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Question for non-black fab members

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

So, I pos(t)ed a question on here a couple days ago directed towards black men, and now I’m flipping it for non-black fab members (male and female) to hear more of their perspective on it.

The question:

‘How do you feel about non-black fab members using the term ‘BBC’ as well as those who fetishise black men? Also, how do you feel about events catered towards [typically white] women who enjoy sex with black men?

No right or wrong answers – I just want to see where you stand with it.’

Black members feel free to chime in, but this is mainly to hear how non-black members feel about it. Hopefully an honest, healthy debate.

See the forum title ‘For My Fellow Black Men Only’ for original context of this post.

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By *ountry PeaksCouple over a year ago

In The Surrey Hills

To generalise the term, it’s akin to an interest, like dogging watersports etc something some like but others don’t.

We’d not be interested in those events, nor would we contact couples/ ladies looking for that, as they’d be disappointed as I don’t have a ‘BBC’ to offer them/her.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

It's not really up to me to decide if a black person should feel fetishised.

But do cringe a bit at people talking about 'trying a BBC' or similar, as if it's a dish at a restaurant.

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By *etwifeandhim69Couple over a year ago

Darlington

We don't meet single guys let alone guys due to their ethnicity.

As far as we are concerned, people are people and we treat them as such. Not into objectifying someone because of their gender, skin colour / ethnicity etc. We just know what we like and what we don't on the scene and those things have nothing to do with someone's skin tone. Dont care if you're white, black, asian, or painted your self green for the evening. If the mutual attracting is there, it's there. If it's not it's not.

What we have seen over the years however IS that some with fetishize others other their ethnicity. Years ago we had a public photo from a house party that featured a back guy in it. We actually got messages from a few local people asking about him and who he was. Zero interest in us, just wanting to know who he was because they wanted a "black guy".

Seen similar things with a lady from Singapore. Everyone went after her on the night because she was "different and exotic".

Now I don't know what to think in the grand scheme of it. We live in a predominantly white area (scene wise) and we keep things pretty local-ish anyway so maybe that explained somethings but ultimately not into the whole thing of boiling people down to their skin colours and / or genital sizes for meets. We're not the ones on the receiving end of it and we are not the ones engaging in that behaviour either. It's about how you feel. I would imagine some guys like that attention just as some don't. Only thing you can really do on here is filter out and block those you do find offensive or just avoid individual's and couples you feel are fetishizing you because of it. Ultimately, "BBC" is so widely used in porn it's unlikely to ever go away.

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By *icentiousCouple over a year ago

Up on them there hills

To us it feels like a marketing strap line.

Works for some, yet gives us the feeling of commodity.

We all have different perspectives.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wouldn't use the term "BBC" personally, and I cringe a bit when others do.

If I'm meeting someone it's because I like them and we have some kind of connection, not because of their skin colour.

I can't speak to how it makes black men feel, I imagine some are fine with it and others aren't, I don't use the term because it isn't important to me, it isn't a factor in my attraction to a person and from my perspective it seems quite dehumanising.

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By *ohn KanakaMan over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

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By *ohn KanakaMan over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

Each to their own but its not something I like and while I tend to be cynical I'm confident that people that market themselves as BBC or seeking a BBC aren't people on the same page as me. If the first thing someone wants to highlight is that they are black and have a big cock (same as literally hundreds of other people on here) then to be blunt I'm bored already.

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By *MisschiefxTV/TS over a year ago

London

I don't like it for the same reasons stated in the other post. I'm interested in the person not the race.

I ignore messages that say anything like "You like BBC?" I find fetishism of race off-putting.

If I like you and you happen to be black, cool let's fuck, but it's not because you're black.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have to keep reminding myself what BBC means whenever I come across it...

It's disappointing alot of the time, I get it it's a preference, but then I've met women who have tried 'BBC' and have not been impressed and prefer other 'shades' of men.

As soon as I read it on the profile I just skip the rest, since they probably won't be interested in my pasty white arse

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

As there's no right or wrong answers, just like the other other thread.

And at risk of being labelled a "fragile white male in defence mode" as they "just don’t get it, do they? Missing the point on purpose" by yourself.....

The Newsreader on the Beeb right now is brilliant, everyone should watch it.

(Well done on making this inclusive OP)

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By *riving_Home_For_MimiWoman over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

I'm not a fan of anyone being fetishised for their colour, ethnicity, size, age, if they're a parent or not... There's just no need for the labels.

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By *entDomMan over a year ago

Paddock Wood, Kent

I think it is 'racist' to generalise anyone on the basis of skin colour. Whether it's negative or positive surely. To say all black men have big cocks is a generalisation based on the colour of their skin. It's like saying for instance that black men can't swim. Both statements are clearly not true.

I could go on...

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By *risxbrisxMan over a year ago

Bristol

I don't really watch the BBC so can't comment, I mainly watch Netflix shows.

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By *ealitybitesMan over a year ago

Belfast

People are free to use whatever terms they want but I've no interest in men but any profile that uses colour or ethnicity as it's usp holds no appeal in the same way I've no interest in any profile that uses size or bodyshape as their tagline.

It might appeal to some and obviously does but it just makes me pass on by.

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By *afksedMan over a year ago

Birmingham

Ok, so I’m a white, Northern European looking causation man. And I’m a progressive.

I have never really seen colour in a general sense, though I am very aware of colour in a contextual historical sense.

I find black women incredibly attractive aesthetically as well as the other ways in which all women are attractive. But I would never “seek a black woman” since this is disrespectful.

The idea of a BBC is slightly different. The term is loaded with racial stereotypes and negative history. The term is reductive and bestial. A person who seeks a BBC is (generally) not black themselves and are seeking the stereotype of a black cock rather than the human man attached to it. The S trade was about dehumanisation. The term BBC cannot be wholly disentangled from its association with the trade.

Yes, I feel the same way about BBBW.

No, I do not just hate acronyms.

No, I am not jealous of well endowed men!

Yes, I have been in serious relationships a with black women.

Yes, I know a lot of black people have no issue with the term.

I feel that if you are white and intent on using the term BBC to describe who you are looking for you should at l_ast make yourself aware of its racial connotations. Especially if you are white and completely dumbfounded by what I have just written.

"So, I pos(t)ed a question on here a couple days ago directed towards black men, and now I’m flipping it for non-black fab members (male and female) to hear more of their perspective on it.

The question:

No right or wrong answers – I just want to see where you stand with it.’

Black members feel free to chime in, but this is mainly to hear how non-black members feel about it. Hopefully an honest, healthy debate.

See the forum title ‘For My Fellow Black Men Only’ for original context of this post."

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By *aughtycp1Couple over a year ago

Leicestershire

Mrs N here. I find black guys very sexy. That is how I say it. I don't like reducing people to simply body parts. Yes I do find large black cocks extremely sexy to look at. So you could say I like a BBC. But I would never refer to a person as a BBC.

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By *ee And MikeCouple over a year ago

Cannock

We are contacted on a regular basis by black guys that state either in their profile or as part of their message that they are BBC.

If they want to use that term that’s fine, we aren’t going to be offended on their behalf, which is problem with the world at the moment, everyone seems to want to get offended on other peoples behalf’s, like it makes them a far superior person !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP. what's your thoughts on these responses?.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Were not bothered one way or the other.

Its a useful expression I suppose if your angle is that your black and have a big cock or are specifically looking for that.

Lets face it, its a pretty clear description lol, certainly one that doesn't leave any ambiguity.

Mrs only gripe is the number of guys contacting us on fab offering BBC, as it's something that doesn't interest her which is a shame

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

each to their own, if the man on the end of the cock is happy to call himself that then I trust he's an adult and can make that decision for himself

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

we dont see race/skin colour we just see hot people who tickle our fancy or not ... i avoid bbc just as i would bwc dont get me started on QOS ... maybe because i (mrs) was brought up in the west midlands where all my friends were white black and asian and no doubt others too ... i just dont see skin colour and totally repect other cultures and ways of life ...i was never home as a kid / teen i was alway eating the food at my friends as it was amazing then they would all pile at ours for the traditional ''roast'' great times great people

sorry went off topic at the end a little

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By *r_PinkMan over a year ago

london stratford

I prefer Chanel 4 myself

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Each to their own as always in life I guess? If someone wants to refer to themselves as such that's absolutely their own choice of course. Personally the only thing that has jarred with me is if someone has messaged me and stated 'I don't know if you're even into/receptive to black guys?'... And I do absolutely get that the person is just putting that out there... However, from my perspective I have never felt the need to mention my racial background in any opening message I've sent to anyone on Fab. And I guess it just feels a little messed up that anyone else could actually feel that they should have to bring that up within a message really?... As for the specific 'events', of course there will be those that happily attend because they want to, and again those that it's a major turn off for due to not wanting to feel like they're catering to a fetish

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By *afksedMan over a year ago

Birmingham

EXACTLY!

You explained it far better than me.

"we dont see race/skin colour we just see hot people who tickle our fancy or not ... i avoid bbc just as i would bwc dont get me started on QOS ... maybe because i (mrs) was brought up in the west midlands where all my friends were white black and asian and no doubt others too ... i just dont see skin colour and totally repect other cultures and ways of life ...i was never home as a kid / teen i was alway eating the food at my friends as it was amazing then they would all pile at ours for the traditional ''roast'' great times great people

sorry went off topic at the end a little

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By *afksedMan over a year ago

Birmingham

It isn’t the case of people seeking offence on the behalf of others. It certainly is not the case of wanting to feel superior. And it is absolutely not a problem with the world today.

Here is what it is.

I genuinely care about people. That’s it. The only ulterior motive/ hidden agenda is genuine empathy. Also empathy for the person who might be inadvertently causing offence.

The demonisation of empathy by entities that do have an ulterior motive is a worrying development in our culture. Empathy is not a new thing.

"We are contacted on a regular basis by black guys that state either in their profile or as part of their message that they are BBC.

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By *trueceltMan over a year ago

Bristol

been so many questions of this type lately. I can't help think it's deliberate baiting (to the usual suspects) and will inevitabily descend into a tiresome game of 'sensitive me' one-upmanship until a bored mod eventually closes the thread. arguing over semantics is pointless.

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By *ussybagderMan over a year ago

Salford

Pointless post

Unless its bothering u personally why would even bother posting this to create friction between this beautiful community

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not really up to me to decide if a black person should feel fetishised.

But do cringe a bit at people talking about 'trying a BBC' or similar, as if it's a dish at a restaurant. "

I'm the same. Confused further by the fact that many black guys will refer to themselves as BBC. So some, but obviously not all, do feel fetishised.

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By *ussybagderMan over a year ago

Salford

"It's not really up to me to decide if a black person should feel fetishised.

But do cringe a bit at people talking about 'trying a BBC' or similar, as if it's a dish at a restaurant.

I'm the same. Confused further by the fact that many black guys will refer to themselves as BBC. So some, but obviously not all, do feel fetishised."
I use bbc short for big black cock to describe my cock not me as a person

I say I have big black cock (bbc

I never say I am black cock n I don't know anyone who who call themselves they are big black cock

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Using any of them terms are steeped in racism..,

The worst is the QoS/ snow bunny entitled cuck couples which to me just gets the warning signs flashing that that these people are normally small minded Daily Mail readers and will more than likely start a conversation with the line of “I’m not racist but…..”

As for a black guy that’s willing to belittle himself into being fetishised due to his skin…, well, I wonder what other things he’ll do just to get a fuck?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not really up to me to decide if a black person should feel fetishised.

But do cringe a bit at people talking about 'trying a BBC' or similar, as if it's a dish at a restaurant.

I'm the same. Confused further by the fact that many black guys will refer to themselves as BBC. So some, but obviously not all, do feel fetishised.I use bbc short for big black cock to describe my cock not me as a person

I say I have big black cock (bbc

I never say I am black cock n I don't know anyone who who call themselves they are big black cock

You know what I mean. I've yet to see a BBC (or even wee bc) that wasn't attached to a black man.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Using any of them terms are steeped in racism..,

As for a black guy that’s willing to belittle himself into being fetishised due to his skin…, well, I wonder what other things he’ll do just to get a fuck?

You've literally made one presumption after another, you sound such a hypocrite!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You've literally made one presumption after another, you sound such a hypocrite!"

And then you blocked me..

I guess the phrase “I’m not racist but…..” was too close to being the truth for a Daily Mail reading bigoted Snowbunny?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You've literally made one presumption after another, you sound such a hypocrite!

And then you blocked me..

I guess the phrase “I’m not racist but…..” was too close to being the truth for a Daily Mail reading bigoted Snowbunny?

No I just find the forums helpful in showcasing undesirable personalities like yourself. Hence I blocked you.

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By *ohn KanakaMan over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

You've literally made one presumption after another, you sound such a hypocrite!

And then you blocked me..

I guess the phrase “I’m not racist but…..” was too close to being the truth for a Daily Mail reading bigoted Snowbunny?

Honestly I'm struggling with the daily mail references abd the "I'm not a racist but..." comments. People actively seeking black men are unlikely to fall in to those camps surely?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So, I pos(t)ed a question on here a couple days ago directed towards black men, and now I’m flipping it for non-black fab members (male and female) to hear more of their perspective on it.

The question:

No right or wrong answers – I just want to see where you stand with it.’

Black members feel free to chime in, but this is mainly to hear how non-black members feel about it. Hopefully an honest, healthy debate.

See the forum title ‘For My Fellow Black Men Only’ for original context of this post."

It doesn't affect or relate to us so we have no concern over it's use.

We will never get offended for anyone else, and offence is subjective too.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

You've literally made one presumption after another, you sound such a hypocrite!

And then you blocked me..

I guess the phrase “I’m not racist but…..” was too close to being the truth for a Daily Mail reading bigoted Snowbunny?

Honestly I'm struggling with the daily mail references abd the "I'm not a racist but..." comments. People actively seeking black men are unlikely to fall in to those camps surely?"

Not necessarily. People can very easily find certain traits attractive without respecting the people as individuals.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally I don't like the term bbc and wouldn't use it even though I'm mostly attracted to black men. On the flip side, a lot of people have approached me and labelled me as a 'pawg' so I guess the race preference goes both ways.

People can have prefrences sure but labelling people as a certain term can be quite vulgar.

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By *hy4BBCWoman over a year ago

near

In only here for cock. I prefer big black cock. So is it offensive to say i want a bbc? I don't want a small black cock or white etc. I don’t want a bf you can be a stupid or smart. I like black because there isn't many black people where I live so it's different. Also i like the aesthetic of black men. Also I think SOME black men do have very big cocks. I don't think this is ALL. I don't know if there is a study but I'm sure if there was it would say black men have

e some of the biggest cocks. More black men have big cocks than white men do.

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By *hy4BBCWoman over a year ago

near

Just to add I've never met a guy who said he had a massive cock vwe bwc that is bigger than a black one I've tried.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

You've literally made one presumption after another, you sound such a hypocrite!

And then you blocked me..

I guess the phrase “I’m not racist but…..” was too close to being the truth for a Daily Mail reading bigoted Snowbunny?

Honestly I'm struggling with the daily mail references abd the "I'm not a racist but..." comments. People actively seeking black men are unlikely to fall in to those camps surely?"

You must be joking right? They are probably more likely to fall into that camp than others...

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By *hy4BBCWoman over a year ago

near

Also my ex eas black so I'm not racist and yes they had a bbc but it was long distance and we didn't stay together long.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As a mixed race man who’s been on and off of here for years, I’ve found my experience to be BBC very much meaning a colour thing. As opposed to a cultural thing. In that, there are many shades of “black people”, culturally. However I’ve found those that use the term BBC very much attracted to the actual idea of being with a “black coloured” man as opposed to wanting to be with a “black guy”.

Truth is, I think there are many facets to interracial sex (sometimes and not always), many of which fall somewhere around “jungle fever” or “forbidden fruit” fantasies.

Some will want a “BBC trophy”, some want “jungle fever”, others maybe just following a trend of using an acronym as description?

My two penneth

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

It's a label and I'm well known for not being a fan of labels.

People can choose to call themselves what they wish - BBC, BBW, PAWG, QOS, TV, HPW, Fab Straight....whatever they wish. If someone chooses to identify themselves using a certain acronym or name then that's 100% their choice.

It's not for anyone else to decide if they're right or wrong.

Some choose a name or label purely because that's what they wish to be identified as and because it gives them comfort and confidence.

Others? I suspect it's little more than pure marketing, to try and appeal to a target audience whether they honestly fit the label they've adopted for themselves or not.

The largest dick I've ever seen was in fact attached to a black guy. But generally I've seen as many large white cocks as black. I've seen women who happily describe themselves as BBW's and others who take huge offence to the term. I've seen it stated that every TV must be gay or bi because they wear women's clothes, yet I've met several straight TV's over the years at socials.

But to get back on track with the specific question asked.....

I don't particularly like the term, nor have any horse in that race (no pun intended) and find the concept cringeworthy, but I suspect if you asked anyone that does they'd give you a different answer to the next person.

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By *izequeenCouple over a year ago

Solihull

what a fantastic thread

Snow bunny size queen here, frequently use disgusting racist terms in the bedroom while being verbally abused so before you lefty snowflakes go into meltdown I do try and be inclusive, I once fucked a TV on a washing machine so for those of you who identify as appliances consider yourself triggered

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hahahahaha

That made me laugh

"what a fantastic thread

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By *lackshadow7Man over a year ago

Toronto

*peeks into thread*

This is going exactly as expected, lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im not that fussy i think grown ups should fight there own battles unless they cant

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"what a fantastic thread

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"what a fantastic thread

Do you mean a television or a transvestite?

If the former, flat screen or old style tube?

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By *8v3nCouple over a year ago

Coventry

Well. Let's say this site is special. It is meant for sex. And in sex context is a fetish and there are many more fetishes which are around one or another feature of people. I think for most it's not about degrading, but loving that special thing, whatever it is.

I am more than happy to be BWC for my babe. But depends on the context it can be more. So the same about relationships, if you invest more in friendship or like, then you can be more. I am sure lots more about likes or dislikes can be agreed when communicating during or around sex.

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By *izequeenCouple over a year ago

Solihull

Cheeky

a transvestite but you make s good point, I think I would have to choose the old style as these new flat screens I'd keep falling off xx

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By *ollydoesWoman over a year ago

Shangri-La

Every one has preferences. I used to think it a bit much when I saw a profile where someone(s) were on seeking bbc or didn't want to meet someone who didn't match their " colour chart". However I have on my profile I only wish to meet Bi guys which is my preference. What fucks me off is when when someone who only wants to me blah blah because they are is OK but someone who dosnt want to meet blah blah because they are is then racist/prejudice/ect. Just as I don't wanna meet straight guys dosnt mean I hate straight guys.

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By *ain and sortedMan over a year ago

Old Harlow Essex

On the flip side I have black female fwb, I like her not because of her colour but because she's a lovely honest sexy person, however she has felt when we go clubbing that she gets fetished about due to colour. When people say I've never had a black lady before, I agree that sounds rather archaic now days and see her point. However bbc does seem to an old hat form of description, what if the nice man doesn't have a big one, does that mean he's no good? Totally get its an ingrained term and some use it to attract ehat they desire, we are swingers, a community that embraces everyone, we are not politicians or law enforcement, open minded people who shpdnt judge others what ever the creed or sexuality, the old saying divide and conquer comes to mind with these discussions, we all can't be for everyone, if a lady says no bi men fine I wouldn't contact as we all have our choices. However an all inclusive society is the way forward, choice of terminology does need a tweak or two, but good thread for people to get thier point of view across,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not really up to me to decide if a black person should feel fetishised.

But do cringe a bit at people talking about 'trying a BBC' or similar, as if it's a dish at a restaurant. "

You would be surprised the amount of men who message me saying they want yo 'try' being with a black girl

It's so weird

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By *ftereightMan over a year ago

SouthEast

To much thought goes into all this. It really doesn't matter if its bwc or bbc or a preference is black guys only, or white guys only..it would be same as no fat people or no skinny people..or no old people..someone will always feel offended. This site is about (aside from making new friends and socialising in the lifestyle) a fantasy shop where we all look for what ticks our boxes and piques our sexual interests. Mrs Aftereight enjoys black guys equally as much as white guys..in vanilla life she would never dream about saying 'fuck me with your big black cock' or 'big white cock" it's different.. and real life away from fab and swinging while it shares parallels and has overlap is not the same.

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By *ames250122Man over a year ago

Worcester

For the most part I think each person to their own I guess. Though when I see it, it does make me cringe a little.

Apologies in advance if I’m wrong in this next bit but it something that always seemed to be a fetish based off of an old archaic stereotype which at the core devalues someone down to the core premise of the combination of their skin colour and size, without any other quality. BBW for example comes from the attraction to “Big Beautiful Woman” which in the name itself shows admiration, respect and desire for the type of woman they want to meet without the inferred connotation of no other quality matters. Guess, after stopping and thinking about it for a moment. It seems cold, most kinks and fetish’s are based off of a shared act of enjoyment everyone enjoys and are into while still valuing or respecting each other. Never seen MBC or PBC (Medium Black Cock or Petite Black Cock)?

Ps original went with Tiny Black Cock and it pretty much undid the statement. Who hasn’t seen TBC (face palm).

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By *lackMetalMan over a year ago

Centre

"Ok, so I’m a white, Northern European looking causation man. And I’m a progressive.

I have never really seen colour in a general sense, though I am very aware of colour in a contextual historical sense.

I find black women incredibly attractive aesthetically as well as the other ways in which all women are attractive. But I would never “seek a black woman” since this is disrespectful.

Yes, I feel the same way about BBBW.

No, I do not just hate acronyms.

No, I am not jealous of well endowed men!

Yes, I have been in serious relationships a with black women.

Yes, I know a lot of black people have no issue with the term.

So, I pos(t)ed a question on here a couple days ago directed towards black men, and now I’m flipping it for non-black fab members (male and female) to hear more of their perspective on it.

The question:

No right or wrong answers – I just want to see where you stand with it.’

Black members feel free to chime in, but this is mainly to hear how non-black members feel about it. Hopefully an honest, healthy debate.

See the forum title ‘For My Fellow Black Men Only’ for original context of this post."

Spot on, brother! Couldn’t have said it any better

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By *afksedMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"Ok, so I’m a white, Northern European looking causation man. And I’m a progressive.

I have never really seen colour in a general sense, though I am very aware of colour in a contextual historical sense.

I find black women incredibly attractive aesthetically as well as the other ways in which all women are attractive. But I would never “seek a black woman” since this is disrespectful.

Yes, I feel the same way about BBBW.

No, I do not just hate acronyms.

No, I am not jealous of well endowed men!

Yes, I have been in serious relationships a with black women.

Yes, I know a lot of black people have no issue with the term.

So, I pos(t)ed a question on here a couple days ago directed towards black men, and now I’m flipping it for non-black fab members (male and female) to hear more of their perspective on it.

The question:

No right or wrong answers – I just want to see where you stand with it.’

Black members feel free to chime in, but this is mainly to hear how non-black members feel about it. Hopefully an honest, healthy debate.

See the forum title ‘For My Fellow Black Men Only’ for original context of this post.

Spot on, brother! Couldn’t have said it any better

Thanks friend.

It’s context, just like everything.

If you are intent on using the acronym BBC you should at l_ast be aware of its historical bestial connotations and that it may cause offence.

Now, will someone please use the word ‘coloured’ to describe brown skin so that I can properly lose my shit?!

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By *ocoTemptationMan over a year ago

london

Now, will someone please use the word ‘coloured’ to describe brown skin so that I can properly lose my shit?!"

lolololol

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By *ocoTemptationMan over a year ago

london

Along the lines of what I said in the other thread I don't like the term but as in all aspects of life I always give people the benefit of doubt.

However I do politely point out that I don't like the term if I meet someone new who uses it.

Once you engage in dialogue with people its a lot easier to figure out of they are looking for a person to have fun with or a walking prop/cock. At that point its up to oneself to make a judgement that one is comfortable with.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I saw your original post asking black men their view on the term BBC and it was very interesting to read. I've also read Akala's book Natives: Race and Class in the Ruins of an Empire, which I highly recommend. He goes into depth how terms like BBC and the stereotype of black men having large penises and the history behind it IS racist. He articulates it really well. He goes on to talk about about when Linford Christie won Olympic gold, but all the papers went on about was 'Linford's Lunchbox' completely demeaning his achievements and objectifying him and a stereotype which is rooted in racism going all the way back to the sl*ve trade where black men were seen as b_asts and not people. Akala explains it much better than I ever could, but that's the jist of it.

I think the vast majority of people using the term BBC on Fab really don't intend it to be racist or even actually know why it may be racist. Talking about it can only help though and maybe breakdown stereotypes.

As to the other question about parties for white women and black men. I say go for it people. Fuck who you like as long as it's legal. I know some people are probably offended by these things, but that's because they'll be racist, bigots, incels or something else.

Oh and to answer your question in short about the term BBC, as a white man, it doesn't offend me, and it's only because of me reading Akala's book and reading posts like this that I realise it probably shouldn't be used. Otherwise though, if it wasn't for that, I'd be ignorant to the fact too.

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By *inkywife1981Couple over a year ago

A town near you

If I was black I would take advantage of the BBC thing to get meets however I feel it must make a lot of Black guys feel they have to live up to some stereotype which isn't fair.

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By *angerous123Man over a year ago

Leeds

I think it's pretty rank in all honesty. I've black friends who hate the term.

The worst is when I see some boomer say "I had sex with A BBC" or in other words "I had sex with a big black cock"

Not "I had sex with a black man with a big cock" no, no mention of the person attached to it. Just reduced down to his dick.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think people are snowflakes

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By *o new WinksMan over a year ago

BSE

I don't like the term.

But I am more concerned about the fetishisation of anybody by ethnicity...but it seems particular to Black Men.

I see a number of "Black Men Only" profiles...which is fine. We all have our preferences.

However, the white couples who say this...so obviously not just an aesthetic preference...seem to have categorised their potential playmates based on them being markedly unlike the husband.

Their motivation for this I cannot work out, but if you fancy white men enough to marry one, why not play with them as well ?

It appears to be a "taboo" or similar that they need to play with to make it...I dont know...acceptable.

This would upset me a little if it were me they were with. Objectification is fine, but with a negative or derogatory context is not so much.

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By *ain and sortedMan over a year ago

Old Harlow Essex

"I saw your original post asking black men their view on the term BBC and it was very interesting to read. I've also read Akala's book Natives: Race and Class in the Ruins of an Empire, which I highly recommend. He goes into depth how terms like BBC and the stereotype of black men having large penises and the history behind it IS racist. He articulates it really well. He goes on to talk about about when Linford Christie won Olympic gold, but all the papers went on about was 'Linford's Lunchbox' completely demeaning his achievements and objectifying him and a stereotype which is rooted in racism going all the way back to the sl*ve trade where black men were seen as b_asts and not people. Akala explains it much better than I ever could, but that's the jist of it.

I agree with you, that book is enlightening and worth a read

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People fetishise all sorts -- a black girl I once hooked up with asked me if I was 'fetishing her because she was black' and I replied truthfully, "no, it's because you're fat"

I then asked if she was fetishising me because I was significantly older than her, and she replied "Yes of course I am"

I think race is, rightfully, a sensitive issue for a lot of people -- and I get why people wouldn't want to be reduced to a 'BBC' because there's more to them as a person and it does feed into stereotypes.

The equivalent would be like me saying "looking to meet some big tits" or something, completely ignoring the human owner of them.

Language is tricky, people have all kinds of baggage for all kinds of reasons and we're all entitled to it -- but, one thing I have noticed on here, is that a lot of people are in complete denial of their quite obvious prejudices.

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

However, the white couples who say this...so obviously not just an aesthetic preference...seem to have categorised their potential playmates based on them being markedly unlike the husband.

Their motivation for this I cannot work out, but if you fancy white men enough to marry one, why not play with them as well ?

But that's not exclusively linked to the whole BBC debate.

I know guys married to size 8, small booked women, who have a real thing for larger, busty ladies. It doesn't mean they love their wives any less.

I know women who are size Queens in terms of dicks, but not fussed on ethnicity, who are married to guys with average knobs. So they'll proactively look to meet them, but it doesn't change how they feel about their partner.

It's completely natural and very common in the swinging world to look to meet and play with people aesthetically different to your partner. It's nothing more than variety and experiencing something different from your relationship.

You don't have to understand people's tastes and preferences on who they want to play with, just respect them.

And if that excludes people based on ethnicity, size, age or whatever - it is what it is.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think the bbc and it’s bloody license fees are ……

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"I think it's pretty rank in all honesty. I've black friends who hate the term.

The worst is when I see some boomer say "I had sex with A BBC" or in other words "I had sex with a big black cock"

Not "I had sex with a black man with a big cock" no, no mention of the person attached to it. Just reduced down to his dick.

Whats a boomer?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Whats a boomer? "

Pinched from Wikipedia

“Baby boomers, often shortened to boomers, are the demographic cohort following the Silent Generation and preceding Generation X. The generation is often defined as people born from 1946 to 1964, during the post–World War II baby boom.”

You know the type that is most likely to use dated terms like coloured or half caste and be unintentionally casually racist, xenophobic or homophobic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't like the term.

But I am more concerned about the fetishisation of anybody by ethnicity...but it seems particular to Black Men.

I see a number of "Black Men Only" profiles...which is fine. We all have our preferences.

However, the white couples who say this...so obviously not just an aesthetic preference...seem to have categorised their potential playmates based on them being markedly unlike the husband.

Their motivation for this I cannot work out, but if you fancy white men enough to marry one, why not play with them as well ?

It appears to be a "taboo" or similar that they need to play with to make it...I dont know...acceptable.

This would upset me a little if it were me they were with. Objectification is fine, but with a negative or derogatory context is not so much.

I said this before and got attacked.

If they LOVE black men so much why are they not married to one

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By *W ChapMan over a year ago

Swindon

What about a SBC, there seems to be ladies who don't want a large cock, are there ladies who go for black men who don't want the larger cock size?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't like the term.

But I am more concerned about the fetishisation of anybody by ethnicity...but it seems particular to Black Men.

I see a number of "Black Men Only" profiles...which is fine. We all have our preferences.

However, the white couples who say this...so obviously not just an aesthetic preference...seem to have categorised their potential playmates based on them being markedly unlike the husband.

Their motivation for this I cannot work out, but if you fancy white men enough to marry one, why not play with them as well ?

It appears to be a "taboo" or similar that they need to play with to make it...I dont know...acceptable.

This would upset me a little if it were me they were with. Objectification is fine, but with a negative or derogatory context is not so much.

I said this before and got attacked.

If they LOVE black men so much why are they not married to one

They may only want them for sex, same with the black kings who may only want the white women for sex

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

"So, I pos(t)ed a question on here a couple days ago directed towards black men, and now I’m flipping it for non-black fab members (male and female) to hear more of their perspective on it.

The question:

‘How do you feel about non-black fab members using the term ‘BBC’ as well as those who fetishise black men?

I don't use the term 'bbc' because I have no need to, and for those people who specifically state a preference or desire for 'bbc', I wouldn't contact them.

Also, how do you feel about events catered towards [typically white] women who enjoy sex with black men?

There would be no point in my attending an event such as 'Black Man's Fan Club', 'Dark Desires' or similar, so I would (and have) avoid them"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

I find the fetishisation and objectification of black men on this site quite disgusting at times. "I'd love a BBC" "Had a BBC last night" - do it in the sack by all means but I find it horrific to see men talked about in that way here. And then denied by many as having any racist meaning when...it clearly does!

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow. "

You should hear how men talk about women behind closed doors

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

You should hear how men talk about women behind closed doors"

Ha. Not just behind closed doors. Relevance to what I said, though?

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"I don't like the term.

But I am more concerned about the fetishisation of anybody by ethnicity...but it seems particular to Black Men.

I see a number of "Black Men Only" profiles...which is fine. We all have our preferences.

However, the white couples who say this...so obviously not just an aesthetic preference...seem to have categorised their potential playmates based on them being markedly unlike the husband.

Their motivation for this I cannot work out, but if you fancy white men enough to marry one, why not play with them as well ?

It appears to be a "taboo" or similar that they need to play with to make it...I dont know...acceptable.

This would upset me a little if it were me they were with. Objectification is fine, but with a negative or derogatory context is not so much.

I said this before and got attacked.

If they LOVE black men so much why are they not married to one

They may only want them for sex, same with the black kings who may only want the white women for sex "

What are black kings?

Like Eddie Murphy from zamunda? Actually he was a prince wasnt he

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow. "

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies"

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig. "

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough"

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did. "

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?"

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Some great responses in this thread. Keep it going.

Anybody here feel like they’ve had a change of heart/opinion? If you’ve learned anything new/taken a new perspective, what was it?

Surprisingly a healthy debate for the most part. Will offer more of how I feel on the subject later on – still gathering my thoughts to reply to some of the responses.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks. "

Where did i do that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that? "

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment. "

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort"

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap."

This is hijacking the thread. Let's stop please.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap."

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel. "

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

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By *ollydoesWoman over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?"

Your fellow ladies! The guys who go there to fuck the ladies make it possible to?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It makes me uncomfortable.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

Your fellow ladies! The guys who go there to fuck the ladies make it possible to?"

Indeed. Which is why i mentioned them in a follow up comment as well, as being the possible source of her bad taste

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some great responses in this thread. Keep it going.

Anybody here feel like they’ve had a change of heart/opinion? If you’ve learned anything new/taken a new perspective, what was it?

Surprisingly a healthy debate for the most part. Will offer more of how I feel on the subject later on – still gathering my thoughts to reply to some of the responses."

I wouldn't touch a black man who market's himself as BBC because to me it seems like he's marketing himself specifically for white women.

I have no issue what's ever who black men who date/sleep with white women it just seems strange to me when a man seems to want to make it obvious that he does.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some great responses in this thread. Keep it going.

Anybody here feel like they’ve had a change of heart/opinion? If you’ve learned anything new/taken a new perspective, what was it?

Surprisingly a healthy debate for the most part. Will offer more of how I feel on the subject later on – still gathering my thoughts to reply to some of the responses.

I wouldn't touch a black man who market's himself as BBC because to me it seems like he's marketing himself specifically for white women.

I have no issue what's ever who black men who date/sleep with white women it just seems strange to me when a man seems to want to make it obvious that he does. "

I myself have met white men on this site so I wouldn't ever judge someone for sleeping with another race

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

BLM movement basically ( my understanding of it is ) POC being heard, not being ignored and having their experiences/thoughts/feelings heard without others judging/interefing etc and about POC having their voice....i include this in that as light hearted intent as it is in comparison to other fights the POC community face

So therefore id actually listen to a POC's opinion on this and take into account their feelings/thoughts first

Fab topic tho OT its important to discuss

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me"

I have clarified. More than once.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once. "

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying. "

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

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By *la87Man over a year ago

acton

"BLM movement basically ( my understanding of it is ) POC being heard, not being ignored and having their experiences/thoughts/feelings heard without others judging/interefing etc and about POC having their voice....i include this in that as light hearted intent as it is in comparison to other fights the POC community face

So therefore id actually listen to a POC's opinion on this and take into account their feelings/thoughts first

Fab topic tho OT its important to discuss

BLM as an organisation is people being used to help fund raise for a disingenuous few and that disingenuous few. All with an underpinning of Marxism. Let's keep them out of this conversation please

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel. "

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender matter in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I myself have met white men on this site so I wouldn't ever judge someone for sleeping with another race "

In my opinion, there’s is no race…. You only get good or bad people….. so it’s best to do your best to not be a cunt.

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By *ain and sortedMan over a year ago

Old Harlow Essex

It seems this thread, which started of as an all inclusive. Point of views. Has degenerated into a slanging match and inappropriate use of language to others, mainly the ones who have no idea of living outside their own comfort zone, narrow minds create tge problem that it's created

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

agree with you

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By *ollydoesWoman over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender matter in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that"

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

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By *edonist79Man over a year ago

Trowbridge

My gf has a black fwb we met off fab. He likes her using it and encourages it. He's even got her saying she loves his n word dick when they fuck. She would be horrified to say that in any other context. She does it because it turns him on more and she loves that.

But for everyone like him I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't like it. If I had to guess I'd think men don't mind as much being fetishised as it gets them the opportunity for a lot of sex due to it. Plenty of profiles on here looking for it I'm sure.

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By *edonist79Man over a year ago

Trowbridge

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Each to their own mate. If all parties enjoy it the kink isn't an issue. Race is only a problem if someone gas a problem and usually it's them, not race that's the problem.

Would I want a black guy to fuck my wife? Yes sure. Would he need a big cock, yes sure, but being black isn't a requirement, if he's black that's fine but white is fine too.

Everyone is entitled to whatever they want, as long as someone wants to give it to them. If not, it stays a fantasy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"My gf has a black fwb we met off fab. He likes her using it and encourages it. He's even got her saying she loves his n word dick when they fuck. She would be horrified to say that in any other context. She does it because it turns him on more and she loves that.

When presented with the idea to say the N word, how did she originally feel is what I want to know since you mention it.

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By *edonist79Man over a year ago

Trowbridge

He told her to tell him he loved his n dick. She felt a bit unsure as she's never used it. But she was comfortable with him by this point so said it. And apparently he got even harder. So she loved the effect it has on him and uses it with him all the time. She has slept with other black guys and wouldn't dream of saying it without them bringing it up first though.

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By *lim_funMan over a year ago

Hebden bridge

Some people like beards and some don't, it make absaloutley no difference to me although I am jelly and would like to try different races

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

"Some people like beards and some don't, it make absaloutley no difference to me although I am jelly and would like to try different races"

Beards and race are not comparable. One is an inherent and unchanged part of your very being. The other is a personal lifestyle choice that can be changed, removed etc as desired.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I myself have met white men on this site so I wouldn't ever judge someone for sleeping with another race

In my opinion, there’s is no race…. You only get good or bad people….. so it’s best to do your best to not be a cunt.

Well there is race, whether you want to erase it or not.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some philosophers on here tonight hahaha. Jesus

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By *unnyPairCouple over a year ago

Seminole

No time to read through all of this, but we’ve both had sex with people of all colors and there is nothing more off putting than being solicited for BBC then perhaps a picture of someone with a hard on sitting on a toilet.

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By *lim_funMan over a year ago

Hebden bridge

"Some people like beards and some don't, it make absaloutley no difference to me although I am jelly and would like to try different races

Beards and race are not comparable. One is an inherent and unchanged part of your very being. The other is a personal lifestyle choice that can be changed, removed etc as desired. "
they are in terms of preference, you are reading too much into it

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By *ames-77Man over a year ago

milton keynes

White guys have big cocks too na I'm joking should leave colour out of it

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"He told her to tell him he loved his n dick. She felt a bit unsure as she's never used it. But she was comfortable with him by this point so said it. And apparently he got even harder. So she loved the effect it has on him and uses it with him all the time. She has slept with other black guys and wouldn't dream of saying it without them bringing it up first though. "

A big shame he allows that given the history of the word.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender matter in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up. "

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender matter in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself. "

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By *ollydoesWoman over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender matter in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself. "

She said she didn't like it being a fetish, the events left a bad taste in her mouth. You then replied about it being how our fellow women behaved..she said nothing aboug women herself. that was before mansplaining was mentioned. Mansplaining was only ever mentioned after you said that it was other woman making her feel uncomfortable when that is totally not what had been said. She said the fetish of it left her with a bad taste in her mouth, nothing to do with women. You came up with that all in your own and decided that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender matter in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself.

Thank you. Was starting to doubt myself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The term BBC makes me cringe (used by anyone) but so does the term BWC which I've seen before.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender matter in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself.

And who is it who drives the fetish?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender matter in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself.

And who is it who drives the fetish? "

JFC. Leave it be. You said you would stop.

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By *eestontopMan over a year ago

Nottingham

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By *eestontopMan over a year ago

Nottingham

Grindr is acronym city and have seen: BBC HNH DL RN x

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender matter in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself.

And who is it who drives the fetish?

JFC. Leave it be. You said you would stop. "

Im responding to the other person, not you.

Funny how you had no problem carrying it on, yet when i get back involved then you dont like that

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By *usktilDawnCouple over a year ago

York

What a fascinating thread, so many valid points of view.

I'd have to say that this is the most articulate thread I've seen here.

And, my point of view? (Rob here) is that, I agree that certain terms are demeaning, such as bbc,bbw. But... They do help a prospective meet determine if that couple/person is suitable for them.

You enter FAB at your own risk and the benefits can be wonderful. But, it's a cruel brutal world if you are sensitive about your body shape. Caveat emptor

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By *ollydoesWoman over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender matter in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself.

And who is it who drives the fetish? "

Both. Can't have one without the other..

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By *lackMetalMan over a year ago

Centre

"I don't like the term.

But I am more concerned about the fetishisation of anybody by ethnicity...but it seems particular to Black Men.

I see a number of "Black Men Only" profiles...which is fine. We all have our preferences.

However, the white couples who say this...so obviously not just an aesthetic preference...seem to have categorised their potential playmates based on them being markedly unlike the husband.

Their motivation for this I cannot work out, but if you fancy white men enough to marry one, why not play with them as well ?

It appears to be a "taboo" or similar that they need to play with to make it...I dont know...acceptable.

This would upset me a little if it were me they were with. Objectification is fine, but with a negative or derogatory context is not so much.

Thank you, your post is really thought-provoking for me.

The human mind is an interesting thing, isn’t it? The way people rationalise and do things in most cases is very cognitively dissonant.

The fact that one chooses a white spouse but then decides exclusively not to engage with any tiger white men in the scene has always baffled me. And when you ask, they always say, I have got one at home.

Cognitive dissonance is a mf, I tell ya.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Each to their own mate. If all parties enjoy it the kink isn't an issue. Race is only a problem if someone gas a problem and usually it's them, not race that's the problem.

Would I want a black guy to fuck my wife? Yes sure. Would he need a big cock, yes sure, but being black isn't a requirement, if he's black that's fine but white is fine too.

Everyone is entitled to whatever they want, as long as someone wants to give it to them. If not, it stays a fantasy."

I always find it interesting when one party tells another what they should or shouldn’t be offended by… to this I say you only get to do that if you spend a lifetime in my shoes!

It’s been an interesting thread to read so far, but I have always said it will never change unless black men see no advantage in using it… and couples see no penalty in using it either! …

language is a funny thing where bbc “apparently” is acceptable, qos is borderline, and the n word is a no no……

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By *iss_Cali_xxCouple over a year ago

Herne Bay

I was meeting with a black guy who told me he'd be into trying race play, which totally came from him. We never got round to it and he's gone back home now (was in my area for uni) but that conversation made me realize that all of these kind of matters are really down to the individuals involved, as what one person hates or finds degrading, someone else can find it a real turn on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The BBC sucks not put out any good tv shows for sometime now and I’m feed up of paying for a tv license

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By *astMan over a year ago

local

I’m mixed race and sometimes don’t know if I fit into the category

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender matter in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself.

And who is it who drives the fetish?

Both. Can't have one without the other.. "

Which i acknowledged above also. Its either women driving it or black men, or both.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman over a year ago

Reading

I do find it odd when I am messaged asking if I like black men. I tend to answer some are wonderful, some are arseholes. I get that some guys want to out quickly those who would never meet a black guy but I dislike the question. Race is an arbitrary and socialy constructed way to group human beings.

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By *la87Man over a year ago

acton

"I do find it odd when I am messaged asking if I like black men. I tend to answer some are wonderful, some are arseholes. I get that some guys want to out quickly those who would never meet a black guy but I dislike the question. Race is an arbitrary and socialy constructed way to group human beings."

Agreed

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

I agree that it would be great if we didn't group people or engage in identity politics, but its not socially constructed. Its real.

Some people arent attracted to people of a particular race. Similar to not being attracted to people of a certain height, weight etc.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman over a year ago

Reading

I agree that it would be great if we didn't group people or engage in identity politics, but its not socially constructed. Its real.

Some people arent attracted to people of a particular race. Similar to not being attracted to people of a certain height, weight etc. "

Its not real though. There is more genetic difference among groups that between groups. We have made it seem real but it isn't in any biological sense. Free your mind.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

I agree that it would be great if we didn't group people or engage in identity politics, but its not socially constructed. Its real.

Some people arent attracted to people of a particular race. Similar to not being attracted to people of a certain height, weight etc.

Its not real though. There is more genetic difference among groups that between groups. We have made it seem real but it isn't in any biological sense. Free your mind. "

Im not even talking about genetic differences, which do exit. Im just referring to visual differences. They mean a lot to a lot of people. Thats nothing to do with an unfree mind. That's just reality

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By *he Happy ManMan over a year ago

Merseyside

"So, I pos(t)ed a question on here a couple days ago directed towards black men, and now I’m flipping it for non-black fab members (male and female) to hear more of their perspective on it.

The question:

No right or wrong answers – I just want to see where you stand with it.’

Black members feel free to chime in, but this is mainly to hear how non-black members feel about it. Hopefully an honest, healthy debate.

See the forum title ‘For My Fellow Black Men Only’ for original context of this post."

But do we choose what turns us on? Is it a fetish? I love women short in height. Sexually they drive me wild. I also love curvy women. Again sexually they drive me wild. I didn't choose those turn ons and I wouldn't say they are a fetish.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's why I added a statement to my profile. Avoids the question.

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By *ob.42Man over a year ago

Near Yarmouth

Everyone has their own preferences, personally, I would choose a redhead over anyone else but I wouldn't choose redheads at the exclusion of anyone else.

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By *ollydoesWoman over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender mý in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself.

And who is it who drives the fetish?

Both. Can't have one without the other..

Which i acknowledged above also. Its either women driving it or black men, or both. "

No. You said twice how its her fellow women's behaviour makes uncomfortable, then you said women are the then ones driving it, women make it a fetish! The guys love it too..

Oh and alot of guys do meet guys for the same.

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By *hy4BBCWoman over a year ago

near

Tbh it seemms the people who don't have a bbc don't like the term the most ie ehite guys and black guys either average or small ones. Maybe jealousy

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By *ain and sortedMan over a year ago

Old Harlow Essex

"Tbh it seemms the people who don't have a bbc don't like the term the most ie ehite guys and black guys either average or small ones. Maybe jealousy"

Some may be that way,agreded,

But in tge 21st century is that the way we should think? I'm aware people have a preference to what they like, I actually admire a well gifted one regardless of colour, a competition is life now, another question. Who comes first haha

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By *bsolutley FabMan over a year ago

Fareham

"what a fantastic thread

"
Fukin Brilliant Response….love it…quality

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By *empting TravelsMan over a year ago

London

"Tbh it seemms the people who don't have a bbc don't like the term the most ie ehite guys and black guys either average or small ones. Maybe jealousy"

It's possible but as with all things one size doesn't fit all (pun intended). I'm a 5ft6 black guy with an average cock. It's human nature to always want more so although I wouldn't say know if I could wave a magic wand I'm also very comfortable in my own skin.

I did once try to promote the term Beautiful Black Cock but it didn't catch on lol

I don't like the term BBC but I don't envy guys with yummy cocks bigger than mine I just suck and enjoy them.

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By *eventysixCouple over a year ago

glossop

Only bbc we use is bbc1 for _astenders

the other use for it is wrong

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender mý in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself.

And who is it who drives the fetish?

Both. Can't have one without the other..

Which i acknowledged above also. Its either women driving it or black men, or both.

No. You said twice how its her fellow women's behaviour makes uncomfortable, then you said women are the then ones driving it, women make it a fetish! The guys love it too..

Oh and alot of guys do meet guys for the same. "

Look through my comments, i also mentioned the black guys as a driving factor behind it

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By *ollydoesWoman over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender mý in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself.

And who is it who drives the fetish?

Both. Can't have one without the other..

Which i acknowledged above also. Its either women driving it or black men, or both.

No. You said twice how its her fellow women's behaviour makes uncomfortable, then you said women are the then ones driving it, women make it a fetish! The guys love it too..

Oh and alot of guys do meet guys for the same.

Look through my comments, i also mentioned the black guys as a driving factor behind it"

Look through your comments. Your first comment reference to men was...

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

I am Greek Cypriot born and raised in London.I wouldn’t feel comfortable marketing myself BGC , Greek Stallion , Large Kebab or anything else that is Greek stereotyping.It’s just not me. I asked on another thread if any guy who uses BBC in their profile or username why they do it no one answered except a couple who said that the guys who contacted them said they used it to get laid I guess it’s their USP

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Two great threads, OP - these issues should be discussed and the replies have been very insightful.

Event like the ones you mention - I honestly don't know. Black men attend them willingly, but it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow.

Well call it what it is. This is women behaving in this way basically. Your fellow ladies

Your point? Be clear if you're going to have a dig.

Im not having a dig at all. Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. Thats fair enough

I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I didnt comment on other women. You did.

Well it aint men going there having sex with the black men is it?

It would be great if you didn't put words in my mouth thanks.

Where did i do that?

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display." I didn't say that nor suggest it. I said the events leave a bad taste in my mouth. I made no further comment.

I made an observation on your comment - Your comment that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth can reasonably be interpreted as making you uncomfortable.

Generally something leaving a bad taste in ones mouth leads to a loss of comfort

I was precise in my wording. I made no comment on other women. I said I didn't know about the events. I didn't say why they left a bad taste in my mouth - you just made a leap.

I know that. Im extrapolating using probability and likelihood.

The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men

I repeat can you stop telling me what I said and how I feel.

Im doing neither of those.

Im merely making a reasonable observation on your own comment, that said events leave a bad taste in your mouth.

If ive said anything unreasonable or innacurate, feel free to clarify for me

I have clarified. More than once.

No you havent. You just keep telling me to stop saying things that im not actually saying.

"Youre uncomfortable with the behaviours some of your fellow women display. "

"The events leave a bad taste in your mouth. These events are driven by and attended by women. Therefore women are the source of your bad taste/discomfort.

Well, women and/or black men"

Stop mansplaining how I feel.

You said they left a bad taste in your mouth. Clearly, that equates to you feeling uncomfortable. Thats not me putting any words in your mouth, thats just as plain as the nose on my face.

Also, why does my gender mý in our discourse? Im curious why you feel the need to reference that

From reading back its really you who brought the gender thing up.

Not in a remotely similar context to her use of it however.

Her use of the word 'mansplaining' is effectively her way of trying to reduce or invalidate my contribution purely because i am a man.

And another way for her to bestow victimhood upon herself.

And who is it who drives the fetish?

Both. Can't have one without the other..

Which i acknowledged above also. Its either women driving it or black men, or both.

No. You said twice how its her fellow women's behaviour makes uncomfortable, then you said women are the then ones driving it, women make it a fetish! The guys love it too..

Oh and alot of guys do meet guys for the same.

Look through my comments, i also mentioned the black guys as a driving factor behind it

Look through your comments. Your first comment reference to men was..."

Yes i know that, and as ive already said, i added black men into it in a later comment

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"Tbh it seemms the people who don't have a bbc don't like the term the most ie ehite guys and black guys either average or small ones. Maybe jealousy"

Good observation

I’ve noticed that too.

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By *ananaman41Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Tbh it seemms the people who don't have a bbc don't like the term the most ie ehite guys and black guys either average or small ones. Maybe jealousy"

I dont agree. I think its more the SJW type who want to get offended by everything on someone elses behalf

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By *D835Man over a year ago

London

"Tbh it seemms the people who don't have a bbc don't like the term the most ie ehite guys and black guys either average or small ones. Maybe jealousy

I dont agree. I think its more the SJW type who want to get offended by everything on someone elses behalf"

What you’ve said about the SJW is just one of the reasons …..and there are many / different reasons…. The lady you are responding to has also highlighted ‘one of’ the reasons.

I don’t think she was saying the reason she highlighted applied in ‘every’ case.

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By *ain and sortedMan over a year ago

Old Harlow Essex

"Only bbc we use is bbc1 for _astenders

the other use for it is wrong

That's why I once has virgin, used once and was no longer all I got now is broadband

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Tbh it seemms the people who don't have a bbc don't like the term the most ie ehite guys and black guys either average or small ones. Maybe jealousy"

Lots of black men have said that they don't like the term though....

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By *oan of DArcCouple over a year ago

Glasgow

"Tbh it seemms the people who don't have a bbc don't like the term the most ie ehite guys and black guys either average or small ones. Maybe jealousy

Lots of black men have said that they don't like the term though...."

...............................

You're talking into a vacuum Tess it's tone death sadly

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By *arkjackMan over a year ago

West Cork

I hate it.

There are lots of reasons why but that is my instinctual response.

There is an analog to this with Asian women and White men too.

So...

[1]

I've been to quite a few gangbangs in England. The black men aren't different in size to the white men. Perhaps a formal survey will reveal a difference but the point is I really doubt it is something to write home about, I think this is an idea that came out of American culture for some reason and we copy all their terrible ideas.

[2]

I do think there is a difference that makes African origin men more interesting to white women - but this is to do with light. That sounds strange but I can explain it.

So if you take naked photos of each sex in each group in the world and compare them - you are going to notice an interesting pattern about skin colour. The males are always darker than the females - especially on the genitals - regardless of what group they are from.

My hypothesis is that skin coloration is a sexual signal that is misfiring. You have to recall that we have been separated for many thousands of years. So women are not attracted to Africans specifically (the fetishization of blacks comes later through media and the stories people tell themselves) - they are just attracted to male sexual signals and skin coloration is one of them.

[3]

The racial stuff in porn about BBC not does come from "racist right wingers". Actual racist right wingers are not producing and consuming porn with black people in them because they find it not to their taste.

This means the racial emphasis comes from those goodthinkers who believe they are doing the right thing by blacks - by being favorable - but the real problem there is that if you are a black man in a white majority country you are going to encounter two problems.

a) It is going to be assumed on each meet you are a specimen.

b) The woman you fall in love with is likely going to see you as a BBC - so you are a bit of fun for her, but she won't take you romantically - which is what you want if you're in love.

So that sucks.

[4] Racial preferences are pretty strong and I won't argue we should change them - but I will point out that we are talking about black men only. For each black man there exists a black woman. In general white men don't find black women attractive, the statistics from dating sites confirm this is a fact. So when you fetishize black men you are also making it tougher for his girl version of himself to find a compatible mate.

[5] Out of self interest - I don't like women liking black men simply because I am not black. I would prefer if all the women in the world preferred me. I know this is obvious - but I like to keep myself honest here.

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By *astMan over a year ago

local

"So, I pos(t)ed a question on here a couple days ago directed towards black men, and now I’m flipping it for non-black fab members (male and female) to hear more of their perspective on it.

The question:

No right or wrong answers – I just want to see where you stand with it.’

Black members feel free to chime in, but this is mainly to hear how non-black members feel about it. Hopefully an honest, healthy debate.

See the forum title ‘For My Fellow Black Men Only’ for original context of this post."

I might have missed prior post, but fall in both categories because I’m a 50/50 mixed race man. My question is am I B (black) enough when people have bbc or bbc only/Afro only

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By *tudentForFunMan over a year ago

Craigavon

Race fetishisation is always weird in my eyes, and I know it’s usually involving harmful stereotypes that lead to black/asian people insecure about their sizes because people like that set an expectation from porn & media

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Same as BBW nights or Killing Kittens type events. The people who enjoy it will go. Those who dislike it won't go.

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By *thletic_cuckMan over a year ago

Here and there

"So, I pos(t)ed a question on here a couple days ago directed towards black men, and now I’m flipping it for non-black fab members (male and female) to hear more of their perspective on it.

The question:

No right or wrong answers – I just want to see where you stand with it.’

Black members feel free to chime in, but this is mainly to hear how non-black members feel about it. Hopefully an honest, healthy debate.

See the forum title ‘For My Fellow Black Men Only’ for original context of this post."

To me, it doesn't make an ounce of a difference. Everyone have different tastes. Some like black men only and some like White men only. Variety and all that. Same as someone who is attracted to skinny people or curvy people or beards etc. No different.

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By *la87Man over a year ago

acton

"So, I pos(t)ed a question on here a couple days ago directed towards black men, and now I’m flipping it for non-black fab members (male and female) to hear more of their perspective on it.

The question:

No right or wrong answers – I just want to see where you stand with it.’

Black members feel free to chime in, but this is mainly to hear how non-black members feel about it. Hopefully an honest, healthy debate.

See the forum title ‘For My Fellow Black Men Only’ for original context of this post.

His issue is with the term BBC as opposed to the preference for black people

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By *uke olovingmanMan over a year ago

Gravesend

If I see bbc only..I steer clear...obviously firstly because I am not big or black ..and second I don't think it's nice to be treated as just an 8 inch plus tube of warm meat

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

"Tbh it seemms the people who don't have a bbc don't like the term the most ie ehite guys and black guys either average or small ones. Maybe jealousy

Lots of black men have said that they don't like the term though...."

Lots of black men said they didn't mind or challenged how negative the term actually is though didn't they.

What was the response... they not only had to justify themselves, they weren't black enough.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Tbh it seemms the people who don't have a bbc don't like the term the most ie ehite guys and black guys either average or small ones. Maybe jealousy

Lots of black men have said that they don't like the term though....

Lots of black men said they didn't mind or challenged how negative the term actually is though didn't they.

What was the response... they not only had to justify themselves, they weren't black enough. "

I'm not disputing that

The comment that i replied to said that it was only small/average black men or non black men that had an issue with the term.

I'll copy and past it for you to read again since you somehow missed it despite me quoting it.

"Tbh it seemms the people who don't have a bbc don't like the term the most ie ehite guys and black guys either average or small ones. Maybe jealousy"

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