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"I can spot them a mile away so they don't bother me at all so they can lie all they want. " Yeah? | |||
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"people lie about all sorts of things. maybe they think its nobody elses buisness if they are only looking for sex and not a relationship. if they read the forums they will know how many people dont like cheaters, so you cant blame them for saying they are single. one man i met said he was divorced he liked to tell me about his kids. when i looked at his profile again i noticed it said he was attached. then a year later i heard from him again he was living in another country and his profile said he was married. if i was a man and thought i could have my cake and eat it too, i probably would. if a man is a good husband in other ways then i could accept them cheating on me, what you dont know about doesnt hurt you." No... but their wife turning up with a baseball bat could. | |||
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"Threads like this bring out the people who hate married men with a passion. That sort of reaction causes said married men mot to be open about the fact that they are married because they get abuse for it. Why people can't butt out Of stranger's relationships I have no idea. " true, none of us is perfect. though we like to think we are. | |||
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"Threads like this bring out the people who hate married men with a passion. That sort of reaction causes said married men mot to be open about the fact that they are married because they get abuse for it. Why people can't butt out Of stranger's relationships I have no idea. " Because it's a subject on a forum? | |||
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"If someone is happy to tell great big fat whopping lies to the person they *cough* love.... why on earth would a potential shag command any greater degree of respect from them." Absolutely on the nail xx | |||
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"I personally think they should be open and honest. I wouldn't knowingly meet a married guy, but i wouldn't jack hammer moral rights down his throat either. What HE/SHE do in their spare time is their business not ours to judge !!" | |||
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"Threads like this bring out the people who hate married men with a passion. That sort of reaction causes said married men mot to be open about the fact that they are married because they get abuse for it. Why people can't butt out Of stranger's relationships I have no idea. Because it's a subject on a forum?" Discussing a subject is fine but you and I have both seen some pretty nasty comments thrown at men (rarely the women) who admit to being married on here. | |||
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"I personally think they should be open and honest. I wouldn't knowingly meet a married guy, but i wouldn't jack hammer moral rights down his throat either. What HE/SHE do in their spare time is their business not ours to judge !!" Knowing that you wouldn't meet a married man is all the incentive one needs to now tell you he is single | |||
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"I just assume they are all married and go from there.. " A good plan to have as I once chatted to a guy with can accommodate on his profile only to find out that he was married, still living with his wife and accommodates when she is not there | |||
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"When I was playing without my girlfriend's knowledge the first line of my profile said that I'm attached and my girlfriend didn't know I was on here. I used to get quite a few messages saying it was refreshingly honest and it led to meeting people who wouldn't usually meet attached men, because I was totally open about it. My advice for attached men on here without their other half's knowledge is be open about it. It's usually going to quickly become obvious anyway and being open about it can actually make you stand out from the crowd. " And means that those of us who are not interested don't waste time on the profile | |||
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" I used to get quite a few messages saying it was refreshingly honest and it led to meeting people who wouldn't usually meet attached men, because I was totally open about it. . " Yes but your pics might have just helped persuade them a bit... | |||
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"I can spot them a mile away so they don't bother me at all so they can lie all they want. Yeah? " Yes! Hardly need to be Miss Marple, especially the way I play. Hard to explain to a wife where your pubes have disappeared to, why you have a "property off..." temporary tattoo on your arse, wax in your chest hair etc. They can lie to their wives all they like and think they're slick. Funny how the fess up when I say what's in store. | |||
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" I used to get quite a few messages saying it was refreshingly honest and it led to meeting people who wouldn't usually meet attached men, because I was totally open about it. . Yes but your pics might have just helped persuade them a bit... " | |||
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"Threads like this bring out the people who hate married men with a passion. That sort of reaction causes said married men mot to be open about the fact that they are married because they get abuse for it. Why people can't butt out Of stranger's relationships I have no idea. " Ah ha, saves me typing...Thanks. | |||
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"Threads like this bring out the people who hate married men with a passion. That sort of reaction causes said married men mot to be open about the fact that they are married because they get abuse for it. Why people can't butt out Of stranger's relationships I have no idea. " I could care less about married men being on here: I just don't want to meet them! Some respect that, I have a feeling it's those that are basically decent blokes in sexless marriages, others don't and want to brow beat you into meeting them, probably the I want my cake and eat it too brigade, that's how I look at it. I'm here for my own hedonistic pleasure, married men just don't fulfil that for me, I have played with them in the past. When one man bought me shower gel to use before we played, as it was his wife's own make and she'd expect him to smell of it, he couldn't take the chance of my smell lingering on him, I knew that was it! | |||
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" I used to get quite a few messages saying it was refreshingly honest and it led to meeting people who wouldn't usually meet attached men, because I was totally open about it. . Yes but your pics might have just helped persuade them a bit... " Think it would persuade some a LOT!!! | |||
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"people lie about all sorts of things. maybe they think its nobody elses buisness if they are only looking for sex and not a relationship. if they read the forums they will know how many people dont like cheaters, so you cant blame them for saying they are single. one man i met said he was divorced he liked to tell me about his kids. when i looked at his profile again i noticed it said he was attached. then a year later i heard from him again he was living in another country and his profile said he was married. if i was a man and thought i could have my cake and eat it too, i probably would. if a man is a good husband in other ways then i could accept them cheating on me, what you dont know about doesnt hurt you. No... but their wife turning up with a baseball bat could." That's the main reason we're reluctant to meet single guys. You're never going to know 100% that they are unattached. For us swinging is a fun aspect of our lives and just wouldn't want the drama | |||
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" aint we all on here for shag fun not relationships " 100% agree. Therefore if being married inhibits MY fun I don't see why "no married men" is not acceptable to some! | |||
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"Threads like this bring out the people who hate married men with a passion. That sort of reaction causes said married men mot to be open about the fact that they are married because they get abuse for it. Why people can't butt out Of stranger's relationships I have no idea. Because it's a subject on a forum? Discussing a subject is fine but you and I have both seen some pretty nasty comments thrown at men (rarely the women) who admit to being married on here." True but a significant part of that is simply down to the fact cheating women rarely start threads seeking vindication and/or bemoaning their lack of meets. The married men that get vilified more often than not bring it on themselves. | |||
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"Welcome to the internet, where i assume EVERYONE is being economical with the truth unless proven otherwise, female and male alike." Lol, ain't that the truth! Although I have to say that pretty much everything we say is the truth but there are certain things we just won't tell you. | |||
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"Threads like this bring out the people who hate married men with a passion. That sort of reaction causes said married men mot to be open about the fact that they are married because they get abuse for it. Why people can't butt out Of stranger's relationships I have no idea. Because it's a subject on a forum? Discussing a subject is fine but you and I have both seen some pretty nasty comments thrown at men (rarely the women) who admit to being married on here. True but a significant part of that is simply down to the fact cheating women rarely start threads seeking vindication and/or bemoaning their lack of meets. The married men that get vilified more often than not bring it on themselves." . No but you often see women mention in a thread that they are attached or married, usually with very little response. It's rarely the same level of response when an attached or married guy mentions it. | |||
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" I used to get quite a few messages saying it was refreshingly honest and it led to meeting people who wouldn't usually meet attached men, because I was totally open about it. . Yes but your pics might have just helped persuade them a bit... Think it would persuade some a LOT!!! " Agree!! Those pics would make it pretty impossible to argue with anything I think!! Lol x | |||
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"When I was playing without my girlfriend's knowledge the first line of my profile said that I'm attached and my girlfriend didn't know I was on here. I used to get quite a few messages saying it was refreshingly honest and it led to meeting people who wouldn't usually meet attached men, because I was totally open about it. My advice for attached men on here without their other half's knowledge is be open about it. It's usually going to quickly become obvious anyway and being open about it can actually make you stand out from the crowd. " Stop making me perv at your pics! | |||
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"Well said that's what got the world like it is today to meny people passing judgment on others ,maybe they should look at there own faults first ,live and let live that's what I say " So you've never judged anyone ever? | |||
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"Well said that's what got the world like it is today to meny people passing judgment on others ,maybe they should look at there own faults first ,live and let live that's what I say So you've never judged anyone ever? " True my friends, everyone does to some degree, but surely when the people who are judged, aren't necessarily impacting on you personally then maybe sharing an indifferent approach is best ? I'm not trying to alter anyone's opinion, but life has taught me that those that think they know so much about things are generally those who know the least. Best of luck to everyone for whatever reason they are on here. I haven't pestered anyone, been abusive, cried that its unfair or can't get meets, I simply declare who I am then go about my business. | |||
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" aint we all on here for shag fun not relationships 100% agree. Therefore if being married inhibits MY fun I don't see why "no married men" is not acceptable to some! " yh fun exactly.. not complications that can arise from intruding on others relationships.. as people have said.. noone should pass judgement on those who are married.. so i dont, i step back and pass no judgement on it being ok or not to.. i stay out of it full stop.. | |||
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"When I was playing without my girlfriend's knowledge the first line of my profile said that I'm attached and my girlfriend didn't know I was on here. I used to get quite a few messages saying it was refreshingly honest and it led to meeting people who wouldn't usually meet attached men, because I was totally open about it. My advice for attached men on here without their other half's knowledge is be open about it. It's usually going to quickly become obvious anyway and being open about it can actually make you stand out from the crowd. " Don't take this the wrong way but I don't think it was because you were 'refreshingly honest' that people were meeting you, it's because you're hot. Let's not get it twisted, some people will always make allowances for those they're sexually attracted to | |||
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"Threads like this bring out the people who hate married men with a passion. That sort of reaction causes said married men mot to be open about the fact that they are married because they get abuse for it. Why people can't butt out Of stranger's relationships I have no idea. " | |||
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"What if we reverse the fact a married man lies on his profile and assume that the married man then try to arrange meets. By the responses of the forums how many do you think would actually get a meet? I would say less than 1% You will then have the "single ladies" complain about where are all the decent single guys are. People lie on here because it give them a greater chance of getting a meet." Rubbish - if all the cheating men on here left today there isn;t a single woman that would find themselves struggling for meets such is the imbalance between males and females on here. And married men, with an inability to accomodate and restricted availability may or may not meet your definition of decent but they certainly meet may peoples definition of unreliable. | |||
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"What if we reverse the fact a married man lies on his profile and assume that the married man then try to arrange meets. By the responses of the forums how many do you think would actually get a meet? I would say less than 1% You will then have the "single ladies" complain about where are all the decent single guys are. People lie on here because it give them a greater chance of getting a meet. Rubbish - if all the cheating men on here left today there isn;t a single woman that would find themselves struggling for meets such is the imbalance between males and females on here. And married men, with an inability to accomodate and restricted availability may or may not meet your definition of decent but they certainly meet may peoples definition of unreliable. " Well I'm not going to cross contaminate threads, and you raise valid points, but the OP's thread asked why do they lie about status.. not lie in order to meet. The intersting fact is that not many of the other profiles have to reveal much about theirpersonal side other than what they cchoose to, thus protecting themselves from any judgements ? For instance, do people add previous criminalconvictions, if they are fdrug users, have they ever been abusive, do they earn a living etc etc. Ps this isnt a retort, I actually find many of your posts very balanced, its food for thought. | |||
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"I reckon a lot of single women here dont meet married men because they are looking for much more than a one off meet.... " Well I'm glad you said that.....its taken the heat off me for a bit ! | |||
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"I reckon a lot of single women here dont meet married men because they are looking for much more than a one off meet.... " I think you have a point there, some wont like it but i suspect its true in some cases. | |||
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"Reading this thread and the responses, you wonder why people lie? Because some seek to make pariahs out of others for their choices, that's why. " That's one reason but not the only one and I don't think that making other people responsible for one's lies is an excuse. Although I did lie to my Mum about going to an X rated film when I was 14 because I knew she would be angry....whose responsibility was that? | |||
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"What if we reverse the fact a married man lies on his profile and assume that the married man then try to arrange meets. By the responses of the forums how many do you think would actually get a meet? I would say less than 1% You will then have the "single ladies" complain about where are all the decent single guys are. People lie on here because it give them a greater chance of getting a meet. Rubbish - if all the cheating men on here left today there isn;t a single woman that would find themselves struggling for meets such is the imbalance between males and females on here. And married men, with an inability to accomodate and restricted availability may or may not meet your definition of decent but they certainly meet may peoples definition of unreliable. Well I'm not going to cross contaminate threads, and you raise valid points, but the OP's thread asked why do they lie about status.. not lie in order to meet. The intersting fact is that not many of the other profiles have to reveal much about theirpersonal side other than what they cchoose to, thus protecting themselves from any judgements ? For instance, do people add previous criminalconvictions, if they are fdrug users, have they ever been abusive, do they earn a living etc etc. Ps this isnt a retort, I actually find many of your posts very balanced, its food for thought. " And equally I'm not having a go at you. Your posts come across as questioning rather than pointless whinging. It comes down to numbers (and I've been on here as a single guy so speak from experience), single men are the least required and most over populated demographic on here. So you need to stand out and you need to eliminate as many potential pitfalls as possible. Being married is undoubtedly a pitfall so lying about status is in effect lying to get a meet as that is the ultimate purpose. | |||
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"I reckon a lot of single women here dont meet married men because they are looking for much more than a one off meet.... " Could i ask in what way are you thinking ? xx | |||
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"Threads like this bring out the people who hate married men with a passion. That sort of reaction causes said married men mot to be open about the fact that they are married because they get abuse for it. Why people can't butt out Of stranger's relationships I have no idea. " Thing is when a guy is married but doesn't say you aren't being given a choice about butting in or butting out cos as soon as you have sex with him you are involved in that relationship in some way! I don't knowingly meet cheats...that's my choice. If people want to cheat I want no involvement in their deceit. I wouldn't want it done to me and, maybe more selfishly, I don't want to be involved when she finds out and the shit hits the fan. I'm on here for fun, not to feel guilty for being a part of someone else's relationship break down - and yes I get that many will say there must have been issues for him (or her) to cheat, blah blah blah, but sort it with the person you love rather than humiliating your partner on here. That's my opinion and I don't really care if it offends the cheats or those that play with them as I won't be convinced to change my mind | |||
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"I reckon a lot of single women here dont meet married men because they are looking for much more than a one off meet.... Could i ask in what way are you thinking ? xx" A relationship... | |||
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"I just assume they are all married and go from there.. " Yet more discrimination against us genuine single men hehehehehehehehe | |||
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"I just assume they are all married and go from there.. Yet more discrimination against us genuine single men hehehehehehehehe " i assume alot of things about everyone and go from there.. whats wrong with that.. if your not what i assume then whats the problem.. hardly discrimination. i call it safety | |||
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"What if we reverse the fact a married man lies on his profile and assume that the married man then try to arrange meets. By the responses of the forums how many do you think would actually get a meet? I would say less than 1% You will then have the "single ladies" complain about where are all the decent single guys are. People lie on here because it give them a greater chance of getting a meet. Rubbish - if all the cheating men on here left today there isn;t a single woman that would find themselves struggling for meets such is the imbalance between males and females on here. And married men, with an inability to accomodate and restricted availability may or may not meet your definition of decent but they certainly meet may peoples definition of unreliable. Well I'm not going to cross contaminate threads, and you raise valid points, but the OP's thread asked why do they lie about status.. not lie in order to meet. The intersting fact is that not many of the other profiles have to reveal much about theirpersonal side other than what they cchoose to, thus protecting themselves from any judgements ? For instance, do people add previous criminalconvictions, if they are fdrug users, have they ever been abusive, do they earn a living etc etc. Ps this isnt a retort, I actually find many of your posts very balanced, its food for thought. And equally I'm not having a go at you. Your posts come across as questioning rather than pointless whinging. It comes down to numbers (and I've been on here as a single guy so speak from experience), single men are the least required and most over populated demographic on here. So you need to stand out and you need to eliminate as many potential pitfalls as possible. Being married is undoubtedly a pitfall so lying about status is in effect lying to get a meet as that is the ultimate purpose. " I accept your point ..shakes hand and doesn't take it personally. I came here because i lacked something in my life. I didn't wish to sweet talk women making promises and misleading people in order to enjoy physical passion and attraction then leave them feeling neglected. I assumed there may be people looking for simple no strings fun on a site like this...but its a lot more complex and daunting than many believe, hence the high turn around of users. And like another user said, there's a large percentage of people who never progress beyond the fantasy on here. | |||
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"What if we reverse the fact a married man lies on his profile and assume that the married man then try to arrange meets. By the responses of the forums how many do you think would actually get a meet? I would say less than 1% You will then have the "single ladies" complain about where are all the decent single guys are. People lie on here because it give them a greater chance of getting a meet. Rubbish - if all the cheating men on here left today there isn;t a single woman that would find themselves struggling for meets such is the imbalance between males and females on here. And married men, with an inability to accomodate and restricted availability may or may not meet your definition of decent but they certainly meet may peoples definition of unreliable. Well I'm not going to cross contaminate threads, and you raise valid points, but the OP's thread asked why do they lie about status.. not lie in order to meet. The intersting fact is that not many of the other profiles have to reveal much about theirpersonal side other than what they cchoose to, thus protecting themselves from any judgements ? For instance, do people add previous criminalconvictions, if they are fdrug users, have they ever been abusive, do they earn a living etc etc. Ps this isnt a retort, I actually find many of your posts very balanced, its food for thought. " but the fact is alot of people lie about their status to get meets.. same as they lie about being bi or lie about their age.. ive come across it alot where a guy is down as 25 but admits they are only 20 but most dont want guys that young so have lied.. and same goes for everything else.. including being a cheater.. so far form rubbish.. let me put it another way... some people lie as they think it will get them more meets.. oh and one huge example was i asked for a bi mmf and had 2 guys set up and then one guy admitted he wasnt bi but had lied just cos he wanted to get a meet.. | |||
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"What if we reverse the fact a married man lies on his profile and assume that the married man then try to arrange meets. By the responses of the forums how many do you think would actually get a meet? I would say less than 1% You will then have the "single ladies" complain about where are all the decent single guys are. People lie on here because it give them a greater chance of getting a meet. Rubbish - if all the cheating men on here left today there isn;t a single woman that would find themselves struggling for meets such is the imbalance between males and females on here. And married men, with an inability to accomodate and restricted availability may or may not meet your definition of decent but they certainly meet may peoples definition of unreliable. Well I'm not going to cross contaminate threads, and you raise valid points, but the OP's thread asked why do they lie about status.. not lie in order to meet. The intersting fact is that not many of the other profiles have to reveal much about theirpersonal side other than what they cchoose to, thus protecting themselves from any judgements ? For instance, do people add previous criminalconvictions, if they are fdrug users, have they ever been abusive, do they earn a living etc etc. Ps this isnt a retort, I actually find many of your posts very balanced, its food for thought. And equally I'm not having a go at you. Your posts come across as questioning rather than pointless whinging. It comes down to numbers (and I've been on here as a single guy so speak from experience), single men are the least required and most over populated demographic on here. So you need to stand out and you need to eliminate as many potential pitfalls as possible. Being married is undoubtedly a pitfall so lying about status is in effect lying to get a meet as that is the ultimate purpose. I accept your point ..shakes hand and doesn't take it personally. I came here because i lacked something in my life. I didn't wish to sweet talk women making promises and misleading people in order to enjoy physical passion and attraction then leave them feeling neglected. I assumed there may be people looking for simple no strings fun on a site like this...but its a lot more complex and daunting than many believe, hence the high turn around of users. And like another user said, there's a large percentage of people who never progress beyond the fantasy on here. " For what it's worth, being upfront is the better option because then, as someone else has already mentioned an informed decision can be made. Just don't try and sell yourself on your honesty as that always prompts a forum lynching! | |||
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"What if we reverse the fact a married man lies on his profile and assume that the married man then try to arrange meets. By the responses of the forums how many do you think would actually get a meet? I would say less than 1% You will then have the "single ladies" complain about where are all the decent single guys are. People lie on here because it give them a greater chance of getting a meet. Rubbish - if all the cheating men on here left today there isn;t a single woman that would find themselves struggling for meets such is the imbalance between males and females on here. And married men, with an inability to accomodate and restricted availability may or may not meet your definition of decent but they certainly meet may peoples definition of unreliable. Well I'm not going to cross contaminate threads, and you raise valid points, but the OP's thread asked why do they lie about status.. not lie in order to meet. The intersting fact is that not many of the other profiles have to reveal much about theirpersonal side other than what they cchoose to, thus protecting themselves from any judgements ? For instance, do people add previous criminalconvictions, if they are fdrug users, have they ever been abusive, do they earn a living etc etc. Ps this isnt a retort, I actually find many of your posts very balanced, its food for thought. And equally I'm not having a go at you. Your posts come across as questioning rather than pointless whinging. It comes down to numbers (and I've been on here as a single guy so speak from experience), single men are the least required and most over populated demographic on here. So you need to stand out and you need to eliminate as many potential pitfalls as possible. Being married is undoubtedly a pitfall so lying about status is in effect lying to get a meet as that is the ultimate purpose. I accept your point ..shakes hand and doesn't take it personally. I came here because i lacked something in my life. I didn't wish to sweet talk women making promises and misleading people in order to enjoy physical passion and attraction then leave them feeling neglected. I assumed there may be people looking for simple no strings fun on a site like this...but its a lot more complex and daunting than many believe, hence the high turn around of users. And like another user said, there's a large percentage of people who never progress beyond the fantasy on here. " as ive said before on these types of threads... dont understand how people can see a cheater as being NSA.. NSA means no complications.. and a cheater can cause many complications for the person if their OH finds out.. i speak from experience from those guys who lied | |||
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"Rubbish - if all the cheating men on here left today there isn;t a single woman that would find themselves struggling for meets such is the imbalance between males and females on here. And married men, with an inability to accomodate and restricted availability may or may not meet your definition of decent but they certainly meet may peoples definition of unreliable. " I am not saying there will be significant restricted availability for single women, however statistics say 5% of the population currently cheat on a partner, so therefore it would be reasonable to assume there would be a 5% reduction here. The question was why do people lie. It's to manipulate the person into giving them what they want/ desire. | |||
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"I just assume they are all married and go from there.. Yet more discrimination against us genuine single men hehehehehehehehe i assume alot of things about everyone and go from there.. whats wrong with that.. if your not what i assume then whats the problem.. hardly discrimination. i call it safety " Me too you need to make assumptions and can only do that on information given. | |||
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"I reckon a lot of single women here dont meet married men because they are looking for much more than a one off meet.... Could i ask in what way are you thinking ? xx A relationship..." Of course why didnt i think of that ! thats why most of the single women on here put "looking NSA fun" on their profiles If i were still a single female i think the last place i would even think of looking for a relationship with a guy would be a swingers site xx | |||
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"I reckon a lot of single women here dont meet married men because they are looking for much more than a one off meet.... Could i ask in what way are you thinking ? xx A relationship... Of course why didnt i think of that ! thats why most of the single women on here put "looking NSA fun" on their profiles If i were still a single female i think the last place i would even think of looking for a relationship with a guy would be a swingers site xx" You, me an plenty others......But then I didnt say ALL single women now, did I? | |||
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"I reckon a lot of single women here dont meet married men because they are looking for much more than a one off meet.... " If you read the forums people (men, women, couples) often mention the social aspect of the site, and for some they don't want one night stands. Personally, the way I play one off meets wouldn't be fulfilling. As I've said above I could care less if someone is married and I make no moral judgement if they want to be here. Not my life that will go tits up if they're found out. Too many restrictions, limited time and inability to accommodate makes it a no from me, but some married men really think they can change your mind! | |||
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"When I was playing without my girlfriend's knowledge the first line of my profile said that I'm attached and my girlfriend didn't know I was on here. I used to get quite a few messages saying it was refreshingly honest and it led to meeting people who wouldn't usually meet attached men, because I was totally open about it. My advice for attached men on here without their other half's knowledge is be open about it. It's usually going to quickly become obvious anyway and being open about it can actually make you stand out from the crowd. " I am honest about it in my profile (twice) but I rarely get a reply to my messages, not even to say no thanks. | |||
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"What if we reverse the fact a married man lies on his profile and assume that the married man then try to arrange meets. By the responses of the forums how many do you think would actually get a meet? I would say less than 1% You will then have the "single ladies" complain about where are all the decent single guys are. People lie on here because it give them a greater chance of getting a meet. Rubbish - if all the cheating men on here left today there isn;t a single woman that would find themselves struggling for meets such is the imbalance between males and females on here. And married men, with an inability to accomodate and restricted availability may or may not meet your definition of decent but they certainly meet may peoples definition of unreliable. Well I'm not going to cross contaminate threads, and you raise valid points, but the OP's thread asked why do they lie about status.. not lie in order to meet. The intersting fact is that not many of the other profiles have to reveal much about theirpersonal side other than what they cchoose to, thus protecting themselves from any judgements ? For instance, do people add previous criminalconvictions, if they are fdrug users, have they ever been abusive, do they earn a living etc etc. Ps this isnt a retort, I actually find many of your posts very balanced, its food for thought. And equally I'm not having a go at you. Your posts come across as questioning rather than pointless whinging. It comes down to numbers (and I've been on here as a single guy so speak from experience), single men are the least required and most over populated demographic on here. So you need to stand out and you need to eliminate as many potential pitfalls as possible. Being married is undoubtedly a pitfall so lying about status is in effect lying to get a meet as that is the ultimate purpose. I accept your point ..shakes hand and doesn't take it personally. I came here because i lacked something in my life. I didn't wish to sweet talk women making promises and misleading people in order to enjoy physical passion and attraction then leave them feeling neglected. I assumed there may be people looking for simple no strings fun on a site like this...but its a lot more complex and daunting than many believe, hence the high turn around of users. And like another user said, there's a large percentage of people who never progress beyond the fantasy on here. as ive said before on these types of threads... dont understand how people can see a cheater as being NSA.. NSA means no complications.. and a cheater can cause many complications for the person if their OH finds out.. i speak from experience from those guys who lied " Nsa is a myth in all areas. Now I'm staying quiet I've had my first forum lynching....need to lick my wounds | |||
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"I reckon a lot of single women here dont meet married men because they are looking for much more than a one off meet.... If you read the forums people (men, women, couples) often mention the social aspect of the site, and for some they don't want one night stands. Personally, the way I play one off meets wouldn't be fulfilling. As I've said above I could care less if someone is married and I make no moral judgement if they want to be here. Not my life that will go tits up if they're found out. Too many restrictions, limited time and inability to accommodate makes it a no from me, but some married men really think they can change your mind! " I dont repeat my meets but i'm with you 100% on this.... I was simply pointing out that some want much more than they will admit when meeting men from here.... | |||
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"I reckon a lot of single women here dont meet married men because they are looking for much more than a one off meet.... If you read the forums people (men, women, couples) often mention the social aspect of the site, and for some they don't want one night stands. Personally, the way I play one off meets wouldn't be fulfilling. As I've said above I could care less if someone is married and I make no moral judgement if they want to be here. Not my life that will go tits up if they're found out. Too many restrictions, limited time and inability to accommodate makes it a no from me, but some married men really think they can change your mind! I dont repeat my meets but i'm with you 100% on this.... I was simply pointing out that some want much more than they will admit when meeting men from here.... " Some don't hide it and have a different couples profile each week...but that's another thread! | |||
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"If someone is happy to tell great big fat whopping lies to the person they *cough* love.... why on earth would a potential shag command any greater degree of respect from them." GOOD POINT! | |||
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" Nsa is a myth in all areas. Now I'm staying quiet I've had my first forum lynching....need to lick my wounds " dont understand how it is a myth.. its not 100% guarenteed in any situation.. but i see cheaters as highering that risk considerablly | |||
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"Ok, so we are all on here for fun and a good time. So why is it that people feel the need to lie about there status?. Surely being open and honest is the way to go? Im not going to judge someone if they say there married? But I dont like people who lie regardless if I want there willy x " if they lie to their partner why would you think they are going to be honest with people on here? | |||
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"I have commented many times on these sorts of threads, usually giving marrieds a hard time. We would prefer it if they said so on their profile, as then we could make an informed choice, although our preference is not to meet them. However, there are lots who would, so maybe honesty is the way to go. Perhaps the site should have a "married but playing away" section so that men and women who are could find each other, as could those who don't mind playing with them? " one problem with that......it is still reliant on people telling the truth in the first place.... if they saw that section wasn't as busy as others.... I bet they would either change it.. or neglect to tell people ,deception by omission, which happens alot when these threads are started..... | |||
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"Am married, when I first filled out profile thought about putting single status in. But thought why lie let people take me as they fInd Me so I filled out my profile honestly. And am so glad I did. Naturally I have had some women scorn me some not. Some took the time To find out my circumstances. " See I don't really get that, surely why you cheat is none of anyone's business? Personally I don't want to know or is there something I am missing? | |||
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" if they lie to their partner why would you think they are going to be honest with people on here?" Because they have no good reason to lie to people on here??? | |||
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" if they lie to their partner why would you think they are going to be honest with people on here? Because they have no good reason to lie to people on here??? " depends if you meet married men or not | |||
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" if they lie to their partner why would you think they are going to be honest with people on here? Because they have no good reason to lie to people on here??? depends if you meet married men or not " Oh I know why they do it... Just dont see why they feel the need to... | |||
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"I can spot them a mile away so they don't bother me at all so they can lie all they want. Yeah? Yes! Hardly need to be Miss Marple, especially the way I play. Hard to explain to a wife where your pubes have disappeared to, why you have a "property off..." temporary tattoo on your arse, wax in your chest hair etc. They can lie to their wives all they like and think they're slick. Funny how the fess up when I say what's in store. " love it! if married guys want to play on here makes zero odds to me .if they wish to be up frount or lie through their teeth see makes zero odds to me .i just choose not to meet them as not what im looking for on here and dont require to justify that to them or tried to be talked round . going back to op ,some people will lie about numerous different things be it age ,height,job ect ...the bottom line reason is to further their own ends and just get what they want at what ever cost . if a person is that selfish then why would i think they would be any different in bed so only supports further why id not meet anyone who blatent lies to me .op id not waste any effort or any further thought on why the person lied ,better finding out now rather than further down the line . | |||
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"This subject pops up frequently. Yes I'm married, do I believe I can take the moral highroad ? No Does the fact that many wouldn't be interested in me concern me ? No I fully respect their choices. Do the vindictive, judgemental posts bother me ? Probably. But where do you draw the line without having the whole picture ?smoked cannabis ?Ah then you must be some dirty junkie wwho's too thick to enjoy yourself without drugs ? Claiming benefits ? Nah I'm not meeting you, you must be a right slob living in a council house! Got a manual job or work in a shop ? You must be a bit stupid and can't be very interesting company ! Oh sorry have I passed judgements and offended ? Sigh....look at the profiles, make a choice then move on if the people aren't what you approve of. Yes its a forum and yes you should express an opinion, but maybe do so objectively without insults ?" Its a shame married women and men don't put they are attached like you have on their profiles. At least you are being honest and letting people know, its the ones pretending they are single i don't like. | |||
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"It makes life hard for the men with partners hard work. Steve has my full blessing to go and play alone. I love getting to hear all about it after but yet he still gets the stick. Charlie" When your honest & say that your married, you are normally classed as a cheat. Even those like ourselves with permission find it difficult to get meets. It does seem to me that their choice is very black & white, married or not, however in some instances their is a grey area in the middle, but some are not interested in the grey area. However, I'm glad their are people who are happy to at least chat to find out more & then make their choice. | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie " Whhat a load of tripe? If crystal was termoinally ill I can say hand on heart the last thing I would be thinking of is getting laid elsewhere behind her back? Jesus, is their anything more vile than that? Would anyone really put their own sexual urges abover the thoughts of hurting a terminally ill partner? As for the abuse scenario, while i may be wrong I suspect that most people trapped in abusive relationships are too shit scarred to cheat because of the repercussions of being caught. Seriously, those examples are so bizarre I really hope tht you are posting for effect. | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie Whhat a load of tripe? If crystal was termoinally ill I can say hand on heart the last thing I would be thinking of is getting laid elsewhere behind her back? Jesus, is their anything more vile than that? Would anyone really put their own sexual urges abover the thoughts of hurting a terminally ill partner? As for the abuse scenario, while i may be wrong I suspect that most people trapped in abusive relationships are too shit scarred to cheat because of the repercussions of being caught. Seriously, those examples are so bizarre I really hope tht you are posting for effect." I have to agree, not well thought out examples. If however, an ill partner has agreed that the other should seek fun whilst they cant, then I think they should. | |||
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"Ooops your name isnt Simsam ....LOL....sorry " Hi Friendly Fire If you consider, for example, the scenarios I painted then the need to lie is clear. In 1. the dying wife would be hurt unless she was very understanding and in 2. the woman could be subject to physical violence if her husband found out. If you make your status clear (which I agree is preferable) you rely on the discretion of a group of stranger to keep the confidence. For those that read these lively forum debates, and have experienced trolling in some, would you take the risk? | |||
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"I have commented many times on these sorts of threads, usually giving marrieds a hard time. We would prefer it if they said so on their profile, as then we could make an informed choice, although our preference is not to meet them. However, there are lots who would, so maybe honesty is the way to go. Perhaps the site should have a "married but playing away" section so that men and women who are could find each other, as could those who don't mind playing with them? one problem with that......it is still reliant on people telling the truth in the first place.... if they saw that section wasn't as busy as others.... I bet they would either change it.. or neglect to tell people ,deception by omission, which happens alot when these threads are started....." Yes, I guess I was being a bit naive, but is it too much to ask for honesty? Lol, there I go again! Ah well, guess it's back to being cynical! | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie " Shocking post. 1. In sickness and in health. Simple fact of marriage and if someone was terminally ill, getting sex should be the last thing on their mind! 2. Kids who have parents who r abusive and violent to each other.. Seriously.. Get the kids out of there! Why wouyld that be a good enviroment for them to stay together for? Also woman who are a vicitm of domestic violence usually are the vicitm cos their self esteem and self worth have been stripped away by the abuser! She is gonna hardly wanna meet strangers for sex! Truely horrific examples of trying to say its ok to cheat! | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie Whhat a load of tripe? If crystal was termoinally ill I can say hand on heart the last thing I would be thinking of is getting laid elsewhere behind her back? Jesus, is their anything more vile than that? Would anyone really put their own sexual urges abover the thoughts of hurting a terminally ill partner? As for the abuse scenario, while i may be wrong I suspect that most people trapped in abusive relationships are too shit scarred to cheat because of the repercussions of being caught. Seriously, those examples are so bizarre I really hope tht you are posting for effect. I have to agree, not well thought out examples. If however, an ill partner has agreed that the other should seek fun whilst they cant, then I think they should. " If the termanilly ill person knows and agrees then the cheater is no longer a cheat and the scenario no longer relevant :/ | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie Shocking post. 1. In sickness and in health. Simple fact of marriage and if someone was terminally ill, getting sex should be the last thing on their mind! 2. Kids who have parents who r abusive and violent to each other.. Seriously.. Get the kids out of there! Why wouyld that be a good enviroment for them to stay together for? Also woman who are a vicitm of domestic violence usually are the vicitm cos their self esteem and self worth have been stripped away by the abuser! She is gonna hardly wanna meet strangers for sex! Truely horrific examples of trying to say its ok to cheat!" Please provide better ones. | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie Whhat a load of tripe? If crystal was termoinally ill I can say hand on heart the last thing I would be thinking of is getting laid elsewhere behind her back? Jesus, is their anything more vile than that? Would anyone really put their own sexual urges abover the thoughts of hurting a terminally ill partner? As for the abuse scenario, while i may be wrong I suspect that most people trapped in abusive relationships are too shit scarred to cheat because of the repercussions of being caught. Seriously, those examples are so bizarre I really hope tht you are posting for effect. I have to agree, not well thought out examples. If however, an ill partner has agreed that the other should seek fun whilst they cant, then I think they should. If the termanilly ill person knows and agrees then the cheater is no longer a cheat and the scenario no longer relevant :/" Thanks Please provide a better example. | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie Whhat a load of tripe? If crystal was termoinally ill I can say hand on heart the last thing I would be thinking of is getting laid elsewhere behind her back? Jesus, is their anything more vile than that? Would anyone really put their own sexual urges abover the thoughts of hurting a terminally ill partner? As for the abuse scenario, while i may be wrong I suspect that most people trapped in abusive relationships are too shit scarred to cheat because of the repercussions of being caught. Seriously, those examples are so bizarre I really hope tht you are posting for effect. I have to agree, not well thought out examples. If however, an ill partner has agreed that the other should seek fun whilst they cant, then I think they should. If the termanilly ill person knows and agrees then the cheater is no longer a cheat and the scenario no longer relevant :/ Thanks Please provide a better example. " As you are the one trying to convince us that their are some scenario;s where cheating is fine maybe you should provide the examples? | |||
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"I personally won't meet married men, because i have been heart broken twice with two husbands playing away which led to a major meltdown and me thinking that i was to blame for both. But then again how do you know if the guy or woman is married if they don't openly tell you on their profiles. Those that do then i wish them lots of fun as long as no one gets hurt, but like i said it's not for me !! " That's exactly why I state that I'm married in my profile. Would rather it wasn't this way but for once I'm being selfish and doing something for myself after 20yrs of meeting someone else's needs. I know a lot of people won't meet me because of this and I totally understand which is why I am brutally honest on my profile. I know I'm a cheater and I'm certainly not proud of it. | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie Whhat a load of tripe? If crystal was termoinally ill I can say hand on heart the last thing I would be thinking of is getting laid elsewhere behind her back? Jesus, is their anything more vile than that? Would anyone really put their own sexual urges abover the thoughts of hurting a terminally ill partner? As for the abuse scenario, while i may be wrong I suspect that most people trapped in abusive relationships are too shit scarred to cheat because of the repercussions of being caught. Seriously, those examples are so bizarre I really hope tht you are posting for effect. I have to agree, not well thought out examples. If however, an ill partner has agreed that the other should seek fun whilst they cant, then I think they should. If the termanilly ill person knows and agrees then the cheater is no longer a cheat and the scenario no longer relevant :/ Thanks Please provide a better example. As you are the one trying to convince us that their are some scenario;s where cheating is fine maybe you should provide the examples? " I proposed a couple of scenarios for debate to see if there is ANY case where not telling a partner you are on Fab would be acceptable. They appear to be poor examples. BigBumBrenda's last post however clearly stated her position, there is no scenario, irrespective of what harm or pain it may cause, where a man or woman engaged in casual sex with others should not tell their partner. I was not posting to try and convince anyone to love "cheaters" just to see if through debate we found a shade of grey. So far there is none. This must be the most honest and moral place on Earth! | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie " You are only showing how selfish and self absorbed some people can be. What kind of man would think about joining a site like this instead of being by their dying wife's side? Silly me, I've answered my own question! | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie You are only showing how selfish and self absorbed some people can be. What kind of man would think about joining a site like this instead of being by their dying wife's side? Silly me, I've answered my own question! " You have never heard of respite care? I will let the Chancellor know it is unnecessary. Carers should be on call 24/7. Let us stop this waste of money! Thank you! | |||
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" Forsaking all others? Does that mean all swinging is wrong then?" oh here we go.... i think it is more about consent in which all people are playing with consent... hence why a lot of couples consider swinging to be part of their sharing experience... for me it is as simple as doing something that would crush the person you profess to love more than any other.... | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie You are only showing how selfish and self absorbed some people can be. What kind of man would think about joining a site like this instead of being by their dying wife's side? Silly me, I've answered my own question! You have never heard of respite care? I will let the Chancellor know it is unnecessary. Carers should be on call 24/7. Let us stop this waste of money! Thank you! " You are massively missing the point, it is nothing to do with respite care. It is to do with the morals of somebody who would cheat on a dying partner and use the fact she was dying as justification. Even the words that would get me a very long forum holiday do not come clpse to describing someone like that. | |||
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"Well if anyone can provide a reason its ok to cheat then I would accept it.. But I'm yet to see a reason or hear one ever.. Specially if u consider marriage vows for starters.. All said for forsaking all others.. Forsaking all others? Does that mean all swinging is wrong then? However there is a big difference with your partner knowing you are meeting someone else and those who don't tell their partners that they are meeting someone else; one is being honest, the other isn't" Its still not forsaking all others. I don't recall saying in my marriage vows that I will forsake all others unless you are agreeable. | |||
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"I think its because they don't wish to advertise that they are behaving dishonestly which for many will be an unattractive quality. And as the other contributer posted....probably easy to spot. Although it is rather a contradiction in terms to say you're being honest about your marital status, then doing what your doing. Though as always....its a lot more complex than first appears " Sums it up quite well. You'll find, OP, that a lot of us who have/do swing as couples do so due to the open honesty with our OH's about what we're doing and, for many, it is hypocritical to then swing with someone who is doing it behind their partners back. But, as you rightly say (and my ex partner experienced this just last week) the 'odd one or two'slip through the net, no matter how tight you try to make that net... Fact of life with it, unfortunately.. | |||
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"Well if anyone can provide a reason its ok to cheat then I would accept it.. But I'm yet to see a reason or hear one ever.. Specially if u consider marriage vows for starters.. All said for forsaking all others.. Forsaking all others? Does that mean all swinging is wrong then? However there is a big difference with your partner knowing you are meeting someone else and those who don't tell their partners that they are meeting someone else; one is being honest, the other isn't Its still not forsaking all others. I don't recall saying in my marriage vows that I will forsake all others unless you are agreeable." I find that there is no point in arguing with someone who compares couples swinging to their own infidelity on the basis of marriage vows uttely pointless as the logic is so flawed it is laughable. | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie You are only showing how selfish and self absorbed some people can be. What kind of man would think about joining a site like this instead of being by their dying wife's side? Silly me, I've answered my own question! You have never heard of respite care? I will let the Chancellor know it is unnecessary. Carers should be on call 24/7. Let us stop this waste of money! Thank you! " If you honestly think calling in the McMillan nurse so you can bang some internet lover in a Travelodge is the way to go instead of holding onto the one you love, then nothing I say will make any difference to your thinking! | |||
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"Well if anyone can provide a reason its ok to cheat then I would accept it.. But I'm yet to see a reason or hear one ever.. Specially if u consider marriage vows for starters.. All said for forsaking all others.. Forsaking all others? Does that mean all swinging is wrong then? However there is a big difference with your partner knowing you are meeting someone else and those who don't tell their partners that they are meeting someone else; one is being honest, the other isn't Its still not forsaking all others. I don't recall saying in my marriage vows that I will forsake all others unless you are agreeable. I find that there is no point in arguing with someone who compares couples swinging to their own infidelity on the basis of marriage vows uttely pointless as the logic is so flawed it is laughable." If only we all had your superior intelligence. If you don't wish to argue (I thought we were actually discussing, not arguing), then don't contribute. That is more logical than trying to claim the higher moral ground. | |||
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"Well if anyone can provide a reason its ok to cheat then I would accept it.. But I'm yet to see a reason or hear one ever.. Specially if u consider marriage vows for starters.. All said for forsaking all others.. Forsaking all others? Does that mean all swinging is wrong then? However there is a big difference with your partner knowing you are meeting someone else and those who don't tell their partners that they are meeting someone else; one is being honest, the other isn't Its still not forsaking all others. I don't recall saying in my marriage vows that I will forsake all others unless you are agreeable. I find that there is no point in arguing with someone who compares couples swinging to their own infidelity on the basis of marriage vows uttely pointless as the logic is so flawed it is laughable. If only we all had your superior intelligence. If you don't wish to argue (I thought we were actually discussing, not arguing), then don't contribute. That is more logical than trying to claim the higher moral ground." I don't need to claim the moral highground. You are a married man cheating on his wife. We are a couple playing with each others full consent knowledge and support. I know that sounds somewhat judgemental but your posts invite it. If you don't want to be judged then don't compare your cheating to swinging, and don't use marriage vows to try and criticise people when on the face of it they mean nothing to you. | |||
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"Ok, so we are all on here for fun and a good time. So why is it that people feel the need to lie about there status?. Surely being open and honest is the way to go? Im not going to judge someone if they say there married? But I dont like people who lie regardless if I want there willy x " One reason for lying is that many people say they won't meet someone married or attached. It gets them more chance of a meet. | |||
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"Well if anyone can provide a reason its ok to cheat then I would accept it.. But I'm yet to see a reason or hear one ever.. Specially if u consider marriage vows for starters.. All said for forsaking all others.. Forsaking all others? Does that mean all swinging is wrong then? However there is a big difference with your partner knowing you are meeting someone else and those who don't tell their partners that they are meeting someone else; one is being honest, the other isn't Its still not forsaking all others. I don't recall saying in my marriage vows that I will forsake all others unless you are agreeable. I find that there is no point in arguing with someone who compares couples swinging to their own infidelity on the basis of marriage vows uttely pointless as the logic is so flawed it is laughable. If only we all had your superior intelligence. If you don't wish to argue (I thought we were actually discussing, not arguing), then don't contribute. That is more logical than trying to claim the higher moral ground. I don't need to claim the moral highground. You are a married man cheating on his wife. We are a couple playing with each others full consent knowledge and support. I know that sounds somewhat judgemental but your posts invite it. If you don't want to be judged then don't compare your cheating to swinging, and don't use marriage vows to try and criticise people when on the face of it they mean nothing to you." You can't help yourself, can you? | |||
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"If the purpose of the site is to facilitate people getting together for casual sex, after which they part, then why should anyone's marital status matter? For those that take it as a measure of their honesty and integrity, what are you afraid of? That they will steal from you or murder you? There are numerous reasons why an attached person may choose to be on this site. Consider these: 1. A married man who is the sole carer for his wife who is dying of cancer. Is he not entitled to a little discrete pleasure and relief? Or is he to visit prostitutes or have an affair? 2. A married woman with sexual needs who would leave her violent and abusive husband but for her children. Should she be ostracised for seeking some fun from Fab? Yes, there are and always be philanderers but "attached" should not be a badge of shame for all. And surely it is up to the attached person's conscience to worry about the morals of this. Having said that I know it will change nothing but I feel better. Ce la vie You are only showing how selfish and self absorbed some people can be. What kind of man would think about joining a site like this instead of being by their dying wife's side? Silly me, I've answered my own question! You have never heard of respite care? I will let the Chancellor know it is unnecessary. Carers should be on call 24/7. Let us stop this waste of money! Thank you! If you honestly think calling in the McMillan nurse so you can bang some internet lover in a Travelodge is the way to go instead of holding onto the one you love, then nothing I say will make any difference to your thinking!" Please clarify: 1. Is a full time carer entitled to ask for respite care? 2. Is the carer only allowed to ask if the free time is going to be used for an "acceptable" recreation? and are Travelodges good places to meet? | |||
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" If you honestly think calling in the McMillan nurse so you can bang some internet lover in a Travelodge is the way to go instead of holding onto the one you love, then nothing I say will make any difference to your thinking! Please clarify: 1. Is a full time carer entitled to ask for respite care? 2. Is the carer only allowed to ask if the free time is going to be used for an "acceptable" recreation? and are Travelodges good places to meet? " i cant believe how much more of a hole you are digging yourself over a terminally ill partner! do you really think someone who is looking after their ill partner is going to be thinking about where they can get their rocks off? while they sit and watch their loved one! the grieving process starts when you hear the words "we cant do anymore" it certainly doesnt 'ok; cheating in anyway to go out on meets when your partner is in respite.. just shows what sort of person you are and the fact you clearly dont have much love or respect for the person you claim to!! so just very much falls in the same catergory as any cheater! | |||
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"Well if anyone can provide a reason its ok to cheat then I would accept it.. But I'm yet to see a reason or hear one ever.. Specially if u consider marriage vows for starters.. All said for forsaking all others.. Forsaking all others? Does that mean all swinging is wrong then? However there is a big difference with your partner knowing you are meeting someone else and those who don't tell their partners that they are meeting someone else; one is being honest, the other isn't Its still not forsaking all others. I don't recall saying in my marriage vows that I will forsake all others unless you are agreeable." With my body I honour you, all that I am I give to you, and all that I have I share with you, marriage vows are more than just the foresaking line.. jez that was just an example.. the vows are overall making a vow to each other that from that day forward you will be a partnership and work together in everything you do.. that means no lying, cheating, dishonesty, that your life is no longer just about what one person wants but what both people want.... that you life in unison. so if you swing as a couple you are doing exactly that, and as a couple swinging you foresake all others by not running off and marrying someone else.. you seriously are picking holes that arent there | |||
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" If you honestly think calling in the McMillan nurse so you can bang some internet lover in a Travelodge is the way to go instead of holding onto the one you love, then nothing I say will make any difference to your thinking! Please clarify: 1. Is a full time carer entitled to ask for respite care? 2. Is the carer only allowed to ask if the free time is going to be used for an "acceptable" recreation? and are Travelodges good places to meet? i cant believe how much more of a hole you are digging yourself over a terminally ill partner! do you really think someone who is looking after their ill partner is going to be thinking about where they can get their rocks off? while they sit and watch their loved one! the grieving process starts when you hear the words "we cant do anymore" it certainly doesnt 'ok; cheating in anyway to go out on meets when your partner is in respite.. just shows what sort of person you are and the fact you clearly dont have much love or respect for the person you claim to!! so just very much falls in the same catergory as any cheater! " Answers: 1. Really? 2. yes, if it is a man. 3. "just shows what sort of person YOU are ..." I AM NOT THAT PERSON! This is a hypothesis if you cannot understand an objective discussion without personalising please do not reply. | |||
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