FabSwingers.com > Forums > Swingers Chat > Raceplay - to taboo?
Raceplay - to taboo?
Jump to: Newest in thread
 |
By *nkyCplCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
Going to guess it’s stuff like people being superior/inferior due to race.
In that instance it’s not something I would ever even remotely consider, but just treat like you would any other fairly extreme kink. Ensure all parties are fully aware & consent to EVERY little detail. I would advise writing down and signing to say understood & agreed. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
Babbacombe Torquay |
"Going to guess it’s stuff like people being superior/inferior due to race.
In that instance it’s not something I would ever even remotely consider, but just treat like you would any other fairly extreme kink. Ensure all parties are fully aware & consent to EVERY little detail. I would advise writing down and signing to say understood & agreed."
So you advocate signing a contract before entering into play with someone of another colour?
I think you might be overthinking this. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Is this white people dressing up as black people and vice versa?
Think it’s frowned upon these days tbh.
I was about to pull my Black and White Minstrels costume out of the closet then...damn  "
It will be moth eaten by now!!!  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Going to guess it’s stuff like people being superior/inferior due to race.
In that instance it’s not something I would ever even remotely consider, but just treat like you would any other fairly extreme kink. Ensure all parties are fully aware & consent to EVERY little detail. I would advise writing down and signing to say understood & agreed.
So you advocate signing a contract before entering into play with someone of another colour?
I think you might be overthinking this."
I think they mean if you start using "racist" terminology etc. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Is this white people dressing up as black people and vice versa?
Think it’s frowned upon these days tbh.
I was about to pull my Black and White Minstrels costume out of the closet then...damn
It will be moth eaten by now!!! "
I still wear it occasionally, just without the "Black Face".
(Disclaimer: jokes are written in context of this thread and in no way adhere to anything that I have ever done.) |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *amaelMan
over a year ago
London |
"Ok, in all seriousness....what is it ?"
I think at its core it has to do with the sub and dominant dynamic.
It's using inappropriate words and being demeaning on the basis that it gets both parties off Using Racial dynamics. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Ok, in all seriousness....what is it ?
I think at its core it has to do with the sub and dominant dynamic.
It's using inappropriate words and being demeaning on the basis that it gets both parties off Using Racial dynamics."
Mmm. Ok. So using the N word and similar white alternatives ?
Because Dom/sub has never been racially biased.
Throughout history more people of same colour have dominated their peers.
Is it a very niche thing with specific role play? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *nkyCplCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
"Going to guess it’s stuff like people being superior/inferior due to race.
In that instance it’s not something I would ever even remotely consider, but just treat like you would any other fairly extreme kink. Ensure all parties are fully aware & consent to EVERY little detail. I would advise writing down and signing to say understood & agreed.
So you advocate signing a contract before entering into play with someone of another colour?
I think you might be overthinking this."
I advocate signing something for anything towards the extreme, yes. Got to protect yourself. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago
Burnleyish (She/They) |
"Going to guess it’s stuff like people being superior/inferior due to race.
In that instance it’s not something I would ever even remotely consider, but just treat like you would any other fairly extreme kink. Ensure all parties are fully aware & consent to EVERY little detail. I would advise writing down and signing to say understood & agreed.
So you advocate signing a contract before entering into play with someone of another colour?
I think you might be overthinking this."
I don't think it's overthinking at all.
And no not when you're playing with anyone of a different race to yourself.
But when you're looking to play in areas around race play (especially with humiliation - which is how most people playing in this area are looking to play), having defined limits and having well negotiated is essential.
Personally it's not for me, but as someone who has a thing for humiliation, I can understand why it is a thing for some people.
Although given the sensitive nature of such play (and the legal implications) I personally think such play should be kept private as opposed to in clubs etc. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Have done it both ways. When first approached about it it was a huge fucking no. Ya racist twat.
But after that I thought more on it an now love it on special occasions.
I used to be a life long sub but found my domme side too.
Its now just used as another fetish, playing close to a trigger but consent b4 the event.
I know I'm a strong powerful black woman so not mind being someone's bitch for an hour, it don't change who I am after.
I've seen people do it 24/7 but thats not for me. But have also known those who act like a pet 24/7.
Live and let live
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Depends on the chemistry and who and why. If it’s the main reason someone wants to meet then nah - they must be a bit tapped in the head.
But I don’t mind if just an added addition and it’s harmless (aka not based on the idea of my ethnicity being forbidden). |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago
Burnleyish (She/They) |
"Have done it both ways. When first approached about it it was a huge fucking no. Ya racist twat.
But after that I thought more on it an now love it on special occasions.
I used to be a life long sub but found my domme side too.
Its now just used as another fetish, playing close to a trigger but consent b4 the event.
I know I'm a strong powerful black woman so not mind being someone's bitch for an hour, it don't change who I am after.
I've seen people do it 24/7 but thats not for me. But have also known those who act like a pet 24/7.
Live and let live
"
I think I'm always going to raise an eyebrow when the person encouraging or asking for race play is white.
I've played that way when I was working as a Pro Dom, but only ever when asked for it and I've never been wholly comfortable with it...
But like with most extreme forms of play i can see how it's as much about taking control of a situation or reclaiming it, much like the play that can't be mentioned that rhymes with vape. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Why do people think this dynamic goes only one way?
More black people have been taken by black people than white. More white people have been taken by black peoples than they have taken.
Human trafficking is always about power and has never been based on colour.
The modern arrogance of thinking that it was constrained to one period and involved only one race taking another is just ridiculous.
Barbara pirates were operating off our coasts only a short time ago and taking English seamen to be used in Arabia and Africa.
Role play that one.  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *nkyCplCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
"Why do people think this dynamic goes only one way?
More black people have been taken by black people than white. More white people have been taken by black peoples than they have taken.
Human trafficking is always about power and has never been based on colour.
The modern arrogance of thinking that it was constrained to one period and involved only one race taking another is just ridiculous.
Barbara pirates were operating off our coasts only a short time ago and taking English seamen to be used in Arabia and Africa.
Role play that one. "
Dude don’t bring that into something that’s purely a kink/fetish. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Ok, but to fetishise a leftist agenda and make race an issue is just wrong.
Race play should be all inclusive and not a narrowed perception of a moment in time.
We spend all our time talking about eradicating racism. Let's start actually living that...everywhere. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *nkyCplCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
"Ok, but to fetishise a leftist agenda and make race an issue is just wrong.
Race play should be all inclusive and not a narrowed perception of a moment in time.
We spend all our time talking about eradicating racism. Let's start actually living that...everywhere. "
There’s no leftist agenda here. Race play should be whatever the consenting adults want it to be. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Who's into race play? Or is that to taboo?
Aren't these just "inter racial meets" or... to be wholly woke.."meets".
Surely the persons colour is an incidental in the attraction process?"
........................
It's where the race isn't incidental to the attraction and race is fetishised. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I love race place. I like the white girls to go full on Ms Cottonworth of the Conttonfield plantation on me
I give them scripts and questions of what to say to a point and give them flexibility to just act out |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *nkyCplCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
"I love race place. I like the white girls to go full on Ms Cottonworth of the Conttonfield plantation on me
I give them scripts and questions of what to say to a point and give them flexibility to just act out"
I wasn’t sure exactly what it was until the missus (ex pro Domme) described similar to what you’re into (and waaaaaaay “worse”). |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Who's into race play? Or is that to taboo?
Aren't these just "inter racial meets" or... to be wholly woke.."meets".
Surely the persons colour is an incidental in the attraction process?
........................
It's where the race isn't incidental to the attraction and race is fetishised."
So purely about race ? There are no other characteristics they like? Short, fat,tall,bald,disabled ?
How are these different from BBC lovers ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Lol
I like that
Klingon and Cardassian
Romulans and Vulcans
"Is raceplay only black people or like can we play Chinese girl and mongol horde warrior.
Klingon and Cardassian
Or is it always plantation owner and blacks in shackles? "
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
My main issue with race play is the use of extremely racist language and scenarios. And I am also not sure how someone could be so comfortable using the language or getting into that character and it not be a reflection of their character? I don’t know race play is just not for me. And also I think lots of people in the thread don’t quite get how extreme it is and think it’s just meeting someone of another race  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I try to avoid race play because the guy finishing last unusually ends up having to eat the soggy biscuit.
Sorry, bad joke. I don't know exactly what race play is, but I've been with guys and girls from many different ethnic backgrounds, so it's not really something I've thought of as a fetish myself. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I love race place. I like the white girls to go full on Ms Cottonworth of the Conttonfield plantation on me
I give them scripts and questions of what to say to a point and give them flexibility to just act out"
You see as long as the people involved are ok with this scenario then its got nothing to do with anyone else, Even if they say that's racist, fuck them and enjoy what gets you off |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I love race place. I like the white girls to go full on Ms Cottonworth of the Conttonfield plantation on me
I give them scripts and questions of what to say to a point and give them flexibility to just act out
You see as long as the people involved are ok with this scenario then its got nothing to do with anyone else, Even if they say that's racist, fuck them and enjoy what gets you off "
Do you think you could be racist to your partner as part of sex?
Not shady I’m being genuine |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"We’ve been asked a few times and it’s an absolute no. We think for some it would be a good cover for them to be their real selves in plain sight"
Personally I don’t get how someone can just turn off and on the extreme racism like that so I think I’d need to understand more how they justify that.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I love race place. I like the white girls to go full on Ms Cottonworth of the Conttonfield plantation on me
I give them scripts and questions of what to say to a point and give them flexibility to just act out
You see as long as the people involved are ok with this scenario then its got nothing to do with anyone else, Even if they say that's racist, fuck them and enjoy what gets you off
Do you think you could be racist to your partner as part of sex?
Not shady I’m being genuine"
That type of scenario isn't for me but like I said if the people involved get off on it that's down to them, They don't need to think if other people think it's racist or not |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ensualMan
over a year ago
Sutton |
Personally not for me, but as with all things kink and fetish consenting adults and all that.
However, I can understand the objections, but there are always well intentioned people who will have grounds for objecting to most kinks.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I absolutely love it. Totally understand that it's a very niche kink and how it makes people feel uncomfortable. However, to me it's no different to people who enjoy other roleplays - fab won't let me say the word but think race with one letter changed x |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"My main issue with race play is the use of extremely racist language and scenarios. And I am also not sure how someone could be so comfortable using the language or getting into that character and it not be a reflection of their character? I don’t know race play is just not for me. And also I think lots of people in the thread don’t quite get how extreme it is and think it’s just meeting someone of another race "
I'd tend to align with this train of thought but add to it as in what's the driver for the person on the receiving end, what do you think it says about their character? Its not something I understand or would be into. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
"Who's into race play? Or is that to taboo?"
. By race play I am assuming you mean black & white.If so I would have no problem playing with a black girl but I would not feel comfortable using derogatory words about the ladies colour.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Who's into race play? Or is that to taboo?"
LOVE IT! It isn’t for everyone but those who are into it have a special place in my lust. However, you would be surprised how many couples/women go there when you give them permission and are sincere with it. Like I say, it isn’t for everyone but again you would truly surprised at what consenting adults can get up to.  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I love race place. I like the white girls to go full on Ms Cottonworth of the Conttonfield plantation on me
I give them scripts and questions of what to say to a point and give them flexibility to just act out"
Wow. Never thought of that. Really deep. Seems like a lot of work. But thanks for the idea. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *onnyadtMan
over a year ago
Uttoxeter |
Yes I've done this and it's not for everyone, especially the more extreme end. All parties have to be 100% none offensive but more importantly unoffended and always remember it's mutual roleplay. Most people won't get it or agree with it but consenting adults n all that. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ensualMan
over a year ago
Sutton |
"am certainly intrigued with this as I love roleplay, but wouldnt know where to begin, or how you would even approach someone about it"
Not my thing in the slightest, but I would suggest looking up articles by Mollena Williams (now Mollena Williams-Haas.
She has a book
Mollena Williams
The Toybag Guide to Playing With Taboo (Toybag Guides)
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
The fundamental starting point of all fetishistic play is that it is done between fully aware consenting adults. It is also an aspect of fetish play is that it is taboo, and edgy.
It should be noted that raceplay goes both ways.
However, the old saying in BDSM in regard to consenting adults is, "I am not into what you do, but I respect your right to do it".
Most BDSM if directed towards someone who has not consented would be illegal and rightly subject to condemnation.
A view is that, on Fab we see sex and hedonism masquerading as BDSM and held out as the only way to do kink. There are "players" representing themselves as dominants, dommes, masters mistresses. All of which sets a sexual low bar for discussion on BDSM and kink.
There appears to me to be a serious lack of understanding around the protocols and behaviours of anything deeper in BDSM and kink.
There is also the inability to have those discussions and debates on Fab to get peoples' views and to increase the education. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I don't know too much about raceplay, but I have a couples profile with an Asian girl and the fetishisation that goes on is crazy. Literally dozens of messages a day from horndogs begging to meet because fucking an Asian girl is their ultimate fantasy. It seems the race aspect is all they care about, more than looks, age personal outlook etc. Needless to say, we don't meet the ones who harp on about race as it speaks volumes to their intellectual level. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Not personally. As to taboo that's all a matter of space. Within in context of your fantasies and in the sanctuary of your bedroom with consenting adults not taboo at all IMO. Our fantasies and kinks are part of us. We shouldn't feel shame over them. However (as I'm sure common sense dictates) not a kink to be openly expressed in the general public domain because understandably like many other kinks it may cause distress to others.
Mr |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Not personally. As to taboo that's all a matter of space. Within in context of your fantasies and in the sanctuary of your bedroom with consenting adults not taboo at all IMO. Our fantasies and kinks are part of us. We shouldn't feel shame over them. However (as I'm sure common sense dictates) not a kink to be openly expressed in the general public domain because understandably like many other kinks it may cause distress to others.
Mr"
Your online persona is so much more sensible than how you are in person 👋🏾 |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Not personally. As to taboo that's all a matter of space. Within in context of your fantasies and in the sanctuary of your bedroom with consenting adults not taboo at all IMO. Our fantasies and kinks are part of us. We shouldn't feel shame over them. However (as I'm sure common sense dictates) not a kink to be openly expressed in the general public domain because understandably like many other kinks it may cause distress to others.
Mr
Your online persona is so much more sensible than how you are in person 👋🏾"
There's other dimensions to me beneath the frivolity |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I don't know too much about raceplay, but I have a couples profile with an Asian girl and the fetishisation that goes on is crazy. Literally dozens of messages a day from horndogs begging to meet because fucking an Asian girl is their ultimate fantasy. It seems the race aspect is all they care about, more than looks, age personal outlook etc. Needless to say, we don't meet the ones who harp on about race as it speaks volumes to their intellectual level."
Race is a fact - I hope site owners add Race preference button or check box in search as well as when someone creating their profile. It would help Asians to avoid chatting with people who aren’t into them, saves time and energy and humiliation of being ghosted as soon as they say I am Asian or Indian. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
There will always be race play in some form.
As for taboo? That's really in the mind of whoever is playing.
We've had people hinting at it, suggesting it, we've even played a few scenarios. It's fine, fantasies are good fun.
We leave any deeper questions of meaning at the bedroom door. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ister_EMan 2 weeks ago
Hayling Island |
I'm open to a lot of different role-playing and fantasy scenarios but that is a massive Taboo for me personally. Although I was raised in an openly racist culture in Apartheid era South Africa I am a big fan of interacial play..
I was the first kid in my school to have an openly interracial relationship and it was something we both caught a lot of abuse for and it was something that would have been illegal only a few years before.
I don't like to judge other people's fantasies or kink shame, so I don't condem race play, it's simply not for me though. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ubcup2Couple 2 weeks ago
London |
What is clear is that both the interpretation of race play, plus the actual race play itself means different things to different people.
I asked the last black guy I met, if he was interested in race play.
He didn't question what I meant but said yes, implying that only if he was the dominant race.
This was obvious as he already knew I was submissive to his dominant role.
He even said that it made it a more powerful experience, his words not mine.
Several years ago, I asked the same question to a guy we met socially as a precursor to a meet and he walked off in a huff, calling us racists and saying he was going to report us to Fab!
Just tread carefully. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
