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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

I'm keen to hear this too.

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By *ritishAsianMan over a year ago

Leeds

Or Bisexual / Gay men looking to suck a ‘straight’ man

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By *omer47Man over a year ago

leigh

Or a straight guy wanting a bi guy to suck him.

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By *outhboyMan over a year ago

derry

Bi here

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Or a straight guy wanting a bi guy to suck him."

Glad it's not just me who's pondering these important questions!

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By *outhboyMan over a year ago

derry

Love being sucked by tv/ts married guys

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By *omer47Man over a year ago

leigh

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Have you seen some of the tv/ts on here?,some of them are better looking than some of females and you don't get all the stress with them,(taking them out, wine/dine).

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Have you seen some of the tv/ts on here?,some of them are better looking than some of females and you don't get all the stress with them,(taking them out, wine/dine)."

Yeah I completely agree with you! I'm just wondering where that puts your own sexual orientation, if your having sex with a man does that make you feel like gay/bi?

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By *outhboyMan over a year ago

derry

Bi if u are interested in girls as well

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Two things spring to mind;

1. They are desperate and will fuck anything with a pulse

2. They secretly Bi

I am bisexual and love all forms, and some of my exploits with TS/TV mates have been mind blowing

J xx

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By *outhboyMan over a year ago

derry

Tell us more

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Have you seen some of the tv/ts on here?,some of them are better looking than some of females and you don't get all the stress with them,(taking them out, wine/dine).

Yeah I completely agree with you! I'm just wondering where that puts your own sexual orientation, if your having sex with a man does that make you feel like gay/bi? "

Counter question - why does their orientation matter to you?

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS over a year ago

chichester

I get this so much with guys. “I am attracted to you , you have a cute face big boobs soft smooth skin etc but I am totally strsight and scared it makes me gay”

Guys just do what you feel attracted to and don’t worry what others think or try beat up your man zen with worrying about such fucking nonsense.

In the real world we don’t walk around with labels pinned to us or shouting out our kinks / fantasies whatnot

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I get this so much with guys. “I am attracted to you , you have a cute face big boobs soft smooth skin etc but I am totally strsight and scared it makes me gay”

Guys just do what you feel attracted to and don’t worry what others think or try beat up your man zen with worrying about such fucking nonsense.

In the real world we don’t walk around with labels pinned to us or shouting out our kinks / fantasies whatnot

This

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Two things spring to mind;

1. They are desperate and will fuck anything with a pulse

2. They secretly Bi

I am bisexual and love all forms, and some of my exploits with TS/TV mates have been mind blowing

J xx

Think I have to agree with you there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Two things spring to mind;

1. They are desperate and will fuck anything with a pulse

2. They secretly Bi

I am bisexual and love all forms, and some of my exploits with TS/TV mates have been mind blowing

J xx

Think I have to agree with you there "

But why does it matter?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Two things spring to mind;

1. They are desperate and will fuck anything with a pulse

2. They secretly Bi

I am bisexual and love all forms, and some of my exploits with TS/TV mates have been mind blowing

J xx

Think I have to agree with you there

But why does it matter?

I wouldn't be interested in a bloke who sees TS/TV

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By *eneralPMan over a year ago

other

I know you aren’t judging but the need to label everything. If one day a guy actually quite fancies a TV or a bit of cock then all power to them.

Nobody ever says to a straight female “why are you listed as straight if you have licked a pussy”

Life is about experience, intrigue, exploration and many many other things.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Two things spring to mind;

1. They are desperate and will fuck anything with a pulse

2. They secretly Bi

I am bisexual and love all forms, and some of my exploits with TS/TV mates have been mind blowing

J xx

Think I have to agree with you there

But why does it matter?

I wouldn't be interested in a bloke who sees TS/TV"

May I ask why? Not an attack, just a genuine intrigue

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By *tirling DarkCouple over a year ago

Stirling

We both love meeting TV/TS, so much fun to be around

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I know you aren’t judging but the need to label everything. If one day a guy actually quite fancies a TV or a bit of cock then all power to them.

Nobody ever says to a straight female “why are you listed as straight if you have licked a pussy”

Life is about experience, intrigue, exploration and many many other things. "

I agree with you, hence why I'm asking the question.

I'm just curious if a guy can class himself as straight if he has an interest in TV. IMO he's kidding himself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know you aren’t judging but the need to label everything. If one day a guy actually quite fancies a TV or a bit of cock then all power to them.

Nobody ever says to a straight female “why are you listed as straight if you have licked a pussy”

Life is about experience, intrigue, exploration and many many other things.

I agree with you, hence why I'm asking the question.

I'm just curious if a guy can class himself as straight if he has an interest in TV. IMO he's kidding himself. "

But why should anyone class anyone.....what difference does it make

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By *aspar78Man over a year ago

derbyshire

I really don't think it matters, if your attracted to anyone then that's all that counts.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS over a year ago

chichester

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Two things spring to mind;

1. They are desperate and will fuck anything with a pulse

2. They secretly Bi

I am bisexual and love all forms, and some of my exploits with TS/TV mates have been mind blowing

J xx

Think I have to agree with you there

But why does it matter?

I wouldn't be interested in a bloke who sees TS/TV"

But how would know a guy likes cock in a club. They just are guys. If you asked a guy if they went both ways in a club it will mostly be a response that will get them laid easier.

Do you not want to meet a guy Thst is bi / tv as you feel the health risk is greater ?

Or simply the thought of cock on cock is a turn off and you woujd imagine the guy with a cock plsy … though this becomes off fab in a club

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS over a year ago

chichester

"I know you aren’t judging but the need to label everything. If one day a guy actually quite fancies a TV or a bit of cock then all power to them.

Nobody ever says to a straight female “why are you listed as straight if you have licked a pussy”

Life is about experience, intrigue, exploration and many many other things.

I agree with you, hence why I'm asking the question.

I'm just curious if a guy can class himself as straight if he has an interest in TV. IMO he's kidding himself. "

And you are perfectly entitled to that opinion but equally they are entitled to how they choose to see themselves and determine what they feel identifies them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It ultimately becomes subjective where a person classifies themselves when talking about attraction to an individual with both male and female traits. Does it mean you're straight or bi? Either category is valid really, and it's seems more and more like sexual preference is a spectrum rather than categories, which may even change over time imo. I think, another issue is the categorisation of TV and TS together. They aren't the same thing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It ultimately becomes subjective where a person classifies themselves when talking about attraction to an individual with both male and female traits. Does it mean you're straight or bi? Either category is valid really, and it's seems more and more like sexual preference is a spectrum rather than categories, which may even change over time imo. I think, another issue is the categorisation of TV and TS together. They aren't the same thing."

Nice to see a well rounded thought out response on a forum

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By *eaSlutsCouple over a year ago

Glasgow

I would consider myself to be in this group somewhat but I've done my own reflecting and now identify as Gynosexual.

I feel like this more accurately reflects me in that I am attracted to fem features. I don't find men or masculinity attractive or arousing at all but there are some trans people on here who are very attractive!

Some men might still be bound by the toxic masculinity that is wrapped around them from day one and sadly they aren't the easiest bonds to break. That will likely keep men in the mindset that they are straight and unwilling to accept that they can exist as anything other than this..

C x

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By *eaSlutsCouple over a year ago

Glasgow

But that's just like, my opinion maaaaan

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Two things spring to mind;

1. They are desperate and will fuck anything with a pulse

2. They secretly Bi

I am bisexual and love all forms, and some of my exploits with TS/TV mates have been mind blowing

J xx

Think I have to agree with you there

But why does it matter?

It doesn't matter at all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

ps;

Speak as a bisexual man - sex with the right person is far more important than their sexuality

J xx

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

"I know you aren’t judging but the need to label everything. If one day a guy actually quite fancies a TV or a bit of cock then all power to them.

Nobody ever says to a straight female “why are you listed as straight if you have licked a pussy”

Life is about experience, intrigue, exploration and many many other things.

I agree with you, hence why I'm asking the question.

I'm just curious if a guy can class himself as straight if he has an interest in TV. IMO he's kidding himself. "

If is so intriguing why you don't try have a meet? Or even watch a meeting

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No, it shouldn't matter, but in reality it does. The option to physically become a different gender to that of your birth is a relatively new concept within society and as such isn't well understood and often treated with scepticism and anger. Thankfully, we can see attitudes and acceptance changing in more recent years as it becomes more common.

Gender and sexual preference is a core fundamental classification that helps us define ourselves in our own mind and when that is challenged, it can be confusing I suppose.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not a guy but....

They're hedging their bets and don't want to spoil their chances with women who are turned off by bisexual men.

They're in complete denial about their sexuality.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know you aren’t judging but the need to label everything. If one day a guy actually quite fancies a TV or a bit of cock then all power to them.

Nobody ever says to a straight female “why are you listed as straight if you have licked a pussy”

Life is about experience, intrigue, exploration and many many other things.

I agree with you, hence why I'm asking the question.

I'm just curious if a guy can class himself as straight if he has an interest in TV. IMO he's kidding himself.

And you are perfectly entitled to that opinion but equally they are entitled to how they choose to see themselves and determine what they feel identifies them

This

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not a guy but....

They're hedging their bets and don't want to spoil their chances with women who are turned off by bisexual men.

They're in complete denial about their sexuality.

It's not just a river in Egypt

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By *oanne_MacTV/TS over a year ago

Perth

"I'm not a guy but....

They're hedging their bets and don't want to spoil their chances with women who are turned off by bisexual men.

They're in complete denial about their sexuality.

Correct.

Whats even funnier is telling them you'd want a get to know social first, you know like outside where people would see us together.

Soon makes most of them disappear from yer mailbox like a rat up a drainpipe.

Theres one post above which demonstrates Tgirls basically being someones dirty little secret. You dont have to take them out or anything apparantly, clearly all cock hungry, desperados.

I take a perverse pleasure in being a cunt and fucking with their heads.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not a guy but....

They're hedging their bets and don't want to spoil their chances with women who are turned off by bisexual men.

They're in complete denial about their sexuality.

Or they are conditioned by porn to find a cock appealing, yet have no desire to be with a man.

Like the joke about a Woman being like spaghetti, straight until wet.

The urge for sexual intimacy takes hold.

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By *urenutsMan over a year ago

waltham cross/Harrow HA1

"Or Bisexual / Gay men looking to suck a ‘straight’ man

Whys is that

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By *oanne_MacTV/TS over a year ago

Perth

My tuppence worth is. If you fuck the following...

Post op Transitioned = straight.

Pre op, Transitioning = grey area.

But can still argue a level of straightness. As mainly attracted to the femininity.

A high effort Tgirl = attracted to a niche, but clearly Bi.

CD/TV? = kidding yerself on if claiming straight.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS over a year ago

chichester

"I'm not a guy but....

They're hedging their bets and don't want to spoil their chances with women who are turned off by bisexual men.

They're in complete denial about their sexuality.

Lose the denial line snd it’s pretty close. It’s about numbers on here for msny snd telling people what they want to hear

Playing odds is just good business sense

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My tuppence worth is. If you fuck the following...

Post op Transitioned = straight.

Pre op, Transitioning = grey area.

But can still argue a level of straightness. As mainly attracted to the femininity.

A high effort Tgirl = attracted to a niche, but clearly Bi.

CD/TV? = kidding yerself on if claiming straight."

There's still a lot of 'grey area' and ambiguity in those definitions though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not a guy but....

They're hedging their bets and don't want to spoil their chances with women who are turned off by bisexual men.

They're in complete denial about their sexuality.

Lose the denial line snd it’s pretty close. It’s about numbers on here for msny snd telling people what they want to hear

Playing odds is just good business sense "

I agree to an extent but I think it says a lot about attitudes towards bisexual men, that there is an unwillingness to 'admit' to it.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS over a year ago

chichester

"My tuppence worth is. If you fuck the following...

Post op Transitioned = straight.

Pre op, Transitioning = grey area.

But can still argue a level of straightness. As mainly attracted to the femininity.

A high effort Tgirl = attracted to a niche, but clearly Bi.

CD/TV? = kidding yerself on if claiming straight.

There's still a lot of 'grey area' and ambiguity in those definitions though"

But Thsts their view and Thsts all that matters for them or anyone really.

Myself as a trans woman I give zero fucks what a single other person sees me as sexuality side. It’s pretty simple for me in Thst either they want to play /. Compatible or they are not.

Why would anyone remotely get seriously concerned over strangers they will never meet views on them or a sexuality

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My tuppence worth is. If you fuck the following...

Post op Transitioned = straight.

Pre op, Transitioning = grey area.

But can still argue a level of straightness. As mainly attracted to the femininity.

A high effort Tgirl = attracted to a niche, but clearly Bi.

CD/TV? = kidding yerself on if claiming straight.

There's still a lot of 'grey area' and ambiguity in those definitions though

But Thsts their view and Thsts all that matters for them or anyone really.

Myself as a trans woman I give zero fucks what a single other person sees me as sexuality side. It’s pretty simple for me in Thst either they want to play /. Compatible or they are not.

Why would anyone remotely get seriously concerned over strangers they will never meet views on them or a sexuality

Yeah it can be that simple on an individual basis. I'm talking more in terms of society as a whole. Ultimately, what I'm trying to say is that society doesn't really know how to classify new gender identities and a multitude of emerging sexual preference categories yet, and as it's all relatively new, it's a confusing subject for everyone. There is no 'right' answer.

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By *oanne_MacTV/TS over a year ago

Perth

I agree. It doesnt matter really.

Personally i dont care if someones gay, bi, straight, poly, non monogamous, asexual or whatever.

But it does matter to some when they lie about it, hide verifications etc...

Their misleading potential future partners who have preferences not to meet Bi guys.

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By *tephTV67TV/TS over a year ago

Cheshire

Gay men who sleep or have ever slept with a woman can no longer for the rest of their lives call themselves gay. They’re bisexual as how could they sleep with a woman and not be a bit straight ?

You may have only done it once, not enjoyed it, actually realised during the act it wasn’t for you but merely by doing it, you are now bisexual.

Yes Elton John I’m looking at you.

It’s easy for me to decide someone else’s sexuality I generally just leave it to them to decide.

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

"Gay men who sleep or have ever slept with a woman can no longer for the rest of their lives call themselves gay. They’re bisexual as how could they sleep with a woman and not be a bit straight ?

You may have only done it once, not enjoyed it, actually realised during the act it wasn’t for you but merely by doing it, you are now bisexual.

Yes Elton John I’m looking at you.

It’s easy for me to decide someone else’s sexuality I generally just leave it to them to decide. "

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"I know you aren’t judging but the need to label everything. If one day a guy actually quite fancies a TV or a bit of cock then all power to them.

Nobody ever says to a straight female “why are you listed as straight if you have licked a pussy”

Life is about experience, intrigue, exploration and many many other things.

I agree with you, hence why I'm asking the question.

I'm just curious if a guy can class himself as straight if he has an interest in TV. IMO he's kidding himself.

But why should anyone class anyone.....what difference does it make

Maybe because that is how the world works? We name things/phenomenon because otherwise people would not know what we are talking about. Language would not exist

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

But doesn't words have meaning? Am I a millionaire by just feeling that I am? Isn't one's sexuality objectively relates to who they have sex with? One can change gender but not sex. People are heterosexual, homosexuality, bisexual or asexual. Not homogendual or bigendual.

And that is not passing judgement, go ahead and live your best life but language exist.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"I would consider myself to be in this group somewhat but I've done my own reflecting and now identify as Gynosexual.

C x"

Like what you like, but the clue is in the word "sexual". It's about the person sex rather than their features.

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By *licia_2021TV/TS over a year ago

Ashby De La Zouch

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Have you seen some of the tv/ts on here?,some of them are better looking than some of females and you don't get all the stress with them,(taking them out, wine/dine).

Yeah I completely agree with you! I'm just wondering where that puts your own sexual orientation, if your having sex with a man does that make you feel like gay/bi? "

To hell with orientation/labels

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not a guy but....

They're hedging their bets and don't want to spoil their chances with women who are turned off by bisexual men.

They're in complete denial about their sexuality.

Correct.

Whats even funnier is telling them you'd want a get to know social first, you know like outside where people would see us together.

Soon makes most of them disappear from yer mailbox like a rat up a drainpipe.

Theres one post above which demonstrates Tgirls basically being someones dirty little secret. You dont have to take them out or anything apparantly, clearly all cock hungry, desperados.

I take a perverse pleasure in being a cunt and fucking with their heads.

Thought the same reading that comment. They're basically happy to use you as a receptacle but would rather die than let anyone know.

I do feel a bit sorry for bi guys on here, though don't condone lying. Bi women are celebrated and a lot of guy's fantasy thanks to porn. Bi guys are seen as lesser than.

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By *nshapemanMan over a year ago

peterborough

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

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me too

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"My tuppence worth is. If you fuck the following...

Post op Transitioned = straight.

Pre op, Transitioning = grey area.

But can still argue a level of straightness. As mainly attracted to the femininity.

A high effort Tgirl = attracted to a niche, but clearly Bi.

CD/TV? = kidding yerself on if claiming straight."

But feminity relates to gender. You have sexual intercourse - that is, having relations through your sex. If the other person have the same sex as you then it's a same sex relation.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So legally a trans lady has all the rights as a natural born lady, and in every way shape and form are a female even being sent to female prisons etc, untill a bigot on fab days you must be gay if your attracted to somebody who presents them selves as the gender you are attracted to “mind blown”

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And that is not passing judgement, go ahead and live your best life but language exist."

Yes and that's part of the problem, that these classifications are not defined and therefore open to interpretation.

If you change gender, it's doesn't change your sexual preference of course but it could be argued that it changes the definition of the nature of the relationship between people, and that in turn depends on how we are recognising gender.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

And that is not passing judgement, go ahead and live your best life but language exist.

Yes and that's part of the problem, that these classifications are not defined and therefore open to interpretation.

Gender is about whether you present masculine or feminine. Sex is about what reproductive function nature had planned for you. It's in every cell in your body and cannot be changed. Sexual intercourse- the key is in the word "sex". Same sex, opposite sex, or both sexes. Presentation doesn't matter.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"So legally a trans lady has all the rights as a natural born lady, and in every way shape and form are a female even being sent to female prisons etc, untill a bigot on fab days you must be gay if your attracted to somebody who presents them selves as the gender you are attracted to “mind blown”"

Sex is about biology. What you describe is a legal fiction. Whether you believe it or not, it's quite possible for someone to hold that view and still support trans people living a life their best life. That is what true Liberalism is

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By *eepBlueSeaMan over a year ago

sandy place

Because they normally have the best shoes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not looking to take this thread off at a tangent but why is anyone with a different opinion on this matter labelled a bigot? It's fucking nonsense. Name calling makes you sound about 12.

The law recognises trans women as women but they are not the same in every shape and form as a woman. If they were, there would be nothing to transition from or to.

Nothing that I have said above, in any way, supports someone being disrespected by a guy on here. Regardless of who you are or how you identify, if a man wouldn't be seen in public with you, tell him to get to fuck.

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By *undee2Man over a year ago

Dundee

I am bi and really struggle with this. I like men to be men and women to be women. That is the easy but done. Some of the TV/TS you see on here are absolutely beautiful but I don't fancy them but feel that I should. Cross dressers, men who live their lives as men but just like dressing up in women's clothes are just a no no. I just don't get it at all.

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

Order!!!!! Order!!!!!!

just kidding

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By *undee2Man over a year ago

Dundee

No!!!!!!!!!

I can't take anymore acronyms. With gynosexual we now have LGBTQ+Gy. It will be as long as Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Order!!!!! Order!!!!!!

just kidding

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No!!!!!!!!!

I can't take anymore acronyms. With gynosexual we now have LGBTQ+Gy. It will be as long as Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious."

You identifying as a moany bastard today?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And that is not passing judgement, go ahead and live your best life but language exist.

Yes and that's part of the problem, that these classifications are not defined and therefore open to interpretation.

So in your opinion, does a trans person present as masculine or feminine?

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

"No!!!!!!!!!

I can't take anymore acronyms. With gynosexual we now have LGBTQ+Gy. It will be as long as Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

You identifying as a moany bastard today?

Sweet

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

And that is not passing judgement, go ahead and live your best life but language exist.

Yes and that's part of the problem, that these classifications are not defined and therefore open to interpretation.

So in your opinion, does a trans person present as masculine or feminine?"

That's not opinion. Isn't that what Transitioning is all about? One is trying to change their appearance/behaviour to appear to be the opposite sex by taking on the stereotypical phenotype of the opposite sex?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No!!!!!!!!!

I can't take anymore acronyms. With gynosexual we now have LGBTQ+Gy. It will be as long as Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

You identifying as a moany bastard today?

This made me chuckle!

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By *isstheGo-GoatCouple over a year ago

plymouth

"I get this so much with guys. “I am attracted to you , you have a cute face big boobs soft smooth skin etc but I am totally strsight and scared it makes me gay”

Guys just do what you feel attracted to and don’t worry what others think or try beat up your man zen with worrying about such fucking nonsense.

In the real world we don’t walk around with labels pinned to us or shouting out our kinks / fantasies whatnot

This is 100% why put labels on things! Just have fun you do you!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And that is not passing judgement, go ahead and live your best life but language exist.

Yes and that's part of the problem, that these classifications are not defined and therefore open to interpretation.

So in your opinion, does a trans person present as masculine or feminine?

I don't really understand what point you're trying to make. Think we're now disputing the semantics of the language being used.

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Two things spring to mind;

1. They are desperate and will fuck anything with a pulse

2. They secretly Bi

I am bisexual and love all forms, and some of my exploits with TS/TV mates have been mind blowing

J xx

Think I have to agree with you there

But why does it matter?

I wouldn't be interested in a bloke who sees TS/TV"

I've seen this so many times over the years and rarely got a straight 'pun intended' answer as to why.

I have my suspicions of course. The most honest responses have always been about risk levels.

When I've questioned who is the greater risk - the bi curious guy who sucks cock a couple of times a year, the bisexual guy who practices safe sex with both men and women, the straight guy who fucks anything with a pulse without protection or the woman who has unprotected oral with multiple guys weekly.......I never seem to get an answer.

Sexuality doesn't determine risk. Behaviour does.

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By *unmatt888Man over a year ago

Duns

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

I’m bi, but not sure what there is to explain.

A man attracted only to feminine people would be best categorised as straight.

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By *issyfaggotfayeTV/TS over a year ago

Bolton

Oh yeah, I seem to get a lot of messages from straight guys

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

And that is not passing judgement, go ahead and live your best life but language exist.

Yes and that's part of the problem, that these classifications are not defined and therefore open to interpretation.

So in your opinion, does a trans person present as masculine or feminine?

I don't really understand what point you're trying to make. Think we're now disputing the semantics of the language being used."

I don't think we have a dispute really

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By *omerset tvTV/TS over a year ago

Weston-super-Mare

I love dressing in womens clothes wearing make up etc but i would only meet a tv who did the same not some guy wearing a pair of ladies knickers having a beard and going on cam under a tv profile dressed as a guy. I would only meet a femine guy I guess like the New Romantics were in the 80s hairy bodies are such a turn off as well

But at end of the day id rather meet ladies as most tvs probably would

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By *aptain Caveman41Man over a year ago

Home

What about the ladies profiles who say they are straight but only want to meet women

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By *awtyPapaMan over a year ago

Southend-on-Sea

Odd just had the same conversation with my T-girl friend. She finds that guys will date her, treat her like a lady ( with a cock) but in their mind, see themselves as straight, dating a GG.

But as mentioned above, would is it really hurting?

Live and let live xx

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS over a year ago

stockport

We all get messages from straight guys.I like to be seen and treated as a woman. Gender and sex can be separated.

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By *reyja78TV/TS over a year ago

Northampton

"Oh yeah, I seem to get a lot of messages from straight guys

Same as, I would say about half of the messages I get, the profile states straight x

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By *eneralPMan over a year ago

other

Let’s all be honest - “straight” guys enjoy encounters with guys because guys are better at sucking cock!!

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By *r SteelhammerMan over a year ago

belfast

Completely agreed I'm straight and I barely want to see another guys cum face in threesomes let alone let another guy touch me

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By *eneralPMan over a year ago

other

"Completely agreed I'm straight and I barely want to see another guys cum face in threesomes let alone let another guy touch me

An example of when a man is so uncomfortable with his sexuality that he is physically repulsed by another man… it takes all sorts

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By *oanne_MacTV/TS over a year ago

Perth

Miss muff, who i dont 100% agree with some of what she believes, and we have spoken about it privately before, and I know she means no offence and I respect her right to have her beliefs, even if she is a hatchet faced boot

(hides) touched upon it a few posts up about if someone wont be seen with you regardless of what you identify with then they not worth your time... nail on the head!

I often say if someone wouldnt walk down the street with me, then they wouldn't be welcome in my fucking bed. End of. I hate agreeing with the shameless harlot, but it happens now and again

But back to the original post.

They're not straight, and thats ok. Just be honest FFS

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By *ungBlackTopMan over a year ago

salford

Or a "straight" man constantly asking to get his ass hammered by my big raw cock. It's all very confusing and off putting for me.

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By *eneralPMan over a year ago

other

"Or a "straight" man constantly asking to get his ass hammered by my big raw cock. It's all very confusing and off putting for me."

I imagine him saying it whilst you’re balls deep and trying to concentrate is very confusing. Bless you

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By *r SteelhammerMan over a year ago

belfast

Maybe it's the fact I'm very comfortable with my sexuality, as a straight man it took me years to have a threesome with a very close friend of mine maybe I dont want to see another mans dick in my inbox nor do I want to see another mans cum face I'd much rather give a woman a multiple orgasm and listen to her scream not listen to another mans grunting

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By *eneralPMan over a year ago

other

"Maybe it's the fact I'm very comfortable with my sexuality, as a straight man it took me years to have a threesome with a very close friend of mine maybe I dont want to see another mans dick in my inbox nor do I want to see another mans cum face I'd much rather give a woman a multiple orgasm and listen to her scream not listen to another mans grunting "

Don’t get touchy, it was only an observation. At least you know how to give a woman multiple orgasms.

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By *ungBlackTopMan over a year ago

salford

"Or a "straight" man constantly asking to get his ass hammered by my big raw cock. It's all very confusing and off putting for me.

I imagine him saying it whilst you’re balls deep and trying to concentrate is very confusing. Bless you "

Lol I don't meet them, rather have a wank lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Is it difficult for a 'straight' man to come to terms with his sexualty if he suspects he may be bi/curious?

Is there still a certain amount of stigma involved in admitting it?

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By *inkywife1981Couple over a year ago

A town near you

Forgive my ignorance

But if a guys meet for a TS or TV naturally someone is taking it up the arse?

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By *eneralPMan over a year ago

other

"Is it difficult for a 'straight' man to come to terms with his sexualty if he suspects he may be bi/curious?

Is there still a certain amount of stigma involved in admitting it? "

I think there probably is. My closest friends know I am but I’m very modern and metropolitan!

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By *oanne_MacTV/TS over a year ago

Perth

"Is it difficult for a 'straight' man to come to terms with his sexualty if he suspects he may be bi/curious?

Is there still a certain amount of stigma involved in admitting it? "

I think there is. And do you know what? I think it would be easier for a guy to come out as gay than Bi. Ridiculous, but true... yet Bi women are seen totally differently, and even more ridiculous is plenty of women who dont like Bi guys are Bi themselves, that i find funny!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Question for the 'straight' guys.... What is the appeal of a TS/TV man?

The general consensus seems to be that their femininity appeals, so what makes them more appealing than a cisgender woman?

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

"Question for the 'straight' guys.... What is the appeal of a TS/TV man?

The general consensus seems to be that their femininity appeals, so what makes them more appealing than a cisgender woman? "

Can i make you an offer

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By *oanne_MacTV/TS over a year ago

Perth

And with that. I'm out

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Miss muff, who i dont 100% agree with some of what she believes, and we have spoken about it privately before, and I know she means no offence and I respect her right to have her beliefs, even if she is a hatchet faced boot

(hides) touched upon it a few posts up about if someone wont be seen with you regardless of what you identify with then they not worth your time... nail on the head!

I often say if someone wouldnt walk down the street with me, then they wouldn't be welcome in my fucking bed. End of. I hate agreeing with the shameless harlot, but it happens now and again

But back to the original post.

They're not straight, and thats ok. Just be honest FFS

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Is it difficult for a 'straight' man to come to terms with his sexualty if he suspects he may be bi/curious?

Is there still a certain amount of stigma involved in admitting it? "

I think there is and it's a real shame.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We have no particular interest in sex with CD, TV or TS and wonder similarly about so many men whose profiles say straight and they open with "I'm bi". In otherwords they are either lying to us just to have a go on my boobs and pussy else they are lying to everyone on site. In either case we have no interest. If anything those who ask why is it so important... When we ask them if they have the all clear from the clinic and we ask for evidence, if they say they have the all clear and forgot to bring the recent evidence, should we accept they are suddenly telling the truth? Freedom and experience is great yet it is nothing when done dishonestly.

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By *irmhandmancMan over a year ago

Bolton

"Is it difficult for a 'straight' man to come to terms with his sexualty if he suspects he may be bi/curious?

Is there still a certain amount of stigma involved in admitting it?

I think there is and it's a real shame. "

No shame in admitting preference to certain kinks

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By *he_Last_TitanMan over a year ago

Bristol

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Extraordinary feat by the sounds of it

*popcorn needed*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't think that the majority care whether someone is Gay, Bi, TS, TG or TV.

It is the lying, deceit and dishonesty of many people here that people care about.

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By *on burgendyMan over a year ago

limerick

I dont think its gay to be attracted to a trans female..iv seen some beautiful ts girls here and the ones i was chatting to were all sound..not like some of the women here who block you for sending a message.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

Ehhhhhhhh????

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By *lirty_dirtyCouple over a year ago

Lingfield

"Is it difficult for a 'straight' man to come to terms with his sexualty if he suspects he may be bi/curious?

Is there still a certain amount of stigma involved in admitting it? "

Sadly there really is. As previously mentioned it's easier to be gay than bi. You'd have thought this would be a place of tolerance and acceptance ????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women. "

So by that logic you'd have no issue fucking a woman that had transitioned to a man then?

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

Order!!!!!! Order!!!!!

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By *eneralPMan over a year ago

other

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women. "

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women. "

If I had wheels it wouldn't make me a wheelbarrow.

This is a really narrow viewed comment. A bit 1970s in all honesty.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

If I had wheels it wouldn't make me a wheelbarrow.

This is a really narrow viewed comment. A bit 1970s in all honesty."

I'm aware a wheelbarrow usually has one wheel. Just a typo

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By *unmatt888Man over a year ago

Duns

"Forgive my ignorance

But if a guys meet for a TS or TV naturally someone is taking it up the arse?"

Usually.

What’s your point?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

So by that logic you'd have no issue fucking a woman that had transitioned to a man then?"

Correct although I’m not talking about me so I don’t know why you reference me, at no point did I reference me??

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By *unCpl1003Couple over a year ago

Edinburgh

Honestly who cares do whatever you want to do as long as no one is getting hurt who cares what the label is

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise. "

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

Just chill out you all

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

Testosterone levels are rising

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

If I had wheels it wouldn't make me a wheelbarrow.

This is a really narrow viewed comment. A bit 1970s in all honesty."

Why’s that then?

Do you have a problem with gay guys?

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By *eneralPMan over a year ago

other

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?"

I’m smart enough not to be ignorant…

Just educate yourself and open up, you might have more fun!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just chill out you all

Good point! I'm out

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?

I’m smart enough not to be ignorant…

Just educate yourself and open up, you might have more fun!

Rather than being rude why don’t you explain what offended you about my comment?

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

"Just chill out you all

Good point! I'm out

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We lack subtlety in language

ATM sexuality is based purely on the genitals of your partner.

If you got head from a gorgeous, femine TS, youre not straight, even if you don't see them naked.

But get head from someone so masculine looking they'd pass as male, buy as long as they have a uterus, youre a straight fella.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Testosterone levels are rising

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?

I’m smart enough not to be ignorant…

Just educate yourself and open up, you might have more fun!

You are not as smart as you think, sir. As I've said before, masculinity and femininity refer to gender. Sexuality is about one's sex. Sex is one's biology- in every cell in your body. We don't have gender intercourse, we have sexual intercourse. A TV/TS do not lose their biological sex so a man being attracted to one is clearly same sex attracted. It's not that difficult really

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?

I’m smart enough not to be ignorant…

Just educate yourself and open up, you might have more fun!

First of all, Transsexuals and transvestites are not exactly the same.

Let me be clear, being TS isn’t a choice. Research on gender dysphoria and what it means to not feel at home in the body You were assigned at birth.

And regarding not being able to change biology, that’s technically incorrect, trans people actually undergo a change of second sex characteristics (with hormones and surgery) and first sex characteristics (with surgery)

Genetic, yeah you can’t change the chromosomes (do people really care?!) and can’t have some parts with surgery (the uterus, for time being)

But there’s a lot of trans women who either are lucky genetically , or start very young in their transition. Who are perceived by people as any other girls and unless they say.. none would know. That’s deep stealth (a lot go stealth)

Now, the dilemma of what is somebody?

Partly why there’s so much stigma about dating a trans person, it’s stuff like this.

I totally get genital preference! But after sex reassignment surgery (having a vaginoplasty - and yes they look amazing vag) then that’s a different story and there *could* be some transphobia rooted if you liked the person, before she said “btw I’m trans”

I don’t care what my partners sexuality is, but majority identifies as straight. I have slept with quite a good amount who never slept with a trans woman before (and never entertained the idea), and they just found me attractive and saw me for me and that was enough.

For anyone interested, there’s plenty of vids on YouTube of lovely girls (Maya Henry, Caroland, Mathilda Hogberg, Emma Ellingsenn are all perfect example. 3 are post op) who shared their journey etc and also, from guys who are openly trans-amorous/attracted and what it means for them. We need more guys to openly talk about it

That’s all folks !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?

I’m smart enough not to be ignorant…

Just educate yourself and open up, you might have more fun!

Sir, sexual intercourse is related to sex. As in the act of having sex with somebody

Nothing to do with the word sex that refers to sex assigned at birth or gender.

Example… being sexual. It refers to the act of sex.. like having sex!

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?

I’m smart enough not to be ignorant…

Just educate yourself and open up, you might have more fun!

Sir, sexual intercourse is related to sex. As in the act of having sex with somebody

Nothing to do with the word sex that refers to sex assigned at birth or gender.

Example… being sexual. It refers to the act of sex.. like having sex!

I think you have it backwards. Sex is short for sexual intercourse. It means intercourse (contact/ relations) with the sexual organ of at least one participant. It's called a sexual organ because it relates to your sex.

To make it simple, if you are having sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex, it's homosexual (Greek homos = same) sexual intercourse.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?

I’m smart enough not to be ignorant…

Just educate yourself and open up, you might have more fun!

Sir, sexual intercourse is related to sex. As in the act of having sex with somebody

Nothing to do with the word sex that refers to sex assigned at birth or gender.

Example… being sexual. It refers to the act of sex.. like having sex!

To make it simple, if you are having sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex, it's homosexual (Greek homos = same) sexual intercourse. "

Incorrect. You will often see 'Sex' on a questionnaire meaning gender for example. The terms can be found to be used interchangeably depending on the context.

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

Nobody ever says to a straight female “why are you listed as straight if you have licked a pussy”

Probably because not many women lie about their sexuality.

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By *amantha TSWoman over a year ago

Swindon

A lot of opinions, and it's great that people are at least talking about it.

My question to those who are of the opinion "if you want to try a TV/TS then you're bi" does that mean a vegetarian who deep down wants a bacon sandwich and slips up just once means they're forever a carnivore? Or can anyone who has eaten meat ever be able to call themselves a vegan/vegetarian? Of course not. They make life choices and try their best to live by them.

Another question - does a man being pegged or sucking a strap on by a woman make them bi or gay?

My opinion - people's sexuality can change with age, experience and sometimes just attraction. Not all experiences with CD/TV/TS have to end up with penetrative sex. And just like food, sometimes you have to try these things just to see if you like it or not. People should be judged on who they are right now, not on their past, as its those experiences that make them the person they are today.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?

I’m smart enough not to be ignorant…

Just educate yourself and open up, you might have more fun!

Sir, sexual intercourse is related to sex. As in the act of having sex with somebody

Nothing to do with the word sex that refers to sex assigned at birth or gender.

Example… being sexual. It refers to the act of sex.. like having sex!

To make it simple, if you are having sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex, it's homosexual (Greek homos = same) sexual intercourse.

Incorrect. You will often see 'Sex' on a questionnaire meaning gender for example. The terms can be found to be used interchangeably depending on the context."

I partially agree with you. There has been a language creep where the two words are now being used interchangeably expecially in the US. I disagree that we do that in the UK where even most transgender people I know acknowledge the difference between sex and gender.

But year, I do acknowledge the concept creep

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To whoever asked why *some* straight guys would seek a trans woman…

there’s many reasons. Usually it’s because they fetishise trans women (thanks porn!!…)

Just like they might fetishise BBW or a black woman or whatever other reasons some people might want to sleep with somebody for the kick and or new experience.

Then there’s a few who genuinely might just find a person who happens to be trans, attractive. They vibe, they just click. And they see us for who we say we are and the label (trans / cis or whatever) doesn’t matter. It personally happened to me many times in real life to be hit on, and they didn’t know until I disclosed (sooner or later I have to, as it’s ethical) and to some, it mattered (fair), to others it didn’t. They could go past it (those are keepers)

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"A lot of opinions, and it's great that people are at least talking about it.

Another question - does a man being pegged or sucking a strap on by a woman make them bi or gay?

This can be a difficult decision because often times people get the feeling that they are being judged. Happily I don't see any judging going on here. That said, naming phenomena is an function of language so we know what we are talking about when we converse.

The question you post is not a black and white one. Can someone have gay sex and be considered straight? Does temporal proximity matters? I'll leave that to brighter people than myself

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?

I’m smart enough not to be ignorant…

Just educate yourself and open up, you might have more fun!

Sir, sexual intercourse is related to sex. As in the act of having sex with somebody

Nothing to do with the word sex that refers to sex assigned at birth or gender.

Example… being sexual. It refers to the act of sex.. like having sex!

To make it simple, if you are having sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex, it's homosexual (Greek homos = same) sexual intercourse.

Incorrect. You will often see 'Sex' on a questionnaire meaning gender for example. The terms can be found to be used interchangeably depending on the context.

But year, I do acknowledge the concept creep "

Its used interchangeably here in the U.K. too.

Some might go into the specific as In…

Sex:

sex assigned at birth: (specify)

But those ones tend to be related to things that are trans related rather than normal stuff.

Heck my passport and even my NHS number flags up as Female next to sex (and I’m well aware of how I was assigned at birth . I know they mean gender)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Careful now… don’t upset the wokes…

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?

I’m smart enough not to be ignorant…

Just educate yourself and open up, you might have more fun!

Yep

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By *amantha TSWoman over a year ago

Swindon

I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

My thoughts are if you're male and find someone feminine presenting attractive then you are not gay or bi, you're attracted to the femininity so are heterosexual. How you enjoy each other sexually can be replicated in most ways with a cis-female (if not all ways in the case of a post-op TS).

For me the change to bisexual or homosexual occurs if a man finds masculine presenting people attractive, but that then becomes very subjective on how masculine or feminine someone has to be before the line is drawn...

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By *d4funtimesMan over a year ago

Cambridge

Not sure why there is a need to box people in different categories.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"Straight guys don’t fuck TV/TS

If you do then your gay, a gay guy who likes men who look like women.

Oh Jason. I don’t think you are lacking in intellect but your post says otherwise.

Why’s that then? And I might lack intellect? We all do, how smart do you think you are?

I’m smart enough not to be ignorant…

Just educate yourself and open up, you might have more fun!

Sir, sexual intercourse is related to sex. As in the act of having sex with somebody

Nothing to do with the word sex that refers to sex assigned at birth or gender.

Example… being sexual. It refers to the act of sex.. like having sex!

To make it simple, if you are having sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex, it's homosexual (Greek homos = same) sexual intercourse.

Incorrect. You will often see 'Sex' on a questionnaire meaning gender for example. The terms can be found to be used interchangeably depending on the context.

But year, I do acknowledge the concept creep

Its used interchangeably here in the U.K. too.

Some might go into the specific as In…

Sex:

sex assigned at birth: (specify)

But those ones tend to be related to things that are trans related rather than normal stuff.

Heck my passport and even my NHS number flags up as Female next to sex (and I’m well aware of how I was assigned at birth . I know they mean gender)

I'm not arguing against this. Part of the beauty of language is that it always find solutions. 20 years ago, I doubt that you would see the term "biological male". But has the language around sex is evolving, language is creating new terms to name the material reality of sex.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

I think Sam, it’s much about how someone is perceived externally.

Does the guy (or the girl) sees and perceives you as the gender you are (im not making it about urself , just in general) ? Then they are straight

As said, does a Hetero woman of trans experience with a vagina, who never gets seen as anything other than, sleeps with Hetero men who find her attractive and doesn’t tell she’s trans (okay unethical) and they don’t realise.. are they all suddenly become gay? Without them realising? Hell na.

For disclosure, I don’t condone that but it happens!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A mate of mine once fucked a loaf of bread in the bath.

Not sure what that means though?

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By *amantha TSWoman over a year ago

Swindon

"A mate of mine once fucked a loaf of bread in the bath.

Not sure what that means though?

Hope he didn't get a yeast infection

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By *1bttmMan over a year ago

Shoreditch east London

"Or Bisexual / Gay men looking to suck a ‘straight’ man

No diff, a cocks a cock regardless if its str8 or gay

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

I think language loses it's utility when the speakers of said language feel free to have their own meaning for words. When this happens we end up talking past each other.

A masculine woman (sex that produces large gametes) is still a woman and vice versa. Bodies have sex. We have sex with bodies and not presentation.

It is a fact, not my opinion, that the homo in homosexual come from the Greek word homos. Homos means same. Sexual intercourse only requires the involvement of the genital on one of the participant. Between people of the same sex is homosexual sex. And that is OK. People should be honest with themselves.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

I think Sam, it’s much about how someone is perceived externally.

Does the guy (or the girl) sees and perceives you as the gender you are (im not making it about urself , just in general) ? Then they are straight

For disclosure, I don’t condone that but it happens!

I think the OP was referring to "straight" men who KNOWINGLY fuck tv/ts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

I think language loses it's utility when the speakers of said language feel free to have their own meaning for words. When this happens we end up talking past each other.

A masculine woman (sex that produces large gametes) is still a woman and vice versa. Bodies have sex. We have sex with bodies and not presentation.

You're a smart cookie

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

"I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

I think language loses it's utility when the speakers of said language feel free to have their own meaning for words. When this happens we end up talking past each other.

A masculine woman (sex that produces large gametes) is still a woman and vice versa. Bodies have sex. We have sex with bodies and not presentation.

You're a smart cookie

OP the thread is almost in the end , can you please do same thread part 2 ? Please !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A mate of mine once fucked a loaf of bread in the bath.

Not sure what that means though?

Hope he didn't get a yeast infection

"
hovissexual

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

I think language loses it's utility when the speakers of said language feel free to have their own meaning for words. When this happens we end up talking past each other.

A masculine woman (sex that produces large gametes) is still a woman and vice versa. Bodies have sex. We have sex with bodies and not presentation.

You're a smart cookie

OP the thread is almost in the end , can you please do same thread part 2 ? Please !

Is there a limit to how many replies on a thread?

I know I've been quiet but I'm really enjoying reading the healthy debate and difference of opinion!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

I think Sam, it’s much about how someone is perceived externally.

Does the guy (or the girl) sees and perceives you as the gender you are (im not making it about urself , just in general) ? Then they are straight

For disclosure, I don’t condone that but it happens!

I think the OP was referring to "straight" men who KNOWINGLY fuck tv/ts. "

And I’m flipping it to… what then if they don’t know?

Sometimes they may know when told and they go past it because they find the person attractive and see them as they present themselves.

Particularly on TS

Regarding the argument about the masculine woman. A masculine woman remains that.

A trans man who undergoes testosterone and surgery becomes so distant to even just being a masculine woman and is very close to you. Yes he’s still female assigned at birth, but a lot about them is male and how they live their life and how they are as people.

You are trying to boil something complicated as easy.

Id say you wouldn’t sleep with any actual trans hairy men (called Steve, John, mark) with beards and muscles and stuff. But hey, maybe u can prove me wrong .

Please post pic if you do

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

"I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

I think language loses it's utility when the speakers of said language feel free to have their own meaning for words. When this happens we end up talking past each other.

A masculine woman (sex that produces large gametes) is still a woman and vice versa. Bodies have sex. We have sex with bodies and not presentation.

You're a smart cookie

OP the thread is almost in the end , can you please do same thread part 2 ? Please !

Is there a limit to how many replies on a thread?

I know I've been quiet but I'm really enjoying reading the healthy debate and difference of opinion! "

I think is 176

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By *iscreet gent2018Man over a year ago

Newcastle

For me it’s a sense of excitement, eroticism and taboo. I’ve certainly enjoyed the times I’ve slept with TV girls and would absolutely do it again.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

I think language loses it's utility when the speakers of said language feel free to have their own meaning for words. When this happens we end up talking past each other.

A masculine woman (sex that produces large gametes) is still a woman and vice versa. Bodies have sex. We have sex with bodies and not presentation.

You're a smart cookie

That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I get this so much with guys. “I am attracted to you , you have a cute face big boobs soft smooth skin etc but I am totally strsight and scared it makes me gay”

Guys just do what you feel attracted to and don’t worry what others think or try beat up your man zen with worrying about such fucking nonsense.

In the real world we don’t walk around with labels pinned to us or shouting out our kinks / fantasies whatnot

This

People are two hung up on labels now, if you're two consenting adults having fun who cares.

Also it's no ones business who does what with anyone else.

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By *rummie_jamaicanMan over a year ago

Birmingham

"I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

I think Sam, it’s much about how someone is perceived externally.

Does the guy (or the girl) sees and perceives you as the gender you are (im not making it about urself , just in general) ? Then they are straight

For disclosure, I don’t condone that but it happens!

I think the OP was referring to "straight" men who KNOWINGLY fuck tv/ts.

And I’m flipping it to… what then if they don’t know?

Sometimes they may know when told and they go past it because they find the person attractive and see them as they present themselves.

Particularly on TS

Regarding the argument about the masculine woman. A masculine woman remains that.

You are trying to boil something complicated as easy.

Id say you wouldn’t sleep with any actual trans hairy men (called Steve, John, mark) with beards and muscles and stuff. But hey, maybe u can prove me wrong .

Please post pic if you do

I think the problem arise when we try to make simple things complicated. Species that reproduce sexualy are divided into two sexes. Nature impose one of those sexes on us and it's encoded in every single cells of our body and observed at birth. If that transman should die and is found after significant decomposition, the would run a dna test and the news headline would say: Body of Woman Found in State of Advanced Decomposition. How said felt and lived is irrelevant in the face of material reality

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Careful now… don’t upset the wokes…"

Define 'wokes' ?

Because that's usually a statement made when someone doesn't have anything beneficial to contribute to a discussion and often signifies that it's them getting upset rather than whoever the consider the 'wokes' to be.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Testosterone levels are rising "

The moon is getting low

According to all sources

The street's the place to go...

The OP asked those who claim or see themselves as straight to explain their thinking when it comes to having sex by which I read sexual intercourse with those who are transsexuals or transvestites or see them as such.

How many here are "straight" and have given their opinion about sex with someone who identifies as trans?

Another hijacked thread?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

""Testosterone levels are rising "

The moon is getting low

According to all sources

The street's the place to go...

How many here are "straight" and have given their opinion about sex with someone who identifies as trans?

Another hijacked thread?"

This

I was looking for abit of an insight from those self professed straight gents

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By *reedierMan over a year ago

plymouth

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I guess you can take it further - if a man fucks a woman up the arse does that make them gay/bi because that's something they could do with a man?

I think Sam, it’s much about how someone is perceived externally.

Does the guy (or the girl) sees and perceives you as the gender you are (im not making it about urself , just in general) ? Then they are straight

For disclosure, I don’t condone that but it happens!

I think the OP was referring to "straight" men who KNOWINGLY fuck tv/ts.

And I’m flipping it to… what then if they don’t know?

Sometimes they may know when told and they go past it because they find the person attractive and see them as they present themselves.

Particularly on TS

Regarding the argument about the masculine woman. A masculine woman remains that.

You are trying to boil something complicated as easy.

Id say you wouldn’t sleep with any actual trans hairy men (called Steve, John, mark) with beards and muscles and stuff. But hey, maybe u can prove me wrong .

Please post pic if you do

Unfortunately some things aren’t as simple as u want them to be.

This can be applied to anything in life.

I guess we will never agree and that’s okay

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

""Testosterone levels are rising "

The moon is getting low

According to all sources

The street's the place to go...

How many here are "straight" and have given their opinion about sex with someone who identifies as trans?

Another hijacked thread?

This

I was looking for abit of an insight from those self professed straight gents"

Threads are open to anyone to comment though.

You can't always get the comments you want.

I mean....I asked someone earlier why they wouldn't want to meet someone who met TV/TS's and I still haven't seen a reply.

Such is life......

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

""Testosterone levels are rising "

The moon is getting low

According to all sources

The street's the place to go...

How many here are "straight" and have given their opinion about sex with someone who identifies as trans?

Another hijacked thread?

This

I was looking for abit of an insight from those self professed straight gents

Threads are open to anyone to comment though.

You can't always get the comments you want.

I mean....I asked someone earlier why they wouldn't want to meet someone who met TV/TS's and I still haven't seen a reply.

Such is life......

Was that me? I thought I replied

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I suppose it's how you look at it.

Are they chicks with dicks or men with tits

I've never ventured into it but some are very feminine and beautiful in appearance. The question could be asked if the straight guy indulged in the TS manhood or not or are there options. Interesting topic tho. But let no one judge

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By *istressCandyFUCKSTV/TS over a year ago

Salford

"'straight' guys who fuck TV/TS...... Explain your thought process to me

What does it matter a hole is a goal regardless of gender or sexuality

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

""Testosterone levels are rising "

The moon is getting low

According to all sources

The street's the place to go...

How many here are "straight" and have given their opinion about sex with someone who identifies as trans?

Another hijacked thread?

This

I was looking for abit of an insight from those self professed straight gents

Threads are open to anyone to comment though.

You can't always get the comments you want.

I mean....I asked someone earlier why they wouldn't want to meet someone who met TV/TS's and I still haven't seen a reply.

Such is life......

Was that me? I thought I replied "

Yes. And no.

You're not obligated to of course. Like another poster who asked the same question I was just curious as to why.

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By *nliveneTV/TS over a year ago

Selby

OP should we arrange a meeting?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"OP should we arrange a meeting?

I'll politely decline, your body is better than mine!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Could you specify what kind of thing you were looking for?

Your beginning message seems to quiz the honesty of such people.

If not then ignore the rest of this but if yes then we feel that men have far greater insecurities about their gender roles especially publically. Men rarely discuss masculinity and most also cannot define it where women have for generations become comfortable with describing femininity and what it means to them. As such men are largely more dishonest with themselves. The amount of "straight" men who contact us telling us they are bi is astounding. We cannot think of an experiment to determine this with regards to trans though someone wrote earlier that a man may have a homosexual interaction and afterwards decide that it is not for him. He has at least the experience to know that he is straight.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I suppose it's how you look at it.

Are they chicks with dicks or men with tits

Some are chick with vaginas (made from surgery)

Btw deciding not to have THE surgery doesn’t make them less women or less valid.

The identity goes right at the core. How do you know ur self identity as a man (or as a woman)? If some men on here suddenly lost their penis would their identity shift to woman? No. Your self perception will remain the same

Its like you just know and that goes the same for trans women and trans men who knew their identity didn’t match with their sex at birth. It’s just something difficult to grasp as a concept to people whose sex and gender align

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