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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax

Have just started to practice the art and am looking for some advice, also looking for people to try my rope skills out on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You may find it difficult to find volunteers given you have just started and don't have much experience. When you say shibari, do you mean traditional japaneese style ?

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax

Yes, hence the Fabbing of your very sexy pictures.

Have many years of rope experience in another field and am very interested in putting it to use.

x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are different types of rope bondage shibari and kinbaku are more traditional using 7m ropes of natural fibre and thinner and are more about the journey than the look of the finished work and whose origins lie in martial arts. The difference in the two being weather it has a act of sexual nature at the end or not. The knotty boys and twisted monk are western bondage which is more focused on the look of the tie than the pratical restrain which you get with traditional. Also it generally uses thicker Longer rope made of synthetic and coloured. There are many books and DVDs for the different types also lots off peer groups you can pop along to and learn. Or as we are doing you can employ a private tutor or master to teach you. The pics on our profile are western fusion rope bondage, but we are now about to learn traditional japaneese rope and suspension.

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax

Thank you.

I would say then its more western where our interests lie.

I can easily tie the tortoise, pentagram, double column ties, a couple of different chest harnesses and a dragonfly arm bind and would like to learn more.

finding someone to teach would be good, but would aslo like to find someone to practice on. x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Knotty boys have 2 books available and some good vids on youtube as do twisted monk. Why not try a peer group where there are people willing to show you and you may also find people willing to let you tie them. Or a rope event ? Try looking on fetlife for local events to you.

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax

Have a little library of knotty boy / twisted monk videos and some pictures i'd like to recreate.

Peer group sounds good thanks, haven't found one yet but not sure where to look.

Thanks for the advice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Fetlife would probably be your best place to look.

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax

joining now x

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"Have just started to practice the art and am looking for some advice, also looking for people to try my rope skills out on.

"

ya not going to try them out on me - just thought id say, use a lot of rope! It doesnt generally cut circulation off if you do. There are a lot of positions either to emphasise restriction or aid play so just go with trial and error.

Dont throw all the kitchen sink into it - rope play is about build up, tease and perparation. eg. a vibe and blindfold out of ropes is intense - with them its 10x moreso

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax


"Have just started to practice the art and am looking for some advice, also looking for people to try my rope skills out on.

ya not going to try them out on me - just thought id say, use a lot of rope! It doesnt generally cut circulation off if you do. There are a lot of positions either to emphasise restriction or aid play so just go with trial and error.

Dont throw all the kitchen sink into it - rope play is about build up, tease and perparation. eg. a vibe and blindfold out of ropes is intense - with them its 10x moreso"

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

be aware of the amount of time in rope too. An hour in rope unless you are re positioning thoughout can be quite long.

Chain is also good, and a lot quicker to repositon/restrain. As can the age old tool - clingfilm.

Chains are good though rope prep and the advantage of thinking how youre going to treat them once done is wicked I think

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax

Thanks

Rope is my tool of choice, I have spent many years as a rigger for fall arrest systems abseils etc and am very used to working with it..

Love the artistry in wrapping someone and want to explore it further.

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

think it takes more than a good few years to whip someone up into a good looking-double-back-looping-wallnut-slip-knott, have to say But yeah - it does look great. Do love the amature efforts though, must be so painful looking at some trying the 50 shades trilogy lol

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax


"think it takes more than a good few years to whip someone up into a good looking-double-back-looping-wallnut-slip-knott, have to say But yeah - it does look great. Do love the amature efforts though, must be so painful looking at some trying the 50 shades trilogy lol

"

Thankfully i haven't read the books.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you look online there are Workshops all over the Country. I've been a rope bunny a few times and enjoyed it everytime x

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By *azNdavCouple  over a year ago

barnsley

wow some interesting info on this thread i think i will have to give it more of a try and look in to it further.

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By *evilwolfCouple  over a year ago

Leicestershire

it's fantastic ain't it

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I think it's knot nice.

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"be aware of the amount of time in rope too. An hour in rope unless you are re positioning thoughout can be quite long.

Chain is also good, and a lot quicker to repositon/restrain. As can the age old tool - clingfilm.

Chains are good though rope prep and the advantage of thinking how youre going to treat them once done is wicked I think"

I can say I don't mind being in rope for long periods of time

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By *azNdavCouple  over a year ago

barnsley


"it's fantastic ain't it

"

I find it artistic and imagine it to be a relaxing process.

a few ropes are on the next shopping list

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you look online there are Workshops all over the Country. I've been a rope bunny a few times and enjoyed it everytime x "

This.

Plus at these events everyone we've met so far is very keen to share their knowledge and skills. I'm new to this and have only very basic knowledge but we were at an event on Saturday afternoon and after initially being a little self-conscious, nobody cared about my lack of expertise and just wanted to offer advice.

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"it's fantastic ain't it

I find it artistic and imagine it to be a relaxing process.

a few ropes are on the next shopping list"

Dont get them from an online shop - get to bnq and feel the tension/softness of it. Online ropes can be too abrasive or too elasticy. Pointless when youre trying to get someone how you might like them x

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"it's fantastic ain't it

I find it artistic and imagine it to be a relaxing process.

a few ropes are on the next shopping list

Dont get them from an online shop - get to bnq and feel the tension/softness of it. Online ropes can be too abrasive or too elasticy. Pointless when youre trying to get someone how you might like them x"

You can also treat them yourself as my friend has, very comfortable as well

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By *evilwolfCouple  over a year ago

Leicestershire

Look out for chandlers merchants near some of the big inland waterway places as well as the coast.

Wolf

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

mmm bu those hemps are for seasoned professionals .. metres, and metres and lots of practices

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By *evilwolfCouple  over a year ago

Leicestershire


"mmm bu those hemps are for seasoned professionals .. metres, and metres and lots of practices"

true - there's a rope for every job, and you always know after a while which one suits best. Good to practice on other materials to get the feel for 'em. Better rope than tape and ty-wraps for sure.

Wolf

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"mmm bu those hemps are for seasoned professionals .. metres, and metres and lots of practices"

Guess I'm just a lucky girl then

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"mmm bu those hemps are for seasoned professionals .. metres, and metres and lots of practices

Guess I'm just a lucky girl then "

hahah - hmmmm, is that invite in the post? I didnt get it!! lol

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"mmm bu those hemps are for seasoned professionals .. metres, and metres and lots of practices

Guess I'm just a lucky girl then

hahah - hmmmm, is that invite in the post? I didnt get it!! lol "

Well, if you were closer and were a seasoned professional with hemp, it might just have been

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By *adyJayneWoman  over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)


"mmm bu those hemps are for seasoned professionals .. metres, and metres and lots of practices"

Wow... Aren't you a pleasant and positive person...

This is why I got disillusioned with the BDSM scene....

Yes there are basic safety concerns to put in place and bear in mind, but what on earth makes you think you have any right to be so disparaging to someone wanting to learn...

There is no 'right' way to do something, or 'right' way to learn.... If someone prefers the feel and smell of hemp, why on earth shouldn't they use it rather then something that doesn't give them the same kind of thrill?

Dear god I hope I never meet you on the 'scene' because believe you me, you've had less of a mouthful because I've had to type it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"it's fantastic ain't it

I find it artistic and imagine it to be a relaxing process.

a few ropes are on the next shopping list

Dont get them from an online shop - get to bnq and feel the tension/softness of it. Online ropes can be too abrasive or too elasticy. Pointless when youre trying to get someone how you might like them x"

DO NOT go to b and q and buy rope it will be completely useless for what you want an will cause rope burn. Natural fibre is your best option and despite some poor advice is actually the best option for people of all abilities.

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax

I have metres and metres of (prestretched) 7mm nylon (LSK), also have on the way lots of metres of pure cotton rope at 6mm.

If i get heavily into it i'll think about buying the expensive silk rope but from what i have heard and read the cotton will be just fine.

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By *azNdavCouple  over a year ago

barnsley


"it's fantastic ain't it

I find it artistic and imagine it to be a relaxing process.

a few ropes are on the next shopping list

Dont get them from an online shop - get to bnq and feel the tension/softness of it. Online ropes can be too abrasive or too elasticy. Pointless when youre trying to get someone how you might like them x

DO NOT go to b and q and buy rope it will be completely useless for what you want an will cause rope burn. Natural fibre is your best option and despite some poor advice is actually the best option for people of all abilities. "

Thanks for your advice. Our local club has a fet night and there's a stall there with various stuff for sale and he had some ropes will check what they are at the next one.

One of my past jobs was rope related so a I've already got a bit of know how for knots.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

look at my post on Japanese rope bondage, I got lots of tips and guidance on ther

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By *evilwolfCouple  over a year ago

Leicestershire


"I have metres and metres of (prestretched) 7mm nylon (LSK), also have on the way lots of metres of pure cotton rope at 6mm.

If i get heavily into it i'll think about buying the expensive silk rope but from what i have heard and read the cotton will be just fine.

"

my faves the cotton to be honest

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax


"look at my post on Japanese rope bondage, I got lots of tips and guidance on ther"

Would you mind linking to it ?

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

My 'friends' are home treated hemp (I think!) Hell, what do I care, I'm just on the receiving end

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By *azNdavCouple  over a year ago

barnsley


"look at my post on Japanese rope bondage, I got lots of tips and guidance on ther

Would you mind linking to it ? "

yes please

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Japaneese rope bondage and western bondage are a bit like chalk and cheese. There is very little similarity between them

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax


"My 'friends' are home treated hemp (I think!) Hell, what do I care, I'm just on the receiving end "

if your ever down in Yorkshire

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By *adyJayneWoman  over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)


"

DO NOT go to b and q and buy rope it will be completely useless for what you want an will cause rope burn. Natural fibre is your best option and despite some poor advice is actually the best option for people of all abilities. "

You see you said it without launching into a rant like me.... I apologise!

What they said!

But I'd just say don't bother with the semantics of what style, rope often finds its own path anyway, just enjoy experimenting!

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"My 'friends' are home treated hemp (I think!) Hell, what do I care, I'm just on the receiving end

if your ever down in Yorkshire "

Always on the look out for someone with experience, even if just starting out

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax


"My 'friends' are home treated hemp (I think!) Hell, what do I care, I'm just on the receiving end

if your ever down in Yorkshire

Always on the look out for someone with experience, even if just starting out "

hope to see you soon x

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"mmm bu those hemps are for seasoned professionals .. metres, and metres and lots of practices

Guess I'm just a lucky girl then

hahah - hmmmm, is that invite in the post? I didnt get it!! lol

Well, if you were closer and were a seasoned professional with hemp, it might just have been "

Hehe, a lovely thought... I'll check back in 40yrs lol x

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"mmm bu those hemps are for seasoned professionals .. metres, and metres and lots of practices

Guess I'm just a lucky girl then

hahah - hmmmm, is that invite in the post? I didnt get it!! lol

Well, if you were closer and were a seasoned professional with hemp, it might just have been

Hehe, a lovely thought... I'll check back in 40yrs lol x"

40 years???? Feck that lol I think I will be too old for suspension ropes at that age lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

DO NOT go to b and q and buy rope it will be completely useless for what you want an will cause rope burn. Natural fibre is your best option and despite some poor advice is actually the best option for people of all abilities.

You see you said it without launching into a rant like me.... I apologise!

What they said!

But I'd just say don't bother with the semantics of what style, rope often finds its own path anyway, just enjoy experimenting!"

I think the choice of rope is somewhat dependant on style for example intricate work would require thinner rope whilst tight binding would be better suited to a thicker rope to reduce pressure on the skin. Also man made fibre rope that has no friction would be little use in traditional shibari as there are very few knots and is more reliant on cinches which utilise the abrasive properties of the rope to grip to itself under tension.

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"mmm bu those hemps are for seasoned professionals .. metres, and metres and lots of practices

Wow... Aren't you a pleasant and positive person...

This is why I got disillusioned with the BDSM scene....

Yes there are basic safety concerns to put in place and bear in mind, but what on earth makes you think you have any right to be so disparaging to someone wanting to learn...

There is no 'right' way to do something, or 'right' way to learn.... If someone prefers the feel and smell of hemp, why on earth shouldn't they use it rather then something that doesn't give them the same kind of thrill?

Dear god I hope I never meet you on the 'scene' because believe you me, you've had less of a mouthful because I've had to type it"

lol

Whether you think you have a point. Think you have made a point. Or are looking to gain some kind of kudos on the forum with that blurb out of nowhere. I can tell you now, in no uncertain terms. You won't make me either look a fool OR win any any argument against me.

I can tell you with up most certainty, I am the easiest going and most relaxed guy you are definitely not going to meet. To think you can somehow pick me out of a scene or even see me on it and judge me as you have, you are wildly deluded.

My scene? Stands on 18 years of swinging/meeting people, so if our paths haven't crossed yet, they aren't going to in the future. You see, I am utterly easy going, but your churlish remarks have me only a little annoyed but mostly disappointed that YOU, somehow are able to 'see through' general advice, yet offer non in its place but in the same vein make me out to be some kind of deluded preacher.

There is nothing apart from common sense in my previous posts. I am wondering how you think you can get away with making remarks like that and not expect some kind of come back?

It is plain and simple advice to say, get lots of rope, feel it first and don't throw in everything at once.

For you to say, jump in and try everything, if you don't try it your not going to like it ... Yeah ok so....... Stick a rope around her neck, tie her up as tight as physically possible and leave her alone for a few hours to bed in and enjoy the smiles??? Not going to happen ...

In your 'you've got to try it and find out what suits post' is just irresponsible and will ultimately either put someone off trying things (as they will have rushed into it), or have them believe they are more experienced than they actually are, potentially putting themselves into the hands of someone who thinks they are, only to find out their kink is only light.

There is DISTINCT danger with rope play, something that I didn't go onto until your untimely post. There was nothing disparaging in my previous, but for you attempt to belittle my post that were offering sound advice makes you look, just the closet you are talking about.

Pfff. Enjoy your solitude.

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

lets just try and keep this nice folks! otherwise I am ducking out and going to bed! Alone...Again! Grrr

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

Maybe she had a bad day and misread my previous? Maybe not, maybe I cleared it up. Maybe, maybe not not my place to pick bones out of thin air. Maybe its hers. ?

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By *alifax-couple OP   Couple  over a year ago

Halifax

What rope thickness (cotton) do you recommend... looking at 6mm ...

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

Couldn't tell you being honest, I just choose some soft and reasonably thick... It could be 6mm though as others have said its choice really. Just hemp does take a lot of maintenance and from what I understand is only used by seasoned professionals due to abrasion if not used right

Someone else can probably put me right on that though..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We would be happy to give some advice but would probably be better if we refrain from doing so as it would disagree with the previous poster and don't fancy being shot down in flames !!

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

What you have posted previous has only been constructive advice, why would I shoot you down in flames when you're not attempting to take me to task? There is a big difference between ridicule and a conversion

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hemp rope is a good choice for beginners and is by no means only for seasoned pros if conditioned it its softer than man made fibres. Just put in dishwasher with no detergent then dry under tension, singe off fuzziness with flame then oil with jojoba oil .. Job done will also get better with use. Hemp is also less likely to cause rope burn than man made fibres due to thier relative melting points. The key to stopping blood supply is more to do with the placement of rope than the amount of rope used certain areas should also be avoided with tensioned rope due to the possibility of nerve damage. The problem with thicker rope is it will have bigger knots hence more uncomfortable pressure on the body. 6mm is a good choice but 10mm could be used or even 4 mm for intricate work it all depends on what your trying to achieve ? For us we are now concentrating on japaneese kinbaku and suspension work which is almost completely different again. You could consider hempex which is a man made hemp and is the best of both !!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Give jade rope website a look. Plenty of good advice on there and they sell all different types of rope. Just bear in mind if you but certain rope from DIY stores it will get thinner when under tension and knots will bite and be very hard to undo. Also cheap hemp or jute is a waste of money as it will have very little threads per ply and will be awfull to use. Maybe consider jute if you don't like the farmyard smell of hemp.

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

Nah, forget all that, its wrong, I mean ooooph... Go to bnq lol

Lol had to!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nah, forget all that, its wrong, I mean ooooph... Go to bnq lol

Lol had to!! "

Once again you are completely wrong everyone knows to go to homebase !!!

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"Nah, forget all that, its wrong, I mean ooooph... Go to bnq lol

Lol had to!!

Once again you are completely wrong everyone knows to go to homebase !!!"

Crikey, was wondering if the good humour pills had been swapped for a min then.

To be fair OP, you've missed the 15% sale, so your options are open, though think to yourself . Should I ? Lol

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By *ushandkittyCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester

Bound-to-please.co.uk are good for rope, they'll cut to custom lengths and colour code whipped ends for identifying lengths.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bound-to-please.co.uk are good for rope, they'll cut to custom lengths and colour code whipped ends for identifying lengths. "

They are very good we have used them, they have eBay store also.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just remember if your into rope play, don't have a Accident at work the next day and have to go to your local Casualty to be checked out Don't know why they need to check wrists and ankles for a head injury

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By *tasiaCouple  over a year ago

West Bromwich

Just starting a monthly course for begineers and advanced alike, at Xtasia. Added a thread in Meets and Events. Please search for that if in the Midlands area...all welcome along

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just starting a monthly course for begineers and advanced alike, at Xtasia. Added a thread in Meets and Events. Please search for that if in the Midlands area...all welcome along"

Cannot find it or am I too quick for you as my friend would be interested depending on which weekend it is

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