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"Just been having this very same conversation earlier. Of course there are many people who are 100% straight and many 100% gay. No gray areas. And no there is no reason for promoting the idea that everyone should experiment with a same sex experience. I don’t need to try it to know that it’s not for me. The reason is of course that I’m 100% straight. " I agree not for me 100% straight | |||
"Just our opinion but are any of us out there truly 100% straight ?gay? Or somewere in between ? . We just think it’s SEX and it’s not really what ‘bits’ they have down below that’s the deciding factor it’s if your in the mood , feels right, feels good, there’s an attraction , and more importantly if you have the nerve to too it , maybe we should all try a same sex experience ? Would love to hear your views on this " A writhing amalgamation of flesh sucking,licking fucking . The hands and mouths everywhere. Giving over to the pleasure and falling It's glorious Let go of egos or reservations it is the highest form of euphoria one can have with our short time here. | |||
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"I think younger generations will be free to explore and be their true selves Older generations have years of societal conditioning and prejudice to overcome.... Don't forget it was illegal to be a 'homosexual' until the late 60's" So you had to be nearly 70 to legally suck another guys cock ? | |||
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"I think younger generations will be free to explore and be their true selves Older generations have years of societal conditioning and prejudice to overcome.... Don't forget it was illegal to be a 'homosexual' until the late 60's So you had to be nearly 70 to legally suck another guys cock ?" If you were born in 1900, then yes | |||
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"I recognise from long experience of fab that claims to be comfortably 100% straight are treated by many bi and gay guys with considerable scepticism. So I’m not expecting to change their minds. The power of fantasy and wishful thinking grips them too strongly. But the reality is that 6 pints of lager will not even slightly change this. Nor, as has been said in similar threads, are people like me repressed and hiding in the closet. It’s actually very simple and uncomplicated. People like me are straight. End of." fair enough , too shy ? | |||
"I recognise from long experience of fab that claims to be comfortably 100% straight are treated by many bi and gay guys with considerable scepticism. So I’m not expecting to change their minds. The power of fantasy and wishful thinking grips them too strongly. But the reality is that 6 pints of lager will not even slightly change this. Nor, as has been said in similar threads, are people like me repressed and hiding in the closet. It’s actually very simple and uncomplicated. People like me are straight. End of. fair enough , too shy ? " Shy? lol I don’t think anyone who looks at our profile would recognise that description. | |||
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"Weirdly, this now has become a question only asked of straight people with the implication being, you are too repressed, if only you tried it you would love it. No one (these days anyway) suggests to gay people they should just relax and try the opposite sex as they don’t know what they are missing. The gay men we know, most of whom have a lot more sex that most swingers, are in absolutely no doubt of their sexuality. Lesbian friends too. " A valid point. Approaching a lesbian with the comment that she obviously hasn’t experienced a good cock would rightly be regarded as highly offensive. | |||
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" People like me are straight. End of. fair enough , too shy ? " It's comments like this that steer straight people away from bi folk who claim they can "play straight" as there always seems to be an agenda and probably why bi folk say straight on their profiles. If only everyone was just allowed to be who they are. | |||
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"The implications of this opinion held by many gay or bi men is considerable. Since so many appear to sincerely hold to the belief that all men are at least slightly bi then they won’t necessarily feel that they need to accept boundaries. So as a couple where the male is straight why would we consider the inviting a bi guy to join us? Can we have any confidence that they will not take liberties? In our case we simply don’t extend them an invite and I’m sure many other similar couples feel the same. 💯 we had a discussion last night after some messages we’ve received and both agreed we’re not interested in meeting anyone who’s bi or bi curious they seem to believe because they are everyone should be " | |||
"The implications of this opinion held by many gay or bi men is considerable. Since so many appear to sincerely hold to the belief that all men are at least slightly bi then they won’t necessarily feel that they need to accept boundaries. So as a couple where the male is straight why would we consider the inviting a bi guy to join us? Can we have any confidence that they will not take liberties? In our case we simply don’t extend them an invite and I’m sure many other similar couples feel the same. " Yes, I think you are right, and I can understand the viewpoint.... But I am sure most of us bi guys like everyone, are looking for mutual desire in meets. For myself, I wouldn't ever want what is not enjoyed by my partner/s too... Variety is the spice of life, so thankfully lots of fabbers out there for each of us | |||
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Some of us are straight. Know we're straight. Have no desire to be otherwise.
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"The implications of this opinion held by many gay or bi men is considerable. Since so many appear to sincerely hold to the belief that all men are at least slightly bi then they won’t necessarily feel that they need to accept boundaries. So as a couple where the male is straight why would we consider the inviting a bi guy to join us? Can we have any confidence that they will not take liberties? In our case we simply don’t extend them an invite and I’m sure many other similar couples feel the same. " I'm our experience bi men are far less likely to take liberties than bi women. We'd rather meet couples with a bi guy who said he was willing to play straight than a bi woman. | |||
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"The implications of this opinion held by many gay or bi men is considerable. Since so many appear to sincerely hold to the belief that all men are at least slightly bi then they won’t necessarily feel that they need to accept boundaries. So as a couple where the male is straight why would we consider the inviting a bi guy to join us? Can we have any confidence that they will not take liberties? In our case we simply don’t extend them an invite and I’m sure many other similar couples feel the same. I'm our experience bi men are far less likely to take liberties than bi women. We'd rather meet couples with a bi guy who said he was willing to play straight than a bi woman. " I've had 'bi curious' on my profile since day one. I can count on one hand the number of same sex interactions I've had in my 17 years here, all of which occurred with couples and none of which involved anything to do with arses. 99% of my sexual experiences in my life have been straight, but it would be disingenuous to have that on my profile. Can I play straight whilst listed as curious? Obviously. If it excludes me from interesting some people that's all good. The two notions that everyone is a little bit bi and that bi people can't play straight both amuse me. Of course some are 100% straight and equally bi people are more than capable of just playing with the opposite sex. Just let people be who they are and do as they wish. 🤷♂️ | |||
"I don’t necessarily consider people who “Go with the flow” and “get carried away in the heat of the moment” as bi. They can just be enjoying the act without being attracted to the person" There we go. This summarises exactly the gulf of understanding between many bi guys and those of us who are straight. This going with the flow attitude tells me that they regard other people’s boundaries as pretty much irrelevant when weighed against their desires. Whether it’s some pre planned move or done on impulse is totally irrelevant. It is bi. This confirms once again that we can’t trust bi guys to respect boundaries. | |||
"I don’t necessarily consider people who “Go with the flow” and “get carried away in the heat of the moment” as bi. They can just be enjoying the act without being attracted to the person There we go. This summarises exactly the gulf of understanding between many bi guys and those of us who are straight. This going with the flow attitude tells me that they regard other people’s boundaries as pretty much irrelevant when weighed against their desires. Whether it’s some pre planned move or done on impulse is totally irrelevant. It is bi. This confirms once again that we can’t trust bi guys to respect boundaries. " Wow just go ahead and completely twist what I said to suit your own agenda. Seems like you’ve had a bad experience with a bi guy. In that case you’re perfectly entitled to distrust that guy. But I wasn’t even talking about bi guys | |||
"I don’t necessarily consider people who “Go with the flow” and “get carried away in the heat of the moment” as bi. They can just be enjoying the act without being attracted to the person There we go. This summarises exactly the gulf of understanding between many bi guys and those of us who are straight. This going with the flow attitude tells me that they regard other people’s boundaries as pretty much irrelevant when weighed against their desires. Whether it’s some pre planned move or done on impulse is totally irrelevant. It is bi. This confirms once again that we can’t trust bi guys to respect boundaries. " I'm not sure that was how the statement was intended. (Could be wrong of course) Someone straight could be meeting a bi couple and choose to 'go with the flow' of their own accord. The idea that bi/curious people don't respect boundaries is wrong. 'People' sometimes do t respect boundaries. Straight, bi or gay. It's not down to sexuality. 🤷♂️ At clubs I've seen far more issues with straight guys touching women without permission than I ve ever seen another man touch a guy without consent. | |||
"100% straight. Makes me laugh how someone is straight....but likes sucking on a dick occasionally.....but not attracted to men lol. Be bi and be happy. " Well said!!! | |||
"I don’t necessarily consider people who “Go with the flow” and “get carried away in the heat of the moment” as bi. They can just be enjoying the act without being attracted to the person There we go. This summarises exactly the gulf of understanding between many bi guys and those of us who are straight. This going with the flow attitude tells me that they regard other people’s boundaries as pretty much irrelevant when weighed against their desires. Whether it’s some pre planned move or done on impulse is totally irrelevant. It is bi. This confirms once again that we can’t trust bi guys to respect boundaries. I'm not sure that was how the statement was intended. (Could be wrong of course) Someone straight could be meeting a bi couple and choose to 'go with the flow' of their own accord. The idea that bi/curious people don't respect boundaries is wrong. 'People' sometimes do t respect boundaries. Straight, bi or gay. It's not down to sexuality. 🤷♂️ At clubs I've seen far more issues with straight guys touching women without permission than I ve ever seen another man touch a guy without consent. " Yes this ^^^ | |||
"100% straight. Makes me laugh how someone is straight....but likes sucking on a dick occasionally.....but not attracted to men lol. Be bi and be happy. Well said!!!" Just because you can’t get your heads around it doesn’t mean it can’t happen | |||
"I don’t necessarily consider people who “Go with the flow” and “get carried away in the heat of the moment” as bi. They can just be enjoying the act without being attracted to the person There we go. This summarises exactly the gulf of understanding between many bi guys and those of us who are straight. This going with the flow attitude tells me that they regard other people’s boundaries as pretty much irrelevant when weighed against their desires. Whether it’s some pre planned move or done on impulse is totally irrelevant. It is bi. This confirms once again that we can’t trust bi guys to respect boundaries. I'm not sure that was how the statement was intended. (Could be wrong of course) Someone straight could be meeting a bi couple and choose to 'go with the flow' of their own accord. The idea that bi/curious people don't respect boundaries is wrong. 'People' sometimes do t respect boundaries. Straight, bi or gay. It's not down to sexuality. 🤷♂️ At clubs I've seen far more issues with straight guys touching women without permission than I ve ever seen another man touch a guy without consent. " The reality is many bi and gay guys do not respect boundaries. That is a sound opinion shared by many straight men who get propositioned on this site. In large part this is fuelled by the this ridiculous belief that all men are at least slightly bi. So why not chance your luck? It would be entirely unfair to say that ALL bi/gay guys disrespect boundaries but the minority is significant enough to be encountered regularly. Reading back through the messages on this thread alone are proof that our concerns have some foundation in reality. Just do a search to see the numbers of bi/gay specifically advertising for straight guys if further proof is needed! It’s a pity that the many respectful bi and gay guys are tarred unfairly but that’s life unfortunately. There is no way we can separate the two. As for straight guys touching in clubs you have a valid point but that’s for another thread. It’s not particularly relevant for this topic. | |||
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"I don’t necessarily consider people who “Go with the flow” and “get carried away in the heat of the moment” as bi. They can just be enjoying the act without being attracted to the person There we go. This summarises exactly the gulf of understanding between many bi guys and those of us who are straight. This going with the flow attitude tells me that they regard other people’s boundaries as pretty much irrelevant when weighed against their desires. Whether it’s some pre planned move or done on impulse is totally irrelevant. It is bi. This confirms once again that we can’t trust bi guys to respect boundaries. I'm not sure that was how the statement was intended. (Could be wrong of course) Someone straight could be meeting a bi couple and choose to 'go with the flow' of their own accord. The idea that bi/curious people don't respect boundaries is wrong. 'People' sometimes do t respect boundaries. Straight, bi or gay. It's not down to sexuality. 🤷♂️ At clubs I've seen far more issues with straight guys touching women without permission than I ve ever seen another man touch a guy without consent. The reality is many bi and gay guys do not respect boundaries. That is a sound opinion shared by many straight men who get propositioned on this site. In large part this is fuelled by the this ridiculous belief that all men are at least slightly bi. So why not chance your luck? It would be entirely unfair to say that ALL bi/gay guys disrespect boundaries but the minority is significant enough to be encountered regularly. Reading back through the messages on this thread alone are proof that our concerns have some foundation in reality. Just do a search to see the numbers of bi/gay specifically advertising for straight guys if further proof is needed! It’s a pity that the many respectful bi and gay guys are tarred unfairly but that’s life unfortunately. There is no way we can separate the two. As for straight guys touching in clubs you have a valid point but that’s for another thread. It’s not particularly relevant for this topic." I'll address two points separately. The reality is many 'people' don't respect boundaries. Sexuality doesn't determine whether someone will be respectful of boundaries or not. There'll be a confirmation bias because you've experienced negative behaviour from some men who were bi. The actions of some don not reflect all. As a straight guy would you consider all other straight guys a risk because some touch women without consent? I doubt it. As for the notion of tarring all with the same brush? That will always be a pointless exercise for those that do it. We're all individuals. All responsible for our own behaviour and actions. The belief that all people of any given characteristic (gender, age, sexuality, race etc) are the same and will behave the same way tells more about the person holding that view than it does about anyone else. Treat people as individuals and it's very easy to separate the good from the bad. 🤷♂️ | |||
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"100% straight. Makes me laugh how someone is straight....but likes sucking on a dick occasionally.....but not attracted to men lol. Be bi and be happy. Well said!!! Just because you can’t get your heads around it doesn’t mean it can’t happen " It does though. A heterosexual man doesn't have a dick in his mouth. End of. | |||
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"Weirdly, this now has become a question only asked of straight people with the implication being, you are too repressed, if only you tried it you would love it. No one (these days anyway) suggests to gay people they should just relax and try the opposite sex as they don’t know what they are missing. The gay men we know, most of whom have a lot more sex that most swingers, are in absolutely no doubt of their sexuality. Lesbian friends too. " I agree in a way with this. I've seen bi couples on threads suggest straight people are boring etc and they wouldn't meet them. We can't help that we're straight anymore than they can help being bisexual. I don't like others assuming they know more about me than I do too, or presuming all women here are like spaghetti. | |||
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"Whats the extremes of spectrum? Do you think being comfortable around or close to another man's dick/balls/ass counts as being gay? I'd say I'm 100% straight. I'm always around naked men in the changing room or sauna at the gym. I do Jiu Jitsu, so basically dry hump other sweaty men for an hour and a half. I have no sexual desire or attraction to them. Never wanted a dick in me or to put mine in another man but I'm totally comfortable around naked gay/bi men aslong as they can respect my preferences. Are you counting 100% straight as terrified to be around other men? " Terrified. No. lol As a sportsman I have seen no end of men naked in gyms but I take exception to a naked guy wanting to suck me whilst insisting he knows that I “really, really want it” I’ve seen plenty of shee*p in fields but don’t struggle with an urge to fuck them either | |||
"I take exception to a naked guy wanting to suck me whilst insisting he knows that I “really, really want it”" Yeah, I know. Hence.. " I'm totally comfortable around naked gay/bi men aslong as they can respect my preferences. " | |||
"Guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one , hand on heart can you be 100% sure ? You may be in a 3 sum and you find yourself inches from a nicely shaved pussy and your so turned on yourself in the moment and your asked to taste it and bring her to orgasm , are you turning away in disgust at the sight in front of you ? All 3 of you are close to orgasm at this point and the moment couldn’t me more hornier ? ( applies to man and woman btw " Yes we would both turn away if same sex as we are always clear about our sexuality so any boundary crossing immediately stops play. | |||
"Guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one , hand on heart can you be 100% sure ? You may be in a 3 sum and you find yourself inches from a nicely shaved pussy and your so turned on yourself in the moment and your asked to taste it and bring her to orgasm , are you turning away in disgust at the sight in front of you ? All 3 of you are close to orgasm at this point and the moment couldn’t me more hornier ? ( applies to man and woman btw Yes we would both turn away if same sex as we are always clear about our sexuality so any boundary crossing immediately stops play." I’m one not for labels but agree here as boundaries get set before the meet and if crossed that’s a no no | |||
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"Just our opinion but are any of us out there truly 100% straight ?gay? Or somewere in between ? . We just think it’s SEX and it’s not really what ‘bits’ they have down below that’s the deciding factor it’s if your in the mood , feels right, feels good, there’s an attraction , and more importantly if you have the nerve to too it , maybe we should all try a same sex experience ? Would love to hear your views on this " Yes. Some people are truly 100% straight or gay. Everyone has different desires, attractions, sexual predilections etc. You have your views on attraction and sex, which is fine for you. Others feel differently and have different attractions and desires. That’s fine for them. One of the things that annoys me as a bi man is people not respecting my sexual orientation or assuming that I’m up for anything because I’m bi. I know from talking to them that fully straight or fully gay people get pissed off at people trying to convince them they’re closeted bi or that they are somehow missing out. Can we not all just respect each other’s orientation and get along? | |||
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"I've said often on here that straight people are the only demographic on fab who have to constantly justify their sexual preference. There are a lot of people who seem to think that just because they are bicurious or bisexual that those of us who are secure in being straight are really just afraid of exploring or are narrowminded. If we claim that we are indeed straight it is usually responded to with a snide yeah whatever attitude. Couples are renowned for not respecting a straight woman and think it's acceptable to pressurise them into playing bi. My honest opinion on the whole thing at this stage is that anyone claiming we should all try a same sex experience should focus on their own inadequacies and stop trying to peddle this bs over and over. How long would a thread last if someone started challenging whether others were really bi or if they were just pretending for the sake of it? " 💯 accurate | |||
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"We are both 100% straight I think hubby sometimes wishes I wasn't but it is what it is haha! And hubby is also 100% straight. Straight swaps only in our household "Lots of men think their wives should be bi! | |||
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"Yeah, I can say I'm 100% straight. I can acknowledge a handsome or good looking man, but I feel no attraction, sexual or otherwise, towards them. " THIS !!!! People need to understand that there are genuinely straight people on here and nothing will change that. I will not meet bi people either because of comments above where they seem to assume I will ‘try bi’ in the heat of the moment. Now I will wait for the obligatory ‘you protest too much’ comment… | |||
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"Did it cause you any distress me replying to you directly ? The thread is about are people really 100%. Straight , your question was going off topic , hence that’s why I messaged you privately , hope this clears everything up for you ?" I thought it was very on topic as it contradicts a lot of what you are saying here | |||
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"100 percent straight here, 1 billion percent in fact" Are you sure? Are you really, really, really sure? I only ask because apparently it’s only straight people who are expected to justify themselves. So go on then are you sure | |||
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"Weirdly, this now has become a question only asked of straight people with the implication being, you are too repressed, if only you tried it you would love it. No one (these days anyway) suggests to gay people they should just relax and try the opposite sex as they don’t know what they are missing. The gay men we know, most of whom have a lot more sex that most swingers, are in absolutely no doubt of their sexuality. Lesbian friends too. " I know a few lads who were always gay and now in their 40s want to try sex with a woman for the first time. And yes I have previously said to them that they should try it. One ended up having a 3some with me and a woman at a bi event. It was his first pussy and he was 40. | |||
" “so because she has played/ experimented with the same sex she can now not be classed as straight ? " Bingo. It's called bi-curious, there's an option for it on here, y'know, below the straight one. | |||
"It always amazes us that so many bi guys are incapable of comprehending that there are plenty of totally straight guys for whom the thought of any sexual contact with another man is both a turn off and, quite frankly, repulsive. As a couple we were initially happy to play with bi guys as long as they were happy to play completely straight. Despite promises and assurances so many made totally inappropriate grabs for B's cock that we now play safe and avoid bi men altogether. " Probably because they were confused as to why a straight couple would invite a bi guy to play. I've had it where a straight couple invited me to play knowing I'm bi and whilst pleasuring his wife orally with her on top, suddenly my cock was getting sucked and it most definitely wasn't her. He was only supposed to be watching and told me 100% straight Also another time with a different couple I had a hand stroking my arse which wasn't hers. In your case, i'm not saying they shouldn't have touched the male. If confused they should wait for initiation or words but like I said I got no warning in my cases so it can work both ways. | |||
"It always amazes us that so many bi guys are incapable of comprehending that there are plenty of totally straight guys for whom the thought of any sexual contact with another man is both a turn off and, quite frankly, repulsive. As a couple we were initially happy to play with bi guys as long as they were happy to play completely straight. Despite promises and assurances so many made totally inappropriate grabs for B's cock that we now play safe and avoid bi men altogether. " We have the similar experiences so now they are not invited. They simply cannot understand that a sudden pounce will never, ever be welcomed. However the deep hold this delusion has over many bi guys cannot be overcome. This conversation has gone on for many years on fab and has made no difference whatsoever. Many guys will still continue to claim that a blow job from another guy is simply a blow job and straight guys are just weird for failing to comprehend this. The power of wishful thinking and fantasy over them means the gulf of understanding will remain totally unbridgeable. | |||
"I sigh every time I hear it suggested that nobody is 100% straight and we should all try same sex at least once. The worst for this are *some* bi women who think if only I'm exposed to their undoubted sexual skills I'll immediately realise the error of my ways. .
Some of us are straight. Know we're straight. Have no desire to be otherwise.
Thanks"Yep 100% same of those on the other side of the coin too. It's about respect and boundaries 👏 | |||
