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Men… how have attitudes changed towards trans / TV’s from the perspective of you and your mates
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Interested to know how perceptions have changed over the years from typical male groups when discussing trans / TV’s especially when it comes to sex and attentiveness. Interested to know what’s been said / experienced from a lad banter point of view |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We don't talk about it we mainly talk about sport "
This
Might only mention it if we spot 1 on a night out or that video of the lad with the ladyboy in Thailand.
My group of mates all live and let live though but as straight men they wouldn't be interested in anything sexual with a TV/TS.
So far as I know anyway.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Maybe a better way of asking the same question might be, if one of your mates openly admitted to have a girlfriend who happened to be trans, what (if anything) would the rest of your group of friends make of it ? |
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I know if I were to talk about it with my friends they wouldn't have a problem with it at all.
The one friend I have slightly spoken too about it all was very on board with it.
My friends are not your typical group of lads though... And I thank god everyday for it |
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Everyone I know female/male friends just treat it as normal infact I have said on many times omg she looks better then most women if that's the correct term to use, but I think the world has changed and I've never heard anything bad being said about gays tv ts etc in london. Oh the Sam Smith pics and way he is now has caused a stir and that's from female friends too, but bar that just treated way you would treat everyone. |
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I think in general people are more open and accepting these days. It’s great that young kids are able to be their true selves and not have to hide who they are.
As for how my friends are about it, I’m fortunate to have very enlightened friends, male and female, so it doesn’t really register much in the ‘banter’ stakes. |
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By *isser36Man
over a year ago
fylde Coast |
Well one of the younger lads at football got talking and flirting with a TS (who was fucking stunning by the way) and he was given it the big'un showing the lads "look who am chatting too were gona meet up" and the likes and most of us were like nice one go for it lad! but one of the lads knew her and obviously knew she was TS and gave him the news and he was gutted! Said they were getting on so well and was looking forward to going further! I asked him why wouldn't he now? and it wasn't because she was TS but because he thought he'd get shit off everyone for seeing her, now am sure he would have gotten some stick to begin with but once the novelty wore off no one would have given a shit and she would have been welcomed into the group and no doubt would have got some light hearted stick herself! We are all a pretty open minded and wouldn't have given a hoot if they were both happy! and I told him as much. Alas I don't think he ever pursued it or rather he never mentioned it to anyone if he did. I guess that's my only real experience with the subject and as far as am concerned (and the opinion of my mates at least) everyone is entitled to live however they like with whoever they like and I wouldn't associate with anyone who was so insecure with themselves to be an arse to anyone different to them. Attitudes have change without a doubt... could they improve more? Without a doubt. |
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I have said a few times, I think the T of LGBT, are still the least accepted, but we are still in a farrrrr better place than a few years ago. I would ever have dreamt of going out in public back then, but on tbe times I have been out, yes I get looks, and double takes, but (touch wood), have always been treated with courtesy, as a lady, in the main.
I’m afraid that issues like the Scottish rapist held in a female jail don’t help the narrative, there is still a perception that we are predatory, and perverted!
In terms of groups accepting, I will be honest, despite perhaps being the most ‘educated’ and aware of diversity, it is groups of adolescents that will often laugh, and occasionally make comment….. I think I may also avoid Wetherspoons on a Saturday afternoon!!
R xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This is qma great post
As an admirers if trans folk for many years the simple answer is yes. Growing up as a young man in the army ladybugs in Thailand was all that was known (and sampled by many and openly discussed). We see the teans community with a place in society today. Not the safest strangest place currently but definitely evolving positively in my opinion |
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By *b72Man
over a year ago
Nottingham |
Avoiding witherspoon isn't a bad thing for anybody.
I hate to say it, but amungst my peer group the rainbow "isn't" accepted. At best there's ambivalence. It's why my work group and my social group will never meet, and my sexual orientation is my own business, even with my eclectic social circle. |
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By *anddXXXCouple
over a year ago
London |
I think it depends on whether it's tolerance or sex we were talking about.
As stated on here already, I think the vast majority are a lot more tolerant of others these days. So personally I couldnt give a toot, what someone dresses up in, whether male or female. Sex on the otherhand, I have no physical attraction to the male appendage or body, so no matter what clothes, hormones etc are involved, I wouldn't be interested sexually, even if they looked like Kate Moss, it would still be someone with a cock who looked like Kate Moss.
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Mates of mine know I love to play with trans women and are pretty cool about it, I've always been known as the horny shagger in the group so nobody was surprised I was into swinging and bi stuff.
Since me being more open at least a couple of them say stuff like 'yeah I can see the appeal, I'd probably get a bj' etc.
While there's definitely some negative blokey banter which fetishises trans women a bit, overall I've not experienced any negativity from my mates, tbh they are more fascinated and ask loads of questions, but then again we are a pretty open group who have gay friends and like to go to occasional gay clubs (they always have the best atmosphere and women) |
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"I think it depends on whether it's tolerance or sex we were talking about.
As stated on here already, I think the vast majority are a lot more tolerant of others these days. So personally I couldnt give a toot, what someone dresses up in, whether male or female. Sex on the otherhand, I have no physical attraction to the male appendage or body, so no matter what clothes, hormones etc are involved, I wouldn't be interested sexually, even if they looked like Kate Moss, it would still be someone with a cock who looked like Kate Moss.
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Sounds like my ideal women! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We just talk about sport and cars tbh. But I know if one of our mates had a trans or tv/ce girlfriend then it wouldn’t be an issue at all.
When we was maybe teens/ early twenties then it would have been ( horrified to say) but slots changed over last 10 years.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Still kinda the same shit tbh. Casual homophobia is still p rampant.
However I’ve had a few friends drop the “well, I would” or “there’s nothing gay about it if I’m not the on receiving” so I guess that’s progress?
Streamers like F1nnster and Ella/Jean Hollywood have popularised transitions/cross dressing/casual Bi’ness with the youth a bit more I think.
My younger brothers seem more comfy saying “gay stuff” than the kids were when I was in school. I suppose the rise of trans porn is a factor too? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It all makes for really interesting reading, thanks for sharing your perspectives.
I think things have improved and I accept that there will always be a portion of society for who I will always be an issue, either outright hostility or just humour and teasing. It just something I live with, but it’s great to see more and more people feeling comfortable to be an active bystander/allie in such instances. Just goes to show we are moving in the right direction.
Thanks all |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
I think it may vary depending upon the location up where i am plenty of gay clubs and will always be a majority who aren't happy but more people who are less judgemental heterosexual people attending club's because they also enjoy the vibes and embrace their surroundings |
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I’ve definitely noticed ‘straight men’ who are married or have girlfriends are definitely a lot more curious or open minded about TV’s these days, maybe it’s because we’re less fussy and more up for meeting than women I dunno haha but I do feel like sexuality is not so much strict categories for most days and more of a spectrum |
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