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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Who has accommodated whilst child/children in bed? We never have and have always said we wouldn't. Just wondered others _iews?

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By *coobyroo218Couple  over a year ago

Guernsey

never we always play when we do not have child,

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Same our daughter can be like stealth child sometimes, all of a sudden she's in the same room and you haven't even heard her lol

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By * n zCouple  over a year ago

leamington spa

Def not a good idea........children wake up all the time for different reasons and pick up on more than u think.

Def a no go for us!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Agree, I wouldn't be able to relax!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think this is just a decision for parents to make on an individual level, and certainly wouldn't judge those that do.

It must be hard to people with children at times, arranging things is hard enough being single.......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Same our daughter can be like stealth child sometimes, all of a sudden she's in the same room and you haven't even heard her lol"

This is why I won't go to someone's if there are children there (I have none of my own)...I would hate for them to walk in on anything, plus I'm not exactly quiet!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman  over a year ago

evesham

I don't have kids so it's not a problem for me.

I have had meets where children have been in the house. The first time I didn't know until the kid walked in on ne sat on the loo starlets

The second time was with a couple and I kept being shushed.....I didn't like being shushed lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think it all depends on age. If they are old enough to get out of bed on their own and have a wander then I think it should be a definite no.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wrong on so many levels.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think this is just a decision for parents to make on an individual level, and certainly wouldn't judge those that do.

It must be hard to people with children at times, arranging things is hard enough being single......."

I'd judge someone if they did that ... it's inappropriate.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My youngest is a non-verbal autistic and you never know what might come out later in life....

A little story to tell !

A couple was at a parents evening and their son was non-verbal or so they thought, anyway half way through the meeting he turned to the teacher and said in a very clear voice and for the first ever " My mum is seeing the milkman" well all i can say is that i wish i had been a fly on the wall.

So the moral of the story is never play with children in the house

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

we have played downstairs a few times whilst the baby is a sleep upstairs

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

if they need the cock or pussy, so be it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

went on a meet one and next thng baby starts screaming through a monitor,didnt have a clue there was a child in the house,needless to say we were in a taxi home home instantly

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By *haynebabeCouple  over a year ago

Walsall

We play at our and we have teenage and there no problem here meet people we do told people before meet them but everyone to there own

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

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Each to their, not judging, but having sex in my bed with the hubby is slightly different to a 3sum or couple meet which usually occurs downstairs in the living room. Wouldn't wanna try and explain that one to my 5 year old.

Think age of child comes into play too and how well they sleep etc

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By *coobyroo218Couple  over a year ago

Guernsey


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

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Thing is though being caught with a partner, no matter what the sex, is one thing being caught you down on a woman while her hubby is doggy styling you is another.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If we can we get them staying at someone's house but doesn't always work, we have played with the kids asleep upstairs but we don't accommodate overnight ( once our kids are asleep they tend to stay asleep till seven am ) everyone knows the kids are in the house as we always make them aware before hand

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

Thing is though being caught with a partner, no matter what the sex, is one thing being caught you down on a woman while her hubby is doggy styling you is another. "

Well i only really meet single men, so it's not to much of an issue for me and if i was having a 3sum then would problably go for a hotel or if child was away.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent

I have had one guy round a few times but my boy is in his cot and the guy is well aware that he's there. He has kids too so he understands. He's met my son anyway as we have seen each other a few times and he's stayed the night. This is the only time I have allowed it and wouldn't do it with anyone else. Any other meets would be while he's at his nannies etc. which I why I find meets very difficult to organise and have temporarily given up on organising meets as even trying to do a social to get to know people is impossible x x

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By *eryBigGirlWoman  over a year ago

East Yorkshire

Nope never - it's probably the only rule I've never broken!! Each to their own and I'd never judge but its not for me!!

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By *coobyroo218Couple  over a year ago

Guernsey


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

Thing is though being caught with a partner, no matter what the sex, is one thing being caught you down on a woman while her hubby is doggy styling you is another.

Well i only really meet single men, so it's not to much of an issue for me and if i was having a 3sum then would problably go for a hotel or if child was away."

Thats slightly different like you say. so no real issues

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

Thing is though being caught with a partner, no matter what the sex, is one thing being caught you down on a woman while her hubby is doggy styling you is another.

Well i only really meet single men, so it's not to much of an issue for me and if i was having a 3sum then would problably go for a hotel or if child was away.

Thats slightly different like you say. so no real issues "

Also never accom all night that is one biggy for me, my child doesnt see anyone arrive or leave!! And always tell anyone who is coming that i have child here, its only fair.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who has accommodated whilst child/children in bed? We never have and have always said we wouldn't. Just wondered others _iews? "

We wouldn't invite total strangers into our house with children sleeping upstairs but that's us others have other _iews and that's their choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This subject was raised a while ago and it turned a bit sour as I remember.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I only play when my daughter is at her dads for the weekend, wether at home or away.

My first couple meet was embarrassing tho, the kids were there when I got there, quite early and went off to school, they were supposed to be going to nana's, they didn't, by which time I'd had a drink, couldn't drive home, ended up staying the night, I wasn't very comfortable. The couple were lovely tho, it just doesn't work for me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"This subject was raised a while ago and it turned a bit sour as I remember.

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Well as I said, not here to judge, just wondered what others _iews were. No need for things to turn sour

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So long as necessary precautions are put in place, I don't see an issue with it.........

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"So long as necessary precautions are put in place, I don't see an issue with it........."

but any issue won't be with you as a single guy, your playmate/s.

you walk away and they deal with ANY impact

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This subject was raised a while ago and it turned a bit sour as I remember.

Well as I said, not here to judge, just wondered what others _iews were. No need for things to turn sour"

I was commenting on what happened last time, I'm not judging anyone either

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

I remember asking on previous threads raising this subject

if people wouldn't mind giving a clue as to what words you would use if a child walked in and saw mum or dad with a cock in the mouth and another either up the front/back/both bottom

just what would you say

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I remember asking on previous threads raising this subject

if people wouldn't mind giving a clue as to what words you would use if a child walked in and saw mum or dad with a cock in the mouth and another either up the front/back/both bottom

just what would you say"

My daughter is 12, I think she'd know exactly what was going on, all the more reason not to play when she's around

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"I remember asking on previous threads raising this subject

if people wouldn't mind giving a clue as to what words you would use if a child walked in and saw mum or dad with a cock in the mouth and another either up the front/back/both bottom

just what would you say

My daughter is 12, I think she'd know exactly what was going on, all the more reason not to play when she's around "

and I am not being obtuse but the very thought of the conversation makes me shudder, let alone have to do it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I remember asking on previous threads raising this subject

if people wouldn't mind giving a clue as to what words you would use if a child walked in and saw mum or dad with a cock in the mouth and another either up the front/back/both bottom

just what would you say"

We are cuddling.

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"I remember asking on previous threads raising this subject

if people wouldn't mind giving a clue as to what words you would use if a child walked in and saw mum or dad with a cock in the mouth and another either up the front/back/both bottom

just what would you say

We are cuddling."

cool, thanks

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By *stwo661Couple  over a year ago

Fareham

Not for us guys x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I remember asking on previous threads raising this subject

if people wouldn't mind giving a clue as to what words you would use if a child walked in and saw mum or dad with a cock in the mouth and another either up the front/back/both bottom

just what would you say

My daughter is 12, I think she'd know exactly what was going on, all the more reason not to play when she's around

and I am not being obtuse but the very thought of the conversation makes me shudder, let alone have to do it"

My daughter knows too damn much anyway, but if she ever asks me a question, I always answer truthfully, the question about masturbation was a tough one tho

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No I don't agree with it. A child's wellbeing is far more important than having sex with a stranger

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By *coobyroo218Couple  over a year ago

Guernsey


"I remember asking on previous threads raising this subject

if people wouldn't mind giving a clue as to what words you would use if a child walked in and saw mum or dad with a cock in the mouth and another either up the front/back/both bottom

just what would you say

My daughter is 12, I think she'd know exactly what was going on, all the more reason not to play when she's around

and I am not being obtuse but the very thought of the conversation makes me shudder, let alone have to do it

My daughter knows too damn much anyway, but if she ever asks me a question, I always answer truthfully, the question about masturbation was a tough one tho "

Ha ha had the convo with our 12 year old too, funny that it was me (paul) that talked to her lol. she always askes me.

best one was I came in from work and she came running down stairs to say " dad you never guess what, a boy at school found my G spot" what she meant was he found her goo goo spot tickling her lololol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I remember asking on previous threads raising this subject

if people wouldn't mind giving a clue as to what words you would use if a child walked in and saw mum or dad with a cock in the mouth and another either up the front/back/both bottom

just what would you say

My daughter is 12, I think she'd know exactly what was going on, all the more reason not to play when she's around

and I am not being obtuse but the very thought of the conversation makes me shudder, let alone have to do it

My daughter knows too damn much anyway, but if she ever asks me a question, I always answer truthfully, the question about masturbation was a tough one tho

Ha ha had the convo with our 12 year old too, funny that it was me (paul) that talked to her lol. she always askes me.

best one was I came in from work and she came running down stairs to say " dad you never guess what, a boy at school found my G spot" what she meant was he found her goo goo spot tickling her lololol

"

Haha this made me LOL

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent

I'd also like to point out the guy in question I met socially alone first and the first time he came back to mine my son was out for the night. I wouldn't of invited someone I hadnt met before back. Not even if I didn't have kids x

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By *imply_SensualMan  over a year ago

warrington

I wouldnt meet if my kids were staying over and nor would I meet at someone else's house if their kids were in - it just doesnt seem right. Kids grow up very quickly these days, but we should still give them as protection as we can.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton

It's not something that we'd do at home or at someone elses. It's not at all like being caught with your partner - I just can't understand why it has to be done. Hotels or go to some one elses house - are options, Z

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By *ezebelWoman  over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

My friends earliest ever memory is getting up in the middle of the night, walking to the top of the stairs and looking through the bannister to see her Mum with someone who wasnt her Dad....

She cant remember how old she was but she says she was very very young.

Her Mum didnt know she had seen her.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We wouldn't meet with children there. We've actually had a couple get the hump with us because we wouldn't have a social meet with their kids in tow...

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"We wouldn't meet with children there. We've actually had a couple get the hump with us because we wouldn't have a social meet with their kids in tow... "

bloody hell! i started a thread on this subject ages ago and one person said that a couple turned up at theirs for a meet with the children in the car! The kids knew why they were there and were told to wait in the car till they'd finished! The couple they were visiting told them to clear off! Z

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


"We wouldn't meet with children there. We've actually had a couple get the hump with us because we wouldn't have a social meet with their kids in tow...

bloody hell! i started a thread on this subject ages ago and one person said that a couple turned up at theirs for a meet with the children in the car! The kids knew why they were there and were told to wait in the car till they'd finished! The couple they were visiting told them to clear off! Z"

Oh my god!!!! X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not a chance and wouldn't go to someone's house whilst their kids were there either

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"We wouldn't meet with children there. We've actually had a couple get the hump with us because we wouldn't have a social meet with their kids in tow...

bloody hell! i started a thread on this subject ages ago and one person said that a couple turned up at theirs for a meet with the children in the car! The kids knew why they were there and were told to wait in the car till they'd finished! The couple they were visiting told them to clear off! Z

Oh my god!!!! X "

I know, it was an amazing story, you just feel so sorry for the children. They didn't even give em a bag of crisps! Z

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By *coobyroo218Couple  over a year ago

Guernsey

We played with couple that come over to Guernsey to meet us.

When they went home it s was ok we chatted on msn and then cammed with them but it got to the point when everytime we turned on they where there. Ok we could deal with that but then one day I was chatting to her and having a good old flirt and then she says say hi to blah blah and she sits one of her kids on her knee.

The kid was waving and being all kid like but it freaked me out a little.

was not right somehow so we stopped chatting to them as every time they would come on we had to say hi to the kids.

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Not a chance and wouldn't go to someone's house whilst their kids were there either"
Seconded and I also agree with what somebody said earlier... it is wrong at several levels.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

"

Hey, I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I have played while my son is in bed. I'm a single mother, do not have the luxury of having alternate weekends to myself as his dad has never been around. I also dont have easy access to sitters. I know my son is a deep sleeper and if he wasn't then I wouldn't. Its so easy for other people who have lots of free time to judge. Whilst not ideal and I've only done it a few times, its unfair to criticise because I do. All of our situations are very different!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not a chance and wouldn't go to someone's house whilst their kids were there eitherSeconded and I also agree with what somebody said earlier... it is wrong at several levels. "

Why?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

Hey, I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I have played while my son is in bed. I'm a single mother, do not have the luxury of having alternate weekends to myself as his dad has never been around. I also dont have easy access to sitters. I know my son is a deep sleeper and if he wasn't then I wouldn't. Its so easy for other people who have lots of free time to judge. Whilst not ideal and I've only done it a few times, its unfair to criticise because I do. All of our situations are very different!"

Exactly, i would love to have an endless stream of sitters or a dad i could send mine to, but i dont. So hotels and going to others isn't an option, but i am entitled to a life, and i know my child is safe, asleep and there are no risks.

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Not a chance and wouldn't go to someone's house whilst their kids were there eitherSeconded and I also agree with what somebody said earlier... it is wrong at several levels.

Why?"

For me swinging and kids simply don't mix. I am quite uncomfortable with any interface of swinging and kids and the (even remotest) chance of a child walking in or becoming aware of what is going on. Also I personally would not be able to relax if I knew there were kids/ babies about. It is just my _iew of swinging.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


" Hey, I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I have played while my son is in bed. I'm a single mother, do not have the luxury of having alternate weekends to myself as his dad has never been around. I also dont have easy access to sitters. I know my son is a deep sleeper and if he wasn't then I wouldn't. Its so easy for other people who have lots of free time to judge. Whilst not ideal and I've only done it a few times, its unfair to criticise because I do. All of our situations are very different!"

I'm the same a single mum with no dad or sitters available readily. Plus with me its the one guy and he's met my boy so in a way it's like he's a non live in BF in my sons eyes.

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By *oulou45Woman  over a year ago

Bucks

I'm lucky my daughter is grown up and married however my grandaughter loves comin to stay with me. When she does its our nite even when she goes to bed at 8pm. I couldn't have anyone here then ,however I won't judge others who do that's their business.

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

Hey, I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I have played while my son is in bed. I'm a single mother, do not have the luxury of having alternate weekends to myself as his dad has never been around. I also dont have easy access to sitters. I know my son is a deep sleeper and if he wasn't then I wouldn't. Its so easy for other people who have lots of free time to judge. Whilst not ideal and I've only done it a few times, its unfair to criticise because I do. All of our situations are very different!

Exactly, i would love to have an endless stream of sitters or a dad i could send mine to, but i dont. So hotels and going to others isn't an option, but i am entitled to a life, and i know my child is safe, asleep and there are no risks. "

I would not criticise anybody... Having had kids myself I appreciate the issues of finding suitable sitters. As I said, each to their own I just would choose not to meet in an environment where kids are about.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

Hey, I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I have played while my son is in bed. I'm a single mother, do not have the luxury of having alternate weekends to myself as his dad has never been around. I also dont have easy access to sitters. I know my son is a deep sleeper and if he wasn't then I wouldn't. Its so easy for other people who have lots of free time to judge. Whilst not ideal and I've only done it a few times, its unfair to criticise because I do. All of our situations are very different!

Exactly, i would love to have an endless stream of sitters or a dad i could send mine to, but i dont. So hotels and going to others isn't an option, but i am entitled to a life, and i know my child is safe, asleep and there are no risks. "

I'm sure those who judge us would be the first to speak up and disagree if people were to judge them about their "swinging lifestyle".

It seems we should wait until they have grown up and moved out before we are entitled to a sex life!

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


" Hey, I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I have played while my son is in bed. I'm a single mother, do not have the luxury of having alternate weekends to myself as his dad has never been around. I also dont have easy access to sitters. I know my son is a deep sleeper and if he wasn't then I wouldn't. Its so easy for other people who have lots of free time to judge. Whilst not ideal and I've only done it a few times, its unfair to criticise because I do. All of our situations are very different!

I'm the same a single mum with no dad or sitters available readily. Plus with me its the one guy and he's met my boy so in a way it's like he's a non live in BF in my sons eyes. "

See for me that is a bit different as there is an element of "stability" even if only in theory.

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

In general terms there is a big difference between answering a question like the one the OP put here and condemming somebody.

I would not criticise anybody for their life choices and provided there were no safeguarding issues as far as the kids are concerned then it is up to the individual. It is just I would not choose to meet in that environment!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's not something that we'd do at home or at someone elses. It's not at all like being caught with your partner - I just can't understand why it has to be done. Hotels or go to some one elses house - are options, Z"

I'm a single, working mother. I simply cannot afford a hotel!

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"It's not something that we'd do at home or at someone elses. It's not at all like being caught with your partner - I just can't understand why it has to be done. Hotels or go to some one elses house - are options, Z

I'm a single, working mother. I simply cannot afford a hotel!"

Fair enough, i would always put my children first regardless but each to their own. Z

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By *oulou45Woman  over a year ago

Bucks

I don't think anyone has the right to slate others. The 1 thing that makes me angry is when people go out and leave their children home alone. At least the people here aren,t doin that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's not something that we'd do at home or at someone elses. It's not at all like being caught with your partner - I just can't understand why it has to be done. Hotels or go to some one elses house - are options, Z

Sorry but how dare you suggest that I dont put my child first! You dont know me, you dont know anything about my life!!!!!

I'm a single, working mother. I simply cannot afford a hotel!

Fair enough, i would always put my children first regardless but each to their own. Z"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In general terms there is a big difference between answering a question like the one the OP put here and condemming somebody.

I would not criticise anybody for their life choices and provided there were no safeguarding issues as far as the kids are concerned then it is up to the individual. It is just I would not choose to meet in that environment! "

But you agreed with a poster who said that it was wrong on all levels??

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I think if all parties involved are happy and made aware then each to their own. If my daughter wasnt stealth child I would consider it

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"In general terms there is a big difference between answering a question like the one the OP put here and condemming somebody.

I would not criticise anybody for their life choices and provided there were no safeguarding issues as far as the kids are concerned then it is up to the individual. It is just I would not choose to meet in that environment!

But you agreed with a poster who said that it was wrong on all levels??"

I am agreeing with the statement that for me it would be wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I won't play when I have my son as one word to his mother that I was up to anything and I would lose contact with him but as I don't get him here very often as he is in Yorkshire it should never happen and as I can't accommodate due to house rules by my land lady and land lord I can only meet away from here

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


" Hey, I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I have played while my son is in bed. I'm a single mother, do not have the luxury of having alternate weekends to myself as his dad has never been around. I also dont have easy access to sitters. I know my son is a deep sleeper and if he wasn't then I wouldn't. Its so easy for other people who have lots of free time to judge. Whilst not ideal and I've only done it a few times, its unfair to criticise because I do. All of our situations are very different!

I'm the same a single mum with no dad or sitters available readily. Plus with me its the one guy and he's met my boy so in a way it's like he's a non live in BF in my sons eyes. See for me that is a bit different as there is an element of "stability" even if only in theory."

Yeah I think so. I have had a few blokes think I was a bit odd when I've said I can't meet due to having child care problems and they've said that's ok we will just come to you. Tried to get me to read their veri's etc to probe they are genuine. I told one that his veri's could say he was the male equivalent off their Theresa but he wouldn't be coming to my house with my boy in bed without me meeting him socially first. And even then if he woke or anything he'd be out the door. Lol x

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


" Hey, I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I have played while my son is in bed. I'm a single mother, do not have the luxury of having alternate weekends to myself as his dad has never been around. I also dont have easy access to sitters. I know my son is a deep sleeper and if he wasn't then I wouldn't. Its so easy for other people who have lots of free time to judge. Whilst not ideal and I've only done it a few times, its unfair to criticise because I do. All of our situations are very different!

I'm the same a single mum with no dad or sitters available readily. Plus with me its the one guy and he's met my boy so in a way it's like he's a non live in BF in my sons eyes. See for me that is a bit different as there is an element of "stability" even if only in theory.

Yeah I think so. I have had a few blokes think I was a bit odd when I've said I can't meet due to having child care problems and they've said that's ok we will just come to you. Tried to get me to read their veri's etc to probe they are genuine. I told one that his veri's could say he was the male equivalent off their Theresa but he wouldn't be coming to my house with my boy in bed without me meeting him socially first. And even then if he woke or anything he'd be out the door. Lol x "

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent

Of mother Theresa that should say x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

Thing is though being caught with a partner, no matter what the sex, is one thing being caught you down on a woman while her hubby is doggy styling you is another.

Well i only really meet single men, so it's not to much of an issue for me and if i was having a 3sum then would problably go for a hotel or if child was away.

Thats slightly different like you say. so no real issues

Also never accom all night that is one biggy for me, my child doesnt see anyone arrive or leave!! And always tell anyone who is coming that i have child here, its only fair. "

I understand you point.....well put....x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Young children are unpredictable - they could feel sick, have nightmares or just be restless and want their mum or dad.

Would you be so inconsiderate to others who have maybe set aside considerable time and expense when unforeseen child related events happen?

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


"Young children are unpredictable - they could feel sick, have nightmares or just be restless and want their mum or dad.

Would you be so inconsiderate to others who have maybe set aside considerable time and expense when unforeseen child related events happen?"

And that is why the only bloke I have here is well aware I have a son, has kids of his own, has had to cancel a meet because of them which I totally understood and would also be understanding if something like that happened x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Young children are unpredictable - they could feel sick, have nightmares or just be restless and want their mum or dad.

Would you be so inconsiderate to others who have maybe set aside considerable time and expense when unforeseen child related events happen?"

As i have always made anyone i meet aware of my situation they would be aware that this could happen, but then if i met in a hotel and it happened i would leave and they would still be in same position with their time and expence being wasted.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!"

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Young children are unpredictable - they could feel sick, have nightmares or just be restless and want their mum or dad.

Would you be so inconsiderate to others who have maybe set aside considerable time and expense when unforeseen child related events happen?"

No? Really? Children are sometimes sick and unpredictable, well who knew? The person I was meeting would know well in advance that I have a child so if the unpredictable occurred then that person would have to leave straight away. Their choice to play knowing that I have a child in bed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!"

Not pure ... just maybe have different personal circumstances or a family net / babysitter to help out occasionally. Later on won't the kids be wondering or asking about these people coming round?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Not pure ... just maybe have different personal circumstances or a family net / babysitter to help out occasionally. Later on won't the kids be wondering or asking about these people coming round?"

Not if they are fast asleep, which they are by 7pm and never have anyone round til after 8.30. Not even that often either mine have never seen anyone i have met and never will, as i said i don't accomm all night and if child was even slightly unsettled i would cancel and make that clear when i arrange to meet.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Not pure ... just maybe have different personal circumstances or a family net / babysitter to help out occasionally. Later on won't the kids be wondering or asking about these people coming round?"

Obviously when they are older, "these people" won't be coming round or do you think that us loose, slutty single moms would be fucking in the kitchen while their 10 year old was playing the Xbox? Please, show us at least an ounce of respect and accept that we do actually have some intelligence!

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more! "

Absolutely agree, I'm looking at this from our perspective as a couple meeting couples - it gets noisy and wouldn't be a great sight for a child to walk in on! Not exaclty the same as a couple having sex,we simply wouldn't be able to relax. Z

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!"
I can see where you are coming from. And just for me... I can say that during the approximately 10 years of my life when I was a single mum I never entertained anybody in my home unless they were a more permanent part of my life.

I just felt strongly that I did not want to put any more stress on my kids than I absolutely had to. But as I said before... that was just my concept of raising them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more!

Absolutely agree, I'm looking at this from our perspective as a couple meeting couples - it gets noisy and wouldn't be a great sight for a child to walk in on! Not exaclty the same as a couple having sex,we simply wouldn't be able to relax. Z"

And as i have already said i only meet 1on1 so not an issue for me, if was having 3sum wouldn't have mine in the house. It's not ideal, but im not gonna crack out the chastity belt for the next 10yrs thanks..

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Young children are unpredictable - they could feel sick, have nightmares or just be restless and want their mum or dad.

Would you be so inconsiderate to others who have maybe set aside considerable time and expense when unforeseen child related events happen?

No? Really? Children are sometimes sick and unpredictable, well who knew? The person I was meeting would know well in advance that I have a child so if the unpredictable occurred then that person would have to leave straight away. Their choice to play knowing that I have a child in bed.

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I dont think anybody was questioning your judgment to be fair and I am sure you do whatever is needed to protect your child. And yes, absolutely it is their choice to visit knowing their is a little one.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more!

Absolutely agree, I'm looking at this from our perspective as a couple meeting couples - it gets noisy and wouldn't be a great sight for a child to walk in on! Not exaclty the same as a couple having sex,we simply wouldn't be able to relax. Z

And as i have already said i only meet 1on1 so not an issue for me, if was having 3sum wouldn't have mine in the house. It's not ideal, but im not gonna crack out the chastity belt for the next 10yrs thanks.."

lol - i don't blame you, as i said i'm looking at this from my angle - lots of people and lots of noise! i suppose entertaining a chap isn't the same. Z

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more!

Absolutely agree, I'm looking at this from our perspective as a couple meeting couples - it gets noisy and wouldn't be a great sight for a child to walk in on! Not exaclty the same as a couple having sex,we simply wouldn't be able to relax. Z

And as i have already said i only meet 1on1 so not an issue for me, if was having 3sum wouldn't have mine in the house. It's not ideal, but im not gonna crack out the chastity belt for the next 10yrs thanks.."

I guess in a way that was what I was doing. Not quite tbh as I did have partners but not in my home. Just personal choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more!

Absolutely agree, I'm looking at this from our perspective as a couple meeting couples - it gets noisy and wouldn't be a great sight for a child to walk in on! Not exaclty the same as a couple having sex,we simply wouldn't be able to relax. Z

And as i have already said i only meet 1on1 so not an issue for me, if was having 3sum wouldn't have mine in the house. It's not ideal, but im not gonna crack out the chastity belt for the next 10yrs thanks.."

Well little Timmy is wide awake but I've decided to host an adult party tonight, people swinging off the cheap dunelm lampshades, the works! FFS I hope none of you ever get divorced and end up on your own!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Not pure ... just maybe have different personal circumstances or a family net / babysitter to help out occasionally. Later on won't the kids be wondering or asking about these people coming round?

Obviously when they are older, "these people" won't be coming round or do you think that us loose, slutty single moms would be fucking in the kitchen while their 10 year old was playing the Xbox? Please, show us at least an ounce of respect and accept that we do actually have some intelligence!"

I never cast aspersions on anyone and I am never disrespectful unless it is warranted in specific circumstances.. I merely described a "specific" instance that I would not find acceptable. You obviously feel the same so why are being so hostile?

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more!

Absolutely agree, I'm looking at this from our perspective as a couple meeting couples - it gets noisy and wouldn't be a great sight for a child to walk in on! Not exaclty the same as a couple having sex,we simply wouldn't be able to relax. Z

And as i have already said i only meet 1on1 so not an issue for me, if was having 3sum wouldn't have mine in the house. It's not ideal, but im not gonna crack out the chastity belt for the next 10yrs thanks..

Well little Timmy is wide awake but I've decided to host an adult party tonight, people swinging off the cheap dunelm lampshades, the works! FFS I hope none of you ever get divorced and end up on your own!!"

That is what I meant. I did end up on my own for about 10 years.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more!

Absolutely agree, I'm looking at this from our perspective as a couple meeting couples - it gets noisy and wouldn't be a great sight for a child to walk in on! Not exaclty the same as a couple having sex,we simply wouldn't be able to relax. Z

And as i have already said i only meet 1on1 so not an issue for me, if was having 3sum wouldn't have mine in the house. It's not ideal, but im not gonna crack out the chastity belt for the next 10yrs thanks..

Well little Timmy is wide awake but I've decided to host an adult party tonight, people swinging off the cheap dunelm lampshades, the works! FFS I hope none of you ever get divorced and end up on your own!!"

Lol can i come and bung mine on one of your bedroom floors just to add that lil extra bit of stress to their lives coz im responsible like that!! lol x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

thats a disgusting thought sorry but my opinion x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more!

Absolutely agree, I'm looking at this from our perspective as a couple meeting couples - it gets noisy and wouldn't be a great sight for a child to walk in on! Not exaclty the same as a couple having sex,we simply wouldn't be able to relax. Z

And as i have already said i only meet 1on1 so not an issue for me, if was having 3sum wouldn't have mine in the house. It's not ideal, but im not gonna crack out the chastity belt for the next 10yrs thanks..

Well little Timmy is wide awake but I've decided to host an adult party tonight, people swinging off the cheap dunelm lampshades, the works! FFS I hope none of you ever get divorced and end up on your own!!

Lol can i come and bung mine on one of your bedroom floors just to add that lil extra bit of stress to their lives coz im responsible like that!! lol x"

I'm obviously being sarcastic...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more!

Absolutely agree, I'm looking at this from our perspective as a couple meeting couples - it gets noisy and wouldn't be a great sight for a child to walk in on! Not exaclty the same as a couple having sex,we simply wouldn't be able to relax. Z

And as i have already said i only meet 1on1 so not an issue for me, if was having 3sum wouldn't have mine in the house. It's not ideal, but im not gonna crack out the chastity belt for the next 10yrs thanks..

Well little Timmy is wide awake but I've decided to host an adult party tonight, people swinging off the cheap dunelm lampshades, the works! FFS I hope none of you ever get divorced and end up on your own!!That is what I meant. I did end up on my own for about 10 years."

Well I've been on my own since being 4 months pregnant. My son is now 7. Until I joined this site 4 months ago, I could count on one hand the amount of times I had sex! Am I not entitled to a bit of fun?? Or should I wait until my knight in shining armour arrives?????

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

got a child in the house, dont meet people when he is in the house, that a rule

dont want my child seeing loads of different people in our house and thinking what going on, that why it is hard for people to meet with kids, well must be just me lol

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


"thats a disgusting thought sorry but my opinion x"

Which part??

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more!

Absolutely agree, I'm looking at this from our perspective as a couple meeting couples - it gets noisy and wouldn't be a great sight for a child to walk in on! Not exaclty the same as a couple having sex,we simply wouldn't be able to relax. Z

And as i have already said i only meet 1on1 so not an issue for me, if was having 3sum wouldn't have mine in the house. It's not ideal, but im not gonna crack out the chastity belt for the next 10yrs thanks..

Well little Timmy is wide awake but I've decided to host an adult party tonight, people swinging off the cheap dunelm lampshades, the works! FFS I hope none of you ever get divorced and end up on your own!!That is what I meant. I did end up on my own for about 10 years.

Well I've been on my own since being 4 months pregnant. My son is now 7. Until I joined this site 4 months ago, I could count on one hand the amount of times I had sex! Am I not entitled to a bit of fun?? Or should I wait until my knight in shining armour arrives?????"

For me personally, and of course I dont know your circumstances ect, but for me it was a choice of meeting people in their place. I dont do hotels for a number of reasons and I dont really do clubs either. It was a choice I made willingly as I felt so strongly about my kids and their welfare. Now before anybody feels the need to jump on me for stating that... I really did make that sacrifice in want of a better word.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"got a child in the house, dont meet people when he is in the house, that a rule

dont want my child seeing loads of different people in our house and thinking what going on, that why it is hard for people to meet with kids, well must be just me lol "

My child doesn't see lots of different people coming to my house! Seriously, what do you take me for?

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By *coobyroo218Couple  over a year ago

Guernsey

A single woman entertaining a single guy/woman at their home is completely different to a couple entertaining another single or couple.

If a single wants to enjoy another person whilst the kids are there that is fine as that is an everyday occurance sort of for a kid to see two people together.

Explaining to said kid walking in on you and another is easily explained.

Trying to explain to a kid that walks in seeing mummy sucking another guy whilst daddy is taking mummy from behind with another woman sucking on mummies tits is a whole different ball game.

I have been with women in my past where a kid has walked in and its easily explained in a ways the kid will understand by mummy but I doubt it would have been as easy with the scenario above.

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!

Missing the point, no one is judging, but come on, having a one on one with a partner is slightly different to having 3sum or more!

Absolutely agree, I'm looking at this from our perspective as a couple meeting couples - it gets noisy and wouldn't be a great sight for a child to walk in on! Not exaclty the same as a couple having sex,we simply wouldn't be able to relax. Z

And as i have already said i only meet 1on1 so not an issue for me, if was having 3sum wouldn't have mine in the house. It's not ideal, but im not gonna crack out the chastity belt for the next 10yrs thanks..

Well little Timmy is wide awake but I've decided to host an adult party tonight, people swinging off the cheap dunelm lampshades, the works! FFS I hope none of you ever get divorced and end up on your own!!That is what I meant. I did end up on my own for about 10 years.

Well I've been on my own since being 4 months pregnant. My son is now 7. Until I joined this site 4 months ago, I could count on one hand the amount of times I had sex! Am I not entitled to a bit of fun?? Or should I wait until my knight in shining armour arrives?????For me personally, and of course I dont know your circumstances ect, but for me it was a choice of meeting people in their place. I dont do hotels for a number of reasons and I dont really do clubs either. It was a choice I made willingly as I felt so strongly about my kids and their welfare. Now before anybody feels the need to jump on me for stating that... I really did make that sacrifice in want of a better word.

"

So are you suggesting that my I dont put my Childs welfare first or give it a second thought?

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

some people don't agree with cheating and playing with a cheater and say so.

some people don't agree with people playing with kids in the house and say so.

there really is no point getting all angst, just do it,...

it is words on an internet site, indignation is all a bit twee

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By *ummy mummyWoman  over a year ago

southampton-ish

I am now in the situation that my ex is refusing to have the kids over night (I had the nerve to ha've the csa chase him after 5 years to support his 3 kids) so my sexlife is at a standstill-unless I meet daytime when they are in school, but with my kids being 7. And 5...no way I would have someone round while they are in bed

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent

I think there are too many variables in these circumstances to say wether its acceptable or not.

My son still sleeps in his cot, can't get out unless I get him out, so would only be able to hear things which he could quite easily of heard if I were doing those things with his dad if he still lived here. He has stayed the night and they were even kicking a football around my living room Thursday morning. I don't get the chance to meet anyone else for a good while so its not like he's gonna see different blokes in and out I'd never let that happen. X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I hope none of you ever get d*unk in front of your children, or let slip a swear word, argue with your partner in front of kids????

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am now in the situation that my ex is refusing to have the kids over night (I had the nerve to ha've the csa chase him after 5 years to support his 3 kids) so my sexlife is at a standstill-unless I meet daytime when they are in school, but with my kids being 7. And 5...no way I would have someone round while they are in bed"

I work full time, hence no daytime meets!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"some people don't agree with cheating and playing with a cheater and say so.

some people don't agree with people playing with kids in the house and say so.

there really is no point getting all angst, just do it,...

it is words on an internet site, indignation is all a bit twee"

You are a regular contributor to the forums so if it is just words on the internet, why do you bother commenting on posts?

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By *coobyroo218Couple  over a year ago

Guernsey


"I hope none of you ever get d*unk in front of your children, or let slip a swear word, argue with your partner in front of kids????"

You said before you only meet one on one, I take it from that a single guy and not a couple.

If that is the case then its no different to you meeting a guy at work and bringing him home one evening, many many people do that and it is quite acceptable for this to happen of course it is.

I think all us couples are just looking at it from a couples point of _iew.

I am sure you would do things differently if you wanted to have three guys round with a few couples too?? would you not???

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"I hope none of you ever get d*unk in front of your children, or let slip a swear word, argue with your partner in front of kids????"

Grow up! Z

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"I hope none of you ever get d*unk in front of your children, or let slip a swear word, argue with your partner in front of kids????

You said before you only meet one on one, I take it from that a single guy and not a couple.

If that is the case then its no different to you meeting a guy at work and bringing him home one evening, many many people do that and it is quite acceptable for this to happen of course it is.

I think all us couples are just looking at it from a couples point of _iew.

I am sure you would do things differently if you wanted to have three guys round with a few couples too?? would you not???"

Exactly! Well put! Z

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"some people don't agree with cheating and playing with a cheater and say so.

some people don't agree with people playing with kids in the house and say so.

there really is no point getting all angst, just do it,...

it is words on an internet site, indignation is all a bit twee

You are a regular contributor to the forums so if it is just words on the internet, why do you bother commenting on posts?

"

your point is what

I am not indignant that people have a different opinion from me, I never am.

if on a bi guy thread, a married man thread or an X Factor thread...

and as I said.... if you want to fuck guys in your house whilst your child is asleep..... go for it

your need to justify yourself to strangers and then getting pissy is laughable.

Your choice to do as you wish in your own home.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

my sons grown up so doesnt affect me.

i think its ok as long as you dont neglect your child. you would have to be quiet and only have people over for an hour maybe.

my son never used to leave his room once he was in bed only very rarely if he had a nightmare.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"some people don't agree with cheating and playing with a cheater and say so.

some people don't agree with people playing with kids in the house and say so.

there really is no point getting all angst, just do it,...

it is words on an internet site, indignation is all a bit twee

You are a regular contributor to the forums so if it is just words on the internet, why do you bother commenting on posts?

your point is what

I am not indignant that people have a different opinion from me, I never am.

if on a bi guy thread, a married man thread or an X Factor thread...

and as I said.... if you want to fuck guys in your house whilst your child is asleep..... go for it

your need to justify yourself to strangers and then getting pissy is laughable.

Your choice to do as you wish in your own home."

I dont need to justify myself, I'm trying to get my opinion across as I have done in bi men, married men threads. If I come across as pissy and laughable in the meantime, I really couldn't care less! But people who make sarcastic comments on people having a strong opinion on a certain subject also comes across as pissy and laughable because if you didnt have an opinion on any thread, then why would you post?

IF I feel strongly enough about a subject then I will always voice my opinion. Ooops, just pissed myself as I laughed!

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"some people don't agree with cheating and playing with a cheater and say so.

some people don't agree with people playing with kids in the house and say so.

there really is no point getting all angst, just do it,...

it is words on an internet site, indignation is all a bit twee

You are a regular contributor to the forums so if it is just words on the internet, why do you bother commenting on posts?

your point is what

I am not indignant that people have a different opinion from me, I never am.

if on a bi guy thread, a married man thread or an X Factor thread...

and as I said.... if you want to fuck guys in your house whilst your child is asleep..... go for it

your need to justify yourself to strangers and then getting pissy is laughable.

Your choice to do as you wish in your own home.

I dont need to justify myself, I'm trying to get my opinion across as I have done in bi men, married men threads. If I come across as pissy and laughable in the meantime, I really couldn't care less! But people who make sarcastic comments on people having a strong opinion on a certain subject also comes across as pissy and laughable because if you didnt have an opinion on any thread, then why would you post?

IF I feel strongly enough about a subject then I will always voice my opinion. Ooops, just pissed myself as I laughed!"

enjoy your swinging and posting

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who has accommodated whilst child/children in bed? We never have and have always said we wouldn't. Just wondered others _iews? "

I would never accomodate whilst there were kids in the house, whether they were asleep or not. I care too much about my kids to ever put them in a possible situation where they might walk in on something.

I only meet away from home. If something happened and home was my only option then I just wouldn't meet. My sex life is not more important than my kids.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who has accommodated whilst child/children in bed? We never have and have always said we wouldn't. Just wondered others _iews?

I would never accomodate whilst there were kids in the house, whether they were asleep or not. I care too much about my kids to ever put them in a possible situation where they might walk in on something.

I only meet away from home. If something happened and home was my only option then I just wouldn't meet. My sex life is not more important than my kids."

Ok, if its your choice to not do it, great. If its my choice to do it, great but why are you suggesting that because I do, I dont care about my kid enough? There have been a lot of posts where people have said "I put my kids first, their welfare is more important". That's what puts my hackles up, it suggests that I dont do any of those things and that is totally unfair!

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By * starr -Woman  over a year ago

Burton on Trent.

those with children who DO accom:

BE VERY CAREFUL SOCIAL SERVICES DONT FIND OUT.

IT CAN BE DISASTEROUS IF THEY DO!!!!

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


"those with children who DO accom:

BE VERY CAREFUL SOCIAL SERVICES DONT FIND OUT.

IT CAN BE DISASTEROUS IF THEY DO!!!!

"

Really?? What experiance or examples do you know of this happening? X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

God forbid social services find out i have sex!!! what would they think? that i was a normal healthy adult maybe!!

now if i was having orgies or running a knocking shop i might worry but as i have occasional sex with single men i think i have nothing to worry about!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"those with children who DO accom:

BE VERY CAREFUL SOCIAL SERVICES DONT FIND OUT.

IT CAN BE DISASTEROUS IF THEY DO!!!!

"

Oh please, there would have to be a number of other factors involved. I worked in family law until very recently and I've seen the worst drug adficts/prostitutes keep their kids.

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By *inkershoes69Woman  over a year ago

maidstone


"Who has accommodated whilst child/children in bed? We never have and have always said we wouldn't. Just wondered others _iews?

I would never accomodate whilst there were kids in the house, whether they were asleep or not. I care too much about my kids to ever put them in a possible situation where they might walk in on something.

I only meet away from home. If something happened and home was my only option then I just wouldn't meet. My sex life is not more important than my kids."

totally agree

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"those with children who DO accom:

BE VERY CAREFUL SOCIAL SERVICES DONT FIND OUT.

IT CAN BE DISASTEROUS IF THEY DO!!!!

Oh please, there would have to be a number of other factors involved. I worked in family law until very recently and I've seen the worst drug adficts/prostitutes keep their kids. "

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

not fully connected but I knew one female who split from her ex, he loaded spyware on her laptop and was able to supply social services with all her chat logs from the chatroom & meet arrangements

her 3 children were removed from her and allowed to live fulltime with the father... not exclusive to meets but the fact that they were able to identify what times she was logged on chatting and her kids were not in bed and maybe exposed to her giving more attention to the other site than her kids.. one of the sons told the father he had seen a flash of a guy on cam.

not totally the same but social services may take a dim _iew

to be fair, she got her children back but it took about 6 weeks and many meetings with social workers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was with a couple and just getting down and dirty and male half said he will make sure child is asleep. This made my willy droop more than a willow tree.

I just got up and left if they had said they had child there i would not have gone. Not impressed.

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By * starr -Woman  over a year ago

Burton on Trent.


"those with children who DO accom:

BE VERY CAREFUL SOCIAL SERVICES DONT FIND OUT.

IT CAN BE DISASTEROUS IF THEY DO!!!!

Oh please, there would have to be a number of other factors involved. I worked in family law until very recently and I've seen the worst drug adficts/prostitutes keep their kids. "

try telling my social worker that then!!

i did EVERYTHING them bastards asked of me, but still it happened to ME.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was with a couple and just getting down and dirty and male half said he will make sure child is asleep. This made my willy droop more than a willow tree.

I just got up and left if they had said they had child there i would not have gone. Not impressed."

And this is why i am 100% up front about the fact that i have a young child asleep in the house, but i have never been refused a meet because of it, most men are mature enough to realise that this is life, people have children and i have obviously taken all precautions to make sure my child would not see us, and being a loving responsible parent i have made sure that my child is asleep and safe.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"those with children who DO accom:

BE VERY CAREFUL SOCIAL SERVICES DONT FIND OUT.

IT CAN BE DISASTEROUS IF THEY DO!!!!

So social services removed your kids because you occasionally had sex at home with single men? And really, if that was the case, why are you still on a swinging site?

Oh please, there would have to be a number of other factors involved. I worked in family law until very recently and I've seen the worst drug adficts/prostitutes keep their kids.

try telling my social worker that then!!

i did EVERYTHING them bastards asked of me, but still it happened to ME. "

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By *coobyroo218Couple  over a year ago

Guernsey


"Who has accommodated whilst child/children in bed? We never have and have always said we wouldn't. Just wondered others _iews?

I would never accomodate whilst there were kids in the house, whether they were asleep or not. I care too much about my kids to ever put them in a possible situation where they might walk in on something.

I only meet away from home. If something happened and home was my only option then I just wouldn't meet. My sex life is not more important than my kids.

Ok, if its your choice to not do it, great. If its my choice to do it, great but why are you suggesting that because I do, I dont care about my kid enough? There have been a lot of posts where people have said "I put my kids first, their welfare is more important". That's what puts my hackles up, it suggests that I dont do any of those things and that is totally unfair!"

I do not think anyone has pointed the finger at you and said them things.

People have had an opinion about it which is fair as everyone has an opinion.

If you take great care with your kids good on you, and what you do in your personal life is your business but again I do not think anyone has said you personally are wrong for doing it.

If you read my post before you would have seen that its mostly couples that have the opinion it should not happen

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

"

couldnt agree more ..i have 3 kids but only one living with me permanently at the moment and she is nearly 3 ..she has a baby gate so cant get out of her room even if she did wake but she can sleep for england .

it is hard being a single parent and lets face it if you think there is going to be plenty of screams the there are always gags or ducktape :P

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was with a couple and just getting down and dirty and male half said he will make sure child is asleep. This made my willy droop more than a willow tree.

I just got up and left if they had said they had child there i would not have gone. Not impressed.

And this is why i am 100% up front about the fact that i have a young child asleep in the house, but i have never been refused a meet because of it, most men are mature enough to realise that this is life, people have children and i have obviously taken all precautions to make sure my child would not see us, and being a loving responsible parent i have made sure that my child is asleep and safe. "

You hit the nail on the head there as you are upfront and honest about it therefore allowing an informed decision being reached. Sadly the couple involved were the opposite of yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

couldnt agree more ..i have 3 kids but only one living with me permanently at the moment and she is nearly 3 ..she has a baby gate so cant get out of her room even if she did wake but she can sleep for england .

it is hard being a single parent and lets face it if you think there is going to be plenty of screams the there are always gags or ducktape :P"

prefer a hand or kiss to stop noise, duck tape is a bit harsh when ripped off, but good hair removal..lol x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

ill come give you a kiss and a hugg and leave my ducktape at home

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"ill come give you a kiss and a hugg and leave my ducktape at home "

oooo really? maybe a lil bit of ducktape unless you have cuffs? lol

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!"

My two youngest live with me: 21 and 25. They would sleep through the second coming, but I would never entertain a stranger in my home whilst my girls are here.

I meet during the day or at my playmates home, a fuck will never cause me to put my children at risk, no matter how minor that may be, and they're adults!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have done. I currently don't due to having a 14 year old at home now. But before I would. I have a lock on my bedroom door and have know my children will stay in bed

As I'm only doing group plays currently I am only meeting at clubs. But I don't really have k problem with it.

I think you know your children well enough to know what is right for your children.

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"those with children who DO accom:

BE VERY CAREFUL SOCIAL SERVICES DONT FIND OUT.

IT CAN BE DISASTEROUS IF THEY DO!!!!

"

I got reported to social services and they did nothing. They spoke with me and were happy that there is no risk to the children. I was actually reported for gang bangs but I never did that in the house with kids in it.

They asked me about the master slave side too and again were satisfied that no harm came to my kids

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We have done this on several occasions.we are lucky that when kids in bed they never get up and have many a goodnight while they been asleep lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i gotta say its shocking having a meet while your kids are upstairs would never ever do it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who has accommodated whilst child/children in bed? We never have and have always said we wouldn't. Just wondered others _iews?

We wouldn't invite total strangers into our house with children sleeping upstairs but that's us others have other _iews and that's their choice. "

our choice too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When Im being mummy, Im Mummy.

When Im playing, my children are safely on sleepovers.

Too risky and too painful to be caught by them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i dont like to and only do as a last resort. i luckily have a child that sleeps for wales. the other day i couldnt find where hed left my phone after borrowing it and it took me 15 minues to wake him up! coupled with a lock on the door and the unfortunate consideration of reduced noise its ok for a quick late meet but i prefer to play away

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't accomOdate this isn't just my home it's my kids home too and I just feel personally it would be disrespectful to be inviting guys back all the time, first night I ever met a guy I was seeing stay over and my wee girl was up taking an asthma attack luckily she had met him more than a few times before then could you imagine her finding a strange guy in my bed !

I know a guy from my work who was playing with a woman with four kids and he was taking a few guys from work over to play, they were all talking about it a few days later one of the guys was saying he thought it was great till there was a knock at the living room door one of the kids asking for a drink he hasn't known the kids were in the house and by this point they'd all been drinking and couldn't drive home, he said he was disgusted by it and started to get dressed the woman said its cool I do this all the time the kids know they're not allowed in when I've got company !!! Needless to say the guys were all pretty with the one who organised it as he knew and apparently wasn't bothered as he'd met the kids a few times in the mornings after he had stayed over

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't accomOdate this isn't just my home it's my kids home too and I just feel personally it would be disrespectful to be inviting guys back all the time, first night I ever met a guy I was seeing stay over and my wee girl was up taking an asthma attack luckily she had met him more than a few times before then could you imagine her finding a strange guy in my bed !

I know a guy from my work who was playing with a woman with four kids and he was taking a few guys from work over to play, they were all talking about it a few days later one of the guys was saying he thought it was great till there was a knock at the living room door one of the kids asking for a drink he hasn't known the kids were in the house and by this point they'd all been drinking and couldn't drive home, he said he was disgusted by it and started to get dressed the woman said its cool I do this all the time the kids know they're not allowed in when I've got company !!! Needless to say the guys were all pretty with the one who organised it as he knew and apparently wasn't bothered as he'd met the kids a few times in the mornings after he had stayed over "

*Let the guy I was seeing stay over

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i gotta say its shocking having a meet while your kids are upstairs would never ever do it. "

See I see it as no different to having a friend over or a boy friend over. My kids have never been aware of what I do. I do happen to have my bedroom downstairs. I used to meet at my house weekly. Now I have my middle daughter back home I am not because she is older and doesn't sleep well

Before she came back I was happy to on a regular basis because my kids wouldn't wake due to variety of things. I never ever have a child free night.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


"i gotta say its shocking having a meet while your kids are upstairs would never ever do it. "

You can't generalise like that, there's lots of different circumstances.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who has accommodated whilst child/children in bed? We never have and have always said we wouldn't. Just wondered others _iews? "

I've met a few ladies while kids have been in bed, it's never been a problem.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree with what people are saying, in respect to no different if with partner or husband.

I personally wouldn't meet if my child was a home. She's 13 and nosy lol.

Though cant see, if a child is a baby, for example, what the issue would be, other than crying if it was too wake up.

As long as everyone involved knows kids are in the house, then surely that's their choice to play or not.

No one knows their kids like themselves

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


"I agree with what people are saying, in respect to no different if with partner or husband.

I personally wouldn't meet if my child was a home. She's 13 and nosy lol.

Though cant see, if a child is a baby, for example, what the issue would be, other than crying if it was too wake up.

As long as everyone involved knows kids are in the house, then surely that's their choice to play or not.

No one knows their kids like themselves"

Exactly!! I have a 21 month old son, he sleeps in his cot and can't get out without me picking him up, the only guy I allow back to mine I met socially first and he came back when my boy was at his nans for the night so I knew he was sound. He has kids himself and knows the score. So I don't see that its a problem.

Obviously when he's older Ill have to rethink. X

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By *inktherapyCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"So it seems that almost all of fab have never had sex in their homes while children are there unless they are happily married and in firm relationship, never a one night stand, never a boyfriend or fuck buddy, wow must be great to be so pure!!"

Can honestly say that the only people we've had sex with in our own house (with/ without children here) has been each other. Wouldn't say we're pure, but would never meet anyone where a child was sleeping - have turned down lots of meets for that very reason. To me it is wrong, plain and simple.

Replying to other posts on the thread where a single mother has problems finding a sitter/ the child doesn't go to their dad's - not sure what's different to a couple with children who have problems finding a sitter?? I just wouldn't do it, ever.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would never invite anyone back to my house while my kids was at home, i have also truned down meet from people inviting me to theirs while their kids are in bed, i show all children the same respect if its wrong for me to do it with my kids in bed its wrong for me to do it while other peoples kids are in bed, im not a sod you mine are ok type person

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Funny thing is I wouldn't play with someone whose kids were in the house. Not because I think it's wrong but simply because I'm confident that my children won't wake. And can not get in.

I would be so sure of other people's

I would bring a regular guy back late at night or after a club visit when kids are here.

But I'm only doing group play currently so only meeting at clubs anyway x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I (mrs) have only ever played once with a couple that had a child in the house.

NEVER again was told the little one never woke up......

I just managed to get behind their bedroom door as it opened with a tiny tot stood their rubbing her eyes asking for a drink.

We would NEVER have anyone in our house to play as we have little ones.

If we don't have a baby sitter so we can go out we just don't play.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i have a 18 and 20 year old daughters so i wouldnt bring guys back here they to much competition for me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I had a meet a few years ago went to the loo and sat there was a small person sort of killed the night

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its a NO got a kids myself and would never play while they were with me of would never visit anyone with kids in house. we dont all have our brains in our bollocks !

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By *mileyBWoman  over a year ago

Northwood

yes I think this is a definite no no.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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good i'm glad you agree there are some weirdos on here who think its ok when kid are around. x

That's a bit judgemental, how does it make them " weirdos"?

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By *mileyBWoman  over a year ago

Northwood


"I'm ready to be slatted!! i have young child, and play in my home, they have never ever woken up and i do have small lock on lounge door!!

But i dont see that it is any different to if i was in a relationship, does it mean that anyone who has a non live in partner cannot have sex in their own home?

or that i can only have sex with a partner once my child has met them? no of course not, i think it is down to each parent to decide as they know their children better than anyone.

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For married coulples with children yes it is different because it's normal for Mummy and Dady to either be in bed together or be affectionate or inimate with each other if stumbled upon. Even in that situation being caught at it has it's problems.

If you're a single parent then I think most would be cautious who they let into thier home, how they behave and what precautions they take. Some single Mum's I know just wouldn't go there and others have a set of rules they stick to.

I think what we're talking about is a full on group sesh which I'm pleased to see that most of us, albeit a little wild are still a moralistic lot and would deem this to be a no go area.

And yes the noise issue alone would be prohibitive LOL

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

exactly thank you _mileyb. x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Most I've done at home was a 3sum with two guys I'd met before.

It was after 10pm. So quite happy that kids were asleep.

Group play I used to do at home in the day but now I find it easier to play at clubs x

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman  over a year ago

Deviant City

As a 10 year old child, I woke for the toilet to hear lots of voices and giggling and other noises. Now I was aware at such a young age that my parents had sex.....but hearing lots of people, I sneaked downstairs as I was curious and saw mum, dad and 2 other women, with my dad begging to be whipped and all were naked and getting rather steamy.

As a young child, I couldn't get my head around this and I ended up with huge psychological issues throughout my teens because of what I saw and heard after on several occasions. Luckily my brothers and sisters were too young and were better sleepers than myself.

This is the only reason I have chosen to not play at home. I have been single 7 years and gone without sex. Only since my 13 year old son has been spending more time at his dads, that I felt I could indulge in some adult fun.

This is just MY PERSONAL REASONS and it it works for you to have your meets at home, thats fine. Just sharing my experience. All it took was a visit to the toilet.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"we have played downstairs a few times whilst the baby is a sleep upstairs"

We have once as our toddler is in a cot, no escape for her. We prefer having a sitter though

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


"exactly thank you _mileyb. x "

Not quite sure what your thanking _mileyb for she hardly agreed with your sweeping statement. Lol

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By *ombshellWoman  over a year ago

islington

has never had a meet when my children have been at home, tho once i did almost get caught when my daughter had a row with her nan and came home, luckily we were in the kitchen having coffee when she burst in the door but my god...i was mortified!

not sure what i would have done if she had burs in an hour later ....

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent


"has never had a meet when my children have been at home, tho once i did almost get caught when my daughter had a row with her nan and came home, luckily we were in the kitchen having coffee when she burst in the door but my god...i was mortified!

not sure what i would have done if she had burs in an hour later .... "

Oh crikey!! I only do now with one psrticukar guy who I've seen a few times and my son is in his cot so its not a problem x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have only had a couple of meets with the kid /baby asleep up stairs. both times i have been told and we stayed in a room with a lock on the door.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hope none of you ever get d*unk in front of your children, or let slip a swear word, argue with your partner in front of kids????"

Anyone that gets d*unk, like stupidly d*unk around there children should get a sitter.... Same if your child can get out of bed. We met a couple and our daughter was in her cot (sleeps like a rock, and can only get out if one of us gets her) and I'd have no problem with tending to her needs before my own sexual needs. This was always going to be a highly opinionated thread. Lets hope people don't read things the wrong way....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

3 yr ago we ad a social meet and ad no sitter as av disabled kids noone wud sit for

This was only a meal couple seemed nice and before we knew it they were turning up at our house x box games sweets toys we knocked it on head as they were not normal

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"As a 10 year old child, I woke for the toilet to hear lots of voices and giggling and other noises. Now I was aware at such a young age that my parents had sex.....but hearing lots of people, I sneaked downstairs as I was curious and saw mum, dad and 2 other women, with my dad begging to be whipped and all were naked and getting rather steamy.

As a young child, I couldn't get my head around this and I ended up with huge psychological issues throughout my teens because of what I saw and heard after on several occasions. Luckily my brothers and sisters were too young and were better sleepers than myself.

This is the only reason I have chosen to not play at home. I have been single 7 years and gone without sex. Only since my 13 year old son has been spending more time at his dads, that I felt I could indulge in some adult fun.

This is just MY PERSONAL REASONS and it it works for you to have your meets at home, thats fine. Just sharing my experience. All it took was a visit to the toilet."

I cannot even begin to imagine what this must have been like for you - it is one of those things that "should never happen" in theory and yet it can happen. One of several reasons why I would not play anywhere near youngsters.

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By *b430Man  over a year ago

Tayside

Some people will, some people won't!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its not something we generally think about, as we don't have kids and generally play at ours or a club.

We have met a few couples at there house though.

Does everyone discuss children and sitting arrangements before a meet?

TBH Its not something we have ever thought to ask.

We need to remember for next time though to ask, Do you have kids, what arrangements have you made?

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