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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room. "How has it become such an industry, see the QOS merchandise on most adult websites | |||
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"Please excuse my ignorance (naivety), but what is QOS? Other than in reference to a pack of cards, ive never heard it used. It doesn't sound particularly PC...so im reluctant to Google search it." Queen of Spades | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room.
How has it become such an industry, see the QOS merchandise on most adult websites"You’ll have to ask those who merchandise it | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room. "Agreed. I've no doubt they'd love to use the N word while being fucked too. | |||
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"Please excuse my ignorance (naivety), but what is QOS? Other than in reference to a pack of cards, ive never heard it used. It doesn't sound particularly PC...so im reluctant to Google search it. Queen of Spades" Yeah, i read that in your initial post. But what's the reference as to adult sites? It sounds like im not the only one who's never heard of it before. | |||
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"Please excuse my ignorance (naivety), but what is QOS? Other than in reference to a pack of cards, ive never heard it used. It doesn't sound particularly PC...so im reluctant to Google search it. Queen of Spades Yeah, i read that in your initial post. But what's the reference as to adult sites? It sounds like im not the only one who's never heard of it before." It's a white lady who like to have sex with black men. She's a queen of spades. | |||
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"Please excuse my ignorance (naivety), but what is QOS? Other than in reference to a pack of cards, ive never heard it used. It doesn't sound particularly PC...so im reluctant to Google search it. Queen of Spades Yeah, i read that in your initial post. But what's the reference as to adult sites? It sounds like im not the only one who's never heard of it before. It's a white lady who like to have sex with black men. She's a queen of spades. " I thought they were called snow bunnies? | |||
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"Please excuse my ignorance (naivety), but what is QOS? Other than in reference to a pack of cards, ive never heard it used. It doesn't sound particularly PC...so im reluctant to Google search it. Queen of Spades Yeah, i read that in your initial post. But what's the reference as to adult sites? It sounds like im not the only one who's never heard of it before. It's a white lady who like to have sex with black men. She's a queen of spades. " Wow, seriously??? I had no idea. No wonder the OP is pissed off and offended Ill consider myself educated and enlightened | |||
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"People even get actual tattoos! I don't know why black men help to perpetuate it but I'm not allowed to get offended on their behalf. " People actually get a tattoo of their own name also in case they forget | |||
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"People even get actual tattoos! I don't know why black men help to perpetuate it but I'm not allowed to get offended on their behalf. " The same men possibly refer to themselves as BBCs. As equally derogatory, in my eyes. | |||
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"People even get actual tattoos! I don't know why black men help to perpetuate it but I'm not allowed to get offended on their behalf. The same men possibly refer to themselves as BBCs. As equally derogatory, in my eyes." I met a guy in a club once - lovely chap. We chatted for over an hour before playing. When I went to verify him afterwards I noticed that every verification focused on his penis size, prowess, physique etc. I focussed as much on his personality as his penis. He didn’t show the verification. Guessing he didn’t think his personality mattered!  | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room. "Whatever you do don’t go in the black guys/white girls thread. The language being used in there will tip you over the edge! | |||
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"Yup, gross. And anyone with half a brain knows that! I had to come off the black men/ white women thread cos it seems most people don’t understand racism. The men encouraging it are just as bad. "“It’s a fetish” / “it’s just a preference” isn’t a defence for racism either  | |||
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"Agreed, it should be banned straight away! " Banned?....... | |||
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"Agreed, it should be banned straight away! Banned?......." Yep , banned. Folk with the stick on tattoos should be flogged in public before having them removed with carbolic soap and wire brushes. | |||
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"Agreed, it should be banned straight away! Banned?....... Yep , banned. Folk with the stick on tattoos should be flogged in public before having them removed with carbolic soap and wire brushes. " | |||
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"I work in Information Technology and "QoS" is a network prioritisation term (Quality of Service). I shall continue to use this acronym." As long as you don’t have it tattooed on your ass you should be fine.  | |||
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"I work in Information Technology and "QoS" is a network prioritisation term (Quality of Service). I shall continue to use this acronym. As long as you don’t have it tattooed on your ass you should be fine. "• Noted.
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"To be honest never even heard that term until you just mentioned it...." Yep this is a new one to me too | |||
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"Surely it's just another name for a kink/fetish like BBC, some people are just into it... No offence caused when everyone is consenting? " So if that fetishbwas called 'Queen of N-word' would that be ok too? There seem to be two aspects to what the OP is saying. Firstly, there's the questionable fetish itself. And then there's the fact that the OP has informed us that many people find the word used as offensive as the N word. So, yeah, offence caused! | |||
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"Please excuse my ignorance (naivety), but what is QOS? Other than in reference to a pack of cards, ive never heard it used. It doesn't sound particularly PC...so im reluctant to Google search it. Queen of Spades Yeah, i read that in your initial post. But what's the reference as to adult sites? It sounds like im not the only one who's never heard of it before." Oh sorry. There are women here who call themselves this. Some even have a tatoo with a Spade (as in the deck of card symbol) with a Q in it. Others have it as a name or a claim to fame. It’s only on here that I’ve seen women using it. | |||
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"Let's just say there are plenty of black men in this forum who only think with their 10" inch head and will allow themselves to be degraded, disrespected all in the name of getting in a vagina or sleeping with someone's wife. That is the sad facts of it all and some are just really uneducated. Out." I agree and I’m a black woman. I’ve seen it so often like their only worth is their assumed cock size. | |||
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"Let's just say there are plenty of black men in this forum who only think with their 10" inch head and will allow themselves to be degraded, disrespected all in the name of getting in a vagina or sleeping with someone's wife. That is the sad facts of it all and some are just really uneducated. Out. I agree and I’m a black woman. I’ve seen it so often like their only worth is their assumed cock size." Indeed. It's sad to read, so I don't go into those threads anymore. | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room. "I really appreciate enlightening me. I wasn't aware of this elephant. I was recently told that the term oriental is also no longer socially acceptable. I'm happy to learn and change. | |||
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"I agree with you OP but until more black guys stand up to it and stop thinking with just there dicks I’m afraid it will not go away. (as won’t the many women with permanent QOS tattoos) " isn't this a shared responsibility? | |||
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"Please excuse my ignorance (naivety), but what is QOS? Other than in reference to a pack of cards, ive never heard it used. It doesn't sound particularly PC...so im reluctant to Google search it. Queen of Spades Yeah, i read that in your initial post. But what's the reference as to adult sites? It sounds like im not the only one who's never heard of it before. Oh sorry. There are women here who call themselves this. Some even have a tatoo with a Spade (as in the deck of card symbol) with a Q in it. Others have it as a name or a claim to fame. It’s only on here that I’ve seen women using it." I've seen it starting to creep into porn sites too. Personally I don't like it myself. I have met with black guys before but because I liked the person not just the colour of his skin. Why do we even need to highlight someone's skin colour? | |||
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"Just let people be and dont try to police it. If people want to use those terms then let them. Personally, when I am looking at porn, the moment I see race fetishised (BBC, QOS, the old "look at my wife fucking this big black man" bullshit) I move on. But thats just me. It doesnt flick my switch but it obviously works for others. Live and let live. " Why should we let them? If someone used the N word on here they'd get a ban. If out in public they could be in trouble with the police. These new terms are offensive in exactly the same way. Ignoring the issues does not stop it from happening. | |||
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"I work in Information Technology and "QoS" is a network prioritisation term (Quality of Service). I shall continue to use this acronym." That's the first one that came to my mind too. | |||
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"Just let people be and dont try to police it. If people want to use those terms then let them. Personally, when I am looking at porn, the moment I see race fetishised (BBC, QOS, the old "look at my wife fucking this big black man" bullshit) I move on. But thats just me. It doesnt flick my switch but it obviously works for others. Live and let live. Why should we let them? If someone used the N word on here they'd get a ban. If out in public they could be in trouble with the police. These new terms are offensive in exactly the same way. Ignoring the issues does not stop it from happening. " When does it stop then? For all good intentions of erasing offensive terms, words, and phrasing - we risk backing ourselves into a corner of coerced speech  | |||
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"Just let people be and dont try to police it. If people want to use those terms then let them. Personally, when I am looking at porn, the moment I see race fetishised (BBC, QOS, the old "look at my wife fucking this big black man" bullshit) I move on. But thats just me. It doesnt flick my switch but it obviously works for others. Live and let live. Why should we let them? If someone used the N word on here they'd get a ban. If out in public they could be in trouble with the police. These new terms are offensive in exactly the same way. Ignoring the issues does not stop it from happening. " And if they say it in bed my dick gets hard . Everyone has different levels of things they accept. If it’s not directly affecting you.. leave people be | |||
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"Just let people be and dont try to police it. If people want to use those terms then let them. Personally, when I am looking at porn, the moment I see race fetishised (BBC, QOS, the old "look at my wife fucking this big black man" bullshit) I move on. But thats just me. It doesnt flick my switch but it obviously works for others. Live and let live. Why should we let them? If someone used the N word on here they'd get a ban. If out in public they could be in trouble with the police. These new terms are offensive in exactly the same way. Ignoring the issues does not stop it from happening. And if they say it in bed my dick gets hard . Everyone has different levels of things they accept. If it’s not directly affecting you.. leave people be"That is your choice and fair enough in the bedroom where people are all consenting but we are discussing use in public and open forums. That's a very different thing. It may turn you on but it offends others. | |||
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"Just let people be and dont try to police it. If people want to use those terms then let them. Personally, when I am looking at porn, the moment I see race fetishised (BBC, QOS, the old "look at my wife fucking this big black man" bullshit) I move on. But thats just me. It doesnt flick my switch but it obviously works for others. Live and let live. Why should we let them? If someone used the N word on here they'd get a ban. If out in public they could be in trouble with the police. These new terms are offensive in exactly the same way. Ignoring the issues does not stop it from happening. And if they say it in bed my dick gets hard . Everyone has different levels of things they accept. If it’s not directly affecting you.. leave people be
That is your choice and fair enough in the bedroom where people are all consenting but we are discussing use in public and open forums. That's a very different thing.
It may turn you on but it offends others. "We are in a public forum but also on a sexualised website where 100s of people are clearly into this. I don’t think we should stigmatise QOS BBC etc as usually it’s used in an endearing way and not offensively. I’m personally offended by some of the things I see or read in here but I don’t comment on it I let them be and scroll on. Not saying others shouldn’t be offended btw | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room.
How has it become such an industry, see the QOS merchandise on most adult websites"............................ ..because it has wide appeal amongst the groups the OP mentions. | |||
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"I don’t think we should stigmatise QOS BBC etc as usually it’s used in an endearing way and not offensively. " ............. How do you know how its being used or the thinking behind it? Extending your logic it would be OK to refer to black people by the N word, provided the intent was endearing?  | |||
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"I find the whole "QOS" cringey as fuck to be honest . BBC is even abit cringe. The skin contrast is what makes it hot for a white women with a black guy. Don't need to add these fetishisms " Isn’t that just fetishising his black / white skin? I don’t see any difference between the two? | |||
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"I enjoy the raceplay aspect and don’t take it offensively whatsoever. Each to their own. " .............................. Once racism and the racial inequalities that still exist in society have been eradicated then you might have point. | |||
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"Just let people be and dont try to police it. If people want to use those terms then let them. Personally, when I am looking at porn, the moment I see race fetishised (BBC, QOS, the old "look at my wife fucking this big black man" bullshit) I move on. But thats just me. It doesnt flick my switch but it obviously works for others. Live and let live. Why should we let them? If someone used the N word on here they'd get a ban. If out in public they could be in trouble with the police. These new terms are offensive in exactly the same way. Ignoring the issues does not stop it from happening. And if they say it in bed my dick gets hard . Everyone has different levels of things they accept. If it’s not directly affecting you.. leave people be
That is your choice and fair enough in the bedroom where people are all consenting but we are discussing use in public and open forums. That's a very different thing.
It may turn you on but it offends others. "Can you provide a link to a forum discussion using this term, please? If as the OP has mentioned certain ladies on FAB have it tattooed on them that is their choice and we should be tolerant of those people, no? | |||
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"Just let people be and dont try to police it. If people want to use those terms then let them. Personally, when I am looking at porn, the moment I see race fetishised (BBC, QOS, the old "look at my wife fucking this big black man" bullshit) I move on. But thats just me. It doesnt flick my switch but it obviously works for others. Live and let live. Why should we let them? If someone used the N word on here they'd get a ban. If out in public they could be in trouble with the police. These new terms are offensive in exactly the same way. Ignoring the issues does not stop it from happening. And if they say it in bed my dick gets hard . Everyone has different levels of things they accept. If it’s not directly affecting you.. leave people be
That is your choice and fair enough in the bedroom where people are all consenting but we are discussing use in public and open forums. That's a very different thing.
It may turn you on but it offends others.
Can you provide a link to a forum discussion using this term, please?
If as the OP has mentioned certain ladies on FAB have it tattooed on them that is their choice and we should be tolerant of those people, no?".......................... But it's perfectly possible to express an interest in interracial sex without resorting to offensive/racist epithets. | |||
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"I don’t think we should stigmatise QOS BBC etc as usually it’s used in an endearing way and not offensively. ............. How do you know how its being used or the thinking behind it? Extending your logic it would be OK to refer to black people by the N word, provided the intent was endearing? "The n word is harsh to use publicly but some might like it in the bedroom. Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this | |||
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"I don’t think we should stigmatise QOS BBC etc as usually it’s used in an endearing way and not offensively. ............. How do you know how its being used or the thinking behind it? Extending your logic it would be OK to refer to black people by the N word, provided the intent was endearing?
The n word is harsh to use publicly but some might like it in the bedroom. Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this "Exactly it's about the history of QOS,you can't compare it with bbc! It's just not the same. | |||
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"I don’t think we should stigmatise QOS BBC etc as usually it’s used in an endearing way and not offensively. ............. How do you know how its being used or the thinking behind it? Extending your logic it would be OK to refer to black people by the N word, provided the intent was endearing? "Don’t think that logical extension works at all. There are plenty of women (and men) who love to be called slut, whore, bitch and any number of mysoginistic terms in the bedroom because they find them to be sexually exciting in that context, with that person or people. It doesn’t mean they think it’s okay for someone to call them that in the street, affectionately or more likely not. | |||
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"I don’t think we should stigmatise QOS BBC etc as usually it’s used in an endearing way and not offensively. ............. How do you know how its being used or the thinking behind it? Extending your logic it would be OK to refer to black people by the N word, provided the intent was endearing?
Don’t think that logical extension works at all. There are plenty of women (and men) who love to be called slut, whore, bitch and any number of mysoginistic terms in the bedroom because they find them to be sexually exciting in that context, with that person or people. It doesn’t mean they think it’s okay for someone to call them that in the street, affectionately or more likely not. "............................ I don't doubt it but I was referring to the poster's reference to intent, which appeared to justify the use of offensive language generally provided the intent isn't offensive. I'm afraid I'm struggling to understand how a conversation like this is still required in the 21st Century. | |||
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" Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this " ................................ You're making lots of assumptions about how black men think which only serves to perpetuate crass stereotypes. My husband's black and detests the term BBC (as do most black men I know) especially when it's applied to a human being and not just their genitals. If you enjoy being referred to that way, that's absolutely fine, but terms such as 'spade', 'bbc' etc shouldn't be used to describe black men generally. | |||
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"OP this is something that I've thought when seen this written or displayed. What I've found since being on the scene is racism seems to be ok providing you're getting something positive out of it. There is never a right way to be racist! You cannot complain about something if your willing to reinforce it elsewhere. I think that makes sense, forgive me if it sounds bad. " ................................ Hallelujah!  | |||
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"I personally dislike the term Queen of Spades along with Snow bunnies and even BBC Very very very outdated, cringeworthy and weird in my eyes to even use those terms Your not woke by any chance lol. " | |||
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"I personally dislike the term Queen of Spades along with Snow bunnies and even BBC Very very very outdated, cringeworthy and weird in my eyes to even use those terms Your not woke by any chance lol. " Mate, I’m 49 years old I’m Gen X I put the fear in Wokes | |||
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" Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this ................................ You're making lots of assumptions about how black men think which only serves to perpetuate crass stereotypes. My husband's black and detests the term BBC (as do most black men I know) especially when it's applied to a human being and not just their genitals. If you enjoy being referred to that way, that's absolutely fine, but terms such as 'spade', 'bbc' etc shouldn't be used to describe black men generally." I haven’t assumed how black men think at all if you read it back. And ok you husband has a right to detest it but a plethora of men don’t detest it. My thing is if people like it leave them to it, if you don’t like it … ignore it. It’s not harming you lol | |||
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" Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this ................................ You're making lots of assumptions about how black men think which only serves to perpetuate crass stereotypes. My husband's black and detests the term BBC (as do most black men I know) especially when it's applied to a human being and not just their genitals. If you enjoy being referred to that way, that's absolutely fine, but terms such as 'spade', 'bbc' etc shouldn't be used to describe black men generally. I haven’t assumed how black men think at all if you read it back. And ok you husband has a right to detest it but a plethora of men don’t detest it. My thing is if people like it leave them to it, if you don’t like it … ignore it. It’s not harming you lol " Lots of things get ignored because they're harmless... only they aren't; such as Metropolitan Police officer Wayne Couzens being nick-named the R@pist by his fellow officers... | |||
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"Surely it's just another name for a kink/fetish like BBC, some people are just into it... No offence caused when everyone is consenting? " Exactly that. It’s not for us but don’t care either way. If it offends you, don’t look at it | |||
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" Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this ................................ You're making lots of assumptions about how black men think which only serves to perpetuate crass stereotypes. My husband's black and detests the term BBC (as do most black men I know) especially when it's applied to a human being and not just their genitals. If you enjoy being referred to that way, that's absolutely fine, but terms such as 'spade', 'bbc' etc shouldn't be used to describe black men generally. I haven’t assumed how black men think at all if you read it back. And ok you husband has a right to detest it but a plethora of men don’t detest it. My thing is if people like it leave them to it, if you don’t like it … ignore it. It’s not harming you lol Lots of things get ignored because they're harmless... only they aren't; such as Metropolitan Police officer Wayne Couzens being nick-named the R@pist by his fellow officers..." Totally different, ridiculous comparison | |||
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" Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this ................................ You're making lots of assumptions about how black men think which only serves to perpetuate crass stereotypes. My husband's black and detests the term BBC (as do most black men I know) especially when it's applied to a human being and not just their genitals. If you enjoy being referred to that way, that's absolutely fine, but terms such as 'spade', 'bbc' etc shouldn't be used to describe black men generally. I haven’t assumed how black men think at all if you read it back. And ok you husband has a right to detest it but a plethora of men don’t detest it. My thing is if people like it leave them to it, if you don’t like it … ignore it. It’s not harming you lol Lots of things get ignored because they're harmless... only they aren't; such as Metropolitan Police officer Wayne Couzens being nick-named the R@pist by his fellow officers... Totally different, ridiculous comparison " It wasn't supposed to be a comparison; it's about tolerating a culture of ignorance. Maybe this is a better example of ignoring things that seem harmless: a work colleague gets ribbed by his work mates, he doesn't like it, everyone ignores it because its harmless banter and it not hurting anyone. So the banter continues and it continues to be ignored. Then the colleague feels that they have to quit their job. Enough people on here are saying that it isn't acceptable; don't we all want a site where every one feels comfortable, and where they don't have to tolerate racist terms just because these terms are considered harmless by some? | |||
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" Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this ................................ You're making lots of assumptions about how black men think which only serves to perpetuate crass stereotypes. My husband's black and detests the term BBC (as do most black men I know) especially when it's applied to a human being and not just their genitals. If you enjoy being referred to that way, that's absolutely fine, but terms such as 'spade', 'bbc' etc shouldn't be used to describe black men generally. I haven’t assumed how black men think at all if you read it back. And ok you husband has a right to detest it but a plethora of men don’t detest it. My thing is if people like it leave them to it, if you don’t like it … ignore it. It’s not harming you lol " .............................. You have made generalisations about how black men think "Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good" You've no evidence that's the case. | |||
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" Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this ................................ You're making lots of assumptions about how black men think which only serves to perpetuate crass stereotypes. My husband's black and detests the term BBC (as do most black men I know) especially when it's applied to a human being and not just their genitals. If you enjoy being referred to that way, that's absolutely fine, but terms such as 'spade', 'bbc' etc shouldn't be used to describe black men generally. I haven’t assumed how black men think at all if you read it back. And ok you husband has a right to detest it but a plethora of men don’t detest it. My thing is if people like it leave them to it, if you don’t like it … ignore it. It’s not harming you lol Lots of things get ignored because they're harmless... only they aren't; such as Metropolitan Police officer Wayne Couzens being nick-named the R@pist by his fellow officers... Totally different, ridiculous comparison It wasn't supposed to be a comparison; it's about tolerating a culture of ignorance. Maybe this is a better example of ignoring things that seem harmless: a work colleague gets ribbed by his work mates, he doesn't like it, everyone ignores it because its harmless banter and it not hurting anyone. So the banter continues and it continues to be ignored. Then the colleague feels that they have to quit their job. Enough people on here are saying that it isn't acceptable; don't we all want a site where every one feels comfortable, and where they don't have to tolerate racist terms just because these terms are considered harmless by some?" Some consider racist some consider harmless. Don’t like something being said on here block the person saying it you won’t see them say it again. Power is in your hands | |||
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" Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this ................................ You're making lots of assumptions about how black men think which only serves to perpetuate crass stereotypes. My husband's black and detests the term BBC (as do most black men I know) especially when it's applied to a human being and not just their genitals. If you enjoy being referred to that way, that's absolutely fine, but terms such as 'spade', 'bbc' etc shouldn't be used to describe black men generally. I haven’t assumed how black men think at all if you read it back. And ok you husband has a right to detest it but a plethora of men don’t detest it. My thing is if people like it leave them to it, if you don’t like it … ignore it. It’s not harming you lol .............................. You have made generalisations about how black men think "Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good" You've no evidence that's the case. " Do a forum search and see for yourself there are loads for and loads against, same as BWC | |||
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" Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this ................................ You're making lots of assumptions about how black men think which only serves to perpetuate crass stereotypes. My husband's black and detests the term BBC (as do most black men I know) especially when it's applied to a human being and not just their genitals. If you enjoy being referred to that way, that's absolutely fine, but terms such as 'spade', 'bbc' etc shouldn't be used to describe black men generally. I haven’t assumed how black men think at all if you read it back. And ok you husband has a right to detest it but a plethora of men don’t detest it. My thing is if people like it leave them to it, if you don’t like it … ignore it. It’s not harming you lol Lots of things get ignored because they're harmless... only they aren't; such as Metropolitan Police officer Wayne Couzens being nick-named the R@pist by his fellow officers... Totally different, ridiculous comparison It wasn't supposed to be a comparison; it's about tolerating a culture of ignorance. Maybe this is a better example of ignoring things that seem harmless: a work colleague gets ribbed by his work mates, he doesn't like it, everyone ignores it because its harmless banter and it not hurting anyone. So the banter continues and it continues to be ignored. Then the colleague feels that they have to quit their job. Enough people on here are saying that it isn't acceptable; don't we all want a site where every one feels comfortable, and where they don't have to tolerate racist terms just because these terms are considered harmless by some?" ................. | |||
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" Most know this and wouldn’t use it publicly. The reason I know it’s not used offensively is because QOS ladies love black men, why would they offend them purposely? Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good, as most men like to feel as if they have a big appendage. Just can’t see it being used to offend. The history of the phrases may have offensive undertones but in my opinion it shouldn’t in a forum like this ................................ You're making lots of assumptions about how black men think which only serves to perpetuate crass stereotypes. My husband's black and detests the term BBC (as do most black men I know) especially when it's applied to a human being and not just their genitals. If you enjoy being referred to that way, that's absolutely fine, but terms such as 'spade', 'bbc' etc shouldn't be used to describe black men generally. I haven’t assumed how black men think at all if you read it back. And ok you husband has a right to detest it but a plethora of men don’t detest it. My thing is if people like it leave them to it, if you don’t like it … ignore it. It’s not harming you lol .............................. You have made generalisations about how black men think "Calling someone BBC usually makes a guy feel good" You've no evidence that's the case. Do a forum search and see for yourself there are loads for and loads against, same as BWC " ................................. That isn't evidence that describing black men as BBC "usually makes a guy feel good". | |||
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"We've never understood people obsessed with BBC or fetishism someone because of the colour of their skin. Somehow obvious racism is fine here. " No different to fetishisation of hair colour, fat, skinny, big tits, no tits, or any other physical trait someone particularly likes. | |||
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"I personally dislike the term Queen of Spades along with Snow bunnies and even BBC Very very very outdated, cringeworthy and weird in my eyes to even use those terms Your not woke by any chance lol. Mate, I’m 49 years old I’m Gen X I put the fear in Wokes "This 
Makes me cringe too. Especially the tattoos. Maybe it’s because I grew up in East London, a black man isn’t this fetishised ‘trophy’ to me. The weird thing for me is reading that the woman ‘wants to try’ BBC like it’s not just a bloke with a big dick. But also agree that many on here take the whole QoS and BBC and use it to their advantage, can’t blame them if getting pussy by any means is their aim. But I’m shocked that anyone is ok with the use of the word spade! That was always a racist slur where I’m from, are ppl just that uneducated or naive? | |||
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"OP this is something that I've thought when seen this written or displayed. What I've found since being on the scene is racism seems to be ok providing you're getting something positive out of it. There is never a right way to be racist! You cannot complain about something if your willing to reinforce it elsewhere. It doesn’t sound bad. It sounds like a well thought out opinion. But are you saying that I reinforce racist terms elsewhere? I think that makes sense, forgive me if it sounds bad. " | |||
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"Please excuse my ignorance (naivety), but what is QOS? Other than in reference to a pack of cards, ive never heard it used. It doesn't sound particularly PC...so im reluctant to Google search it. Queen of Spades Yeah, i read that in your initial post. But what's the reference as to adult sites? It sounds like im not the only one who's never heard of it before. Oh sorry. There are women here who call themselves this. Some even have a tatoo with a Spade (as in the deck of card symbol) with a Q in it. Others have it as a name or a claim to fame. It’s only on here that I’ve seen women using it. I've seen it starting to creep into porn sites too. Personally I don't like it myself. I have met with black guys before but because I liked the person not just the colour of his skin. Why do we even need to highlight someone's skin colour? " It’s OK to have a preference. I don’t have a problem with people that state no black or Asian as well as those that state black only and even go as far as BBC (Big Black Cock). If you like and want a Big Black Cock then by all means say so. There’s no need to use a derogatory term to say you like black men. People have tried to say BBC is on par with Queen of Spades. As stated in the original post if you feel it inoffensive then go up to ANY black person and call them a Spade and see what happens. But do so at your own peril. Then go up to a black guy and say show me your big black cock and see the difference. However if you call someone a cock, prick or dick it doesn’t matter what size you’re referring to it could most definitely be deemed derogatory. But then it goes into the realm of context. Someone PM’d me saying that I was verified by BBC Lovin Bitches and said I couldn’t therefore complain. They asked my to explain how that can be OK but had already blocked me before I could reply. If these women want to call themselves Bitches That’s up to them. But I definitely know that the word Bitch is derogatory and I would never use it unless I was asked. The same way I wouldn’t spank or spit on anybody unless they wanted me to. I could go on but I hope it would be enough for those with brains. Those without have a whole different set if problems that I’m not qualified to deal with. | |||
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Makes me cringe too. Especially the tattoos. Maybe it’s because I grew up in East London, a black man isn’t this fetishised ‘trophy’ to me. The weird thing for me is reading that the woman ‘wants to try’ BBC like it’s not just a bloke with a big dick. But also agree that many on here take the whole QoS and BBC and use it to their advantage, can’t blame them if getting pussy by any means is their aim. But I’m shocked that anyone is ok with the use of the word spade! That was always a racist slur where I’m from, are ppl just that uneducated or naive? "Well said  | |||
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"When I have worn a qos tattoo it has been at the request of the guy I have met after they find out I make and sell adult temporary tattoos as well as my hotwife anklets. If anyone is offended then feel free to block my profile. " If it has been requested that’s completely different. Some people do scat. But I would be very unhappy if someone decided to shit on my chest or in my mouth without asking for permission so I could point blank refuse first. Don’t know about you. But if you want to block me for using an analogy then go ahead. | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room. "Totally agree with you m8, it’s totally unacceptable for this or any racist terms as you’ve said. Respect people’s preferences but not like that. | |||
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"I say this respect and the belief that intelligent people can have different views. I have learnt from life especially from religious folk that just because someone states something in a didactic manner and claims the high moral ground it does not necessarily make them right. So in regard to the BBC thing and QOS, I look at peoples' intent and not merely at the words. Most of the women I have met that use QOS are lovely people just like the BBCLB's. We have to distinguish people from the terms. If you want to look into an explanation of the term QOS have a listen to the podcast Venus Cuckoldress, the episode "The Truth about the Spade" and the explanation of how the term QOS came about. Personally, I don't agree with the explanation, but as the term derived from the States, I am not an expert in American slang. Do I think the term is racist? No. Do I think it's stupid? Yes. A big difference. However, do these things affect me economically, socially, politically? No. The whole swinging thing is an optional extra to life. The other point is that as someone into bdsm and kink I have no issue with fetish play between consenting adults. Even if it includes "raceplay". It is not my kink but l defend the right of consenting adults to do so, just not in front of me. That includes the true black masters and their views of superiority. I can understand that people find these things stupid or offensive but they are not a violation. There is a choice not to engage, which is not there when stopped by the police for bogus reasons." I shall not engage. | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room. "I agree - to me it’s offensive. However - a LOT of black guys on the site seem willing to debase themselves by referring to themselves constantly as ‘bbc’ - a term I was unaware of pre-fab. As I said in a previous post - I met a gorgeous guy who declined to show the veri I gave him because it focused on his intelligence/personality rather than his cock/performance. Many, many black guys are apparently happy to perpetuate this phenomena by going to bmfc nights etc - as are the ‘queens of spades’ with their tattoo’s. I can’t see this disappearing any time soon tbh op. | |||
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"I say this respect and the belief that intelligent people can have different views. I have learnt from life especially from religious folk that just because someone states something in a didactic manner and claims the high moral ground it does not necessarily make them right. So in regard to the BBC thing and QOS, I look at peoples' intent and not merely at the words. Most of the women I have met that use QOS are lovely people just like the BBCLB's. We have to distinguish people from the terms. If you want to look into an explanation of the term QOS have a listen to the podcast Venus Cuckoldress, the episode "The Truth about the Spade" and the explanation of how the term QOS came about. Personally, I don't agree with the explanation, but as the term derived from the States, I am not an expert in American slang. Do I think the term is racist? No. Do I think it's stupid? Yes. A big difference. However, do these things affect me economically, socially, politically? No. The whole swinging thing is an optional extra to life. The other point is that as someone into bdsm and kink I have no issue with fetish play between consenting adults. Even if it includes "raceplay". It is not my kink but l defend the right of consenting adults to do so, just not in front of me. That includes the true black masters and their views of superiority. I can understand that people find these things stupid or offensive but they are not a violation. There is a choice not to engage, which is not there when stopped by the police for bogus reasons." A very well written post - thank you. | |||
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"I wonder how the white women who enjoy meeting black men feel about being labelled as being racist for their preference? " Their preference isn’t racist, unless they prefer to meet black men because they think they are inferior due to the colour of their skin. However, some of the terms they are using to describe themselves and their preferences are racist. | |||
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"I wonder how the white women who enjoy meeting black men feel about being labelled as being racist for their preference? Their preference isn’t racist, unless they prefer to meet black men because they think they are inferior due to the colour of their skin. However, some of the terms they are using to describe themselves and their preferences are racist." And if they think they are superior because of the colour of their skin? Would that be racist? | |||
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"I wonder how the white women who enjoy meeting black men feel about being labelled as being racist for their preference? Their preference isn’t racist, unless they prefer to meet black men because they think they are inferior due to the colour of their skin. However, some of the terms they are using to describe themselves and their preferences are racist. And if they think they are superior because of the colour of their skin? Would that be racist? " Yes. | |||
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"I say this respect and the belief that intelligent people can have different views. I have learnt from life especially from religious folk that just because someone states something in a didactic manner and claims the high moral ground it does not necessarily make them right. So in regard to the BBC thing and QOS, I look at peoples' intent and not merely at the words. Most of the women I have met that use QOS are lovely people just like the BBCLB's. We have to distinguish people from the terms. If you want to look into an explanation of the term QOS have a listen to the podcast Venus Cuckoldress, the episode "The Truth about the Spade" and the explanation of how the term QOS came about. Personally, I don't agree with the explanation, but as the term derived from the States, I am not an expert in American slang. Do I think the term is racist? No. Do I think it's stupid? Yes. A big difference. However, do these things affect me economically, socially, politically? No. The whole swinging thing is an optional extra to life. The other point is that as someone into bdsm and kink I have no issue with fetish play between consenting adults. Even if it includes "raceplay". It is not my kink but l defend the right of consenting adults to do so, just not in front of me. That includes the true black masters and their views of superiority. I can understand that people find these things stupid or offensive but they are not a violation. There is a choice not to engage, which is not there when stopped by the police for bogus reasons." If you are out in public as a black person and someone called you a spade then it would be considered racist and potentially a criminal offence. There is no non-harmful racism, even if it gets you laid there is still a consequence. It might not be immediate or apparent to you. | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room. "Who the fuck would use this to describe a woman of colour - if im correct in understanding how its being used. For once almost speechless…. | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room.
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room.
Who the fuck would use this to describe a woman of colour - if im correct in understanding how its being used. For once almost speechless….
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room.
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. " You're gonna open a can of worms with this one! | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room.
Who the fuck would use this to describe a woman of colour - if im correct in understanding how its being used. For once almost speechless….
Who mentioned women of colour?
Like I said if I understood the usage correctly it referred to a woman of colour - if
It doesn’t then the post is void.
The usage refers to women (usually white) who fuck black men"Ok - i had that wrong. Still begs the question why someone needs a label and an offensive one at that | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. " Never have and never would use such a derogatory term. | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room.
Who the fuck would use this to describe a woman of colour - if im correct in understanding how its being used. For once almost speechless….
Who mentioned women of colour?
Like I said if I understood the usage correctly it referred to a woman of colour - if
It doesn’t then the post is void.
The usage refers to women (usually white) who fuck black men
Ok - i had that wrong. Still begs the question why someone needs a label and an offensive one at that "Im sure need has nothing to do with it, its just a kinky fetish. Upto to everyone individually to deem it offensive or not | |||
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" Im sure need has nothing to do with it, its just a kinky fetish. Upto to everyone individually to deem it offensive or not Exactly this "I agree - i personally find the use Of The word spade in connection with a black person offensive but others might not. Down to individual interpretation. | |||
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"I thought this was a ‘question of sport’ rant "Now that would be offensive. What have they done! | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room.
Who the fuck would use this to describe a woman of colour - if im correct in understanding how its being used. For once almost speechless….
Who mentioned women of colour?
Like I said if I understood the usage correctly it referred to a woman of colour - if
It doesn’t then the post is void.
The usage refers to women (usually white) who fuck black men
Ok - i had that wrong. Still begs the question why someone needs a label and an offensive one at that
Im sure need has nothing to do with it, its just a kinky fetish.
Upto to everyone individually to deem it offensive or not"So if someone decides the n word is a kinky fetish then all ok? We use ‘fetish’ too frequently to mask demeaning behaviours often underpinned by problematic attitudes - homophobic, misogynistic or racist. | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room.
Who the fuck would use this to describe a woman of colour - if im correct in understanding how its being used. For once almost speechless….
Who mentioned women of colour?
Like I said if I understood the usage correctly it referred to a woman of colour - if
It doesn’t then the post is void.
The usage refers to women (usually white) who fuck black men
Ok - i had that wrong. Still begs the question why someone needs a label and an offensive one at that
Im sure need has nothing to do with it, its just a kinky fetish.
Upto to everyone individually to deem it offensive or not
So if someone decides the n word is a kinky fetish then all ok? We use ‘fetish’ too frequently to mask demeaning behaviours often underpinned by problematic attitudes - homophobic, misogynistic or racist. "I havent said that at all. Something can be a kinky fetish and also demeaning/offensive/wrong etc at the same time. The two arent mutually exclusive | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room.
Who the fuck would use this to describe a woman of colour - if im correct in understanding how its being used. For once almost speechless….
Who mentioned women of colour?
Like I said if I understood the usage correctly it referred to a woman of colour - if
It doesn’t then the post is void.
The usage refers to women (usually white) who fuck black men
Ok - i had that wrong. Still begs the question why someone needs a label and an offensive one at that
Im sure need has nothing to do with it, its just a kinky fetish.
Upto to everyone individually to deem it offensive or not
So if someone decides the n word is a kinky fetish then all ok? We use ‘fetish’ too frequently to mask demeaning behaviours often underpinned by problematic attitudes - homophobic, misogynistic or racist. "That was my point above. There seems a hypocrisy that it's OK if it's in swinging world where it can be disguised as a preference but it's not OK outside of that sphere. | |||
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"Just let people be and dont try to police it. If people want to use those terms then let them. Personally, when I am looking at porn, the moment I see race fetishised (BBC, QOS, the old "look at my wife fucking this big black man" bullshit) I move on. But thats just me. It doesnt flick my switch but it obviously works for others. Live and let live. Why should we let them? If someone used the N word on here they'd get a ban. If out in public they could be in trouble with the police. These new terms are offensive in exactly the same way. Ignoring the issues does not stop it from happening. And if they say it in bed my dick gets hard . Everyone has different levels of things they accept. If it’s not directly affecting you.. leave people be
That is your choice and fair enough in the bedroom where people are all consenting but we are discussing use in public and open forums. That's a very different thing.
It may turn you on but it offends others.
Can you provide a link to a forum discussion using this term, please?
If as the OP has mentioned certain ladies on FAB have it tattooed on them that is their choice and we should be tolerant of those people, no?"Yes we should be tolerant but where do we draw the line. Would it be ok for people to display swastika on this public yet private forum as they may want to meet other racist people for swinging. | |||
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I agree - i personally find the use Of The word spade in connection with a black person offensive but others might not. Down to individual interpretation. "................................ If there are black people who get off on being called 'spade' or white people who enjoy referring to them as such in the privacy of their own homes, then get on with it, they can fill each others boots. The point is it shouldn't be accepted in the common vernacular to describe black people or celebrated publicly to satisfy anybody's fetish. | |||
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"I wonder how the white women who enjoy meeting black men feel about being labelled as being racist for their preference? There are many threads about people refusing to meet others from different races as being racist. When people do want to meet others from different races, they are also labelled racist. Is it only the term QOS that is offensive or is it the whole scene that people are bothered by?" It is not their preference that this post is about, it was started by a man who finds the term QoS offensive. Everyone is entitled to a preference but to use the term spade that a lot of black people rate as equal to the N word is just not appropriate. | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. " I see anything that refers to someone's race on here as wrong and potentially offensive. Anyone I see or who messages me asking for a PAWG gets blocked. | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. I see anything that refers to someone's race on here as wrong and potentially offensive. Anyone I see or who messages me asking for a PAWG gets blocked. " But as part of fetish play, as long as all consenting wouldn’t it be wrong to kink shame people? Even if you find their kinks abhorrent? Some kinks are awful in my opinion, abusing men or women. Some causing actual bodily harm. We are told that kink shaming is bad, but I imagine that ther could be some awfully racist roleplay that goes on. There are plenty of fetishes that can be deemed offensive. | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. I see anything that refers to someone's race on here as wrong and potentially offensive. Anyone I see or who messages me asking for a PAWG gets blocked. But as part of fetish play, as long as all consenting wouldn’t it be wrong to kink shame people? Even if you find their kinks abhorrent? Some kinks are awful in my opinion, abusing men or women. Some causing actual bodily harm. We are told that kink shaming is bad, but I imagine that ther could be some awfully racist roleplay that goes on. There are plenty of fetishes that can be deemed offensive." It is not the fetish I find offensive it is the terms they use to describe it. | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. I see anything that refers to someone's race on here as wrong and potentially offensive. Anyone I see or who messages me asking for a PAWG gets blocked. But as part of fetish play, as long as all consenting wouldn’t it be wrong to kink shame people? Even if you find their kinks abhorrent? Some kinks are awful in my opinion, abusing men or women. Some causing actual bodily harm. We are told that kink shaming is bad, but I imagine that ther could be some awfully racist roleplay that goes on. There are plenty of fetishes that can be deemed offensive." Like what? | |||
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" But as part of fetish play, as long as all consenting wouldn’t it be wrong to kink shame people? " ................................ Personally I find it more wrong to turn a blind eye to racist language and slogans in order to protect the sensitivities of people. | |||
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"ive always said it was wrong for as far back as i can remember ..there used to be a person on here who was lets say in the in crowd who slated anyone who went againts it and because she did other would too .... its crude and offensive i often get mail saying but you go with black guiys ?? my answer is simple i go with hot guys and hot guys come in all shapes n sizes skin colour or race ... i also dislike the bbc tag i think its cheap women will see if you have a big cock no need to put a pointless tag on it .... alot of the black guys ive been with also hate the QoS tag and the bbc or any other racial tag" .................................. | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. I see anything that refers to someone's race on here as wrong and potentially offensive. Anyone I see or who messages me asking for a PAWG gets blocked. But as part of fetish play, as long as all consenting wouldn’t it be wrong to kink shame people? Even if you find their kinks abhorrent? Some kinks are awful in my opinion, abusing men or women. Some causing actual bodily harm. We are told that kink shaming is bad, but I imagine that ther could be some awfully racist roleplay that goes on. There are plenty of fetishes that can be deemed offensive." its ok to have a opinion but its not ok to kink shame (not saying you have) the thing with kink is its a 2 way thing its always about consent so pain and humiliation is alway pre consented its what they want no one can say thats wrong but its ok to say its not for you | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. I see anything that refers to someone's race on here as wrong and potentially offensive. Anyone I see or who messages me asking for a PAWG gets blocked. But as part of fetish play, as long as all consenting wouldn’t it be wrong to kink shame people? Even if you find their kinks abhorrent? Some kinks are awful in my opinion, abusing men or women. Some causing actual bodily harm. We are told that kink shaming is bad, but I imagine that ther could be some awfully racist roleplay that goes on. There are plenty of fetishes that can be deemed offensive. Like what?" Like enjoying calling your sexual partner degrading and demeaning words to the extent that it enhances an orgasm. The irony is that swinging mandate means my statement is ‘kink shaming’ and not okay. But the degrading treatment is fine. | |||
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"Whilst I’d never use the term myself, if black women call themselves that then that’s their choice. I find calling women sluts, whores, cumdumps etc pretty offensive but some women enjoy it. We’re all different. Single white males are called all sorts lol!!! " You’ve misunderstood, the phrase is used by white women who enjoy having sex with black men. It is not a phrase used by black women. | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. I see anything that refers to someone's race on here as wrong and potentially offensive. Anyone I see or who messages me asking for a PAWG gets blocked. But as part of fetish play, as long as all consenting wouldn’t it be wrong to kink shame people? Even if you find their kinks abhorrent? Some kinks are awful in my opinion, abusing men or women. Some causing actual bodily harm. We are told that kink shaming is bad, but I imagine that ther could be some awfully racist roleplay that goes on. There are plenty of fetishes that can be deemed offensive. Like what? Like enjoying calling your sexual partner degrading and demeaning words to the extent that it enhances an orgasm. The irony is that swinging mandate means my statement is ‘kink shaming’ and not okay. But the degrading treatment is fine. " I have no idea what your point is! | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. I see anything that refers to someone's race on here as wrong and potentially offensive. Anyone I see or who messages me asking for a PAWG gets blocked. But as part of fetish play, as long as all consenting wouldn’t it be wrong to kink shame people? Even if you find their kinks abhorrent? Some kinks are awful in my opinion, abusing men or women. Some causing actual bodily harm. We are told that kink shaming is bad, but I imagine that ther could be some awfully racist roleplay that goes on. There are plenty of fetishes that can be deemed offensive. Like what? Like enjoying calling your sexual partner degrading and demeaning words to the extent that it enhances an orgasm. The irony is that swinging mandate means my statement is ‘kink shaming’ and not okay. But the degrading treatment is fine. I have no idea what your point is!" You never will | |||
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"Whilst I’d never use the term myself, if black women call themselves that then that’s their choice. I find calling women sluts, whores, cumdumps etc pretty offensive but some women enjoy it. We’re all different. Single white males are called all sorts lol!!! " It is white women who go with black men that call themselves that! | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. I see anything that refers to someone's race on here as wrong and potentially offensive. Anyone I see or who messages me asking for a PAWG gets blocked. But as part of fetish play, as long as all consenting wouldn’t it be wrong to kink shame people? Even if you find their kinks abhorrent? Some kinks are awful in my opinion, abusing men or women. Some causing actual bodily harm. We are told that kink shaming is bad, but I imagine that ther could be some awfully racist roleplay that goes on. There are plenty of fetishes that can be deemed offensive. Like what? Like enjoying calling your sexual partner degrading and demeaning words to the extent that it enhances an orgasm. The irony is that swinging mandate means my statement is ‘kink shaming’ and not okay. But the degrading treatment is fine. " the degrading is consented between to adults so there is nothing wrong with that no one is doing anything they dont want to do ...this tread is about a racial slur thats offensive nothing else | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. I see anything that refers to someone's race on here as wrong and potentially offensive. Anyone I see or who messages me asking for a PAWG gets blocked. But as part of fetish play, as long as all consenting wouldn’t it be wrong to kink shame people? Even if you find their kinks abhorrent? Some kinks are awful in my opinion, abusing men or women. Some causing actual bodily harm. We are told that kink shaming is bad, but I imagine that ther could be some awfully racist roleplay that goes on. There are plenty of fetishes that can be deemed offensive. Like what? Like enjoying calling your sexual partner degrading and demeaning words to the extent that it enhances an orgasm. The irony is that swinging mandate means my statement is ‘kink shaming’ and not okay. But the degrading treatment is fine. I have no idea what your point is! You never will "Nor will you it seems | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. I see anything that refers to someone's race on here as wrong and potentially offensive. Anyone I see or who messages me asking for a PAWG gets blocked. But as part of fetish play, as long as all consenting wouldn’t it be wrong to kink shame people? Even if you find their kinks abhorrent? Some kinks are awful in my opinion, abusing men or women. Some causing actual bodily harm. We are told that kink shaming is bad, but I imagine that ther could be some awfully racist roleplay that goes on. There are plenty of fetishes that can be deemed offensive. Like what? Like enjoying calling your sexual partner degrading and demeaning words to the extent that it enhances an orgasm. The irony is that swinging mandate means my statement is ‘kink shaming’ and not okay. But the degrading treatment is fine. the degrading is consented between to adults so there is nothing wrong with that no one is doing anything they dont want to do ...this tread is about a racial slur thats offensive nothing else" You’ve never ‘consented’ to anything that in a different context (fear of being alone, internalised sexism, emotional abuse, wanting to belong, self esteem issues ) that you would not have agreed to? | |||
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"Whilst I’d never use the term myself, if black women call themselves that then that’s their choice. I find calling women sluts, whores, cumdumps etc pretty offensive but some women enjoy it. We’re all different. Single white males are called all sorts lol!!! It is white women who go with black men that call themselves that! " But isn’t that their choice? If we’re talking kink shaming or body shaming or any kind of preference shaming would we ban the use of BBC, BBW, SSBBW, Hung male, Slut, cumdump etc? If the use of these terms are used within consenting groups is it offensive? | |||
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"I work in Information Technology and "QoS" is a network prioritisation term (Quality of Service). I shall continue to use this acronym." This | |||
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"Whilst I’d never use the term myself, if black women call themselves that then that’s their choice. I find calling women sluts, whores, cumdumps etc pretty offensive but some women enjoy it. We’re all different. Single white males are called all sorts lol!!! It is white women who go with black men that call themselves that! But isn’t that their choice? If we’re talking kink shaming or body shaming or any kind of preference shaming would we ban the use of BBC, BBW, SSBBW, Hung male, Slut, cumdump etc? If the use of these terms are used within consenting groups is it offensive? " No you can't really compare. We are not talking about kink or preference shaming. As someone else has already stated if you use the word "spade" towards a black person in public you could potentially be prosecuted as it is classed as a racial slur. Why should it suddenly be allowed because someone classes it as a kink? | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. " Thank god somebody on this thread talks a bit of sense at last | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. " Well you'd be entitled to, if you really wanted to. Im more offended by the grammar (Phat arse white girls). Oh yes, i had to google it. Another term ive never heard of. But what word would you claim to be offended by?? Phat or white?? If its white. I have a simple test. Stand in a busy town centre high street. Then point at white people and call them 'white'. Then, when you see black people, call them 'spade'. See if you notice any difference in their reactions. Spade is very offensive racist word. And its obvious it offends the OP. And id think a majority of reasonable people would think the same. | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. Well you'd be entitled to, if you really wanted to. Im more offended by the grammar (Phat arse white girls). Oh yes, i had to google it. Another term ive never heard of. But what word would you claim to be offended by?? Phat or white?? If its white. I have a simple test. Stand in a busy town centre high street. Then point at white people and call them 'white'. Then, when you see black people, call them 'spade'. See if you notice any difference in their reactions. Spade is very offensive racist word. And its obvious it offends the OP. And id think a majority of reasonable people would think the same. " ........................... | |||
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"Rap music will answer all these questions lol, yawn yawn yawn, little old offended me oh not me but offended on behalf of someone else yawn yawn yawn lol." ................................. Being offended on someone else's behalf gives credibility to a grievance, it's how society progresses. Often when the subject of a racist remark complains about it they're denounced..they have 'a chip on their shoulder'. Your approach would still have women denied the vote and children forced to climb up chimneys, but I'm sure if someone called your mother a c*** you'd soon be offended on her behalf. | |||
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"This is not a light hearted or tantalising thread. You have been warned. The term Queen of Spades is offensive. I find it to be a supremacists fantasy. Fortunately for users of the term, some men genuinely think with their dicks. Just imagine what would happen if you went up to a black guy and called him a Spade!!! Some men will sell themselves out just to get up in some pum pum. Others may just by some slim possibility not recognise the actual connotation of this term. But for those that don’t know, Spade disgusting racial slur on par with the N word, c**n and such. Now you know. Continue as you please. I just felt the need to put it out there before you shag the elephant in the room. "I’ve always said this. It’s an awful term. | |||
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"Why would anyone put, wide open pussy pics, ones where there is not one part of the guy just the female on their profile, if they are a single male with no mention of a female partner who plays." If you see such photos, report them as they breach Fab rules. Gbat | |||
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"It's challenging to know how to respond to someone who participates in perpetuating the fetishisation of BBC by meeting with profiles who have BBC ONLY and BLACK ONLY " exactly these are his verifications. We can all get offended by some things and not others | |||
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"Some people need to chill its just a preference. Are we going to also ban guys from using the phrase PAWG as i could find that racially offensive. Well you'd be entitled to, if you really wanted to. Im more offended by the grammar (Phat arse white girls). Oh yes, i had to google it. Another term ive never heard of. But what word would you claim to be offended by?? Phat or white?? If its white. I have a simple test. Stand in a busy town centre high street. Then point at white people and call them 'white'. Then, when you see black people, call them 'spade'. See if you notice any difference in their reactions. Spade is very offensive racist word. And its obvious it offends the OP. And id think a majority of reasonable people would think the same. " while I get what yiaubare saying, of you point at a women and call her a dirty cum slut, youd get a reaction closer to spade than white. There is context. This one is difficult because I do feel uncomfortable, but also see no end of QoS having success in their fetish. So it's not a blanket offensive term in the context of swinging. Like slut. | |||
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"Surely it's just another name for a kink/fetish like BBC, some people are just into it... No offence caused when everyone is consenting? " Exactly. People take too much offense on other People's behalf when no offense is intended | |||
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"If black men find the term QOS so offensive why do we see so many photos of black men having sex with women that have QOS tattoos?" Because some black men don't speak for all black men. Some will be offended by it, some won't. The original poster is offended by it. Gbat | |||
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"Surely it's just another name for a kink/fetish like BBC, some people are just into it... No offence caused when everyone is consenting? Exactly. People take too much offense on other People's behalf when no offense is intended " But something can still be widely considered offensive without someone being personally offended | |||
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"Surely it's just another name for a kink/fetish like BBC, some people are just into it... No offence caused when everyone is consenting? Exactly. People take too much offense on other People's behalf when no offense is intended But something can still be widely considered offensive without someone being personally offended " | |||
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"Being offended on someone else's behalf gives credibility to a grievance, it's how society progresses. Often when the subject of a racist remark complains about it they're denounced..they have 'a chip on their shoulder'. Your approach would still have women denied the vote and children forced to climb up chimneys, but I'm sure if someone called your mother a c*** you'd soon be offended on her behalf." | |||
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"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what." Stephen fry. " Absolutely love his common sense approach to PC brigade. There are a couple of similar quotes that spring to mind: ‘How arrogant are you to think that you deserve to go through life with no one ever saying anything that you don't agree with or like?’ - Ricky Gervais ‘In order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.’ - Jordan Peterson | |||
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