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Got that all arse about face!
Depends on who is doing the watching. If the inviters couple male is sitting out then he wants to see a bit of lady play with maybe a bit of cuckold?
If the inviters male expects the other male to sit out then he is being a bit bullish with two women and girl play.
If the inviters female is going to sit out then maybe a bit of cuck queen and or bi male play?
If the visitors female is going to sit out then again maybe cuck queen, maybe bi male play maybe just wants to see a fuckin good threesome play out?
Depends on who is going to sit out and why I suppose |
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"Got that all arse about face!
Depends on who is doing the watching. If the inviters couple male is sitting out then he wants to see a bit of lady play with maybe a bit of cuckold?
If the inviters male expects the other male to sit out then he is being a bit bullish with two women and girl play.
If the inviters female is going to sit out then maybe a bit of cuck queen and or bi male play?
If the visitors female is going to sit out then again maybe cuck queen, maybe bi male play maybe just wants to see a fuckin good threesome play out?
Depends on who is going to sit out and why I suppose "
Ooh I see yeah , I never thought about all the variations and what they would mean. |
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"Got that all arse about face!
Depends on who is doing the watching. If the inviters couple male is sitting out then he wants to see a bit of lady play with maybe a bit of cuckold?
If the inviters male expects the other male to sit out then he is being a bit bullish with two women and girl play.
If the inviters female is going to sit out then maybe a bit of cuck queen and or bi male play?
If the visitors female is going to sit out then again maybe cuck queen, maybe bi male play maybe just wants to see a fuckin good threesome play out?
Depends on who is going to sit out and why I suppose "
So say it’s like a situation where one person isn’t as attracted to one side of a couple. Is it a thing that that person might sit out and watch ? |
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"Got that all arse about face!
Depends on who is doing the watching. If the inviters couple male is sitting out then he wants to see a bit of lady play with maybe a bit of cuckold?
If the inviters male expects the other male to sit out then he is being a bit bullish with two women and girl play.
If the inviters female is going to sit out then maybe a bit of cuck queen and or bi male play?
If the visitors female is going to sit out then again maybe cuck queen, maybe bi male play maybe just wants to see a fuckin good threesome play out?
Depends on who is going to sit out and why I suppose
So say it’s like a situation where one person isn’t as attracted to one side of a couple. Is it a thing that that person might sit out and watch ?"
Generally a case that they don't actually meet |
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"I know that doesn’t even make sense, what would you call it when a couple meets another couple but on only watches the other 3? Also is this a thing that anyone enjoys? "
I have had this with couples, the man has sat back and watched, felt strange at first but the more it happened the more used to it I got. I do prefer everyone to join in though, more fun  |
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"Got that all arse about face!
Depends on who is doing the watching. If the inviters couple male is sitting out then he wants to see a bit of lady play with maybe a bit of cuckold?
If the inviters male expects the other male to sit out then he is being a bit bullish with two women and girl play.
If the inviters female is going to sit out then maybe a bit of cuck queen and or bi male play?
If the visitors female is going to sit out then again maybe cuck queen, maybe bi male play maybe just wants to see a fuckin good threesome play out?
Depends on who is going to sit out and why I suppose "
I'd agree that the 'why' is important.
We do this but it is nothing to do with cuckolding. Alice is an exhibitionist and I'm a voyeur who like the results later in the day when she's been showing off!  |
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We’ve had this on many occasions, sometimes it’s cuckold, sometimes it’s voyeur. The partner watching can be fun if you’re use to seeing them, we understand the question because we’ve asked the same to couples who play like this. Cucks want the shame of being left out, not touching there cock, etc voyeur may want to feel a breast or something has he gets more excited. Mostly there building a memory of it. |
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"I am not really interested in another male so would sit back and watch if the occasion arose  does that make me a cuck Queen "
That depends on the motivations and emotional reactions whilst watching. |
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"So say it’s like a situation where one person isn’t as attracted to one side of a couple. Is it a thing that that person might sit out and watch ?"
I'm sure that happens. It's not easy finding a foursome where everyone is attracted to everyone, and if your priority is giving pleasure then why not just sit back and watch them have fun? |
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"So say it’s like a situation where one person isn’t as attracted to one side of a couple. Is it a thing that that person might sit out and watch ?
I'm sure that happens. It's not easy finding a foursome where everyone is attracted to everyone, and if your priority is giving pleasure then why not just sit back and watch them have fun?"
Yeah this is kind of the line I was originally thinking down. Maybe the watching isn’t intentionally about playing out a cuckold or as a voyeur but to help support the play of the others whilst still being involved in some way. |
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" Mr4 is quite happy to watch and done if a fair few times and aslong as everyone's agreed and happy and having fun ??? "
Does he watch because he wants to though as like a direct intention from the start, or because the others would rather play without and he happens to still
Enjoy watching ? |
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I've had it before where myself and an ex met another couple for a foursome. It quite quickly became apparent when we were there that they clearly just wanted another girl to join them. The lack of single girls interested in joining them meant they looked for couples to come and join them.
However, even though I wasn't involved as much physically as I would have liked, it was still pretty hot watching the other couple play with my ex and seeing them experience new things and her being pleasured.
Although, for me, I'd prefer it if all people involved managed to enjoy each other and that if you sit out to watch and enjoy it, you'd managed to join back in seamlessly. However, like someone has just mentioned, trying to find another couple where everyone funds each other attractive and finding that connection can make things difficult! |
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"I've had it before where myself and an ex met another couple for a foursome. It quite quickly became apparent when we were there that they clearly just wanted another girl to join them. The lack of single girls interested in joining them meant they looked for couples to come and join them.
However, even though I wasn't involved as much physically as I would have liked, it was still pretty hot watching the other couple play with my ex and seeing them experience new things and her being pleasured.
Although, for me, I'd prefer it if all people involved managed to enjoy each other and that if you sit out to watch and enjoy it, you'd managed to join back in seamlessly. However, like someone has just mentioned, trying to find another couple where everyone funds each other attractive and finding that connection can make things difficult!"
But I think it’s pretty cool that you still let it happen and enjoyed the watching. |
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So say it’s like a situation where one person isn’t as attracted to one side of a couple. Is it a thing that that person might sit out and watch ?"
Tbh I think in that case you either cut the meet short in fairness to the other couple or you take one for the team which no one wants to or should do.
I can’t imagine how it would feel if we met another couple and they said they only wanted to play with one of us or as you suggested only one of them would play due to the same reason. |
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"I know that doesn’t even make sense, what would you call it when a couple meets another couple but on only watches the other 3? Also is this a thing that anyone enjoys? "
When I was part of a couple, I just used to watch him play. |
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"Got that all arse about face!
Depends on who is doing the watching. If the inviters couple male is sitting out then he wants to see a bit of lady play with maybe a bit of cuckold?
If the inviters male expects the other male to sit out then he is being a bit bullish with two women and girl play.
If the inviters female is going to sit out then maybe a bit of cuck queen and or bi male play?
If the visitors female is going to sit out then again maybe cuck queen, maybe bi male play maybe just wants to see a fuckin good threesome play out?
Depends on who is going to sit out and why I suppose
So say it’s like a situation where one person isn’t as attracted to one side of a couple. Is it a thing that that person might sit out and watch ?"
I can’t answer for every couple but for us if one of us isn’t attracted to the male and female of the other couple then we don’t take things any further..It has to be a 4 way attraction it’s alot harder to find but a lot more enjoyable when you do. |
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"Got that all arse about face!
Depends on who is doing the watching. If the inviters couple male is sitting out then he wants to see a bit of lady play with maybe a bit of cuckold?
If the inviters male expects the other male to sit out then he is being a bit bullish with two women and girl play.
If the inviters female is going to sit out then maybe a bit of cuck queen and or bi male play?
If the visitors female is going to sit out then again maybe cuck queen, maybe bi male play maybe just wants to see a fuckin good threesome play out?
Depends on who is going to sit out and why I suppose
So say it’s like a situation where one person isn’t as attracted to one side of a couple. Is it a thing that that person might sit out and watch ?I can’t answer for every couple but for us if one of us isn’t attracted to the male and female of the other couple then we don’t take things any further..It has to be a 4 way attraction it’s alot harder to find but a lot more enjoyable when you do."
Agreed definitely 4 way attraction. Been in clubs loads of times we go "she's nice" then loom at the guy and think yeah she's not Mrs type.
Definitely got to be a four way attraction which is not easy.
We went to a party night just gone and didn't find any attraction. Apart from a few people at the very end of the night. |
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"But generally it sounds like if one person wasn’t fancied the other couple wouldn’t be interested even if that person was willing to sit out and watch "
Yeah wouldn't work for us I'm afraid. Four-way attraction or nothing. |
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"We honestly don't mind 'taking one for the team'
I know lots of couples don't but we also get off on doing things that turn each other on
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I don't quite understand the stigma about that. I'm not saying that you should do something you don't enjoy, but there's a lot of enjoyment to be gained by putting someone else's pleasure first. |
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"We honestly don't mind 'taking one for the team'
I know lots of couples don't but we also get off on doing things that turn each other on
I don't quite understand the stigma about that. I'm not saying that you should do something you don't enjoy, but there's a lot of enjoyment to be gained by putting someone else's pleasure first."
You put it much better than me |
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I love to sit out and observe the fun unfolding between Bad Bitch and both male and females with her. The interaction and different dynamics are just awesome to time out and just take in for a bit. Likewise BB will do the same with me. It makes a good time to grab a phone/camera and snapshot the occasion.
As for my interpretation of the OPs question ie would I sit a whole meet on the sidelines and watch two people have her with no involvement from myself because they didn't fancy me? Bad Bitch would have none of that and probably much less likely neither would I the other way around. In actual fact neither of us would sit a meet out for the whole duration if we were both present. |
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"We honestly don't mind 'taking one for the team'
I know lots of couples don't but we also get off on doing things that turn each other on
I don't quite understand the stigma about that. I'm not saying that you should do something you don't enjoy, but there's a lot of enjoyment to be gained by putting someone else's pleasure first."
Yeah this was helpful, thank you |
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By *orem1000Couple
over a year ago
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"We’ve had this on many occasions, sometimes it’s cuckold, sometimes it’s voyeur. The partner watching can be fun if you’re use to seeing them, we understand the question because we’ve asked the same to couples who play like this. Cucks want the shame of being left out, not touching there cock, etc voyeur may want to feel a breast or something has he gets more excited. Mostly there building a memory of it. "
A voyeur gets his kicks from watching and has the choice of joining in if and when he chooses.
A cuck enjoys being denied and has no choice, some might want a small or big dose of humiliation alongside.
They say seduction is the art of denial so in both cases it's a game of seduction, difference is in who is doing the denial.
In most case neither the partner nor the bull have a deep understanding of the emotions involved so the cuck and the voyeur keep playing and looking for the ultimate experience. |
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Wifey recently told me of a fantasy where she watches me fuck another woman, preferably with her husband present and potentially joining in. My wife would be a voyeur and presumably take no part in the proceedings although may discreetly pleasure herself. I think that's a really hot scenario (although very unlikely to happen!) but I was trying to find some porn that might reflect this. However I've no idea what to look for! |
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"We’ve had this on many occasions, sometimes it’s cuckold, sometimes it’s voyeur. The partner watching can be fun if you’re use to seeing them, we understand the question because we’ve asked the same to couples who play like this. Cucks want the shame of being left out, not touching there cock, etc voyeur may want to feel a breast or something has he gets more excited. Mostly there building a memory of it.
A voyeur gets his kicks from watching and has the choice of joining in if and when he chooses.
A cuck enjoys being denied and has no choice, some might want a small or big dose of humiliation alongside.
They say seduction is the art of denial so in both cases it's a game of seduction, difference is in who is doing the denial.
In most case neither the partner nor the bull have a deep understanding of the emotions involved so the cuck and the voyeur keep playing and looking for the ultimate experience."
What therefore is the ultimate experience? |
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"We’ve had this on many occasions, sometimes it’s cuckold, sometimes it’s voyeur. The partner watching can be fun if you’re use to seeing them, we understand the question because we’ve asked the same to couples who play like this. Cucks want the shame of being left out, not touching there cock, etc voyeur may want to feel a breast or something has he gets more excited. Mostly there building a memory of it.
A voyeur gets his kicks from watching and has the choice of joining in if and when he chooses.
A cuck enjoys being denied and has no choice, some might want a small or big dose of humiliation alongside.
They say seduction is the art of denial so in both cases it's a game of seduction, difference is in who is doing the denial.
In most case neither the partner nor the bull have a deep understanding of the emotions involved so the cuck and the voyeur keep playing and looking for the ultimate experience."
So what’s the case for it being a supportive partner just sitting out to allow for the pleasure of the others to happen? |
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There’s times when I want to sit back and watch and there’s times when C wants to sit back and watch.
But we wouldn’t meet where one of us just watched…we very much join in.
We’d love it if there were couples who do play seperate or the guy wants to watch as trying to match up with a couple where everyone likes each other is hard work.
Any couples, where the guy loves to watch or be sent pics/videos, get in touch 
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OP are you worried about arranging a meet with another couple in case one of you doesn’t fancy them enough to play?
Apologies if I’m wrong but it seems to be what you’re focusing on with your questions.
There’s always a risk this can happen no matter how compatible they appear to be pre meet.
As I’ve mentioned before I can’t see another couple being willing to accept that scenario because it’s not what they agreed to.
We had a situation once where we’d chatted to a couple for weeks before we arranged to meet. When they turned up it was clear they had not been using recent photos on their profile. We had a drink and a chat then brought the evening to an end.
Once again, apologies if I’ve misunderstood x |
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By *orem1000Couple
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What therefore is the ultimate experience?"
The ultimate experience is when the emotions and feelings of the voyeur or the cuck are totally understood by the two actors in the plot and of course fulfilled |
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"OP are you worried about arranging a meet with another couple in case one of you doesn’t fancy them enough to play?
Apologies if I’m wrong but it seems to be what you’re focusing on with your questions.
There’s always a risk this can happen no matter how compatible they appear to be pre meet.
As I’ve mentioned before I can’t see another couple being willing to accept that scenario because it’s not what they agreed to.
We had a situation once where we’d chatted to a couple for weeks before we arranged to meet. When they turned up it was clear they had not been using recent photos on their profile. We had a drink and a chat then brought the evening to an end.
Once again, apologies if I’ve misunderstood x"
It’s actually more that I’ve found it difficult to find couples that I fancy that also fancy my bf. And it’s just exploring how other couples feel about that scenario as a way to still make play happen.
But I think I’ve seen the general gist, it seems for most that either all 4 are into each other or it’s not happening |
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It’s actually more that I’ve found it difficult to find couples that I fancy that also fancy my bf. And it’s just exploring how other couples feel about that scenario as a way to still make play happen.
But I think I’ve seen the general gist, it seems for most that either all 4 are into each other or it’s not happening "
What you’ve mentioned is a very common thing and one of the most difficult parts of four way play. It can be hard to find that elusive attraction between four people.
Have you considered going to clubs? |
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"OP are you worried about arranging a meet with another couple in case one of you doesn’t fancy them enough to play?
Apologies if I’m wrong but it seems to be what you’re focusing on with your questions.
There’s always a risk this can happen no matter how compatible they appear to be pre meet.
As I’ve mentioned before I can’t see another couple being willing to accept that scenario because it’s not what they agreed to.
We had a situation once where we’d chatted to a couple for weeks before we arranged to meet. When they turned up it was clear they had not been using recent photos on their profile. We had a drink and a chat then brought the evening to an end.
Once again, apologies if I’ve misunderstood x
It’s actually more that I’ve found it difficult to find couples that I fancy that also fancy my bf. And it’s just exploring how other couples feel about that scenario as a way to still make play happen.
But I think I’ve seen the general gist, it seems for most that either all 4 are into each other or it’s not happening "
This has been the case for us a few times. I don’t take it personally, I know my partner is delicious and I know full well I might be punching above my weight I guess sometimes people make a decision based on photos and to me that’s pretty shallow as it should be about connection rather than purely visual appeal. But then what do I know….  |
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It’s actually more that I’ve found it difficult to find couples that I fancy that also fancy my bf. And it’s just exploring how other couples feel about that scenario as a way to still make play happen.
But I think I’ve seen the general gist, it seems for most that either all 4 are into each other or it’s not happening
What you’ve mentioned is a very common thing and one of the most difficult parts of four way play. It can be hard to find that elusive attraction between four people.
Have you considered going to clubs?"
Yeah we work weekends so clubs aren’t as accessible to us. But I guess we have to make the best of it |
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over a year ago
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It’s actually more that I’ve found it difficult to find couples that I fancy that also fancy my bf. And it’s just exploring how other couples feel about that scenario as a way to still make play happen.
But I think I’ve seen the general gist, it seems for most that either all 4 are into each other or it’s not happening
What you’ve mentioned is a very common thing and one of the most difficult parts of four way play. It can be hard to find that elusive attraction between four people.
Have you considered going to clubs?"
This was the question I was going to ask (the not fancying the OH) - it happens a lot when there's 4 people in the equation and clubs aren't actually any different to meets arranged on here tbh. We found it the case so often that we'd not be attracted to both halves of a couple that we've stopped actively looking for them and have gone back to just looking for single males.
To the OP. Are you making sure any potential meets have the chance to see clear full face and body shots of your partner? If not, that's tempting fate when you do meet. Like us, you seem to have a fair old age gap between you, so it's always going to be the case that some will be more attracted to you dependant on their own ages.
All I can suggest is being as clear upfront as possible with photos, maybe video chat and/or a social meet prior to anything physical. That way you'll quickly establish if there's any issues with them not being interested in him and you can then decide to progress in a different manner or call it quits and seek someone else.
It's not easy but it's better to sort these things out in advance than after everyone's naked, as it can be pretty disheartening if rejection happens at that late stage.
Good luck!
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It’s actually more that I’ve found it difficult to find couples that I fancy that also fancy my bf. And it’s just exploring how other couples feel about that scenario as a way to still make play happen.
But I think I’ve seen the general gist, it seems for most that either all 4 are into each other or it’s not happening
What you’ve mentioned is a very common thing and one of the most difficult parts of four way play. It can be hard to find that elusive attraction between four people.
Have you considered going to clubs?
This was the question I was going to ask (the not fancying the OH) - it happens a lot when there's 4 people in the equation and clubs aren't actually any different to meets arranged on here tbh. We found it the case so often that we'd not be attracted to both halves of a couple that we've stopped actively looking for them and have gone back to just looking for single males.
To the OP. Are you making sure any potential meets have the chance to see clear full face and body shots of your partner? If not, that's tempting fate when you do meet. Like us, you seem to have a fair old age gap between you, so it's always going to be the case that some will be more attracted to you dependant on their own ages.
All I can suggest is being as clear upfront as possible with photos, maybe video chat and/or a social meet prior to anything physical. That way you'll quickly establish if there's any issues with them not being interested in him and you can then decide to progress in a different manner or call it quits and seek someone else.
It's not easy but it's better to sort these things out in advance than after everyone's naked, as it can be pretty disheartening if rejection happens at that late stage.
Good luck!
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Yeah makes sense, thanks for that. Although the rejection is entirely online anyway. It’s not big deal I was just curious what other couples were open to, and what their experiences were. |
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It’s actually more that I’ve found it difficult to find couples that I fancy that also fancy my bf. And it’s just exploring how other couples feel about that scenario as a way to still make play happen.
But I think I’ve seen the general gist, it seems for most that either all 4 are into each other or it’s not happening
What you’ve mentioned is a very common thing and one of the most difficult parts of four way play. It can be hard to find that elusive attraction between four people.
Have you considered going to clubs?
This was the question I was going to ask (the not fancying the OH) - it happens a lot when there's 4 people in the equation and clubs aren't actually any different to meets arranged on here tbh. We found it the case so often that we'd not be attracted to both halves of a couple that we've stopped actively looking for them and have gone back to just looking for single males.
To the OP. Are you making sure any potential meets have the chance to see clear full face and body shots of your partner? If not, that's tempting fate when you do meet. Like us, you seem to have a fair old age gap between you, so it's always going to be the case that some will be more attracted to you dependant on their own ages.
All I can suggest is being as clear upfront as possible with photos, maybe video chat and/or a social meet prior to anything physical. That way you'll quickly establish if there's any issues with them not being interested in him and you can then decide to progress in a different manner or call it quits and seek someone else.
It's not easy but it's better to sort these things out in advance than after everyone's naked, as it can be pretty disheartening if rejection happens at that late stage.
Good luck!
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Yeah makes sense, thanks for that. Although the rejection is entirely online anyway. It’s not big deal I was just curious what other couples were open to, and what their experiences were. "
No worries. It's tough when us old gits bag ourselves a younger hottie and are batting considerably out of our leagues....  
Great for us of course, but can cause the occasional issue meeting others.
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By *andk4fCouple
over a year ago
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"We had this a few times with the male of the other half watching, maybe a little with own partner.
Suits us!
Was that because you didn’t fancy him?"
On occasion yes, but mostly their set up / way of working |
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"We had this a few times with the male of the other half watching, maybe a little with own partner.
Suits us!
Was that because you didn’t fancy him?
On occasion yes, but mostly their set up / way of working "
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"But generally it sounds like if one person wasn’t fancied the other couple wouldn’t be interested even if that person was willing to sit out and watch "
If it’s truly what you are into, none of that is unlikely. You’ll find plenty of couples willing to play with you. You’re super cute. |
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"Got that all arse about face!
Depends on who is doing the watching. If the inviters couple male is sitting out then he wants to see a bit of lady play with maybe a bit of cuckold?
If the inviters male expects the other male to sit out then he is being a bit bullish with two women and girl play.
If the inviters female is going to sit out then maybe a bit of cuck queen and or bi male play?
If the visitors female is going to sit out then again maybe cuck queen, maybe bi male play maybe just wants to see a fuckin good threesome play out?
Depends on who is going to sit out and why I suppose
So say it’s like a situation where one person isn’t as attracted to one side of a couple. Is it a thing that that person might sit out and watch ?"
Just move on and find a couple where there is a four way attraction.  |
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My husband will happily sit and watch me play. He enjoyed watching me in a FFFF very recently.
I would also love to sit back and watch him play with another woman but that scenario is so difficult to find.
We do both play at the same time too though, after all variety, is the spice of life.
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