sore . lol even when they think thy have a close shave its them bits left around there lip , lol " Ooh I don't know Jo, M is baby smooth after a shave, no roughness at all | |||
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" You're bi but you can't seem to grasp that the concept of a straight guy exists. I wouldn't dream of sticking my male member in a so called " glory hole " as I know that a bloke may be the one sucking it and as a straight guy I wouldn't find that sexually desirable. If you enjoy such activity you are either bi or gay and any other such claims are deluded and defy correct terminology definition I'm perfectly aware that there are 100% straight people and 100% gay people. You don't seem to be able to grasp that it is possible to be straight and enjoy a blowjob from a guy. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean others don't. You're forcing your definition of bisexuality on others. I get loads of straight guys wanting to meet me, usually for a quick bj on the way home to the missus! Because I look vaguely feminine it's easy for them to close their eyes and imagine it's a woman doing it. Because.....wait for it...there's no difference between a mans and womans mouth, its all in the wrapping. Those experiences are utter shite for me and I stopped doing it long ago, as they only want to unload and go because to do anything else would shatter the illusion that I'm female. Ergo, they are just straight and any warm mouth in a vaguely feminine wrapping is a goal. So hopefully my firsthand experience will open your eyes a little. Just checked with a Biology lecturer and a dictionary and " enjoying your cock sucked by a man " does indeed make you bi or gay by definition of the English language. It isn't my definition. Just say what you are ( as indeed you do ) and be proud of it Having your cock sucked is just that, it's a pleasurable experience that all guys enjoy regardless of if it's a girl or guy sucking it. anyone that says differently is lying. It only makes you bi/Gay if you enjoy sucking cock. If you were blindfolded and someone started sucking your cock you wouldn't be thinking are they a guy or girl... You'd just sit back and enjoy it. again,someone can't grasp the fact that a straight guy isn't straight if he likes his cock sucked by another guy,why is this so difficult to understand? Exactly. This thread has had comments from a fair few guys who are clearly in the closet with no intention of climbing out I have read through this thread with interest and you saying no intention of climbing out and be proud etc I think is not fair. People are entitled to their privacy and discretion regardless and shouldn't be forced to proclaim themselves as something they feel they are not. You keep banging on about the dictionary, look up bisexual and you will see the term was coined in the 19th century and widely accepted that it means bisexuals are attracted to more than one gender. Men who are not attracted to other men and who partake in "kinky" fun are not in the true sense bisexual imo. And any man who says blindfolded they would tell the difference of a man or woman sucking their cock is talking out their arse! lol I would know as most men have face hair and make me sore . lol even when they think thy have a close shave its them bits left around there lip , lol Ooh I don't know Jo, M is baby smooth after a shave, no roughness at all " . Minus the last smiley! Oops! | |||
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"James, your rampant heterosexuality clearly gives you a lot of pleasure But a man or woman lying back and enjoying 'someone' performing oral sex on them....no, thats just enjoying someone doing you a favour. " A favour eh ? You make it sound like my neighbour has offered to take my grass cuttings to the refuse tip . Picture the scene - I'm layed out on my garden lawn naked and I'm grunting and groaning as the bloke next door is sucking my cock like a good un. I'm lost in the moment thus oblivious to the arrival of my girlfriend who on observation proclaims - " And what's going on here then James ?" To which I reply - " Don't worry love It's Stan he's just doing me a favour my heterosexual credentials are fully intact " Is my girlfriend liable to retort - " You crack on love I love a bit of heterosexual voyeurism " Well is she ????????? You reference my rampant heterosexual tastes as if they are a trifle quirky or niche when they are in fact neither. Being heterosexual is the statistical norm I'm not fussed what anyone's sexual tastes are but being heterosexual is not a minority pursuit | |||
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"My tuppence worth, There does seem to be more stigma attached to male bisexuality than female, I've yet to see a thread on a woman saying she loves to go down on another woman but she is as straight as a die. Bi curious to me means that they are willing and open to experimenting with the same sex but haven't as yet...or haven't quite made their mind up. There are different levels of bisexuality for men such as orally bi, or the full hog up the bum sex. Lots of people experiment and some will enjoy and others won't. Some won't experiment at all as they consider themselves 100% straight and show disgust at the thought of any male to male contact, is this nature or nurture? And are they increasing the stigma which in turn increases the amount of bi guys who put straight on their profiles? These (bi)guys also want there cake and eat, it by deceiving straight people who want to avoid bi people into meeting and playing with them. We've heard many times the 'straight male' quoting you're only bi/gay if you take it line even though they seem to enjoy giving it to another male, sometimes because said male is wearing ladies clothes It takes more than a pretty dress and some chicken fillets to change sex. It took me an long time to go from thinking and fantasising about bi sex to actually trying it, having a homophobic racist as a father can make you a bit wary of being open about certain things... I didn't come out to my family until after he had died. I prefer to meet other tgirls then single men, and I like to play with couples whether the male dresses or not. My friends and family know about my inclinations and I'm happy to be bi, if others aren't happy with that, jog on... I've had single male profiles, single bi/bi curious male profiles and TV profiles on various sites over the years and I now get more responses than ever, be that in response to mail I send or others initiating contact, so for me, being honest about who and what I am has resulted in more people being interested in me, for who I am. As for the OP, it's been said before, there are filters to block contact from people you don't want to hear from, and there has been some good advice on changing your profile pics to attract females and couples. Anyway I've got a wall to re-build so tah dah." Well said | |||
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" a straight guy just wouldn't "lie back" and enjoy 'someone' performing oral sex on them....if he did...he wouldn't be straight,call it medieval but its true Again, you are judging people by your own definitions, and as I said from firsthand experience of this. You. Are. Wrong. Just because you have to do a package check every time someone touches you doesn't mean others have to. " if their straight they do | |||
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"James, your rampant heterosexuality clearly gives you a lot of pleasure But a man or woman lying back and enjoying 'someone' performing oral sex on them....no, thats just enjoying someone doing you a favour. A favour eh ? You make it sound like my neighbour has offered to take my grass cuttings to the refuse tip . Picture the scene - I'm layed out on my garden lawn naked and I'm grunting and groaning as the bloke next door is sucking my cock like a good un. I'm lost in the moment thus oblivious to the arrival of my girlfriend who on observation proclaims - " And what's going on here then James ?" To which I reply - " Don't worry love It's Stan he's just doing me a favour my heterosexual credentials are fully intact " Is my girlfriend liable to retort - " You crack on love I love a bit of heterosexual voyeurism " Well is she ????????? You reference my rampant heterosexual tastes as if they are a trifle quirky or niche when they are in fact neither. Being heterosexual is the statistical norm I'm not fussed what anyone's sexual tastes are but being heterosexual is not a minority pursuit " Your above post is utter horseshite and shows you are completely missing the point. Which is that it's possible for people to have same sex sexual contact and not be bi/gay. If you're so insecure in your sexuality that you have to keep asserting it then you need help. My reference to your rampant heterosexuality is because of this, you seem to be one of these "Grrrrr, I'm a man me! Must assert that I'm in no way gay, Grrrr" blokes. To be honest, this is one of those situations where your opinion really shouldn't count. Not everyones opinion is equally valid on every subject. Me commenting on the pain of childbirth for example, i'd rightly be told to piss off by a woman who's had kids. As a straight guy you've never had experience of same sex relations, so how qualified are you to know if it's possible to tell the difference between a man or woman sucking you off without looking. Or if it's possible to indulge in sex with someone like me and still class yourself as straight. It's on record on my profile my feelings on this. I believe any man that wants full sex with me is bi/gay. They don't always see it that way though and it's their opinion that counts. So breathe and relax. None of us gayers is trying to touch you or drag you over to the pink side of the street. | |||
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"James, your rampant heterosexuality clearly gives you a lot of pleasure But a man or woman lying back and enjoying 'someone' performing oral sex on them....no, thats just enjoying someone doing you a favour. A favour eh ? You make it sound like my neighbour has offered to take my grass cuttings to the refuse tip . Picture the scene - I'm layed out on my garden lawn naked and I'm grunting and groaning as the bloke next door is sucking my cock like a good un. I'm lost in the moment thus oblivious to the arrival of my girlfriend who on observation proclaims - " And what's going on here then James ?" To which I reply - " Don't worry love It's Stan he's just doing me a favour my heterosexual credentials are fully intact " Is my girlfriend liable to retort - " You crack on love I love a bit of heterosexual voyeurism " Well is she ????????? You reference my rampant heterosexual tastes as if they are a trifle quirky or niche when they are in fact neither. Being heterosexual is the statistical norm I'm not fussed what anyone's sexual tastes are but being heterosexual is not a minority pursuit Your above post is utter horseshite and shows you are completely missing the point. Which is that it's possible for people to have same sex sexual contact and not be bi/gay. If you're so insecure in your sexuality that you have to keep asserting it then you need help. My reference to your rampant heterosexuality is because of this, you seem to be one of these "Grrrrr, I'm a man me! Must assert that I'm in no way gay, Grrrr" blokes. To be honest, this is one of those situations where your opinion really shouldn't count. Not everyones opinion is equally valid on every subject. Me commenting on the pain of childbirth for example, i'd rightly be told to piss off by a woman who's had kids. As a straight guy you've never had experience of same sex relations, so how qualified are you to know if it's possible to tell the difference between a man or woman sucking you off without looking. Or if it's possible to indulge in sex with someone like me and still class yourself as straight. It's on record on my profile my feelings on this. I believe any man that wants full sex with me is bi/gay. They don't always see it that way though and it's their opinion that counts. So breathe and relax. None of us gayers is trying to touch you or drag you over to the pink side of the street." We've established that you believe a guy can be straight and still enjoy his cock sucked and that he can fuck other men as you believe gender proclivity labels are mere conjecture. As a national newspaper journalist I forwarded this belief to the Sciences section and they are wondering if you skipped Human Biology classes at school ? I'd be very interested to know what you do consider to be hard and fast " FACTS " on a profile if it's fine to have sex with guys but label yourself honestly as straight ? Is it ok to to dress as a lady whilst being a man and state that you have a pussy ? If I'm 5ft4 but see myself as 6ft plus is that ok to list on my profile ? If I'm bald but remember back to when I had long hair is it ok to state that I have said long hair ? If I'm fat but see myself as skinny is it ok to list myself as such on my profile ? What is a fact and what is conjecture in your eyes ? To state rather absurdly that I have any gay/bi fear agenda is utter rubbish as I have good friends who are gay,bi and lesbian. I'm a forum friend of one of the most articulate guys on here as it happens in soxy so you should have done your homework before espousing such drivel | |||
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"It's fairly obvious from my profile and verifications that I into meeting women, couples, TVs, TSs and TGs people. However a get quite a few emails from 'straight' asking if I fancy some 'cock fun' or a blow job." They're not " straight " then and they either lie on their profile or are deluded | |||
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"It's fairly obvious from my profile and verifications that I into meeting women, couples, TVs, TSs and TGs people. However a get quite a few emails from 'straight' asking if I fancy some 'cock fun' or a blow job. They're not " straight " then and they either lie on their profile or are deluded" That's what makes me laugh, I presume they're worried that it'll discourage single women and straight couples if they tell the truth. I think most people prefer honesty in the people they have sex with, I've et a lot of straight women and couples. | |||
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" Is it ok to to dress as a lady whilst being a man and state that you have a pussy ? " Most definitely not, People have been prosecuted and put on the sex offenders list for doing so... Sexual assault. I'm not sure this would transfer to say a 'straight' male say joining a straight couple then grabbing the male half of the couples cock. Here is a case of a fem to Male transgendered who met another girl whilst not being truthful about her bits down below, it's a bit long to copy and paste the whole lot here But here it is. http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2013/1051.html http://www.vice.com/read/should-trans-people-have-to-disclose-their-birth-gender-before-sex So if you decide to lie about who or what you are to gain a sexual advantage you may find yourself in court and possible in prison and on the register with sex offenders... | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition " | |||
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" Is it ok to to dress as a lady whilst being a man and state that you have a pussy ? Most definitely not, People have been prosecuted and put on the sex offenders list for doing so... Sexual assault. I'm not sure this would transfer to say a 'straight' male say joining a straight couple then grabbing the male half of the couples cock. Here is a case of a fem to Male transgendered who met another girl whilst not being truthful about her bits down below, it's a bit long to copy and paste the whole lot here But here it is. http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2013/1051.html http://www.vice.com/read/should-trans-people-have-to-disclose-their-birth-gender-before-sex So if you decide to lie about who or what you are to gain a sexual advantage you may find yourself in court and possible in prison and on the register with sex offenders..." Just referenced soxi and then another highly articulate tv/ts forum regular arrives. Our Scottish thread regular above feels that It's all conjecture Abi and that it's fine as a man to spend your time having sex with guys but list yourself as straight with no moral angle regarding a lie | |||
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"My tuppence worth, There does seem to be more stigma attached to male bisexuality than female, I've yet to see a thread on a woman saying she loves to go down on another woman but she is as straight as a die. Bi curious to me means that they are willing and open to experimenting with the same sex but haven't as yet...or haven't quite made their mind up. There are different levels of bisexuality for men such as orally bi, or the full hog up the bum sex. Lots of people experiment and some will enjoy and others won't. Some won't experiment at all as they consider themselves 100% straight and show disgust at the thought of any male to male contact, is this nature or nurture? And are they increasing the stigma which in turn increases the amount of bi guys who put straight on their profiles? These (bi)guys also want there cake and eat, it by deceiving straight people who want to avoid bi people into meeting and playing with them. We've heard many times the 'straight male' quoting you're only bi/gay if you take it line even though they seem to enjoy giving it to another male, sometimes because said male is wearing ladies clothes It takes more than a pretty dress and some chicken fillets to change sex. It took me an long time to go from thinking and fantasising about bi sex to actually trying it, having a homophobic racist as a father can make you a bit wary of being open about certain things... I didn't come out to my family until after he had died. I prefer to meet other tgirls then single men, and I like to play with couples whether the male dresses or not. My friends and family know about my inclinations and I'm happy to be bi, if others aren't happy with that, jog on... I've had single male profiles, single bi/bi curious male profiles and TV profiles on various sites over the years and I now get more responses than ever, be that in response to mail I send or others initiating contact, so for me, being honest about who and what I am has resulted in more people being interested in me, for who I am. As for the OP, it's been said before, there are filters to block contact from people you don't want to hear from, and there has been some good advice on changing your profile pics to attract females and couples. Anyway I've got a wall to re-build so tah dah." | |||
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"think they are just chancing their luck, as a straight guy it would be a cold day in hell before I would let them do it! and yes it does make a difference who's doing it, if its a man doing a man how can you be straight? " unless your wearing a blindfold ha...ffs | |||
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"Are ye all forgetting that this is a swing site and this is where people experment,in a threeway or group suitation there is loads of hands and cocks and in the heat if the moment anything can happen . Its all about fun and getting the best out of a meet and if that means the two guys sucking cocks its doesnt mean there bi it just means it was a hot meet.. But if they go looking for cock on every meet then there is something more there thats what we feel . " I think it helps if you're bi at group events, freaking out because your hand, face or part of a body accidentally touches a cock wouldn't be fun for all involved | |||
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"think they are just chancing their luck, as a straight guy it would be a cold day in hell before I would let them do it! and yes it does make a difference who's doing it, if its a man doing a man how can you be straight? " Exactly my friend but deluded folk feel they can twist terminology definitions to suit themselves. Someone who feels that fucking and sucking guys fits with being a straight guy by any source of reference you care to mention is delusional | |||
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"Are ye all forgetting that this is a swing site and this is where people experment,in a threeway or group suitation there is loads of hands and cocks and in the heat if the moment anything can happen . Its all about fun and getting the best out of a meet and if that means the two guys sucking cocks its doesnt mean there bi it just means it was a hot meet.. But if they go looking for cock on every meet then there is something more there thats what we feel . " Once or twice fair enough that could be down to experimenting but much more and you have to face the fact that it's not just curious experimentation anymore. It's not for me to label others whom are more than capable of labelling yourselves. A bisexual doesn't look for it on every occasion a gay person does. We all interpret things differently and are forced on this site to select labels to describe ourselves in our profiles, maybe a few more boxes are required to tick,such as hetexible bi-friendly and bi-fuckifyoutouchmycockI'llkillyer. | |||
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"Are ye all forgetting that this is a swing site and this is where people experment,in a threeway or group suitation there is loads of hands and cocks and in the heat if the moment anything can happen . Its all about fun and getting the best out of a meet and if that means the two guys sucking cocks its doesnt mean there bi it just means it was a hot meet.. But if they go looking for cock on every meet then there is something more there thats what we feel . " it most definitely doesn't mean their straight....... | |||
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" it most definitely doesn't mean their straight......." For all it doesn't mean they're bi either. If someone tries it a few times and doesn't like it no one is going to forever label them bi. If they loved it and continue to do it then yes they are not straight and if they want to be honest with themselves and others should be label themselves as bi in some form, be that orally bi or whatever, there are things that some bi guys will indulge in that others won't, I'm sure I don't need to spell it all out. Because someone is open minded enough to try before they bi doesn't mean they have to be permanently branded with a certain label... | |||
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" it most definitely doesn't mean their straight....... For all it doesn't mean they're bi either. If someone tries it a few times and doesn't like it no one is going to forever label them bi. If they loved it and continue to do it then yes they are not straight and if they want to be honest with themselves and others should be label themselves as bi in some form, be that orally bi or whatever, there are things that some bi guys will indulge in that others won't, I'm sure I don't need to spell it all out. Because someone is open minded enough to try before they bi doesn't mean they have to be permanently branded with a certain label..." openminded doesn't come into it,a straight guy would not suck cock,the thought would revolt him.....if he was straight that is....... | |||
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"James, do go back and re read my posts, I'm not typing it all out again. You're deliberately muddying waters which are already pretty fucking cloudy with absurdities about your bald head and height. I've given you an example from my own experience of how some guys see themselves. I said in my last one that I think guys who want sex with tv's are kidding themselves. It's on record on my profile. But it's what THEY feel and call themselves. I just don't happen to want to meet them as the sex is shit for me. So what we both feel on this subject is opinion. Mine can be considered to be better informed though. You can have all the articulate gay/bi/tv friends you want, but until you've been bent over and fucked, or sucked that dick, how can you be so arrogant to assume you know what someone feels with regards to attraction? But if you're going to try that tack, I'll bet I know more gay/bi people than you, of all levels of articulation and we've a pretty good handle on sex from all ends (good phrasing). I haven't always been Bi or a TV, I spent a lot of time as a straight guy in a straight guys world before I discovered I was this way, quite by accident. So I'll take my own opinions on this as a multiple sexuality scouts badge. And yes, I think from comments in your earlier posts you're shit scared of a guy ever touching you, even by accident in a sexual situation. Sorry if thats wrong but it's how you came across to me. " So Jodie ? it was a genuine question out of my examples which ones do you call fact and which ones are conjecture ? If I'm wrong and heterosexual sex for a man can include giving guys blow jobs and fucking them up the ass isn't it a bit odd that my science colleagues at the newspaper who all have masters degrees in science haven't picked up on my error ? Please provide me with any scientific reference that supports your claim ? I'm enjoying this thread and have nothing against yourself | |||
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"As far as I'm concerned they can label themselves in any way they feel comfortable/appropriate - just so long as they keep getting in touch " So you'd like a society that's free of hard facts and definitions whereby people can call anything by any term they so choose ? No dictionaries? We arrange to meet and you're waiting for me in your blue car at the agreed ten o'clock which unfortunately is a red car by my thinking on colour and I keep time two hours ahead of you so I've left prior to you arriving so we can't find each other on grounds of colour and time zones. How would society operate in that scenario ? Definitions and facts exist for good reason | |||
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"As far as I'm concerned they can label themselves in any way they feel comfortable/appropriate - just so long as they keep getting in touch So you'd like a society that's free of hard facts and definitions whereby people can call anything by any term they so choose ? No dictionaries? We arrange to meet and you're waiting for me in your blue car at the agreed ten o'clock which unfortunately is a red car by my thinking on colour and I keep time two hours ahead of you so I've left prior to you arriving so we can't find each other on grounds of colour and time zones. How would society operate in that scenario ? Definitions and facts exist for good reason " | |||
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"As far as I'm concerned they can label themselves in any way they feel comfortable/appropriate - just so long as they keep getting in touch So you'd like a society that's free of hard facts and definitions whereby people can call anything by any term they so choose ? No dictionaries? We arrange to meet and you're waiting for me in your blue car at the agreed ten o'clock which unfortunately is a red car by my thinking on colour and I keep time two hours ahead of you so I've left prior to you arriving so we can't find each other on grounds of colour and time zones. How would society operate in that scenario ? Definitions and facts exist for good reason " Actually chuck at nearly 60 id like to be left to get on wiv me awfully jolly life in peace n contentment wivout worrying what colour car u are/are not turning up in If chaps feel more comfortable deciphering themselves as 'straight' - for ME PERSONALLY - the world has more pressing matters that people could make a significant difference by being engaged in. | |||
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"As far as I'm concerned they can label themselves in any way they feel comfortable/appropriate - just so long as they keep getting in touch So you'd like a society that's free of hard facts and definitions whereby people can call anything by any term they so choose ? No dictionaries? We arrange to meet and you're waiting for me in your blue car at the agreed ten o'clock which unfortunately is a red car by my thinking on colour and I keep time two hours ahead of you so I've left prior to you arriving so we can't find each other on grounds of colour and time zones. How would society operate in that scenario ? Definitions and facts exist for good reason Actually chuck at nearly 60 id like to be left to get on wiv me awfully jolly life in peace n contentment wivout worrying what colour car u are/are not turning up in If chaps feel more comfortable deciphering themselves as 'straight' - for ME PERSONALLY - the world has more pressing matters that people could make a significant difference by being engaged in. " Chuck ? The world as you'd be happy with it free of definitions wouldn't function at all. You are talking balderdash. toodle pip | |||
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" it most definitely doesn't mean their straight....... For all it doesn't mean they're bi either. If someone tries it a few times and doesn't like it no one is going to forever label them bi. If they loved it and continue to do it then yes they are not straight and if they want to be honest with themselves and others should be label themselves as bi in some form, be that orally bi or whatever, there are things that some bi guys will indulge in that others won't, I'm sure I don't need to spell it all out. Because someone is open minded enough to try before they bi doesn't mean they have to be permanently branded with a certain label... openminded doesn't come into it,a straight guy would not suck cock,the thought would revolt him.....if he was straight that is......." So someone that tries it once and doesn't like it is forever bi??? That makes you sound like a homophobic idiot. I tried plastering once does that make me a plasterer? | |||
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" I tried plastering once does that make me a plasterer? " I certainly wouldn't pay you to do any plastering for me. I've been told I'm good at sucking cock but I don't really enjoy it so just tend to have the odd play with my mouth as part of the pleasurable experience of a meet. I wouldn't dream of trying to give a 'straight' or bi guy a blow job, but will play with TVs etc's cocks. I think we should just all get on with our lives, fuck, sucked and be sucked by / with anyone who's happy with it, better if you're honest with sexual partners though. | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition " Ah James, I was going to mail you after you looked at my profile, purely in a fun pleasant way with a couple of thoughts and comments. However, sadly you've blocked mails from people of my sex. It wasn't going to be nasty or I can assure you asking you to suck my cock, (I've already made it clear on here that point). Just wanted to ask a couple of questions of someone who clearly has a bright enquiring mind and is not afraid of speaking his opinion. Please no one have a do at James over this, he like me has probably had enough emails from 'straight' guys wanting to suck his cock. If you mail me James I promise a sensible reply. Mike | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Ah James, I was going to mail you after you looked at my profile, purely in a fun pleasant way with a couple of thoughts and comments. However, sadly you've blocked mails from people of my sex. It wasn't going to be nasty or I can assure you asking you to suck my cock, (I've already made it clear on here that point). Just wanted to ask a couple of questions of someone who clearly has a bright enquiring mind and is not afraid of speaking his opinion. Please no one have a do at James over this, he like me has probably had enough emails from 'straight' guys wanting to suck his cock. If you mail me James I promise a sensible reply. Mike" I'm happy to mail you Mike. You sound a decent and reasoned guy. Message coming up | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition Ah James, I was going to mail you after you looked at my profile, purely in a fun pleasant way with a couple of thoughts and comments. However, sadly you've blocked mails from people of my sex. It wasn't going to be nasty or I can assure you asking you to suck my cock, (I've already made it clear on here that point). Just wanted to ask a couple of questions of someone who clearly has a bright enquiring mind and is not afraid of speaking his opinion. Please no one have a do at James over this, he like me has probably had enough emails from 'straight' guys wanting to suck his cock. If you mail me James I promise a sensible reply. Mike I'm happy to mail you Mike. You sound a decent and reasoned guy. Message coming up" Replied | |||
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" it most definitely doesn't mean their straight....... For all it doesn't mean they're bi either. If someone tries it a few times and doesn't like it no one is going to forever label them bi. If they loved it and continue to do it then yes they are not straight and if they want to be honest with themselves and others should be label themselves as bi in some form, be that orally bi or whatever, there are things that some bi guys will indulge in that others won't, I'm sure I don't need to spell it all out. Because someone is open minded enough to try before they bi doesn't mean they have to be permanently branded with a certain label... openminded doesn't come into it,a straight guy would not suck cock,the thought would revolt him.....if he was straight that is....... So someone that tries it once and doesn't like it is forever bi??? That makes you sound like a homophobic idiot. I tried plastering once does that make me a plasterer? " sucking a cock would not enter a straight guys head(so to speak)he wouldn't be straight if he did,you are coming across as rather thick | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition " its not quite that simple. as a girl im bi but when im not dressed up im straight as id never go with a guy | |||
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"Have had loads of request off guys offering to suck me off, not bi, but seems a lot of guys like to suck a straight guy,???? Anyone know anythin i dont...." Yea - straight guys who suck penises aren't straight | |||
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"Have had loads of request off guys offering to suck me off, not bi, but seems a lot of guys like to suck a straight guy,???? Anyone know anythin i dont...." The difference between a straight guy and a bi guy is usually about 12 cans of stella lol | |||
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"Have had loads of request off guys offering to suck me off, not bi, but seems a lot of guys like to suck a straight guy,???? Anyone know anythin i dont.... The difference between a straight guy and a bi guy is usually about 12 cans of stella lol " Even after 12 cans of Stella I can still tell the difference between cock and pussy, believe it or not... | |||
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"Have had loads of request off guys offering to suck me off, not bi, but seems a lot of guys like to suck a straight guy,???? Anyone know anythin i dont.... The difference between a straight guy and a bi guy is usually about 12 cans of stella lol " Hahaha - BLIMEY - that's an old one lol | |||
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"With some, myself included, this sensory deprivation can heighten the experience, and it doesn't make it any less pleasurable not knowing who is doing it to me. Of course it doesn't matter to you if it's a man or a lady sucking your cock because you're " bi-sexual ". If you're straight it DOES matter. To suggest that having a wank could be deemed to be " gay activity " is beyond daft as it's a singular pursuit Not one involving a same sex partner or indeed other sex partner. Would you thus suggest that a solo evening stroll could be deemed self stalking ?" Brilliant, just love your analogies and fully agree. XXXX | |||
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" So Jodie ? it was a genuine question out of my examples which ones do you call fact and which ones are conjecture ? If I'm wrong and heterosexual sex for a man can include giving guys blow jobs and fucking them up the ass isn't it a bit odd that my science colleagues at the newspaper who all have masters degrees in science haven't picked up on my error ? Please provide me with any scientific reference that supports your claim ? I'm enjoying this thread and have nothing against yourself " My original point was that yes its possible for a straight guy to recieve oral and/or give A, and still be straight. In their eyes. Digest that. That is fact not conjecture. I have firsthand experience of this. Not just from one man but several. When a guy arrives after arranging a meet and won't look me in the eye, hardly say anything, wouldn't touch me aside from holding the back of my head or hips and generally seems uncomfortable until he, usually quickly, shoots and leaves. Those are straight men who, for whatever reason, have decided that a man who looks like a woman is the next best thing to onanism. Thats why they couldn't care less about whether I get any release from the meeting, they just need a vaguely feminine hole to fuck so they can tell themselves it's not gay. And after it has finished they still class themselves as straight. Those men wouldn't even think about meeting a guy. It's the hair makeup and clothes that count. I've had this discussion with guys at TV/Admirer clubs and the answer is always the same, "you look like a woman and I wouldn't touch a regular guy". If you don't believe me take yourself to CandyGirls in London or Pink Punters in Milton Keynes and ask a few yourself. They'll be there. So, if enough people believe something then it must be valid. Religion is based on this. As I also said, I actually happen to agree with you. I believe they are gay/bi. The sex for me is very one sided for reasons stated above. I won't meet them anymore as I prefer mutual pleasure from men who want to meet a tv because they like that. But I'm happy to accept they want to call themselves straight because I know this subject is most definitely not black or white. Sorry, but having friends with masters degrees or knowing a few people like me and forming your opinion, then classing it as fact based on what they tell you is not the same as my extensive research on the subject. Research that gives me sore knees and arse. There are many men out there who will receive oral from and give anal to men, and are still straight. You CANNOT tell the difference between a mans or womans mouth without looking, and an arse is the same on either sex also. Have you've ever met a really convincing TV/TS? One with whom you'd actually have to have a look inside the knicks to tell? Because they are out there and some of them would make you think twice. Even for just a split second. Please don't make me type anything this long on my smartphone again. My thumbs hurt. I'm right because of my firsthand experience. You're not. | |||
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"This old chestnut that you can be straight but enjoy a guy sucking your member is pure balderdash. If you participate in/enjoy said activity you're either bi or gay by definition its not quite that simple. as a girl im bi but when im not dressed up im straight as id never go with a guy " I was talking to a TV at Sparkle the other week and she said exactly the same thing, others have don e too. I wouldn't have sex with a TV who wasn't dressed, but I do class myself as bi, I just think I'm being honest. I do try and give the TV pleasure too, I don't just view her as somewhere to dump my cum. | |||
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" So Jodie ? it was a genuine question out of my examples which ones do you call fact and which ones are conjecture ? If I'm wrong and heterosexual sex for a man can include giving guys blow jobs and fucking them up the ass isn't it a bit odd that my science colleagues at the newspaper who all have masters degrees in science haven't picked up on my error ? Please provide me with any scientific reference that supports your claim ? I'm enjoying this thread and have nothing against yourself My original point was that yes its possible for a straight guy to recieve oral and/or give A, and still be straight. In their eyes. Digest that. That is fact not conjecture. I have firsthand experience of this. Not just from one man but several. When a guy arrives after arranging a meet and won't look me in the eye, hardly say anything, wouldn't touch me aside from holding the back of my head or hips and generally seems uncomfortable until he, usually quickly, shoots and leaves. Those are straight men who, for whatever reason, have decided that a man who looks like a woman is the next best thing to onanism. Thats why they couldn't care less about whether I get any release from the meeting, they just need a vaguely feminine hole to fuck so they can tell themselves it's not gay. And after it has finished they still class themselves as straight. Those men wouldn't even think about meeting a guy. It's the hair makeup and clothes that count. I've had this discussion with guys at TV/Admirer clubs and the answer is always the same, "you look like a woman and I wouldn't touch a regular guy". If you don't believe me take yourself to CandyGirls in London or Pink Punters in Milton Keynes and ask a few yourself. They'll be there. So, if enough people believe something then it must be valid. Religion is based on this. As I also said, I actually happen to agree with you. I believe they are gay/bi. The sex for me is very one sided for reasons stated above. I won't meet them anymore as I prefer mutual pleasure from men who want to meet a tv because they like that. But I'm happy to accept they want to call themselves straight because I know this subject is most definitely not black or white. Sorry, but having friends with masters degrees or knowing a few people like me and forming your opinion, then classing it as fact based on what they tell you is not the same as my extensive research on the subject. Research that gives me sore knees and arse. There are many men out there who will receive oral from and give anal to men, and are still straight. You CANNOT tell the difference between a mans or womans mouth without looking, and an arse is the same on either sex also. Have you've ever met a really convincing TV/TS? One with whom you'd actually have to have a look inside the knicks to tell? Because they are out there and some of them would make you think twice. Even for just a split second. Please don't make me type anything this long on my smartphone again. My thumbs hurt. I'm right because of my firsthand experience. You're not. " Seems to me you are both right, Jodie says she knows guys that consider themselves straight despite fucking guys and James says they are bi/gay. Just because they obviously are doesn't mean they don't think so. I think we all know people that think they are something they are not. | |||
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" So Jodie ? it was a genuine question out of my examples which ones do you call fact and which ones are conjecture ? If I'm wrong and heterosexual sex for a man can include giving guys blow jobs and fucking them up the ass isn't it a bit odd that my science colleagues at the newspaper who all have masters degrees in science haven't picked up on my error ? Please provide me with any scientific reference that supports your claim ? I'm enjoying this thread and have nothing against yourself My original point was that yes its possible for a straight guy to recieve oral and/or give A, and still be straight. In their eyes. Digest that. That is fact not conjecture. I have firsthand experience of this. Not just from one man but several. When a guy arrives after arranging a meet and won't look me in the eye, hardly say anything, wouldn't touch me aside from holding the back of my head or hips and generally seems uncomfortable until he, usually quickly, shoots and leaves. Those are straight men who, for whatever reason, have decided that a man who looks like a woman is the next best thing to onanism. Thats why they couldn't care less about whether I get any release from the meeting, they just need a vaguely feminine hole to fuck so they can tell themselves it's not gay. And after it has finished they still class themselves as straight. Those men wouldn't even think about meeting a guy. It's the hair makeup and clothes that count. I've had this discussion with guys at TV/Admirer clubs and the answer is always the same, "you look like a woman and I wouldn't touch a regular guy". If you don't believe me take yourself to CandyGirls in London or Pink Punters in Milton Keynes and ask a few yourself. They'll be there. So, if enough people believe something then it must be valid. Religion is based on this. As I also said, I actually happen to agree with you. I believe they are gay/bi. The sex for me is very one sided for reasons stated above. I won't meet them anymore as I prefer mutual pleasure from men who want to meet a tv because they like that. But I'm happy to accept they want to call themselves straight because I know this subject is most definitely not black or white. Sorry, but having friends with masters degrees or knowing a few people like me and forming your opinion, then classing it as fact based on what they tell you is not the same as my extensive research on the subject. Research that gives me sore knees and arse. There are many men out there who will receive oral from and give anal to men, and are still straight. You CANNOT tell the difference between a mans or womans mouth without looking, and an arse is the same on either sex also. Have you've ever met a really convincing TV/TS? One with whom you'd actually have to have a look inside the knicks to tell? Because they are out there and some of them would make you think twice. Even for just a split second. Please don't make me type anything this long on my smartphone again. My thumbs hurt. I'm right because of my firsthand experience. You're not. " There are many men out there who will receive oral from and give anal to men, and are still straight....pmsl..your serious aren't you..... | |||
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"I'm bisexual. I know some people hate the idea and others love it. I'm not overly proud of being bi, nor do I hide it. I'm more attracted to women on the 'bi spectrum' and don't fancy men, just happy to suck their cock if they're in a m/f etc situation. I mainly play straight. It's no big deal really. Horses for courses and c'est la vie. Live and let live. " ditto, well put | |||
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"All this "go with the flow" bullshit from "straight" guys always makes us laugh. Its like saying a horse is a cow depending on its mood at any given time, absolute shite, it can only be one or the other no matter how it feels. As for blindfold blow jobs, if I was in a room with women and guys I didn't know, there's no way I'd wear a blindfold in the first place. Just the thought that it may be a guy doing the sucking would stop me getting the horn but then again I'm straight. Last but not least, what has romance and relationships got to do with sexual activity? The phrase is bi sexual not bi relational. Its nothing to do with having a relationship but all to do with sexual acts with same sex partners, in this case other guys. XXXX" I feel that the phrase " we all know someone who thinks that they're something that they're not " is jolly apt. I'm afraid this idea from Jodie that if multiple people believe something then it has validity is simply incorrect. Facts exist and a society couldn't function without them. I was recently at a pub quiz and a wrong answer was given by the question master as correct to a question regarding what decade a record was released in . It came out in late 1979 yet wasn't a hit until the 1980's and everyone present apart from myself had answered 1980's and the question master had said correct. I showed him the correct answer on my phone after the quiz and he corrected the error. Facts are facts and don't let any amount of incorrect people try and tell you otherwise. A fact doesn't change in relation to popular consensus on a particular question at a given point in time | |||
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"Seems to us that the real problem here is people like us who say, "We are at our core, straight heterosexuals BUT we are both fully comfortable and enjoy same sex sex from time to time". This in our experience seems to cover it for a hell of a lot of people. It seems biggest problem for the 'straight people' with this statement is that its seen to dilute what straight is supposed to be. So its ok to carry the label 'bisexual' and have heterosexual sex from time to time but its NOT ok to be 'straight' and enjoy a bit of same sex sex from time to time " You enjoy " same sex sex from time to time " therefore you're bi sexual by definition and not straight so you're simply using the wrong label as believe it or not straight people don't enjoy sex with the same gender from time to time or indeed at any time | |||
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"Seems to us that the real problem here is people like us who say, "We are at our core, straight heterosexuals BUT we are both fully comfortable and enjoy same sex sex from time to time". This in our experience seems to cover it for a hell of a lot of people. It seems biggest problem for the 'straight people' with this statement is that its seen to dilute what straight is supposed to be. So its ok to carry the label 'bisexual' and have heterosexual sex from time to time but its NOT ok to be 'straight' and enjoy a bit of same sex sex from time to time You enjoy " same sex sex from time to time " therefore you're bi sexual by definition and not straight so you're simply using the wrong label as believe it or not straight people don't enjoy sex with the same gender from time to time or indeed at any time" I have read the post and James is correct in the black and white definition of bisexuality. The difficulty is the grey area. I like to think of sexuality is on a scale, at one end 100% straight and the other end 100% Gay. Bisexual being in the middle and by my definition a bi man would meet with other men on his own or couples and have oral and anal sex. On the scale a man may only receive a oral sex from a man or give oral to a man in a mmf situation, has no attraction to men and class themselves straight. This may happen once every couple of years. Technically they would be bisexual, but would be more straight than bi on the scale. I have had my cock sucked by a lady at a a party and another man had his cock sucked by the same woman at the same time(double cock suck) she rubbed our cocks together in her mouth. I would say i am straight, but a 100% straight man would not have let the double cock suck happen. Just trying to emphasize how grey and difficult it is with labels and the definitions that come with it, that people do not fall into. happy swinging everyone | |||
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"Seems to us that the real problem here is people like us who say, "We are at our core, straight heterosexuals BUT we are both fully comfortable and enjoy same sex sex from time to time". This in our experience seems to cover it for a hell of a lot of people. It seems biggest problem for the 'straight people' with this statement is that its seen to dilute what straight is supposed to be. So its ok to carry the label 'bisexual' and have heterosexual sex from time to time but its NOT ok to be 'straight' and enjoy a bit of same sex sex from time to time You enjoy " same sex sex from time to time " therefore you're bi sexual by definition and not straight so you're simply using the wrong label as believe it or not straight people don't enjoy sex with the same gender from time to time or indeed at any time I have read the post and James is correct in the black and white definition of bisexuality. The difficulty is the grey area. I like to think of sexuality is on a scale, at one end 100% straight and the other end 100% Gay. Bisexual being in the middle and by my definition a bi man would meet with other men on his own or couples and have oral and anal sex. On the scale a man may only receive a oral sex from a man or give oral to a man in a mmf situation, has no attraction to men and class themselves straight. This may happen once every couple of years. Technically they would be bisexual, but would be more straight than bi on the scale. I have had my cock sucked by a lady at a a party and another man had his cock sucked by the same woman at the same time(double cock suck) she rubbed our cocks together in her mouth. I would say i am straight, but a 100% straight man would not have let the double cock suck happen. Just trying to emphasize how grey and difficult it is with labels and the definitions that come with it, that people do not fall into. happy swinging everyone " Well said | |||
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"And that is exactly the response I expected from you. Now if I were to label you as 'insecure with your own sexuality' you would tell me I'm wrong... right? Fact is only you know what is true in your own mind and no matter what labels anyone else tries to pin on you it will not change a thing... you will be who you are. The same applies to the rest of us, it matters not whatever labels you or anyone else chooses to try and pin on us, we will be who and what we are. Consider this... can anyone in all honesty put their hand up and say "I have NEVER EVER taken something that didn't belong to me"? The fact is anyone who has ever taken anything without the owners permission is by definition a thief. Does that mean everyone is a thief? An ex thief? A thief in denial of their true identity? Life is not just black and white, this state or that state, there are millions of combinations in between. Otherwise by default something like 90% of the population is at least bisexual on the basis of adolescent sexual experimentation and inquisitiveness. A friend of ours told us... "We were in a MFMF one time and I was getting a great blow-job. When I looked it turned out to be the other guy, not one of the girls. It was great so I thought 'what the hell'. I was straight before, and I'm still straight after the event but I did enjoy a BJ from the bloke at the time"... look that one up and find a label for it " Although you appear to believe that any piece of terminology can have a " as I please definition " it cannot. Words have actual meanings and if they didn't a society wouldn't function as we wouldn't know what each other meant. If you take something that doesn't belong to you without the owners permission it is indeed theft. If you don't own a dictionary try looking up the meaning of theft online now as it means what it says not what you feel it should mean | |||
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"Seems to us that the real problem here is people like us who say, "We are at our core, straight heterosexuals BUT we are both fully comfortable and enjoy same sex sex from time to time". This in our experience seems to cover it for a hell of a lot of people. It seems biggest problem for the 'straight people' with this statement is that its seen to dilute what straight is supposed to be. So its ok to carry the label 'bisexual' and have heterosexual sex from time to time but its NOT ok to be 'straight' and enjoy a bit of same sex sex from time to time You enjoy " same sex sex from time to time " therefore you're bi sexual by definition and not straight so you're simply using the wrong label as believe it or not straight people don't enjoy sex with the same gender from time to time or indeed at any time I have read the post and James is correct in the black and white definition of bisexuality. The difficulty is the grey area. I like to think of sexuality is on a scale, at one end 100% straight and the other end 100% Gay. Bisexual being in the middle and by my definition a bi man would meet with other men on his own or couples and have oral and anal sex. On the scale a man may only receive a oral sex from a man or give oral to a man in a mmf situation, has no attraction to men and class themselves straight. This may happen once every couple of years. Technically they would be bisexual, but would be more straight than bi on the scale. I have had my cock sucked by a lady at a a party and another man had his cock sucked by the same woman at the same time(double cock suck) she rubbed our cocks together in her mouth. I would say i am straight, but a 100% straight man would not have let the double cock suck happen. Just trying to emphasize how grey and difficult it is with labels and the definitions that come with it, that people do not fall into. happy swinging everyone " | |||
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" Although you appear to believe that any piece of terminology can have a " as I please definition " it cannot. Words have actual meanings and if they didn't a society wouldn't function as we wouldn't know what each other meant. If you take something that doesn't belong to you without the owners permission it is indeed theft. If you don't own a dictionary try looking up the meaning of theft online now as it means what it says not what you feel it should mean" Although not overly wanting to stir the pot, I've enjoyed the debate, but you state that society wouldn't function I we didn't understand each others meanings. I was always taught at school that language is an ever evolving thing? These grey areas that people feel about the definition of bi/gay/straight fit into this evolution of language don't they? My personal view on the OP's post is that it is indeed bi guys or at least bi curious (whatever that means) playing the odds and contacting with the hopes they may be doing the same. I do believe language evolves as society needs it to though and that this doesn't cause everyday life to suddenly cease to function with chaos ensuing because no one knows what's going on anymore? | |||
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" I'm afraid this idea from Jodie that if multiple people believe something then it has validity is simply incorrect. " Bullshit. All religion and belief in a god is based on this and requires no evidence or hard facts. "I was recently at a pub quiz and a wrong answer was given by the question master as correct to a question regarding what decade a record was released in . It came out in late 1979 yet wasn't a hit until the 1980's and everyone present apart from myself had answered 1980's and the question master had said correct. I showed him the correct answer on my phone after the quiz and he corrected the error. Facts are facts and don't let any amount of incorrect people try and tell you otherwise. A fact doesn't change in relation to popular consensus on a particular question at a given point in time" Your lovely little anecdote is utterly meaningless in this context. The question of whether a record came out in a particular year has an absolute answer. Someones perception or belief in their own sexuality has a huge psychological component, will differ from person to person and therefore cannot be absolute. Bring it....we have a few more posts left before the thread is shut. | |||
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" Although you appear to believe that any piece of terminology can have a " as I please definition " it cannot. Words have actual meanings and if they didn't a society wouldn't function as we wouldn't know what each other meant. If you take something that doesn't belong to you without the owners permission it is indeed theft. If you don't own a dictionary try looking up the meaning of theft online now as it means what it says not what you feel it should mean" I'm glad you used the word 'appear' because as a scientific development engineer my life mostly revolves around being very specific when it comes to definitions. Question, what does 'safe-sex' mean? What safe-sex means in swinging falls a hell of a long way short of the true meaning of the phrase. In the swinging hobby there is similar ambiguities in respect of the meaning of the term 'bisexual'. It's a word that has been adopted into an area of sexual behaviour that sometimes occurs within the swinging community. In your context of forcing the true meaning of a word everyone is a thief. How about you rationalise the psychology of masturbation and its implications in respect of sexuality... after all, by your reckoning if a male touches a penis with sexual intent then he must be gay or bisexual. So when a bloke masturbates that a male hand sexually stimulating a mans penis that typically end in sexual climax. We have a word for it, its called masturbation but what is the psychology of it? The accepted answer is its ok because its not someone else's cock. But is still a man's hand enjoying playing with a cock. I take the point that if some one states they are tea total that means they don't ever drink alcohol. But it doesn't follow that someone who drinks 'sometimes' is an alcoholic. An alcoholic is defined as a person who drinks on a regular basis, they may drink very little but will become distraught if they don't get their fix. In that context I'm neither an alcoholic or bisexual, but I do like a drink from time to time, I find it takes away the sometimes bitter taste of spunk | |||
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" Although you appear to believe that any piece of terminology can have a " as I please definition " it cannot. Words have actual meanings and if they didn't a society wouldn't function as we wouldn't know what each other meant. If you take something that doesn't belong to you without the owners permission it is indeed theft. If you don't own a dictionary try looking up the meaning of theft online now as it means what it says not what you feel it should mean Although not overly wanting to stir the pot, I've enjoyed the debate, but you state that society wouldn't function I we didn't understand each others meanings. I was always taught at school that language is an ever evolving thing? These grey areas that people feel about the definition of bi/gay/straight fit into this evolution of language don't they? My personal view on the OP's post is that it is indeed bi guys or at least bi curious (whatever that means) playing the odds and contacting with the hopes they may be doing the same. I do believe language evolves as society needs it to though and that this doesn't cause everyday life to suddenly cease to function with chaos ensuing because no one knows what's going on anymore?" | |||
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