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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So I'm pretty new still here but I have a question that I kinda don't understand....
Some couples host various group events such as gangbangs and the like and charge per person. Now I can understand that the hotel cost needs to be covered and some other things but... when there's clearly going to be a major profit made...
Is this abusing the facilities of this website to make a little cash while the misses gets everything she wants? Surely she wants to have a gangbang just as much as any other participant but is making money while doing so? Is this right? |
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"So I'm pretty new still here but I have a question that I kinda don't understand....
Some couples host various group events such as gangbangs and the like and charge per person. Now I can understand that the hotel cost needs to be covered and some other things but... when there's clearly going to be a major profit made...
Is this abusing the facilities of this website to make a little cash while the misses gets everything she wants? Surely she wants to have a gangbang just as much as any other participant but is making money while doing so? Is this right?"
OK - organise one your self and don't charge or don't participate, Z |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So I'm pretty new still here but I have a question that I kinda don't understand....
Some couples host various group events such as gangbangs and the like and charge per person. Now I can understand that the hotel cost needs to be covered and some other things but... when there's clearly going to be a major profit made...
Is this abusing the facilities of this website to make a little cash while the misses gets everything she wants? Surely she wants to have a gangbang just as much as any other participant but is making money while doing so? Is this right?
OK - organise one your self and don't charge or don't participate, Z"
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"I understand sharing the costs, but my question was more asking peoples opinions on profit-making via this."
How would you know if they were making a profit and if they were but you had a whale of a time, would it matter? Z |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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How would you know if they were making a profit and if they were but you had a whale of a time, would it matter? Z"
Price of admission, number of people going, and the venue cost.... kinda tells you profit/loss quite easily.
I'd feel a bit taken advantage of in that situation. Why should everyone except the couple pay to be there? Or is it considered that the organising part of it is their payment to be there? But then they profit on it as well so... is organising it so much of a task that payment is necessary on top of enjoying the event? |
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How would you know if they were making a profit and if they were but you had a whale of a time, would it matter? Z
Price of admission, number of people going, and the venue cost.... kinda tells you profit/loss quite easily.
I'd feel a bit taken advantage of in that situation. Why should everyone except the couple pay to be there? Or is it considered that the organising part of it is their payment to be there? But then they profit on it as well so... is organising it so much of a task that payment is necessary on top of enjoying the event?"
To answer your questions in order: Because they organised it, yes, yes probably. If you've ever tried to organise something like a party or a gang bang you may have a better understanding. Z |
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"in my opinion
covers cost
profit making  
I agree."
Do you visit swinging clubs? Do you resent paying because they sure as heck will be making a profit! Can't understand this attitude - if you don't agree - don't go - simple! Z |
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"ours are always totally free - we provide the booze, venue and food ..... others incur cost in getting here"
That's absoltely the best way to go, however if people want to pay to attend certain parties etc- surely they can? Z |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i will not go to parties where they charge men to go, i have had quite a few invites to such events, the way i see it is if they are charging men £40/£50 each to get in and asking me if id like to come along for free they just want me as entertainment for their paying guests, which i wont do, dont get me wrong i like house parties but not ones where people are making money out of me going |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"ours are always totally free - we provide the booze, venue and food ..... others incur cost in getting here"
In that situation I'd be more than happy to put money towards a chunk of the cost, as of course it can add up (especially booze).
I'm guessing as there isn't many replies on this that most people just don't have an opinion or care which is cool. I might have to start up a business...  |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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I thought if they were being advertised to make a profit, the site were actually against it and needed to be reported
but hey, I could be wrong
clubs advertised as a business, then I would suggest with face declaration of income for tax purposes |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I thought if they were being advertised to make a profit, the site were actually against it and needed to be reported
but hey, I could be wrong
clubs advertised as a business, then I would suggest with face declaration of income for tax purposes"
i would think the same
If a couples having a house party and charging men £40/£50 to go then they are clearly using the site to make money which as far as i know ids against the sites rules
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i will not go to parties where they charge men to go, i have had quite a few invites to such events, the way i see it is if they are charging men £40/£50 each to get in and asking me if id like to come along for free they just want me as entertainment for their paying guests, which i wont do, dont get me wrong i like house parties but not ones where people are making money out of me going"
Totally agree |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" dont get me wrong i like house parties but not ones where people are making money out of me going"
Exactly so, I'd _iew it as a form of pimping by the organisers if someone is paying to attend a party and they have sex with me who has not paid. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There is no real business to be made at all even charging the top rate as suggested not when all expenses are included.
No one in their right mind would think they could make a business organising a gang bang.
I have no problem with people charging to cover costs whatever their personal expense is, it will also sort out time wasters.
But also open to abuse as we have heard where money is taken upfront as a scam.
So my advice, we have paid to attend a party, was it was worth it after we also incurred petrol and hotel costs, possibly not but we made the choice to.
Would we ever pay upfront, no of course not.
We have not charged or held a party but if we did a minimal fee for food and merely holding the event would be asked, which also includes sheets etc and any damage we may incur during the party, not everyone is considerate.
Trust your instincts and if someone is asking for a ridiculous amount pay instead for an escort. |
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Would you pay to go to a vanilla house party? Probably not.
Would you chip in with a group of vanilla friends to share the cost of a hotel room? Yes
Would you expect your vanilla friends to make a profit from having a house party or sharing a hotel room? Definitely not. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If I enjoy myself and am willing to pay I really couldnt care less if they make a profit. If they do more power to them. If my play can enrich someones wallet I see nothing wrong with that at all."
aint swinging though is it?
might aswell get a brass |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What do I get for £4.79?
oh go on then i'll let you lick my muff for that 
Ooooh! You get 20 minutes non stop erotic cabaret. *does tongue exercises*....  "
whoo hoo
*gets pants off ready* |
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"Organizing any event is a hassle. Done it many times. By the time you add in the time spent to organize i am willing to bet they aint making a lot of bank doing it"
Go to Alabama....check out what you get for a "yard" lol. |
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"What do I get for £4.79?
oh go on then i'll let you lick my muff for that
Ooooh! You get 20 minutes non stop erotic cabaret. *does tongue exercises*....
whoo hoo
*gets pants off ready* "
No, no....I pull them off with my teeth. Grrrrrr..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"ours are always totally free - we provide the booze, venue and food ..... others incur cost in getting here"
We do the same. Wouldn't dream of asking guys to pay money. They incur travelling expenses and we all have a good time hopefully. Not even asked if we were in a hotel room , as we have stayed overnight. Wouldn't dream of profit making on fab when we're swinging.
Conversely if we have a meet booked for escorting thats different. Both parties know the score from the start.
The two to us should not be confused. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm guessing as there isn't many replies on this that most people just don't have an opinion or care which is cool. I might have to start up a business... "
Possibly people were put off with the grumpy replies further up the thread. 
I reckon if costs are covered- fair enough.
If people are clearly making a massive profit- dodgy.
However it's up to people as to whether they pay or not. If they want to pay then let them I guess. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i will not go to parties where they charge men to go, i have had quite a few invites to such events, the way i see it is if they are charging men £40/£50 each to get in and asking me if id like to come along for free they just want me as entertainment for their paying guests, which i wont do, dont get me wrong i like house parties but not ones where people are making money out of me going"
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I held a gangbang and asked for voluntary donations towards the costs. I put a money box on the side and left it to each person to decide.
I provided drinks, snacks, condoms and lube (a few took some spares with them!) and sorted the hotel room with free parking and made all the arrangements.
As far as I'm aware everyone put something in and noone minded. When I tallied up later it about covered all the costs.
I could understand if they asked for a tenner or so a head to cover costs but anymore and it's getting pricy - for 40 or 50 quid you can get your own hotel room and arrange your own.  |
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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago
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"So I'm pretty new still here but I have a question that I kinda don't understand....
Some couples host various group events such as gangbangs and the like and charge per person. Now I can understand that the hotel cost needs to be covered and some other things but... when there's clearly going to be a major profit made...
Is this abusing the facilities of this website to make a little cash while the misses gets everything she wants? Surely she wants to have a gangbang just as much as any other participant but is making money while doing so? Is this right?"
It's no sin to make a profit and if peeps are prepared to pay and everyone's having fun, then everyone's a winner. No problem.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i doubt seriously that someone makes a profit from a one off party..or rare parties. perhaps if its a daily,weekly thing u could argue theres something suspicious |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I dont go to houseparties after I went to one and the men had indeed been charged and I was there with another Domme and a sub girl as some kind of free entertainment.
I dont object to a little gratis gift for the organisers but tributes of anything more than that are obviously someone working to organise the party for profit, whether they make one is a moot point.
Whether the OP finds that distasteful and wishes not to attend is down to him, he has to make his own mind up, as do we all.
He was only asking for opinions, I assume in an effort not to get ripped off.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've tried to organise a gangbang on here as recently as last month. I thought it would work well as there's bugger all scene up here and people would like the idea. I got a travelodge room for £30 as I booked it early. Advertised on here and trawled the local guys. Was going to supply condoms, lube, food and drink so asked for a small donation to cover those costs. (£2-3 as I figured on up to ten participants)
I had a grand total of 5 positive responses. And as anyone who's organised these things before will know,that translates to 2 people actually turning up, and probably not both at the same time.
So I think charging is not too much of an issue, it's getting the thing off the ground in the first place. But if you agree to go to one and they say they're charging a tenner, it's held in a travelodge, and there's 10 guys there then you know there's a profit being made, not cost covering.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So I'm pretty new still here but I have a question that I kinda don't understand....
Some couples host various group events such as gangbangs and the like and charge per person. Now I can understand that the hotel cost needs to be covered and some other things but... when there's clearly going to be a major profit made...
Is this abusing the facilities of this website to make a little cash while the misses gets everything she wants? Surely she wants to have a gangbang just as much as any other participant but is making money while doing so? Is this right?"
Well I agree,
Clubs yes they make a proffit but they not making a proffit selling sex as such but the useage of there facilities just like any vanilla club would.
However if you are going to go to a private party and you are paying over the odds of the running costs of the event then you are in affect paying for sex.
And what does paying for sex equate to?
Sorry nobody would change our minds on this and yes, we do avoid them and it's why we don't go to private functions. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If this kind of thing was being done by a Domme on a bdsm website the site would call it financial bdsm or professional work. Covering costs is one thing, but profits are a different enterprise.
All the same, so long as the OP can figure out whether he wants to pay someone a possible profit for the benefit of a bang.... The rest is up to him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So I'm pretty new still here but I have a question that I kinda don't understand....
Some couples host various group events such as gangbangs and the like and charge per person. Now I can understand that the hotel cost needs to be covered and some other things but... when there's clearly going to be a major profit made...
Is this abusing the facilities of this website to make a little cash while the misses gets everything she wants? Surely she wants to have a gangbang just as much as any other participant but is making money while doing so? Is this right?
Well I agree,
Clubs yes they make a proffit but they not making a proffit selling sex as such but the useage of there facilities just like any vanilla club would.
However if you are going to go to a private party and you are paying over the odds of the running costs of the event then you are in affect paying for sex.
And what does paying for sex equate to?
Sorry nobody would change our minds on this and yes, we do avoid them and it's why we don't go to private functions."
Just a small point but I take it that most clubs are registered for tax and VAT purposes. Unlike the profit that comes from parties... (if any) which would go where? Someone's back pocket tax free.   |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just a small point but I take it that most clubs are registered for tax and VAT purposes. Unlike the profit that comes from parties... (if any) which would go where? Someone's back pocket tax free. "
Yes thats true, I think also adult clubs have to pay more for there licensing as an adult club but don't quote me on that |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i will not go to parties where they charge men to go, i have had quite a few invites to such events, the way i see it is if they are charging men £40/£50 each to get in and asking me if id like to come along for free they just want me as entertainment for their paying guests, which i wont do, dont get me wrong i like house parties but not ones where people are making money out of me going"
I agree with you. It may feel as thiugh they're inviting you along to keep the guys..(who have all paid, so want to ****someone) happy.... |
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By *habsMan
over a year ago
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"i will not go to parties where they charge men to go, i have had quite a few invites to such events, the way i see it is if they are charging men £40/£50 each to get in and asking me if id like to come along for free they just want me as entertainment for their paying guests, which i wont do, dont get me wrong i like house parties but not ones where people are making money out of me going
I agree with you. It may feel as thiugh they're inviting you along to keep the guys..(who have all paid, so want to ****someone) happy...."
Sadly, its the same the same thinking that causes some men to go "Oh, but I've paid my money on the door" , ie "I'm entitled to a shag". Sure... best jog on to the nearest brothel then, this ain't that sort of party! |
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