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Exploring Equality and Representation: Challenges Faced by Asian Males?
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By *marty300 OP Man 33 weeks ago
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"Hey everyone! As a single Asian male on this platform, I've noticed that there seems to be a disparity in opportunities and attention compared to other racial groups. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this and understand the reasons behind it. Let's have an open discussion and work towards a more inclusive and equal experience for everyone. #Equality #DiversityMatters"
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I think that *some* people hold a stereotypical view of certain ethnicities (not just Asian) and there is very little that can be done to change that on a swingers site.
I think the site is pretty diverse since anyone over 18 can join.
I'm not sure how you'd increase opportunities for Asian men since many single guys of every ethnicity complain that they have no luck. |
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We can't be everyone's cup of tea OP, it's as simple as that. A bit like Marmite meaning that some people may like you very much and other people may dislike you. Matter of choice.
I've personally not encountered any issue(s) other than seeing some profiles categorically stating "no Asians" on their profile which is cool by me, and just means I avoid them like you would a bubonic plague.
My issue is role playing the SLUT, not everyone likes a guy dolling up to indulge in whorish activities. That's also cool by me, because there's others who do like me for me. So it's all good.
I very much hope you enjoy the site and meet plenty lovely peeps (they're definitely out there).
Best wishes.
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""Hey everyone! As a single Asian male on this platform, I've noticed that there seems to be a disparity in opportunities and attention compared to other racial groups. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this and understand the reasons behind it. Let's have an open discussion and work towards a more inclusive and equal experience for everyone. #Equality #DiversityMatters"
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Ultimately, you can't make people attracted to someone that they're not. It's completely irrelevant whether they are wrong in their views, or if their views are racist... they still only fancy what they fancy.
The best option is to ignore those who won't want to meet you and concentrate your efforts on those who would want to meet you.
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By *marty300 OP Man 33 weeks ago
Macclesfield |
"I think that *some* people hold a stereotypical view of certain ethnicities (not just Asian) and there is very little that can be done to change that on a swingers site.
I think the site is pretty diverse since anyone over 18 can join.
I'm not sure how you'd increase opportunities for Asian men since many single guys of every ethnicity complain that they have no luck. "
That's true every single man is struggling but I have posted this due to what I have discovered from last couple of week |
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By *marty300 OP Man 33 weeks ago
Macclesfield |
"We can't be everyone's cup of tea OP, it's as simple as that. A bit like Marmite meaning that some people may like you very much and other people may dislike you. Matter of choice.
I've personally not encountered any issue(s) other than seeing some profiles categorically stating "no Asians" on their profile which is cool by me, and just means I avoid them like you would a bubonic plague.
My issue is role playing the SLUT, not everyone likes a guy dolling up to indulge in whorish activities. That's also cool by me, because there's others who do like me for me. So it's all good.
I very much hope you enjoy the site and meet plenty lovely peeps (they're definitely out there).
Best wishes.
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Totally agreed I am not judging anyone by there preferences I am talking about their behaviour, rudeness and their racist comments even if you don't asked for meet. Am I ok if someone says they doesn't want to meet Asian it's totally fine they've there own preferences but this doesn't mean that someone swears or put some racist comments in inbox |
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By *marty300 OP Man 33 weeks ago
Macclesfield |
""Hey everyone! As a single Asian male on this platform, I've noticed that there seems to be a disparity in opportunities and attention compared to other racial groups. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this and understand the reasons behind it. Let's have an open discussion and work towards a more inclusive and equal experience for everyone. #Equality #DiversityMatters"
Ultimately, you can't make people attracted to someone that they're not. It's completely irrelevant whether they are wrong in their views, or if their views are racist... they still only fancy what they fancy.
The best option is to ignore those who won't want to meet you and concentrate your efforts on those who would want to meet you.
Cal"
Great advice. This world got people like you. Bless you |
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"I think that *some* people hold a stereotypical view of certain ethnicities (not just Asian) and there is very little that can be done to change that on a swingers site.
I think the site is pretty diverse since anyone over 18 can join.
I'm not sure how you'd increase opportunities for Asian men since many single guys of every ethnicity complain that they have no luck.
That's true every single man is struggling but I have posted this due to what I have discovered from last couple of week "
You've experienced racism? If it's in private messages report it. |
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""Hey everyone! As a single Asian male on this platform, I've noticed that there seems to be a disparity in opportunities and attention compared to other racial groups. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this and understand the reasons behind it. Let's have an open discussion and work towards a more inclusive and equal experience for everyone. #Equality #DiversityMatters"
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Not comfortable with your comments attributing equality and diversity to swinging. Everyone has personal preferences relating to attraction and equality and diversity doesn't come into that equation, nor should it.
Personal attraction can't be influenced by someone forcing you to be someone you're not or changing your preferences to meet an agenda of inclusivity.
Wrong platform to suggest equality and diversity, sorry. |
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People have preferences.
Are some attributable to some deep rooted racism? Sure. But attraction is attraction. And if someone doesn't fancy someone, no amount of ethical diversity training is going to make them obliged to sleep with someone they're not attracted to.
Unfortunately attraction isn't rooted in any kind of fairness. Nobody is entitled to a set percentage of people to find them attractive in the name of fairness. It just is.
It does suck that it can just be an opening to racial abuse from assholes. I appreciate the privileges I have as a white woman. |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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""Hey everyone! As a single Asian male on this platform, I've noticed that there seems to be a disparity in opportunities and attention compared to other racial groups. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this and understand the reasons behind it. Let's have an open discussion and work towards a more inclusive and equal experience for everyone. #Equality #DiversityMatters"
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You shouldn’t get abuse and that should be the same for everyone regardless of their race, sex, gender expression, et al. That’s the equality you should strive for.
Equally being seen and treated as a human. I can’t see how you can seek equality in opportunities presented or being made available to you. You’re either someone’s type or you aren’t. |
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By *marty300 OP Man 33 weeks ago
Macclesfield |
"I think that *some* people hold a stereotypical view of certain ethnicities (not just Asian) and there is very little that can be done to change that on a swingers site.
I think the site is pretty diverse since anyone over 18 can join.
I'm not sure how you'd increase opportunities for Asian men since many single guys of every ethnicity complain that they have no luck.
That's true every single man is struggling but I have posted this due to what I have discovered from last couple of week
You've experienced racism? If it's in private messages report it. "
I think there are bad peoples everywhere. Best way is to ignore those |
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"I think that *some* people hold a stereotypical view of certain ethnicities (not just Asian) and there is very little that can be done to change that on a swingers site.
I think the site is pretty diverse since anyone over 18 can join.
I'm not sure how you'd increase opportunities for Asian men since many single guys of every ethnicity complain that they have no luck.
That's true every single man is struggling but I have posted this due to what I have discovered from last couple of week
You've experienced racism? If it's in private messages report it.
I think there are bad peoples everywhere. Best way is to ignore those "
So why make this post about it if you feel it’s best dealt with by ignoring it? |
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By *marty300 OP Man 33 weeks ago
Macclesfield |
""Hey everyone! As a single Asian male on this platform, I've noticed that there seems to be a disparity in opportunities and attention compared to other racial groups. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this and understand the reasons behind it. Let's have an open discussion and work towards a more inclusive and equal experience for everyone. #Equality #DiversityMatters"
Not comfortable with your comments attributing equality and diversity to swinging. Everyone has personal preferences relating to attraction and equality and diversity doesn't come into that equation, nor should it.
Personal attraction can't be influenced by someone forcing you to be someone you're not or changing your preferences to meet an agenda of inclusivity.
Wrong platform to suggest equality and diversity, sorry."
I think I just write it in a wrong way. I am not talking about people personal performance that's everyone right but you can't degraded someone by it's background |
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By *marty300 OP Man 33 weeks ago
Macclesfield |
"I think that *some* people hold a stereotypical view of certain ethnicities (not just Asian) and there is very little that can be done to change that on a swingers site.
I think the site is pretty diverse since anyone over 18 can join.
I'm not sure how you'd increase opportunities for Asian men since many single guys of every ethnicity complain that they have no luck.
That's true every single man is struggling but I have posted this due to what I have discovered from last couple of week
You've experienced racism? If it's in private messages report it.
I think there are bad peoples everywhere. Best way is to ignore those
So why make this post about it if you feel it’s best dealt with by ignoring it? "
Don't know just came in my mind to get everyone on board |
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By *marty300 OP Man 33 weeks ago
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"People have preferences.
Are some attributable to some deep rooted racism? Sure. But attraction is attraction. And if someone doesn't fancy someone, no amount of ethical diversity training is going to make them obliged to sleep with someone they're not attracted to.
Unfortunately attraction isn't rooted in any kind of fairness. Nobody is entitled to a set percentage of people to find them attractive in the name of fairness. It just is.
It does suck that it can just be an opening to racial abuse from assholes. I appreciate the privileges I have as a white woman."
100% agreed with you |
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By (user no longer on site) 33 weeks ago
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Just to echo what most people have said here. 99% of the time it’s really down to personal preference. We all have different definitions of what sexual attraction means. I know I have a particular type i tend to seek out when looking for playmates and it works both ways. I can also be very picky so no reason why others wouldn’t be the same. It’s never personal.
I’m sure just like most facets of society there’s the occasional racist or bigot on this site but as someone who’s mixed race myself and I’m yet to experience anything of the sort. |
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By *hino96Man 29 weeks ago
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Asian men fall right at the bottom of the food chain. It's really shit! I've experienced a few racist made towards myself over the year's. Its extremely difficult to meet anyone directly off this site. I believe I'd have more luck if i was white or Black |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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"We can't be everyone's cup of tea OP, it's as simple as that. A bit like Marmite meaning that some people may like you very much and other people may dislike you. Matter of choice.
I've personally not encountered any issue(s) other than seeing some profiles categorically stating "no Asians" on their profile which is cool by me, and just means I avoid them like you would a bubonic plague.
My issue is role playing the SLUT, not everyone likes a guy dolling up to indulge in whorish activities. That's also cool by me, because there's others who do like me for me. So it's all good.
I very much hope you enjoy the site and meet plenty lovely peeps (they're definitely out there).
Best wishes.
Totally agreed I am not judging anyone by there preferences I am talking about their behaviour, rudeness and their racist comments even if you don't asked for meet. Am I ok if someone says they doesn't want to meet Asian it's totally fine they've there own preferences but this doesn't mean that someone swears or put some racist comments in inbox "
"Don't worry about the haters...They are just angry because the truth you speak contradicts the lie they live." |
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Your expectations are wrong about getting meets on here, just because people are swingers it does not mean they will just let you shag them.
Most single male profiles struggle, in fact even couples struggle.
Only ones who don't struggle are single females. |
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I disagree with the stereotyping. I have had quite a few conversations recently and only logistics are the barrier. What did I change, my effort in the initial message, understanding how to approach based on profile and avoiding any that have racial hang ups on their profiles which I know I'd be wasting my time on. Be selective on who you approach, make an effort, leave it open for a response without expectations and believe in your worth. Rewards will follow no doubting that. Your beliefs change your reality |
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By *nj6969Couple 29 weeks ago
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If found attractive we would meet or chat.
We are not attracted to everyone and colour of skin is irrelevant in this.
But if Asian looks are not our thing we wouldn't look for them or if red heads are what we wanted we would look for them.
It's not about race it's about what attracts us, it's nothing more than that xxx |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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How often do you see Asian males in porn ?
Strong white and black males both with equally VWE cocks, as for women you see all including lots of Asian women
Could this be effecting subconscious? |
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If someone has been racist or abusive, report it, irrespective of the nature of abuse.
We should all promote respectfulness.
The only awareness you are generating from this thread is that no one (or very few) want to meet men of certain ethnicity, surely that cannot be good publicity, this will almost certainly make more people not want to meet them.
Example is the best sermon we can all preach, get out there, socialise, improve the profile and help change the stereotypes, ranting on a forum will 100% make things worse.
And we know plenty of successful men on fab from all ethnicities (yours included). While some people do have preferences (we do too), it really does boils down to individuals and their personalities. |
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""Hey everyone! As a single Asian male on this platform, I've noticed that there seems to be a disparity in opportunities and attention compared to other racial groups. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this and understand the reasons behind it. Let's have an open discussion and work towards a more inclusive and equal experience for everyone. #Equality #DiversityMatters"
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1. Personal preference.
2. Freedom of choice.
But nobody should ever be subjected to any kind of abuse. |
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"Your expectations are wrong about getting meets on here, just because people are swingers it does not mean they will just let you shag them.
Most single male profiles struggle, in fact even couples struggle.
Only ones who don't struggle are single females."
Single females struggle in a different way- too many people want to meet, yet shifting through all the messages is hard work. Particularly if most have made no effort at all and/or did not even bother reading profile. Hence I only meet in clubs nowadays, by chance.
Back to the OP- you are a single man in an ocean of single men. Your ethnicity shouldn't have anything to do with how many "opportunities" you get via this site. Have you made any effort to help yourself? Any clubs or organised socials you went to (I have to admit, I did not check your profile)? This place is best for keeping in touch with people you have already met rather than setting up new meets. |
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By *marty300 OP Man 29 weeks ago
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"Your expectations are wrong about getting meets on here, just because people are swingers it does not mean they will just let you shag them.
Most single male profiles struggle, in fact even couples struggle.
Only ones who don't struggle are single females.
Single females struggle in a different way- too many people want to meet, yet shifting through all the messages is hard work. Particularly if most have made no effort at all and/or did not even bother reading profile. Hence I only meet in clubs nowadays, by chance.
Back to the OP- you are a single man in an ocean of single men. Your ethnicity shouldn't have anything to do with how many "opportunities" you get via this site. Have you made any effort to help yourself? Any clubs or organised socials you went to (I have to admit, I did not check your profile)? This place is best for keeping in touch with people you have already met rather than setting up new meets. "
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"People have preferences.
Are some attributable to some deep rooted racism? Sure. But attraction is attraction. And if someone doesn't fancy someone, no amount of ethical diversity training is going to make them obliged to sleep with someone they're not attracted to.
Unfortunately attraction isn't rooted in any kind of fairness. Nobody is entitled to a set percentage of people to find them attractive in the name of fairness. It just is.
It does suck that it can just be an opening to racial abuse from assholes. I appreciate the privileges I have as a white woman."
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Built and Shape take priority if you want initial chance, second comes the communication- then comes your size and stamina, all these are important things for someone to feel attracted towards you and can keep you in the favourite list. Make a peace with you as being Asian you have a last chance in swinging game in UK, and I can say for sure it’s just UK. I lived and played in many countries in NA and SA, can tell you that Asians, especially Indians are loved everywhere, it is due to their high profile lifestyle, education and over and above wider public appreciation for them. UK swinging scene is radically different and tilted towards whites and blacks( male ). Again, make a peace with yourself, work on the things I said above. You will be good, but don’t raise your expectation too much, just think you will find your fair share but not Euromillion lottery in this lifestyle. |
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Another way to find more open minded people is to go and attend socials and munches, just search the term. I found there people are more open to engage with Asian, especially Indian males. Just don’t be shy, approach everyone with politeness. In munches, your built and shapes don’t matter but how you are as human. So, the definition of attraction is different in munches. |
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I'm not a Statistician, but believe me when I say that young Asian guys have got a lot better chance of meeting someone on fab than a white middle age 50+ guy. I'm a man of the world, I don't feel entitled, I don't moan about it. Just get on with it and stop trying to get a sympathy vote.
The world loves us all, it just doesn't want to fuck us all. |
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By *oxy jWoman 25 weeks ago
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i think you should stop worrying about those that dont want to meet you and just look for those who do .... there are plenty of us who dont see skin colour but there still needs to be sexual attraction as with any guy ...i do also think that alot of asian guys are blaming there skin colour rather than the fact its just super hard for all men most men dont get alook in because of the sheer numbers..
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By *oxy jWoman 25 weeks ago
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"Us Asian guys fall at the bottom end of the spectrum. It's shit..."
it dont take alot of maths to work out the real problem and that is quite simply that men in general find it very hard thats nobody fault as such its just the way life is ...
finding sexual attraction for a woman is hard after all at the very least there should be sexual attraction so for every woman that means 99.99% of guys they are not interested then add in how few women / couples there really are ie take out many as fake accounts run by guys ....
theres one thing thats so true on this scene and that is no one likes negativity its a turn off i honestly believe its not your skin colour its because your a man full stop...
and yes i know there are some who put no asians but at least you can avoid them |
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How people react to situations defines a person and how they get viewed.
If you find it hard online because of your ethnicity then meet people at socials or clubs and be seen that way to get your personality across.
We all have preferences so unless you can change someone’s mind through connecting on a different level then you’ll always see your ethnicity as the problem.
I would use problems as a way to work out how to overcome them, not to let it define me.
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""Hey everyone! As a single Asian male on this platform, I've noticed that there seems to be a disparity in opportunities and attention compared to other racial groups. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this and understand the reasons behind it. Let's have an open discussion and work towards a more inclusive and equal experience for everyone. #Equality #DiversityMatters"
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The tone of this is mad. It reads like an email from HR.
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"How people react to situations defines a person and how they get viewed.
If you find it hard online because of your ethnicity then meet people at socials or clubs and be seen that way to get your personality across.
We all have preferences so unless you can change someone’s mind through connecting on a different level then you’ll always see your ethnicity as the problem.
I would use problems as a way to work out how to overcome them, not to let it define me.
K"
This is the worst advice I’ve ever read. It’s not any minorities responsibility to “change someone’s mind”. If someone doesn’t like you because of your ethnicity, then your personality isn’t going to make a difference.
Personally, I’m not gonna beg or bend over backwards to try and please someone that’s prejudiced.
(I’m not Asian, but a different minority). |
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"How people react to situations defines a person and how they get viewed.
If you find it hard online because of your ethnicity then meet people at socials or clubs and be seen that way to get your personality across.
We all have preferences so unless you can change someone’s mind through connecting on a different level then you’ll always see your ethnicity as the problem.
I would use problems as a way to work out how to overcome them, not to let it define me.
K
This is the worst advice I’ve ever read. It’s not any minorities responsibility to “change someone’s mind”. If someone doesn’t like you because of your ethnicity, then your personality isn’t going to make a difference.
Personally, I’m not gonna beg or bend over backwards to try and please someone that’s prejudiced.
(I’m not Asian, but a different minority)."
The worst advice you’ve ever read  What a strange response! Also don’t get offended on behalf of someone else!
I think you need to re-read what I put.
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"How people react to situations defines a person and how they get viewed.
If you find it hard online because of your ethnicity then meet people at socials or clubs and be seen that way to get your personality across.
We all have preferences so unless you can change someone’s mind through connecting on a different level then you’ll always see your ethnicity as the problem.
I would use problems as a way to work out how to overcome them, not to let it define me.
K
This is the worst advice I’ve ever read. It’s not any minorities responsibility to “change someone’s mind”. If someone doesn’t like you because of your ethnicity, then your personality isn’t going to make a difference.
Personally, I’m not gonna beg or bend over backwards to try and please someone that’s prejudiced.
(I’m not Asian, but a different minority).
The worst advice you’ve ever read What a strange response! Also don’t get offended on behalf of someone else!
I think you need to re-read what I put.
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Who said I’m offended on behalf of someone else? I’m offended on behalf of myself.
Yeah the answer to someone being racist is to you is to get a better personality. Sure. |
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"How people react to situations defines a person and how they get viewed.
If you find it hard online because of your ethnicity then meet people at socials or clubs and be seen that way to get your personality across.
We all have preferences so unless you can change someone’s mind through connecting on a different level then you’ll always see your ethnicity as the problem.
I would use problems as a way to work out how to overcome them, not to let it define me.
K
This is the worst advice I’ve ever read. It’s not any minorities responsibility to “change someone’s mind”. If someone doesn’t like you because of your ethnicity, then your personality isn’t going to make a difference.
Personally, I’m not gonna beg or bend over backwards to try and please someone that’s prejudiced.
(I’m not Asian, but a different minority).
The worst advice you’ve ever read What a strange response! Also don’t get offended on behalf of someone else!
I think you need to re-read what I put.
Who said I’m offended on behalf of someone else? I’m offended on behalf of myself.
Yeah the answer to someone being racist is to you is to get a better personality. Sure."
Ok, clearly someone is trying to twist what I said to make it offensive…
I said…
If you find it hard online because of your ethnicity then meet people at socials or clubs and be seen that way to get your personality across.
That advice can be given to people of any ethnicity, age, whether they are shy or feel they don’t come across well online
Simple really - enjoy your day
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Indians - you are not asked to run a business or economy here, no one knows your metal- it’s sex - so take your shirt off and see yourselves in the mirror - if you feel confident in your body and attitude, you will have your chances in this lifestyle - if you don’t feel either then work on it..there is always someone who would like to play with you - just be patient and work on skills and body. Remember when 70/80/90/ porn were forming the Mindset of wider population across the globe, you lot were busy in academics, now you want to enjoy open lifestyle, then work on it..thats the only way you can make connections..and definitely socials are the best way to show yourselves and make your presence felt, because of missed opportunity in appearing porn movies and forming an attraction for yourselves across various races - a simple advice from a fellow British Indian. |
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