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over a year ago
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house...."
Tell me you don't understand consent without saying it... |
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over a year ago
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"My postman opens my door and leaves the parcel in my hall so have been caught out a few times
Have you tried locking it?"
Why? that means I wouldn’t get my parcels |
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house....
Tell me you don't understand consent without saying it... "
Why would i need consent to answer tge door in a towel? Dont be rediculous |
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house....
Tell me you don't understand consent without saying it...
Why would i need consent to answer tge door in a towel? Dont be rediculous"
Remind me not to send my kids round yours on Halloween |
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house....
Tell me you don't understand consent without saying it...
Why would i need consent to answer tge door in a towel? Dont be rediculous
Remind me not to send my kids round yours on Halloween "
rediculous statement to make |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have quite often met the postman or postwoman and occasionally a delivery man at the door in a pretty nightie and knickers, but nothing indecent. The postwoman has actually become a friend and drops in to see us occasionally. |
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Yes, once opened the door completely starkers,after a heavy night, to the cab driver who had come to run us to the airport. He had been banging for ages and I woke up startled and just went running to the door.
Was a total accident though and not done on purpose. |
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A couple of tales
Firstly
I once answered the front door to a couple of ladies from the Jehovah's Witnesses
It was a Saturday morning and I had been to the gym which was across the road from the flat we used to live in
And had just finished having a bath
When our doorbell rang
A neighbour??
I thought
I opened the door wearing just a bath towel
And was greeted by two ladies
One a little older than me
But the other a much younger lady
As the older one told me who they were
I chatted with her but looked at the younger lady
I did have a fairly fit body in those days!!!
And she was looking with a smile on her face
I discussed a few things that I wasn’t happy with
In regards to their beliefs etc
But the older lady didn’t seem in a hurry to leave
However after fifteen minutes
They did so
And as they turned to ring my neighbours doorbell
The younger one
Took a final look!!!
Running her eyes up and down!!
I smiled at her
And she returned the compliment
Perhaps I was hoping she would call again one Saturday morning
To continue trying to convince me
But sadly not |
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"A couple of tales
Firstly
I once answered the front door to a couple of ladies from the Jehovah's Witnesses
It was a Saturday morning and I had been to the gym which was across the road from the flat we used to live in
And had just finished having a bath
When our doorbell rang
A neighbour??
I thought
I opened the door wearing just a bath towel
And was greeted by two ladies
One a little older than me
But the other a much younger lady
As the older one told me who they were
I chatted with her but looked at the younger lady
I did have a fairly fit body in those days!!!
And she was looking with a smile on her face
I discussed a few things that I wasn’t happy with
In regards to their beliefs etc
But the older lady didn’t seem in a hurry to leave
However after fifteen minutes
They did so
And as they turned to ring my neighbours doorbell
The younger one
Took a final look!!!
Running her eyes up and down!!
I smiled at her
And she returned the compliment
Perhaps I was hoping she would call again one Saturday morning
To continue trying to convince me
But sadly not "
Pretty sure that only counts as one tale!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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So my second tale is this one
Katie was getting ready to go out for the evening with her colleagues from work
When she said
I can’t remember if I told Sue I was going out tonight??
I can’t remember if I cancelled??
Sue is an older friend of Katie’s
And she would usually come up for a chat and cuppa once a month
Ah well!!!
If she does come up
You’ll have to entertain her!!!
Or tell her to give me a ring and I’ll rearrange!!
Katie then went out for the evening
I wasn’t sure???
Should I??
Or not??
Entertain her
Sue had been visiting for a couple of years
And as we lived in a flat
She too had seen me dressed in just a Bath towel as I exited the bathroom opposite our lounge door
I decided I’d see what happened
And as normal I had my evening bath
As I contemplated
The doorbell rang
I thought
Should I??
Or not??
As it rang again I got out of the bath
Wrapping a towel around myself I walked to the door
As I opened it she had gone
But she was only just on the stairwell landing below me
I walked over to the handrail
And said
Katie has gone out tonight
She wasn’t sure if she had told you
As I said that
Sue looked up at me
You mind that towel doesn’t fall down!!
She said
Why??
Would it embarrass you???
It wouldn’t embarrass me she replied
Tell Katie i give her a call
I was so tempted to allow the towel to fall
But i decided not to push it
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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house...."
As we pointed out in another thread it really is worth reading the law. If you deliberately or intentionally expose yourself whether inside or outside your house knowing that someone is likely to see you it is indecent exposure and could see you with a criminal record and/or on the sex offenders register. Swinging involves consenting adults not unsuspecting passers by. |
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house...."
This all falls under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act.
It carries a punishment of up to 2 years in prison, and being put on the Sexual Offenders register.
So it is no joke.
It is defined as an offence if a person "Intentionally exposes their genitals in front of others"
It doesn't matter if you're on your doorstep because - or even inside your own home, if a person in the street or coming to your door can see your genitals, then that is deemed a public place - because you've exposed your genitals to an unsuspecting member of the public.
If you answer the door to anyone naked that is definitely a criminal offence. Just as if you sit or stand near a window, and people can see you naked from the street or even your driveway - that's also an offence.
If your bits are properly covered and can't be seen, even if you're just in your pants, then it isn't an offence.
So answering the door in heels, stockings and suspenders without knickers is an offence, doing it with knickers isn't an offence.
So think before you flash - it's probably not worth getting your self on the sexual offenders register for such a cheap thrill. |
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By *abluesbabyMan
over a year ago
Gibraltar/Cheshire/London |
Hate to be the party-pooper but its a, at best, potentially a foolish game to play. Of course I "get" your side of it being a dare and naughty and exciting.
But spare a thought for your "victim". They're just doing a job and sure some may love your little prank and smirk along with you. Others may not. It may offend their religious sensibilities or even moral - not that anyone has that as right as such but us in a society could maybe all work to not cause any deliberate disharmony. Other thing is would you be happy if someone was doing this and exposing themselves to say your parents? Your children? Just a thought...
Lastly do be aware being naked in public is not an offence UNLESS someone reports it as such. To this end you could be answering the door to a smirking pizza delivery guy - but - on the street is a mother with 2 small children. Ok, the delivery guy doesn't mind but the mum does and suddenly you could end up on the sex offenders register...
Like I say I don't want to be a killjoy... I love sexy games! But I am also aware of consequences to actions. |
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The post woman caught us having sex on the staircase once (full length glass front door). Wasn't our intention, we just got horny in the hallway and got carried away with it. Didn't consider anyone coming to the door. First we knew was the sound of the post flap (we had our backs to the door Mrs bent over the stairs at the time). She was a true professional, delivered our post unabashed and calmly carried on her way. |
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"Hate to be the party-pooper but its a, at best, potentially a foolish game to play. Of course I "get" your side of it being a dare and naughty and exciting.
But spare a thought for your "victim". They're just doing a job and sure some may love your little prank and smirk along with you. Others may not. It may offend their religious sensibilities or even moral - not that anyone has that as right as such but us in a society could maybe all work to not cause any deliberate disharmony. Other thing is would you be happy if someone was doing this and exposing themselves to say your parents? Your children? Just a thought...
Lastly do be aware being naked in public is not an offence UNLESS someone reports it as such. To this end you could be answering the door to a smirking pizza delivery guy - but - on the street is a mother with 2 small children. Ok, the delivery guy doesn't mind but the mum does and suddenly you could end up on the sex offenders register...
Like I say I don't want to be a killjoy... I love sexy games! But I am also aware of consequences to actions. "
Very sound advice. It's so easy to forget that not everyone has the open mind that everyone into swinging does, and being flashed may well scare the life out of someone!
I'm still thinking about getting a moped and doing the late shift at domino's though! |
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I, Sasha, was meeting a guy from here and waiting for the dress I wanted to wear to arrive. Time getting on meant that I needed to do my makeup hair etc and had put on my lingerie…. There was a knock at the door … shit… I don’t want them to go but there’s no hiding the outfit makeup etc. I just thought ‘bollocks to it’ and answered the door ..took the parcel from a seemingly surprised delivery lady! Didn’t have much time to think of it as my guest was due! |
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By *abluesbabyMan
over a year ago
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"Hate to be the party-pooper but its a, at best, potentially a foolish game to play. Of course I "get" your side of it being a dare and naughty and exciting.
But spare a thought for your "victim". They're just doing a job and sure some may love your little prank and smirk along with you. Others may not. It may offend their religious sensibilities or even moral - not that anyone has that as right as such but us in a society could maybe all work to not cause any deliberate disharmony. Other thing is would you be happy if someone was doing this and exposing themselves to say your parents? Your children? Just a thought...
Lastly do be aware being naked in public is not an offence UNLESS someone reports it as such. To this end you could be answering the door to a smirking pizza delivery guy - but - on the street is a mother with 2 small children. Ok, the delivery guy doesn't mind but the mum does and suddenly you could end up on the sex offenders register...
Like I say I don't want to be a killjoy... I love sexy games! But I am also aware of consequences to actions.
Very sound advice. It's so easy to forget that not everyone has the open mind that everyone into swinging does, and being flashed may well scare the life out of someone!
I'm still thinking about getting a moped and doing the late shift at domino's though!"
A mate I used to work with's brother got made redundant so to tide him over he took a job dropping off Avon orders.
He said it was on average about 3 to 5 a week he got... as in either bored housewives or single ladies handing him a post-it note usually with a telephone number and rough guide to times they were free with their payment! |
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"Hate to be the party-pooper but its a, at best, potentially a foolish game to play. Of course I "get" your side of it being a dare and naughty and exciting.
But spare a thought for your "victim". They're just doing a job and sure some may love your little prank and smirk along with you. Others may not. It may offend their religious sensibilities or even moral - not that anyone has that as right as such but us in a society could maybe all work to not cause any deliberate disharmony. Other thing is would you be happy if someone was doing this and exposing themselves to say your parents? Your children? Just a thought...
Lastly do be aware being naked in public is not an offence UNLESS someone reports it as such. To this end you could be answering the door to a smirking pizza delivery guy - but - on the street is a mother with 2 small children. Ok, the delivery guy doesn't mind but the mum does and suddenly you could end up on the sex offenders register...
Like I say I don't want to be a killjoy... I love sexy games! But I am also aware of consequences to actions.
Very sound advice. It's so easy to forget that not everyone has the open mind that everyone into swinging does, and being flashed may well scare the life out of someone!
I'm still thinking about getting a moped and doing the late shift at domino's though!
A mate I used to work with's brother got made redundant so to tide him over he took a job dropping off Avon orders.
He said it was on average about 3 to 5 a week he got... as in either bored housewives or single ladies handing him a post-it note usually with a telephone number and rough guide to times they were free with their payment! "
I bet he was knee deep in clunge at caravan club too. |
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"Hate to be the party-pooper but its a, at best, potentially a foolish game to play. Of course I "get" your side of it being a dare and naughty and exciting.
But spare a thought for your "victim". They're just doing a job and sure some may love your little prank and smirk along with you. Others may not. It may offend their religious sensibilities or even moral - not that anyone has that as right as such but us in a society could maybe all work to not cause any deliberate disharmony. Other thing is would you be happy if someone was doing this and exposing themselves to say your parents? Your children? Just a thought...
Lastly do be aware being naked in public is not an offence UNLESS someone reports it as such. To this end you could be answering the door to a smirking pizza delivery guy - but - on the street is a mother with 2 small children. Ok, the delivery guy doesn't mind but the mum does and suddenly you could end up on the sex offenders register...
Like I say I don't want to be a killjoy... I love sexy games! But I am also aware of consequences to actions.
Very sound advice. It's so easy to forget that not everyone has the open mind that everyone into swinging does, and being flashed may well scare the life out of someone!
I'm still thinking about getting a moped and doing the late shift at domino's though!
A mate I used to work with's brother got made redundant so to tide him over he took a job dropping off Avon orders.
He said it was on average about 3 to 5 a week he got... as in either bored housewives or single ladies handing him a post-it note usually with a telephone number and rough guide to times they were free with their payment!
I bet he was knee deep in clunge at caravan club too."
I can't comment on caravans, know nothing about them - but - if its stories you after ask window cleaners about their experiences! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house....
Tell me you don't understand consent without saying it...
Why would i need consent to answer tge door in a towel? Dont be rediculous
Remind me not to send my kids round yours on Halloween "
Wow that’s such disturbing and dangerous statement to make |
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By *XZRMan
over a year ago
Highland |
"Hate to be the party-pooper but its a, at best, potentially a foolish game to play. Of course I "get" your side of it being a dare and naughty and exciting.
But spare a thought for your "victim". They're just doing a job and sure some may love your little prank and smirk along with you. Others may not. It may offend their religious sensibilities or even moral - not that anyone has that as right as such but us in a society could maybe all work to not cause any deliberate disharmony. Other thing is would you be happy if someone was doing this and exposing themselves to say your parents? Your children? Just a thought...
Lastly do be aware being naked in public is not an offence UNLESS someone reports it as such. To this end you could be answering the door to a smirking pizza delivery guy - but - on the street is a mother with 2 small children. Ok, the delivery guy doesn't mind but the mum does and suddenly you could end up on the sex offenders register...
Like I say I don't want to be a killjoy... I love sexy games! But I am also aware of consequences to actions.
Very sound advice. It's so easy to forget that not everyone has the open mind that everyone into swinging does, and being flashed may well scare the life out of someone!
I'm still thinking about getting a moped and doing the late shift at domino's though!
A mate I used to work with's brother got made redundant so to tide him over he took a job dropping off Avon orders.
He said it was on average about 3 to 5 a week he got... as in either bored housewives or single ladies handing him a post-it note usually with a telephone number and rough guide to times they were free with their payment!
I bet he was knee deep in clunge at caravan club too."
So many he ended up toe fucking one of them |
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"My postman opens my door and leaves the parcel in my hall so have been caught out a few times
What was postman's reaction? "
Nothing he leaves the parcel then goes |
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By *aizyWoman
over a year ago
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"Hate to be the party-pooper but its a, at best, potentially a foolish game to play. Of course I "get" your side of it being a dare and naughty and exciting.
But spare a thought for your "victim". They're just doing a job and sure some may love your little prank and smirk along with you. Others may not. It may offend their religious sensibilities or even moral - not that anyone has that as right as such but us in a society could maybe all work to not cause any deliberate disharmony. Other thing is would you be happy if someone was doing this and exposing themselves to say your parents? Your children? Just a thought...
Lastly do be aware being naked in public is not an offence UNLESS someone reports it as such. To this end you could be answering the door to a smirking pizza delivery guy - but - on the street is a mother with 2 small children. Ok, the delivery guy doesn't mind but the mum does and suddenly you could end up on the sex offenders register...
Like I say I don't want to be a killjoy... I love sexy games! But I am also aware of consequences to actions.
Very sound advice. It's so easy to forget that not everyone has the open mind that everyone into swinging does, and being flashed may well scare the life out of someone!
I'm still thinking about getting a moped and doing the late shift at domino's though!
A mate I used to work with's brother got made redundant so to tide him over he took a job dropping off Avon orders.
He said it was on average about 3 to 5 a week he got... as in either bored housewives or single ladies handing him a post-it note usually with a telephone number and rough guide to times they were free with their payment!
I bet he was knee deep in clunge at caravan club too."
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house....
This all falls under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act.
It carries a punishment of up to 2 years in prison, and being put on the Sexual Offenders register.
So it is no joke.
It is defined as an offence if a person "Intentionally exposes their genitals in front of others"
It doesn't matter if you're on your doorstep because - or even inside your own home, if a person in the street or coming to your door can see your genitals, then that is deemed a public place - because you've exposed your genitals to an unsuspecting member of the public.
If you answer the door to anyone naked that is definitely a criminal offence. Just as if you sit or stand near a window, and people can see you naked from the street or even your driveway - that's also an offence.
If your bits are properly covered and can't be seen, even if you're just in your pants, then it isn't an offence.
So answering the door in heels, stockings and suspenders without knickers is an offence, doing it with knickers isn't an offence.
So think before you flash - it's probably not worth getting your self on the sexual offenders register for such a cheap thrill. "
I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would put you in prison or onto a sexual offences register for opening your door naked.
In fact I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would not give the prosecuting legal team a very hard rough ride for wasting court time.
This law is not intended to go after people who are naked in their own house. It is perfectly legal to be naked in your own house - and actually anywhere else.
You might want to read: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/nudity-public-guidance-handling-cases-naturism |
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house....
This all falls under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act.
It carries a punishment of up to 2 years in prison, and being put on the Sexual Offenders register.
So it is no joke.
It is defined as an offence if a person "Intentionally exposes their genitals in front of others"
It doesn't matter if you're on your doorstep because - or even inside your own home, if a person in the street or coming to your door can see your genitals, then that is deemed a public place - because you've exposed your genitals to an unsuspecting member of the public.
If you answer the door to anyone naked that is definitely a criminal offence. Just as if you sit or stand near a window, and people can see you naked from the street or even your driveway - that's also an offence.
If your bits are properly covered and can't be seen, even if you're just in your pants, then it isn't an offence.
So answering the door in heels, stockings and suspenders without knickers is an offence, doing it with knickers isn't an offence.
So think before you flash - it's probably not worth getting your self on the sexual offenders register for such a cheap thrill.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would put you in prison or onto a sexual offences register for opening your door naked.
In fact I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would not give the prosecuting legal team a very hard rough ride for wasting court time.
This law is not intended to go after people who are naked in their own house. It is perfectly legal to be naked in your own house - and actually anywhere else.
You might want to read: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/nudity-public-guidance-handling-cases-naturism"
You might find this article titled "Man placed on sex offenders' register after answering door naked" from the Lancashire Telegraph of interest...
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/1852598.man-placed-sex-offenders-register-answering-door-naked/ |
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house....
This all falls under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act.
It carries a punishment of up to 2 years in prison, and being put on the Sexual Offenders register.
So it is no joke.
It is defined as an offence if a person "Intentionally exposes their genitals in front of others"
It doesn't matter if you're on your doorstep because - or even inside your own home, if a person in the street or coming to your door can see your genitals, then that is deemed a public place - because you've exposed your genitals to an unsuspecting member of the public.
If you answer the door to anyone naked that is definitely a criminal offence. Just as if you sit or stand near a window, and people can see you naked from the street or even your driveway - that's also an offence.
If your bits are properly covered and can't be seen, even if you're just in your pants, then it isn't an offence.
So answering the door in heels, stockings and suspenders without knickers is an offence, doing it with knickers isn't an offence.
So think before you flash - it's probably not worth getting your self on the sexual offenders register for such a cheap thrill.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would put you in prison or onto a sexual offences register for opening your door naked.
In fact I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would not give the prosecuting legal team a very hard rough ride for wasting court time.
This law is not intended to go after people who are naked in their own house. It is perfectly legal to be naked in your own house - and actually anywhere else.
You might want to read: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/nudity-public-guidance-handling-cases-naturism
You might find this article titled "Man placed on sex offenders' register after answering door naked" from the Lancashire Telegraph of interest...
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/1852598.man-placed-sex-offenders-register-answering-door-naked/"
That clearly doesn’t align with the base CPS guidance so I would assume there are additional circumstances that have not been reported. The paper implies that there has been a history of issues here so something has obviously gone on before hand that led to this outcome.
The fact remains that for someone going about normal life this would not be an out come you need to worry about. |
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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house....
This all falls under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act.
It carries a punishment of up to 2 years in prison, and being put on the Sexual Offenders register.
So it is no joke.
It is defined as an offence if a person "Intentionally exposes their genitals in front of others"
It doesn't matter if you're on your doorstep because - or even inside your own home, if a person in the street or coming to your door can see your genitals, then that is deemed a public place - because you've exposed your genitals to an unsuspecting member of the public.
If you answer the door to anyone naked that is definitely a criminal offence. Just as if you sit or stand near a window, and people can see you naked from the street or even your driveway - that's also an offence.
If your bits are properly covered and can't be seen, even if you're just in your pants, then it isn't an offence.
So answering the door in heels, stockings and suspenders without knickers is an offence, doing it with knickers isn't an offence.
So think before you flash - it's probably not worth getting your self on the sexual offenders register for such a cheap thrill.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would put you in prison or onto a sexual offences register for opening your door naked.
In fact I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would not give the prosecuting legal team a very hard rough ride for wasting court time.
This law is not intended to go after people who are naked in their own house. It is perfectly legal to be naked in your own house - and actually anywhere else.
You might want to read: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/nudity-public-guidance-handling-cases-naturism
You might find this article titled "Man placed on sex offenders' register after answering door naked" from the Lancashire Telegraph of interest...
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/1852598.man-placed-sex-offenders-register-answering-door-naked/
That clearly doesn’t align with the base CPS guidance so I would assume there are additional circumstances that have not been reported. The paper implies that there has been a history of issues here so something has obviously gone on before hand that led to this outcome.
The fact remains that for someone going about normal life this would not be an out come you need to worry about."
The law is perfectly capable of differentiating between inadvertent exposure and intentional exposure. The former is not illegal but the latter, which includes being naked and standing infront of a window or opening the door to someone is intentional and therefore illegal.
The fact remains that indecent exposure, or involving vanilla bystanders in personal kinks, is not swinging, so I wonder why the topic is even being discussed here. |
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house....
This all falls under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act.
It carries a punishment of up to 2 years in prison, and being put on the Sexual Offenders register.
So it is no joke.
It is defined as an offence if a person "Intentionally exposes their genitals in front of others"
It doesn't matter if you're on your doorstep because - or even inside your own home, if a person in the street or coming to your door can see your genitals, then that is deemed a public place - because you've exposed your genitals to an unsuspecting member of the public.
If you answer the door to anyone naked that is definitely a criminal offence. Just as if you sit or stand near a window, and people can see you naked from the street or even your driveway - that's also an offence.
If your bits are properly covered and can't be seen, even if you're just in your pants, then it isn't an offence.
So answering the door in heels, stockings and suspenders without knickers is an offence, doing it with knickers isn't an offence.
So think before you flash - it's probably not worth getting your self on the sexual offenders register for such a cheap thrill.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would put you in prison or onto a sexual offences register for opening your door naked.
In fact I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would not give the prosecuting legal team a very hard rough ride for wasting court time.
This law is not intended to go after people who are naked in their own house. It is perfectly legal to be naked in your own house - and actually anywhere else.
You might want to read: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/nudity-public-guidance-handling-cases-naturism
You might find this article titled "Man placed on sex offenders' register after answering door naked" from the Lancashire Telegraph of interest...
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/1852598.man-placed-sex-offenders-register-answering-door-naked/
That clearly doesn’t align with the base CPS guidance so I would assume there are additional circumstances that have not been reported. The paper implies that there has been a history of issues here so something has obviously gone on before hand that led to this outcome.
The fact remains that for someone going about normal life this would not be an out come you need to worry about."
Haha, I do like your "well I don't agree with the law so I believe the Judge and CPS were using another law" stance. It amuses me,
Look. You and the author are of course free to do as you will. And, yes, if you choose your times and moments carefully I dare say you can enjoy a long career of "teasing" people at your door uninhibited. You'll likely be perfectly fine as you suggest.
But please do not dismiss the very sound and legally binding warnings of POSSIBLE ramifications several people have thoughtfully given here as mere piffle, especially as people actually have all our best interests at heart and are trying to help. |
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By *ichtingleMan
over a year ago
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house....
This all falls under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act.
It carries a punishment of up to 2 years in prison, and being put on the Sexual Offenders register.
So it is no joke.
It is defined as an offence if a person "Intentionally exposes their genitals in front of others"
It doesn't matter if you're on your doorstep because - or even inside your own home, if a person in the street or coming to your door can see your genitals, then that is deemed a public place - because you've exposed your genitals to an unsuspecting member of the public.
If you answer the door to anyone naked that is definitely a criminal offence. Just as if you sit or stand near a window, and people can see you naked from the street or even your driveway - that's also an offence.
If your bits are properly covered and can't be seen, even if you're just in your pants, then it isn't an offence.
So answering the door in heels, stockings and suspenders without knickers is an offence, doing it with knickers isn't an offence.
So think before you flash - it's probably not worth getting your self on the sexual offenders register for such a cheap thrill.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would put you in prison or onto a sexual offences register for opening your door naked.
In fact I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would not give the prosecuting legal team a very hard rough ride for wasting court time.
This law is not intended to go after people who are naked in their own house. It is perfectly legal to be naked in your own house - and actually anywhere else.
You might want to read: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/nudity-public-guidance-handling-cases-naturism
You might find this article titled "Man placed on sex offenders' register after answering door naked" from the Lancashire Telegraph of interest...
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/1852598.man-placed-sex-offenders-register-answering-door-naked/
That clearly doesn’t align with the base CPS guidance so I would assume there are additional circumstances that have not been reported. The paper implies that there has been a history of issues here so something has obviously gone on before hand that led to this outcome.
The fact remains that for someone going about normal life this would not be an out come you need to worry about."
Now I admit I'm no legal expert. But. I am pretty sure I'm right in suggesting don't try using "That clearly doesn’t align with the base CPS guidance" as a defence when they slap the cuffs on you and throw you in the back of that white van with the nice bright blue lights on the roof!
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"Answering to whom? To unsuspecting people who did not consent, eg. delivery people or the postman?
Why woukd they need to consent? Its your house....
This all falls under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act.
It carries a punishment of up to 2 years in prison, and being put on the Sexual Offenders register.
So it is no joke.
It is defined as an offence if a person "Intentionally exposes their genitals in front of others"
It doesn't matter if you're on your doorstep because - or even inside your own home, if a person in the street or coming to your door can see your genitals, then that is deemed a public place - because you've exposed your genitals to an unsuspecting member of the public.
If you answer the door to anyone naked that is definitely a criminal offence. Just as if you sit or stand near a window, and people can see you naked from the street or even your driveway - that's also an offence.
If your bits are properly covered and can't be seen, even if you're just in your pants, then it isn't an offence.
So answering the door in heels, stockings and suspenders without knickers is an offence, doing it with knickers isn't an offence.
So think before you flash - it's probably not worth getting your self on the sexual offenders register for such a cheap thrill.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would put you in prison or onto a sexual offences register for opening your door naked.
In fact I think you would be hard pressed to find a judge who would not give the prosecuting legal team a very hard rough ride for wasting court time.
This law is not intended to go after people who are naked in their own house. It is perfectly legal to be naked in your own house - and actually anywhere else.
You might want to read: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/nudity-public-guidance-handling-cases-naturism
You might find this article titled "Man placed on sex offenders' register after answering door naked" from the Lancashire Telegraph of interest...
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/1852598.man-placed-sex-offenders-register-answering-door-naked/
That clearly doesn’t align with the base CPS guidance so I would assume there are additional circumstances that have not been reported. The paper implies that there has been a history of issues here so something has obviously gone on before hand that led to this outcome.
The fact remains that for someone going about normal life this would not be an out come you need to worry about.
Now I admit I'm no legal expert. But. I am pretty sure I'm right in suggesting don't try using "That clearly doesn’t align with the base CPS guidance" as a defence when they slap the cuffs on you and throw you in the back of that white van with the nice bright blue lights on the roof!
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I life model and have been naked in public many times. No handcuffs yet
You get put in jail for sexual activities. The guidance is clear that you don’t get put in jail for just being naked. |
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By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago
taunton somerset |
for a scene built on consent i find it sad that some think its ok not to give it in some kinks ... private property or public consent is consent and it comes unders the new laws of flashing the new laws cover it very well and im surprised this thread is still going if honest as i thought fab did not allow unlawful stuff to be talked about or pics or vids ...
wearing a towel is not flashing you have to be revealing your bits to be flashing |
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That clearly doesn’t align with the base CPS guidance so I would assume there are additional circumstances that have not been reported. The paper implies that there has been a history of issues here so something has obviously gone on before hand that led to this outcome.
The fact remains that for someone going about normal life this would not be an out come you need to worry about.
Haha, I do like your "well I don't agree with the law so I believe the Judge and CPS were using another law" stance. It amuses me,
Look. You and the author are of course free to do as you will. And, yes, if you choose your times and moments carefully I dare say you can enjoy a long career of "teasing" people at your door uninhibited. You'll likely be perfectly fine as you suggest.
But please do not dismiss the very sound and legally binding warnings of POSSIBLE ramifications several people have thoughtfully given here as mere piffle, especially as people actually have all our best interests at heart and are trying to help. "
I didn’t say I did answer the door naked or “tease” people (hint: I don’t do either) but I do know what the guidance says. |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
"This all falls under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act.
It carries a punishment of up to 2 years in prison, and being put on the Sexual Offenders register.
So it is no joke.
It is defined as an offence if a person "Intentionally exposes their genitals in front of others" . "
Trouble is, you’ve only quoted half the legislation. Section 66 also says The person must also INTEND to cause the viewer alarm or distress. So if you answer your door naked, but not caring about the viewers feelings, then you have no criminal intent.
It’s not illegal to be naked in public places, let alone your own house.
That said, I would hate to frighten/alarm/distress any callers to the house, so I’d stick a pair of shorts or a towel on before I opened the door.
I think a lot of people confuse nudity with sexuality and of course they are not the same things.
I live by the road into my village and always use my pool in the nude. If passers by don’t like it, they should stop looking at me in my pool, cheeky beggars. (Although it’s by the road, it’s in the countryside so they’d have to slow their car to look in most cases).
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I life model and have been naked in public many times. No handcuffs yet
You get put in jail for sexual activities. The guidance is clear that you don’t get put in jail for just being naked."
Not quite.
Yes it is a fact that it's not an offence to be naked in public in England and Wales but - and this is the important part for this post - it does become an offence if it can be proved the person stripped off with the intention to upset and shock. Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003
However, the burden lies with the complainant to prove this.
We do note though the author of this post is wanting to do this as a dare with his wife in order to shock the delivery person.
I would agree with anyone saying its a tad too "grey area" as many laws are but nonetheless simply stating it is not an offence to be naked in public is not enough. The whole caveat has to be stated for clarity.
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I life model and have been naked in public many times. No handcuffs yet
You get put in jail for sexual activities. The guidance is clear that you don’t get put in jail for just being naked.
Not quite.
Yes it is a fact that it's not an offence to be naked in public in England and Wales but - and this is the important part for this post - it does become an offence if it can be proved the person stripped off with the intention to upset and shock. Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003
However, the burden lies with the complainant to prove this.
We do note though the author of this post is wanting to do this as a dare with his wife in order to shock the delivery person.
I would agree with anyone saying its a tad too "grey area" as many laws are but nonetheless simply stating it is not an offence to be naked in public is not enough. The whole caveat has to be stated for clarity.
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By *ichtingleMan
over a year ago
Manchester City Centre |
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I life model and have been naked in public many times. No handcuffs yet
You get put in jail for sexual activities. The guidance is clear that you don’t get put in jail for just being naked.
Not quite.
Yes it is a fact that it's not an offence to be naked in public in England and Wales but - and this is the important part for this post - it does become an offence if it can be proved the person stripped off with the intention to upset and shock. Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003
However, the burden lies with the complainant to prove this.
We do note though the author of this post is wanting to do this as a dare with his wife in order to shock the delivery person.
I would agree with anyone saying its a tad too "grey area" as many laws are but nonetheless simply stating it is not an offence to be naked in public is not enough. The whole caveat has to be stated for clarity.
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I remember the time when the postman came to the door, and i was completely naked.
To be honest, I am not sure what surprised him more, the fact that i was naked, or the fact that i knew where he lived....... |
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"I remember the time when the postman came to the door, and i was completely naked.
To be honest, I am not sure what surprised him more, the fact that i was naked, or the fact that i knew where he lived....... "
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I life model and have been naked in public many times. No handcuffs yet
You get put in jail for sexual activities. The guidance is clear that you don’t get put in jail for just being naked.
Not quite.
Yes it is a fact that it's not an offence to be naked in public in England and Wales but - and this is the important part for this post - it does become an offence if it can be proved the person stripped off with the intention to upset and shock. Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003
However, the burden lies with the complainant to prove this.
We do note though the author of this post is wanting to do this as a dare with his wife in order to shock the delivery person.
I would agree with anyone saying its a tad too "grey area" as many laws are but nonetheless simply stating it is not an offence to be naked in public is not enough. The whole caveat has to be stated for clarity.
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I only commented on the thread to provide a counterbalance to the view that the Sexual Offences Act automatically kicked in. I am glad that we have all seen it is more nuanced than that |
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By *rpeggioCouple
over a year ago
Baughurst |
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...The fact remains that indecent exposure, or involving vanilla bystanders in personal kinks, is not swinging, so I wonder why the topic is even being discussed here."
The topic is being discussed because some do not seem to understand the difference between being naked around your own home minding your own business versus exposing your genitals to someone without their prior consent on purpose and knowingly with the intention to shock them to obtain sexual gratification at their expense. Therefore some people perceive this as an acceptable kink that is part of the swinging spectrum. Others, we do not think it's acceptable or ethical to use not consenting people in our swinging so we would not do it, no matter if it is legal or not. |
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To be honest, I am not sure what surprised him more, the fact that i was naked, or the fact that i knew where he lived.......
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