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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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How many couples post safe sex but they really play bareback !!!
People say we play bareback with people they trust or on the 2nd meet !!! Who prefers bareback & why ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How many couples post safe sex but they really play bareback !!!
People say we play bareback with people they trust or on the 2nd meet !!! Who prefers bareback & why ? "
Tick Tock tick Tock |
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By *ss2011Man
over a year ago
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Yeah, I remember ages ago on a TV site someone wanted to meet but I didn't think they were using condoms in the pictures. I got a load of abuse and told they always use protection when I declined and brought it up.
I saw them on here recently, and every single picture was bareback! Got to be careful on that note. Only do it with a partner. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"How many couples post safe sex but they really play bareback !!!
People say we play bareback with people they trust or on the 2nd meet !!! Who prefers bareback & why ?
Tick Tock tick Tock "
too right... ticking timebomb...
especially with threads over the last few weeks that have highlighted some of the grave consequences that it can lead to...
people must think they are bulletproof..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How many couples post safe sex but they really play bareback !!!
People say we play bareback with people they trust or on the 2nd meet !!! Who prefers bareback & why ?
Tick Tock tick Tock
too right... ticking timebomb...
especially with threads over the last few weeks that have highlighted some of the grave consequences that it can lead to...
people must think they are bulletproof..
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that rhianna does |
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Only with each other.. never with anyone else always has to be safe. ALOT of men approaching us want bareback mind you... never met any of them as if they are that stupid with their own saftey they are not the sort for us..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not a chance in hell am i going in without my raincoat on and no way is another man going in my Misses without one either.
You tell us you dont do bareback in your profile and im sorry if you turn up without then your not having any fun with either of us.
Stupid, irresponsible (seeing as what it is we all do) and disrespectful. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How many couples post safe sex but they really play bareback !!!
People say we play bareback with people they trust or on the 2nd meet !!! Who prefers bareback & why ? "
Lol - can see where this one will go !!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why the heck does the word 'clean' always crop up in these bareback threads? You can have a bath three times a day and still get a STI. Cleanliness has nothing to do with it. Quite often when we quiz potential meets they will reply 'Always clean'  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have gone bb with meets and even before I swung with one night stands. I'm more careful now but will admit that there are times I think you know what. I want it bare
Even though I will mostly have full sex with protection. I do state that I have no occasion played bare and don't always do safe sex
I think this enables people to make their own choices whether to meet me
As to question I don't meet couple's but have recently had a fair few couples that write safe sex only. Yet have asked if the male can fill me. So I would Say lots say one thing but do another
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sorry - but 'bareback folks'? Idiots....no apologies, plain and simple....idiots!"
People who openly seek to call other people 'Idiots' for exercising the right of choice and free will are, in my opinion, 'idiots' themselves.
No apologies. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sorry - but 'bareback folks'? Idiots....no apologies, plain and simple....idiots!
Agree I block everybody that does "
Yet bet you play with loads of bare backers. Not one person I've played with bare says so on the profile. In fact most have had it in big letters that safe sex only.
If people were a little less judgement people maybe more happy to declare it.
Oh and still think bare backers on the whole are often more clued up about stds. As I have found that many that use condoms don't get checked often. And some even not at all.
I'm there every 4 to 6 weeks regardless. And I've not gone bare in months. You can normally tell when I have as I have a big break from playing.
I get tested often due to number of guys. Even though it's mostly oral.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sorry - but 'bareback folks'? Idiots....no apologies, plain and simple....idiots!
People who openly seek to call other people 'Idiots' for exercising the right of choice and free will are, in my opinion, 'idiots' themselves.
No apologies. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry - but 'bareback folks'? Idiots....no apologies, plain and simple....idiots!
People who openly seek to call other people 'Idiots' for exercising the right of choice and free will are, in my opinion, 'idiots' themselves.
No apologies.
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It should be , are themselves, idiots ! In my opinion ,
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To be honest the why I like it is simple.
Sex with a condom just feels so different and it spoils it but it's needed for most.
To me without being filled it becomes a pointless act almost. However I know that safe sex is required most of the time. So that's why I get more from oral than sex with a condom.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yet another bareback thread, as our choice we only play bareback with eachother, never with a meet but each to there own in what they choose to do.
Def loads on here that state safe sex only and yet ask for bareback or do it have also witnessed it at a club. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yet another bareback thread, as our choice we only play bareback with eachother, never with a meet but each to there own in what they choose to do.
Def loads on here that state safe sex only and yet ask for bareback or do it have also witnessed it at a club."
Don't be shocked ! I agree with you , have been contacted by lots who say safe on profile , having set them a trap 95% of the single men said they would do bareback , that's why all single guys are blocked |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yet another bareback thread, as our choice we only play bareback with eachother, never with a meet but each to there own in what they choose to do.
Def loads on here that state safe sex only and yet ask for bareback or do it have also witnessed it at a club.
Don't be shocked ! I agree with you , have been contacted by lots who say safe on profile , having set them a trap 95% of the single men said they would do bareback , that's why all single guys are blocked "
If some singleguys play bb then they are mad!!!!!
God no, I value my health and would never, ever play this way!!! |
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Each to their own, personally if someone I meet wants bareback (or turns up without condoms) no play.
I wouldn't meet anyone who openly plays bareback either (yes I know people lie) but if I was to have the unfortunate situation of a split condom....if it has to happen I'd rather it happen with someone who is as concerned for their sexual health as I am. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I will always have one or two play mates that I go bare with. I know the risks as I hope they would
Thing is once I was looking for a two guy cream pie. And I've never had so many messages for a meet. And not one didn't say safe sex
I've lost count of guys that have tried to go bare without me noticing too. Both on one on one meets. And clubs.
The one place that safe sex was well policed was when I went dogging. Any guy that had turned up without was turned away by the other guys let alone me
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Each to their own, personally if someone I meet wants bareback (or turns up without condoms) no play.
I wouldn't meet anyone who openly plays bareback either (yes I know people lie) but if I was to have the unfortunate situation of a split condom....if it has to happen I'd rather it happen with someone who is as concerned for their sexual health as I am."
Its not just health its your life after all! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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but if I was to have the unfortunate situation of a split condom....if it has to happen I'd rather it happen with someone who is as concerned for their sexual health as I am."
But this is my argument on this. Just because someone says they play safe. Doesn't mean they are safer than someone that says they go bare.
There is a couple I know from another site that do cream pie dogging meets. She has 20 plus guys a month with no condom and the guys are begging to get invites. Now 3 of their regulars I know and on their profiles state. Safe sex always. No exceptions.
Someone who would lie about that may not even be tested either.
Me personally I'd rather people felt safe enough To be honest.
I'm taking 2 guys to drop in clinic next week as been on here a year in one case and didn't think that he needed testing as he uses condoms. So I am showing them where and introducing them to the staff.
Wish more clubs did clinics inside them.
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but if I was to have the unfortunate situation of a split condom....if it has to happen I'd rather it happen with someone who is as concerned for their sexual health as I am.
But this is my argument on this. Just because someone says they play safe. Doesn't mean they are safer than someone that says they go bare
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As I said in my post, I know people lie... But I use my judgement with people. If a guy doesn't bring condoms to a meet then no play, or if he has to be told to put one on, then play stops..
Everyone should know there's no such thing as "safe" only "safer"...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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but if I was to have the unfortunate situation of a split condom....if it has to happen I'd rather it happen with someone who is as concerned for their sexual health as I am.
But this is my argument on this. Just because someone says they play safe. Doesn't mean they are safer than someone that says they go bare
As I said in my post, I know people lie... But I use my judgement with people. If a guy doesn't bring condoms to a meet then no play, or if he has to be told to put one on, then play stops..
Everyone should know there's no such thing as "safe" only "safer"... "
Safe should mean safe and not I think yo look clean, what the hell is look clean?!
Safe, safe, safe! Thats the only way.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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but if I was to have the unfortunate situation of a split condom....if it has to happen I'd rather it happen with someone who is as concerned for their sexual health as I am.
But this is my argument on this. Just because someone says they play safe. Doesn't mean they are safer than someone that says they go bare
As I said in my post, I know people lie... But I use my judgement with people. If a guy doesn't bring condoms to a meet then no play, or if he has to be told to put one on, then play stops..
Everyone should know there's no such thing as "safe" only "safer"...
Safe should mean safe and not I think yo look clean, what the hell is look clean?!
Safe, safe, safe! Thats the only way...."
Unless you stop off at a clinic on the way! |
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"Safe should mean safe and not I think yo look clean, what the hell is look clean?!
Safe, safe, safe! Thats the only way...."
I never mentioned anyone "looking clean" so not sure why the "what is looking clean" question
Condoms are not 100% safe, just safer than bareback. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Safe should mean safe and not I think yo look clean, what the hell is look clean?!
Safe, safe, safe! Thats the only way....
I never mentioned anyone "looking clean" so not sure why the "what is looking clean" question
Condoms are not 100% safe, just safer than bareback."
Not makeing comment that way on your posts, just that I hear people say they look/looked clean! WTF lol |
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"Safe should mean safe and not I think yo look clean, what the hell is look clean?!
Safe, safe, safe! Thats the only way....
I never mentioned anyone "looking clean" so not sure why the "what is looking clean" question
Condoms are not 100% safe, just safer than bareback.
Not makeing comment that way on your posts, just that I hear people say they look/looked clean! WTF lol"
Ah ok, just thought you were asking me cause you'd quoted me |
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By *sgigglersCouple
over a year ago
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I love unprotected sex but unless you know 100% where your meet has been since day 1 its not worth the risk so we play safe & use condoms. Fact remains though that bareback feels better and of course my wife & i go bareback with each other only.
In the porn industry actors only fuck within a tight circle (ooerr!!) of peers & get tested every 30 days. If one strays out of the circle the practice (and with it the trust) collapses.
Perhaps barebackers, in an attempt to shut up the holier than thou safe sex brigade could adopt a similar practice. (Naive? No. just a utopian scenario) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My only real annoyance on this subject is the assumption that those that choose to play bare are not looking after their sexual health.
Because I certainly do look out for my own sexual health.. yes I may no occasion take risks but only in the same way that sometimes I think to myself about speeding. Let's face it both choices could have varying consequences. From nothing to moderate to life changing to life ending
I am aware and because of the increased risk in my choices I get checked more often than many would. And that's more for other people than myself. As if I catch something then so be it. . Know the risks. But I wouldn't like to pass something on to someone else.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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When it comes down to people setting 'traps' to catch 'barebackers' I get the feeling that something has gone seriously awry with attitudes and perspective.
I'm done with bareback threads.
Peace Out.
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
Leicester |
For the record, we will not bareback on swinging meets, but I do wonder just how many of us were tested before barebacking with our current long-term partners? Okay some of you will have had a checkup, but I bet it's not a high percentage. If you didn't get tested before you had bareback sex with your current long-term partner, then you took the same risk as a barebacking swinger does - though the odds of them catching something obviously increase if they are doing it with multiple partners.
There is a biological imperative to fuck and breed. The sex act has never been without some risk, and the risk of catching something didn't stop our ancestors ...thankfully!
Leave the barebackers alone ...wish we had the courage to try it on a swing meet, but at the moment it's the stuff of fantasy. |
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Well ill prepare for the back lash now
Yes my username states bareback, yes in an ideal world we could all play bare with no fear of stds, pregnancy or other viral infections.
Yes I prefere the feeling of bare, and lets be right who doesnt.
I play safe I bring my own condoms,i get tested. If the right situation occured I would consider playing bare.
At least Im been honest, and would happily talk about bare as a fantasy and in just general chat to express my opinion |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"For the record, we will not bareback on swinging meets, but I do wonder just how many of us were tested before barebacking with our current long-term partners? Okay some of you will have had a checkup, but I bet it's not a high percentage. If you didn't get tested before you had bareback sex with your current long-term partner, then you took the same risk as a barebacking swinger does - though the odds of them catching something obviously increase if they are doing it with multiple partners.
There is a biological imperative to fuck and breed. The sex act has never been without some risk, and the risk of catching something didn't stop our ancestors ...thankfully!
Leave the barebackers alone ...wish we had the courage to try it on a swing meet, but at the moment it's the stuff of fantasy. "
A very balanced post.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well ill prepare for the back lash now
Yes my username states bareback, yes in an ideal world we could all play bare with no fear of stds, pregnancy or other viral infections.
Yes I prefere the feeling of bare, and lets be right who doesnt.
I play safe I bring my own condoms,i get tested. If the right situation occured I would consider playing bare.
At least Im been honest, and would happily talk about bare as a fantasy and in just general chat to express my opinion"
So what is 'the right situation'? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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we met here and before we play with each other without we got tested we get tested regularly.... but i feel that the attitude of people towards barebacking is something that makes people hide it. we only meet girls and yes we play safe. although as i don't use dental dams is it that safe will its my choice and only i am responsible for me. it may see simplistic but i believe everyone choices are there own and only worry about there choices if or when i meet them and decide i would like some fun with them x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How many couples post safe sex but they really play bareback !!!
People say we play bareback with people they trust or on the 2nd meet !!! Who prefers bareback & why ? "
We assume everyone lapses so take precautions accordingly. We are not naive in thinking condoms are all protecting but we prefer to use them as its one little extra for our own personal safety. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People do lie it's a fact , only today got asked to meet a cpl it said safe sex on profile ! Started chatting and it didn't feel right so set a trap in place ! Bingo straight way wanted bareback Anal !
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Interesting to see, I know the risks, in a few threads. So, what if those risks become a reality? What if its something serious? Something that will not go away with a perscription? Then what? You going to tell me your going to sit there and say, meh such is life, and roll with it?
I'm not saying anyone's clean or dirty I jus cant see the point in taking that risk for a few hours pleasure but each to their own I guess. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Interesting to see, I know the risks, in a few threads. So, what if those risks become a reality? What if its something serious? Something that will not go away with a perscription? Then what? You going to tell me your going to sit there and say, meh such is life, and roll with it?
I'm not saying anyone's clean or dirty I jus cant see the point in taking that risk for a few hours pleasure but each to their own I guess. "
Yes I would just think that is life..because to accept those risks I have to think about what if it was worst case scenario.. However I am also aware that you only life once... and life can have surprises around the corner. So I will live my life to the fullest.. and even at the worst.. Its not quite the death sentence it was..
So I have thought about the very worst and will cross that bridge should I have to.
The thing is I would assume everyone on here has thought about the what ifs... as your taking the same risks in reality. Unless your not having sex..
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Interesting to see, I know the risks, in a few threads. So, what if those risks become a reality? What if its something serious? Something that will not go away with a perscription? Then what? You going to tell me your going to sit there and say, meh such is life, and roll with it?
I'm not saying anyone's clean or dirty I jus cant see the point in taking that risk for a few hours pleasure but each to their own I guess.
Yes I would just think that is life..because to accept those risks I have to think about what if it was worst case scenario.. However I am also aware that you only life once... and life can have surprises around the corner. So I will live my life to the fullest.. and even at the worst.. Its not quite the death sentence it was..
So I have thought about the very worst and will cross that bridge should I have to.
The thing is I would assume everyone on here has thought about the what ifs... as your taking the same risks in reality. Unless your not having sex..
Cali"
I don't think you are a risk taker , more a statistic ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't think you are a risk taker , more a statistic ! "
What makes you say that.. I calculate my risks same as others..and choose to mostly not do full sex.. only oral..
Cali |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't think you are a risk taker , more a statistic !
What makes you say that.. I calculate my risks same as others..and choose to mostly not do full sex.. only oral..
Cali"
Ok the rational for my comment I presume the following ,
When you have full sex you are happy for bareback ,
When you have oral sex you are happy if the guy has bareback sex with others !
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By *arry_UkMan
over a year ago
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Who doesn't prefer bareback but I would never risk it, unless I was in long term relationship and knew the other person was clean too.
Too many people taking risks unnecessarily ... Just my two pence |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't think you are a risk taker , more a statistic !
What makes you say that.. I calculate my risks same as others..and choose to mostly not do full sex.. only oral..
Cali
Ok the rational for my comment I presume the following ,
When you have full sex you are happy for bareback ,
When you have oral sex you are happy if the guy has bareback sex with others !
Harry "
I rarely have full sex at all.. and I have barebacked very small amount of guys... 1 this year.. 2 last.. so hardly massive amounts.. and the one this year I have been meeting for over 18 months.
Oral... do you use condoms??? as actually every guy I have ever sucked has said... SAFE SEX ONLY on his profile.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't think you are a risk taker , more a statistic !
What makes you say that.. I calculate my risks same as others..and choose to mostly not do full sex.. only oral..
Cali
Ok the rational for my comment I presume the following ,
When you have full sex you are happy for bareback ,
When you have oral sex you are happy if the guy has bareback sex with others !
Harry
I rarely have full sex at all.. and I have barebacked very small amount of guys... 1 this year.. 2 last.. so hardly massive amounts.. and the one this year I have been meeting for over 18 months.
Oral... do you use condoms??? as actually every guy I have ever sucked has said... SAFE SEX ONLY on his profile.
Cali"
Oral I meant the guys you have oral with you would still have oral knowing they have bareback penetrative sex vaginslmor anal
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I really must be having a blonde day... I assume most people I play with plays safe... but am not naive enough to think that they actually do.
I would of course play with the guys orally that I have barebacked... but most guys I meet say they do safe sex only.
I ask again.. do you use condoms for oral???? I dont.. but dont know many that do either...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I really must be having a blonde day... I assume most people I play with plays safe... but am not naive enough to think that they actually do.
I would of course play with the guys orally that I have barebacked... but most guys I meet say they do safe sex only.
I ask again.. do you use condoms for oral???? I dont.. but dont know many that do either...
Cali"
You haven't answered my question lets try annother way ,
We meet I tell you I only do bareback ! Are you still going to suck me off ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We meet I tell you I only do bareback ! Are you still going to suck me off ? "
Most likely as most people go bare and dont actually admit it.. or at least with single guys..
and the risk with oral sex is very slim... there is little difference
and you have answered my question.. do you play bare orally.. if so your taking the same risks there as I do..
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By (user no longer on site)
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We meet I tell you I only do bareback ! Are you still going to suck me off ?
Most likely as most people go bare and dont actually admit it.. or at least with single guys..
and the risk with oral sex is very slim... there is little difference
and you have answered my question.. do you play bare orally.. if so your taking the same risks there as I do..
Cali"
No am not taking the same risk , I am risk awair , you are risk indifferent , aka a statistic |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No am not taking the same risk , I am risk awair , you are risk indifferent , aka a statistic "
Sorry but your reasoning is very flawed.. if you dont use protection then you are taking the same risks.. because people lie...
All of us are just a statistic.. but I am less delusional that you. |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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"No am not taking the same risk , I am risk awair , you are risk indifferent , aka a statistic "
It seems to me that you are trying to use the word statistic in a derogatory and dismissive way. Cali is statistic in what way? Are you trying to suggest that there is an inevitability about her behaviour, or that you have the gift of premonition? Hope something doesn't take you by surprise, bite you on the ass and make you a statistic someday. |
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penetrative sex condoms unless its a long term partner.
Orally I use no protection and not ashamed to admit it, as I have yet to see anybody in a club use condoms or dental dams.
I am aware of the risk, hence very regular check ups at the GUM clinic and I wont give oral if I have any mouth sores in any way as this increases the risk. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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HERE IS A story
we met a sexy girl and katie and her played wild and dirty / having met her before in a sex party with some random guy / anyway cut story short she starting been a nasty bitch saying we gave her std even though she was doing anybody at the party and so was her fella we never go bareback and we met her for the first time in 4 months in a club on friday / she tryied to apoligise and say it was her mistake but too late DAMAGE WAS DONE even her new fella asked katie if he could take her to toilet and wank over her /// hmmmm what a tosser anyway were a hat and dont look back is what we say xx katie @ mark
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over a year ago
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I don't think you are a risk taker , more a statistic !
What makes you say that.. I calculate my risks same as others..and choose to mostly not do full sex.. only oral..
Cali"
What I never understand that has been alluded to in other posts, in relationships, couples use protection for a few weeks or months, then magically stop using it, as if the fact that they have been in a relationship, any diseases have gone |
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No am not taking the same risk , I am risk awair , you are risk indifferent , aka a statistic
Sorry but your reasoning is very flawed.. if you dont use protection then you are taking the same risks.. because people lie...
All of us are just a statistic.. but I am less delusional that you."
condoms aren't always reliable. What if they split? We are all taking risks. |
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over a year ago
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No am not taking the same risk , I am risk awair , you are risk indifferent , aka a statistic
Sorry but your reasoning is very flawed.. if you dont use protection then you are taking the same risks.. because people lie...
All of us are just a statistic.. but I am less delusional that you."
I know people lie caught two today , I always offer the opertunity of bareback sex and yes 95% say yes ! They get blocked !
You however would still have the meet if I have understood you correct !
And you see this as low risk , that's deluded ! |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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What I never understand that has been alluded to in other posts, in relationships, couples use protection for a few weeks or months, then magically stop using it, as if the fact that they have been in a relationship, any diseases have gone"
Precisely the point I tried to make earlier on in the thread - it's an illusion of safety brought about by familiarity ...and it can catch you out. |
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over a year ago
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not as deluded as thinking that because you meet people that say they dont play bare means they are safe.
I have no delusions.. but oral is low risk compared to other things. I get tested every 4-6 weeks...
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over a year ago
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"No am not taking the same risk , I am risk awair , you are risk indifferent , aka a statistic
It seems to me that you are trying to use the word statistic in a derogatory and dismissive way. Cali is statistic in what way? Are you trying to suggest that there is an inevitability about her behaviour, or that you have the gift of premonition? Hope something doesn't take you by surprise, bite you on the ass and make you a statistic someday."
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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"No am not taking the same risk , I am risk awair , you are risk indifferent , aka a statistic
It seems to me that you are trying to use the word statistic in a derogatory and dismissive way. Cali is statistic in what way? Are you trying to suggest that there is an inevitability about her behaviour, or that you have the gift of premonition? Hope something doesn't take you by surprise, bite you on the ass and make you a statistic someday.
Please feel free to save you're consern for someone else "
Isn't that precisely the attitude that you demonstrated towards Cali? I'm free to show concern for whoever I like ...that is my nature and it has served me well. I'd rather be empathic and show concern for someone than be a judgemental bigot anyday. |
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"No am not taking the same risk , I am risk awair , you are risk indifferent , aka a statistic
It seems to me that you are trying to use the word statistic in a derogatory and dismissive way. Cali is statistic in what way? Are you trying to suggest that there is an inevitability about her behaviour, or that you have the gift of premonition? Hope something doesn't take you by surprise, bite you on the ass and make you a statistic someday.
Please feel free to save you're consern for someone else
Isn't that precisely the attitude that you demonstrated towards Cali? I'm free to show concern for whoever I like ...that is my nature and it has served me well. I'd rather be empathic and show concern for someone than be a judgemental bigot anyday."
You are perfectly free to do what you like and I defend that , but i thik you confuse me with someone else ! |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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"You are perfectly free to do what you like and I defend that , but i thik you confuse me with someone else ! "
No, I am not confused but you certainly appear to be so. Did you, or did you not, judge Cali as a statistic? |
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"You are perfectly free to do what you like and I defend that , but i thik you confuse me with someone else !
No, I am not confused but you certainly appear to be so. Did you, or did you not, judge Cali as a statistic?"
I have been called worse.. and I am in good company as all of us on here that choose to have "risky" sex could be a statistic...
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"You are perfectly free to do what you like and I defend that , but i thik you confuse me with someone else !
No, I am not confused but you certainly appear to be so. Did you, or did you not, judge Cali as a statistic?"
I am not indifferent or intolerant of other people _iews , I have agreed with quite a lot of what Cali has said , my comment as to a statistic wasn't meant derogatory but as a statement of fact , that I stand by !
You can name call all you like , but do it within the site rules! I think you mistake me for someone else because I don't care what your personal opinion of me is ! Now for me I care not to listen to you , so will respond to you no further !
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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"You are perfectly free to do what you like and I defend that , but i thik you confuse me with someone else !
No, I am not confused but you certainly appear to be so. Did you, or did you not, judge Cali as a statistic?
I am not indifferent or intolerant of other people _iews , I have agreed with quite a lot of what Cali has said , my comment as to a statistic wasn't meant derogatory but as a statement of fact , that I stand by !
You can name call all you like , but do it within the site rules! I think you mistake me for someone else because I don't care what your personal opinion of me is ! Now for me I care not to listen to you , so will respond to you no further !
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Which site rule, pertaining to which incident of name calling?
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"Sorry - but 'bareback folks'? Idiots....no apologies, plain and simple....idiots!
People who openly seek to call other people 'Idiots' for exercising the right of choice and free will are, in my opinion, 'idiots' themselves.
No apologies.
It should be , are themselves, idiots ! In my opinion ,
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"Sorry - but 'bareback folks'? Idiots....no apologies, plain and simple....idiots!
People who openly seek to call other people 'Idiots' for exercising the right of choice and free will are, in my opinion, 'idiots' themselves.
No apologies.
It should be , are themselves, idiots ! In my opinion ,
If you're going to be pedantic about other people's grammar, you could at least be more pedantic about your own spelling "
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over a year ago
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we all love it bare, infact im sure we have all done someone bare when we most certainly shouldnt of whether it be alcohol or just pure temptation.
but to do so with strangers on here who probably have the more sex than the average person in general is just idiotic.
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over a year ago
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to be honest I think most on here would be cleaner than picking up a guy from a normal night out.
they may have more sex but normally get checked more often. |
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over a year ago
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You never get any sort of agreement on bareback threads, we choose to do it with eachother but only safesex with meets however thats our choice and people that choose to play bareback have the right to choose to do that.
But you will get different comments from different people who have different _iews on all subjects none of which are either right or wrong as its there opinion but some tend to try enforce there _iew more forcefully than others.
At the end of the day its down to each and everyones personel choice what they do and what risks they choose to take as long as its all consenting adults thats involved and they also no what risks they are taking. |
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Every time time there is a bareback thread it always ends up running round the same path, so this got me thinking;
Q. All those who say they only play bare in a relationship, did you make sure the partner was fully tested, clean and had not played between test and results, before only playing with them?????
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"Every time time there is a bareback thread it always ends up running round the same path, so this got me thinking;
Q. All those who say they only play bare in a relationship, did you make sure the partner was fully tested, clean and had not played between test and results, before only playing with them?????
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We only play bare with each other and been together 20 years in that time it has ONLY been each other that we play bare with !! Yes we may be cautious of people that do it in a relationship but that have had lots of relationships if you get my drift.
But we play safe only for fun and although started years ago its not a weekly thing or anywhere near that for us..
And no we weren't swingers before we met either we got into it a few years after we met.. |
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So many judgmental people on here but as it goes that's people for you. We don't like and so bareback, if anyone has a problem with that then don't meet us. Thankfully this is a pastime for us because we actually have a life... for some it seems to be full time. Now tell me if the risk of STD is that great why are there so many pregnant women and new born babies and how many people used condoms in the "real world?! Also how many use condoms while giving head?! |
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"So many judgmental people on here but as it goes that's people for you. We don't like and so bareback, if anyone has a problem with that then don't meet us. Thankfully this is a pastime for us because we actually have a life... for some it seems to be full time. Now tell me if the risk of STD is that great why are there so many pregnant women and new born babies and how many people used condoms in the "real world?! Also how many use condoms while giving head?! "
I'm not sure what people getting pregnant has to do with the risk of STI transmission?
I'm not judgemental and very much believe each to their own. I take an informed risk when I give oral..I don't let guys I play with cum in my mouth, and I choose to always use condoms for sex and always will and I go for testing every couple of months, but I'm also aware any sex is a risk. I think as long as everyone is honest about barebacking from the start..i.e on their profile then like you say people can choose whether to contact and meet you or not. |
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Everybody on here is an adult and free to make their own choices, and should be able to do so without being judged by others ad infinitum....
My username is pretty much a giveaway as to what I like - my preference is stated in my profile text, and it's up to those who choose to respond to me to decide how they want to play....
If they're happy to play bareback, then that's fine; if they prefer to use condoms, then that's fine too - as long as it's established beforehand, then there's no confusion or awkward moments when things reach that stage....
That said, I've had a few meets where although the use of condoms was originally specified, when it's come down to it, they've been dispensed with - all the other party's instigation....
Once with a couple where the husband was taking photos, and asked his wife to let me creampie her - a suggestion to which she readily agreed....
Once with a woman who's husband was away, and, at his suggestion, had invited me to visit her one afternoon - when I reached for the condom, she told me I could have her bareback as long as I didn't cum inside her. Not being able to guarantee that I'd be able to pull out in time, I used the condom - which, ironically, was in tatters when I withdrew after we'd finished....
And most recently, with a new playmate, where our initial meet was only supposed to be for a coffee and chat - so I didn't take any condoms with me. One of her rules was 'strictly no bareback' - yet, as one thing led to another, she alternately went from sucking to straddling me until I warned her she was likely to get her pussy filled if she carried on.... |
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"Every time time there is a bareback thread it always ends up running round the same path, so this got me thinking;
Q. All those who say they only play bare in a relationship, did you make sure the partner was fully tested, clean and had not played between test and results, before only playing with them?????
We only play bare with each other and been together 20 years in that time it has ONLY been each other that we play bare with !! Yes we may be cautious of people that do it in a relationship but that have had lots of relationships if you get my drift.
But we play safe only for fun and although started years ago its not a weekly thing or anywhere near that for us..
And no we weren't swingers before we met either we got into it a few years after we met.."
Please dont think Im been disrespectful with my question, was just a thought that away from swinging how many people would ask the question as a relationship progressed from condoms to bare.
We are all able to make our own choices, as to use or not and as long as we are all honest, respectful and tested wether a 'barebacker' or not, there is no need to be critical of others |
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"No thanks, never had an STD and not planning on getting one either. I don't like condoms, but I like the idea of getting an STD even less."
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over a year ago
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I don't think people were being judemental in the slightest. I know I wasn't being so. I jus find it hilarious that people are willing to take a risk that could/would have a potential serious risk long term.
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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"Sorry - but 'bareback folks'? Idiots....no apologies, plain and simple....idiots!
Agree I block everybody that does "
Well there have certainly been some judgemental comments, as in the post above, and from those that quoted it and agreed with it.
It would help if the statement: "..'bareback folk'? Idiots..." was targeted properly, and clarified by allowing for exceptions to this sweeping generalisation.
Would be parents in stable, loving, long-term safe relationships; are they idiots? How about the young couples who lost there virginity to each other, and have never barebacked with another person, how about you, and how about me ,etcetera, etcetera. Do you have children? Are you an idiot?
Say what you mean clearly, and qualify your statement properly, then perhaps you wouldn't offend us less judgemental types... |
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"Sorry - but 'bareback folks'? Idiots....no apologies, plain and simple....idiots!
Agree I block everybody that does
Well there have certainly been some judgemental comments, as in the post above, and from those that quoted it and agreed with it.
It would help if the statement: "..'bareback folk'? Idiots..." was targeted properly, and clarified by allowing for exceptions to this sweeping generalisation.
Would be parents in stable, loving, long-term safe relationships; are they idiots? How about the young couples who lost there virginity to each other, and have never barebacked with another person, how about you, and how about me ,etcetera, etcetera. Do you have children? Are you an idiot?
Say what you mean clearly, and qualify your statement properly, then perhaps you wouldn't offend us less judgemental types..."
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Obviously bareback refers to swing meets. This is a swing site. Everyone knows that the term bareback refers to on here. It's blatantly obvious. Freedom of Choice etc are overused terms. Freedoms are fine as long as they don't harm or kill others. Practising bareback with folks we don't know for casual sex is blatantly risky. No thinking human being could possibly agree with that. Fact. |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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"Obviously bareback refers to swing meets. This is a swing site. Everyone knows that the term bareback refers to on here. It's blatantly obvious. Freedom of Choice etc are overused terms. Freedoms are fine as long as they don't harm or kill others. Practising bareback with folks we don't know for casual sex is blatantly risky. No thinking human being could possibly agree with that. Fact."
It's still bad manners to go round dismissing people who don't make the same choices as you, as idiots!!... |
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The professed and preferred practice of this with strangers is evidently risky in the extreme. So perhaps the term isn't too far fetched... To rephrase, the general, preferred and professed practice of bareback sex with strangers is such high risk, with such high hazard, sometimes fatal - that it IS an idiotic practice, in my opinion. As I say, just IMO, but perhaps hard to justify (unless applying overused terms such as 'Freedom of Choice) |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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I've seen a few supposedly safe playing couples, who may not bareback in clubs or on meets, but they think nothing of allowing another guy to finger and play with the female half's pussy ...when a couple of minutes previously, the guy who has been asked to play has been wanking, and playing with himself, probably at times leaking cum all over the place ...there are always going to be risks when having fun |
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I agree R & C. We've seen this too. Perhaps a bit 'boring', but when we meet we try to be as aware as possible at what folks are doing with fingers/hygiene etc. Guys we've met would verify this. Nothing is 100% safe. Protecting ones'self and one's partner are only human actions. It would be great not to have to worry about such things, but... |
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Afraid that there are just times that I will take risks. Not recently but I am certainly guilty of having unprotected sex with someone I don't know
Why.. well because it happened. I'm a little more sensible these days but will never totally rule it out. But as I said on another thread if I do that I then don't play with others till I am all clear
It maybe risky but it's my risk. And the person choosing to go bare with me.
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"The professed and preferred practice of this with strangers is evidently risky in the extreme. So perhaps the term isn't too far fetched... To rephrase, the general, preferred and professed practice of bareback sex with strangers is such high risk, with such high hazard, sometimes fatal - that it IS an idiotic practice, in my opinion. As I say, just IMO, but perhaps hard to justify (unless applying overused terms such as 'Freedom of Choice)"
Totally agree |
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"The professed and preferred practice of this with strangers is evidently risky in the extreme. So perhaps the term isn't too far fetched... To rephrase, the general, preferred and professed practice of bareback sex with strangers is such high risk, with such high hazard, sometimes fatal - that it IS an idiotic practice, in my opinion. As I say, just IMO, but perhaps hard to justify (unless applying overused terms such as 'Freedom of Choice)
Totally agree "
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"Afraid that there are just times that I will take risks. Not recently but I am certainly guilty of having unprotected sex with someone I don't know
Why.. well because it happened. I'm a little more sensible these days but will never totally rule it out. But as I said on another thread if I do that I then don't play with others till I am all clear
It maybe risky but it's my risk. And the person choosing to go bare with me.
Cali"
Last paragraph I totally agree with and bravo for saying you take risks , but you at least tell people ! We miss the op here it' was about people who say safe sex but don't play safe sex !
You don't fall into this group |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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Yes, bareback sex with strangers is a risk, but there are an awful lot of people having bareback sex with strangers, all over the world, every day ...this has always been the case, throughout our history on this planet. Fact. If it were such a ridiculously high hazard, as you seem to be suggesting, why aren't the death rates much higher? Surely the world's population would have made itself extinct by now? I certainly don't want to catch anything, but you have to accept that the only completely safe sex, is no sex at all. Even HIV and AIDS is not always the death sentence it once was... |
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Yes, people do do it all over the world. That's why AIDS etc rates are so high worldwide. But here we're lucky to have access to protective measures and ready education to inform us of the dangers. It's blatantly and undeniably a fact: Bare-back sex is extremely dangerous for sexual health and could be fatal. Those are the hard facts. As I say, it would be a nicer world if this wasn't the case, but this is the real world and those are the facts. |
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over a year ago
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"Yes, people do do it all over the world. That's why AIDS etc rates are so high worldwide. But here we're lucky to have access to protective measures and ready education to inform us of the dangers. It's blatantly and undeniably a fact: Bare-back sex is extremely dangerous for sexual health and could be fatal. Those are the hard facts. As I say, it would be a nicer world if this wasn't the case, but this is the real world and those are the facts. "
But the worlds population is still growing, so your argument doesn't quite add up. Britain has the world's third highest proportion of sexually active teens, and the UK was until very recently, the teenage pregnancy capital of Europe. Teenagers don't usually get pregnant without having had unsafe sex - where are all the deaths? Come on, I'm not trying to defend barebacking as a completely safe sex practice, but it can be, otherwise there would be no babies born, and no teenage mothers who survived long enough to take care of them. You have to get this in perspective; barebacking has some risk, but it shouldn't always be the scary taboo that you seem to be making it out to be. Getting into your car and driving to work in the morning can be dangerous for your health, and it too could be fatal ...and sometimes is.
Allow people to take their own calculated risks, and please don't dismiss them as idiots for doing so ...otherwise you are in danger of turning it into a bit of a witchunt |
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Bareback threads always go on and on lol its a subject that people need to agree to disagree on, people will do what they want to do doesnt matter how many times its brought up or ranted about they will still choose to do what they want to do. |
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Apparently there are moves afoot to ban unsafe in American adult films - took them long enough!
Unsafe casually means one of two things - a life long std or an unplanned / unwanted pregnancy.
Why expose yourself to one of those or both for a few a few minutes of transient pleasure?
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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Unsafe casually means one of two things - a life long std or an unplanned / unwanted pregnancy.
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So every incidence of casual, unsafe sex results in either an std or unplanned /unwanted pregnancy, does it???
What a bizarre statement!!. Clearly Nonsense |
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"Apparently there are moves afoot to ban unsafe in American adult films - took them long enough!
Unsafe casually means one of two things - a life long std or an unplanned / unwanted pregnancy.
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I do not watch any porn with condoms.. as I like creampie porn... it will still be available.. just amateur which is better anyway..
And I have played bare a lot in my life time.. not had a std.. EVER
And the other well thats what I take my contraception for.
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Unsafe casually means one of two things - a life long std or an unplanned / unwanted pregnancy.
So every incidence of casual, unsafe sex results in either an std or unplanned /unwanted pregnancy, does it???
What a bizarre statement!!. Clearly Nonsense "
Obviously not EVERY "incident" and it's likely a few times out of ten those reckless enough to bb casually will escape unscathed..
Wheather you choose to admit it or not it's that that type of caviler complacency that sets the scene for either of the two or both to occur though!
would image most would prefer to enjoy safe play and not deal with going to an std clinic when their bits start to ooze and puss or booking an appointment to "get rid" at the local abortion clinic ..or both |
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over a year ago
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Unsafe casually means one of two things - a life long std or an unplanned / unwanted pregnancy. "
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So every incidence of casual, unsafe sex results in either an std or unplanned /unwanted pregnancy, does it???"
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What a bizarre statement!!. Clearly Nonsense "
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Obviously not EVERY "incident" and it's likely a few times out of ten those reckless enough to bb casually will escape unscathed..
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So you're backtracking then? Because you did say that "Unsafe casually means one of two things" ...so a few times out of ten a barebacker might escape unscathed? ...;-) Hmmm, you seem to be unsure of your facts; where is your evidence /statistics etc? |
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Unsafe casually means one of two things - a life long std or an unplanned / unwanted pregnancy.
So every incidence of casual, unsafe sex results in either an std or unplanned /unwanted pregnancy, does it???
What a bizarre statement!!. Clearly Nonsense
Obviously not EVERY "incident" and it's likely a few times out of ten those reckless enough to bb casually will escape unscathed..
So you're backtracking then? Because you did say that "Unsafe casually means one of two things" ...so a few times out of ten a barebacker might escape unscathed? ...;-) Hmmm, you seem to be unsure of your facts; where is your evidence /statistics etc?"
Didn't "back track" merely acknowledged some of what you said rings true - some are lucky enough to escape unscathed but it's still remains causal bb is dangerous and an unnecessary risk in a world with condom ubiquity.
What you do and the risks you expose yourself to are you're own business - it is wrong and pernicious however to pervade an attitude of consequence free unsafe sex - berating others with nit-picking doesn't really bolster your point.. but yeah we'll agree to disagree |
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over a year ago
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I think everyone should take responsibility for their own sexual health, and berating people for not using condoms is useless. Just don't meet them!
I am aware that some men do try and sneak in 'unclothed' so to speak, but I have never heard of a women forcing a man NOT to wear one. |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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Didn't "back track" merely acknowledged some of what you said rings true - some are lucky enough to escape unscathed but it's still remains causal bb is dangerous and an unnecessary risk in a world with condom ubiquity.
What you do and the risks you expose yourself to are you're own business - it is wrong and pernicious however to pervade an attitude of consequence free unsafe sex - berating others with nit-picking doesn't really bolster your point.. but yeah we'll agree to disagree "
Pernicious is overstating things a bit; I'm merely trying to inject some balance into a debate which seems to have degenerated into a witch-hunt against barebackers. I don't need to bolster my point by nit-picking; there is plenty of evidence, which backs my statements up, to show that a great deal of unsafe sex is indeed consequence free.
We choose not do bareback in clubs, or on swing meets, but if others choose to do so, then why do you make it your business to judge them?. Why be so negative about consensual bareback sex? It doesn't make sense to me, that so many have bought into this climate of fear which surrounds the subject of bareback sex ...the most natural thing in the world...
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"My only real annoyance on this subject is the assumption that those that choose to play bare are not looking after their sexual health.
Because I certainly do look out for my own sexual health.. yes I may no occasion take risks but only in the same way that sometimes I think to myself about speeding. Let's face it both choices could have varying consequences. From nothing to moderate to life changing to life ending
I am aware and because of the increased risk in my choices I get checked more often than many would. And that's more for other people than myself. As if I catch something then so be it. . Know the risks. But I wouldn't like to pass something on to someone else.
Cali"
It is just that those who take risk in a closed community endanger the whole community!
Diseases spread quickly and it is impossible to get the visibility of whom has taken risks with whom on here and other sites!
..people want the fun with minimum risk for the sake of their kids and family...no drama just fun... |
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We think its a stupid risk and one we would never take... But each to their own.. swingers should know better but if people are happy with the risk go for it..
However if you do in a commnity like this then you all should have the balls and convictiin in your decision to play bare to tell everyone that you contact that thats is what you do. for purposes of safety its only fair. if meeting people that dont do bare do you take a full list of everyone you have had bare with.. and each of them etc.no probably not as thats not practical. its all the same when you spread it out like that its a massive risk and not one we would ever take.. and yes we only do safe... and each potentional meet we check veris and theirs.. if he is veried by people we have doubts about we dont meet... Had one last week... said he used condom but when we saw one couple he had met the cleanliness and health of them neant we wouldnt meet him. plenty have met them but thats our choice... its our health and here for our fun and safe fun only.. people should just make it clear if they play bare so we can all make our own choices... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We don't bareback but we made an exception once with very close friends who had never swung before in their 20 years together. Also we'd not swung in 4 years before getting it on.
We'll never do it again with anyone else and as we only want to play with people we know and trust, wouldn't expect our playmates to expect anything less. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Lol these bareback threads never fail to amuse at the end of the day its down to peoples choice how they play and who they choose to play with, no amount of ranting is going to change that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes, people do do it all over the world. That's why AIDS etc rates are so high worldwide. But here we're lucky to have access to protective measures and ready education to inform us of the dangers. It's blatantly and undeniably a fact: Bare-back sex is extremely dangerous for sexual health and could be fatal. Those are the hard facts. As I say, it would be a nicer world if this wasn't the case, but this is the real world and those are the facts.
But the worlds population is still growing, so your argument doesn't quite add up. Britain has the world's third highest proportion of sexually active teens, and the UK was until very recently, the teenage pregnancy capital of Europe. Teenagers don't usually get pregnant without having had unsafe sex - where are all the deaths? Come on, I'm not trying to defend barebacking as a completely safe sex practice, but it can be, otherwise there would be no babies born, and no teenage mothers who survived long enough to take care of them. You have to get this in perspective; barebacking has some risk, but it shouldn't always be the scary taboo that you seem to be making it out to be. Getting into your car and driving to work in the morning can be dangerous for your health, and it too could be fatal ...and sometimes is.
Allow people to take their own calculated risks, and please don't dismiss them as idiots for doing so ...otherwise you are in danger of turning it into a bit of a witchunt"
It's really quiote simple: Not every time one has barback sex will one get an STD, but the chances of getting one are hugely increased if going bareback. Also some STDs are fatal. These are the facts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't think people were being judemental in the slightest. I know I wasn't being so. I jus find it hilarious that people are willing to take a risk that could/would have a potential serious risk long term.
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over a year ago
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Not one for stats but surely if you adopt our chosen lifestyle the risks are going to be higher than in the "normal" world if you are actively barebaking! Yes you can argue that it only takes the one horizontal jog but if you are actively at it with a number of individuals then you are bound to be statistically at a higher risk especially if you don't know your sexual partner all that well and take them on facevalue. Do you really know they are fully tested and in the know as to whether they are STI free? Some STI's lay dormant for a period of time. Yes you get tested but are you aware of those STI's that lay dormant? You go bareback you get tested a week or so later but the reality is yes you may get a negative but do you really know your negative on all fronts? If I was barebaking I'd happily be getting tested at least once a month jus to stay on top of the risks. How many of you are in the know fully about STI's and how many of you are playing Russian roulette? |
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"Not one for stats but surely if you adopt our chosen lifestyle the risks are going to be higher than in the "normal" world if you are actively barebaking! Yes you can argue that it only takes the one horizontal jog but if you are actively at it with a number of individuals then you are bound to be statistically at a higher risk especially if you don't know your sexual partner all that well and take them on facevalue. Do you really know they are fully tested and in the know as to whether they are STI free? Some STI's lay dormant for a period of time. Yes you get tested but are you aware of those STI's that lay dormant? You go bareback you get tested a week or so later but the reality is yes you may get a negative but do you really know your negative on all fronts? If I was barebaking I'd happily be getting tested at least once a month jus to stay on top of the risks. How many of you are in the know fully about STI's and how many of you are playing Russian roulette? "
Absolutely Agree. I can't believe that these blatant, undeniable facts about the ruls seem to be lsot on many. Facts are facts and the risk is HUGELY increased for the barebacker and possiblythose they meet afterwards. That some don't get this is truly alarming...end |
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over a year ago
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"Not one for stats but surely if you adopt our chosen lifestyle the risks are going to be higher than in the "normal" world if you are actively barebaking! Yes you can argue that it only takes the one horizontal jog but if you are actively at it with a number of individuals then you are bound to be statistically at a higher risk especially if you don't know your sexual partner all that well and take them on facevalue. Do you really know they are fully tested and in the know as to whether they are STI free? Some STI's lay dormant for a period of time. Yes you get tested but are you aware of those STI's that lay dormant? You go bareback you get tested a week or so later but the reality is yes you may get a negative but do you really know your negative on all fronts? If I was barebaking I'd happily be getting tested at least once a month jus to stay on top of the risks. How many of you are in the know fully about STI's and how many of you are playing Russian roulette? "
I knowingly play. I'm aware of the need to wait for clear results. I love bare sex. So much so I'd rather not have full sex as without being filled its kinda pointless. I do on occasion but I find oral sex more fulfilling than safe sex
I don't have hundreds bare. In fact it's only 3 in two years. 5 if you master and a partner
I will always do what I want. I have 3 guys currently that I'm tempted to have a cream pie session with. But I've not decided yet.
It is more risky but it's my risk and those I choose to play with. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"How many couples post safe sex but they really play bareback !!!
People say we play bareback with people they trust or on the 2nd meet !!! Who prefers bareback & why ? "
without profile picking..... I think the most interesting bit is this
"we prefer to PLAY skin to skin(BAREBACK) fun with couples but its not set in stone & always safe sex with single guys !!!"
as if the assumption is that single guys aren't as "clean" as couples....
if you are playing bareback... you are playing bareback... regardless of being a couple.. a single girl or a single guy!
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over a year ago
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"Not one for stats but surely if you adopt our chosen lifestyle the risks are going to be higher than in the "normal" world if you are actively barebaking! Yes you can argue that it only takes the one horizontal jog but if you are actively at it with a number of individuals then you are bound to be statistically at a higher risk especially if you don't know your sexual partner all that well and take them on facevalue. Do you really know they are fully tested and in the know as to whether they are STI free? Some STI's lay dormant for a period of time. Yes you get tested but are you aware of those STI's that lay dormant? You go bareback you get tested a week or so later but the reality is yes you may get a negative but do you really know your negative on all fronts? If I was barebaking I'd happily be getting tested at least once a month jus to stay on top of the risks. How many of you are in the know fully about STI's and how many of you are playing Russian roulette? "
Unfortunately all testing does is tell you whether your going to live, die or spend the rest of your life in discomfort.
That's not to say that testing isn't of paramount importance, just the bottom line.
An S.T.I test is the same as an M.O.T, in as much as it's only holds good until you leave the building, after that all bets are off.
Whatever happens to your vehicle later in the day matters not a jot, it was O.K when you got it tested.
The same with an S.T.I test, negative results on a Friday, pick up an S.T.I on the Saturday and then carry on barebacking until your next test when they tell you your positive.
Doesn't really work does it?
You can't be 100% safe but you can be as safe as possible and that isn't bareback!
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over a year ago
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If someone doesn't understand how testing works then it is risky. You can't get an all clear for weeks. Sometimes month's.
More scary to me those that think playing safe excludes them from needing testing.  |
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over a year ago
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"How many couples post safe sex but they really play bareback !!!
People say we play bareback with people they trust or on the 2nd meet !!! Who prefers bareback & why ? "
I say quite a few play bareback. I've had meets with 13 couples/ladies over the past 4 years, all of whom have either have had 'safe sex' in capitals in the profile or in their interest list.
One couple's gangbang turned out to be a BB gangbang where I was the only one sheathing up.
Another 3 couples and one single lady caught me by surprise and slipped it in before I knew what was happening.
Another two couples the husbands were actually pressurising me to bareback the wife, which I didn't, but it really annoyed me that with one of the couples, even though I had refused bareback the first time and fucked her with a condom when I was up for seconds and putting on another condom he was putting even more pressure on me to go bare. It's actually the only meet that I've made my excuses and walked from.
So that's 7 out of 13 in my experience...
I would like to clarify that the couple on my verification list are not of the above and the Mrs whipped out a condom out before I could reach for mine |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
Leicester |
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It is just that those who take risk in a closed community endanger the whole community!
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Those who continue to participate in a witch-hunt against swingers choosing to excercise their free will to have consensual bareback sex, and responsibly state so on their profiles, are in turn endangering the whole community.
We have already seen evidence of a similar situation on Fabs, with bisexual men not always choosing to be honest about their bi status. I wonder if this is because, for some, there are more taboos surrounding the behaviour of bisexual men, as opposed to bisexual women ...the bisexual guys don't want to be judged, so they lie about it?
If you want to engender an atmosphere of trust and safety in the swinging community, then you have to be less judgemental about the behaviour of others, lest they decide that the best course of action would be to lie about it. If bareback is consensual and honest, and you are made fully aware of it, then it cannot harm you ... |
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It is just that those who take risk in a closed community endanger the whole community!
Those who continue to participate in a witch-hunt against swingers choosing to excercise their free will to have consensual bareback sex, and responsibly state so on their profiles, are in turn endangering the whole community.
We have already seen evidence of a similar situation on Fabs, with bisexual men not always choosing to be honest about their bi status. I wonder if this is because, for some, there are more taboos surrounding the behaviour of bisexual men, as opposed to bisexual women ...the bisexual guys don't want to be judged, so they lie about it?
If you want to engender an atmosphere of trust and safety in the swinging community, then you have to be less judgemental about the behaviour of others, lest they decide that the best course of action would be to lie about it. If bareback is consensual and honest, and you are made fully aware of it, then it cannot harm you ..."
Oh but it can harm you. you are just more aware of the risk you are taking!! |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
Leicester |
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It is just that those who take risk in a closed community endanger the whole community!
Those who continue to participate in a witch-hunt against swingers choosing to excercise their free will to have consensual bareback sex, and responsibly state so on their profiles, are in turn endangering the whole community.
We have already seen evidence of a similar situation on Fabs, with bisexual men not always choosing to be honest about their bi status. I wonder if this is because, for some, there are more taboos surrounding the behaviour of bisexual men, as opposed to bisexual women ...the bisexual guys don't want to be judged, so they lie about it?
If you want to engender an atmosphere of trust and safety in the swinging community, then you have to be less judgemental about the behaviour of others, lest they decide that the best course of action would be to lie about it. If bareback is consensual and honest, and you are made fully aware of it, then it cannot harm you ...
Oh but it can harm you. you are just more aware of the risk you are taking!!"
You misunderstand me; if others are honest and make you aware of their bareback behaviour, it then gives you the choice not to play with them; therefore it cannot possibly harm you ..not even remotely possibly!!!
Honesty is the best policy, and you need to encourage honesty by being a little less judgemental about others.
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
Leicester |
It's interesting (well to me anyway) that the first reply was a legitimate answer to the OP's question, but it took another 10 posts (one being removed by the poster) before the question was answered again. Of the 158 previous replies, only 48 (approx) bothered to answer the OP's questions. 4 posts were 'removed' or deleted by the posters, whilst most of the rest used it as an opportunity to pass judgement on others who choose to exercise their free will, and behave in a responsible way by owning up to it...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"what people are saying is that people lie.. therefore you will most likely be doing it with people that bareback without them being honest."
A very sensible reply Cali
Me and OH are being honest when we say we will NEVER ever go bare with others ...we have weighed up the risks and will carry on keeping our risk very low by only practicing safe sex.
I remember someone saying "treat every meet as if they bareback with others (even if they deny it)... you don't know who is telling the truth" |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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"Me and OH are being honest when we say we will NEVER ever go bare with others ...we have weighed up the risks and will carry on keeping our risk very low by only practicing safe sex.
I remember someone saying "treat every meet as if they bareback with others (even if they deny it)... you don't know who is telling the truth" "
Another very sensible reply. |
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over a year ago
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"Me and OH are being honest when we say we will NEVER ever go bare with others ...we have weighed up the risks and will carry on keeping our risk very low by only practicing safe sex.
I remember someone saying "treat every meet as if they bareback with others (even if they deny it)... you don't know who is telling the truth"
Another very sensible reply."
But that isn't replying to the OPs question is it ............. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"I remember someone saying "treat every meet as if they bareback with others (even if they deny it)... you don't know who is telling the truth" "
This is what I am not getting about some of the above replies. People say use condoms, and those who don't use condoms are filthy erepositories of STIs. But if each of those people are using condoms, surely it doesn't matter what others do.
I think people like to feel superior to others, whether they are bi men, single men, or barebackers. Not one has actually thought that if they are using condoms, then it doesn't make any difference what the people they are meeting do. Or do they ask for a GUM clinic report before they play? |
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"Me and OH are being honest when we say we will NEVER ever go bare with others ...we have weighed up the risks and will carry on keeping our risk very low by only practicing safe sex.
I remember someone saying "treat every meet as if they bareback with others (even if they deny it)... you don't know who is telling the truth"
Another very sensible reply.
But that isn't replying to the OPs question is it ............."
It's a forum (on line discussion) not every reply is going to be a reply to the OP's question |
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"Me and OH are being honest when we say we will NEVER ever go bare with others ...we have weighed up the risks and will carry on keeping our risk very low by only practicing safe sex.
I remember someone saying "treat every meet as if they bareback with others (even if they deny it)... you don't know who is telling the truth"
Another very sensible reply.
But that isn't replying to the OPs question is it .............
It's a forum (on line discussion) not every reply is going to be a reply to the OP's question"
I know. But RandC observed that hardly anybody actually replied to the OPs question (including me). He said that we are all just using the post as an excuse to rant about barebacking. Just being slightly sarcastic as he quoted a previous reply as 'another very sensible reply'. When it wasn't a reply to the OPs question. If you get my drift  |
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By *andCCouple
over a year ago
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"Another very sensible reply."
"But that isn't replying to the OPs question is it ............."
"It's a forum (on line discussion) not every reply is going to be a reply to the OP's question"
Well at least the 'discussion' ...if you can call it that, has lightened a little. I do sometimes miss the good old fashioned days of internet forums, where a moderator would warn the poster if the subject strayed a little too much off-topic.
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over a year ago
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I know. But RandC observed that hardly anybody actually replied to the OPs question (including me). He said that we are all just using the post as an excuse to rant about barebacking. Just being slightly sarcastic as he quoted a previous reply as 'another very sensible reply'. When it wasn't a reply to the OPs question. If you get my drift "
i don't mind your (slight) sarcasm at all - I've always considered it to be one of the highest forms of wit ...when done well |
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"Another very sensible reply.
But that isn't replying to the OPs question is it .............
It's a forum (on line discussion) not every reply is going to be a reply to the OP's question
Well at least the 'discussion' ...if you can call it that, has lightened a little. I do sometimes miss the good old fashioned days of internet forums, where a moderator would warn the poster if the subject strayed a little too much off-topic.
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Most of them seem to stray. My New Year Resolution is to stop reading (and posting) on bareback and bi threads . I do agree that barebackers should not be vilified as it leads to dishonesty, as with the bi dilemma. |
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By *ametryMan
over a year ago
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"Bareback" the debate continues, I do marvel at the fact that STDs can be transmited through oral sex but everyone seems to ignore this little "fact" so as long as everyone shouting bareback people are stupid are NOT giving or recieving oral sex their point stands. sex with or without condoms I would hope and expect that one and all are making reguler trips to the GUM clinic anyway (especialy after that cock or pussy has been in your mouth) |
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