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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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What do you think to the idea of needing to provide evidence of a clean bill of sexual health to attend swingers clubs?
For example, a negative test within the last “x” amount of time.
Would that put you at ease? Would it make you more or less likely to attend? Would it be annoying? Or would it give you more confidence when meeting others? |
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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago
Suffolk - East Anglia |
"What do you think to the idea of needing to provide evidence of a clean bill of sexual health to attend swingers clubs?
For example, a negative test within the last “x” amount of time.
Would that put you at ease? Would it make you more or less likely to attend? Would it be annoying? Or would it give you more confidence when meeting others?"
It would have some (limited) value but it could not be 100%. The value it may have may also be offset by over confidence leading to unknown infections being passed on.
Hopefully one day...one day, a test like the Covid tests will produce an immediate result from a small sample given on entry to a club. The guy who invents that will make a million. |
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As someone who clubs regular and tests monthly (full swabs and throat and bloods at a face to face clinic) I’d find it totally pointless.
Too many variables and controllables and a false confidence of being negative when you shown results (lots of things could have happened before it shows up, or done incorrectly)
Also insurance wise it’s not fair on the clubs to carry the responsibility. It’s your own responsibility if you wish to play and how safe you want to try and make that.
I’d like to think most swingers have the same sexual health standards as me, but I know for a fact they don’t. So I treat everyone as though they have something I don’t want to catch
Other than possibly making people test more, to physically be allowed in the club, not sure of the benefit x |
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By *atcoupleCouple
over a year ago
Suffolk - East Anglia |
"As someone who clubs regular and tests monthly (full swabs and throat and bloods at a face to face clinic) I’d find it totally pointless.
Too many variables and controllables and a false confidence of being negative when you shown results (lots of things could have happened before it shows up, or done incorrectly)
Also insurance wise it’s not fair on the clubs to carry the responsibility. It’s your own responsibility if you wish to play and how safe you want to try and make that.
I’d like to think most swingers have the same sexual health standards as me, but I know for a fact they don’t. So I treat everyone as though they have something I don’t want to catch
Other than possibly making people test more, to physically be allowed in the club, not sure of the benefit x" |
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"What do you think to the idea of needing to provide evidence of a clean bill of sexual health to attend swingers clubs?
For example, a negative test within the last “x” amount of time.
Would that put you at ease? Would it make you more or less likely to attend? Would it be annoying? Or would it give you more confidence when meeting others?"
Doesn't mean anything I could have a negative test yesterday and fucked 8 people today then popped along to the club tonight riddled
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Would not make a difference to me as I do not play bare with strangers in a club. Only with my partner and an FWB or two, but we test regularly.
So "no glove, no love" in clubs, sorry! Though I do not use condoms for bjs- and yes, I do understand the risks I'm taking then. |
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"What do you think to the idea of needing to provide evidence of a clean bill of sexual health to attend swingers clubs?
For example, a negative test within the last “x” amount of time.
Would that put you at ease? Would it make you more or less likely to attend? Would it be annoying? Or would it give you more confidence when meeting others?
Doesn't mean anything I could have a negative test yesterday and fucked 8 people today then popped along to the club tonight riddled
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By *lexV16Man
over a year ago
Welling |
"As someone who clubs regular and tests monthly (full swabs and throat and bloods at a face to face clinic) I’d find it totally pointless.
Too many variables and controllables and a false confidence of being negative when you shown results (lots of things could have happened before it shows up, or done incorrectly)
Also insurance wise it’s not fair on the clubs to carry the responsibility. It’s your own responsibility if you wish to play and how safe you want to try and make that.
I’d like to think most swingers have the same sexual health standards as me, but I know for a fact they don’t. So I treat everyone as though they have something I don’t want to catch
Other than possibly making people test more, to physically be allowed in the club, not sure of the benefit x"
Can’t say it better. It’s your own responsibility if you wish to play and how safe you want to try and make that. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"As someone who clubs regular and tests monthly (full swabs and throat and bloods at a face to face clinic) I’d find it totally pointless.
Too many variables and controllables and a false confidence of being negative when you shown results (lots of things could have happened before it shows up, or done incorrectly)
Also insurance wise it’s not fair on the clubs to carry the responsibility. It’s your own responsibility if you wish to play and how safe you want to try and make that.
I’d like to think most swingers have the same sexual health standards as me, but I know for a fact they don’t. So I treat everyone as though they have something I don’t want to catch
Other than possibly making people test more, to physically be allowed in the club, not sure of the benefit x"
I’d say it’s not about false confidence, it’s more about harm reduction and reducing the chances of catching anything. People would still take their own precautions in addition to testing.
The main thing that spurred me to post this is that I live within a mile of a club, so the “who’s nearby” feature regularly shows whoever is visiting the club - and on certain days profiles appear (mostly men) where there’s a clear sign of some kind of infection in their photos… warts, scabs, red peeling skin on genitals, poor hygiene etc.
It’s quite alarming as I imagine there are dark rooms in those places where people wouldn’t necessarily notice those things and condoms wouldn’t protect against everything.
Testing seems like it would be a good barrier to entry to prevent the really obvious cases. Not to mention that STI’s are on the rise within the U.K. - maybe would should combine both personal responsibility and screening. |
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In my area they don't do free postal tests so I go regularly to my clinic and they phone with the results and to make another appointment. So I don't have any proof that I have been tested.
Also I don't trust home test kits after seeing how badly people were at swaps for covid. |
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"As someone who clubs regular and tests monthly (full swabs and throat and bloods at a face to face clinic) I’d find it totally pointless.
Too many variables and controllables and a false confidence of being negative when you shown results (lots of things could have happened before it shows up, or done incorrectly)
Also insurance wise it’s not fair on the clubs to carry the responsibility. It’s your own responsibility if you wish to play and how safe you want to try and make that.
I’d like to think most swingers have the same sexual health standards as me, but I know for a fact they don’t. So I treat everyone as though they have something I don’t want to catch
Other than possibly making people test more, to physically be allowed in the club, not sure of the benefit x
I’d say it’s not about false confidence, it’s more about harm reduction and reducing the chances of catching anything. People would still take their own precautions in addition to testing.
The main thing that spurred me to post this is that I live within a mile of a club, so the “who’s nearby” feature regularly shows whoever is visiting the club - and on certain days profiles appear (mostly men) where there’s a clear sign of some kind of infection in their photos… warts, scabs, red peeling skin on genitals, poor hygiene etc.
It’s quite alarming as I imagine there are dark rooms in those places where people wouldn’t necessarily notice those things and condoms wouldn’t protect against everything.
Testing seems like it would be a good barrier to entry to prevent the really obvious cases. Not to mention that STI’s are on the rise within the U.K. - maybe would should combine both personal responsibility and screening."
There’s also something about people living with conditions, diseases and disabilities being entitled to attend any of the same events as anyone else.
Someone with an incurable STI is entitled to attend a restaurant, bar, and club the same as the rest of us.
It’s about being informed and making it as safe as you wish based on your own standards. Using condoms for sex isn’t good enough for me, I expect more in terms of safety and that’s personally how I manage swinging.
A person with HIV who tells the truth about their status and plays with consenting individuals who may be on prep or the likes is entitled to do so and in this case wouldn’t be allowed.
Not sure I’m okay with this.
Appreciate what your saying, playing devils advocate x |
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I’d say it’s not about false confidence, it’s more about harm reduction and reducing the chances of catching anything. People would still take their own precautions in addition to testing.
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Going by the number of people who made clear in their messaging while J was pregnant that her being pregnant meant (to them) condoms were unnecessary it absolutely would give some false confidence.
It would also put a level of responsibility onto the club that isn’t theirs. If someone fucked someone ‘clean’ at the club, but picked something up due to incubation periods or then contracting something since the test they’d be in the firing line. |
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I think it's unrealistic to expect this, when the club would be unable to have vetted who took what tests and when. They'd also have a greater burden placed on staff, possibly increasing their costs, which could eat into thin profits or passed onto customers.
The value of test varies, with some infections taking months to get a positive result. There's also a lag between testing day and results day. Some STIs are never tested for. As an insurer for clubs, I'd be unhappy with the risks posed onto them.
It should be a personal responsibility and each of us can discuss this with partners and choose our sexual activities as we see fit. |
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