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"It’s a bit of a generalisation I know, but. I say yes to this next statement and I agree with it. For singles, it’s easier for a woman to find a guy to have sex with if she wanted it, than it is for a man. Prove me be wrong. " Well course it is easier for a women. Women can basically pick who they want. Men can't. | |||
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"It’s a bit of a generalisation I know, but. I say yes to this next statement and I agree with it. For singles, it’s easier for a woman to find a guy to have sex with if she wanted it, than it is for a man. Prove me be wrong. Well course it is easier for a women. Women can basically pick who they want. Men can't. " Okay. But why can they basically pick who they want? I’m intrigued on this one.  | |||
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"It’s a bit of a generalisation I know, but. I say yes to this next statement and I agree with it. For singles, it’s easier for a woman to find a guy to have sex with if she wanted it, than it is for a man. Prove me be wrong. " Well...it's loads of rubbish really...  I still can't find normal fun guy I can play with.
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"It’s a bit of a generalisation I know, but. I say yes to this next statement and I agree with it. For singles, it’s easier for a woman to find a guy to have sex with if she wanted it, than it is for a man. Prove me be wrong. Well course it is easier for a women. Women can basically pick who they want. Men can't. Okay. But why can they basically pick who they want? I’m intrigued on this one. "100 men to 1 women if not more men. Most women have standards and most men don't. Maybe harsh but it's true. | |||
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"It’s a bit of a generalisation I know, but. I say yes to this next statement and I agree with it. For singles, it’s easier for a woman to find a guy to have sex with if she wanted it, than it is for a man. Prove me be wrong. Well course it is easier for a women. Women can basically pick who they want. Men can't. Okay. But why can they basically pick who they want? I’m intrigued on this one. "They can't. The guy has to be attracted and interested in them too. Any guy is more than capable of saying 'no thanks' to any woman that asks. Sure, some men will say yes to anyone but the fact someone is a woman doesn't guarantee they can have any man they want. A | |||
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" 100 men to 1 women if not more men. Most women have standards and most men don't. Maybe harsh but it's true. " Just wow. I hope you're not actively seeking men, because that's a pretty insulting generalisation and if you are looking to meet them then I hate to break it to you, but that means men without standards are happy to meet you. 
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration." Summed up perfectly. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration." That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A | |||
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"It’s a bit of a generalisation I know, but. I say yes to this next statement and I agree with it. For singles, it’s easier for a woman to find a guy to have sex with if she wanted it, than it is for a man. Prove me be wrong. Well course it is easier for a women. Women can basically pick who they want. Men can't. Okay. But why can they basically pick who they want? I’m intrigued on this one. "Definitely not. It really isn't that easy. There's so many factors... Mutual attraction and a connection bring the most important. If I had zero standards/preferences then obviously it would be yes. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A" Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. | |||
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"Yes. Finding someone they WANT to have sex with, however…" | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. " Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag. 
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. " You are a man after my own heart  eloquently put | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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"It’s a bit of a generalisation I know, but. I say yes to this next statement and I agree with it. For singles, it’s easier for a woman to find a guy to have sex with if she wanted it, than it is for a man. Prove me be wrong. " This is like saying the Pope is Catholic in my opinion. It cannot be challenged or refuted. It is just a fact. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
A"If you limit yourself to only the top 20% of anything and then complain that it's hard to find that thing, its whining. It's so hard to find a good car, Ferrari and Lamborghini are so expensive But my friend, what about Volkswagen? Well yes of course but I don't want a Volkswagen, I have standards. Call that whatever colour of flag you want. Standards are fine so long as you can afford them. If you can afford them you will have nothing to whine about. If you find yourself lamenting the fact you can't have what you want then it seems likely that your expectations aren't proportional to your reality. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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If you limit yourself to only the top 20% of anything and then complain that it's hard to find that thing, its whining.
It's so hard to find a good car, Ferrari and Lamborghini are so expensive
But my friend, what about Volkswagen?
Well yes of course but I don't want a Volkswagen, I have standards.
Call that whatever colour of flag you want.
Standards are fine so long as you can afford them. If you can afford them you will have nothing to whine about.
If you find yourself lamenting the fact you can't have what you want then it seems likely that your expectations aren't proportional to your reality. "I couldn't of put it better myself. Bravo. Where have you been the last few days? Like a brother from another mother. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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If you limit yourself to only the top 20% of anything and then complain that it's hard to find that thing, its whining.
It's so hard to find a good car, Ferrari and Lamborghini are so expensive
But my friend, what about Volkswagen?
Well yes of course but I don't want a Volkswagen, I have standards.
Call that whatever colour of flag you want.
Standards are fine so long as you can afford them. If you can afford them you will have nothing to whine about.
If you find yourself lamenting the fact you can't have what you want then it seems likely that your expectations aren't proportional to your reality. "Translation: ‘men have lower standards so they will sleep with anything which by default means it’s all women’s fault for only sleeping with someone they’re attracted to; women can’t complain they can’t find someone of they insist on having attraction too!’ Dude  | |||
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"It's another BS argument men use to whine about on here. Sure, women could easily find someone here and fuck them, way more easily than a man could, but as a lot of them have said, the quality would likely be terrible. Due to the fact that women generally have higher standards than men (a lot of them here seem willing to fuck anyone, given the chance), and there are tons more men here than women." High standards are something more people should have IMO. Why go through the bother of finding a suitable partner, arranging something and then being let down when you missed those big red flags..... Knowing yourself, what your looking for, and the kind of people you attract all make a difference here. I think neither male or female have an easier time finding a compatible, high quality partner | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
A"There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women. Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras? | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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If you limit yourself to only the top 20% of anything and then complain that it's hard to find that thing, its whining.
It's so hard to find a good car, Ferrari and Lamborghini are so expensive
But my friend, what about Volkswagen?
Well yes of course but I don't want a Volkswagen, I have standards.
Call that whatever colour of flag you want.
Standards are fine so long as you can afford them. If you can afford them you will have nothing to whine about.
If you find yourself lamenting the fact you can't have what you want then it seems likely that your expectations aren't proportional to your reality.
Translation: ‘men have lower standards so they will sleep with anything which by default means it’s all women’s fault for only sleeping with someone they’re attracted to; women can’t complain they can’t find someone of they insist on having attraction too!’
Dude "You didn't comprehend what he was saying then if you translated it in that way. I've seen quite a few women known on here as a stepping stone kind of meet. A new guy will meet them, get a good review then go off and meet the women he really desires, he was probably still attracted to them though. Some women might think oh I can he meet people like him so I won't meet anyone else till they are similar but they weren't aware of the situation and the reason why they met that person. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?"Whats wrong with a nissan micra? New one looks alright. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?
Whats wrong with a nissan micra? New one looks alright."I’m sure it’s perfectly adequate but would you choose it over a Ferrari? | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?"As always, accurate descriptions being described as misogyny. Women who revel in being able to take advantage of their position - Fine. The men who can do that similarly revel. Women who lament the fact that their expectations write checks that their ability can't cash - Well that's just stupid. Ultimately though, whilst the primarily truth of all of this isnt a matter of "fault", or even good or bad, it simply "is" one could easily make an argument that men are at fault for this. Men sleeping with anything is ultimately what gets us into this mess. If men employed women's levels of standards for themselves then things would level out in a really interesting way. But, biological reality is, they won't. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?
Whats wrong with a nissan micra? New one looks alright.
I’m sure it’s perfectly adequate but would you choose it over a Ferrari?"Is the Ferrari on finance though? | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?"Unless you like the Nissan of course
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?
Whats wrong with a nissan micra? New one looks alright.
I’m sure it’s perfectly adequate but would you choose it over a Ferrari?"No I'd take the ferrari and sell it then get the Nissan. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?
As always, accurate descriptions being described as misogyny.
Women who revel in being able to take advantage of their position - Fine. The men who can do that similarly revel.
Women who lament the fact that their expectations write checks that their ability can't cash - Well that's just stupid.
Ultimately though, whilst the primarily truth of all of this isnt a matter of "fault", or even good or bad, it simply "is" one could easily make an argument that men are at fault for this.
Men sleeping with anything is ultimately what gets us into this mess. If men employed women's levels of standards for themselves then things would level out in a really interesting way.
But, biological reality is, they won't. "It does to a degree, it's easier to meet women off dating sites than a site like this where the ratios are heavily distorted. The balance is more similar on them. Some guys have to start somewhere on here to try get established. It is just lost on some women the reality of the situation that they are in. As you say 'Privelege is invisible to those who have it' Very good quote. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?
Whats wrong with a nissan micra? New one looks alright.
I’m sure it’s perfectly adequate but would you choose it over a Ferrari?
No I'd take the ferrari and sell it then get the Nissan."The thing is women don’t need to keep the Ferrari, they can get themselves a Porsche, or a Maserati, or a Lamborghini… They don’t need to settle, so why should they? | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?
Whats wrong with a nissan micra? New one looks alright.
I’m sure it’s perfectly adequate but would you choose it over a Ferrari?
No I'd take the ferrari and sell it then get the Nissan.
The thing is women don’t need to keep the Ferrari, they can get themselves a Porsche, or a Maserati, or a Lamborghini…
They don’t need to settle, so why should they?"You hear about crazy cat lady's all the time. Maybe they were all sports car fans. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?
Whats wrong with a nissan micra? New one looks alright.
I’m sure it’s perfectly adequate but would you choose it over a Ferrari?
No I'd take the ferrari and sell it then get the Nissan.
The thing is women don’t need to keep the Ferrari, they can get themselves a Porsche, or a Maserati, or a Lamborghini…
They don’t need to settle, so why should they?"Sorry I thought we were talking about cars | |||
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"It’s a bit of a generalisation I know, but. I say yes to this next statement and I agree with it. For singles, it’s easier for a woman to find a guy to have sex with if she wanted it, than it is for a man. Prove me be wrong. Well course it is easier for a women. Women can basically pick who they want. Men can't. " I can only pick from the men who want me. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?
Whats wrong with a nissan micra? New one looks alright.
I’m sure it’s perfectly adequate but would you choose it over a Ferrari?
No I'd take the ferrari and sell it then get the Nissan.
The thing is women don’t need to keep the Ferrari, they can get themselves a Porsche, or a Maserati, or a Lamborghini…
They don’t need to settle, so why should they?"I don't think anyone is saying that if she can really afford to run a Ferrari she shouldnt do so. I think what I'm saying is that if you are riding the bus because you'd rather not drive a Mercedes then more fool you. I'm also saying that when men and women mutually complain that they find it hard to get sex, they aren't complaining about the same thing. Women are complaining that they can easily afford a Lexus but it's not good enough for them so they will get the bus till a Ferrari comes along. Her choice entirely, but foolish unless she really can get the Ferrari. Men are complaining they can't afford the Ford Focus and even they can't bring themselves to drive the Reliant Robin, though admittedly, they could. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A Not really. I don't expect anyone to have sex with anyone else. It's just an objective observation. I'm not saying anyone should change their sexual behaviour necessarily. But what I would say on the subject is this, a phrase oft quoted on behalf of women. Privilege is invisible to those who have it. Nothing can be done so far as I can see about the scales being so heavily weighted in favour of women. It is a fact of our biology. Until men are prepared to behave as women do, it will remain forever so. But we could at least be honest about it couldn't we? Woman genuinely believe that they struggle to get sex. But to a man, your whining does very much sound like someone raised on Michelin star dining bemoaning that they might starve to death because the 100 restaurants in their immediate vicinity are too pedestrian. Wow. That last paragraph is a hell of a red flag.
I'm a man. I don't see women saying it's hard to get sex with someone they want to as them whining. I also don't think your analogy of a Michelin star restaurant is any different to suggesting they should stop complaining because there are plenty of men around them, despite being men they have no interest in.
The forums really are throwing some major anti- women sentiments and viewpoints out of late. Has someone slipped something in the water?
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There’s a lot of misogyny on these forums, a lot of angry men who can’t get what they want and instead of looking at themselves seem to put the blame on women.
Yes women on here can be picky, if the men could be then they would too. If you can have a Ferrari or a Porsche then why bother with all the Nissan Micras?
Whats wrong with a nissan micra? New one looks alright.
I’m sure it’s perfectly adequate but would you choose it over a Ferrari?
No I'd take the ferrari and sell it then get the Nissan.
The thing is women don’t need to keep the Ferrari, they can get themselves a Porsche, or a Maserati, or a Lamborghini…
They don’t need to settle, so why should they?
I don't think anyone is saying that if she can really afford to run a Ferrari she shouldnt do so.
I think what I'm saying is that if you are riding the bus because you'd rather not drive a Mercedes then more fool you.
I'm also saying that when men and women mutually complain that they find it hard to get sex, they aren't complaining about the same thing.
Women are complaining that they can easily afford a Lexus but it's not good enough for them so they will get the bus till a Ferrari comes along. Her choice entirely, but foolish unless she really can get the Ferrari.
Men are complaining they can't afford the Ford Focus and even they can't bring themselves to drive the Reliant Robin, though admittedly, they could. "Some of them get track days to test drive the Ferrari. But they won't ever own the Ferrari | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. " *Golf clap* | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. " I think you just hit the nail on the head. I will caveat it and say some men are very realistic with their expectations and the amount of interest men get. That being said, it annoys me no end when men get rude when I don't reply. Or when I do reply with a simple no thank you, and they make it their mission to convince me. If you can't accept a no, I ain't trusting you. Simples | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. " Mic drop! Absolutely nailed it! | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. " Some good points in that but the forum might be pretty dull then and pointless. If you ask a question do you want it sugarcoated? Or an honest answer? My nan tells me I'm so handsome and clever but others might disagree with her lovely, sentiment. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A" I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. " ^^^He get's it. Whoop, whoop! | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. Some good points in that but the forum might be pretty dull then and pointless. If you ask a question do you want it sugarcoated? Or an honest answer? My nan tells me I'm so handsome and clever but others might disagree with her lovely, sentiment. " I never suggested anything be sugar coated, and honest answers are always better. They tell us about the person answering the question and the types of beliefs / opinions that they hold. What I am saying is that some of the views expressed in here and in other threads are, in my opinion, backward, misogynistic, entitled and toxic. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. " And if you look at UK stats that's true, but we are on a site dedicated to meeting for sex for the most part. It has a massive skew in the number of men to women. I don't know the numbers, but I'd guess it's at least 50 men to 1 woman on the straight side of things. That changes your reply massively when you look at it in the current context | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. " It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. And if you look at UK stats that's true, but we are on a site dedicated to meeting for sex for the most part. It has a massive skew in the number of men to women. I don't know the numbers, but I'd guess it's at least 50 men to 1 woman on the straight side of things. That changes your reply massively when you look at it in the current context" That's perhaps the difference between "on Fab" and people who are speaking in broad terms, suggesting their theories apply to the world at large. Which they don't. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. " Perhaps not the best analogy. Are you speaking about on this site specifically, or are you commenting about life in general? I accept that the situation on here is not reflective of the "real world" in many ways, including the gender disparity here. However, that disparity is not the fault of women. Yet, comments on here drip with vitriol, like women are deliberately withholding sex from men, are making life difficult for men, should be criticised for having what many are calling standards etc. Which a) they are not and b) is incredibly misogynistic a way of thinking. Women don't owe anyone anything. | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. Some good points in that but the forum might be pretty dull then and pointless. If you ask a question do you want it sugarcoated? Or an honest answer? My nan tells me I'm so handsome and clever but others might disagree with her lovely, sentiment. I never suggested anything be sugar coated, and honest answers are always better. They tell us about the person answering the question and the types of beliefs / opinions that they hold. What I am saying is that some of the views expressed in here and in other threads are, in my opinion, backward, misogynistic, entitled and toxic." Can I ask exactly what views were misogynistic? I see that word thrown around a lot but I dont think I've ever seen an example of it on here. Lots of different viewpoints but no misogyny | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. Some good points in that but the forum might be pretty dull then and pointless. If you ask a question do you want it sugarcoated? Or an honest answer? My nan tells me I'm so handsome and clever but others might disagree with her lovely, sentiment. I never suggested anything be sugar coated, and honest answers are always better. They tell us about the person answering the question and the types of beliefs / opinions that they hold. What I am saying is that some of the views expressed in here and in other threads are, in my opinion, backward, misogynistic, entitled and toxic. Can I ask exactly what views were misogynistic? I see that word thrown around a lot but I dont think I've ever seen an example of it on here. Lots of different viewpoints but no misogyny " The attitude that women somehow withhold sex, or attitudes that suggest women "owe" men sex or sexual favours, are misogynistic. These views appear to exist on this thread and this site more widely. The reason we don't reply to anyone unless we actually want to chat, is because of these attitudes. The number of times we've had really unpleasant responses to a "thanks, but no thanks" reply, mean we no longer wish to open ourselves up to it. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. Perhaps not the best analogy. Are you speaking about on this site specifically, or are you commenting about life in general? I accept that the situation on here is not reflective of the "real world" in many ways, including the gender disparity here. However, that disparity is not the fault of women. Yet, comments on here drip with vitriol, like women are deliberately withholding sex from men, are making life difficult for men, should be criticised for having what many are calling standards etc. Which a) they are not and b) is incredibly misogynistic a way of thinking. Women don't owe anyone anything. " I'm speaking in general, on this site and everywhere. Probably nearly every country in the world this is the case. Women are always gatekeepers of sex but some men can be the gatekeepers of relationships. | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. Some good points in that but the forum might be pretty dull then and pointless. If you ask a question do you want it sugarcoated? Or an honest answer? My nan tells me I'm so handsome and clever but others might disagree with her lovely, sentiment. I never suggested anything be sugar coated, and honest answers are always better. They tell us about the person answering the question and the types of beliefs / opinions that they hold. What I am saying is that some of the views expressed in here and in other threads are, in my opinion, backward, misogynistic, entitled and toxic. Can I ask exactly what views were misogynistic? I see that word thrown around a lot but I dont think I've ever seen an example of it on here. Lots of different viewpoints but no misogyny " If you disagree with a woman you are misogynistic on here | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. Some good points in that but the forum might be pretty dull then and pointless. If you ask a question do you want it sugarcoated? Or an honest answer? My nan tells me I'm so handsome and clever but others might disagree with her lovely, sentiment. I never suggested anything be sugar coated, and honest answers are always better. They tell us about the person answering the question and the types of beliefs / opinions that they hold. What I am saying is that some of the views expressed in here and in other threads are, in my opinion, backward, misogynistic, entitled and toxic. Can I ask exactly what views were misogynistic? I see that word thrown around a lot but I dont think I've ever seen an example of it on here. Lots of different viewpoints but no misogyny " For one thing the implicit criticism of women having standards - that women only perceive it as difficult to meet people because they have high standards. The idea that this was some kind of female privilege, and both the restaurant and car analogies all came across as misogynistic to me. Someone saying they’ll starve because they can’t find a Michelin-star restaurant amongst a hundred local eateries is patently ridiculous. A person - man or woman - who says it’s hard to get meets because they struggle to find people to whom they are attracted is not the same thing in any way | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. Some good points in that but the forum might be pretty dull then and pointless. If you ask a question do you want it sugarcoated? Or an honest answer? My nan tells me I'm so handsome and clever but others might disagree with her lovely, sentiment. I never suggested anything be sugar coated, and honest answers are always better. They tell us about the person answering the question and the types of beliefs / opinions that they hold. What I am saying is that some of the views expressed in here and in other threads are, in my opinion, backward, misogynistic, entitled and toxic. Can I ask exactly what views were misogynistic? I see that word thrown around a lot but I dont think I've ever seen an example of it on here. Lots of different viewpoints but no misogyny The attitude that women somehow withhold sex, or attitudes that suggest women "owe" men sex or sexual favours, are misogynistic. These views appear to exist on this thread and this site more widely. The reason we don't reply to anyone unless we actually want to chat, is because of these attitudes. The number of times we've had really unpleasant responses to a "thanks, but no thanks" reply, mean we no longer wish to open ourselves up to it. " Exactly this, and worded a lot more succinctly and eloquently that I could have done! | |||
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"Honestly stunned by some of the comments on here. I don’t even know where to start, other than women can find it hard to meet people. Is it because they have high standards? It might be, but having standards is not a bad thing and it doesn’t make them ‘privileged’ because they could get more sex if they lowered them. Perhaps if more of the men on here behaved less like entitled pricks then they would get more sex? Or stopped blaming women’s standards for their own lack of meets and took a long hard look in the mirror? Or maybe just stopped treating women like penis receptacles and started treating them as human fucking beings. It’s a numbers game and the numbers are stacked against single men. Complaining that women have standards or spouting some Andrew Tate style nonsense about how women have it so much easier than men isn’t going to make that any better. Behave like a civilised human being, treat people as civilised human beings, socialise with them, go to clubs and manage your own expectations - you’ll get so much more out of it that way. Some good points in that but the forum might be pretty dull then and pointless. If you ask a question do you want it sugarcoated? Or an honest answer? My nan tells me I'm so handsome and clever but others might disagree with her lovely, sentiment. I never suggested anything be sugar coated, and honest answers are always better. They tell us about the person answering the question and the types of beliefs / opinions that they hold. What I am saying is that some of the views expressed in here and in other threads are, in my opinion, backward, misogynistic, entitled and toxic. Can I ask exactly what views were misogynistic? I see that word thrown around a lot but I dont think I've ever seen an example of it on here. Lots of different viewpoints but no misogyny For one thing the implicit criticism of women having standards - that women only perceive it as difficult to meet people because they have high standards. The idea that this was some kind of female privilege, and both the restaurant and car analogies all came across as misogynistic to me. Someone saying they’ll starve because they can’t find a Michelin-star restaurant amongst a hundred local eateries is patently ridiculous. A person - man or woman - who says it’s hard to get meets because they struggle to find people to whom they are attracted is not the same thing in any way" You may disagree but your very first post in this thread had the full white Knight repertoire. That immediately turned me off. Mrs x | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. Perhaps not the best analogy. Are you speaking about on this site specifically, or are you commenting about life in general? I accept that the situation on here is not reflective of the "real world" in many ways, including the gender disparity here. However, that disparity is not the fault of women. Yet, comments on here drip with vitriol, like women are deliberately withholding sex from men, are making life difficult for men, should be criticised for having what many are calling standards etc. Which a) they are not and b) is incredibly misogynistic a way of thinking. Women don't owe anyone anything. I'm speaking in general, on this site and everywhere. Probably nearly every country in the world this is the case. Women are always gatekeepers of sex but some men can be the gatekeepers of relationships. " If you are talking about the world at large, then you are talking piffle. There is pretty much a 50/50 gender split in population of the UK. It is mathematically impossible for women to encounter sex more easily than men, UNLESS the women across the general population are all sharing a handful of blokes? The simple maths is 1 woman, 1 man - this is how the population here is constructed and also happens to be the most common coupling combo for sex. In a small number of countries in the world, there is a big gender disparity. I mentioned China. In China, unless about 5 or 6 women share 1 man, it is mathematically impossible for every adult woman to couple with an adult man, due to the abortion and abandonment of female foetuses and babies. What is results in is greater sexual violence against women in such countries. It's nothing to do with choice or gatekeeping or women choosing to be wilfully celibate or anything else. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. Perhaps not the best analogy. Are you speaking about on this site specifically, or are you commenting about life in general? I accept that the situation on here is not reflective of the "real world" in many ways, including the gender disparity here. However, that disparity is not the fault of women. Yet, comments on here drip with vitriol, like women are deliberately withholding sex from men, are making life difficult for men, should be criticised for having what many are calling standards etc. Which a) they are not and b) is incredibly misogynistic a way of thinking. Women don't owe anyone anything. I'm speaking in general, on this site and everywhere. Probably nearly every country in the world this is the case. Women are always gatekeepers of sex but some men can be the gatekeepers of relationships. " Not the first time you've stated your 'gatekeeper'theory and not the first time you're wrong. Women aren't 'always' anything. You have a very low opinion of them for some reason. Clearly evident from this and every other thread this week. Thankfully the majority of men on this site and the wider world don't see women the same way. A | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. Perhaps not the best analogy. Are you speaking about on this site specifically, or are you commenting about life in general? I accept that the situation on here is not reflective of the "real world" in many ways, including the gender disparity here. However, that disparity is not the fault of women. Yet, comments on here drip with vitriol, like women are deliberately withholding sex from men, are making life difficult for men, should be criticised for having what many are calling standards etc. Which a) they are not and b) is incredibly misogynistic a way of thinking. Women don't owe anyone anything. I'm speaking in general, on this site and everywhere. Probably nearly every country in the world this is the case. Women are always gatekeepers of sex but some men can be the gatekeepers of relationships. If you are talking about the world at large, then you are talking piffle. There is pretty much a 50/50 gender split in population of the UK. It is mathematically impossible for women to encounter sex more easily than men, UNLESS the women across the general population are all sharing a handful of blokes? " Bingo! Lots of men go without, because a lot of women are only meeting the 5-10 % Of men and an even smaller percentage on here. That's why the oldest profession in the world is still relevant. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. Perhaps not the best analogy. Are you speaking about on this site specifically, or are you commenting about life in general? I accept that the situation on here is not reflective of the "real world" in many ways, including the gender disparity here. However, that disparity is not the fault of women. Yet, comments on here drip with vitriol, like women are deliberately withholding sex from men, are making life difficult for men, should be criticised for having what many are calling standards etc. Which a) they are not and b) is incredibly misogynistic a way of thinking. Women don't owe anyone anything. I'm speaking in general, on this site and everywhere. Probably nearly every country in the world this is the case. Women are always gatekeepers of sex but some men can be the gatekeepers of relationships. Not the first time you've stated your 'gatekeeper'theory and not the first time you're wrong. Women aren't 'always' anything. You have a very low opinion of them for some reason. Clearly evident from this and every other thread this week. Thankfully the majority of men on this site and the wider world don't see women the same way. A" I did tell you yesterday, I wasn't going to engage with you anymore. You have constantly replied to me when I have ignored you numerous times. You are 1 of these men who can't take no for an answer | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. Perhaps not the best analogy. Are you speaking about on this site specifically, or are you commenting about life in general? I accept that the situation on here is not reflective of the "real world" in many ways, including the gender disparity here. However, that disparity is not the fault of women. Yet, comments on here drip with vitriol, like women are deliberately withholding sex from men, are making life difficult for men, should be criticised for having what many are calling standards etc. Which a) they are not and b) is incredibly misogynistic a way of thinking. Women don't owe anyone anything. I'm speaking in general, on this site and everywhere. Probably nearly every country in the world this is the case. Women are always gatekeepers of sex but some men can be the gatekeepers of relationships. " My husband refused to have sex with me, regardless of what I said or did. My long term partner decides when we have sex; not me. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. Perhaps not the best analogy. Are you speaking about on this site specifically, or are you commenting about life in general? I accept that the situation on here is not reflective of the "real world" in many ways, including the gender disparity here. However, that disparity is not the fault of women. Yet, comments on here drip with vitriol, like women are deliberately withholding sex from men, are making life difficult for men, should be criticised for having what many are calling standards etc. Which a) they are not and b) is incredibly misogynistic a way of thinking. Women don't owe anyone anything. I'm speaking in general, on this site and everywhere. Probably nearly every country in the world this is the case. Women are always gatekeepers of sex but some men can be the gatekeepers of relationships. If you are talking about the world at large, then you are talking piffle. There is pretty much a 50/50 gender split in population of the UK. It is mathematically impossible for women to encounter sex more easily than men, UNLESS the women across the general population are all sharing a handful of blokes? Bingo! Lots of men go without, because a lot of women are only meeting the 5-10 % Of men and an even smaller percentage on here. That's why the oldest profession in the world is still relevant. " Let me get this straight? The adult female population of the UK at large, are only interacting sexually with 5-10% of the adult male population? Because that's what you are suggesting. Utter codswallop, unless bigamy is more common than I thought 
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. Perhaps not the best analogy. Are you speaking about on this site specifically, or are you commenting about life in general? I accept that the situation on here is not reflective of the "real world" in many ways, including the gender disparity here. However, that disparity is not the fault of women. Yet, comments on here drip with vitriol, like women are deliberately withholding sex from men, are making life difficult for men, should be criticised for having what many are calling standards etc. Which a) they are not and b) is incredibly misogynistic a way of thinking. Women don't owe anyone anything. I'm speaking in general, on this site and everywhere. Probably nearly every country in the world this is the case. Women are always gatekeepers of sex but some men can be the gatekeepers of relationships. My husband refused to have sex with me, regardless of what I said or did. My long term partner decides when we have sex; not me. " That is a different issue, and you allow your long term partner to do so. | |||
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"It’s a bit of a generalisation I know, but. I say yes to this next statement and I agree with it. For singles, it’s easier for a woman to find a guy to have sex with if she wanted it, than it is for a man. Prove me be wrong. Well course it is easier for a women. Women can basically pick who they want. Men can't. " I once had a female sergeant call me a whore and I thanked her, I told her "look at it this way you all got what we all want so you can just pick and choose, we've just got to take it where we can get it" she just walked away. | |||
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. Perhaps not the best analogy. Are you speaking about on this site specifically, or are you commenting about life in general? I accept that the situation on here is not reflective of the "real world" in many ways, including the gender disparity here. However, that disparity is not the fault of women. Yet, comments on here drip with vitriol, like women are deliberately withholding sex from men, are making life difficult for men, should be criticised for having what many are calling standards etc. Which a) they are not and b) is incredibly misogynistic a way of thinking. Women don't owe anyone anything. I'm speaking in general, on this site and everywhere. Probably nearly every country in the world this is the case. Women are always gatekeepers of sex but some men can be the gatekeepers of relationships. If you are talking about the world at large, then you are talking piffle. There is pretty much a 50/50 gender split in population of the UK. It is mathematically impossible for women to encounter sex more easily than men, UNLESS the women across the general population are all sharing a handful of blokes? Bingo! Lots of men go without, because a lot of women are only meeting the 5-10 % Of men and an even smaller percentage on here. That's why the oldest profession in the world is still relevant. Let me get this straight? The adult female population of the UK at large, are only interacting sexually with 5-10% of the adult male population? Because that's what you are suggesting. Utter codswallop, unless bigamy is more common than I thought
Prøstitutes are visited by men who are getting "it" at home, as well as those who are celibate. Just look at the lads, lads, lads attitude when attached men in stag dos go to places like Amsterdam. If you think every guy going to a brothel cannot get sex anywhere else, then you are wrong. "Given those stats quoted I'm amazed the population isn't in serious decline in the UK. I mean if women are only meeting 5-10% of men for sex then there'll be a fuckload of inbreeding going on soon. That'll really affect the gene pool and throw up some serious mental illnesses. Although having read some posts over the last few days maybe it's happening already?
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"Yes, they can find sex more easily. But no, they don't perceive that they can find sex more easily. Think of it this way, as man you know that there is a bottom end threshold of women (in terms of your attraction to them) you probably could easily have sex with. But you don't. And you don't really think about them when you consider your options. Your "ability to get sex" is judged by your range of acceptable sexual prospects. It's the same for women, except that on average they rate about 80% of men as below that threshold. According to the studies anyway. So they perceive that they can't easily get sex. And they genuinely feel it to be the case. But objectively the situation is that they don't find it easy to have sex with the top 20% of men that fall into their consideration. That argument only carries weight if you expect someone - in this case women - to have sex with someone they don't want to. If you don't......it's no easier for them than men. A I made this point on a thread earlier. 1 woman having heterosexual sex requires 1 man (min). Assuming that women aren't all having massive gangbangs with 8 blokes, then simple mathematics tells you women and men acquire sex in roughly equal measures (because in the UK, there's approx a 50/50 split in the numbers of men and women). In places like China, where there is a serious disparity in the numbers of each gender, due to specific issues in that country, it's a bit of a different story, perhaps. Although, it still requires 1 man, 1 woman, for regular ol' sex. It's the requiring and acquiring part that you are missing. That's the bit you are forgetting. If the USA wanted to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction they can do so quickly. If Somalia wanted to, I think it would take an awful long time. Perhaps not the best analogy. Are you speaking about on this site specifically, or are you commenting about life in general? I accept that the situation on here is not reflective of the "real world" in many ways, including the gender disparity here. However, that disparity is not the fault of women. Yet, comments on here drip with vitriol, like women are deliberately withholding sex from men, are making life difficult for men, should be criticised for having what many are calling standards etc. Which a) they are not and b) is incredibly misogynistic a way of thinking. Women don't owe anyone anything. I'm speaking in general, on this site and everywhere. Probably nearly every country in the world this is the case. Women are always gatekeepers of sex but some men can be the gatekeepers of relationships. If you are talking about the world at large, then you are talking piffle. There is pretty much a 50/50 gender split in population of the UK. It is mathematically impossible for women to encounter sex more easily than men, UNLESS the women across the general population are all sharing a handful of blokes? Bingo! Lots of men go without, because a lot of women are only meeting the 5-10 % Of men and an even smaller percentage on here. That's why the oldest profession in the world is still relevant. Let me get this straight? The adult female population of the UK at large, are only interacting sexually with 5-10% of the adult male population? Because that's what you are suggesting. Utter codswallop, unless bigamy is more common than I thought
Prøstitutes are visited by men who are getting "it" at home, as well as those who are celibate. Just look at the lads, lads, lads attitude when attached men in stag dos go to places like Amsterdam. If you think every guy going to a brothel cannot get sex anywhere else, then you are wrong. "You've got lots of women on this thread arguing how hard it is and they are on a sex site full to the brim of men. I think that backs up exactly what I'm saying. | |||
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" You've got lots of women on this thread arguing how hard it is and they are on a sex site full to the brim of men. I think that backs up exactly what I'm saying. " I've said that due to the gender disparity on Fab, it will be the case that there's fewer opportunities for men. Fab is the equivalent of China or India. Buy you've said that your theories hold true for the population at large. If that's true, you're suggesting that the entire female population of the UK is only having sexual contact with 5-10% of the male population. Which is patently nonsense. Women on Fab are perfectly entitled to agree to have sex with whomever they wish. They do not have to choose just anyone, simply because they are there and thrusting their penis in their faces. If you could see the crude, grim and utterly off-putting messages (plus unsolicited dick pic!) that many men send, you'd understand why some women "struggle" to find someone to meet here on Fab. But are we talking about Fab specifically, or life in general? Because Fab is nothing like life in general. | |||
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" You've got lots of women on this thread arguing how hard it is and they are on a sex site full to the brim of men. I think that backs up exactly what I'm saying. I've said that due to the gender disparity on Fab, it will be the case that there's fewer opportunities for men. Fab is the equivalent of China or India. Buy you've said that your theories hold true for the population at large. If that's true, you're suggesting that the entire female population of the UK is only having sexual contact with 5-10% of the male population. Which is patently nonsense. Women on Fab are perfectly entitled to agree to have sex with whomever they wish. They do not have to choose just anyone, simply because they are there and thrusting their penis in their faces. If you could see the crude, grim and utterly off-putting messages (plus unsolicited dick pic!) that many men send, you'd understand why some women "struggle" to find someone to meet here on Fab. But are we talking about Fab specifically, or life in general? Because Fab is nothing like life in general. " I don't know the figures exactly, there have probably been scientific studies on this too. But i promise you in general it's a only small percentage of men that women sleep with. Nobody is saying they have to sleep with anyone. Nobody has to do anything they don't want to do. If you do the same thing over and over and expect different results though, some people might say that is the definition of insanity. | |||
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"We get your thesis, Penny could throw a 1 on 1 meet up on here and have 300 messages from guys ready to get down to business, 5 or 10 of them might even turn up!. If I did it I could leave the request up for a year and not get a nibble. Fab skews reality though. When out and about we are both flirts and evenly get chatted up and could get a shag." It’s not fab it’s just the way it is biologically. | |||
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"Anyone willing to settle for the bare minimum can easily get laid." No incorrect, you haven't been paying attention. A man unless they were in the top percentile might still struggle. This only applies to women. Explain why the oldest profession in the world is still relevant and it is a predominantly female job if this were the case? | |||
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"You've got lots of women on this thread arguing how hard it is and they are on a sex site full to the brim of men. I think that backs up exactly what I'm saying. " Nah. That doesn't back up anything. What it does is highlights the lack of men they're attracted to and interested in. Almost as if Fab somehow attracts some men that they wouldn't dream of having sex with if they were the last two people on earth. Maybe Fab is full to the brim of men that lack social skills, respect for women, the ability to view them as equals rather than just a hole for them to stick their cock in and people put on this earth to service their needs? Maybe those women would rather have a wank thank engage with her those men? Now of course we all know that the majority of men don't fall into that category but the disparity in ratios is there because of something. Why do you think some men flock to Fab and other similar sex sites? Rather than seek sex out in the real world? You've spent the whole thread saying it's harder for men to find sex so maybe rather than blaming women or claiming that its all their fault because they are the 'gatekeepers' how about placing some of the responsibility for a lack of sex on those men going without? Did you ever consider for one second that the simple fact they're going without is because women find their neanderthal views and attitudes abhorrent? That the obsession some have with virtual flashing of their cocks isn't attractive in the slightest? That being followed around in swingers clubs and letched over isn't going to open that gateway to sex? Or is it inconceivable to you that it would be far, far easier for some men to find sex on Fab if they simply stopped acting in certain ways and started making themselves more appealing to the women they're lookingbfor sex from? Plenty of men find it easy to find sex on fab, in clubs, and yes, in the real world. Any man could potentially do the same. Well, almost any man. Some seem to do their utmost to deter female attention, attract interest and to portray themselves in a manner that would have someone, anyone, just a single solitary woman be the teeniest bit interested in ever getting naked with them. Some people just can't help themselves. A | |||
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" Some of them get track days to test drive the Ferrari. But they won't ever own the Ferrari " They don’t need to own it, they can just have any amount of track days with any amount of high end cars they want, while most men catch the bus or walk. One of the great things about fab is watching how bitter some men get when the advantages of everyday life are reversed and women have the upper hand. | |||
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"You've got lots of women on this thread arguing how hard it is and they are on a sex site full to the brim of men. I think that backs up exactly what I'm saying. Nah. That doesn't back up anything. What it does is highlights the lack of men they're attracted to and interested in. Almost as if Fab somehow attracts some men that they wouldn't dream of having sex with if they were the last two people on earth. Maybe Fab is full to the brim of men that lack social skills, respect for women, the ability to view them as equals rather than just a hole for them to stick their cock in and people put on this earth to service their needs? Maybe those women would rather have a wank thank engage with her those men? Now of course we all know that the majority of men don't fall into that category but the disparity in ratios is there because of something. Why do you think some men flock to Fab and other similar sex sites? Rather than seek sex out in the real world? You've spent the whole thread saying it's harder for men to find sex so maybe rather than blaming women or claiming that its all their fault because they are the 'gatekeepers' how about placing some of the responsibility for a lack of sex on those men going without? Did you ever consider for one second that the simple fact they're going without is because women find their neanderthal views and attitudes abhorrent? That the obsession some have with virtual flashing of their cocks isn't attractive in the slightest? That being followed around in swingers clubs and letched over isn't going to open that gateway to sex? Or is it inconceivable to you that it would be far, far easier for some men to find sex on Fab if they simply stopped acting in certain ways and started making themselves more appealing to the women they're lookingbfor sex from? Plenty of men find it easy to find sex on fab, in clubs, and yes, in the real world. Any man could potentially do the same. Well, almost any man. Some seem to do their utmost to deter female attention, attract interest and to portray themselves in a manner that would have someone, anyone, just a single solitary woman be the teeniest bit interested in ever getting naked with them. Some people just can't help themselves. A" Seems quite misandrist those views
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"You've got lots of women on this thread arguing how hard it is and they are on a sex site full to the brim of men. I think that backs up exactly what I'm saying. Nah. That doesn't back up anything. What it does is highlights the lack of men they're attracted to and interested in. Almost as if Fab somehow attracts some men that they wouldn't dream of having sex with if they were the last two people on earth. Maybe Fab is full to the brim of men that lack social skills, respect for women, the ability to view them as equals rather than just a hole for them to stick their cock in and people put on this earth to service their needs? Maybe those women would rather have a wank thank engage with her those men? Now of course we all know that the majority of men don't fall into that category but the disparity in ratios is there because of something. Why do you think some men flock to Fab and other similar sex sites? Rather than seek sex out in the real world? You've spent the whole thread saying it's harder for men to find sex so maybe rather than blaming women or claiming that its all their fault because they are the 'gatekeepers' how about placing some of the responsibility for a lack of sex on those men going without? Did you ever consider for one second that the simple fact they're going without is because women find their neanderthal views and attitudes abhorrent? That the obsession some have with virtual flashing of their cocks isn't attractive in the slightest? That being followed around in swingers clubs and letched over isn't going to open that gateway to sex? Or is it inconceivable to you that it would be far, far easier for some men to find sex on Fab if they simply stopped acting in certain ways and started making themselves more appealing to the women they're lookingbfor sex from? Plenty of men find it easy to find sex on fab, in clubs, and yes, in the real world. Any man could potentially do the same. Well, almost any man. Some seem to do their utmost to deter female attention, attract interest and to portray themselves in a manner that would have someone, anyone, just a single solitary woman be the teeniest bit interested in ever getting naked with them. Some people just can't help themselves. A Seems quite misandrist those views
"If I was claiming all men were like that? Yes. It would be. But I'm not. I don't class or view all people the same because they share a gender. For example I find it perfectly feasible, logical and reasonable behaviour to view women I'm attracted to that aren't attracted to me as friends, rather than someone torturing me because they have turned me down and as someone I need to cut ties with. I find it completely acceptable for my wife to have male friends, some of whom are attracted to her. I wouldn't dream of telling her she couldn't. What right would I have to do so? I don't view men in a negative way at all. Just some of them. Because they give me just cause and valid reasons to do so. Hope that clears things up for you. Have a fab day!  
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"You've got lots of women on this thread arguing how hard it is and they are on a sex site full to the brim of men. I think that backs up exactly what I'm saying. Nah. That doesn't back up anything. What it does is highlights the lack of men they're attracted to and interested in. Almost as if Fab somehow attracts some men that they wouldn't dream of having sex with if they were the last two people on earth. Maybe Fab is full to the brim of men that lack social skills, respect for women, the ability to view them as equals rather than just a hole for them to stick their cock in and people put on this earth to service their needs? Maybe those women would rather have a wank thank engage with her those men? Now of course we all know that the majority of men don't fall into that category but the disparity in ratios is there because of something. Why do you think some men flock to Fab and other similar sex sites? Rather than seek sex out in the real world? You've spent the whole thread saying it's harder for men to find sex so maybe rather than blaming women or claiming that its all their fault because they are the 'gatekeepers' how about placing some of the responsibility for a lack of sex on those men going without? Did you ever consider for one second that the simple fact they're going without is because women find their neanderthal views and attitudes abhorrent? That the obsession some have with virtual flashing of their cocks isn't attractive in the slightest? That being followed around in swingers clubs and letched over isn't going to open that gateway to sex? Or is it inconceivable to you that it would be far, far easier for some men to find sex on Fab if they simply stopped acting in certain ways and started making themselves more appealing to the women they're lookingbfor sex from? Plenty of men find it easy to find sex on fab, in clubs, and yes, in the real world. Any man could potentially do the same. Well, almost any man. Some seem to do their utmost to deter female attention, attract interest and to portray themselves in a manner that would have someone, anyone, just a single solitary woman be the teeniest bit interested in ever getting naked with them. Some people just can't help themselves. A Seems quite misandrist those views
If I was claiming all men were like that? Yes. It would be.
But I'm not.
I don't class or view all people the same because they share a gender.
For example I find it perfectly feasible, logical and reasonable behaviour to view women I'm attracted to that aren't attracted to me as friends, rather than someone torturing me because they have turned me down and as someone I need to cut ties with.
I find it completely acceptable for my wife to have male friends, some of whom are attracted to her. I wouldn't dream of telling her she couldn't. What right would I have to do so?
I don't view men in a negative way at all.
Just some of them. Because they give me just cause and valid reasons to do so.
Hope that clears things up for you. Have a fab day!
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"You've got lots of women on this thread arguing how hard it is and they are on a sex site full to the brim of men. I think that backs up exactly what I'm saying. Nah. That doesn't back up anything. What it does is highlights the lack of men they're attracted to and interested in. Almost as if Fab somehow attracts some men that they wouldn't dream of having sex with if they were the last two people on earth. Maybe Fab is full to the brim of men that lack social skills, respect for women, the ability to view them as equals rather than just a hole for them to stick their cock in and people put on this earth to service their needs? Maybe those women would rather have a wank thank engage with her those men? Now of course we all know that the majority of men don't fall into that category but the disparity in ratios is there because of something. Why do you think some men flock to Fab and other similar sex sites? Rather than seek sex out in the real world? You've spent the whole thread saying it's harder for men to find sex so maybe rather than blaming women or claiming that its all their fault because they are the 'gatekeepers' how about placing some of the responsibility for a lack of sex on those men going without? Did you ever consider for one second that the simple fact they're going without is because women find their neanderthal views and attitudes abhorrent? That the obsession some have with virtual flashing of their cocks isn't attractive in the slightest? That being followed around in swingers clubs and letched over isn't going to open that gateway to sex? Or is it inconceivable to you that it would be far, far easier for some men to find sex on Fab if they simply stopped acting in certain ways and started making themselves more appealing to the women they're lookingbfor sex from? Plenty of men find it easy to find sex on fab, in clubs, and yes, in the real world. Any man could potentially do the same. Well, almost any man. Some seem to do their utmost to deter female attention, attract interest and to portray themselves in a manner that would have someone, anyone, just a single solitary woman be the teeniest bit interested in ever getting naked with them. Some people just can't help themselves. A" Absolutely all of this! It soothes the ego of men who can’t get laid to blame that on women rather than take a look in the mirror. If you can’t get laid then it’s on you, not the women who don’t want to have sex with you. | |||
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"Anyone willing to settle for the bare minimum can easily get laid. No incorrect, you haven't been paying attention. A man unless they were in the top percentile might still struggle. This only applies to women. Explain why the oldest profession in the world is still relevant and it is a predominantly female job if this were the case?" Did you figure out why ? Women have a set number of eggs and years to breed and can do it only one at a time normally . Men can father multiple kids at the same time for many more years. There’s no cost to Mens bodies , there’s a huge cost to womens bodies. All this makes women far more sexually selective, they go for the best there is available to them , many men go for anyone, even other men if they can’t get a woman. | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find " I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x" Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier " Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. " How about, men not be twats then blame women for men not getting enough sex when it’s this behaviour that force women to keep their walls high. Don’t blame women when they don’t want low quality. Raise the bar and be better | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. How about, men not be twats then blame women for men not getting enough sex when it’s this behaviour that force women to keep their walls high. Don’t blame women when they don’t want low quality. Raise the bar and be better " Ignorance is no defence in a court of law. Women need to be more streetwise and savvy perhaps. | |||
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"Anyone willing to settle for the bare minimum can easily get laid. No incorrect, you haven't been paying attention. A man unless they were in the top percentile might still struggle. This only applies to women. Explain why the oldest profession in the world is still relevant and it is a predominantly female job if this were the case?" They'll struggle to find someone who meets their standards. Predominantly female job, but not entirely. | |||
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"Anyone willing to settle for the bare minimum can easily get laid. No incorrect, you haven't been paying attention. A man unless they were in the top percentile might still struggle. This only applies to women. Explain why the oldest profession in the world is still relevant and it is a predominantly female job if this were the case? They'll struggle to find someone who meets their standards. Predominantly female job, but not entirely." As discussed though, are their standards realistic if they are struggling when some have oceans of choice. Only really men for other men, not many women have to pay a man. That is a very niche market. | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. How about, men not be twats then blame women for men not getting enough sex when it’s this behaviour that force women to keep their walls high. Don’t blame women when they don’t want low quality. Raise the bar and be better Ignorance is no defence in a court of law. Women need to be more streetwise and savvy perhaps. " Balls, blaming women for men’s behaviour is low. Be better. Don’t tell women to be more savvy, tell men not be shitty to women. You really are giving Tate vibes by victim blaming, you’re saying women should be careful because men are men. Not ok | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. How about, men not be twats then blame women for men not getting enough sex when it’s this behaviour that force women to keep their walls high. Don’t blame women when they don’t want low quality. Raise the bar and be better Ignorance is no defence in a court of law. Women need to be more streetwise and savvy perhaps. Balls, blaming women for men’s behaviour is low. Be better. Don’t tell women to be more savvy, tell men not be shitty to women. You really are giving Tate vibes by victim blaming, you’re saying women should be careful because men are men. Not ok " You just said men are twats. That's not nice. Some men are like some women might be delusional. | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. How about, men not be twats then blame women for men not getting enough sex when it’s this behaviour that force women to keep their walls high. Don’t blame women when they don’t want low quality. Raise the bar and be better Ignorance is no defence in a court of law. Women need to be more streetwise and savvy perhaps. Balls, blaming women for men’s behaviour is low. Be better. Don’t tell women to be more savvy, tell men not be shitty to women. You really are giving Tate vibes by victim blaming, you’re saying women should be careful because men are men. Not ok You just said men are twats. That's not nice. Some men are like some women might be delusional. "I know you think you made a point but you just showed I’m correct, keep it up | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. How about, men not be twats then blame women for men not getting enough sex when it’s this behaviour that force women to keep their walls high. Don’t blame women when they don’t want low quality. Raise the bar and be better Ignorance is no defence in a court of law. Women need to be more streetwise and savvy perhaps. Balls, blaming women for men’s behaviour is low. Be better. Don’t tell women to be more savvy, tell men not be shitty to women. You really are giving Tate vibes by victim blaming, you’re saying women should be careful because men are men. Not ok You just said men are twats. That's not nice. Some men are like some women might be delusional. "I know you think you made a point but you just showed I’m correct, keep it up | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. How about, men not be twats then blame women for men not getting enough sex when it’s this behaviour that force women to keep their walls high. Don’t blame women when they don’t want low quality. Raise the bar and be better Ignorance is no defence in a court of law. Women need to be more streetwise and savvy perhaps. Balls, blaming women for men’s behaviour is low. Be better. Don’t tell women to be more savvy, tell men not be shitty to women. You really are giving Tate vibes by victim blaming, you’re saying women should be careful because men are men. Not ok You just said men are twats. That's not nice. Some men are like some women might be delusional.
I know you think you made a point but you just showed I’m correct, keep it up "If I had a daughter I'm gonna warn her about what some mens motives may be, I think most parents probably do too. I bet your dad probably told you. Or did it go in 1 ear or out the other. | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. How about, men not be twats then blame women for men not getting enough sex when it’s this behaviour that force women to keep their walls high. Don’t blame women when they don’t want low quality. Raise the bar and be better Ignorance is no defence in a court of law. Women need to be more streetwise and savvy perhaps. Balls, blaming women for men’s behaviour is low. Be better. Don’t tell women to be more savvy, tell men not be shitty to women. You really are giving Tate vibes by victim blaming, you’re saying women should be careful because men are men. Not ok You just said men are twats. That's not nice. Some men are like some women might be delusional.
I know you think you made a point but you just showed I’m correct, keep it up If I had a daughter I'm gonna warn her about what some mens motives may be, I think most parents probably do too.
I bet your dad probably told you.
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. How about, men not be twats then blame women for men not getting enough sex when it’s this behaviour that force women to keep their walls high. Don’t blame women when they don’t want low quality. Raise the bar and be better Ignorance is no defence in a court of law. Women need to be more streetwise and savvy perhaps. Balls, blaming women for men’s behaviour is low. Be better. Don’t tell women to be more savvy, tell men not be shitty to women. You really are giving Tate vibes by victim blaming, you’re saying women should be careful because men are men. Not ok You just said men are twats. That's not nice. Some men are like some women might be delusional.
I know you think you made a point but you just showed I’m correct, keep it up If I had a daughter I'm gonna warn her about what some mens motives may be, I think most parents probably do too.
I bet your dad probably told you.
Or did it go in 1 ear or out the other.
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. How about, men not be twats then blame women for men not getting enough sex when it’s this behaviour that force women to keep their walls high. Don’t blame women when they don’t want low quality. Raise the bar and be better Ignorance is no defence in a court of law. Women need to be more streetwise and savvy perhaps. Balls, blaming women for men’s behaviour is low. Be better. Don’t tell women to be more savvy, tell men not be shitty to women. You really are giving Tate vibes by victim blaming, you’re saying women should be careful because men are men. Not ok You just said men are twats. That's not nice. Some men are like some women might be delusional.
I know you think you made a point but you just showed I’m correct, keep it up If I had a daughter I'm gonna warn her about what some mens motives may be, I think most parents probably do too.
I bet your dad probably told you.
Or did it go in 1 ear or out the other.
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What a scary concept!!! X"It’s an insane concept isn’t it, that women would get to feel safe 24/7 Like imagine if we could take a late walk AND use two earphones too! Mind blowing and never happened in world history | |||
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"Anyone willing to settle for the bare minimum can easily get laid. No incorrect, you haven't been paying attention. A man unless they were in the top percentile might still struggle. This only applies to women. Explain why the oldest profession in the world is still relevant and it is a predominantly female job if this were the case?" Because some men can't keep their dicks in their pants when their significant others are not wanting sex, for example. Every man I know personally who has used a brothel is also a man who is married or in a long term relationship. One man's marriage ended because of his use of massage parlours. It's not just celibate/single men going to brothels etc. Plenty of men in relationships do too. And make escørts etc exist and are increasingly popular. | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find I totally agree with you but as a woman you have more opportunity to find your prince x Not really, we have plenty of opportunity to be lied to, to be lead on, personally I feel that’s no opportunity tbh. Actually finding someone who won’t lead on or deceive is extremely difficult and getting harder each day, not easier Some men will promise you the world for sex. You have to be wise if you think you are being conned. Be aware if the environment you are in. Sometimes if something is too good to be true it is. How about, men not be twats then blame women for men not getting enough sex when it’s this behaviour that force women to keep their walls high. Don’t blame women when they don’t want low quality. Raise the bar and be better Ignorance is no defence in a court of law. Women need to be more streetwise and savvy perhaps. Balls, blaming women for men’s behaviour is low. Be better. Don’t tell women to be more savvy, tell men not be shitty to women. You really are giving Tate vibes by victim blaming, you’re saying women should be careful because men are men. Not ok You just said men are twats. That's not nice. Some men are like some women might be delusional.
I know you think you made a point but you just showed I’m correct, keep it up If I had a daughter I'm gonna warn her about what some mens motives may be, I think most parents probably do too.
I bet your dad probably told you.
Or did it go in 1 ear or out the other.
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"It’s an interesting thread. I think some have missed the point. The basic question is can women get sex easier than men ? Not can they get good sex or sex with someone they are compatible with or who meets there parameters etc. Thats clearly different. For me it’s a resounding yes. I would wager that if 100 random single women from fab put up a meet me request for that very same evening and a 100 random men did likewise and all followed through with their incoming offers. A lot more of those 100 women would be having sex that evening than from those 100 men. Obviously there is no categorical proof but I would say, for me, it’s obvious. " As a basic answer yes it is. However sex is rarely a basic situation. Mrs | |||
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"Can I physically lay back with my eyes closed and let a man use my body? Sure Would there be a shortage of men willing? Nope Would I enjoy that or pick it for any type of activity for myself? Absolutely not The answer is no, I can’t get sex I’d enjoy at the drop of hat, even on a swinger site that's not realistic " But that wasn’t what the OP asked. | |||
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"Can I physically lay back with my eyes closed and let a man use my body? Sure Would there be a shortage of men willing? Nope Would I enjoy that or pick it for any type of activity for myself? Absolutely not The answer is no, I can’t get sex I’d enjoy at the drop of hat, even on a swinger site that's not realistic But that wasn’t what the OP asked. " If sex isn’t enjoyable or wanted, there’s a term for that | |||
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"It’s an interesting thread. I think some have missed the point. The basic question is can women get sex easier than men ? Not can they get good sex or sex with someone they are compatible with or who meets there parameters etc. Thats clearly different. For me it’s a resounding yes. I would wager that if 100 random single women from fab put up a meet me request for that very same evening and a 100 random men did likewise and all followed through with their incoming offers. A lot more of those 100 women would be having sex that evening than from those 100 men. Obviously there is no categorical proof but I would say, for me, it’s obvious. " Speaking personally I haven't missed the point at all because for me there is no difference between sex and good sex. I don't compromise. If it's not going to be an enjoyable experience it's not going to happen. It's not all about the physical act which is why I am very fussy about who I get naked with. I can only imagine that many people both men and women will think likewise and differentiate between sex for the sake of it and sex that is fulfilling. Anyone seeking a quick fuck can find it easily enough regardless of gender but anything more than a visit from a Panda isn't as straightforward. | |||
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"Can I physically lay back with my eyes closed and let a man use my body? Sure Would there be a shortage of men willing? Nope Would I enjoy that or pick it for any type of activity for myself? Absolutely not The answer is no, I can’t get sex I’d enjoy at the drop of hat, even on a swinger site that's not realistic " Absolutely this. I have had five men offer precisely that since I logged on this morning. I doubt men get the similar number of offers. So the answer is yes, it is in theory easier for women, but what is being offered is not what I am looking for | |||
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"Can I physically lay back with my eyes closed and let a man use my body? Sure Would there be a shortage of men willing? Nope Would I enjoy that or pick it for any type of activity for myself? Absolutely not The answer is no, I can’t get sex I’d enjoy at the drop of hat, even on a swinger site that's not realistic But that wasn’t what the OP asked. " The actual OP stated "if she wanted it". A lot of men commenting on this thread seem to have massively overlooked the fact that most women on here have noticed that part of the OP and answered accordingly. If its sex they don't want then no it's not easier. Maybe go back and re-read the OP. If youre using the argument here that women can get sex easily if there's no prerequisite for interest attraction then I'd say that men could get sex easily simply by meeting other men instead of relying on women. It still sex. So since we're taking interest and attraction off the table I'd recommend all the guys that think it's harder to find sex to change their preferences.
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"As discussed though, are their standards realistic if they are struggling when some have oceans of choice. Only really men for other men, not many women have to pay a man. That is a very niche market. " But it is a market. And there are straight men who play it only for women. And everyone is entitled to their standards, whether they're realistic or not. As has been said, if men were as willing to take any random cock as some people think all women should be, then there wouldn't be an issue, everyone could have all the mediocre sex they want. Sex without at least mutual attraction is pointless. | |||
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"As discussed though, are their standards realistic if they are struggling when some have oceans of choice. Only really men for other men, not many women have to pay a man. That is a very niche market. But it is a market. And there are straight men who play it only for women. And everyone is entitled to their standards, whether they're realistic or not. As has been said, if men were as willing to take any random cock as some people think all women should be, then there wouldn't be an issue, everyone could have all the mediocre sex they want. Sex without at least mutual attraction is pointless." Damn well said! | |||
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"The amount of women on this thread who say they find it very difficult to find someone they want to have sex with on a swingers site where the ratio of women to men is 1:50 (or more), should be a massive wake up call for the men on here. I suspect however the vast majority of men will still say the women are being too picky. I’ve read stats on this thread that 100% of women are having sex with 10-15% of men; I don’t believe that’s the case but if it is then maybe the other 85-90% of men should be looking at themselves and asking ‘what can I do differently?’ rather than blaming everyone else for their failure." Exactly! | |||
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"The amount of women on this thread who say they find it very difficult to find someone they want to have sex with on a swingers site where the ratio of women to men is 1:50 (or more), should be a massive wake up call for the men on here. I suspect however the vast majority of men will still say the women are being too picky. I’ve read stats on this thread that 100% of women are having sex with 10-15% of men; I don’t believe that’s the case but if it is then maybe the other 85-90% of men should be looking at themselves and asking ‘what can I do differently?’ rather than blaming everyone else for their failure. Exactly!" Never gonna happen though. Far easier to blame the numbers. How could it be possibly anything else....... 
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"It's really easy to find sex. But extremely difficult to find a gentleman that you're compatible, treat you with upmost respect. So no it's just as difficult as men find it here. Doesn't help when men talk to you disrespectfully." 100% this. | |||
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"The amount of women on this thread who say they find it very difficult to find someone they want to have sex with on a swingers site where the ratio of women to men is 1:50 (or more), should be a massive wake up call for the men on here. I suspect however the vast majority of men will still say the women are being too picky. I’ve read stats on this thread that 100% of women are having sex with 10-15% of men; I don’t believe that’s the case but if it is then maybe the other 85-90% of men should be looking at themselves and asking ‘what can I do differently?’ rather than blaming everyone else for their failure." Lord knows who dreamed that figure up but you only need to look around you in every day life to see it isn't correct. It would mean surely that 85 to 90% of relationships would be sexless and this 10 to 15% of men would be very busy boys | |||
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"Easier for a woman to find ANY sex , yes it is. I cannot speak for all women but I do not want ANY sex , I find that gross. I want sex I enjoy. I will choose no sex at all over just any fuck. And I do not moan or whine about it either I am very happy to do without. I am sure there are many people of all genders share that opinion. " | |||
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"It’s a bit of a generalisation I know, but. I say yes to this next statement and I agree with it. For singles, it’s easier for a woman to find a guy to have sex with if she wanted it, than it is for a man. Prove me be wrong. " Fella the numbers show for them selves at large! Women can get it anytime! Men have to ask for it,or wait for it! its to do with "Mindsets & Behaviours " the balance and unbalance of Shift in Power and Lead. | |||
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"It’s an interesting thread. I think some have missed the point. The basic question is can women get sex easier than men ? Not can they get good sex or sex with someone they are compatible with or who meets there parameters etc. Thats clearly different. "
It’s been a really good thread to read filled with lots of views. I’m not quite sure what ALL of our opinions prove. But our views come from all our own past experiences and what we see happening around us.
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"easier yes as easy as you guys think then no there still has to be an attraction /connection and thats hard to find" How can a connecton be hit/ struck from so afar! Via a page pic on a screen! Like reading an advert to buy somrthing! Over a pic/pic's. Then going to see it in the flesh, a whole unique experince accurs. It does not quate to much via the screen method. | |||
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"Yes and no I can easily put a status up and get a full inbox in mins If I’m happy to have no standards I can get laid every hour sure The problem is that little voice in the back of my mind saying loudly all the red flags making me feel uncomfortable So no, it’s hard as a single women to find someone I really want, someone who’s compatible and will let me enjoy myself and relax is rare to find " Food for thought! Theres more to it than what meets the eye! | |||
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"It’s an interesting thread. I think some have missed the point. The basic question is can women get sex easier than men ? Not can they get good sex or sex with someone they are compatible with or who meets there parameters etc. Thats clearly different.
It’s been a really good thread to read filled with lots of views. I’m not quite sure what ALL of our opinions prove. But our views come from all our own past experiences and what we see happening around us.
Thanks to all the replies. ""There is way way more going on beyond the surface of us all, deep in the Minds Black box!! BS = belief Systems! Come from exposure and condtioning from birth and childhood! Our Brain stores information, that we call upon to make our assumptions and decisions! Like pop up tabs. | |||
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" If you do the same thing over and over and expect different results though, some people might say that is the definition of insanity." Such as constantly moaning about women and then actually expecting some of us to have sex with you? | |||
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" If you do the same thing over and over and expect different results though, some people might say that is the definition of insanity. Such as constantly moaning about women and then actually expecting some of us to have sex with you? "take the SEX but out for a sec! Then what?? | |||
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