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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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All the recent bareback threads got me thinking. I've been to 3 clubs in last few weeks and I want to know what the risks are when guys and girls are fingering different women.
It seems common a practise and no cleaning between pussy. Watched one lady finger 6 different ladies.
So isn't this nearly as risky as going bare
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"All the recent bareback threads got me thinking. I've been to 3 clubs in last few weeks and I want to know what the risks are when guys and girls are fingering different women.
It seems common a practise and no cleaning between pussy. Watched one lady finger 6 different ladies.
So isn't this nearly as risky as going bare
Cali"
Interesting thought. Is there any difference between that and bareback? Not sure there is... |
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By *evilwolfCouple
over a year ago
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So isn't this nearly as risky as going bare
Cali
Interesting thought. Is there any difference between that and bareback? Not sure there is..."
Yoghurt and cranberry juice at the ready then...  
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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I know the point Cali is making but for me, personally, I don't think about it.
I would hate to be so worried about peoples hands, tongues and dicks that every time I go to a club I have to spray myself down with Lysol afterwards. I look after my own sexual health, and hope that others do too. As someone said on one of the bareback posts, all this we do on here is based on trust. Once thats gone, it really isn't fun any more. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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It doesn't worry me but I just as someone that gets condemned for my stance on bare play figured that many that were doing this were then demanding safe sex.  |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"It doesn't worry me but I just as someone that gets condemned for my stance on bare play figured that many that were doing this were then demanding safe sex. "
I wouldn't give the smallest part of a second to what people think of how I play. As long as I am happy and the guy/guys are happy, then its good.
I strongly suspect there are a lot of people who rely too heavily on the protective powers of condoms. As your post points out there are many other ways to catch STIs. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It doesn't worry me but I just as someone that gets condemned for my stance on bare play figured that many that were doing this were then demanding safe sex.
I wouldn't give the smallest part of a second to what people think of how I play. As long as I am happy and the guy/guys are happy, then its good.
I strongly suspect there are a lot of people who rely too heavily on the protective powers of condoms. As your post points out there are many other ways to catch STIs."
Definitely agree that some people think condoms make them indestructible, and that can be highlighted by some of the comments in bareback threads about not needing to be tested.
Cali...although you & I do play differently, I do respect your choice to play the way you do and your honesty about it. I personally couldn't go bare with all my meets but that's not because I don't want play bare to I just don't want to take the risks. You have weighed up the risks of how you play and have made a mature decision, and whilst I may choose to play differently and would advise others to use protection I would never condemn the way you play...I just personally couldn't enjoy myself with the increased risk at the back of my mind (plus the abstaining between meets/tests would drive me potty!!) x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I to be honest rarely play bare. I just refuse to say I do when I don't always. I just hadn't thought about the fingering play till someone mentioned it on a thread. So I watched and realised its a very common thing
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I to be honest rarely play bare. I just refuse to say I do when I don't always. I just hadn't thought about the fingering play till someone mentioned it on a thread. So I watched and realised its a very common thing
Cali"
May have to ask the nurses at the clinic when I next go for testing if they've any facts and figures...due to go later this month so will see what they say. It does make sense that there would be a risk, but I would guess it was lower like with oral...could be wrong though! |
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I'm an ex nurse
The most heart breaking cases I saw were people that thought they'd played safe
Fact people that use condoms are less likely to get tested
I do but I get tested regularly
The only safe sex is no sex
Nobody has the right to judge anyone what we choose to do is our rights
Got my tin hat on now lol
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm going to ask when I'm there tmw. X
Don't forget to clean your teeth. And nails. "
Lol I will be all squeaky clean. And I'm imagining it's similar to sharing sex toys.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A very good point cali, anyone that mentions bareback gets witch hunted and shot down yet this is just as risky and probablys happens just as if not more often.
The plain fact been that the only safe sex is no sex.
Each to there own. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i dont see it as any more high risk as going from cock to cock and sucking without a condom
everything sexual comes with risks its if your prepaired to take them |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Is it not because the chances in contracting HIV are negated once the bodily fluid has dried?
I understand HIV isn't the only STD, but it's the one we fear most.
There's so,e research into it somewhere |
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Cross contamination is a I point I've raised in every bare-back thread that I've responded to, in particular to the 'condom only police'.
Just think about it logically... what is the risk of a penis causing a tissue/skin abrasion compared to a hand/finger with rough skin, sharp or ragged finger nails?
And as mentioned, its quite common for hands/fingers to explore several sets of private parts without any protection or sanitation from one person to the next. The same applies to oral sex too!
I don't think anyone can specifically answer your question but there might be a clue in reading up on what safe-sex practice is REALLY supposed to be.
It seems to me that the swinging scene, or at least a lot of the people in the scene have stripped down the principal and practice of safe-sex to JUST a condom, while in reality being an active practicing swinger is everything that safe-sex is NOT  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Cross contamination is a I point I've raised in every bare-back thread that I've responded to, in particular to the 'condom only police'.
Just think about it logically... what is the risk of a penis causing a tissue/skin abrasion compared to a hand/finger with rough skin, sharp or ragged finger nails?
And as mentioned, its quite common for hands/fingers to explore several sets of private parts without any protection or sanitation from one person to the next. The same applies to oral sex too!
I don't think anyone can specifically answer your question but there might be a clue in reading up on what safe-sex practice is REALLY supposed to be.
It seems to me that the swinging scene, or at least a lot of the people in the scene have stripped down the principal and practice of safe-sex to JUST a condom, while in reality being an active practicing swinger is everything that safe-sex is NOT "
We have safe sex everytime. we always lock the doors to stop unwelcome guests |
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From memory a man is statistically less likely to catch something from a woman than a woman is from a man. Obviously some things are easier to spread than others. Also from memory I believe women who have femal sexual partners are statistically the the group with the lowest cases okf STIs.
So I would think that in a group situation a good hand wash is a good place to start.
Protection is down to the individual but as soon as you add a third person or more you increase the risk. I think common sense not paranoia is the way to go... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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okay been for my clinic visit today and I asked. was told that it's more risky than oral due to the increased risk of cross contamination. although if your taking cim then risks are similar
was told its same as risks with sharing sex toys. or a guy not swapping condoms between partners.
there is also the chance of being cut which increases the risks. although as with most things it would be very hard to state statistics on how things were caught as most people have done a variety of sex acts on the day of infection.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"its worth thinking about i guess.
next they will have a foot and mouth type tray on the floor everyone has to walk through  "
oh my. I've just laughed at the image. to me it's just part and parcel of the lifestyle. and accept that there are risks in everything that I may do.
but I was just thinking about it after all the grief I have had for admitting I would go bare if I wanted to
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"All the recent bareback threads got me thinking. I've been to 3 clubs in last few weeks and I want to know what the risks are when guys and girls are fingering different women.
It seems common a practise and no cleaning between pussy. Watched one lady finger 6 different ladies.
So isn't this nearly as risky as going bare
Cali"
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This is a good point Cali, as others have said no sexual practice is without risk, but I think the main issue is when the risk is compounded and then it rises exponentially.
So, people who allow unprotected finger contact are probably at the lower end of the risk spectrum, then those who have unprotected oral sex onto the barebackers.
I think it's unlikely those who engage in bareback encounters will insist on protected tongues and fingers, so they're 'opportunity' for contracting something is very much higher than say someone who is a soft swinger and insists on protected oral and digits.
I don't think we can afford to be cavalier about bareback sex just because all aspects of physical interaction has risks attached, because fans of bareback are also likely to be engaging in all the other activities that we all so enjoy  |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"its worth thinking about i guess.
next they will have a foot and mouth type tray on the floor everyone has to walk through
oh my. I've just laughed at the image. to me it's just part and parcel of the lifestyle. and accept that there are risks in everything that I may do.
but I was just thinking about it after all the grief I have had for admitting I would go bare if I wanted to
Cali"
We all take risks if you are having sex with multiple people wether you wear condoms or not.
If you are quite happy to tell people you play BB why let it get to you if someone doesn't agree with it.
It's your life, live it how you want and ignore people who tell you to do things their way. |
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"All the recent bareback threads got me thinking. I've been to 3 clubs in last few weeks and I want to know what the risks are when guys and girls are fingering different women.
It seems common a practise and no cleaning between pussy. Watched one lady finger 6 different ladies.
So isn't this nearly as risky as going bare
Cali"
I completely understand where you are going with this.
Hygiene is always going to be an issue, I mean don't you wonder who washes their hands or bits after visiting the loo at a club?
I mean I would never eat from the open bowl of peanuts at the bar either but plenty do!
Or for that matter after they've been for a ciggie! Eewwwww! |
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