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By *yeSure OP Man 29 weeks ago
Glasgow |
Who've you fucked, that (some) people will say you shouldn't have?
Or maybe you haven't done yet but would like to!
Someone elses husband, wife, mother / father in law, sister, brother....
All in the name of fun, start sharing the details
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By *earenewCouple 29 weeks ago
Fareham/Portsmouth |
A few years ago when i was around 18/19, i got fucked by my dads friend who was in his 50’s at the time |
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By *veenBeeTV/TS 29 weeks ago
Winchester |
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Had a threesome with exes parents and wife swapped with a friend's parents. |
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By *ax6593Man 29 weeks ago
tyneside |
Exactly wife’s find and work colleague wow  |
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Fucked my ex wife after she remarried. |
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I was 18 and fucked my childhood best friend's mom after his parents got divorced, long story short, they were going through a nasty divorce, my best mate went through the ringer and ended up going to a mental asylum for three months, his sister couldn't deal with anything so she asked me to help her mom move and she went off to stay at friends.
I didn't really think anything of it, just kinda went to help her out, moved a bunch of things for her over the course of two weeks just helping her pack and stuff, when we finished packing she had a near mental breakdown so I just kinda comforted her, she asked me to get wine, I did and one thing lead to another.
Honestly postnut clarity, felt like it was not the right move at all, yeah we got close over two weeks and yeah I helped comfort her but we both kinda said yep never again.
She did flirt we me every now and then after that but I just felt awkward everytime |
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A few of my friends dads, friends brothers, a few women from various work places. |
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Fucked my best mates sister a few years back and he still don't know. |
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By *wointo1Couple (MM) 29 weeks ago
Manchester |
I used to fuck my neighbour in her garden shed sometimes. Once her husband was in the house.
I called around to borrow the strimmer! |
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My ex gfs mum after we had spilt |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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Best friends ex.. twice lol |
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My mother in law mates wife mates sister |
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My friend with benefits 18 years old daughter |
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Whose daughter |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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I’d get banned for answering this! ???? |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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"I’d get banned for answering this! ????"
really?
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By *ykinkyCouple 29 weeks ago
cleethorpes |
Anna fucked her dad's best friend after his 60th birthday party he was 63 and she was 18 and i was fucking a married woman and ended up sleeping with her daughter |
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My ex's boss when I was in my 20s. Xxxx |
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By *im28Man 29 weeks ago
loughborough |
My friends husband in the garage whilst she was inside hosting the party |
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By *illxxMan 29 weeks ago
motherwell |
My ex bosses wife. Just happened to be on holiday at the time and she was on a hen weekend. What happens on holiday stays on holiday |
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Who would you want to shag that you know you shouldn’t? |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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Me and a mate used to fuck my mum's friend  |
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The mother of my daughters ex.
It happened when I was returning some of his stuff after they separated. |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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Sis in law and neighbours daughter |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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mates girlfriend whilst he was working away travelled all the way up to Glasgow to fuck her it was worth it |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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A blokes wife whoem is a customer of ours |
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"A few years ago when i was around 18/19, i got fucked by my dads friend who was in his 50’s at the time"
Awesome |
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By *enatton2Couple 29 weeks ago
West Midlands |
Bens married best friend, Ben watched and joined in though lol |
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By *wointo1Couple (MM) 29 weeks ago
Manchester |
I want to fuck the ex fiancé from 20 years ago.
She dumped me. It took me years to get over it.
She's now married with kids and wants to meet up.
I just want to fuck her and show her what she missed, then walk away, nothing more.
To do or not to!?? |
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"Who've you fucked, that (some) people will say you shouldn't have?
Or maybe you haven't done yet but would like to!
Someone elses husband, wife, mother / father in law, sister, brother....
All in the name of fun, start sharing the details
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Your mum and then have you on cuck cleanup duties! |
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My hairdresser after she cut my hair at mine |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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Some secrets aren’t even for broadcasting here. |
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These stories …… keep them cumming!!! Literally
In college our basketball captain he was Hungarian!
When I was working I met my then best mates dad! I was 19 he was 50 something
In one of my other jobs I sucked off my bosses brother in the club toilets! He was the bouncer and I worked for the brother
Oh and one of the local “politicians” he was running for election at the time |
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The op’s directors secretary on my leaving do, got caught with her wrapped around me against a wall in a fire escape lobby
Hey she was good what can I say |
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"I’d get banned for answering this! ????"
Go on you know you want to |
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my friends son and his mate they were both 18 |
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"my friends son and his mate they were both 18"
Good girl |
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By *otgirl32Woman 29 weeks ago
Ashton Under Lyne |
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By *tms1xCouple 29 weeks ago
Chelmsford |
"my friends son and his mate they were both 18"
Threesome? Or separately? |
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Been a couple over the years.
So my wife and I have a open marriage /cuckqean dynamic. So I'm one of the lucky guys with a legitimate constant free pass (well verified couples account listed in profile incase anyone wants check).
So the first one....
My wife's old freind. This was way back when we started many years ago. She was single at the time. Became an issue later on when she started dating and the guy she was engaged to found out. Kind of ended my wifes and her friendship though their marrige didn't last.
Had a lady I met regularly after that (again this was years ago). She wasn't a swinger but was curious. I was straight forward and honest about what I was looking for and she went for it. She never acctually interacted with my wife and for year or so it was all good. Nights out every other week and fun in a casual sense. But after a year she started catching feelings and things had to come to an end. The feelings where not so.much an issue as it was she decided she wanted me to herself.
Was a long time ago for both now though (was in my 20s at the time) Since then I changed my approach. Wouldn't dream of approaching a woman outside of the scene. Rather we are all on the same page and know what we're getting into so there's no drama.
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Some random lady after a row with the wife on holiday. |
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Ive slept with V's cousin a few times which was quite risky. |
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I have wanted to fuck another man’s wife |
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Wife of a couple who were friends.... on a number of occasions |
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Would love to fuck someone on here who rolls there eyes at my married persons profile, but honestly know it’s not going to happen  |
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"my friends son and his mate they were both 18"
Very hot. I loved getting with my mates dad when I was 18 |
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By *yeSure OP Man 29 weeks ago
Glasgow |
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Regrets: none, it's just sex"
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Married member of my team in work, still doing it too |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"I’d get banned for answering this! ???? really?"
100% |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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Likewise  |
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I had one from fab for over 2 years it was very local too me she had hubby and kids used to try and dodge her in normal life |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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Not done it but fantasise about my dad in law all the time, mans got a big bulge, woupd love to have him rail me |
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My friend’s brother. She didn’t know and still doesn’t know  |
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By *arcus88Man 28 weeks ago
essex / East London |
"My friend’s brother. She didn’t know and still doesn’t know "
Exciting. How long have you been keeping the secret? Older or younger brother? |
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"My friend’s brother. She didn’t know and still doesn’t know
Exciting. How long have you been keeping the secret? Older or younger brother? "
He’s same age as me, she’s a couple years older than us. About 21 years |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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My first wife’s sister at a family wedding reception, we were on the verge of splitting up, I got a little tipsy, found her in the gardens of the hotel crying as her marriage wasn’t in a good place.
We sat chatting and out of nowhere we were kissing like there was no tomorrow, she unzipped me and climbed onto my lap, slipped her knickers to one side and we just went for it, after a frenzied few minutes I unloaded inside her, she got off me licked me clean and returned to the party.
We never spoke of it again but it was the best family wedding I’ve ever been too |
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My x wife and I had a 3sum with her Aunty which I found very kinky. Few years later when I was single I went out with my x wife’s Auntys daughter. I never told the daughter I had been with her mum, but the aunty new I was fucking her daughter. |
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Years ago I fucked my mom’s work colleague…… taught me lots!! |
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Other than her best friend, the "I absolutely shouldn't have but did anyway" was an ex neighbour. Mrs and neighbour hated each other's guts from the minute she moved in until she moved out. She was sexy as fuck, made it very clear she wanted to fuck me, and temptation got the better of me in the end just before she moved out. |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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"Other than her best friend, the "I absolutely shouldn't have but did anyway" was an ex neighbour. Mrs and neighbour hated each other's guts from the minute she moved in until she moved out. She was sexy as fuck, made it very clear she wanted to fuck me, and temptation got the better of me in the end just before she moved out."
Well as she was moving out, no harm done I guess |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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A friends sister
A different friends gf (now his wife) |
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By *teve_8Man 28 weeks ago
North East |
Married girl from work.
Another girl from work who wasn’t single.
My gf’s friend
Fucked a girl from work upstairs whilst gf was downstairs.
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Was in the phone to my ex wife while fucking a girl I was seeing on the side |
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I had lots of seriously hot fun with my now sister in law,at the time my sister wasn't married to her brother they were just engaged
We used to meet up quite regularly and we fuck like rabbits,I always stayed at there house,her brother and parents didn't think anything was going on they just thought we were friends |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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Few wives/girlfriends when they were on nights out.
I knew a guy once, not a close friend but knew each other enough, I was sleeping with his girlfriend for a few weeks. Didn’t realised he saw her car the one day and knocked the door, that was awkward |
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By *T89Man 28 weeks ago
near |
Fucked a mother and daughter in the same week |
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My late wife and sister in law got pissed one night and her husband said he wasn’t going to try and walk her home. So he put her to bed in spare room and I put mrs to bed in our room. Had a couple more beers then sister in laws husband went home. I went up to check on mrs so was out cold carefully opened spare room door to check her. Her skirt was up round her waist and I could see her pussy through her white nicks. Something made me go over to the bed and i started to wank over her as I cum some some of it landed on her pussy covered nickers. I rubbed it in a bit and left. Next morning took the mrs to work and told her her sister had stayed over. She told me to go back make her a cuppa before going to work. I walked into spare room with a cuppa and she told me she knew what I’d done last night and I had to lick her nicks clean or she would tell her sister. As she said this I saw a glinting in her eye. I went down and started to lick her she put a hand on my head and started to rub her self against my face. After a few minutes she let go and I pulled my cock out pulled her nicks to the side and fucked her hard cumming in her then told her to clean her self up and help her self to anything as I was off the work. Never talked about it then about 10 years later her daughter now 20 has come to stay and while mrs was at work she told me her mum had told her how I’d fucked her and how much she had enjoyed it. Next thing her daughter is pulling out my cock and sucking me hard. She then said she same to fuck her and cum I her turned out she had been fucked by her boyfriend but only with condoms and she wanted to be filled with cum. After that I decided never again to close to home. But did enjoy it. |
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Family friend many many years me senior just after her husband passed |
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No 1 would ever belive the men that use me proper shock the world x |
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When I was a lot younger lol I fucked my girlfriend's mother |
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I have fucked my mum's best friend and also had an ex girlfriends son. |
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I was in a relationship years ago with a girl. We parted ways and she went on to get married. The guy she married I fucked his sister many moons ago, so I’ve fucked this guys sister and wife.
I’ve done nothing wrong morally, neither have the two women involved, but it’s a small world at times |
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By *edhead72Man 28 weeks ago
Cheltenham and Ashby |
A woman down the pub once |
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"A few years ago when i was around 18/19, i got fucked by my dads friend who was in his 50’s at the time"
Nice one, my young wife at the time was fucked by a friend of my dad. |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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Mates wife while he was asleep in next room |
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The very attractive older sister of a good mate of mine. She instigated it so that's how I justified it to myself |
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Finally fucked my neighbour, can’t let her dad find out though |
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By *LiamMan 28 weeks ago
Midlands |
A 'lesbian' co worker
My old pals sister. In his room  |
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By *illxxMan 28 weeks ago
motherwell |
My ex bosses wife met her in Spain she was on a hen weekend. What happens on holiday stays on holiday |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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I was seeing a girl that was 18 when I was nearly 30. Her parents thought it was a phase both for me as I'd recently split from a LTR, and her because I was her first "serious" relationship.
After a few months we all went out for a birthday dinner. After which we had a few drinks back at the house. My gf had d*unk too much and was put to bed. When everyone went to bed, her Mum stayed up and fixed up the sofa bed for me in the den. We had a few more drinks in the kitchen and she asked what my thing with her daughter was. I hated labels back then too so just said it was what it was until it wasn't.
She smiled, stood up and went into the den. I gave it a few seconds then followed her in where I found her topless and undoing her jeans.
"I'm tempted to say don't make me scream but I want you to like you do my daughter".
That was a filthy fuck.
The GF fizzled out but I kept seeing the Mum from time to time for a few years. |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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The sales woman when I bought my current house, she was bent over the sink in the kitchen of the show home.
That show home is now my next door neighbour's house and I often sit there sharing a coffee with them |
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By (user no longer on site) 28 weeks ago
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Wow, this topic has unlocked so many memories.
My best mate growing up was a real player so got a few girls by by the nice guy when they found out he was a player.
I also had two best mates in my early 20s. One married a girl (I'll call her P) we both tried to pull on a night out and a few times she d*unkenly joked she's picked the wrong one. P'd been a swinger and when she found out I'd dabbled we had a lot of flirty banter, particularly when d*unk.
A few years later my other best mate (the player) married and settled down with S. After a BBQ at his house I was left up with both the wives and one ran out of cigs. As I'd not been drinking I offered to take them to get some. We hung around near the petrol station and the conversation soon became flirty. P was very bi and her hubby hated, S had never tried but was curious. After some more flirty conversation, the two girls started making out before S bottled it and we went home.
She went to bed leaving P and me in the conservatory where were fucked the rest of the night away. |
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That reminded me
The chalet girl in Val d’isere while her Bf was sleeping, d*unk in the room next door, and the following night over the pool table |
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Had an affair with my mates wife for three years.... |
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My mates little sister. I was 28 she was 20! He'd be fuming if he knew! |
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By *hornleeMan 26 weeks ago
Stockton on Tees |
I fucked my best friends girlfriend the night my wive gave birth to our daughter yes I know not good the only defence I have was that we were both pissed . Not with the wive now and yes we all know about it and even have a laugh about it when we get together platonic get together. |
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During a works night out a younger colleague said they fancied me and we ended up out the back having a kiss and she slid her hands inside my trousers. Just a fumble, but then we went back to another colleague’s house and had a couple more drinks, went off to separate bedrooms, but the thought of that fumble wouldn’t go away, so I crept into the bedroom… wrong bedroom! Pretended I was pissed and walked out. Finally found the room she was in and we fucked all night. After that she split with her bf and we carried on meeting every week for a cheeky fuck. A couple of people at work guessed but most were clueless.
She was good |
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X wife's best friend in my daughters bed, while our kids were playing downstairs |
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When I was 19 I used to fuck the wife of a guy in his late 30's in our street, very secretively.
Eventually discovered that this was actually their kink and he knew all about it and was quite often hiding in the house while I was there.
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By *ndyelyMan 26 weeks ago
chatteris |
Me and ex wife had 3sum with her bosses daughter |
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Probably my brothers best friend, and then another one of his friends. He still doesn’t know I think and they don’t know separately.
It’s kinda awkward/fun when we’re all together |
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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago
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Ex wife best mates two. Both married. |
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My ex sister in law some I work with |
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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago
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Ex- wife’s best friend, a couple of mates ex’s |
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Fairly common for me.
Barmaid in boozer up town. Receptionist at work and a couple of secretaries. Im like an old 70s film lol.
But all great fun |
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By *odgerMan 26 weeks ago
Coventry(ish)London |
On a night out with my ex gf, I was dancing with her mother who proceeded to try and shove her tongue in my mouth. I didn't respond to the old trout. Anyway we were staying at her father's house with his new wife who'd been giving me the eye all night. Once we'd got back, my ex went to bed and then her dad went, so I was left alone with with her step-mother. We hugged and kissed with no tongues and she said 'I should go to bed before it gets too fruity'. Never saw either of them again . |
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Years ago I fucked my gf and her mum in the same day. Not my proudest of moments |
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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago
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Fucked an ex colleagues daughter just after her 18th birthday |
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By *host63Man 26 weeks ago
Bedfont Feltham |
"I want to fuck the ex fiancé from 20 years ago.
She dumped me. It took me years to get over it.
She's now married with kids and wants to meet up.
I just want to fuck her and show her what she missed, then walk away, nothing more.
To do or not to!??"
Do it. |
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My ex's mum, fun but complicated! |
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My wife's twin sister, it started in 2022 when she co-drove one of my cars to our place in the South of France 4 days before my wife flew out to join us.
I published what happened on here and if anyone wants to read it mail me.
Our affair lasted for about a year before we stopped it as her husband was suspicious.
She came to France with us last month leaving her husband at home as he does not like the heat and we started to play again when my wife was asleep on the sun bed, dangerous but that made it more exciting.
Mail me if you want to know more |
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07376 484857 anyone fancy a chat |
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By *anSMan 26 weeks ago
Shrewsbury |
"My wife's twin sister, it started in 2022 when she co-drove one of my cars to our place in the South of France 4 days before my wife flew out to join us.
I published what happened on here and if anyone wants to read it mail me.
Our affair lasted for about a year before we stopped it as her husband was suspicious.
She came to France with us last month leaving her husband at home as he does not like the heat and we started to play again when my wife was asleep on the sun bed, dangerous but that made it more exciting.
Mail me if you want to know more"
Awkward, naughty, and extremely hot at the same time |
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By *.hrisMan 26 weeks ago
Nearby |
My mates girlfriend. They were always cheating on each other, she told me they had split up and would never get back togther again, then she was back with him a week later.
Made me feel a little guilty |
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Best mates girlfriend while he was asleep I shagged her downstairs
Got so many more lol some I can’t say |
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Women seem to be a little thin on the ground in this thread, I'm not sure what that says about us men!  |
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By *bfabMan 26 weeks ago
Burgess Hill |
Ex’s sister after we’d split up, friends sister, and a mates ex.
Also slept with a few girls who were in relationships with guys I know but I didn’t class them as friends |
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My friends wife. She would randomly send me pics. One day handed me a video and said, watch it and let me know what you think. She was playing with herself , with toys and fucking herself with a dildo.
I returned it and said, I would have liked to have watched you. She made it happen a few days later. |
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"Women seem to be a little thin on the ground in this thread, I'm not sure what that says about us men! "
Aha says a lot and I love it |
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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago
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My ex’s mum  |
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Nothing better than a secret fuck
Friends mum and sister for me |
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"Women seem to be a little thin on the ground in this thread, I'm not sure what that says about us men!
Aha says a lot and I love it "
It takes two to tango |
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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago
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Used to play in concert bands at school, when I was 17 I was fucking one of the teachers...quite a few people knew about it but this is before people told and I was absolutely loving it |
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By *hyrichMan 26 weeks ago
lincolnshire |
"I’d get banned for answering this! ????"
Would love to know why/who |
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By *hyrichMan 26 weeks ago
lincolnshire |
"Who've you fucked, that (some) people will say you shouldn't have?
Or maybe you haven't done yet but would like to!
Like that idea
Someone elses husband, wife, mother / father in law, sister, brother....
All in the name of fun, start sharing the details
Your mum and then have you on cuck cleanup duties! "
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By *hyrichMan 26 weeks ago
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"My x wife and I had a 3sum with her Aunty which I found very kinky. Few years later when I was single I went out with my x wife’s Auntys daughter. I never told the daughter I had been with her mum, but the aunty new I was fucking her daughter."
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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago
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Pregnant married colleagues after hours at work. Naughty I know but we had a connection and she was rampant for sex |
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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago
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I was very young lets just put it this way ! That secret can never come out and since then I thought about it but tried so hard not to imagine ever again! Not proud at all but I was naive |
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By *k_123Man 26 weeks ago
the north |
I’ve fucked 2 people from the office at work. Both married and neither know I’ve been with the other :0 |
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A few years back an older ex gf (47) cheated with this married guy (61) so to get them back! Me (36) & his very busty bbw wife (60) had our own little meet ups while she was divorcing him.
His wife & I let them both know from the get go!
As to top it off I'm the same age as there son. Best 6 months ever |
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"A few years back an older ex gf (47) cheated with this married guy (61) so to get them back! Me (36) & his very busty bbw wife (60) had our own little meet ups while she was divorcing him.
His wife & I let them both know from the get go!
As to top it off I'm the same age as there son. Best 6 months ever "
Sounds great - hot profile you have too. Would be a privilege to breed your sexy lady! |
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Am totally horned up to fuck my next door neighbour. We get on well, but she's partnered up. Can't help thinking if he was away and we had a couple of drinks... |
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By *ilva69Man 26 weeks ago
stockport |
Who is in the mood for a confession? |
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By *ilva69Man 26 weeks ago
stockport |
"Fucked an ex colleagues daughter just after her 18th birthday "
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By *bckentMan 26 weeks ago
Medway Area |
Close friend of my parents visiting for a weekend. Snuck into the guest room each night...gorgeous ass |
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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago
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I think we're all guilty of a fuck or two that would be frowned upon but who's willing to go public? |
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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago
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Not had a guilty fuck as such but had a few long term flings. |
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My ex sister in law an oriental woman |
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Every job I have had I have targeted a boss and got them into bed. Mr was one of them but not the last I have just started a new job hmmm xx |
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My wife's sister.
It's not that simple though, we dated before me and my wife got together so it's reasonably understandable.
I often joke about it though as my wife has two more sisters |
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Every job I have had I have targeted a boss and got them into bed. Mr was one of them but not the last, I have just started a new job hmmm xx |
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I once had a brief experience with my girlfriends mum... :-0
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Not fucking. But quite a bit happened with a family member |
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When I was in my mid 20’s I shagged my gf at the time older sister. |
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i shaged my eldest brothers wife many years ago i was staying at theres and she caught me wanking...one thing lead to another very quickly |
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By (user no longer on site) 25 weeks ago
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Married women are a real temptation that I can’t avoid |
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By *orny PTMan 25 weeks ago
Peterborough |
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By (user no longer on site) 25 weeks ago
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Ex girlfriends cousin and mate |
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By (user no longer on site) 25 weeks ago
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Mr here and it was the ex's twin sister then there mother on a night out but didn't find out till later |
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I've fucked 3 of my married customers of my garage |
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Well had a party about 6mths ago my mates and Young lady he came with wasn’t boyfriend or girlfriend or partners anything like that at the time Through the night she was given the signs and stuff like that by the end of the night my major crashed out on the sofa and you can imagine the rest |
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I fucked my ex wife’s aunt. They stayed at ours after a party. Everyone had left or gone to bed so there was only me and her aunt awake. Without warning she grabbed me and kissed me. I was shocked but soon relaxed. We went into the dining room and fucked on the floor. When we finished she went up to our spare room so she could join her husband and I went I bed to join my wife. The next morning was a little awkward but we managed to have a secret giggle and no one found out.
Another one was a colleague at work who knew my wife. She would talk about my wife as I fucked her, which sent me crazy and turned me on massively. She’s tell me how to fuck my wife and then tell her about it as I fucked her later. |
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Dad's friend when I was just about legal age he was in 40s at the time |
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"Dad's friend when I was just about legal age he was in 40s at the time "
Dads friends always seem to want a o have a go |
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Had my ex Girlfriends son when he was 23 |
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By *YDB75Man 24 weeks ago
East Yorkie |
One of the mums in my sons rugby team.
They had left some equipment back at their house so i took her back to get it.
Bent over to pick the box up and she went in for the grab and cupping as i was in shorts |
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By *omRachCouple 24 weeks ago
Wirral |
I've fucked and been fucked by one of my best mates.
Rach FULLY aware. |
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My Neighbours daughter (she’s just turned 18) |
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my mates now fiancé, met her on a dating app and done the deed. Mate later met her on the same dating app and is now getting hitched. He’s none the wiser |
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By *om6047Man 19 weeks ago
manchester |
Two of my female friends, both in relationships with other women, one married |
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A friend`s mum and aunt, on the same night - but not together!
Another friend`s wife, many times... |
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"A few years ago when i was around 18/19, i got fucked by my dads friend who was in his 50’s at the time"
lucky man, do you still see him to talk to x
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