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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Thinking about getting someone to film us /photograph us having fun together.

There's quite a few people on here offering to do this on here yet how do you know that you have the only copy of your pictures, that they wouldn't be circulating in edited pictures around their friends (ie with faces showing)(had a bad experience with being threatened with an ex before and found out photos were being circulated privately!)

Any opinions etc appreciated

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By *J GeminiTV/TS  over a year ago

Northumberland

Fairly stright forward.

1. Ensure the camera uses one flash card.

2. Purchase a flash card of the correct type.

3. Ensure that she/he uses that card.

4. Ensure the camera synch to phone feature is off I.e. Bluetooth and wireless is off.

5. Ensure you get the card back after the session.

Hopefully that should ensure your pics are secure.

Xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Fairly stright forward.

1. Ensure the camera uses one flash card.

2. Purchase a flash card of the correct type.

3. Ensure that she/he uses that card.

4. Ensure the camera synch to phone feature is off I.e. Bluetooth and wireless is off.

5. Ensure you get the card back after the session.

Hopefully that should ensure your pics are secure.

Xx"

Thanks for the reply we didn't even know you could sinc a camera to a phone or computer wireless. So something to consider.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you want these done by a professional photographer they would own the copyright of the images. That is just how it is. But if my husband did them there would be a written contract outlining that sort of detail and usage. The risk if "anyone" does them that doesn't have a reputation to protect then there is an issue to be aware of.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You can use your camera/equipment as well so it is already set up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You can use your camera/equipment as well so it is already set up."

All we tend to do our own photos with is a spare mobile phone and a tripod

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By *napperSpikeMan  over a year ago

St Albans


"If you want these done by a professional photographer they would own the copyright of the images. That is just how it is. But if my husband did them there would be a written contract outlining that sort of detail and usage. The risk if "anyone" does them that doesn't have a reputation to protect then there is an issue to be aware of."

This is only half of the "story" if you hire a professional photographer for social/domestic purposes though the photographer does automatically own the copyright under sectionn 85(1) of the copyright act

"Right to privacy of certain photographs and films.

(1)A person who for private and domestic purposes commissions the taking of a photograph or the making of a film has, where copyright subsists in the resulting work, the right not to have—

(a) copies of the work issued to the public,

(b) the work exhibited or shown in public, or

(c) the work [communicated to the public]; "

So the photographer can't do anything else with the photos* & in the unlikely event they did you could take legal action.

*not wishing to cast aspersions on fellow pro photographers, however I have noticed that though all of them are aware they own the copyright of images they take, 85% are ignorant of section 85(1) so do your due dilligance on any photographer you choose.

Or use an intervalometer app on your phones

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By *arried BifemWoman  over a year ago

somewhere in the midlands

Or have someone you know / trust / have a rapport with / is professional todo it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Probably worth adding to this so that people know the reality of this.

Section 85(1) of the Copyright Act is correct.

However.

For section 85(1) to apply you have to look deeper. Firstly you need to commission a photographer. You have to "pay them basically". If you don't you haven't commissioned them therefore you're in a grey area already. Law firms love grey areas. It makes them lots of money.

Let's assume the worse happens and you discover it has happened when your next-door neighbours see you on a photo app demonstrating position 42 of the Kama Sutra?

What do you do about it?

How likely is it you're going to pay for legal expenses and take anyone to court over it? That process can be/is massively expensive and you're not guaranteed to win. You'd need to pay for a specialist computer forensic investigator to show/prove who uploaded those images and from where. You would then have to pay them again to appear in court for you in addition to your legal representation. You have to prove to the court that the person who took the images shared them.

A very expensive exercise "if" and it is a big "if" that you can prove they did the sharing. There are a million ways around it for the person you trusted, for them to try and get out of it. They can mitigate their level of responsibility (aka lie) and say their computer was hacked and it wasn't their fault. They can say that whatever these images were stored on was taken (I can't use the s word for this as then I can't post this). They could accuse you of doing it and you just regret sharing and are blaming them. But as you're the one taking them to court the onus is on you to show they did the sharing of your private images.

If the person has no money and you win you'll likely see nothing in return. If they do have some money it'll cost you more to have bailiffs enforce any court decision if they decide they're not going to pay you.

So although the legislative exists it's unlikely in reality to actually help you in the long run. I came from a legal background before I took up photography for a living (Mr here) and I can assure you of one thing. Of all those who were wronged, who said adamantly they would take someone to court over a civil matter not one reached a court.

Let's make an assumption again. You're very wealthy and decide to go to court and to hell with the expense. If your local paper finds out do you really want the story plastered over the local newspaper and on their website? Then potentially being picked up by mainstream media. It could happen.

So where does this leave you? You have four choices. If you still want pictures after all of this.

1. You pay a pro photographer who has a reputation to maintain who has a business and who actually exists. Do they have reviews online etc? Check their work. Talk to them and confirm what you require and your fears and go from there. Get a contract in writing.

2. As the previous poster stated. If you have someone you trust and know then great. Just ask yourself do you really know them.

3. You take the photographs yourself.

4. You risk someone on here doing them for you.

Option 3 is the safest option followed by 1 and 2. Option 4 not so much.

The biggest risk to your photographs ending up all over the web is asking on here for someone to take them. The good news is that most people are honest.

But there are also a small number who are the opposite. The fact is any picture on here can be downloaded and shared all over the internet.

Whatever you decide, you know best. I suspect you're now in a much better position to decide.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm a professional photographer and as a few people have mentioned, the images will be the property of the photographer.

The list below is probably the best advice if you did want to do it with someone. I'd add that most decent photographer would want to edit the images, so if you did have lightroom or something similar on your computer, they could do it with you there.

Personally, as a professional, the ramifications of sharing someone's images without permission is simply not worth it.

Hope that helps?!


"Fairly stright forward.

1. Ensure the camera uses one flash card.

2. Purchase a flash card of the correct type.

3. Ensure that she/he uses that card.

4. Ensure the camera synch to phone feature is off I.e. Bluetooth and wireless is off.

5. Ensure you get the card back after the session.

Hopefully that should ensure your pics are secure.

Xx"

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