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" I would have thought that a straight man wanting to meet a TV which is a man who can be straight , bi or gay but likes to wear woman's clothes . That would make the TV seeker at least bi curious. what's every body else's thoughts. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. " they're not straight. I'm not sure what's so confusing | |||
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"Something about TVs that just ooze sexiness I don’t give a fuck about labels " I need a trip to Durham! | |||
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"I understand. But I just find it strange that some guys state on their profiles that they won't meet men. But are happy to meet TV's . What's the difference as in the end when the clothes come off they are the same. Hard cock , balls . Some like to fuck. More like to be fucked. " Femininity, makeup, smooth hairless body, girlie voice, and not all clothes need to come off - some guys don’t need to see a cocklet | |||
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"It's just a real pity we need to have labels at all. . It would be a much happier place if there was no labels. " . I disagree I think labels are important I don’t want to turn up too a couples home expecting a MFM where as they maybe expecting a MMF if I see the male is bi then I can ask further questions to see that I am comfortable with the situation or just say sorry not for me. | |||
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"I think maybe bi curious is probably the most "correct" label. At the end of the day I'm attracted to gorgeous women, if she turns out to have a cock then I'm basically ok with it. " Em, except that's not a woman then is it | |||
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"I understand. But I just find it strange that some guys state on their profiles that they won't meet men. But are happy to meet TV's . What's the difference as in the end when the clothes come off they are the same. Hard cock , balls . Some like to fuck. More like to be fucked. " Theres no difference. And those men who look to meet them are in denial | |||
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"It's just a real pity we need to have labels at all. . It would be a much happier place if there was no labels. . I disagree I think labels are important I don’t want to turn up too a couples home expecting a MFM where as they maybe expecting a MMF if I see the male is bi then I can ask further questions to see that I am comfortable with the situation or just say sorry not for me." Totally agree with this so people are able to match their preferences and sexual desires | |||
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"It's just a real pity we need to have labels at all. . It would be a much happier place if there was no labels. . I disagree I think labels are important I don’t want to turn up too a couples home expecting a MFM where as they maybe expecting a MMF if I see the male is bi then I can ask further questions to see that I am comfortable with the situation or just say sorry not for me. Totally agree with this so people are able to match their preferences and sexual desires " , that maybe so. But surely when your chatting with the people before you meet all that would be asked or told. But this is getting away from the question I asked at the start about straight men and TV's. | |||
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"I think maybe bi curious is probably the most "correct" label. At the end of the day I'm attracted to gorgeous women, if she turns out to have a cock then I'm basically ok with it. Em, except that's not a woman then is it" The point is I'm attracted to someone that looks like a gorgeous woman you donut. | |||
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"There is an issue on this site -- that TVs and TSs are in the same category. There's all the difference in the world between someone who dresses up as part of their fetish, and someone who lives and presents as the opposite sex all the time. Personally, I'm not bi -- I am not open to relationships with men. I'm not attracted to masculinity at all -- I therefore have no interest in crossdressers. However, I do admire and am totally open to meeting with feminine trans women. People are not black and white -- and using outdated labels are a very clumsy way of trying to define people." Totally agree pal | |||
"OK, I need to be careful what I say here!! Like most, labels are rubbish however, I'm annoyed if im ever called a TV!!!! I've been through so much shit, emotional off the scale situations (medication), lost most of my family and disliked by many people, and yes including from some on this site. All because I suffered with gender dysphoria. A TV is someone who dresses in clothes from the opposite sex to that they were born, for sexual gratification (Collins definition)" Really you should not need to be careful. I've spoken to several trans women who've unbelievably been accused of transphobia -- all because they are hesitant over whether part time crossdressers should be considered as part of the trans activism movement. As you said, you've gone through hell with your transition -- totally different situation from those who 'feel a bit feminine' on a particular day, or just don't wish to conform to traditional gender stereotypes. | |||
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" I would have thought that a straight man wanting to meet a TV which is a man who can be straight , bi or gay but likes to wear woman's clothes . That would make the TV seeker at least bi curious. what's every body else's thoughts. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. " would you like to meet a TV OP? | |||
" I would have thought that a straight man wanting to meet a TV which is a man who can be straight , bi or gay but likes to wear woman's clothes . That would make the TV seeker at least bi curious. what's every body else's thoughts. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. " Plenty of hetro Transvestites or Crossdressers. The compulsion is to dress and look like the opposite sex not necessarily to have the same sexual desires. | |||
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" I would have thought that a straight man wanting to meet a TV which is a man who can be straight , bi or gay but likes to wear woman's clothes . That would make the TV seeker at least bi curious. what's every body else's thoughts. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. would you like to meet a TV OP? " I have no problems meeting a TV as I am bi sexual, so happy to meet male or female. | |||
"OK, I need to be careful what I say here!! Like most, labels are rubbish however, I'm annoyed if im ever called a TV!!!! I've been through so much shit, emotional off the scale situations (medication), lost most of my family and disliked by many people, and yes including from some on this site. All because I suffered with gender dysphoria. A TV is someone who dresses in clothes from the opposite sex to that they were born, for sexual gratification (Collins definition)" | |||
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"And yes to the point lots of straight men contact me....." They aren't straight then, but they like to identify as straight. | |||
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"It's just a real pity we need to have labels at all. . It would be a much happier place if there was no labels. I agree. The sexuality tick box should be removed. " Sorry but I totally disagree. Whilst labels are not perfect they definitely serve a purpose. A kind of shorthand for establishing expectations and limits. If people are honest in describing themselves then they are a help. Perhaps rather than proposing removing them discussions on offering more options would be a better idea. | |||
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"I though trans ladies are legally ladies can use the ladies toilettes go to ladies prison and all that jazz so why is it the people that like them have to be bi?" Lol. Can’t imagine anyone being brave enough to raise their head above the parapet in response to this one | |||
"I think maybe bi curious is probably the most "correct" label. At the end of the day I'm attracted to gorgeous women, if she turns out to have a cock then I'm basically ok with it. " This pretty much sums me up too! Couldn’t have said it better | |||
" I would have thought that a straight man wanting to meet a TV which is a man who can be straight , bi or gay but likes to wear woman's clothes . That would make the TV seeker at least bi curious. what's every body else's thoughts. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. " Such a compelling statement whatever shall we do | |||
"I struggle with the idea of constantly labelling sexuality- we are all just on a spectrum with an acceptance that there is a blurring of sexual desire " This a very succinct description of me | |||
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"Exactly this" My fav TV plus West Ham fan added bonus | |||
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"I'm not a TV you tit........." Sorry TS I should know better, my apologies | |||
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"Technically everyone who masturbates is bi ...aren't they ? " | |||
" I would have thought that a straight man wanting to meet a TV which is a man who can be straight , bi or gay but likes to wear woman's clothes . That would make the TV seeker at least bi curious. what's every body else's thoughts. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. " Generally a TV identifies as a woman. Men are attracted to feminity even when its got a dick. That does nto make them gay as they may never meet a ghay/bi man. Most put their own twist ont his but that is how initial attarctions starts. Then of course they may just want to try a dick in a skirt, few mwn are totally straight in truth. | |||
"Technically everyone who masturbates is bi ...aren't they ? " Not even remotely. | |||
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"Does it matter? Maybe they are attracted to femininity not genitals? I would take a convincing sexy TV over a butch masculine skinhead woman any day. But really, why do you care??" The exact opposite here | |||
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"Technically everyone who masturbates is bi ...aren't they ? " Well, no... Masturbation is self love - what you're saying is, straight people aren't allowed to pleasure themselves otherwise they're bisexual make it make sense | |||
"what you're saying is, straight people aren't allowed to pleasure themselves otherwise they're bisexual make it make sense" If you wank, you're gay!!! Jesus Christ have I time travelled back to my year 7 school days??? | |||
"what you're saying is, straight people aren't allowed to pleasure themselves otherwise they're bisexual make it make sense If you wank, you're gay!!! Jesus Christ have I time travelled back to my year 7 school days??? " Aha doing mental gymnastics here, it's way too early for this | |||
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"what you're saying is, straight people aren't allowed to pleasure themselves otherwise they're bisexual make it make sense If you wank, you're gay!!! Jesus Christ have I time travelled back to my year 7 school days??? " Wow. I am SO gay. But I wank over women. So what does that mean? Do gay men watch themselves wank and get off on it? Brain melting. | |||
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"There's a lot of str8 boi wank regret going on in this thread I personally am not interested in people who are struggling with their sexuality too much. To me it cringe worthy & toxic. The most toxic type of men who try to hit me up are the ones who think they're too straight & are somehow doing me a favour by messaging me. Making this demand & having that expectation when truthfully if I want to throw off my wig put my hoodie on & tell you in a gruff masculine voice to run along up the road once you're finished, I will do If you want a girlfriend experience then go look for a girl. Not entertaining paranoid closet cases. " Str8 boi wank regret! | |||
"Your comment proves you understand the differences. So much ignorance in the UK." If you use the Reply + quote button we'll know which post you are replying to. | |||
"Your comment proves you understand the differences. So much ignorance in the UK." I just dont get the need to categorise and label. Its as stupid as arguing over a B&Q colour chart. "Oh no its sea green." "WELL I think it is ocean mist" FFS its an infinite scale not a fucking binary. Both colours might be a greeny blue but they arent the same. Same with sexuality. I tick straight cos there are three options, and I dont find masculinity sexually attractive. I like pussy, but if that pussy is on what my brain labels as "man" or "masculine" I am not interested. I dont get why anyone on the thread gives a fuck what someones sexuality is unless they are actively trying to fuck them? I think the OP is looking for men who are open to a bit of discreet bum fun but who will deny it to their dying day so he can try some cock without worrying about people with playground mentality brains calling him a poof. | |||
" I would have thought that a straight man wanting to meet a TV which is a man who can be straight , bi or gay but likes to wear woman's clothes . That would make the TV seeker at least bi curious. what's every body else's thoughts. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. Generally a TV identifies as a woman. Men are attracted to feminity even when its got a dick. That does nto make them gay as they may never meet a ghay/bi man. Most put their own twist ont his but that is how initial attarctions starts. Then of course they may just want to try a dick in a skirt, few mwn are totally straight in truth." What a load of sweeping nonsense. Men are attracted to feminity even with a dick? Few men are totally straight? What exactly are you basing this on? I for one can state categorically that neither of the above apply to me and id wager the vast majority of men would also fall into the same category | |||
"Your comment proves you understand the differences. So much ignorance in the UK. If you use the Reply + quote button we'll know which post you are replying to. " I never new !!!, God I'm thick..... | |||
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"I think maybe bi curious is probably the most "correct" label. At the end of the day I'm attracted to gorgeous women, if she turns out to have a cock then I'm basically ok with it. " Me too | |||
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"I would probably say they're bi-curious however... I do remember years ago an image that had a famous trans pornstar who 100% would pass for a pretty petite early 20s girl, everything about her was feminine apart from the big cock. Then it had another trans pornstar of a muscled, bearded, tatoo'd gruff looking guy with pecs in an Adonis pose with a vagina. Then it asked which you'd be gay for liking? Is it the equipment or is it femininity Vs masculinity. The line and what's actually important is different for everyone." The most interesting post I’ve read on this site. | |||
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"Why does it matter ?" It can matter quite a bit to safety for trans folk. It’s certainly not unheard of for people to think they’re okay with meeting a trans person, go through with the deed, then regret it afterwards and lash out violently. It’s one of the warning signs that needs to be looked for when considering your own safety. If someone isn’t comfortable admitting their preferences it has to at least be a consideration to think about. Whereas someone who is happy to put bi on their profile is less likely to have such regrets. Of course this is generalising on a grand scale and of course a vast majority of straight men wouldn’t behave like that but when the consequence of just meeting one who is like that can have horrid ramifications, it is something the raises a red flag. Just a thought to be aware of why some trans people will be wary of meeting straight people | |||
" I would have thought that a straight man wanting to meet a TV which is a man who can be straight , bi or gay but likes to wear woman's clothes . That would make the TV seeker at least bi curious. what's every body else's thoughts. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. " My thoughts are that such constructs are always bullshit. Just go for it. Of course you're getting it wrong. It's all wrong. That's what makes it such fun! | |||
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"Why does it matter ? It can matter quite a bit to safety for trans folk. It’s certainly not unheard of for people to think they’re okay with meeting a trans person, go through with the deed, then regret it afterwards and lash out violently. It’s one of the warning signs that needs to be looked for when considering your own safety. If someone isn’t comfortable admitting their preferences it has to at least be a consideration to think about. Whereas someone who is happy to put bi on their profile is less likely to have such regrets. Of course this is generalising on a grand scale and of course a vast majority of straight men wouldn’t behave like that but when the consequence of just meeting one who is like that can have horrid ramifications, it is something the raises a red flag. Just a thought to be aware of why some trans people will be wary of meeting straight people " This happens far too often unfortunately with trans women Every single one of my friends has had to deal with this issue at least once , I have dealt with it over 5 times myself personally. | |||
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"Why does it matter ? It can matter quite a bit to safety for trans folk. It’s certainly not unheard of for people to think they’re okay with meeting a trans person, go through with the deed, then regret it afterwards and lash out violently. It’s one of the warning signs that needs to be looked for when considering your own safety. If someone isn’t comfortable admitting their preferences it has to at least be a consideration to think about. Whereas someone who is happy to put bi on their profile is less likely to have such regrets. Of course this is generalising on a grand scale and of course a vast majority of straight men wouldn’t behave like that but when the consequence of just meeting one who is like that can have horrid ramifications, it is something the raises a red flag. Just a thought to be aware of why some trans people will be wary of meeting straight people This happens far too often unfortunately with trans women Every single one of my friends has had to deal with this issue at least once , I have dealt with it over 5 times myself personally. " Wow I must be one of the lucky ones, I have been meeting straight guys for over 10 years and never experienced any violent or abusive behaviour? | |||
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