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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I’ve seen posts about the nervousness of men wanting to try bi or bi curious play. Why is it more accepted that women play this way without the stigma? Is it because girl on girl is more visible in porn. For me play with a woman was a big step. However it’s often seen for a man pleasure in a mff set up than mmf bi play? |
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" Because most males think being Bi isn't masculine ??.....  "
Actually, from the trillion threads on here re this issue, it's more the fact that some women find bi men less masculine, or unappealing for some reason.
Also some couples are dubious because they worry the guy is gonna be the victim of the uncontrollable urges of bi men.
Why risk reducing an already small area of Fab?
Of course, there are those that think being bi is unmanly, but it's alright to kneel before a guy and suck his cock. Lies and delusion are in no short supply here, hence the "Fab straight" contingent  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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That makes sense. Not to hinder chances as I often see “no bi men” on couples profiles. Personally I’ve been with two bi men. As long as everyone is safe their label doesn’t bother me |
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"That makes sense. Not to hinder chances as I often see “no bi men” on couples profiles. Personally I’ve been with two bi men. As long as everyone is safe their label doesn’t bother me "
The thing is, those who have 'no bi men' have probably already had bi men in the home, in their wife, around them and are non the wiser. It's almost like they arent irresistible to bi men like they think they are. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I had bi curious on my profile, for the fear of admitting being bi sexual would put women off meets. I'm now open about it (at least on here) I get lots of winks, fabs and messages from "straight guys" here, very few ever reply to my response. Fab can be a very frustrating for us bi guys, so I totally understand people's decision to not be so forthcoming |
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"That makes sense. Not to hinder chances as I often see “no bi men” on couples profiles. Personally I’ve been with two bi men. As long as everyone is safe their label doesn’t bother me
The thing is, those who have 'no bi men' have probably already had bi men in the home, in their wife, around them and are non the wiser. It's almost like they arent irresistible to bi men like they think they are. "
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By *azmar62Couple
over a year ago
Hinckley |
We’re openly bisexual and if people can’t deal with it, tough. Freedom of expression is a right, we’ll never judge anyone. Masculinity isn’t affected in the slightest, I’m a man and proud of it. Just because I like cock doesn’t change a thing. Is being greedy a problem? Well apparently it is to most on here. Live and be free to be who you want to be. Trolls love these threads. Lol x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"We’re openly bisexual and if people can’t deal with it, tough. Freedom of expression is a right, we’ll never judge anyone. Masculinity isn’t affected in the slightest, I’m a man and proud of it. Just because I like cock doesn’t change a thing. Is being greedy a problem? Well apparently it is to most on here. Live and be free to be who you want to be. Trolls love these threads. Lol x"
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By *empted23Couple
over a year ago
countryside |
I agree the very stark difference between bi sexuality on here in society and especially on here
Women’s Bi sexuality runs from
Encouraged / to / Almsot Expected
But Bi sexuality in a male runs from slightly frowned upon / to / that’s gross go away
How ever having had a penis all my life
Just as a straight guy
I know atleast a reasonable guess why
Men are greedy pigs
They will stick it anywhere they can as often as they can
And getting them to always wear protection
Is like getting a toddler to keep their shoes on when you leave the room
So gay bi men
Left alone it’s likely to be a bare back fee for all and then they want to come and play with a married couple
There is a heightened risk of all manner of problems
I also agree many probably have played with the bi guy who hides it
So are still exposed to that risk
Which is why single males are just less often sought after
And couples more often play with couples
They all know where each other has been
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have recently started to explore my bi side (male) and I would say that there is a stigma about it and that it makes less of a man? But I am a very male man if that makes sense. Also possibly there is a worry with straight male couples that a bi guy would jump on them.
Just my gut feeling. May be very wrong and I'm sure others will have different opinions.
Would love to meet a bi couple for all around fun |
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By *.T.Man
over a year ago
Glasgow |
There is also the continued stigma of HIV. If you are a man who likes the cock, you are seen to be in a higher risk category.
This, like cheaters and barebackers, just encourages people to lie about their preferences. |
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Men do what women want them to; or at the very least what they believe women want them to; in order to maximise sexual access.
This is the root of many male behaviours and almost all male status symbols.
If you want to know why men don't feel comfortable being bi, examine what the effect will be on the width of the sexual net they can cast before and after the admission.
If it's larger, men will be more likely to be openly bi. If it's smaller, they will be more likely to hide or suppress any interest.
The numbers are pretty easy to figure out in this case. Despite claims to the contrary, when it comes to male on male action women are far more homophobic than men. |
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By *N4funCouple
over a year ago
Manchester |
As a couple we've gone from both being straight on Fab to me becoming Bi curious, finding it more enjoyable in a 3 some and we actively look at guys who are at least orally Bi. Bit more play time and we may be ready to try a full Bi MMF night of fun  |
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I don't think it's more accepted for women I just think women are more open about their sexuality.
Here for example so many men state they are straight but message other men wanting to meet, men just aren't as open through their own acceptance no one else's.
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I think a lot of guys find being honest about their sexuality is a hindrance, simply because they just want a shag, and if that lessens their chances, then they won't openly admit it.
A lot of couples and single ladies won't meet bi guys. I personally find that fair enough, each to their own, but I like to be honest from the outset for the avoidance of misinterpretation later.
Then on the flip side of that, a lot of Bi couples are cautious, as they sometimes think guys change their status to Bi, just to shag the female half.
It's a wicked complicated world out there. |
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It is a double standard of fab
Bi women are encouraged as its many mens and couples fantasy to have MFF.
Many men will put straight down instead of being honest,as it can stop. Some couples and women meeting them.
My other half can be orally bi with the right people,we are honest about it on our joint profile.If it puts people off ,so be it. |
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There's definitely still a stigma attached to bi guys, you only need to read this thread!
Having played with straight and bi guys, and bearing in mind that the general level of sexual health awareness on fab is still woeful, in our experience the bi guys are always more educated, rarely are they into full on anal fun, and they get tested a lot more often than straight guys!
Everyone assumes if you like a bit of cock fun occasionally, then you're also probably down the canal getting fucked bareback by strangers every night!
And we can absolutely attest that we've had bi mmf fun with a lot of guys who are verified by 'no bi guys' couples...
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"I agree the very stark difference between bi sexuality on here in society and especially on here
Women’s Bi sexuality runs from
Encouraged / to / Almsot Expected
But Bi sexuality in a male runs from slightly frowned upon / to / that’s gross go away
How ever having had a penis all my life
Just as a straight guy
I know atleast a reasonable guess why
Men are greedy pigs
They will stick it anywhere they can as often as they can
And getting them to always wear protection
Is like getting a toddler to keep their shoes on when you leave the room
So gay bi men
Left alone it’s likely to be a bare back fee for all and then they want to come and play with a married couple
There is a heightened risk of all manner of problems
I also agree many probably have played with the bi guy who hides it
So are still exposed to that risk
Which is why single males are just less often sought after
And couples more often play with couples
They all know where each other has been
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This is such a bad take.
Most men meet men (usually for a blowjob) because it's about 1,000 times easier to get then meeting a woman/couple. That's it.
It has nothing to do with "men are reckless, mindless animals" that want to fuck everything bare - that might apply to you, but it certainly doesn't apply to me or most men we know, regardless of their sexuality. |
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By *mber81Woman
over a year ago
Lives in Preston, Eng |
I find it incredibly sad that there is a stigma for bi men. I am attracted to people who are totally, unapologetically themselves and that definitely includes bi guys when they are open.
But I am also frustrated by men who are bi that then list that they are straight to get more sex from women. But I think that is because I need to like the person I am with and I can't imagine having sex with someone that wouldn't accept who I am as a person.
Too many people seem to think that being gay or bi means that you are not masculine and to be a man you have to be masculine. Rubbish in my opinion. I am attracted to the masculinity that is feeling comfortable in yourself.
Masculinity can be sexy or it can be toxic. It cannot be both. For me anyway. |
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We are both bi and have noticed especially in the club seen that girl on girl is definitely more excepted than male on male.
Due to this Rick only playes bi on private meets,most bi nights in clubs are in the week and we can not attend.
Swinging is supposed to be an open and excepting community but there are still some that frown upon male bi play |
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By *rMs.NeekCouple
over a year ago
Worcestershire |
I think many have touched on this and its twofold. Girl on girl is common porn material. I'm bi and have been among time. Most men when you meet them openly admit to wanting to see 2 girls. Basically because they think they can join in and girls would be desperate for cock.
Secondly it's due to the historical view of gay men being feminine and poofs and therfore not masculine enough. So bi men would hide it
1 isn't true. Women can satisfy each other fine without cock
2nd part is just bull (in my opinion) . That's been proliferated over the years by men basically.
I'd have no problem with a bi man |
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By *empted23Couple
over a year ago
countryside |
"I agree the very stark difference between bi sexuality on here in society and especially on here
Women’s Bi sexuality runs from
Encouraged / to / Almsot Expected
But Bi sexuality in a male runs from slightly frowned upon / to / that’s gross go away
How ever having had a penis all my life
Just as a straight guy
I know atleast a reasonable guess why
Men are greedy pigs
They will stick it anywhere they can as often as they can
And getting them to always wear protection
Is like getting a toddler to keep their shoes on when you leave the room
So gay bi men
Left alone it’s likely to be a bare back fee for all and then they want to come and play with a married couple
There is a heightened risk of all manner of problems
I also agree many probably have played with the bi guy who hides it
So are still exposed to that risk
Which is why single males are just less often sought after
And couples more often play with couples
They all know where each other has been
Preview:
This is such a bad take.
Most men meet men (usually for a blowjob) because it's about 1,000 times easier to get then meeting a woman/couple. That's it.
It has nothing to do with "men are reckless, mindless animals" that want to fuck everything bare - that might apply to you, but it certainly doesn't apply to me or most men we know, regardless of their sexuality. "
Well I’m glad that has been your experience
But having been around swinging since befor the internet when it was contact magazines
And been around kink and fetish for 20 yrs
And been an event organiser for parties
I am actually qualified to speak on the subject and my absolute experience is that my statement was not
“ a bad take “
But an entirely accurate take backed up by multiple decades of significantly in depth experience
But if it makes you so uncomfortable that this is the case feel free to try and be derogatory towards me again
I don’t mind
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By *azmar62Couple
over a year ago
Hinckley |
"I agree the very stark difference between bi sexuality on here in society and especially on here
Women’s Bi sexuality runs from
Encouraged / to / Almsot Expected
But Bi sexuality in a male runs from slightly frowned upon / to / that’s gross go away
How ever having had a penis all my life
Just as a straight guy
I know atleast a reasonable guess why
Men are greedy pigs
They will stick it anywhere they can as often as they can
And getting them to always wear protection
Is like getting a toddler to keep their shoes on when you leave the room
So gay bi men
Left alone it’s likely to be a bare back fee for all and then they want to come and play with a married couple
There is a heightened risk of all manner of problems
I also agree many probably have played with the bi guy who hides it
So are still exposed to that risk
Which is why single males are just less often sought after
And couples more often play with couples
They all know where each other has been
Preview:
This is such a bad take.
Most men meet men (usually for a blowjob) because it's about 1,000 times easier to get then meeting a woman/couple. That's it.
It has nothing to do with "men are reckless, mindless animals" that want to fuck everything bare - that might apply to you, but it certainly doesn't apply to me or most men we know, regardless of their sexuality.
Well I’m glad that has been your experience
But having been around swinging since befor the internet when it was contact magazines
And been around kink and fetish for 20 yrs
And been an event organiser for parties
I am actually qualified to speak on the subject and my absolute experience is that my statement was not
“ a bad take “
But an entirely accurate take backed up by multiple decades of significantly in depth experience
But if it makes you so uncomfortable that this is the case feel free to try and be derogatory towards me again
I don’t mind
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This is definitely what popcorn was made for. Hopefully the debate will find the truth. |
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"We’re openly bisexual and if people can’t deal with it, tough. Freedom of expression is a right, we’ll never judge anyone. Masculinity isn’t affected in the slightest, I’m a man and proud of it. Just because I like cock doesn’t change a thing. Is being greedy a problem? Well apparently it is to most on here. Live and be free to be who you want to be. Trolls love these threads. Lol x"
totally agree. We have written our profile to explain who.we are and what we enjoy. Both enjoy the freedom when meeting women, men or couples and feel that it is right to be up front about our sexuality. Only looking for people who like our profile! Lol
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I personally don’t think the majority of men these days hide the fact that they are bisexual. See a lot of men that are bisexual looking for couples.
And rightly so that everyone should be allowed to be themselves.
My husband would love to see me with another women. But we have no desire to see him with another man. But we know so many couples would love that.
It’s all about preference |
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"I agree the very stark difference between bi sexuality on here in society and especially on here
Women’s Bi sexuality runs from
Encouraged / to / Almsot Expected
But Bi sexuality in a male runs from slightly frowned upon / to / that’s gross go away
How ever having had a penis all my life
Just as a straight guy
I know atleast a reasonable guess why
Men are greedy pigs
They will stick it anywhere they can as often as they can
And getting them to always wear protection
Is like getting a toddler to keep their shoes on when you leave the room
So gay bi men
Left alone it’s likely to be a bare back fee for all and then they want to come and play with a married couple
There is a heightened risk of all manner of problems
I also agree many probably have played with the bi guy who hides it
So are still exposed to that risk
Which is why single males are just less often sought after
And couples more often play with couples
They all know where each other has been
Preview:
This is such a bad take.
Most men meet men (usually for a blowjob) because it's about 1,000 times easier to get then meeting a woman/couple. That's it.
It has nothing to do with "men are reckless, mindless animals" that want to fuck everything bare - that might apply to you, but it certainly doesn't apply to me or most men we know, regardless of their sexuality.
Well I’m glad that has been your experience
But having been around swinging since befor the internet when it was contact magazines
And been around kink and fetish for 20 yrs
And been an event organiser for parties
I am actually qualified to speak on the subject and my absolute experience is that my statement was not
“ a bad take “
But an entirely accurate take backed up by multiple decades of significantly in depth experience
But if it makes you so uncomfortable that this is the case feel free to try and be derogatory towards me again
I don’t mind
"
I've also been part of the scene for 20 years, done the clubs, events, parties - you name it. And my significant in-depth experience likely involves a lot more experience with bi/gay men than yours, since you're straight.
So, since we're both using anecdotal evidence, my point is that not all men are the same - especially bi men - and MAYBE making sweeping generalisations about a particular group of people (which includes both of us) isn't that helpful, especially when they already face stigma. |
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"I agree the very stark difference between bi sexuality on here in society and especially on here
Women’s Bi sexuality runs from
Encouraged / to / Almsot Expected
But Bi sexuality in a male runs from slightly frowned upon / to / that’s gross go away
How ever having had a penis all my life
Just as a straight guy
I know atleast a reasonable guess why
Men are greedy pigs
They will stick it anywhere they can as often as they can
And getting them to always wear protection
Is like getting a toddler to keep their shoes on when you leave the room
So gay bi men
Left alone it’s likely to be a bare back fee for all and then they want to come and play with a married couple
There is a heightened risk of all manner of problems
I also agree many probably have played with the bi guy who hides it
So are still exposed to that risk
Which is why single males are just less often sought after
And couples more often play with couples
They all know where each other has been
Preview:
This is such a bad take.
Most men meet men (usually for a blowjob) because it's about 1,000 times easier to get then meeting a woman/couple. That's it.
It has nothing to do with "men are reckless, mindless animals" that want to fuck everything bare - that might apply to you, but it certainly doesn't apply to me or most men we know, regardless of their sexuality.
Well I’m glad that has been your experience
But having been around swinging since befor the internet when it was contact magazines
And been around kink and fetish for 20 yrs
And been an event organiser for parties
I am actually qualified to speak on the subject and my absolute experience is that my statement was not
“ a bad take “
But an entirely accurate take backed up by multiple decades of significantly in depth experience
But if it makes you so uncomfortable that this is the case feel free to try and be derogatory towards me again
I don’t mind
I've also been part of the scene for 20 years, done the clubs, events, parties - you name it. And my significant in-depth experience likely involves a lot more experience with bi/gay men than yours, since you're straight.
So, since we're both using anecdotal evidence, my point is that not all men are the same - especially bi men - and MAYBE making sweeping generalisations about a particular group of people (which includes both of us) isn't that helpful, especially when they already face stigma. "
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By *empted23Couple
over a year ago
countryside |
"I agree the very stark difference between bi sexuality on here in society and especially on here
Women’s Bi sexuality runs from
Encouraged / to / Almsot Expected
But Bi sexuality in a male runs from slightly frowned upon / to / that’s gross go away
How ever having had a penis all my life
Just as a straight guy
I know atleast a reasonable guess why
Men are greedy pigs
They will stick it anywhere they can as often as they can
And getting them to always wear protection
Is like getting a toddler to keep their shoes on when you leave the room
So gay bi men
Left alone it’s likely to be a bare back fee for all and then they want to come and play with a married couple
There is a heightened risk of all manner of problems
I also agree many probably have played with the bi guy who hides it
So are still exposed to that risk
Which is why single males are just less often sought after
And couples more often play with couples
They all know where each other has been
Preview:
This is such a bad take.
Most men meet men (usually for a blowjob) because it's about 1,000 times easier to get then meeting a woman/couple. That's it.
It has nothing to do with "men are reckless, mindless animals" that want to fuck everything bare - that might apply to you, but it certainly doesn't apply to me or most men we know, regardless of their sexuality.
Well I’m glad that has been your experience
But having been around swinging since befor the internet when it was contact magazines
And been around kink and fetish for 20 yrs
And been an event organiser for parties
I am actually qualified to speak on the subject and my absolute experience is that my statement was not
“ a bad take “
But an entirely accurate take backed up by multiple decades of significantly in depth experience
But if it makes you so uncomfortable that this is the case feel free to try and be derogatory towards me again
I don’t mind
I've also been part of the scene for 20 years, done the clubs, events, parties - you name it. And my significant in-depth experience likely involves a lot more experience with bi/gay men than yours, since you're straight.
So, since we're both using anecdotal evidence, my point is that not all men are the same - especially bi men - and MAYBE making sweeping generalisations about a particular group of people (which includes both of us) isn't that helpful, especially when they already face stigma. Perfect reply. "
It isn’t actually , firstly they somewhat missed my point
I agreed there shouldn’t be the stigma there is
My apparently sweeping statement was more about the general behavior of all men regarding protection.
And I’m reasonably happy to accept that the profile that has taken issue has more experience specifically in Bi or gay play
But one event I have run was a TV appreciation event and I remember one person used a condom
I remember it
Cos it was the only one !
No one else did
and as for a many many many straight events
Exactly the same everyone says in there profile they play safe but don’t
And then once you place the very much increased amount of casual sex within the gay / bi community
Then the fact they are all men and in the moment are far less likely to use protection wether gay / bi / or straight
There was and isn’t anything wrong with my statement |
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