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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Here's an interesting subject I've seen come up on here quite a lot and have been asked about it in e-mails as well.
I personally will not do bareback with anyone who I've just met until I know that I can trust them and they don't have any STD's.
Also I wouldn't expect them to want to do it bareback with me as even though I know I have nothing and I'm clean, they don't know me until we've met quite a few times and actually got to know each other.
So my question is those of you who have done bareback with a stranger from here or in real life, have you ever met someone else after it and done bareback with them as well without getting yourself checked.
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"Here's an interesting subject I've seen come up on here quite a lot and have been asked about it in e-mails as well.
I personally will not do bareback with anyone who I've just met until I know that I can trust them and they don't have any STD's.
Also I wouldn't expect them to want to do it bareback with me as even though I know I have nothing and I'm clean, they don't know me until we've met quite a few times and actually got to know each other.
So my question is those of you who have done bareback with a stranger from here or in real life, have you ever met someone else after it and done bareback with them as well without getting yourself checked.
Just curious is all "
you honestly think people are going to come right out and say they have doen bareback ? ....a few yes but most wont admit it lol |
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"I personally will not do bareback with anyone who I've just met until I know that I can trust them and they don't have any STD's.
Also I wouldn't expect them to want to do it bareback with me as even though I know I have nothing and I'm clean, they don't know me until we've met quite a few times and actually got to know each other."
Wow.... So you know you have nothing and you're clean... That may be true today (on the assption you've had your sexual health check results today and have refrained from playing for the last 3 months or so) but the minute you play with anyone after that you can't really make that statement.
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"you honestly think people are going to come right out and say they have doen bareback ? ....a few yes but most wont admit it lol "
I've done bareback. Either that or the fairies left my daughter under a cabbage leaf. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Yeah I always use protection and get myself checked after I've been with someone whether they're a partner or a one off night I try my best to make sure I'm as safe as I can be before I do anything with anyone else. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"you honestly think people are going to come right out and say they have doen bareback ? ....a few yes but most wont admit it lol
I've done bareback. Either that or the fairies left my daughter under a cabbage leaf."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Here's an interesting subject I've seen come up on here quite a lot and have been asked about it in e-mails as well.
I personally will not do bareback with anyone who I've just met until I know that I can trust them and they don't have any STD's.
Also I wouldn't expect them to want to do it bareback with me as even though I know I have nothing and I'm clean, they don't know me until we've met quite a few times and actually got to know each other.
So my question is those of you who have done bareback with a stranger from here or in real life, have you ever met someone else after it and done bareback with them as well without getting yourself checked.
Just curious is all "
I wouldn't do bare back with someone I did know, ive met a guy off here regular for over a year and we still use condoms, if hes willing to go bare with me he'd be willing to do it with others, if your going to play bare with someone off here you may as well do it from the first meet as far as I can see, they are no less likely to pick someone up after 2 or 3 meets
im also curious to know that when you go bare with someone you feel you trust do you go get checked before you play with anyone else? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah I always use protection and get myself checked after I've been with someone whether they're a partner or a one off night I try my best to make sure I'm as safe as I can be before I do anything with anyone else."
I'm not understanding this comment in relation to your opening post about playing bareback when you know someone?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I wouldn't do bare back with someone I did know, ive met a guy off here regular for over a year and we still use condoms, if hes willing to go bare with me he'd be willing to do it with others, if your going to play bare with someone off here you may as well do it from the first meet as far as I can see, they are no less likely to pick someone up after 2 or 3 meets
im also curious to know that when you go bare with someone you feel you trust do you go get checked before you play with anyone else?"
Yes always, I wouldn't go with someone else without getting myself checked after doing bareback it's a must for me |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah I always use protection and get myself checked after I've been with someone whether they're a partner or a one off night I try my best to make sure I'm as safe as I can be before I do anything with anyone else."
sorry but I just don't believe that
your honestly telling me that when you have a partner you still use condoms and you go get checked after every time you have sex?  
in your opening post you admit to going bare after you have met a few times now your saying you always use condoms even with a partner |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I wouldn't do bare back with someone I did know, ive met a guy off here regular for over a year and we still use condoms, if hes willing to go bare with me he'd be willing to do it with others, if your going to play bare with someone off here you may as well do it from the first meet as far as I can see, they are no less likely to pick someone up after 2 or 3 meets
im also curious to know that when you go bare with someone you feel you trust do you go get checked before you play with anyone else?
Yes always, I wouldn't go with someone else without getting myself checked after doing bareback it's a must for me "
but in your opening post you say you only go bare with people you trust and know they have no STIs, if you know they have no STIs why would you feel the need to get checked?
theres a lot of loop holes in your posts lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Yeah I always use protection and get myself checked after I've been with someone whether they're a partner or a one off night I try my best to make sure I'm as safe as I can be before I do anything with anyone else.
sorry but I just don't believe that
your honestly telling me that when you have a partner you still use condoms and you go get checked after every time you have sex?
in your opening post you admit to going bare after you have met a few times now your saying you always use condoms even with a partner "
Lol if i've been with someone for a while and done it bareback and stopped using condoms, I go and get myself checked.
If for some reason the relationship doesn't work out and I meet someone else I get myself checked again, why is that so hard to believe ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah I always use protection and get myself checked after I've been with someone whether they're a partner or a one off night I try my best to make sure I'm as safe as I can be before I do anything with anyone else.
I'm not understanding this comment in relation to your opening post about playing bareback when you know someone?
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hes contradicting himself left right and centre |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Yeah I always use protection and get myself checked after I've been with someone whether they're a partner or a one off night I try my best to make sure I'm as safe as I can be before I do anything with anyone else.
sorry but I just don't believe that
your honestly telling me that when you have a partner you still use condoms and you go get checked after every time you have sex?
in your opening post you admit to going bare after you have met a few times now your saying you always use condoms even with a partner
Lol if i've been with someone for a while and done it bareback and stopped using condoms, I go and get myself checked.
If for some reason the relationship doesn't work out and I meet someone else I get myself checked again, why is that so hard to believe ? "
You must get checked an awful lot. Why not just wear condoms all the time and get checked less often? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Yeah I always use protection and get myself checked after I've been with someone whether they're a partner or a one off night I try my best to make sure I'm as safe as I can be before I do anything with anyone else.
I'm not understanding this comment in relation to your opening post about playing bareback when you know someone?
hes contradicting himself left right and centre "
Well just because you use a condom doesn't mean you can't get anything and I'm not contradicting myself lol regardless of who i've been with and for how long I like to get myself checked and it seems people find that hard to believe. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Well I wouldn't say an aweful lot just after every sexual partner I've been with before going with someone else.
Is that a bad thing ? People seem to be picking holes in that lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah I always use protection and get myself checked after I've been with someone whether they're a partner or a one off night I try my best to make sure I'm as safe as I can be before I do anything with anyone else.
I'm not understanding this comment in relation to your opening post about playing bareback when you know someone?
hes contradicting himself left right and centre
Well just because you use a condom doesn't mean you can't get anything and I'm not contradicting myself lol regardless of who i've been with and for how long I like to get myself checked and it seems people find that hard to believe."
I don't find people getting checked hard to believe, I just don't know why you don't say you prefer bareback, saying you only do it with people you trust and who you know have not STIs then going onto saying you get checked after proves you don't only go bare with people you know have no STIs as if you knew they had no STIs you wouldn't need to get checked after  |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Well I wouldn't say an aweful lot just after every sexual partner I've been with before going with someone else.
Is that a bad thing ? People seem to be picking holes in that lol"
Its not a bad idea to get checked, but it is risky behaviour to use GUM clinics as STI prevention. Because by the time you get there, you've already got the infection! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Lol not really I'm not out to get points but considering this is a site for meeting people and I've seen quite a few pepople put on here that they like to do it bareback isn't it a fair question ?
Or are you trolling lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that this is a 'look at me, ain't i a good boy' post thats went horribly wrong! "
Lol not really I'm not out to get points but considering this is a site for meeting people and I've seen quite a few pepople put on here that they like to do it bareback isn't it a fair question ?
Or are you trolling lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Yeah I always use protection and get myself checked after I've been with someone whether they're a partner or a one off night I try my best to make sure I'm as safe as I can be before I do anything with anyone else.
I'm not understanding this comment in relation to your opening post about playing bareback when you know someone?
hes contradicting himself left right and centre
Well just because you use a condom doesn't mean you can't get anything and I'm not contradicting myself lol regardless of who i've been with and for how long I like to get myself checked and it seems people find that hard to believe.
I don't find people getting checked hard to believe, I just don't know why you don't say you prefer bareback, saying you only do it with people you trust and who you know have not STIs then going onto saying you get checked after proves you don't only go bare with people you know have no STIs as if you knew they had no STIs you wouldn't need to get checked after "
Lol well how many people get cheated on and people don't know about it but you still think that you trust that person and are the last one to know or sometimes you may never find out is what I was getting at but probably didn't explain it properly.
And even if you use a condom and it is a one night thing you can still get something it isn't 100% protection |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm guessing that this is a 'look at me, ain't i a good boy' post thats went horribly wrong!
Lol not really I'm not out to get points but considering this is a site for meeting people and I've seen quite a few pepople put on here that they like to do it bareback isn't it a fair question ?
Or are you trolling lol"
Trolling? Nope. Just giving an opinion. And yeah, it was a fair questin, but then, as other ops have said, you contradicted yourself left, right and centre. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I wouldn't go bareback with someone who wasn't my partner either but still get checked anyway to be sure.
And if you're with a partner I'm sure there comes a time in every relationship where you trust each other enough not to use them. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I'm guessing that this is a 'look at me, ain't i a good boy' post thats went horribly wrong!
Lol not really I'm not out to get points but considering this is a site for meeting people and I've seen quite a few pepople put on here that they like to do it bareback isn't it a fair question ?
Or are you trolling lol
Trolling? Nope. Just giving an opinion. And yeah, it was a fair questin, but then, as other ops have said, you contradicted yourself left, right and centre. "
Lol not really one way or another I've said with a one night thing I use a condom and get checked afterwards.
If it's a partner I use condoms and if i do it bareback with them I get checked.
And if the relationship doesn't work out I get checked again.
I hardly find that to be contradicting myself but I have been trying to keep up with the replies as well so I may not have worded it all 100% correctly as it was intended. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I wouldn't go bareback with someone who wasn't my partner either but still get checked anyway to be sure.
And if you're with a partner I'm sure there comes a time in every relationship where you trust each other enough not to use them. "
Yes but you never mentioned partners in your opening post.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I wouldn't go bareback with someone who wasn't my partner either but still get checked anyway to be sure.
And if you're with a partner I'm sure there comes a time in every relationship where you trust each other enough not to use them.
Yes but you never mentioned partners in your opening post.
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It was because of this answer from someone and I went into more detail.
"Wow.... So you know you have nothing and you're clean... That may be true today (on the assption you've had your sexual health check results today and have refrained from playing for the last 3 months or so) but the minute you play with anyone after that you can't really make that statement."
To which I said
"Yeah I always use protection and get myself checked after I've been with someone whether they're a partner or a one off night I try my best to make sure I'm as safe as I can be before I do anything with anyone else."
And after that I've had everyone saying I'm contradicting myself when I was simply answering someone's question and added in more detail probably than what I should have. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's a perfectly reasonable question , but as so many have intimated - there is unlikely to be one person on a public forum who will confess to going bareback !
Everyone will swear blind they never would but in reality you have to assume all of your meets will do , and take your health in your own hands .
But going back to the thread , still waiting for the first to admit playing bb !!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's a perfectly reasonable question , but as so many have intimated - there is unlikely to be one person on a public forum who will confess to going bareback !
Everyone will swear blind they never would but in reality you have to assume all of your meets will do , and take your health in your own hands .
But going back to the thread , still waiting for the first to admit playing bb !!!!"
I've went bareback! Quite a few times actually. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Guess I am going to put the cat amongst the pigeons...
Tin hat on - check
body armour - check
ok here goes...
Does everyone use condoms for oral sex as well? or is it just penetrative sex?
I would suggest that in reality most if not all swingers go BB orally so using a condom for penetrative sex is redundant! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm guessing that this is a 'look at me, ain't i a good boy' post thats went horribly wrong! "
 I always wear a seatbelt during sex. You never know what might happen!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Guess I am going to put the cat amongst the pigeons...
Tin hat on - check
body armour - check
ok here goes...
Does everyone use condoms for oral sex as well? or is it just penetrative sex?
I would suggest that in reality most if not all swingers go BB orally so using a condom for penetrative sex is redundant!"
I'm not going to condemn people who go bare as we're all responsible for our own sexual practises. You don't like it, don't play with them.
Though I always laugh when people say "I don't sleep with people who bareback" because you'd still wear a condom if that person also played safe.
or would you?  |
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By *e nicerWoman
over a year ago
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I wouldn't do bare back with someone I did know, ive met a guy off here regular for over a year and we still use condoms, if hes willing to go bare with me he'd be willing to do it with others, if your going to play bare with someone off here you may as well do it from the first meet as far as I can see, they are no less likely to pick someone up after 2 or 3 meets
im also curious to know that when you go bare with someone you feel you trust do you go get checked before you play with anyone else?
Yes always, I wouldn't go with someone else without getting myself checked after doing bareback it's a must for me
but in your opening post you say you only go bare with people you trust and know they have no STIs, if you know they have no STIs why would you feel the need to get checked?
theres a lot of loop holes in your posts lol"
Hope there's none in the condoms  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Guess I am going to put the cat amongst the pigeons...
Tin hat on - check
body armour - check
ok here goes...
Does everyone use condoms for oral sex as well? or is it just penetrative sex?
I would suggest that in reality most if not all swingers go BB orally so using a condom for penetrative sex is redundant!
I'm not going to condemn people who go bare as we're all responsible for our own sexual practises. You don't like it, don't play with them.
Though I always laugh when people say "I don't sleep with people who bareback" because you'd still wear a condom if that person also played safe.
or would you? "
I fit into the category of a condom wearer for penetrative sex. Though orally I have only ever used a condom once and i have never oral sheet on a women. So because of this the chances of getting an STI are still high so regular checkups have to be done.
If you swing you should be getting regular checkups because by definition we are in a higher risk group due to our permissiveness
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Ok..
So.. Howcome nobody seems to know about dental dams? They are easy to make from a normal condom...just snip from the rib to the tip, and unravel....voila!! SAFE ORAL SEX!!
Like the previous poster said... If you go bb orally it literally is the same dangers as bb penetrative sex.
Of course its personal choice as always but one has to consider if life is worth risking for a couple of minutes (maybe longer...maybe shorter  ) of bb sex....
Not for me I'm afraid. Unless its my husband of course!
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People who point out they have children are (checks words carefully to avoid the naughty step...counts to 10...breath...) missing the point!
Having sex with...your...partner (sigh) is NOT the same as having bare back sex with various random people you pick up for casual, recreational sex!!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Here's an interesting subject I've seen come up on here quite a lot and have been asked about it in e-mails as well.
I personally will not do bareback with anyone who I've just met until I know that I can trust them and they don't have any STD's.
Also I wouldn't expect them to want to do it bareback with me as even though I know I have nothing and I'm clean, they don't know me until we've met quite a few times and actually got to know each other.
So my question is those of you who have done bareback with a stranger from here or in real life, have you ever met someone else after it and done bareback with them as well without getting yourself checked.
Just curious is all "
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"People who point out they have children are (checks words carefully to avoid the naughty step...counts to 10...breath...) missing the point!
Having sex with...your...partner (sigh) is NOT the same as having bare back sex with various random people you pick up for casual, recreational sex!!! "
I was being facetious to be honest. It was a reply to a comment saying that no-one would admit to EVER going bareback, yet many people have. I do agree that context is everything though. |
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"Whichever way you try and justify any reasons for going bareback, the plain facts are it is irresponsible and stupid."
And so too is having a promiscuous sex life because being an active swinger is is everything that isn't practicing safe-sex |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whichever way you try and justify any reasons for going bareback, the plain facts are it is irresponsible and stupid.
And so too is having a promiscuous sex life because being an active swinger is is everything that isn't practicing safe-sex "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Whichever way you try and justify any reasons for going bareback, the plain facts are it is irresponsible and stupid.
And so too is having a promiscuous sex life because being an active swinger is is everything that isn't practicing safe-sex "
Sums up my point exactly in a neat sentence. |
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"Whichever way you try and justify any reasons for going bareback, the plain facts are it is irresponsible and stupid.
And so too is having a promiscuous sex life because being an active swinger is is everything that isn't practicing safe-sex "
...and there you have it! |
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To be honest, for me it doesn't matter how long I've known them or how well I THINK I know them. Your sexual health is your own responsibility and whether checked or not, what makes you think you can trust them not to play with anyone else before going bareback with you? It only takes the one and you could end up with something that stays with you for life.
Condoms EVERY time for us. x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I put the symbol earlier but forgot to say that I do practice safe sex its just this one particular guy hes well um a long stayer - think thats the right term? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some people protest too much me thinks!!!"
I remember a thread like this that was posted by a LASS saying she loved it. A few gals agreed with her, and then my phone nearly blew up cos it couldn't handle the amount of guys saying they loved it! Lol. |
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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago
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"Some people protest too much me thinks!!!
I remember a thread like this that was posted by a LASS saying she loved it. A few gals agreed with her, and then my phone nearly blew up cos it couldn't handle the amount of guys saying they loved it! Lol."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The thing that always amuses me with this is that if as a female you say you have done it. You get loads of messages asking if you can do it with random guys.
all will state safe sex only on profile. Some will have even given a statement on a forum post saying how stupid it is.
I am adult enough to decide for myself if I do or not. And yes if I have had unprotected sex with strangers in the past. Although before my swinging days.
Is it risky? Of course but it's a risk sometimes I'm prepared to take because I enjoy full sex. And sorry but without being filled it's not full sex for me.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some people protest too much me thinks!!!
I remember a thread like this that was posted by a LASS saying she loved it. A few gals agreed with her, and then my phone nearly blew up cos it couldn't handle the amount of guys saying they loved it! Lol."
well of course given.the choice we d all prefer bareback! damn those bloody stds!! |
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all sex is a risk
sex without a condom with an intravenous drug user who shares needles is a big risk
sex with a condom with a long term partner is a low risk
but lets not pretend its zero risk
the only zero risk is abstinence, and I maybe assuming here but I'm guessing for most on here abstinence isn't an option! |
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"all sex is a risk
sex without a condom with an intravenous drug user who shares needles is a big risk
sex with a condom with a long term partner is a low risk
but lets not pretend its zero risk
the only zero risk is abstinence, and I maybe assuming here but I'm guessing for most on here abstinence isn't an option!"
Of course. It's just being aware of those risks and making an informed decision about which you are willing to take.
I like to think of it as a zombie apocalypse though: If they're breaking into the house, would I rather face them with a riot sheild and a weapon, or open the door and invite them in for a hug and a cuppa.
- Amy. x |
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By *ussypussWoman
over a year ago
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"the only zero risk is abstinence, and I maybe assuming here but I'm guessing for most on here abstinence isn't an option!"
I'm definitely not abstaining!!!
BB with regular partner, and we both ALWAYS use condoms with anyone else |
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I just realised how snidey that sounds... it wasn't meant that way.
Also my first post was more about not trusting anyone but yourself (including the risks you take).
Now, I think I need another drink! x |
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The biggest problem with this subject on here is that it always ends up with some of the avid condom users insulting those who choose not to.
It might make a change to debate how best to reduce risks while still getting what you want the way you want.
If the self-righteous didn't condemn people who prefer bare-back then people could be more honest. I don't mean to make any excuse for those who bend the truth on the subject but essentially they are forced to, to avoid abuse! Hence creating one of the key things they complain about.
On another site we use the profiles have tick boxes which include 'safe-sex' AND 'prefer bare-back', it might surprise some of you when I tell you loads of people tick both.
While some folks will have very fixed opinions about it, most others just call it freedom of choice. |
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The biggest problem with this subject on here is that it always ends up with some of the avid condom users insulting those who choose not to.
It might make a change to debate how best to reduce risks while still getting what you want the way you want.
If the self-righteous didn't condemn people who prefer bare-back then people could be more honest. I don't mean to make any excuse for those who bend the truth on the subject but essentially they are forced to, to avoid abuse! Hence creating one of the key things they complain about.
On another site we use the profiles have tick boxes which include 'safe-sex' AND 'prefer bare-back', it might surprise some of you when I tell you loads of people tick both.
While some folks will have very fixed opinions about it, most others just call it freedom of choice. |
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first class forum topic well done to the post provider! Fab's a SUPER site but it doesn't condone stupidity. Weigh up the costs! Condoms = pennies life= priceless no contest |
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Being a medic myself, i would say that condoms are probably the best sex toy (if you want to call it that) there has ever been!! I have met patients who have had STIs assuming that they were clean. Certain viruses and even bacteria are asymptomatic and show no signs or symptoms until the damage is done. I could probably list about over 30 (if i can remember my medical school stuff). ALL are preventable by using a condom correctly. Bearbacking does not protect you since you will not be sure where the person has been....its the simple truth. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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Certainly people have a choice. However, such a choice does affect others which is evident in the rise of STIs. If it worries you never bareback and avoid those who do wherever possible. |
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By *owlmMan
over a year ago
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Never done bareback and i still get checked out at clinic for everything else. BB dosent appeal to me at all.
Sharing someone elses blood/semen with your blood/semen is so dangerous. HIV/HEP C are bugs which damage your bodies protection from other bugs and if something were to happen which affected our supply of lifesaving drugs (ie a war or an even worser economic situation). you could well die if you dont have access to these drugs. hiv would get too much and you would develop aids and probably die.
I dont honestly know why people bareback at all. HIV people may look healthy but if their drugs stop for whatever reason they will soon get into trouble in a few years. If you catch hiv your at the mercy of drug companies. Your immune system protects you from the outside world... dont ruin it!
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
Leicester |
"Never done bareback and i still get checked out at clinic for everything else. BB dosent appeal to me at all.
Sharing someone elses blood/semen with your blood/semen is so dangerous. HIV/HEP C are bugs which damage your bodies protection from other bugs and if something were to happen which affected our supply of lifesaving drugs (ie a war or an even worser economic situation). you could well die if you dont have access to these drugs. hiv would get too much and you would develop aids and probably die.
I dont honestly know why people bareback at all. HIV people may look healthy but if their drugs stop for whatever reason they will soon get into trouble in a few years. If you catch hiv your at the mercy of drug companies. Your immune system protects you from the outside world... dont ruin it!
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Your post comes across as a little hypocritical, especially when your profile states: "...horny lad looking for a throat full of spunk"
Perhaps you should heed your own warning?
You said; "I dont honestly know why people bareback at all."
Couples bareback all the time to procreate, and it would be a sad state of affairs if we couldn't trust our long term partners enough, so that we could safely bareback in a close and loving way. This thread will no doubt degenerate into another crazy witch hunt against the most natural form of sex out there. Of course there are risks when having unprotected sex ... and the risks need to be assessed carefully, but ffs ...be reasonable!
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there are plenty of pictures iv seen on this site with 1 woman 2 cocks and both got nothing on,
in swinging people have sex with a LOT of people and its so easy to catch std's
a lot of std's you cant get rid of,
Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C, Herpes,etc
when i get in a relationship i will not go bareback till we have both been tested.
im even weary of my girlfriend catching off other women as you can also catch std's sharing dildo's, that can easy be passed on to me when we dont use protection. so now even she does practice safe sex with women. |
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"question how long do u go with new partner b4 going bb bet with most people its not long xx"
I'll hold my hands up and say I've never used condoms with people I've met in vanilla world. I've never had my partners tested. And till I started swinging, I'd not been tested except when pregnant.
I have been lucky I guess. |
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By *owlmMan
over a year ago
Wakefield |
"Never done bareback and i still get checked out at clinic for everything else. BB dosent appeal to me at all.
Sharing someone elses blood/semen with your blood/semen is so dangerous. HIV/HEP C are bugs which damage your bodies protection from other bugs and if something were to happen which affected our supply of lifesaving drugs (ie a war or an even worser economic situation). you could well die if you dont have access to these drugs. hiv would get too much and you would develop aids and probably die.
I dont honestly know why people bareback at all. HIV people may look healthy but if their drugs stop for whatever reason they will soon get into trouble in a few years. If you catch hiv your at the mercy of drug companies. Your immune system protects you from the outside world... dont ruin it!
Your post comes across as a little hypocritical, especially when your profile states: "...horny lad looking for a throat full of spunk"
Perhaps you should heed your own warning?
You said; "I dont honestly know why people bareback at all."
Couples bareback all the time to procreate, and it would be a sad state of affairs if we couldn't trust our long term partners enough, so that we could safely bareback in a close and loving way. This thread will no doubt degenerate into another crazy witch hunt against the most natural form of sex out there. Of course there are risks when having unprotected sex ... and the risks need to be assessed carefully, but ffs ...be reasonable!
Apologies for my previous multiple deleted posts ...I'm having posting probs"
if you have bareback then you will deffo share someone elses blood/semen with yours. if your gay or straight.
oral carries 'some' risk but the risk is minimal. I also like oral because I find it kinkier than anal. and its safer.
you can still catch hpv and other sti's via oral. but oral sex is much safer. I enjoy oral sex more than anal. im not putting anyone elses life at risk or my own by indulging in this way.
yes of course theres some 'risk' but its a tiny risk and a risk worth taking. barebacking isnt a tiny risk at all and is very dangrous. ive shagged myself with fairly small dildo and still managed to bleed a little bit. so if that happens imagine how dangerous it would be having a diseased cock up there.... bareback isnt good at all. |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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"barebacking isnt a tiny risk at all and is very dangrous. ive shagged myself with fairly small dildo and still managed to bleed a little bit. so if that happens imagine how dangerous it would be having a diseased cock up there.... bareback isnt good at all. "
You (and others) need to qualify ridiculous statements like this, by excluding safe and tested lovers in long-term relationships.
I bareback with my partner of 9 years all the time, and we are perfectly safe thankyou very much. |
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"Never done bareback and i still get checked out at clinic for everything else. BB dosent appeal to me at all.
Sharing someone elses blood/semen with your blood/semen is so dangerous. HIV/HEP C are bugs which damage your bodies protection from other bugs and if something were to happen which affected our supply of lifesaving drugs (ie a war or an even worser economic situation). you could well die if you dont have access to these drugs. hiv would get too much and you would develop aids and probably die.
I dont honestly know why people bareback at all. HIV people may look healthy but if their drugs stop for whatever reason they will soon get into trouble in a few years. If you catch hiv your at the mercy of drug companies. Your immune system protects you from the outside world... dont ruin it!
Your post comes across as a little hypocritical, especially when your profile states: "...horny lad looking for a throat full of spunk"
Perhaps you should heed your own warning?
You said; "I dont honestly know why people bareback at all."
Couples bareback all the time to procreate, and it would be a sad state of affairs if we couldn't trust our long term partners enough, so that we could safely bareback in a close and loving way. This thread will no doubt degenerate into another crazy witch hunt against the most natural form of sex out there. Of course there are risks when having unprotected sex ... and the risks need to be assessed carefully, but ffs ...be reasonable!
Apologies for my previous multiple deleted posts ...I'm having posting probs
if you have bareback then you will deffo share someone elses blood/semen with yours. if your gay or straight.
oral carries 'some' risk but the risk is minimal. I also like oral because I find it kinkier than anal. and its safer.
you can still catch hpv and other sti's via oral. but oral sex is much safer. I enjoy oral sex more than anal. im not putting anyone elses life at risk or my own by indulging in this way.
yes of course theres some 'risk' but its a tiny risk and a risk worth taking. barebacking isnt a tiny risk at all and is very dangrous. ive shagged myself with fairly small dildo and still managed to bleed a little bit. so if that happens imagine how dangerous it would be having a diseased cock up there.... bareback isnt good at all. "
Erm, maybe, just maybe, thats because your arse isn't MEANT to have a cock up there??
I've barebacked and got my kids to prove. Or do you propose we all use ivf for that now? |
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Just picked up on this and read most of replies etc
I see this as being if you don't you be dammed if you do still people will doubt you..
Best answer is just play safe |
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No matter what the debate is, barebacking with someone you dont know is risky. Working in the medical profession i can say that condoms are always safer. I have met patients with HIV and STIs who were unaware of the illness for years. In fact the latency period for HIV is about 7-8 years, which means you can have the illness and be infectious without showing any symptoms/signs of being ill. It is sad when families and children are affected by the illness - a lot of the stories i hear about involves one partner cheating on the other.
As swingers, we have the oppotunity to show an example. We are not cheaters, we are open about our sexuality and play safely for the good of all.
I am fortunate to look after ill patients as my job since i was a medical student, it is satisfying to treat people, but when it comes to serious life long illnesses, there is a lot of regret and sadness. Most people will form opinions on barebacking and other sexual topics without having met someone with HIV (or related illness) mainly because of the stigma association. My advice is to play safe, a condom is probably the best way to happu swinging and peace of mind!
My advice is play |
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I do bareback because its my choice. I don't force people to do it. It's a personal choice. And there are many MANY men and couples on here who make a point of protection only, some I have even seen commenting in threads like this, who PM that they would love a meet.
I take risks day in day out in life from crossing a road to walking through long grass in the park. You never know what might happen, and going bareback is just another risk
like smoking and drinking is, but it's a risk that were prepared to take for pleasure. |
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"I do bareback because its my choice. I don't force people to do it. It's a personal choice. And there are many MANY men and couples on here who make a point of protection only, some I have even seen commenting in threads like this, who PM that they would love a meet.
I take risks day in day out in life from crossing a road to walking through long grass in the park. You never know what might happen, and going bareback is just another risk
like smoking and drinking is, but it's a risk that were prepared to take for pleasure. "
I can understand why people would like bareback,however the risks you take can also be risks to others. I am sure you wouldnt want to harm other fellow swingers by carrying an infection you are not aware of yourself. |
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If the other person is aware, and accepts that risk, then whilst it may not be mosts idea of wisdom it is their choice to make
Many on here smoke, which statistically is far more likely to kill than going bareback, the attitude to risk is one every individual has to decide for themselves |
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"I do bareback because its my choice. I don't force people to do it. It's a personal choice. And there are many MANY men and couples on here who make a point of protection only, some I have even seen commenting in threads like this, who PM that they would love a meet.
I take risks day in day out in life from crossing a road to walking through long grass in the park. You never know what might happen, and going bareback is just another risk
like smoking and drinking is, but it's a risk that were prepared to take for pleasure.
I can understand why people would like bareback,however the risks you take can also be risks to others. I am sure you wouldnt want to harm other fellow swingers by carrying an infection you are not aware of yourself. "
That's why we want bareback swingers who are also aware of the risks. It's obvious from our profile what we are after, this has only been decided recently, so it means we shouldn't come into contact with safe sex people, anyone who chooses to play, run the risk, just like we do.
There are far worse things in life to worry about que sera, sera. |
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"I do bareback because its my choice. I don't force people to do it. It's a personal choice. And there are many MANY men and couples on here who make a point of protection only, some I have even seen commenting in threads like this, who PM that they would love a meet.
I take risks day in day out in life from crossing a road to walking through long grass in the park. You never know what might happen, and going bareback is just another risk
like smoking and drinking is, but it's a risk that were prepared to take for pleasure.
I can understand why people would like bareback,however the risks you take can also be risks to others. I am sure you wouldnt want to harm other fellow swingers by carrying an infection you are not aware of yourself. "
If they say they prefer bareback and people contact them knowing that - where's the problem? They're not holding a gun to anyone's head are they?!!
What consenting adults do is of no concern to me - I assume everyone I meet barebacks and act accordingly! |
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"I do bareback because its my choice. I don't force people to do it. It's a personal choice. And there are many MANY men and couples on here who make a point of protection only, some I have even seen commenting in threads like this, who PM that they would love a meet.
I take risks day in day out in life from crossing a road to walking through long grass in the park. You never know what might happen, and going bareback is just another risk
like smoking and drinking is, but it's a risk that were prepared to take for pleasure.
I can understand why people would like bareback,however the risks you take can also be risks to others. I am sure you wouldnt want to harm other fellow swingers by carrying an infection you are not aware of yourself.
That's why we want bareback swingers who are also aware of the risks. It's obvious from our profile what we are after, this has only been decided recently, so it means we shouldn't come into contact with safe sex people, anyone who chooses to play, run the risk, just like we do.
There are far worse things in life to worry about que sera, sera."
I can assure you that risking your life to HIV or related illness is not something to take lightly. Barebacking increases the chance of spreading infections to other swingers and non swingers. Ultimately, from my experiences of treating patients, it is often those who are innocent that suffer. It is not what you know, but what you dont know that really strikes those who least expect it. Someone you may be barebacking with could potentially spread an infection elsewhere or through a relationship or short encounter - it is perhaps more to with with consideration for others if you are aware of the risks.
I am sure nobody would want to indirectly infect someone else unknowingly...
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Of course people barebacking are risking their life, smoking risks your life, drinking daily risks your life, being overweight risks your life
Lots of things do, I don't do/ are any of the above but wouldn't criticise someone who chose to |
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I can assure you that risking your life to HIV or related illness is not something to take lightly. Barebacking increases the chance of spreading infections to other swingers and non swingers. Ultimately, from my experiences of treating patients, it is often those who are innocent that suffer. It is not what you know, but what you dont know that really strikes those who least expect it. Someone you may be barebacking with could potentially spread an infection elsewhere or through a relationship or short encounter - it is perhaps more to with with consideration for others if you are aware of the risks.
I am sure nobody would want to indirectly infect someone else unknowingly...
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"read Swingers vs Prostitutes in STD rates article in swingers chat forum, it will change your mind from doing barebacking, be safe, use protection "
Read it!
Just like I read the health warning on cig packs or drink responsibly information |
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over a year ago
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Let them bareback.
It is their choice.
Tis no skin off my nose.
I block;
Everyone admitting to it on here,
from their veri's and
their veri's veri's.
My choice.
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"Let them bareback.
It is their choice.
Tis no skin off my nose.
I block;
Everyone admitting to it on here,
from their veri's and
their veri's veri's.
My choice.
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"I do bareback because its my choice. I don't force people to do it. It's a personal choice. And there are many MANY men and couples on here who make a point of protection only, some I have even seen commenting in threads like this, who PM that they would love a meet.
I take risks day in day out in life from crossing a road to walking through long grass in the park. You never know what might happen, and going bareback is just another risk
like smoking and drinking is, but it's a risk that were prepared to take for pleasure. "
There are a lot that protest they only do safe, yet ask if they can fill me. So I wouldn't be so worried about those that admit it. |
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"I do bareback because its my choice. I don't force people to do it. It's a personal choice. And there are many MANY men and couples on here who make a point of protection only, some I have even seen commenting in threads like this, who PM that they would love a meet.
I take risks day in day out in life from crossing a road to walking through long grass in the park. You never know what might happen, and going bareback is just another risk
like smoking and drinking is, but it's a risk that were prepared to take for pleasure.
There are a lot that protest they only do safe, yet ask if they can fill me. So I wouldn't be so worried about those that admit it. "
As long as you know where you stand in terms of your own practices, don't stress about what other people are doing.
So what if people bareback, you're going to use protection anyway which is the whole point: to best protect yourself from people's previous sexual history.
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"I do bareback because its my choice. I don't force people to do it. It's a personal choice. And there are many MANY men and couples on here who make a point of protection only, some I have even seen commenting in threads like this, who PM that they would love a meet.
I take risks day in day out in life from crossing a road to walking through long grass in the park. You never know what might happen, and going bareback is just another risk
like smoking and drinking is, but it's a risk that were prepared to take for pleasure.
There are a lot that protest they only do safe, yet ask if they can fill me. So I wouldn't be so worried about those that admit it.
As long as you know where you stand in terms of your own practices, don't stress about what other people are doing.
So what if people bareback, you're going to use protection anyway which is the whole point: to best protect yourself from people's previous sexual history.
If people are really that worried, they should seriously reconsider this swinging lark! "
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the only zero risk is abstinence, and I maybe assuming here but I'm guessing for most on here abstinence isn't an option!"
Works for us!...
Joking aside, this is a serious subject..aparat from the fact that we lack a bit of confidence in ourselves/personal appearance getting a dose is the main reason we wont play..
There are three outcomes to getting a dose..
Having to get yourself sorted out with tablets, Being lumbered with this new super gonorrhea for the rest of you life..
Death..from AIDS.
As we dont swing we feel we can give a totally unbiased vied...and that is its down to everyone to take care of themselves, not the word of someone on a meet..they may not even know they are infected anyway..Ok so they get checked every 3,6,12 months...so what?..what about the all the meets they have had in the last 2 months and three weeks?..
On the other side of the coin...whats nice about having to use condoms and dental dams when having sex with someone..in case they have a dose??..would you do the same with someone who 'might' have TB, Measles or a stinking bout of flu?
They dont add to 'the moment' anyway..if anything they are a hindrance..so maybe thats why people do use them...not to plat Russian sex roulette...but to actually enjoy the pleasures of the flesh properly..
What the priority?..sex or not becoming infected?..take which is most important to you...and dont challenge others for their stance..its their life...let them live it, or ruin it for themselves.
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Its often difficult to get the message across about HIV and related infections. Most people will not have met someone infected with the illness. From a medical perspective, if you take a risk barebacking nobody will stop you. However one must accept that if an infection is involved like HIV etc, then you will probablyy go onto risking others with the same type of behaviour. I had to study this at medical school and epidemiology-disease pathology. If one decides to bareback then they will have to accept placing others at risk further down the line (as long as one is happy about this then its their own action and reasoning). That is how illnesses like HIV have spread across the world.
In regards to HIV, its good to hear that many are aware of the consequences. When i have treated patients on HAART, one thing i have noticed is how much more serious an illness it is to deal with. Many will have multiple complications with the heart, liver and nervous system. My worst patient was a PML patient who i had diagnosed after a brain MRI result - worst thing was having to tell them they had 7 days to live. Unfortunately the patient didnt understand what was going on and had no friends or family.
90% of the patients i have treated live alone deserted from family and friends due to stigma. It is mainly the choice of the sufferer and fear of disclosure, and it gets ever darker alone. Eventually most will die alone forgotten by everyone, having suffered from related complications. Of course the treatments are getting better but there is a permanent isolation. If your HIV status is then revealed to the community there are usually servere consequences ranging from physical abuse to murder (which happened last week in a london hospital i work at).
Sorry if this was a long one to read but i hope it sheds some more light on this topic. Im glad to bring some of my own experiences when disscussing these topics. |
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"read Swingers vs Prostitutes in STD rates article in swingers chat forum, it will change your mind from doing barebacking, be safe, use protection "
Do you honestly think people don't know the risks? This is not abstainance.com, it's a site where people meet for recreational sex with strangers...hell-ooo!!! |
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"read Swingers vs Prostitutes in STD rates article in swingers chat forum, it will change your mind from doing barebacking, be safe, use protection
Read it!
Just like I read the health warning on cig packs or drink responsibly information"
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"I do bareback because its my choice. I don't force people to do it. It's a personal choice. And there are many MANY men and couples on here who make a point of protection only, some I have even seen commenting in threads like this, who PM that they would love a meet.
I take risks day in day out in life from crossing a road to walking through long grass in the park. You never know what might happen, and going bareback is just another risk
like smoking and drinking is, but it's a risk that were prepared to take for pleasure.
There are a lot that protest they only do safe, yet ask if they can fill me. So I wouldn't be so worried about those that admit it.
As long as you know where you stand in terms of your own practices, don't stress about what other people are doing.
So what if people bareback, you're going to use protection anyway which is the whole point: to best protect yourself from people's previous sexual history.
If people are really that worried, they should seriously reconsider this swinging lark! "
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"The biggest problem with this subject on here is that it always ends up with some of the avid condom users insulting those who choose not to.
It might make a change to debate how best to reduce risks while still getting what you want the way you want.
If the self-righteous didn't condemn people who prefer bare-back then people could be more honest. I don't mean to make any excuse for those who bend the truth on the subject but essentially they are forced to, to avoid abuse! Hence creating one of the key things they complain about.
On another site we use the profiles have tick boxes which include 'safe-sex' AND 'prefer bare-back', it might surprise some of you when I tell you loads of people tick both.
While some folks will have very fixed opinions about it, most others just call it freedom of choice."
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