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So hard for single guys.

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Another single guys thread, I’m not here to complain or anything but just to ask why is it so hard am I that ugly? I know I’m not near the top of the list for guys on this site but why’s it so hard and if you say it’s not all about looks I don’t even get to the messaging part very often. Sometimes I do but not a common occurrence and many other guys on here will definitely agree, maybe it’s just me but I’m still happy nothing to cry about lol just saying as often I feel like leaving this site but it’s hot

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I forgot to say maybe size is all that matters at the end of the day??

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"I forgot to say maybe size is all that matters at the end of the day??

Can categorically say size is not the issue for most. Attitude and personality tends to trump cock size for most people (not all admittedly).

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By *ellhungvweMan over a year ago

Cheltenham

I think the key thing in the site is having some respect for your self. Self confidence in who you are is what a lot of people find attractive. Negative vibes are a huge turnoff.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

" I think the key thing in the site is having some respect for your self. Self confidence in who you are is what a lot of people find attractive. Negative vibes are a huge turnoff."

I’ve never really approached anyone negatively from what I remember but I agree

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I mean with negative vibes/energy.

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

" I think the key thing in the site is having some respect for your self. Self confidence in who you are is what a lot of people find attractive. Negative vibes are a huge turnoff.

I’ve never really approached anyone negatively from what I remember but I agree"

Ummm the topic of this thread has a negative vibe. You are being negative about yourself. That aside to be honest your biggest problem is your age - you could be the son or even grandson of a huge number of people on here. I would imagine far easier ways of meeting people at your age than here.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

I'd meet you and I'm pretty selective. But -from a physical perspective - it's not about good looks, just about having the right looks, when your personality and preferences match those of others. Most people are not mutually compatible with most other people. The numbers are stacked against each individual man here, I think you know that.

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By *aomilatteCouple over a year ago

Midlands

"I forgot to say maybe size is all that matters at the end of the day??

Can categorically say size is not the issue for most. Attitude and personality tends to trump cock size for most people (not all admittedly). "

This is it in a nutshell. So many will never ever get their head around that it's not about having a big cock, six pack or a flash car (some like those but they're the minority).

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman over a year ago

Carlisle usually

If you think you're ugly and not big enough, what chance have you got of convincing anyone else otherwise?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Having been on here for many years (old profile was lost) I can say it just takes time to find someone you connect with.

Know who you are, what you want/give and then go read profiles to find a match. You will pass at 90% of the profiles but that's better than sending 100s of messages only for them to be deleted.

Also, I find more positive responses away from fab, have you tried elsewhere?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP you are neither ugly, nor do you have a tiny penis.

If you're finding that messages aren't getting you anywhere, get yourself to a club, or a group social.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan over a year ago

Like someone has already said your age is your biggest issue, Not Many Women want to meet someone in their early 20s, even the younger Women usually want to meet Men older then them, I'd try and get your name on a fab social either at a club or at a social venue or just go to a club, Don't go thinking you will have sex just go to meet people socially and take it from there

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple over a year ago

Leeds

"I forgot to say maybe size is all that matters at the end of the day??

Size isn't an issue for most and your certainly not small.

You do have a lot of pics of your cock for some that's off-putting.

You aren't ugly either maybe crack a smile though.

Your young, male and there's an absolute shit load of you on here, if you want to stand out you need to make the effort.

Also wink/message people that are looking for men, that may help you won't get responses from couples like us.

Mrs

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By *isfits behaving badlyCouple over a year ago

Coventry

We see it so many times where guys obsess about looks and the size of their package. It's sad and when they focus on this they continue to miss the point. As many have said before:

IT'S MOST LIKELY NOT YOUR BODY OR YOUR PENIS SIZE!

Not that it matters because guys will continue to obsess about. When I was a single guy on here I think I could be counted as reasonably successful. Its so hard on here and there are so many great looking guys. Although I'm happy in my own skin, it's clear my body is not goods gift to women. So there must have been other factors that I communicated that go me attention and intrested others enough to engage with me and meet.

Something I've noticed about the club scene is there are certain guys who get all the action and gain a good reputation (we like to people watch). From what we've seen it has little to do with looks or size. Granted good looks don't do any harm but these guys are often just average blokes. What's not average is just the Spark they have with people. They tend to have an easily likable quality about them, a warmth and a humble confidence about them.

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By *hortishblondeWoman over a year ago

Essex

"We see it so many times where guys obsess about looks and the size of their package. It's sad and when they focus on this they continue to miss the point. As many have said before:

IT'S MOST LIKELY NOT YOUR BODY OR YOUR PENIS SIZE!

Mr"

So true

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By *toC Thats MeWoman over a year ago

Sheffield

Fab is difficult for everyone…not just single men.

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By *ysonfuryMan over a year ago

Stockport

I enjoy a chat and connecting with people. I have no expectations of a play if there fun it's a bonus. There are plenty of great folks on here. Keep plugging away and your day will come. Happy fabbing

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By *aughty_Smooth_OperatorMan over a year ago

Birmingham

I think the volume of men over women on fabs is heavily out numbered so it's very difficult

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's hard for everyone but statically single men have it the hardest to get a meet on Fab

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By *ave1976XXXMan over a year ago

newmarket

Been so hard as a single guy since covid

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By *xl PoseMan over a year ago

West Lothian

You've got plenty years ahead of you to meet a nice woman. Wait till you're 51 on here!, it's game over ha ha. oh well

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By *lleyCat1969Man over a year ago

Folkestone

Is it as hard for single guys as the forums would have you believe?

I'm an average looking, middle-aged bloke with an average cock.

I send polite messages with compliments and humour to people who I think I am a match for. Sure, a lot of them don't get a reply, but I am currently chatting with half a dozen couples and ladies.

We might meet or we might not, but either way I enjoy chatting and don't measure success by the number of replies or meets I get.

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By *iss DevilWoman over a year ago

Bedford

You're only 20! A lot of people on here have kids your age.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well I know I'm one of the ugliest guys on here which is partly why I can't meet a woman which is kool

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By *ortsmout-ukMan over a year ago

portsmouth

"Another single guys thread, I’m not here to complain or anything but just to ask why is it so hard am I that ugly? I know I’m not near the top of the list for guys on this site but why’s it so hard and if you say it’s not all about looks I don’t even get to the messaging part very often. Sometimes I do but not a common occurrence and many other guys on here will definitely agree, maybe it’s just me but I’m still happy nothing to cry about lol just saying as often I feel like leaving this site but it’s hot

I would shag you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just go with the flow and ride it out bud! Pointless messaging every woman on here. If they want to meet they message you. I havnt had many meets on here. I comes on here simple reasons I like to see people with similar mind set as me. Just e joy the views and stories of others till its your turn

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"Well I know I'm one of the ugliest guys on here which is partly why I can't meet a woman which is kool"

Or it could be regularly referring to yourself as ugly is a turn off

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well I know I'm one of the ugliest guys on here which is partly why I can't meet a woman which is kool

Or it could be regularly referring to yourself as ugly is a turn off "
or when I been told I'm ugly a couple off times then yeah I guess it's a turn off too

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thanks for all the messages a lot are good. I’m not ignoring them I’ve read them all replied to some privately.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

Home

For single guy I'm one , just keep plugging away and hopefully it will come good for you. Don't be complaining about getting nothing it just looks bad and will get you nowhere

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"Thanks for all the messages a lot are good. I’m not ignoring them I’ve read them all replied to some privately.

Don’t be shy. Share your thoughts here

. You haven’t just replied to the ladies have you?

. Some might be fine but sure some would prefer you kept it here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Thanks for all the messages a lot are good. I’m not ignoring them I’ve read them all replied to some privately.

Don’t be shy. Share your thoughts here

. You haven’t just replied to the ladies have you?

. Some might be fine but sure some would prefer you kept it here. "

Surprisingly not as many replies to ladies as you’d think

but still I’ve taken into account all the messages here.

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By *clovin.69Man over a year ago

Cardiff

I know the feeling OP, I've only been on here 2 months and it has already become mentally draining. Main reason is due to the fact i have sent countless messages, some of which i have spent a long time trying to write very carefully, but 99% of the time i don't even get a response and the odd few i have received have put little to no effort so it has lead nowhere.

I've tried the following things to improve my chances but none seem to work for me:

- editing my profile/bio.

- i don't have a public photos for work reasons but i always send face pics in private messages.

- generally i avoid sending cock pics (but should i be doing this, do people want to see every part of you immediately??)

- testing out different styled messages (short/long, funny/witty, complimentary, blunt etc) and I've tailored them a lot more to people's profiles lately.

- messaging more people than just locally to increase the odds.

I'm confident/comfortable with my looks/body, although i am a bit short for a guy so i know that could be an issue for some.

I'm not verified so that could be another issue too, but unfortunately I'm not a fan of clubs/parties etc so the only way i could get verified is if i meet someone 1-to-1 that is already verified. But i can't even get to the stage of arranging a social since i can't get any replies to begin with - it's like a vicious cycle!

To summarise my downfalls, i can't add public photos due to work reasons, i can't change my height lol and and i can't do open socials at clubs/parties etc so i can't get easily verified. Can someone honestly say it's worth staying on Fab if you were me in this case?

Happy for people to critique my profile and provide advice on my messages (since those are the only factors i can change) but as i said i have tried to improve these things and i am still having a bad experience.

P.S thanks for reading if you made it this far haha please don't take this as a complaint of Fab, many other single guys are obviously having a great time so this is just my personal experience

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By *tuvyMan over a year ago

bedford

Go to clubs, build up a network and keep trying at it

Hard work pays off. I’m lucky that I have a few good verification’s and get messages every few days from couples and single ladies

It just takes time, good pics, good humour and being natural

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By *clovin.69Man over a year ago

Cardiff

"Go to clubs, build up a network and keep trying at it

Hard work pays off. I’m lucky that I have a few good verification’s and get messages every few days from couples and single ladies

It just takes time, good pics, good humour and being natural "

I don't like going to clubs unfortunately so i think I'm screwed by the sounds of it haha appreciate the adivice and positivity though

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By *tuvyMan over a year ago

bedford

Break the cycle

If you go to a vanilla club do you actively chat to girls?

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By *ou SlippsMan over a year ago

Norwich

"I know the feeling OP, I've only been on here 2 months and it has already become mentally draining. Main reason is due to the fact i have sent countless messages, some of which i have spent a long time trying to write very carefully, but 99% of the time i don't even get a response and the odd few i have received have put little to no effort so it has lead nowhere.

I've tried the following things to improve my chances but none seem to work for me:

- editing my profile/bio.

- i don't have a public photos for work reasons but i always send face pics in private messages.

- generally i avoid sending cock pics (but should i be doing this, do people want to see every part of you immediately??)

- testing out different styled messages (short/long, funny/witty, complimentary, blunt etc) and I've tailored them a lot more to people's profiles lately.

- messaging more people than just locally to increase the odds.

I'm confident/comfortable with my looks/body, although i am a bit short for a guy so i know that could be an issue for some.

P.S thanks for reading if you made it this far haha please don't take this as a complaint of Fab, many other single guys are obviously having a great time so this is just my personal experience

That sounds about right for me too

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By *tuvyMan over a year ago

bedford

Would you meet a random unverified person off the net with no pics?

You have to do body shots and then separate face pics or you won’t get anywhere

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By *oxy jWoman over a year ago

somerset

I've tried the following things to improve my chances but none seem to work for me:

- editing my profile/bio.

- i don't have a public photos for work reasons but i always send face pics in private messages.

- generally i avoid sending cock pics (but should i be doing this, do people want to see every part of you immediately??)

- testing out different styled messages (short/long, funny/witty, complimentary, blunt etc) and I've tailored them a lot more to people's profiles lately.

- messaging more people than just locally to increase the odds.

I'm confident/comfortable with my looks/body, although i am a bit short for a guy so i know that could be an issue for some.

P.S thanks for reading if you made it this far haha please don't take this as a complaint of Fab, many other single guys are obviously having a great time so this is just my personal experience

its really simple on top of the fact that there are 100/200 men per woman / couples depending where you live the truth is nobody owes you or anybody else anything far to many join with expectation or worse a sense of entitlement .... swinging is about attraction and personalities choice and preference and rejection so until someone thinks oh hes nice or sexy then theres not alot guys can do..

alot of men never get a meet some get lucky some put in the effort and get somewhere and some just get meets without effort but the majority get no where its really not hard to see why id hate to be a single man on here but the facts are more and more men join daily and less women and couples join in fact ive seen quite a few no longer online..

swinging is at a cross roads at the mo with loads of couples going to clubs / private partys and word of mouth / undergound scene ...

far to many join and expecting sex on a plate and that is just not swinging

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By *echnosonic_BrummieMan over a year ago

Willenhall

It's always hard for single men on here.

That's why my wank sock is in desperate need of a wash.

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By *clovin.69Man over a year ago

Cardiff

"Would you meet a random unverified person off the net with no pics? "

That's not a valid point in my case as i always send pictures when i DM someone - if they reply then I'm happy to get to know them and be patient until they are comfortable with meeting me, even if it's just a social.

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By *tuvyMan over a year ago

bedford

Problem is your unverified

Even if you went to a club and had a soft drink then came home it’s a start

Your asking for the winning lottery numbers but without paying to play

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By *clovin.69Man over a year ago

Cardiff

"far to many join and expecting sex on a plate and that is just not swinging"

I agree with your full message in general.

I only disagree with that last sentence as i personally never expect sex on a plate - i'm happy to have a conversation on Fab then socialise in person to see where it goes, but sadly for me i can't get a response to make any sort of conversation to begin with lol but i guess like you said earlier that is partially down to the odds and attraction/interest in my photos/profile etc.

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By *clovin.69Man over a year ago

Cardiff

"It's always hard for single men on here.

That's why my wank sock is in desperate need of a wash."

Haha new socks for xmas soon don't worry!

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By *alleyDaveMan over a year ago

Sheffield

I've tried the following things to improve my chances but none seem to work for me:

- editing my profile/bio.

- i don't have a public photos for work reasons but i always send face pics in private messages.

- generally i avoid sending cock pics (but should i be doing this, do people want to see every part of you immediately??)

- testing out different styled messages (short/long, funny/witty, complimentary, blunt etc) and I've tailored them a lot more to people's profiles lately.

- messaging more people than just locally to increase the odds.

I'm confident/comfortable with my looks/body, although i am a bit short for a guy so i know that could be an issue for some.

P.S thanks for reading if you made it this far haha please don't take this as a complaint of Fab, many other single guys are obviously having a great time so this is just my personal experience

Im in the sane boat mate apart from I openly display my face on here . I have been on here for a year and a half ,and I used to put time and effort into carefully reading profiles of couples and single women who were looking for guys my age . I spent time making sure I sent we'll thought out, tailored messages ,but all were deleted unread. So I eventually gave up wasting my time sending messages .

I also share your stance on clubs and organised socials, i have zero interest in them . I would prefer a one on one social in a public place for a coffee and chat to see if there is a spark and attraction. Sadly I havnt even had a social in all my time on here .

Please Don't think that you not showing a face pic is working against you ,as I have loads on public display and I can't even get a social meet .

I use Fab to read and post on the forums now ,as I've long since given up on ever meeting anyone on here.

A very small percentage of single blokes on here have all the meet verifications, the vast majority of us have no chance mate.

You will get the old "go to a club or organised social " comments ,as you have already had in this thread ,as i have in in threads I've posted ,but when you aren't interested in going to clubs or organised socials, that advice is worthless .

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By *alleyDaveMan over a year ago

Sheffield

"Would you meet a random unverified person off the net with no pics?

You have to do body shots and then separate face pics or you won’t get anywhere "

Everyone starts off unverified ,and someone gave you the chance to get verified . Sadly ,it seems the same is not afforded to all of us .

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By *tuvyMan over a year ago

bedford

I met a couple as I had a dozen pics then swift drink and fucked her in the woods

After that clubs have me a good few veris

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By *as2cheatMan over a year ago

harrow

It’s hard because woman fuck who they want guys fuck who they can, it’s lack of equity but pussy will always hold the power unless your a pornstar type guy, don’t let this place get you down you are still desired by people you just haven’t found them yet

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By *as2cheatMan over a year ago

harrow

"Fab is difficult for everyone…not just single men."

Care to elaborate you can meet anyone you like

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By *xfordjohnMan over a year ago

Oxford

It's always been difficult for single guys. I've been using swinging websites for 20 years, ever since they started really. I've been on three different ones, had good meets and made friends from all. Each time it's taken up to a year to achieve but it happened eventually. You have to make the effort, have a proper profile and approach people as individuals. Just keep trying.

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"It’s hard because woman fuck who they want guys fuck who they can

Speak for yourself. Some of us are more choosy

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By *as2cheatMan over a year ago

harrow

Of course you are mate

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Are you on other sites which are working better for you OP? Maybe focus elsewhere and take the pressure off yourself on here, enjoy the social element of fab.

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By *as2cheatMan over a year ago

harrow

Was actually speaking in general I’m choosy to hence the lack of veris, I’m not defined by this place and it’s not the end of the world for me

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"Was actually speaking in general I’m choosy to hence the lack of veris, I’m not defined by this place and it’s not the end of the world for me "

Lol so you are choosy but you doubt others are

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By *iss DevilWoman over a year ago

Bedford

"Fab is difficult for everyone…not just single men.

Care to elaborate you can meet anyone you like "

I can elaborate for you. Yes, technically I could meet anyone I like. However, I get fed up by all the rude and/or crude messages treating me as just a hole to fill because they are "horny". Yes, I could block all men and do the searching myself, but just can't be arsed. Therefore, I am currently sticking to my partner who I met on here and who I actually messaged first as I liked his profile and how he was presenting himself on the forum. He has not got a six pack or looks like an Adonis but has some valuable skills that I enjoy. We will be celebrating our 5 year anniversary this Halloween.

I also don't really need to look for anyone else as I do have some FWB/FBs who I see on at least semi-regular basis. So nowadays it's just forum and clubs only meets- at least in clubs, I can feel safe, meet more than one person at a time, and use the facilities. And I don't have to keep trailing through terrible messages.

Wanna swap?

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By *iss DevilWoman over a year ago

Bedford

"Go to clubs, build up a network and keep trying at it

Hard work pays off. I’m lucky that I have a few good verification’s and get messages every few days from couples and single ladies

It just takes time, good pics, good humour and being natural "

He can't go to a swingers clubs as most are 21+

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman over a year ago

Carlisle usually

"Fab is difficult for everyone…not just single men.

Care to elaborate you can meet anyone you like "

Well yes. Any woman can get laid if she's willing to accept any willing penis.

Same goes for any straight man if they'd stop being so fussy and just accept the ween.

Finding worthwhile and compatible people is an issue on all sides

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Emotional Intelligence, or EQ trumps all.

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By *armandwet50Couple over a year ago

Far far away

"Fab is difficult for everyone…not just single men.

Care to elaborate you can meet anyone you like

Well yes. Any woman can get laid if she's willing to accept any willing penis.

Same goes for any straight man if they'd stop being so fussy and just accept the ween.

Finding worthwhile and compatible people is an issue on all sides

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I actually just posted some perspectives of my own on this. Suffice to say while it would be ridiculous to suggest it were anything but hard for men its not impossible.

You wouldnt have an entitlement that anyone you were nice to and tried to make conversation with in the outside world might sleep with you. It shouldnt therefore be assumed that would be the case here.

Dont equate people who are sexually liberal with 'easy' its not necessarily the same thing.

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By *toC Thats MeWoman over a year ago

Sheffield

"Fab is difficult for everyone…not just single men.

Care to elaborate you can meet anyone you like

Well yes. Any woman can get laid if she's willing to accept any willing penis.

Same goes for any straight man if they'd stop being so fussy and just accept the ween.

Finding worthwhile and compatible people is an issue on all sides

Exactly this

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By *ovetolick78Man over a year ago

The Shire

Respect yourself, respect others and make the best of it on here. Its not all about meets. The social side and chatting to people is just as important. Just be true to yourself.

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By *as2cheatMan over a year ago

harrow

This is amazing so glad you found what you was looking for , sounds like a great balance

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Emotional Intelligence, or EQ trumps all.

Underrated reply. Its as simple as this.

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"Fab is difficult for everyone…not just single men.

Care to elaborate you can meet anyone you like

Wanna swap? "

Agree with the overall sentiment but not right to say technically you could meet anyone you like. They may not want to want meet you! Never mind have sex with you. No comment on you personally but this idea that all meet will meet any lady is ridiculous. Personally I’ve even blocked a lady this morning just because I didn’t want to see her pics on my local updates never mind meet and get intimate.

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"This is amazing so glad you found what you was looking for , sounds like a great balance

It might be easier to follow your replies if you quote reply.

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By *iss DevilWoman over a year ago

Bedford

I did not say that I could meet anyone, I said that "TECHNICALLY I could meet anyone I LIKE". Maybe the meaning of "technically" to you is different than to me, so let me explain. What I meant was that, if I really wanted, just because I am a woman (at least last time I checked), I would not be short of offers to meet. And that's where "technically" comes in: it emphasises (to me anyway) that even though I would not be short of offers, not everyone would be suitable on a variety of grounds, including chemistry, how attractive we are to each other, availability and other. Hope that makes better sense now.

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By *cnugatugMan over a year ago

Chatham

Too many dick pics can also ruin a profile 1 maybe 2 tastefully taken one's would be ok but any more then that it kinda puts people off I mean I think we all know what a cock looks like by now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Dont equate people who are sexually liberal with 'easy' it’s not necessarily the same thing."

This. Far too many join a swinging site and then treat it like a sex site.

Initial expectations are unrealistic. There are no desperate hoards of women on here waiting to have sex at a moments notice with anyone who messages them.

Negativity then sets in which really is one of the most unattractive traits. A complete turn off.

And for those who think women have it easy, if you had access to my messages for one day you’d understand why we become jaded and cynical.

Yes there are decent guys on Fab but sadly they get lost in the sea of others who are far from it.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman over a year ago

Carlisle usually

"Yes there are decent guys on Fab but sadly they get lost in the sea of others who are far from it."

I find it to be the other way.

Those that would have appealed anyway shine brighter against the endless sea of unwanted noodles

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

Thank you for clarifying. Technically is not the key word - it is anyone that is key. Yes agreed you could technically meet somebody whenever you wished unlike most men. Anybody implies everyone is there for your taking. Somebody implies you could always find somebody if you so wished even it not everyone.

I just wanted to clarify as some ladies do pretty much think they can get anyone and the belief than pretty much all meet will go with any lady is widespread.

I will retreat to pedant nerd corner.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I find it to be the other way.

Those that would have appealed anyway shine brighter against the endless sea of unwanted noodles

That’s a valid point.

I will put my optimistic head on today and delve into my messages chewing up and spitting out those unwanted noodles!

I feel full already

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By *iss DevilWoman over a year ago

Bedford

I just wanted to clarify as some ladies do pretty much think they can get anyone and the belief than pretty much all meet will go with any lady is widespread.

I will retreat to pedant nerd corner. "

You're still missing the point I was trying to make, but let's just agree to disagree and go back to the original poster.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman over a year ago

Carlisle usually

I find it to be the other way.

Those that would have appealed anyway shine brighter against the endless sea of unwanted noodles

That’s a valid point.

I will put my optimistic head on today and delve into my messages chewing up and spitting out those unwanted noodles!

I feel full already

Don't put the unwanted noodles in your mouth silly. That wasn't the point

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes there are decent guys on Fab but sadly they get lost in the sea of others who are far from it.

I find it to be the other way.

Those that would have appealed anyway shine brighter against the endless sea of unwanted noodles

Ha this wins the day. Favourite quote on the thread. Im pretty sure its true though from conversations Ive had.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Don't put the unwanted noodles in your mouth silly. That wasn't the point

Ooops! Spits out immediately and pays better attention

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By *ovetolick78Man over a year ago

The Shire

Standing out can be tricky, but I've always found good manners always help.

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By *sxxxWoman over a year ago

leeds

I think it's hard for women to meet other women personally that gives my confidence abit of a knock in all honesty

I was starting to wonder the same as you

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By *weetCruellaWoman over a year ago

somewhere sweet and sour

I think it's hard for women to meet other women personally that gives my confidence abit of a knock in all honesty

I was starting to wonder the same as you"

Ok you have confused me lol says you are straight??

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By *clovin.69Man over a year ago

Cardiff

"Im in the sane boat mate apart from I openly display my face on here . I have been on here for a year and a half ,and I used to put time and effort into carefully reading profiles of couples and single women who were looking for guys my age . I spent time making sure I sent we'll thought out, tailored messages ,but all were deleted unread. So I eventually gave up wasting my time sending messages .

Please Don't think that you not showing a face pic is working against you ,as I have loads on public display and I can't even get a social meet .

I use Fab to read and post on the forums now ,as I've long since given up on ever meeting anyone on here.

A very small percentage of single blokes on here have all the meet verifications, the vast majority of us have no chance mate.

Thanks for sharing your experience mate, i don't feel like the odd one out now haha i don't know how you lasted on here like this for 1.5 years but i think I'm done already...

I keep seeing "lower expectations" but if all I'm hoping for is a reply to DMs on the odd occasion then how much lower can i go lol

And apparently every man could go for anyone too if they're willing to lower their standards. That's not true at all, i messaged quite a few random people that i had 0 interest in just to test out different message styles afterwards and i can confirm i had 0 replies... so either my writing skills are atrocious or I'm just as ugly as my test subjects lol either way the lowering standards statement is false.

I've tried to improve what i can within reason but it seems like unless i have an interest in clubs i am completely wasting my time here. Good luck to the rest of you single guys anyway!

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

Please Don't think that you not showing a face pic is working against you ,as I have loads on public display and I can't even get a social meet .

I use Fab to read and post on the forums now ,as I've long since given up on ever meeting anyone on here.

A very small percentage of single blokes on here have all the meet verifications, the vast majority of us have no chance mate.

Thanks for sharing your experience mate, i don't feel like the odd one out now haha i don't know how you lasted on here like this for 1.5 years but i think I'm done already...

I keep seeing "lower expectations" but if all I'm hoping for is a reply to DMs on the odd occasion then how much lower can i go lol

I've tried to improve what i can within reason but it seems like unless i have an interest in clubs i am completely wasting my time here. Good luck to the rest of you single guys anyway!"

There is one obvious reason why you will struggle to get replies. Referring to your “test subjects” as ugly probably not going to help the cause

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Most men on here won't get a meet simply because there are far more women on here than men, so unless the women on here are happy to rack up their numbers, it won't happen

This is spoken to death every day on here not sure if the men who post are suddenly expecting a different answer hence why there's a new post asking the same thing daily

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Fab is difficult for everyone…not just single men."

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"Most men on here won't get a meet simply because there are far more women on here than men, so unless the women on here are happy to rack up their numbers, it won't happen

This is spoken to death every day on here not sure if the men who post are suddenly expecting a different answer hence why there's a new post asking the same thing daily"

Far more women than men? Have I gone the looking glass and in some new world?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's hard for women to meet other women personally that gives my confidence abit of a knock in all honesty

I was starting to wonder the same as you"

Yes defo difficult as a woman on here trying to meet other women as well

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most men on here won't get a meet simply because there are far more women on here than men, so unless the women on here are happy to rack up their numbers, it won't happen

This is spoken to death every day on here not sure if the men who post are suddenly expecting a different answer hence why there's a new post asking the same thing daily

Far more women than men? Have I gone the looking glass and in some new world?

Lmao I meant "far more men on here than woman"

I wrote the words "men" and "women" too many times in too small of a paragraph

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off...

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"Most men on here won't get a meet simply because there are far more women on here than men, so unless the women on here are happy to rack up their numbers, it won't happen

This is spoken to death every day on here not sure if the men who post are suddenly expecting a different answer hence why there's a new post asking the same thing daily

Far more women than men? Have I gone the looking glass and in some new world?

Lmao I meant "far more men on here than woman"

I wrote the words "men" and "women" too many times in too small of a paragraph

Almost got my hopes up for millisecond

. Saying that I have been to a pub social where more women than men as lots of men bottled it last minute…..umm sorry had car/child/work issues last minute.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off..."

That is a serious piece of equipment

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By *iddlesticksMan over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

I’m no sex god although I’d like to think I wasn’t hit with the ugly stick, but that’s not my point. My point is that it’s not hard for single men in fab, you’ve just got to be realistic.

Do you pull every time you go out to a pub, probably not, then why should here be different.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off...

That is a serious piece of equipment

Why thank you, I appreciate the love!! Waits for the inevitable it must be so easy for you. Consider me braced

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off...

That is a serious piece of equipment

Why thank you, I appreciate the love!! Waits for the inevitable it must be so easy for you. Consider me braced

Maybe not "so easy" but a little easier lol

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off...

That is a serious piece of equipment

Why thank you, I appreciate the love!! Waits for the inevitable it must be so easy for you. Consider me braced

It is rather ironic that such a comment was made on this thread

. Does rather reinforce some pre-conceptions even it they are generally misconceptions.

And yep there have been ladies posting similar threads. Some have gone down in flames but generally they get well-supported with lots of positive comments.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Negative vibes

Confidence

Attitude

Personality

Size.. No

Plus 18-23 is not my type you could be my son.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off...

That is a serious piece of equipment

Why thank you, I appreciate the love!! Waits for the inevitable it must be so easy for you. Consider me braced

It is rather ironic that such a comment was made on this thread

. Does rather reinforce some pre-conceptions even it they are generally misconceptions.

And yep there have been ladies posting similar threads. Some have gone down in flames but generally they get well-supported with lots of positive comments. "

The irony wasnt lost on me hence me acknowledging. Can certainly say some men have been pretty rude to me when Ive ventured to comment on these subjects in the past to the point theyre almost suggesting my perspective is invalid. Not sure that's reasonable!

As for women posting threads that are similar, Id venture theyre outnumbered by some distance...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off...

That is a serious piece of equipment

Why thank you, I appreciate the love!! Waits for the inevitable it must be so easy for you. Consider me braced

It is rather ironic that such a comment was made on this thread

. Does rather reinforce some pre-conceptions even it they are generally misconceptions.

And yep there have been ladies posting similar threads. Some have gone down in flames but generally they get well-supported with lots of positive comments. "

Maybe

Some women do prefer a bigger penis but that being said all over aspect of the person have to be up to a certain standard as well, does the woman actually find them attractive, are they respectful, do they have a nice personality etc

Like I said being bigger won't make it really easy on here but at least a little easier

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off...

That is a serious piece of equipment

Why thank you, I appreciate the love!! Waits for the inevitable it must be so easy for you. Consider me braced

It is rather ironic that such a comment was made on this thread

. Does rather reinforce some pre-conceptions even it they are generally misconceptions.

And yep there have been ladies posting similar threads. Some have gone down in flames but generally they get well-supported with lots of positive comments.

Maybe

Like I said being bigger won't make it really easy on here but at least a little easier "

Please ignore the spelling/grammar mistakes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off...

That is a serious piece of equipment

Why thank you, I appreciate the love!! Waits for the inevitable it must be so easy for you. Consider me braced

It is rather ironic that such a comment was made on this thread

. Does rather reinforce some pre-conceptions even it they are generally misconceptions.

And yep there have been ladies posting similar threads. Some have gone down in flames but generally they get well-supported with lots of positive comments.

Maybe

Like I said being bigger won't make it really easy on here but at least a little easier

Please ignore the spelling/grammar mistakes

Yes absolutely and its a bit rich for anyone to invalidate another human being for wanting a particular attribute in a partner. I mean its a small thing called peesonal taste and preference.

Yes I know I have it easier than some on here but I dont want to meet people for whom Im just a walking sex toy. The best meets are built on connection.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off...

That is a serious piece of equipment

Why thank you, I appreciate the love!! Waits for the inevitable it must be so easy for you. Consider me braced

It is rather ironic that such a comment was made on this thread

. Does rather reinforce some pre-conceptions even it they are generally misconceptions.

And yep there have been ladies posting similar threads. Some have gone down in flames but generally they get well-supported with lots of positive comments.

Maybe

Like I said being bigger won't make it really easy on here but at least a little easier

Please ignore the spelling/grammar mistakes

Yes absolutely and its a bit rich for anyone to invalidate another human being for wanting a particular attribute in a partner. I mean its a small thing called peesonal taste and preference.

Yes I know I have it easier than some on here but I dont want to meet people for whom Im just a walking sex toy. The best meets are built on connection."

100% no one wants to feel like a sex toy

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan over a year ago

London

There a shelf with a hundred naughty ladies, there’s a shelf with tens of thousands of men.

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By *entle_lover_xMan over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off...

That is a serious piece of equipment

Why thank you, I appreciate the love!! Waits for the inevitable it must be so easy for you. Consider me braced

It is rather ironic that such a comment was made on this thread

. Does rather reinforce some pre-conceptions even it they are generally misconceptions.

And yep there have been ladies posting similar threads. Some have gone down in flames but generally they get well-supported with lots of positive comments.

Maybe

Like I said being bigger won't make it really easy on here but at least a little easier

Please ignore the spelling/grammar mistakes

Yes absolutely and its a bit rich for anyone to invalidate another human being for wanting a particular attribute in a partner. I mean its a small thing called peesonal taste and preference.

Yes I know I have it easier than some on here but I dont want to meet people for whom Im just a walking sex toy. The best meets are built on connection.

100% no one wants to feel like a sex toy

lol but the first and only comment you made was about the piece of equipment.

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By *oxy jWoman over a year ago

somerset

sadly for men its not just the sheer number of them that let you down its women and couples selection process too add in to this those who are entitled and those who expect women to be falling at their feet then lazy men its realy not hard to see why so many men will never make it on this scene.... attraction ie looks personality is everything could fill a room with a 1000 men from fab and put one woman in with them and there a high chance their not be one man that she will be interested in ...its really that simple

swinging for alot of men will be tuff and full of rejection because no attraction that is not anyones fault that is just life

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *ekkatransTV/TS over a year ago

Scarborough

I get a lot of messages from guys that either start off “Are you free to meet now “ and then there’s the ones that say “ What are you into “

Whatever’s happened to the art of conversation? Get to know a person and don’t just assume people sit around just ready to meet when asked. You wouldn’t say that in real life so why do you think that’s going to impress someone on here?

Guys have to stand out and that’s not the way to do it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was on fab in the past. These threads popped up almost daily. Something faintly reassuring to know despite all the turmoil and change some things remain constant.

It really neednt be so hard. If youre a bloke you wouldnt shag anyone without some standards why would you expect women to do otherwise.

As I said elsewhere not that women make threads like this but in the unlikely event they did I think most guys would find it a turn off...

That is a serious piece of equipment

Why thank you, I appreciate the love!! Waits for the inevitable it must be so easy for you. Consider me braced

It is rather ironic that such a comment was made on this thread

. Does rather reinforce some pre-conceptions even it they are generally misconceptions.

And yep there have been ladies posting similar threads. Some have gone down in flames but generally they get well-supported with lots of positive comments.

Maybe

Like I said being bigger won't make it really easy on here but at least a little easier

Please ignore the spelling/grammar mistakes

Yes absolutely and its a bit rich for anyone to invalidate another human being for wanting a particular attribute in a partner. I mean its a small thing called peesonal taste and preference.

Yes I know I have it easier than some on here but I dont want to meet people for whom Im just a walking sex toy. The best meets are built on connection.

100% no one wants to feel like a sex toy

lol but the first and only comment you made was about the piece of equipment. "

Was neither my first nor my only comment.

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By *xonman53Man over a year ago

Thame

And I too old going other way ..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don’t understand why people say it’s hard for single guys? I don’t think it is.

I get the impression that some people aren’t very thick skinned, or they perhaps have unrealistic expectations?

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By *clovin.69Man over a year ago

Cardiff

Please Don't think that you not showing a face pic is working against you ,as I have loads on public display and I can't even get a social meet .

I use Fab to read and post on the forums now ,as I've long since given up on ever meeting anyone on here.

A very small percentage of single blokes on here have all the meet verifications, the vast majority of us have no chance mate.

Thanks for sharing your experience mate, i don't feel like the odd one out now haha i don't know how you lasted on here like this for 1.5 years but i think I'm done already...

I keep seeing "lower expectations" but if all I'm hoping for is a reply to DMs on the odd occasion then how much lower can i go lol

I've tried to improve what i can within reason but it seems like unless i have an interest in clubs i am completely wasting my time here. Good luck to the rest of you single guys anyway!

There is one obvious reason why you will struggle to get replies. Referring to your “test subjects” as ugly probably not going to help the cause

That was only said in jest to prove a point that lowering standards does not result in more replies. It wasn't to offend anyone (sorry if i did) and I'm always kind/respectful in general and via DMs.

Besides, i was sharing my experience that 99% of people hadn't replied to me previously so that one off reference in jest wasn't the "one obvious reason" for my terrible success rate before... and yes it might not help the cause in future if i message someone who has read that, but at this point i don't plan on using this site anymore anyway, i was just sharing my personal experience and views with that other gentlemen who said he was in the same boat

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By *xfordiceCouple over a year ago

wendover

Can I say I find it unsurprising that many single guys struggle on here. So many join attracted by the photographs and thought of loads of sex. However, their manner when approaching a couple is often found wanting: Any of these unsuccessful one line approaches sound familiar?

1 - Hi

2 - Hi Babe

3 - I want to fuck your Mrs

4 - You looking for tonight?

5 - a wink because I can't be arsed to write

6- No pictures in the profile and possible just a close up dick shot

7 - A face pic which looks like you're trying to face a gangster off in a street

8 - Picture in in grey trackies aka prison wear.

But don't assume if we are on line we want to meet that night.

Read the fucking profile first! You might have something to say then.

Be patient

Top tip. Single guys outnumber couples by at least 20 to one. If you were in a bar or club in real life with those odds wouldn't you try to make an effort and possibly even ask for a dance / have a drink and chat before asking if you want to go to the toilets and fuck?

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By *ife NinjaMan over a year ago

Dunfermline

"Can I say I find it unsurprising that many single guys struggle on here. So many join attracted by the photographs and thought of loads of sex. However, their manner when approaching a couple is often found wanting: Any of these unsuccessful one line approaches sound familiar?

1 - Hi

2 - Hi Babe

3 - I want to fuck your Mrs

4 - You looking for tonight?

5 - a wink because I can't be arsed to write

6- No pictures in the profile and possible just a close up dick shot

7 - A face pic which looks like you're trying to face a gangster off in a street

8 - Picture in in grey trackies aka prison wear.

But don't assume if we are on line we want to meet that night.

Read the fucking profile first! You might have something to say then.

Be patient

Premier Inn. Toilets are so 1985

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By *oxy jWoman over a year ago

somerset

1 - Hi

2 - Hi Babe

3 - I want to fuck your Mrs

4 - You looking for tonight?

5 - a wink because I can't be arsed to write

6- No pictures in the profile and possible just a close up dick shot

7 - A face pic which looks like you're trying to face a gangster off in a street

8 - Picture in in grey trackies aka prison wear.

But don't assume if we are on line we want to meet that night.

Read the fucking profile first! You might have something to say then.

Be patient

25 to 1 ???? 100 to 1 in some areas and 200/300 to 1 in built up citys its never been 25 to 1 unless to go back to the 70s and 80s and if guys keep joining at the rate they are the % will only ever go up ... you only have to look at how many men join daily local to see they are flooding in all it will do is make it even harder for men and with alot finding it impossible it will just create more and more moaners..

and ill add for the first time in a long long time ive not seen any new women or couples online or clubs normally there a new couple here n there add to that those who have left the scene due to it being hard work or attracting those they are not interested .... sadly men will kill the online scene as couples start going underground again as many are already .... i would hate to be a man trying to get on this scene

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By *sxxxWoman over a year ago

leeds

I think it's hard for women to meet other women personally that gives my confidence abit of a knock in all honesty

I was starting to wonder the same as you

Ok you have confused me lol says you are straight?? "

Attention to detail is not my strong point

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I’ve just been catching up and reading all the replies now but I did read a few during the day. A lot are helpful and a lot are just people disagreeing or debating but I found it interesting and a bit helpful so thanks I’ll definitely continue to follow this if there’s more comments.

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By *etterdays2021Man over a year ago

PETERBOROUGH

Its not hard for single guys its just theirs 1000.00000 men for 1000 women .. and most of them don't understand a no.. women get extra cautious i dont blame them.

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By *ick-Dastardly-Man over a year ago

A whole world of Shit.

Plenty fish in the sea...sometimes instead fishing with a rod, you need a trawler net.... But be careful what you snag & drag up....

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By *ick-Dastardly-Man over a year ago

A whole world of Shit.

"Plenty fish in the sea...sometimes instead fishing with a rod, you need a trawler net.... But be careful what you snag & drag up.... "

But it really ticks me off when I read posts from single men whinging that they can't get a meet...

If you're not pulling a bit of crumpet normally, being on here won't make a difference.

It won't help if you've zero personality skills too...

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By *alleyDaveMan over a year ago

Sheffield

"Fab is difficult for everyone…not just single men.

Care to elaborate you can meet anyone you like "

Not in my experience.

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By *TG3Man over a year ago

Dorchester

Put some more cock pics up get it noticed

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By *alleyDaveMan over a year ago

Sheffield

"I don’t understand why people say it’s hard for single guys? I don’t think it is.

I get the impression that some people aren’t very thick skinned, or they perhaps have unrealistic expectations?"

Really?

In a year and half on here ,I havnt even had a social meet ,yet alone he chance of any fun . Now I am as thick skinned as they come ,absolutely nothing offends me . I don't have unrealistic expectations, and I am aware I'm not the best looking bloke ,and I have never seen a gym in my life ,nor ever will do ,and my body is not the best, but hey ,i have what I was given .But I totally disagree when you say its not difficult for some single blokes on here .My experience says different.

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By *ablo minibar123Woman over a year ago

"Would you meet a random unverified person off the net with no pics?

It is a very valid point, as a hell of a lot of people will view your profile before even deciding whether they read your message or not. They see you have no pictures on your profile, so don't open your message and see the ones on there

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By *hil most chillMan over a year ago

South East & Europe

Single guys just have a different problem from the women here. Women have to wade through acres of shit to find one guy worth replying to, and men have to craft each message perfectly and have an excellent profile just to be considered.

As a man I've found the forums invaluable for

a) learning what makes a good profile, pics etc, and

b) getting my personality out there, which has led to meets

What I don't do is moan about stuff here (unless I'm clearly joking), as negative vibes put everyone off immediately. And you should use the fact that 95% of men on this site don't know how to take a photo or write a legible sentence to your advantage.

Patience is key. Most will still not reply to you, but if you have a decent profile and pics, and write tailored, interesting messages, sooner or later you'll get a hit.

I'm not the best looking guy on here either, but I do get messages and meets every now and then. If I can do it, you can too.

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By *ittleshit-SteveMan over a year ago

Devon

Probably already been mentioned but there are bound to be some great social events on near you.

It's a good way to meet new people and to get yourself known on the scene.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its not hard for single guys its just theirs 1000.00000 men for 1000 women .. and most of them don't understand a no.. women get extra cautious i dont blame them. "

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By *he Gentleman 84Man over a year ago

North East

OP I think it’s hard for us single Fellas full stop these days regardless of this site, a dating site or the general world when it comes to the fairer Sex. The good ones are usually taken I’ve been single a whole wanted the fun without too much commitment & I agree it’s difficult for a singleton but wouldn’t say it’s down to the areas your putting yourself down for pal!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So much information here that nothing I'll say is new but in general it's the same ol' thread which comes up from time to time. And I think this issue presents itself to everyone. More men complain because there are significantly more men so statistically it makes sense.

I personally haven't found fab any more difficult than meeting people (women and couples) in the real world.

I'd wager people who can't do this in person think it's easier online. First misconception of many.

It could be easier, if you have a good personality and able to bring that across. At least on fabs you're able to have a conversation without the other side judging you on your looks for a little while. Many people will pick personality over looks and I've found that here and in the real world. So if you've managed to do that then great.

All the complaining about not liking clubs or parties. Ok, I get that, but what about a social? In the real world would you sit in your house waiting for people to find you? As much as you don't like it, maybe one or two to get your foot in the door because clearly the other way isn't working for you at least.

I read the entire thread and know everything else I'd say has been said.

Not that it matters or I care but I left fabs with lots of veris and meets and even a few friends I still keep in touch with and returned looking for something different so not interested in having multiple veris displayed but I am still able to initiate first contact and get replies and hold conversations with women and couples. Does everyone respond, no but so what?

I don't take it personal and others shouldn't either.

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By *azmar62Couple over a year ago

Hinckley

"If you think you're ugly and not big enough, what chance have you got of convincing anyone else otherwise?"

A brilliant response.

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By *azmar62Couple over a year ago

Hinckley

"So much information here that nothing I'll say is new but in general it's the same ol' thread which comes up from time to time. And I think this issue presents itself to everyone. More men complain because there are significantly more men so statistically it makes sense.

I personally haven't found fab any more difficult than meeting people (women and couples) in the real world.

I'd wager people who can't do this in person think it's easier online. First misconception of many.

I read the entire thread and know everything else I'd say has been said.

I don't take it personal and others shouldn't either.

Well said.

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By *ick-Dastardly-Man over a year ago

A whole world of Shit.

Shall we all have a single male Sunday moan today?

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By *iss DevilWoman over a year ago

Bedford

"Shall we all have a single male Sunday moan today? "

Go on then, say it once and then forever hold your peace

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By *ancs29Man over a year ago

oldham

The problem on this site i think maybe multipole firstly there are hundreds of guys looking for anther notch on there bed post and constantly bombarding single women and couples second to many fake accounts thirdly to many piss takers and people that chat about meeting and DO NOT TURN UP TO A MEET this has a negative impression with genuine people fourth age to many genuine guys seem to get shoved to one side without a second look fith white women now seem to be wanting another colour so as you see thats why single guys have a very hard time getting to be lucky enough to even get a reply on fap totally understandable dont get me wrong i totally feel for the single women and couples on fab.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The problem on this site i think maybe multipole firstly there are hundreds of guys looking for anther notch on there bed post and constantly bombarding single women and couples second to many fake accounts thirdly to many piss takers and people that chat about meeting and DO NOT TURN UP TO A MEET this has a negative impression with genuine people fourth age to many genuine guys seem to get shoved to one side without a second look fith white women now seem to be wanting another colour so as you see thats why single guys have a very hard time getting to be lucky enough to even get a reply on fap totally understandable dont get me wrong i totally feel for the single women and couples on fab."

But I maintain that all of these things even if we accept as issues, exist in the real world.

-Guys have been looking to add notches to their bed post for generations.

-women hounded by loads of guys

-people having preference.

-people passing themselves as something they are not?

Come on. These aren't Internet age issues. From where I sit I think it's potentially even more difficult as a couple. They often have to find someone that both are happy with. You see all the profiles saying Mr picks or Mrs must also approve.

Single women have to also worry about their safety. How many guys can say they were worried about safety. Not saying they should but personally I think people are focusing on the wrong thing.

There's nothing wrong with the site, people need to focus on their communication skills and themselves. That's what really is the issue but it's easier to blame everyone else.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But I maintain that all of these things even if we accept as issues, exist in the real world.

-Guys have been looking to add notches to their bed post for generations.

-women hounded by loads of guys

-people having preference.

-people passing themselves as something they are not?

Single women have to also worry about their safety. How many guys can say they were worried about safety. Not saying they should but personally I think people are focusing on the wrong thing.

There's nothing wrong with the site, people need to focus on their communication skills and themselves. That's what really is the issue but it's easier to blame everyone else. "

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By *ancs29Man over a year ago

oldham

I was merely pointing out a few things that I have personally come across as I have been searching over the last 12 months on this site and the potential problems they may cause the single male I totally understand that single females on this site will concentrate on their safety first and that couples both parties have to be in agreement with the person that their wife are there will potentially meet I was not having a goal personally I was just stating observations that I have found as I have been looking and the responses that I have managed to get which I must say aren't numerous but the majority refer to **** size too small looking for over 8 inches I know that that is the personal preference to the wives not the husbands and that is totally the decision but as a single guy that constantly makes me feel inferior size wise And I do respect the decisions totally I personally get over the not backs that I receive and keep on trying that's all you can do on this site and other sites I do hope I do get to chat and walk for a socialise maybe take it further with a single lady or a couple at some point I keep trying all I can do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was merely pointing out a few things that I have personally come across as I have been searching over the last 12 months on this site and the potential problems they may cause the single male I totally understand that single females on this site will concentrate on their safety first and that couples both parties have to be in agreement with the person that their wife are there will potentially meet I was not having a goal personally I was just stating observations that I have found as I have been looking and the responses that I have managed to get which I must say aren't numerous but the majority refer to **** size too small looking for over 8 inches I know that that is the personal preference to the wives not the husbands and that is totally the decision but as a single guy that constantly makes me feel inferior size wise And I do respect the decisions totally I personally get over the not backs that I receive and keep on trying that's all you can do on this site and other sites I do hope I do get to chat and walk for a socialise maybe take it further with a single lady or a couple at some point I keep trying all I can do "

There are threads on here asking about size women find attractive. Do a search and see the numbers that are NOT looking for anything close to that. Several are not interested in men with large sizes.

Similarly I always read profiles before messaging and several also say not interested in black men etc.

That's good, it's their preference. Doesn't mean anything other than what they find attractive. Nothing to get worked up or blame the site for. Just move on. These people would be out in the real world as well. At least here they've given you a cheat sheet to what they are after. Out there it would be a guessing game.

You'd really have to be skilled then to pull wouldn't you.

I take your point on observations but I think while you have identified what you perceive as trends I think they are inaccurate.

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By *ick-Dastardly-Man over a year ago

A whole world of Shit.

This is getting hard to read for a pleb like me.

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By *ENGUYMan over a year ago

Hull

To the OP and other guys who are experiencing similar issues, may I say, your situation is nothing new and will continue, unless you try to change!

I have been on FAB for over 13 years and YES, i experienced exactly what you have too. It can be deflating at times, getting nowhere!

But as others have so rightly said, it's a numbers game! Guts, in your own regional area, you are up against 100's, or 1000's of other guys all seeking the same aim!

So many guys appear to join FAB with an expectation it will be a route to "Instant Shag"; it ISN'T!!

You effectively have to make yourself stand out above the rest to succeed.

Profiles are like a Job CV. On FAB, they are just as crucial.

Say what you can offer to others but ALSO say what you'd expect.

Guys, forget thinking that all what ladies want to see are pictures of your cock on your Profile; they don't! Move those to the Friends file as reserve!

Don't say anything negatively in your profile as it can put potential players off! No matter how you feel, you have to sound positive. Your Profile is only part of how to "SELL YOURSELF" to others.

It's been suggested by others about attending Group Socials in your area or Clubs.

Local or regional Socials are essential options. They can be a springboard to success. You get to meet other people of similar mindsets. It doesn't mean you get an Instant Meet, but it means you GET NOTICED!!

Same with Clubs! It's getting yourself NOTICED!

Yes, Clubs can be difficult for those who are shy or uncertain, but you have to try. Even if as I did at my first club visit, I just chatted to people, it earned me a Verification, as I expressed myself and showed my true self. That one Veri led to meets!

Guys, whatever you take on board from here, do yourselves credit, by implementing some or all of what others have suggested. All too often, as I've seen in ages, those whingeing about lack of meets, can often not change anything about themselves, their profile or how to interact?

FAB does work for almost everyone, but you have to put in the effort and work at it!

Or put it another way, I'm 68 and still getting meets by adopting what I've suggested above!

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By *ife NinjaMan over a year ago

Dunfermline

"To the OP and other guys who are experiencing similar issues, may I say, your situation is nothing new and will continue, unless you try to change!