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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Query for the females, would it put you off a man if he uses/ used woman of the night, no STI, a conversation I'm having and needs others opinions x"
Yep... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Why would it be anyone's business if you used them or not.
As long as safe sex (or as safe as can be) is practised, I can't see an issue."
Some might have an issue with how you see sex as a service and maybe it's an old stereotype of e scorts being unclean |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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woman of the night
Anyway ‘women of the night’ (other time spheres are available) are the most like to be std free, but in answer (kind of) to your question - it’s not something that needs to be disclosed really, is it. I mean, why would you? |
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"Why would it be anyone's business if you used them or not.
As long as safe sex (or as safe as can be) is practised, I can't see an issue.
Some might have an issue with how you see sex as a service and maybe it's an old stereotype of e scorts being unclean"
But why would you tell anyone?? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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" woman of the night
Anyway ‘women of the night’ (other time spheres are available) are the most like to be std free, but in answer (kind of) to your question - it’s not something that needs to be disclosed really, is it. I mean, why would you?"
Fabs rules are quite strict with the correct terms so thinking outside of the box! Some couples might want the conversation of past sexual partners , I agree that it's private though and not somthing everyone would need to know about x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Same opinion as me, why do you feel that way though?
Just see too many tmes the women are hooked on drugs/or exploited "
Not all before i get jumped on lol |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Why would you need / want tell anyone?
Can't say we've ever asked anyone if they've ever used anything like this. Nor has anyone volunteered that information either. "
Should have been clearer, this is just hypothetical if you found out that your parter had regularly used that service, or it came up that they had would that be a deal breaker |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" woman of the night
Anyway ‘women of the night’ (other time spheres are available) are the most like to be std free, but in answer (kind of) to your question - it’s not something that needs to be disclosed really, is it. I mean, why would you?"
Indeed.
Yes it would put me off. Because of the way he described 'using' her, the term, and his lack of discretion and respect. |
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If it was street walkers then maybe due to higher risk of infection, but decent online / sex workers who look after themselves then it’s not that different to swinging. It’s just less personal, so we wouldn’t see an issue. |
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"If it was street walkers then maybe due to higher risk of infection, but decent online / sex workers who look after themselves then it’s not that different to swinging. It’s just less personal, so we wouldn’t see an issue. "
Spot on! You’re paying for the service provided by those ladies. Most sex workers get tested very regularly. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If it was street walkers then maybe due to higher risk of infection, but decent online / sex workers who look after themselves then it’s not that different to swinging. It’s just less personal, so we wouldn’t see an issue.
Spot on! You’re paying for the service provided by those ladies. Most sex workers get tested very regularly. "
You're right, the stigma around sex work isn't justified most are just trying to earn a living and possibly enjoy what they do |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If they phrased it as 'used' it would put me off. "
This, the ‘used’ thing is horrible, I don’t care what they get up to or who they have sex with (as long as it’s consensual, safe and legal) but I do care very much how they view and treat others
Sleep with whoever you like but give people the respect of humanity, it’s not a big ask |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Somethings are just best kept to yourself why put her in that position ??
Would you want to know if she had been paying the rugby team for a bit of over time after every home game actually that thought excites me hahaha |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Query for the females, would it put you off a man if he uses/ used woman of the night, no STI, a conversation I'm having and needs others opinions x"
Yep. It's not about the risk of STI either. Sex work isn't "work" it's legalised r@pe. |
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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago
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"Why would you need / want tell anyone?
Can't say we've ever asked anyone if they've ever used anything like this. Nor has anyone volunteered that information either.
Should have been clearer, this is just hypothetical if you found out that your parter had regularly used that service, or it came up that they had would that be a deal breaker "
Nope. But then I was a seamstress in another lifetime so they would also have to be ok with that (and some men really aren't!) |
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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago
London | Belfast |
Yep. It's not about the risk of STI either. Sex work isn't "work" it's legalised r@pe.
Um no. I grew up in Germany, where brothels are legal. Most women are there because the money is easy and they can refuse to fuck if they're too put off. But most just bite the bullet, because cash is good. Really good.
It is work,too. You don't enjoy all of it, I am sure, but get compensated.
And in those countries "women of the night" are a regulated business, that constantly get welfare and health care checks.
There are human trafficking rings that force women to hve sex, yes, it's a bad thing. But you won't find those in brothels, they are too regulated. Women there don't pay a cut of their income to the brothel owners, they sort of just rent the room and if they make 0 or millions, they don't pay more than a previously agreed price.
Would I tell someone to become a whore for quick money? No. But it's not r@pe either. Sexwork is completely different and misunderstood.
It will always exist, because it's a really quick way to get a lot of money, and here in the UK and many other countries of the world, it even is a legal way to do it.
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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago
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"Query for the females, would it put you off a man if he uses/ used woman of the night, no STI, a conversation I'm having and needs others opinions x
Yep. It's not about the risk of STI either. Sex work isn't "work" it's legalised r@pe. "
No.
I was a sex worker. I was taped (-t +r) once in nearly 20 years of sex work. Every other time it was a consenting exchange of money for sex.
Sex work is work. I went to work, did my job, went home.
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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago
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"Query for the females, would it put you off a man if he uses/ used woman of the night, no STI, a conversation I'm having and needs others opinions x
Yep. It's not about the risk of STI either. Sex work isn't "work" it's legalised r@pe.
No.
I was a sex worker. I was taped (-t +r) once in nearly 20 years of sex work. Every other time it was a consenting exchange of money for sex.
Sex work is work. I went to work, did my job, went home.
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Exactly. But you have an even better insight than any of us. Very brve that you can openly talk about it.
It's just good money. Some people work everyday and hate their life doing work they don't like, but they have no choice but to go every day. Ladies of the night work 1 or 2 years, and then take a very, very long break and have fun. Others work only a few months a year and take the rest of the year off. |
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I have met working girls and they have all practiced safe sex, why should it put someone off having sex with a guy? It’s a business transaction that’s all, and the ladies I have met in the past have all been very charming and attentive, I have nothing but respect for them and the service they provide, having said that I am sure there are horror stories of girls forced to work. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Query for the females, would it put you off a man if he uses/ used woman of the night, no STI, a conversation I'm having and needs others opinions x
Yep. It's not about the risk of STI either. Sex work isn't "work" it's legalised r@pe.
No.
I was a sex worker. I was taped (-t +r) once in nearly 20 years of sex work. Every other time it was a consenting exchange of money for sex.
Sex work is work. I went to work, did my job, went home.
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Thank you for your insight. I'd still judge a man who paid for sex, but I don't judge the person he paid. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have met working girls and they have all practiced safe sex, why should it put someone off having sex with a guy? It’s a business transaction that’s all, and the ladies I have met in the past have all been very charming and attentive, I have nothing but respect for them and the service they provide, having said that I am sure there are horror stories of girls forced to work."
It would put me off because I view sex very differently than someone who thinks it is or can be a business transaction. |
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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago
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Personally I am not a fan of hokers and don't go to them but I wouldn't think less of someone who did. If they don't have a girlfriend and need to get their rocks off, and jerking off gets boring, then why not? Why would a woman care that he did?
If you're with someone and they constantly go and fuck some ladies of the night, that's not really healthy and I can see how someone might be hurt by that behaviour. But if it happened in the past there is no harm done or is there?
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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago
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"Query for the females, would it put you off a man if he uses/ used woman of the night, no STI, a conversation I'm having and needs others opinions x
Yep. It's not about the risk of STI either. Sex work isn't "work" it's legalised r@pe.
No.
I was a sex worker. I was taped (-t +r) once in nearly 20 years of sex work. Every other time it was a consenting exchange of money for sex.
Sex work is work. I went to work, did my job, went home.
Thank you for your insight. I'd still judge a man who paid for sex, but I don't judge the person he paid. "
You can judge a man (although it's not just men I had female clients)...
But please don't claim that it's non consenting when for the majority of sex workers it's a choice for them to work that way....
When GMP had a more relaxed view on brothels I worked in one, 12 different workers a day were on shift, all of us there by choice, all paying tax on our earnings (we all used the same accountant - if you know they are SW friendly then you know you won't get raised eyebrows at some of the receipts!) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Query for the females, would it put you off a man if he uses/ used woman of the night, no STI, a conversation I'm having and needs others opinions x
Yep. It's not about the risk of STI either. Sex work isn't "work" it's legalised r@pe.
No.
I was a sex worker. I was taped (-t +r) once in nearly 20 years of sex work. Every other time it was a consenting exchange of money for sex.
Sex work is work. I went to work, did my job, went home.
Thank you for your insight. I'd still judge a man who paid for sex, but I don't judge the person he paid.
You can judge a man (although it's not just men I had female clients)...
But please don't claim that it's non consenting when for the majority of sex workers it's a choice for them to work that way....
When GMP had a more relaxed view on brothels I worked in one, 12 different workers a day were on shift, all of us there by choice, all paying tax on our earnings (we all used the same accountant - if you know they are SW friendly then you know you won't get raised eyebrows at some of the receipts!) "
I base my views on what I've read about SW in the UK. The much higher risks of SA. The research comparing legalised/decriminalised SW with countries where it's still illegal (Filia writes about this). I've read personal experiences from SW which differ hugely from your own experience, and both are of course equally valid. Am I biased? I'm sure I am. And reading your comments has challenged that bias. Thank you for sharing. |
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"Personally I am not a fan of hokers and don't go to them but I wouldn't think less of someone who did. If they don't have a girlfriend and need to get their rocks off, and jerking off gets boring, then why not? Why would a woman care that he did?
If you're with someone and they constantly go and fuck some ladies of the night, that's not really healthy and I can see how someone might be hurt by that behaviour. But if it happened in the past there is no harm done or is there?
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I've told you why I care and why it matters to me. We just don't agree. |
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"I have met working girls and they have all practiced safe sex, why should it put someone off having sex with a guy? It’s a business transaction that’s all, and the ladies I have met in the past have all been very charming and attentive, I have nothing but respect for them and the service they provide, having said that I am sure there are horror stories of girls forced to work.
It would put me off because I view sex very differently than someone who thinks it is or can be a business transaction. "
It isn't necessarily just transactional. I still see a few people socially now even though I'm not doing that work, they became friends. In fact I never had a problem but I think I vetted well perhaps. In recent years the only negative incident I've had has been stealthing, and that was a meet from here.
It was work I found enjoyable and liberating. If someone had a problem with me now bc of it, it probably isn't someone I'd likely want to meet anyway. |
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"I have met working girls and they have all practiced safe sex, why should it put someone off having sex with a guy? It’s a business transaction that’s all, and the ladies I have met in the past have all been very charming and attentive, I have nothing but respect for them and the service they provide, having said that I am sure there are horror stories of girls forced to work.
It would put me off because I view sex very differently than someone who thinks it is or can be a business transaction.
It isn't necessarily just transactional. I still see a few people socially now even though I'm not doing that work, they became friends. In fact I never had a problem but I think I vetted well perhaps. In recent years the only negative incident I've had has been stealthing, and that was a meet from here.
It was work I found enjoyable and liberating. If someone had a problem with me now bc of it, it probably isn't someone I'd likely want to meet anyway. "
I've said I don't want to meet men who £ for sex. Not that I had any problem whatsoever with those who are paid. £ for sex is transactional, i don't see how it can be seeing any other way? I know some people see sex/relationships as transactional even if money isn't involved but I'm not one of them. |
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Wouldn’t bother me at all. I’ve done the other thing. Most clients were a damn site more respectful and well-kept than a lot of people on here, and most SW’s I have encountered are stricter than a lot of swingers when it comes to sexual health x |
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"Wouldn’t bother me at all. I’ve done the other thing. Most clients were a damn site more respectful and well-kept than a lot of people on here, and most SW’s I have encountered are stricter than a lot of swingers when it comes to sexual health x" |
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"Wouldn’t bother me at all. I’ve done the other thing. Most clients were a damn site more respectful and well-kept than a lot of people on here, and most SW’s I have encountered are stricter than a lot of swingers when it comes to sexual health x"
I had a relationship with a lady I met as her client some years back, after few meets, no payments requested and we had a caring relationship, genuine lady,unlike some I've encountered on here |
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"Wouldn’t bother me at all. I’ve done the other thing. Most clients were a damn site more respectful and well-kept than a lot of people on here, and most SW’s I have encountered are stricter than a lot of swingers when it comes to sexual health x
I had a relationship with a lady I met as her client some years back, after few meets, no payments requested and we had a caring relationship, genuine lady,unlike some I've encountered on here"
A couple of my former clients contacted me through here and became playmates. Too much fun not to x |
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"Yep. It's not about the risk of STI either. Sex work isn't "work" it's legalised r@pe. "
That’s a damn extreme and inaccurate view of reality. I know 2 e$c0rt$ and they love what they do and evidently it’s transactional and then consensual, so no r@pe going on there.
But opinions are just opinions and all that. You think what you like |
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"Thank you for your insight. I'd still judge a man who paid for sex, but I don't judge the person he paid. "
Every man pays for it. Either directly or indirectly. Everyone’s paying for it. Anyone who goes to a swingers clubs is paying for it, including you (if you go to clubs). |
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"Thank you for your insight. I'd still judge a man who paid for sex, but I don't judge the person he paid.
Every man pays for it. Either directly or indirectly. Everyone’s paying for it. Anyone who goes to a swingers clubs is paying for it, including you (if you go to clubs). "
That's your view. I choose not to treat sex or dating as transactional nor spend time with men who do. |
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