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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Just a question.
To me there are various levels of bi and I find it confusing! Lol
So please clarify bi (excuse the pun) putting yes or no next to the relevant number to illustrate which is and which isn't bi
1) you'd wank or be wanked but nothing more
2) you'd suck or be sucked but nothing more
I get that if blokes fuck blokes or get fucked by blokes they are either gay or bi, depending on their activities with women but...
If a bloke would suck a cock but have no interest in fucking with another bloke does that make him bi curious, bi or orally bi.
If orally bi, is that totally different to bi? |
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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago
Calderdale innit |
Agree both would be classed as bi /curious.
My other half occasionally likes to have 3sums and is orally bi with the right people,we have him as bi curious on our joint profile.He'd never do more or meet a man alone though etc. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So if a bloke said to a bi"curious" bloke that he'd suck their cock but would have no interest in fucking, them getting pissed off males them the ones who don't understand the term "orally bi" then? |
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"Agree both would be classed as bi /curious.
My other half occasionally likes to have 3sums and is orally bi with the right people,we have him as bi curious on our joint profile.He'd never do more or meet a man alone though etc."
I am single but same principles as your other half, think bi playful works as a description |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Straight = Opposite sexy play only
Bi = boys and girls, any sexy play
Gay = only same sexy play
Not sure it matters if you wank, suck or fuck.
Does a label matters anyway... life's to short for all that thinking shit. Just get on with it and don't care, I say. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I always considered myself to be 100% straight but always enjoyed wearing female underwear and dresses.
Over the years our marriage developed into a cuckolding relationship with me progressively taking on the sissy role. My wife teased and encouraged me to suck one of her lovers and clean up came naturally. I would only consider bi fun when with my wife and have no inclination to meet guys alone…so not sure if that makes me bi or what. |
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"I always considered myself to be 100% straight but always enjoyed wearing female underwear and dresses.
Over the years our marriage developed into a cuckolding relationship with me progressively taking on the sissy role. My wife teased and encouraged me to suck one of her lovers and clean up came naturally. I would only consider bi fun when with my wife and have no inclination to meet guys alone…so not sure if that makes me bi or what."
I think you know it does. |
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It's tricky because even "straight" meets may limit activity, where Miss or Mr may only engage in masturbation or oral. The comfort level of any participant should be respected for straight, bi or gay. |
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By *eaSlutsCouple
over a year ago
Glasgow |
Try not to get bogged down in the minutiae of it all. You could begin to bracket all sorts of play into many and varied sub-catagories of sexual preferences/identities etc but is it really worth the bother?
If two people of any gender want to do something together and are consenting, it shouldn't really matter how they choose to identify themselves sexually.
If one person doesn't understand the other's boundaries or has a problem with them, maybe they aren't the best 2 to be playing together.
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"I always considered myself to be 100% straight but always enjoyed wearing female underwear and dresses.
Over the years our marriage developed into a cuckolding relationship with me progressively taking on the sissy role. My wife teased and encouraged me to suck one of her lovers and clean up came naturally. I would only consider bi fun when with my wife and have no inclination to meet guys alone…so not sure if that makes me bi or what."
Yes you are bi (but only act on it in very specific circumstances)
Don't worry about the labels.
It's like American teen Christians who consider themselves to be virgins as they don't do penis-in-vagina sex.
Anal is apparently fine. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Wish fab would add bi-playful or bi-oral as there is a need for better definition "
Here here!
When you say you'd suck a cock to someone bi "curios" and they assume you want to fuck them up the ass, then get shirty if not, it makes them the twat not you |
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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago
Calderdale innit |
"Agree both would be classed as bi /curious.
My other half occasionally likes to have 3sums and is orally bi with the right people,we have him as bi curious on our joint profile.He'd never do more or meet a man alone though etc.
I am single but same principles as your other half, think bi playful works as a description "
I think that would work ,many here genuinely don't think they have bi tendencies when they engage in same sex acts .
I agree about people not wanting to be labelled ,but just be open about what you're into and do etc.
Me being straight and my other half being orally bi definitely loses us meets ,but we would rather be upfront with people ,save any surprises and only attract those who want similar meets. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Straight = Opposite sexy play only
Bi = boys and girls, any sexy play
Gay = only same sexy play
Not sure it matters if you wank, suck or fuck.
Does a label matters anyway... life's to short for all that thinking shit. Just get on with it and don't care, I say."
100% this just do things you're comfortable with and of course what your play mate is comfortable with |
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What you are describing are sexual acts.
What turns people on in a certain situation is irrelevant.
If you are open to being in a relationship with either sex then you're bi.
If you enjoy helping your wife etc sucking a cock then you're straight.
If your wife plays with your ass, doesn't mean your bi, or sucking her dildo after it's been in her, it's just a sexual act.
Well, that's just how we look at it.
Neither of us would be in a relationship with the opposite sex, but enjoy the fun. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’m not against being labelled bi…it just that is very specific…I am only turned on by large cocks that are either going to or are just after screwing my wife…male to male kissing, or anal has no interest. Nor does bi oral outside the cuckolding environment. |
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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
Lincolnshire |
"What you are describing are sexual acts.
What turns people on in a certain situation is irrelevant.
If you are open to being in a relationship with either sex then you're bi.
If you enjoy helping your wife etc sucking a cock then you're straight.
If your wife plays with your ass, doesn't mean your bi, or sucking her dildo after it's been in her, it's just a sexual act.
Well, that's just how we look at it.
Neither of us would be in a relationship with the opposite sex, but enjoy the fun."
If a man has any sort of sex with another man he is by definition bisexual - don't be ashamed of it, don't be in denial, enjoy it and embrace it.
If a woman/wife plays with a man's ass then that's straight sex because it involves a man and a woman. |
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The way i see it is if you were curious about sucking a cock,tried it and didn't like it then you're not bi.
If you tried it,loved it and went from there then you're bi.
I am definitely the latter! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think sexuality is fluid and doesn't need defining.
I would consider myself straight as I am only attracted to women. But have I kissed a guy for a women who found it hot, and in an MMF had a man's mouth underneath me and his girlfriend and suck me briefly before having sex with her again? Yes.
But not attracted to men at all |
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If sexuality is a spectrum you decide how close to straight or gay you are. A bunch of builders I worked with once, would say you’re fully gay if you had a wank in the same room as another guy.
The reality is that one person idea of straight, bi or gay is their opinion. Watch gay porn you must be bi, says one but if you’ve never had a gay experience then you’re still straight says another.
But if you’ve actually played with a same sex partner you HAVE indulged in a gay/ bisexual act. That doesn’t mean you get invited to the next Pride Parade it just means you’ve had that experience.
So put simply, suck a cock once and never again, one person will say you’re bisexual for life, another will say you experimented but ultimately are straight. It’s what you decide, what you are that counts. |
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If you enjoy helping your wife etc sucking a cock then you're straight.
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This is the problem with the whole 'define yourself any way you want' movent that seem to be taking over.
What next, women that only have sex with women are hetero-sexual?
People seem to forget that the term bi is used as a short form of bi-sexual, it has nothing to do with emotional attraction.
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By *4DY-FWoman
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"What you are describing are sexual acts.
What turns people on in a certain situation is irrelevant.
If you are open to being in a relationship with either sex then you're bi.
If you enjoy helping your wife etc sucking a cock then you're straight.
If your wife plays with your ass, doesn't mean your bi, or sucking her dildo after it's been in her, it's just a sexual act.
Well, that's just how we look at it.
Neither of us would be in a relationship with the opposite sex, but enjoy the fun."
With what you’re saying, surely you should both have stated ‘straight’ on your profile then?
Basically…have sex in any which way you fancy and you will be straight so long as you don’t ‘date’ the opposite sex. (How I’ve read it) |
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By *uckrutCouple
over a year ago
Dallas |
I agree with you 100%, so if I want to suck and lick her pussy while you fuck my wife that doesn't mean Im bi, I just want her to reach a level of pleasure that is truly intense, , how would you feel about that. its called fucklicking.. she loves it, she cums so hard.. |
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Is there an option for...Happy to suck a cock with wife, or lick a pussy together? If there is we can't find it.
If we put straight, people would wrongly assume that we are opposed to playing together with a cock or pussy |
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By *4DY-FWoman
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"Is there an option for...Happy to suck a cock with wife, or lick a pussy together? If there is we can't find it.
If we put straight, people would wrongly assume that we are opposed to playing together with a cock or pussy"
So you’re both bi. No need to dress it down or up or sideways…being bi/straight/gay or anything in between is all fine  |
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"Is there an option for...Happy to suck a cock with wife, or lick a pussy together? If there is we can't find it.
If we put straight, people would wrongly assume that we are opposed to playing together with a cock or pussy
So you’re both bi. No need to dress it down or up or sideways…being bi/straight/gay or anything in between is all fine "
So how about yourself, your profile says you're straight, yet you're looking for a female couple.
If you say you're straight, thats absolutely up to you, we wouldn't dare tell you what you should label yourself |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
If you have sexual contact with both genders, you're bisexual.
I'm happy to be called that but I definitely prefer women if I have to pick!!
I've got no intention ever of forming a romantic relationship with a man but if the circumstances are right, I will suck their cock.
Bisexual.
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By *4DY-FWoman
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"Is there an option for...Happy to suck a cock with wife, or lick a pussy together? If there is we can't find it.
If we put straight, people would wrongly assume that we are opposed to playing together with a cock or pussy
So you’re both bi. No need to dress it down or up or sideways…being bi/straight/gay or anything in between is all fine
So how about yourself, your profile says you're straight, yet you're looking for a female couple.
If you say you're straight, thats absolutely up to you, we wouldn't dare tell you what you should label yourself"
Read my profile…  |
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By *lexV16Man
over a year ago
Welling |
"Just a question.
To me there are various levels of bi and I find it confusing! Lol
So please clarify bi (excuse the pun) putting yes or no next to the relevant number to illustrate which is and which isn't bi
1) you'd wank or be wanked but nothing more
2) you'd suck or be sucked but nothing more
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My take on this is as follow on the example for male sexuality:
Straight:
- you are straight if you aren’t arouse with any male-on-male action
- you are still straight if you allow other male to suck or wank you, but that’s your limits
- you are still straight if you were fucked in the arse (for whatever reason like d*unk young experiment, your lady asked you and were very convincing etc). You aren’t looking to repeat that experience.
Bi (all flavours):
- you love male on male, and male - female actions as little or as much in any shapes or forms including just thoughts and fantasies.
- yes, you are at least bi of you fucked a guy and were able to maintain erection till cum. Even if you say you didn’t like it, you don’t want it etc. DON’T lie to your self. Straight guy simply won’t be able to stay hard on a male (bj doesn’t count as a mouth is a mouth and no other body contact is required)
Gay:
- you love/like guys
- you aren’t aroused by male-female actions. opposite gender body parts do nothing for you.
- you had sex with opposite gender but not looking to repeat.
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By *batMan
over a year ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
You allow men to suck or wank your cock (as often or as little as you like) and you've allowed a man to fuck your bum (but only once). And you call that straight?
Gbat |
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By *lexV16Man
over a year ago
Welling |
"You allow men to suck or wank your cock (as often or as little as you like) and you've allowed a man to fuck your bum (but only once). And you call that straight?
Gbat "
Contraversary, I know. But that’s how I see it.
I don’t really care about labels. I am having sex with people who I have mutual sexual chemistry with, doesn’t really bother me nowadays how they identify them self. |
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Getting really fucked off (not having a dig at OP btw) with society needing to put tags on everything these days getting silly now…. Just come on here, chat politely… whatever floats your boat happy days go and enjoy it |
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"Getting really fucked off (not having a dig at OP btw) with society needing to put tags on everything these days getting silly now…. Just come on here, chat politely… whatever floats your boat happy days go and enjoy it"
agreed
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By *lexV16Man
over a year ago
Welling |
"Getting really fucked off (not having a dig at OP btw) with society needing to put tags on everything these days getting silly now…. Just come on here, chat politely… whatever floats your boat happy days go and enjoy it"
Amen |
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"Getting really fucked off (not having a dig at OP btw) with society needing to put tags on everything these days getting silly now…. Just come on here, chat politely… whatever floats your boat happy days go and enjoy it"
A lot of people rely on those 'tags' to find people they are interested in meeting. This whole 'call yourself what you like' thing makes it very hard for people to do that. |
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People can have any sexual interaction with any gender, without it defining their sexual orientation. It doesn't matter what sexual organ or body part is touching another gender's miscellaneous body parts.
It is on a spectrum but people having sexual action may be anywhere in the spectrum, including totally straight or gay. |
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I think a lot depends on the context.
In a sexual context, I'd describe myself as bi. I like cock, not men. I only suck cock, no interest in sex or being sucked, I am bi on our profile.
However, in the vanilla world, I'd describe myself as straight, I have no interest in "men", and I would never have a relationship with a guy. If pushed I'd probably describe myself as open minded.
Bi-curious is a one way street to me. You can only be curious until you've tried it. Once you have tried it, you're no longer curious.
What I think you find on Fab (and no doubt in real life too), is that an awful lot of men like cock, but don't like "men", that's fine, however I don't think you can or should describe yourself as straight at that point.
We need a
"emotionally straight, but love cock"
orientation option! |
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By *humper.Man
over a year ago
northumberland/scotland |
Some "interesting" views.
I'm listed as bicurious. Which I guess is still accurate. I've met, sucked, fucked, kissed, showered with a guy. I've let another guy fuck me in a mmf. Have I decided if I'm fully bi yet? No. I know that in the right circumstances I'm not against it. Would I go 1 on 1 with a guy again? Don't think so.
Bicurious (for me, it's always going to be subjective) is if you're still making your mind up, ie... curious.
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By *rmrs95Couple
over a year ago
Chester |
"Agree both would be classed as bi /curious.
My other half occasionally likes to have 3sums and is orally bi with the right people,we have him as bi curious on our joint profile.He'd never do more or meet a man alone though etc.
I am single but same principles as your other half, think bi playful works as a description "
Bi playful should be an option on here and I think would save alot of time and confusion in my opinion |
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A few years ago when at a club with a FWB of mine we were approached by guy, all be it good looking, gym fit but full of himself. Unfortunately I like to string these type of guys along and stroke their egos. As he went on about his prowess and magnificence, he said mid sentence “ Then I’ll pull out and you can suck my cock clean!” I immediately said “ Ahhh sorry mate you’ve lost us there we’re not into bi or gay guys “ . This poor guy nearly lost the plot and was deeply offended at the suggestion. I said mate it’s ok we don’t judge, which enraged him even more and protested even more animated . I said look bottom line is any guy who wants me to suck his cock is bisexual no mater how they view themselves. If sucking cock makes a man bisexual so does wanting and letting another man suck your dick. It’s still gay sex even if you don’t push back lol
I see profiles of “Bulls” stating they are straight but then in verifications having their dick sucked by husbands . Sorry but you are not straight, dominant yes , but straight no. If you care about labels. |
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I never understand why people go out of their way to look for loopholes into proving their non bi Ness, there are worse things in this world to be than bi or curious. If I was interested in any play a tall with the same sex then I would label myself bi and wear it with pride. |
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By *iss E99TV/TS
over a year ago
Near Taunton Somerset |
"Just a question.
To me there are various levels of bi and I find it confusing! Lol
So please clarify bi (excuse the pun) putting yes or no next to the relevant number to illustrate which is and which isn't bi
1) you'd wank or be wanked but nothing more
2) you'd suck or be sucked but nothing more
I get that if blokes fuck blokes or get fucked by blokes they are either gay or bi, depending on their activities with women but...
If a bloke would suck a cock but have no interest in fucking with another bloke does that make him bi curious, bi or orally bi.
If orally bi, is that totally different to bi?"
If you’re sexually or romantically attracted to men and women or all genders as some people express it then you’re bi.
Irrespective of what you like or fantasise about doing with them, this can vary you might enjoy intercourse with both or intercourse with one and only oral with the other but this is still bi. |
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By *1bttmMan
over a year ago
Shoreditch east London |
"Bi is bi. There aren’t levels of it. It’s just being bi. "
Disagree. What bout all those long term prison inmates that are quite homophobic and very str8 on the outside world but when they get banged up for yrs suddenly start sexual relationships with other guys? I'd consider that a situational thing and nuture caused by the environment and not nature. That's a level surely? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Bi is bi. There aren’t levels of it. It’s just being bi.
Disagree. What bout all those long term prison inmates that are quite homophobic and very str8 on the outside world but when they get banged up for yrs suddenly start sexual relationships with other guys? I'd consider that a situational thing and nuture caused by the environment and not nature. That's a level surely?"
Isn’t that just a myth though? |
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By *1bttmMan
over a year ago
Shoreditch east London |
"Bi is bi. There aren’t levels of it. It’s just being bi.
Disagree. What bout all those long term prison inmates that are quite homophobic and very str8 on the outside world but when they get banged up for yrs suddenly start sexual relationships with other guys? I'd consider that a situational thing and nuture caused by the environment and not nature. That's a level surely?
Isn’t that just a myth though? "
Not according to some of Louis Theroux's documentaries |
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Call me an old fashioned semantic fool...but if you enjoy doing something sexual with someone of the same sex and the opposite sex, you are bisexual.
"Sexual" to me means anything that, if done to a child, would get you arrested.
You see, like genders, sexuality seems to be open to all sorts of interpretation and Liberal people think its woke to allow everyone to "do you".
However, there are hard lines that some won't cross. So, if you want to say that sucking cock isn't sex, thats fine. But we all know it is.
And doing it is homosexual act. |
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"What you are describing are sexual acts.
What turns people on in a certain situation is irrelevant.
If you are open to being in a relationship with either sex then you're bi.
If you enjoy helping your wife etc sucking a cock then you're straight.
If your wife plays with your ass, doesn't mean your bi, or sucking her dildo after it's been in her, it's just a sexual act.
Well, that's just how we look at it.
Neither of us would be in a relationship with the opposite sex, but enjoy the fun."
Spot on, totally agree with you x |
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"A few years ago when at a club with a FWB of mine we were approached by guy, all be it good looking, gym fit but full of himself. Unfortunately I like to string these type of guys along and stroke their egos. As he went on about his prowess and magnificence, he said mid sentence “ Then I’ll pull out and you can suck my cock clean!” I immediately said “ Ahhh sorry mate you’ve lost us there we’re not into bi or gay guys “ . This poor guy nearly lost the plot and was deeply offended at the suggestion. I said mate it’s ok we don’t judge, which enraged him even more and protested even more animated . I said look bottom line is any guy who wants me to suck his cock is bisexual no mater how they view themselves. If sucking cock makes a man bisexual so does wanting and letting another man suck your dick. It’s still gay sex even if you don’t push back lol
I see profiles of “Bulls” stating they are straight but then in verifications having their dick sucked by husbands . Sorry but you are not straight, dominant yes , but straight no. If you care about labels. "
Love it!!!!
I think we are all getting consumed by the social perceptions and forgetting to break down the word.
bi basically is a way of saying something is of 2 (as opposed to a tri which is three - ie. Tripod). So in my eyes if you engage in sexual activity with 2 sexes you are “bisexual”
How bisexual you are - ie. full, hand play, oral, only with your wife - is a matter of personal preference. Just like a straight couple having anal/bondage/submissive sex or not, it’s doesn’t make them any more or less straight it just defines what sexual acts they like to engage in.
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"So if a bloke said to a bi"curious" bloke that he'd suck their cock but would have no interest in fucking, them getting pissed off males them the ones who don't understand the term "orally bi" then?"
It means they don't understand fucking (pun or no pun) consent.
No one is obligated to any part of another person's body.
Some women will suck a cock but want nothing more. Some women will fuck but not kiss. Some women will fuck but not suck. Some women are strictly handjobs.
I think this can go for all genders and orientations.
Welcome to the world of dealing with sexually aggressive men. Women have had to navigate this from the age of 10 even if they are lesbians. |
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"It's tricky because even "straight" meets may limit activity, where Miss or Mr may only engage in masturbation or oral. The comfort level of any participant should be respected for straight, bi or gay."
Yup. Consent is a thing. Before during and after. We all need to get used to it. Don't be a sex pest, regardless of gender/non-gender or orientation. |
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"I always considered myself to be 100% straight but always enjoyed wearing female underwear and dresses.
Over the years our marriage developed into a cuckolding relationship with me progressively taking on the sissy role. My wife teased and encouraged me to suck one of her lovers and clean up came naturally. I would only consider bi fun when with my wife and have no inclination to meet guys alone…so not sure if that makes me bi or what."
I played with a couple recently and I have zero sexual desire to touch or be touched by the lady. I dunno if it's because I'm 100% straight or my ND brain just won't let me go there.
Even if I don't want something, it's firmly set in my mind. I have even stopped halfway and withdrew consent. That might piss people off but if I'm not enjoying it anymore, we both should stop. ND brain meltdowns are a thing and would ruin everything for everyone. |
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"Try not to get bogged down in the minutiae of it all. You could begin to bracket all sorts of play into many and varied sub-catagories of sexual preferences/identities etc but is it really worth the bother?
If two people of any gender want to do something together and are consenting, it shouldn't really matter how they choose to identify themselves sexually.
If one person doesn't understand the other's boundaries or has a problem with them, maybe they aren't the best 2 to be playing together.
C x "
Facts...don't be strong-armed, coerced, and gaslighted into doing things that you do not want to do. Whatever the gender/non-gender/sexual orientation. |
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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
Lincolnshire |
"Bi is bi. There aren’t levels of it. It’s just being bi.
Disagree. What bout all those long term prison inmates that are quite homophobic and very str8 on the outside world but when they get banged up for yrs suddenly start sexual relationships with other guys? I'd consider that a situational thing and nuture caused by the environment and not nature. That's a level surely?"
The specific building someone is in doesn't affect their sexuality - if they're getting hard for sex with another man they are, at the very least, bisexual. |
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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
Lincolnshire |
"I’m tired of labels
Let’s just enjoy what we enjoy and leave it there"
Have you not read on here some of the horror stories where people have had unwelcome attention from the same gender?
That's why it's important to be honest with yourself and with others.
Those label haters don't seem to mind the straight label, they just object to the correct label for some strange reason?! |
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I guess it's all about people perceptions of who they are
Some are still get confused ie I don't fancy the same sex but in a fluid situation will engage in a sexual act with the same sex, but not actively seek it
We use labels to identify what's acceptable to us and allows others to search for such pleasures
No point searching for profiles who don't want the same thing it's an aid
I've had plenty of straight people contact me either fun
That's upto them to identify their selves
I go to club bi nights as I know most there will be open minded to same sex play, just agree boundaries
I would never of considered myself bi nor would any of my friends or colleagues think I was its just added fun and always been a rebel against the way society judges people |
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I think the issue is that there is a massive gap between being "not straight" and "being bi".
In the vanilla world, telling someone you're bi means you see men and women equally from a romantic point of view etc. A vanilla person would reasonably assume you'd date either a man or a woman.
For the purpose of Fab, I think if you're not 100% straight, you should identify as bi/curious on your profile, but I fully accept and agree that these people probably don't consider themselves bi in the vanilla world.
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By *1bttmMan
over a year ago
Shoreditch east London |
"Bi is bi. There aren’t levels of it. It’s just being bi.
Disagree. What bout all those long term prison inmates that are quite homophobic and very str8 on the outside world but when they get banged up for yrs suddenly start sexual relationships with other guys? I'd consider that a situational thing and nuture caused by the environment and not nature. That's a level surely?
The specific building someone is in doesn't affect their sexuality - if they're getting hard for sex with another man they are, at the very least, bisexual. "
That's not my point. I'm saying the environment is the catalyst and bisexual fluidity/levels exist where there might sometime be a physical need. It's not an attraction in these cases just a physical one brought on by the situation. There's many men on here that don't fancy men but when they need to cum look for other options. Maybe that does make them bi on the spectrum but most don't see it as that as they consider being bi means yr attracted to men. I'm gay and curious about pussy. Does that make me bi curious/bi? Def not Im gay and see it as a slight kink.
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over a year ago
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Can I ask a question?
If during a threesum for example there is a crossing of swords or very intimate play (DVP) or double fellatio there is touching is that classed as bi sexuality? |
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By *1bttmMan
over a year ago
Shoreditch east London |
"Can I ask a question?
If during a threesum for example there is a crossing of swords or very intimate play (DVP) or double fellatio there is touching is that classed as bi sexuality?"
I've often wonderwd this esp when the guy says they're 100% str8 amd not interested in any sexual act with a guy. But then they go on to say they like dvp.
For some reason I cant help but think there is an element of bi activity in this act. U have 2 cocks even when inside, not only stimulating the pussy but also getting friction from each others cocks as they rub together. I've even heard guys admit to feeling the other guy cummin has made them cum too. Without the pussy it would be the same as 2 guys dry humping each other. |
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"Can I ask a question?
If during a threesum for example there is a crossing of swords or very intimate play (DVP) or double fellatio there is touching is that classed as bi sexuality?"
From my point of view, I have never had a mfm because I fear there is a 95% chance I will lose my erection if that happens.
I really don't even like to see other mens hard cocks.
I see how some guys can concentrate on the woman, block the guy out and rub along nicely. Still a straight act...nearly.
But if you are aware of a cock rubbing against yours, and it adds to the pleasure for you, how can that not be a bi act? Low on the scale but still sex with a guy touching you.
I can't help how I feel and don't judge those that have a wide choice of sexual partners.
I know I sound uptight and repressed. Its just who I am. |
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And, as an extreme example, if you subbed one of the guys out and replaced him with a German Shepherd...
Is it just her having sex with it.
Or is he, by weight of having a hard on and fucking still, now also a deviant.
Can he claim he is straight and just happened to be there...concentrating on her?
I know I sound extreme, but it is the same semantically. |
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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
Lincolnshire |
"Bi is bi. There aren’t levels of it. It’s just being bi.
Disagree. What bout all those long term prison inmates that are quite homophobic and very str8 on the outside world but when they get banged up for yrs suddenly start sexual relationships with other guys? I'd consider that a situational thing and nuture caused by the environment and not nature. That's a level surely?
The specific building someone is in doesn't affect their sexuality - if they're getting hard for sex with another man they are, at the very least, bisexual.
That's not my point. I'm saying the environment is the catalyst and bisexual fluidity/levels exist where there might sometime be a physical need. It's not an attraction in these cases just a physical one brought on by the situation. There's many men on here that don't fancy men but when they need to cum look for other options. Maybe that does make them bi on the spectrum but most don't see it as that as they consider being bi means yr attracted to men. I'm gay and curious about pussy. Does that make me bi curious/bi? Def not Im gay and see it as a slight kink.
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Imagine a scale, 1 being straight (no fluidity) 10 being gay (no fluidity) 2-9 bisexual (fluid).
I very much doubt every single guy in prison has sex with another man, they are the straight ones, those that do have sex with other men are bisexual or gay - their denial, demeanor, or environment doesn't change their sexuality.
When you're straight you'd rather have a wank than sex with another man, that I can assure you.
I still don't understand why people are so frightened of admitting to being bisexual, it probably accounts for 80% of the population, it really isn't a big deal.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Fuck a label. I consider myself hetrosexual but more than happy to suck dick.
I don't have an attraction to men and don't think I ever will, but when there is dick to suck, I will. Just happens to be attached to a man!
And in my opinion there is nothing wrong with that. |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
"What bout all those long term prison inmates that are quite homophobic and very str8 on the outside world but when they get banged up for yrs suddenly start sexual relationships with other guys? I'd consider that a situational thing and nuture caused by the environment and not nature. That's a level surely?"
This us an easy one if you want to give them a label.
They are completely Bi but they prefer women.
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"Just a question.
To me there are various levels of bi and I find it confusing! Lol
So please clarify bi (excuse the pun) putting yes or no next to the relevant number to illustrate which is and which isn't bi
1) you'd wank or be wanked but nothing more
2) you'd suck or be sucked but nothing more
I get that if blokes fuck blokes or get fucked by blokes they are either gay or bi, depending on their activities with women but...
If a bloke would suck a cock but have no interest in fucking with another bloke does that make him bi curious, bi or orally bi.
If orally bi, is that totally different to bi?"
To me if you have any interaction with someone of the same sex you are bi. I don't mean crossing swords accidentally in a 3 some ect but to touch play with suck ect in my book makes you bi. |
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Maybe we all have a bit of sexual fluidity in us, depending on our own mind set, admitting your bi is a man thi g oh no can't say I'm bi as next step is I might turn gay, old fashioned views which are put up most of us from very young, i quite happily admit I enjoy both the female and male form, enjoying both together is a wonderful thing
This is from a man who only discovered my bi side when I started swinging, sexual liberation from the bigots and narrow minds |
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In my experience on the club scene things seem to be getting more fluid. To a point were labels are being obsolete. A lot of male friends of me and My Girl tend not to seem them self as bi but on occasion we see them enjoy acts with other guys. Often they say they will only do this with a guy but not that. I would say just concentrate on enjoying yourself and doing your thing.
Also I'd say there's a difference between being sexually bi and relationship bi. For example My Girl enjoys other women sexually but had never had a desire to date or be in a relationship with a woman. I think it's a huge spectrum and as we become more open about the diversity of male desire the labels become less relevant.
I guess that why Fab has the bi-curious label to blanket anyone who may not consider themselves exactly bi or gay but who do desire some forms of homosexual activity or contact. |
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"Maybe we all have a bit of sexual fluidity in us, depending on our own mind set, admitting your bi is a man thi g oh no can't say I'm bi as next step is I might turn gay, old fashioned views which are put up most of us from very young, i quite happily admit I enjoy both the female and male form, enjoying both together is a wonderful thing
This is from a man who only discovered my bi side when I started swinging, sexual liberation from the bigots and narrow minds "
Nope. Not all. But more power to you |
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"Just a question.
To me there are various levels of bi and I find it confusing! Lol
So please clarify bi (excuse the pun) putting yes or no next to the relevant number to illustrate which is and which isn't bi
1) you'd wank or be wanked but nothing more
2) you'd suck or be sucked but nothing more
I get that if blokes fuck blokes or get fucked by blokes they are either gay or bi, depending on their activities with women but...
If a bloke would suck a cock but have no interest in fucking with another bloke does that make him bi curious, bi or orally bi.
If orally bi, is that totally different to bi?"
Dont over think it. Any sexual activity with same sex is Bisexual.
If you are just orally bi it means you are bi but only like/do oral sex. |
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By *1bttmMan
over a year ago
Shoreditch east London |
"Bi is bi. There aren’t levels of it. It’s just being bi.
Disagree. What bout all those long term prison inmates that are quite homophobic and very str8 on the outside world but when they get banged up for yrs suddenly start sexual relationships with other guys? I'd consider that a situational thing and nuture caused by the environment and not nature. That's a level surely?
The specific building someone is in doesn't affect their sexuality - if they're getting hard for sex with another man they are, at the very least, bisexual.
That's not my point. I'm saying the environment is the catalyst and bisexual fluidity/levels exist where there might sometime be a physical need. It's not an attraction in these cases just a physical one brought on by the situation. There's many men on here that don't fancy men but when they need to cum look for other options. Maybe that does make them bi on the spectrum but most don't see it as that as they consider being bi means yr attracted to men. I'm gay and curious about pussy. Does that make me bi curious/bi? Def not Im gay and see it as a slight kink.
Imagine a scale, 1 being straight (no fluidity) 10 being gay (no fluidity) 2-9 bisexual (fluid).
I very much doubt every single guy in prison has sex with another man, they are the straight ones, those that do have sex with other men are bisexual or gay - their denial, demeanor, or environment doesn't change their sexuality.
When you're straight you'd rather have a wank than sex with another man, that I can assure you.
I still don't understand why people are so frightened of admitting to being bisexual, it probably accounts for 80% of the population, it really isn't a big deal.
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I get and understand a sliding scale and I def don't believe or said everyone in prison turns bi. I was merely suggesting that environmental factors may definitely play a part in someone's curiosity or the scale u refer to coming into play. I'm not a beleiver in converting people or think it's possible. Some people are able to suppress things more easily than others. I totally agree with yr sliding theory but equally fully accept some people aren100% straight in their sexual preference. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’m tired of labels
Let’s just enjoy what we enjoy and leave it there
Have you not read on here some of the horror stories where people have had unwelcome attention from the same gender?
That's why it's important to be honest with yourself and with others.
Those label haters don't seem to mind the straight label, they just object to the correct label for some strange reason?!"
If I’m playing with a couple as long as boundaries are set then there isn’t a problem, problems come when people don’t respect others boundary and get pushy.
I guess I haven’t read the horror stories. But maybe that’s cause I respect peoples boundaries: |
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Just watched Queer as Folk on Netflix. Actors on that series kissing each other, due to some of the inane comments on this thread they must be bisexual.
Also Pantomime Dames must be Transvestites as they’re men wearing dresses.
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