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"I told my wife after a we were discussing sexual fantasies. She has known for years that I have worn her knickers, from the age of 18(she was 16). It never really bothered her as fortunately she is quite open minded. She never knew that I fully xdressed though....until one night before we were going to sleep she asked me if I had been using her make up as she couldn't find it. I just blurted out that I had! She asked me what else was I up to when she was out as she had noticed down the years some of her clothes with make up stains on and other clothes gone missing( the ones I wanked in!) I told her that I love to xdress as I like the feeling of the satin and silk materials and I just wanted to dress like her! Her reply was great! She told me everyone has their own thing. Since then she has bought me a few pairs of knickers, let me wear her satin babydoll to sleep in and also done my make up for me(once only!)... But all on one condition, I don't xdress fully when she's in. I can live with that as I know when she's out for the day she knows exactly what I'll be doing! She keeps asking if I'm gay now!!! I'm not, just bisexual, but that's another story!! Lol. At the end of the day, depends on personal circumstances I think. And an understanding wife/partner. I guess I got lucky with mine!" Discussing sexual fantasies sounds like a good way to bring up the subject. You could then gauge her reaction and figure out how much you do actually tell her. I'd be gutted if I had a long term partner and after a few years together he told me he was a cross dresser. I'd want to have known early on because we could have been having tons of fun with it!! 
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"Its no different than wearing fancy dress at a party. The guys who "come out" as x-dressers are in the main just confused about their sexuality. In many incidents they feel they have failed as men, they have very few,if any friends, find relating to other men difficult, so maybe dressing up in a womans clothes gives them a new identity. It used to turn my ex-wife on if i wore her lacy knickers to work, didnt get it myself, but the hottest fucks I had with that woman were always after coming home with my bits in lace, so you think of england and if the woman wants, the woman gets." Or then there are the men who were obviously touched inappropriately by a tranny at one time and were worried that they liked it. What would the guys at the lodge say if they knew you got a dirty erection when a man dressed as your mum touched you!!!? You'd be black balled in no time, and not in the way that you often fantasize about either Dave. That big black cock pounding you into the bed while your mummys corset constricts your chest making it hard to breathe. Hmmm, is it twitching Dave? Do all us trannys with our charity shop Mrs Bucket dresses make you leak a tiny bit from the end of your little Willy? I've some lovely black patent leather thigh boots if that helps? I can't tell you off for being a bad boy and not polishing your Nazi insignias properly. Just like Mummy used to do to you. Just give me a call on 0800 BIGOTS R US.  | |||
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"Its no different than wearing fancy dress at a party. The guys who "come out" as x-dressers are in the main just confused about their sexuality. In many incidents they feel they have failed as men, they have very few,if any friends, find relating to other men difficult, so maybe dressing up in a womans clothes gives them a new identity. It used to turn my ex-wife on if i wore her lacy knickers to work, didnt get it myself, but the hottest fucks I had with that woman were always after coming home with my bits in lace, so you think of england and if the woman wants, the woman gets. Or then there are the men who were obviously touched inappropriately by a tranny at one time and were worried that they liked it. What would the guys at the lodge say if they knew you got a dirty erection when a man dressed as your mum touched you!!!? You'd be black balled in no time, and not in the way that you often fantasize about either Dave. That big black cock pounding you into the bed while your mummys corset constricts your chest making it hard to breathe. Hmmm, is it twitching Dave? Do all us trannys with our charity shop Mrs Bucket dresses make you leak a tiny bit from the end of your little Willy? I've some lovely black patent leather thigh boots if that helps? I can't tell you off for being a bad boy and not polishing your Nazi insignias properly. Just like Mummy used to do to you. Just give me a call on 0800 BIGOTS R US. "Youre obsessed with calling everyone a bigit who doesnt agree with you, just how am i a bigot by saying that X-dressers are just men in fancy dress ? X-dressers are NOT accepted or seen in law as anything other than 'strange fantacists who wear womens clothes' - You have no standing whatsoever and never will. If it rocks youre boat to creep about down darkened streets dressed as a woman, thats youre choice. If youre gay, youre gay and everyone is totally behind you (no pun intended) on that, If youre hetrosexual, the same applies, but flogging the olde chestnut that in some way you are acceptable to society is just not true. You are in the main seen as 'odd'. The OP asked a question regarding her having some bedroom fun, not her bf suddenly sitting down with her parents dressed as a woman. What you do in the privacy of youre own home is youre choice and in a democracy such as we have  now, no-one has the right to refuse you that, but banging youre drum saying youre acceptable to society is not true, and no doubt you have found this out yourself. Rather than calling people names, why not start a post outlining the injustices you feel you attract.
Just looking through the job vacancies section for you. Tick how many jobs you'd be offered dressed as a shelia ?
School Caretaker ? Council Binman ? Kitchen Fitter ? Driving Instrutor ? Police Officer ? Door to Door meter reader ? My new barman ?
See my point ? Its perfectly acceptable for you to do what you want to do in youre own home, but .......? | |||
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"I thought calling you a bigot for your first post was perhaps slightly unfair. Then I read your next one, Dave. " just how am i a bigot by saying a x-dresser is a man in fancy dress ? | |||
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"jodie, i love youre messages, how you find the time to write on here all day and stop youre make-up running is to be admired. So im old school, its took me along time to get my head around men shagging men, geezers dressing up as women is something i do struggle with. See i was bought up in an age where anything not normal was looked down on, men still went to prison for buggery and even writing about MP's being gay got a infamous magazines editor jailed. This banter started cos i wont have x-dressers using the ladies in the pub, and regardless if that makes me a bigot, i still wont. Female customers dont want you in there, and blokes would prefer it if you had a pee outside. But none of that makes me a bigot, we just have different values. As for a previous poster who reckoned there were x-dressers in fakenham ? he doesnt know fakenham " I was born a bred in fakenham, I can give you the details of 3, one being a family member! But im sure there are more! As i said before hust because you cant see them doesnt mean they are not there!! Think I know the place alittle better than you sweetheart! I'm very shocked by some of your statements including the 'fancydress'. It is not just fancy dress for most! Its about feeling comfortable in youre own skin. Xdressers do nothing for me, along with gay and bi men, but that doesn't mean I don't want to see them having fun along with the rest of us. Yes you're correct in terms of the law xdressers are men so why not the men's? No different to a guy in a dress on a stag do! If everyone thought along the same lines as you things would never change. Im gobsmacked that someone wanting to open a swinging club has such out dated views! In the last 20/30 years see how much has changed in regards to equal rights, I can only see things changing more....for the better! | |||
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"jodie, i love youre messages, how you find the time to write on here all day and stop youre make-up running is to be admired. So im old school, its took me along time to get my head around men shagging men, geezers dressing up as women is something i do struggle with. See i was bought up in an age where anything not normal was looked down on, men still went to prison for buggery and even writing about MP's being gay got a infamous magazines editor jailed. This banter started cos i wont have x-dressers using the ladies in the pub, and regardless if that makes me a bigot, i still wont. Female customers dont want you in there, and blokes would prefer it if you had a pee outside. But none of that makes me a bigot, we just have different values. As for a previous poster who reckoned there were x-dressers in fakenham ? he doesnt know fakenham I was born a bred in fakenham, I can give you the details of 3, one being a family member! But im sure there are more! As i said before hust because you cant see them doesnt mean they are not there!! Think I know the place alittle better than you sweetheart! I'm very shocked by some of your statements including the 'fancydress'. It is not just fancy dress for most! Its about feeling comfortable in youre own skin. Xdressers do nothing for me, along with gay and bi men, but that doesn't mean I don't want to see them having fun along with the rest of us. Yes you're correct in terms of the law xdressers are men so why not the men's? No different to a guy in a dress on a stag do! If everyone thought along the same lines as you things would never change. Im gobsmacked that someone wanting to open a swinging club has such out dated views! In the last 20/30 years see how much has changed in regards to equal rights, I can only see things changing more....for the better! " Yes alot has changed in the past 20 yrs, and not all of it has been good. Its been banter, and as a licencee and club owner i do have to 'see' things different, so you're right in that, but only upto a point. The vast majority of my customers are straight couples and singles, and aslong as the balance remains that way, it is there interest that i have to maintain and support. Ask people how many would be happy their children are being taught in school by a x-dresser and you'd get a different picture from the one often spoke about here - "The its alright but not on my doorstep" views would soon be spoken. You say you know fakenham better than i do ? its a pointless argument, my late father was a licencee for 38 years in one oub there, i went to school there as did my brother and sisters. My best friend keeps a pub there now, so i do have some idea of whats happening in Fakenham, but as i said you in Manchester may well know alot more than i do ! Its all pretty pointless, You want x-dressers teaching youre kids, i dont. You want them using the ladies, I dont. You think as a swinging club owner i should let in all and sundry - Norfolk City Council and I dont believe that. Its good to have different opinions, it doesnt make one person right or another wrong, its an opinion and one which we are all entitled too. | |||
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But on a serious note, Dave, loads of people do it...the people that tend to do it live in places where normal people live and not a place where there is thousands upon thousands of medically proven imbreds. | |||
"jodie, i love youre messages, how you find the time to write on here all day and stop youre make-up running is to be admired. So im old school, its took me along time to get my head around men shagging men, geezers dressing up as women is something i do struggle with. See i was bought up in an age where anything not normal was looked down on, men still went to prison for buggery and even writing about MP's being gay got a infamous magazines editor jailed. This banter started cos i wont have x-dressers using the ladies in the pub, and regardless if that makes me a bigot, i still wont. Female customers dont want you in there, and blokes would prefer it if you had a pee outside. But none of that makes me a bigot, we just have different values. As for a previous poster who reckoned there were x-dressers in fakenham ? he doesnt know fakenham I was born a bred in fakenham, I can give you the details of 3, one being a family member! But im sure there are more! As i said before hust because you cant see them doesnt mean they are not there!! Think I know the place alittle better than you sweetheart! I'm very shocked by some of your statements including the 'fancydress'. It is not just fancy dress for most! Its about feeling comfortable in youre own skin. Xdressers do nothing for me, along with gay and bi men, but that doesn't mean I don't want to see them having fun along with the rest of us. Yes you're correct in terms of the law xdressers are men so why not the men's? No different to a guy in a dress on a stag do! If everyone thought along the same lines as you things would never change. Im gobsmacked that someone wanting to open a swinging club has such out dated views! In the last 20/30 years see how much has changed in regards to equal rights, I can only see things changing more....for the better! Yes alot has changed in the past 20 yrs, and not all of it has been good. Its been banter, and as a licencee and club owner i do have to 'see' things different, so you're right in that, but only upto a point. The vast majority of my customers are straight couples and singles, and aslong as the balance remains that way, it is there interest that i have to maintain and support. Ask people how many would be happy their children are being taught in school by a x-dresser and you'd get a different picture from the one often spoke about here - "The its alright but not on my doorstep" views would soon be spoken. You say you know fakenham better than i do ? its a pointless argument, my late father was a licencee for 38 years in one oub there, i went to school there as did my brother and sisters. My best friend keeps a pub there now, so i do have some idea of whats happening in Fakenham, but as i said you in Manchester may well know alot more than i do ! Its all pretty pointless, You want x-dressers teaching youre kids, i dont. You want them using the ladies, I dont. You think as a swinging club owner i should let in all and sundry - Norfolk City Council and I dont believe that. Its good to have different opinions, it doesnt make one person right or another wrong, its an opinion and one which we are all entitled too." Haha am pissing my self now!!!! did you not realise that you were taught by one? (I'm presuming it was the high school you attended?) he was there when my dad was there and left in the early 90s so you would have definatly been in contact with him!!! I have never commented on who you should or shouldn't let in. Or the opinions of NCC. Argument? You stated I did not know the place, I just put you right. I see no argument 
What annoyed me in the first instance is that you seem to take the word of people in a pub spouting heresay as gospel instead of conducting informed research.
I am with you a much need club in the city and as u said have been following the thread, pleased to see you have taken many issues on board but still very obtuse when it comes to the above  | |||
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"I still think dressing whilst angry is a bad move. "  thats funny right there! | |||
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"Its no different than wearing fancy dress at a party. The guys who "come out" as x-dressers are in the main just confused about their sexuality. In many incidents they feel they have failed as men, they have very few,if any friends, find relating to other men difficult, so maybe dressing up in a womans clothes gives them a new identity. It used to turn my ex-wife on if i wore her lacy knickers to work, didnt get it myself, but the hottest fucks I had with that woman were always after coming home with my bits in lace, so you think of england and if the woman wants, the woman gets." Oh Dave, part of me wants to congratulate you on being a hairy pants wearer for your ex, another part of me wants to yell "pussy whipped wimp" but I'll do neither. Coming from a town where poofters are still frowned upon and lezzies just haven't had the right guy shag them yet, I hadn't met many tgirls until I started back swinging and visiting clubs in Manchester and the gay village. To me, it's never the clothes someone wears, it's the person within those clothes that will make me want to spend time with that person - I'm the same with skin colour - that's just me. Your insistence that TVs/CDs have no protection in law is wrong I believe. If I beat up a TV for being a "cock in a frock" I'd expect the same force of law applied to me as if I beat up an Asian for being a "paki". Also, your sweeping statements regarding CDs just blow me away - obviously the blokes in the pub you spoke to at the weekend were fonts of all knowledge. "See i was bought up in an age where anything not normal was looked down on, men still went to prison for buggery and even writing about MP's being gay got a infamous magazines editor jailed." Unless you're lying about your age Dave, you bad, bad boy, you're a year older than me. I was born in 1967, the year the Sexual Offences Act decriminalised homosexual acts between 2 consenting adults over the age of 21 in England and Wales. You may have been bought up by bigotted people (as was I), but try not to let it follow you down the years. My mam is a dyed in the wool racist, sexist and homophobe - she'll say "I'm not racist/sexist/against queers but..." then come out with something that would make Nick Griffin blush - I do pull her up on it, but she just sees it as speaking her mind so I take it with a pinch of salt and do my best to make sure she doesn't come out with any controversial opinions in public! Well Dave, that's my tuppence worth for this thread - dunno if you're deliberately trying to provoke the transvestites and cross dressers into knee-jerk posting, but at least you can rest assured that you won't be having a shedload of them banging on the door for Sinatra's membership - along with a lot of people who would prefer going to a club which accepts members from all walks of life | |||
"This has gone well off topic. The question of toilets is a thorny one. If I am presenting as female then I use the ladies. Think about it. It isn't acceptable to use a disabled toilet and deprive a disabled person of that option and it is going to freak out a lot of men to go in their toilets and could lead, indeed has lead, to violence. I understand that some women may be concerned, though in general most women are far more tolerant and accepting than men of us. The concerns some women have though are again born of ignorance. Many people assume we do this for sexual reasons. There are some who are sexual fetishists. They never leave the bedroom. For those of us who venture out into the world, we're not getting a sexual thrill out of visiting ladies toilets. People shouldn't confuse me being on this site with me having a sexual motive for dressing. I do it because it is part of me. It comes and goes and it's not well understood. I can only describe it as a something that builds up in pressure that I need to do. When dressed, that all dissipates away and I just feel an inner calm, or peace and it makes me happy. I am happy doing normal things like shopping, going for a coffee, a meal or to a concert. Sometimes I do like sex, but that is just the same as everyone else. And I am a transvestite, not a transexual. It is very different for them and they are entitled to use the ladies, are protected in law and you would not know if a trans person in the ladies was transexual or transvestite. If they make an effort, dress appropriately and most importantly behave properly, it shouldn't be an issue surely. And we do. More than you've spotted, I'll wager. " I never really thought about the toilet issue, can't say it bothers me, there are lots of unisex toilets in the clubs around here. Although an extra person to borrow puppy from is never a bad thing | |||
"This has gone well off topic. The question of toilets is a thorny one. If I am presenting as female then I use the ladies. Think about it. It isn't acceptable to use a disabled toilet and deprive a disabled person of that option and it is going to freak out a lot of men to go in their toilets and could lead, indeed has lead, to violence. I understand that some women may be concerned, though in general most women are far more tolerant and accepting than men of us. The concerns some women have though are again born of ignorance. Many people assume we do this for sexual reasons. There are some who are sexual fetishists. They never leave the bedroom. For those of us who venture out into the world, we're not getting a sexual thrill out of visiting ladies toilets. People shouldn't confuse me being on this site with me having a sexual motive for dressing. I do it because it is part of me. It comes and goes and it's not well understood. I can only describe it as a something that builds up in pressure that I need to do. When dressed, that all dissipates away and I just feel an inner calm, or peace and it makes me happy. I am happy doing normal things like shopping, going for a coffee, a meal or to a concert. Sometimes I do like sex, but that is just the same as everyone else. And I am a transvestite, not a transexual. It is very different for them and they are entitled to use the ladies, are protected in law and you would not know if a trans person in the ladies was transexual or transvestite. If they make an effort, dress appropriately and most importantly behave properly, it shouldn't be an issue surely. And we do. More than you've spotted, I'll wager. I never really thought about the toilet issue, can't say it bothers me, there are lots of unisex toilets in the clubs around here. Although an extra person to borrow puppy from is never a bad thing "lippy not puppy lol | |||
"He is from Norwich for god sake. Well known for being a backwards place which is stuck in the dark ages. Leave him be to be a bigot in Norwich...it is his life he is wasting by staying in such a county. TV's are great, as Alan Patridge would say, "cash backkkkk"
But on a serious note, Dave, loads of people do it...the people that tend to do it live in places where normal people live and not a place where there is thousands upon thousands of medically proven imbreds. "I hope my medically proven inbred status has been reversed since moving up north! | |||
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"He is from Norwich for god sake. Well known for being a backwards place which is stuck in the dark ages. Leave him be to be a bigot in Norwich...it is his life he is wasting by staying in such a county. TV's are great, as Alan Patridge would say, "cash backkkkk"
But on a serious note, Dave, loads of people do it...the people that tend to do it live in places where normal people live and not a place where there is thousands upon thousands of medically proven imbreds.
I hope my medically proven inbred status has been reversed since moving up north! "So long as you don't venture into Cumbria where you would immediately revert and find your 6th finger growing back you should be ok...Though we do quite a lot of puppy swapping round here  | |||
"He is from Norwich for god sake. Well known for being a backwards place which is stuck in the dark ages. Leave him be to be a bigot in Norwich...it is his life he is wasting by staying in such a county. TV's are great, as Alan Patridge would say, "cash backkkkk"
But on a serious note, Dave, loads of people do it...the people that tend to do it live in places where normal people live and not a place where there is thousands upon thousands of medically proven imbreds.
I hope my medically proven inbred status has been reversed since moving up north!
So long as you don't venture into Cumbria where you would immediately revert and find your 6th finger growing back you should be ok...Though we do quite a lot of puppy swapping round here "ah, OH has an office in Kendal and one in Penrith, I'll be checking fingers/toes/cock for any new growth! Oh, and the boot for hidden puppies | |||
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"Oh you cumbrians get about a bit. Must be the prehensile tails "I've never shown you my cock pic Jodie | |||
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"Oh you cumbrians get about a bit. Must be the prehensile tails
I've never shown you my cock pic Jodie "A woman with a cock! The very thought disgusts me! | |||
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