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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"We will sometimes do stuff other than full penetration, might be tired after work or something and just need a release, we'd still class it as sex I think"
yes you right it's still part bof love makeing.
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question."
Potato potahto. Some people/cultures/laws/religions will consider it sex, some won't.
The definition of "sex" is a very blurry one and moves around all the time.
What do YOU consider sex? |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
north Wales and Bulgaria. |
"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
Potato potahto. Some people/cultures/laws/religions will consider it sex, some won't.
The definition of "sex" is a very blurry one and moves around all the time.
What do YOU consider sex?"
ok can of worms time if someone shook my hand I wouldn't count that as a sexual activity but if someone was to shake what regarded as a sexual organ in this case the penis yes I would call it a sexual act. |
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question."
Depends on the situation, if their wife or husband doesn’t know about it, yeah it’s cheating… |
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
Depends on the situation, if their wife or husband doesn’t know about it, yeah it’s cheating…"
The word sex would definitely be in the title, I would class it as sexual contact not sexual intercourse |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"If a lady or a guy Gives you a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
Depends on the situation, if their wife or husband doesn’t know about it, yeah it’s cheating…"
what if it's the husband and wife ? |
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The lines for what counts as sex vary wildly between people.
As someone who also enjoys playing with non-penis people I don't feel quite right with the idea that PiV is the only actual thing that counts as sex.
A quick handjob isn't sex to me. But a few languorous hours of mutual masturbation and playfulness that includes nothing more technically sexual than a handjob, that is sex to me.
In terms of naughty, that word only comes into it when it involves cheating or lying 💜 |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"The lines for what counts as sex vary wildly between people.
As someone who also enjoys playing with non-penis people I don't feel quite right with the idea that PiV is the only actual thing that counts as sex.
A quick handjob isn't sex to me. But a few languorous hours of mutual masturbation and playfulness that includes nothing more technically sexual than a handjob, that is sex to me.
In terms of naughty, that word only comes into it when it involves cheating or lying 💜"
I'm didn't know there vwas a time limit on a hand job lol some people can't don't last long dose that mean the don't have sex ?
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"I'm didn't know there vwas a time limit on a hand job lol some people can't don't last long dose that mean the don't have sex ?
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A quick hand job is not sex to me. It might count as such to someone else. |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"I'm didn't know there vwas a time limit on a hand job lol some people can't don't last long dose that mean the don't have sex ?
A quick hand job is not sex to me. It might count as such to someone else."
what if the guy has premature cuming problems ? |
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"Sex is when at least one pelvis is being thrust into something. If you don't thrust it isn't sex 😎what ? So if he moves his hips it is if he doesn't it isn't ?"
You got it. If you're fucking the hand, it's sex. If the hand is doing the work it's just heavy petting.
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"I'm didn't know there vwas a time limit on a hand job lol some people can't don't last long dose that mean the don't have sex ?
A quick hand job is not sex to me. It might count as such to someone else. what if the guy has premature cuming problems ?"
Then there's other things that can be done to make it an actually sexual experience. I play with plenty of nonpenis people. An ejaculation doesn't mean the job is done. |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"I'm didn't know there vwas a time limit on a hand job lol some people can't don't last long dose that mean the don't have sex ?
A quick hand job is not sex to me. It might count as such to someone else. what if the guy has premature cuming problems ?
Then there's other things that can be done to make it an actually sexual experience. I play with plenty of nonpenis people. An ejaculation doesn't mean the job is done."
but the question was about a hand job not other forms of pleasure. |
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"I'm didn't know there vwas a time limit on a hand job lol some people can't don't last long dose that mean the don't have sex ?
A quick hand job is not sex to me. It might count as such to someone else. what if the guy has premature cuming problems ?
Then there's other things that can be done to make it an actually sexual experience. I play with plenty of nonpenis people. An ejaculation doesn't mean the job is done. but the question was about a hand job not other forms of pleasure."
And, as I said, just a quick hand job isn't sex to me.
But the the way the question was phrased made it look more like a query on cheating, which comes down to much more than one person's definition of sex. |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"I'm didn't know there vwas a time limit on a hand job lol some people can't don't last long dose that mean the don't have sex ?
A quick hand job is not sex to me. It might count as such to someone else. what if the guy has premature cuming problems ?
Then there's other things that can be done to make it an actually sexual experience. I play with plenty of nonpenis people. An ejaculation doesn't mean the job is done. but the question was about a hand job not other forms of pleasure.
And, as I said, just a quick hand job isn't sex to me.
But the the way the question was phrased made it look more like a query on cheating, which comes down to much more than one person's definition of sex."
where did it say anything about cheating in the question ? |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"I'm didn't know there vwas a time limit on a hand job lol some people can't don't last long dose that mean the don't have sex ?
A quick hand job is not sex to me. It might count as such to someone else. what if the guy has premature cuming problems ?
Then there's other things that can be done to make it an actually sexual experience. I play with plenty of nonpenis people. An ejaculation doesn't mean the job is done. but the question was about a hand job not other forms of pleasure.
And, as I said, just a quick hand job isn't sex to me.
But the the way the question was phrased made it look more like a query on cheating, which comes down to much more than one person's definition of sex. where did it say anything about cheating in the question ? In fact it clearly says no I haven't been naughty."
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"where did it say anything about cheating in the question ?"
It didn't. It simply seemed to imply it. Probably the use of naughty. It's not particularly relevant if that's not what you're asking about. |
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If you have intentional contact that's sexually stimulating, then it's a form of sex. Th we re doesn't need to be sexual attraction to the other(s) nor penetration of an orifice for sexual engagement.
Don't stress things, people enjoy what they have and may or may not repeat it |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"where did it say anything about cheating in the question ?
It didn't. It simply seemed to imply it. Probably the use of naughty. It's not particularly relevant if that's not what you're asking about."
I put it at the end of the question to let people know the I haven't been naughty and that I'm not feeling guilty about something I haven't done I was hoping I had made that clear. |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"If a women cums by a person manually stimulating her then would that be considered as sex?
If the answer to this is yes then surely the answer to a handjob should be yes too."
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By *ythenMan 6 days ago
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question."
A woman pleasuring a man in this way or vicsa versa a man pleasuring a woman with hand stimulation I’d say would be a sexual act … as opposed to describing it as having sex |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
north Wales and Bulgaria. |
"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
What's YOUR definition of "sex"? It's extremely subjective."
can of worms time if someone shook my hand I wouldn't count that as a sexual activity but if someone was to shake what regarded as a sexual organ in this case the penis yes I would call it a sexual act. |
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
What's YOUR definition of "sex"? It's extremely subjective. can of worms time if someone shook my hand I wouldn't count that as a sexual activity but if someone was to shake what regarded as a sexual organ in this case the penis yes I would call it a sexual act."
According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜 |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
north Wales and Bulgaria. |
"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
What's YOUR definition of "sex"? It's extremely subjective. can of worms time if someone shook my hand I wouldn't count that as a sexual activity but if someone was to shake what regarded as a sexual organ in this case the penis yes I would call it a sexual act.
According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜"
not really as it's not a sexual act between 2 concenting adults not a possible life saving act . |
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"According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜
not really as it's not a sexual act between 2 concenting adults not a possible life saving act ."
Regular ejaculation is a life-saving act. By that logic, if you ejaculate, is it no longer sex? 🤔 |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜
not really as it's not a sexual act between 2 concenting adults not a possible life saving act .
Regular ejaculation is a life-saving act. By that logic, if you ejaculate, is it no longer sex? 🤔"
who said that if a doctor is feeling for a possible problem how can you think it's a sexual activity |
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
What's YOUR definition of "sex"? It's extremely subjective. can of worms time if someone shook my hand I wouldn't count that as a sexual activity but if someone was to shake what regarded as a sexual organ in this case the penis yes I would call it a sexual act.
According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜not really as it's not a sexual act between 2 concenting adults not a possible life saving act ."
There you go then. My point being, YOU draw the line. YOU choose whether it counts or not, for you. 😉
Disclaimer: the law might disagree with individual definitions on the subject, but that's an entire different can of worms. |
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By *ythenMan 6 days ago
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
What's YOUR definition of "sex"? It's extremely subjective. can of worms time if someone shook my hand I wouldn't count that as a sexual activity but if someone was to shake what regarded as a sexual organ in this case the penis yes I would call it a sexual act.
According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜"
Ah now there’s a big difference in a medical examination and a woman bringing a man to orgasm or a man doing the same for a lady by means of stimulation of the penis or the vagina or clit … |
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"According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜
not really as it's not a sexual act between 2 concenting adults not a possible life saving act .
Regular ejaculation is a life-saving act. By that logic, if you ejaculate, is it no longer sex? 🤔who said that if a doctor is feeling for a possible problem how can you think it's a sexual activity "
Medical kinks are pretty common. Don't be kink shaming now 💜 |
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
What's YOUR definition of "sex"? It's extremely subjective. can of worms time if someone shook my hand I wouldn't count that as a sexual activity but if someone was to shake what regarded as a sexual organ in this case the penis yes I would call it a sexual act.
According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜
Ah now there’s a big difference in a medical examination and a woman bringing a man to orgasm or a man doing the same for a lady by means of stimulation of the penis or the vagina or clit … "
Does that mean an orgasm is required for it to count as sex for you? |
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"We will sometimes do stuff other than full penetration, might be tired after work or something and just need a release, we'd still class it as sex I thinkyes you right it's still part bof love makeing."
As the late Tina Turner once said; "What's love gotta do with it"...
For the record, it can be very satisfying..I think of it as adolescent stuff but plenty of us oldies still go there lol |
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I had a FWB, a few years ago, she could climax from me licking and sucking her fingers and toes.
No genitals involved whatsoever. Is it sex?
PS - I don't care for labels and semantics, it was hot as fuck and that's all it matters to me.
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By *ythenMan 6 days ago
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"According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜
not really as it's not a sexual act between 2 concenting adults not a possible life saving act .
Regular ejaculation is a life-saving act. By that logic, if you ejaculate, is it no longer sex? 🤔who said that if a doctor is feeling for a possible problem how can you think it's a sexual activity
Medical kinks are pretty common. Don't be kink shaming now 💜"
And m definitely not shaming … can’t beat a nurse uniform for some fun … is there an equivalent outfit for a guy to dress in for a lady for the medical kink play |
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By *ythenMan 6 days ago
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
What's YOUR definition of "sex"? It's extremely subjective. can of worms time if someone shook my hand I wouldn't count that as a sexual activity but if someone was to shake what regarded as a sexual organ in this case the penis yes I would call it a sexual act.
According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜
Ah now there’s a big difference in a medical examination and a woman bringing a man to orgasm or a man doing the same for a lady by means of stimulation of the penis or the vagina or clit …
Does that mean an orgasm is required for it to count as sex for you?"
Yes I suppose it does when you put it like that |
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
What's YOUR definition of "sex"? It's extremely subjective. can of worms time if someone shook my hand I wouldn't count that as a sexual activity but if someone was to shake what regarded as a sexual organ in this case the penis yes I would call it a sexual act.
According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜
Ah now there’s a big difference in a medical examination and a woman bringing a man to orgasm or a man doing the same for a lady by means of stimulation of the penis or the vagina or clit …
Does that mean an orgasm is required for it to count as sex for you?
Yes I suppose it does when you put it like that "
What if you accidentally cum during the examination?
Genitals? Yes
Orgasm? Yes
Consent? No |
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"Does that mean an orgasm is required for it to count as sex for you?
Yes I suppose it does when you put it like that
What if you accidentally cum during the examination?
Genitals? Yes
Orgasm? Yes
Consent? No"
Oh if you need consent for it to count that's a whole different argument coming 😅 |
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"Does that mean an orgasm is required for it to count as sex for you?
Yes I suppose it does when you put it like that
What if you accidentally cum during the examination?
Genitals? Yes
Orgasm? Yes
Consent? No
Oh if you need consent for it to count that's a whole different argument coming 😅"
Sorry, silly me. I forgot to wear my wifebeater today. |
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By *ythenMan 6 days ago
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question.
What's YOUR definition of "sex"? It's extremely subjective. can of worms time if someone shook my hand I wouldn't count that as a sexual activity but if someone was to shake what regarded as a sexual organ in this case the penis yes I would call it a sexual act.
According to that logic, a doctor fondling your balls to check for lumps is a sexual act... 🥜
Ah now there’s a big difference in a medical examination and a woman bringing a man to orgasm or a man doing the same for a lady by means of stimulation of the penis or the vagina or clit …
Does that mean an orgasm is required for it to count as sex for you?
Yes I suppose it does when you put it like that
What if you accidentally cum during the examination?
Genitals? Yes
Orgasm? Yes
Consent? No"
I’d be delighted… |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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It was an open and honest question and everyone is entitled to there point of view which of course is fine.
But next someone be asking next if I need a sperm test and I do it on the NHS in cubicle with a copy of penthouses it's a wank but if I go private and have a person of my choice is it now a sexual act?
This is a joke by the way. |
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"If a lady or a guy Gus yo a hand job is it still counted as sex ?
Ps no I haven't been naughty lol just a genuine question."
I define sex as any form of sexual contact - and that can include mental contact, such as sexting, providing erotica or JOI where you don't actually touch the other person. |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"Yippee I'm having sex tonight.....
Such a shame it's with my own hands. But I'm definitely going to enjoy it 😊 "
if you can't stay on topic please start your on post about being a wanker . |
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By *ocktower OP Man 6 days ago
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"I wouldnt class it as sex but im certain if you did it behind your wifes back she certainly would class it as sex 😂"
as the op it clearly says it's not about doing anything about doing it behind anyone's back.
Please keep on topic. |
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"Sex is when at least one pelvis is being thrust into something. If you don't thrust it isn't sex 😎
So soaking isn’t sex?"
No, it only counts if you thrust. Otherwise it's just hanging out with your friend's ovaries. Completely chaste, and honestly just a nice way to spend time with your friend ♥️ |
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"I would describe it as a sex act but not sex. We all remember Bill Clinton trying to clam that oral sex was not sex."
Bill didn't have sexual relations with a woman who didn't clean a dress for some years, if ever. The charge was relations, plural and with some romantic attachment.
A kiss is just a kiss, a nosh is just a nosh.
The Republicans couldn't prove the relations and so Bill waltzed around them and onto history as a great president. I mean, look what came next! |
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I personally think it is sex or rather a sexual act between each other if we only class penetration as sex then we miss out on so much as I find all the foreplay teasing touching and exploring for want of better explanation the most fun part of sex but I guess all view it different x |
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By *ocktower OP Man 5 days ago
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"I personally think it is sex or rather a sexual act between each other if we only class penetration as sex then we miss out on so much as I find all the foreplay teasing touching and exploring for want of better explanation the most fun part of sex but I guess all view it different x"
I agree if the people are touching each other in a sexual exciting way yes it's sex and I think most of us really know the difference between that and a hand shake. |
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