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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter? |
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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago
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Of course there is a link between enjoying BDSM and mental health. But it doesn’t have to be a negative correlation.
Its why safe SANE and consensual (SSC) is no longer considered appropriate, and has been replaced by RACK, as rarely anything we do would be considered Sane! |
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By *xelciscoMan
over a year ago
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"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?"
Bit of a wide definition.. Very stigmatising and ill-informed. As a Dom (by character) I do agree SOME (a minority) will seek comfort in certain activities out of unaddressed trauma etc. The vast majority are normally-balanced people.
People mistake committed interest with a daring anecdotal try of a new practice. BDSM entails a way of life. Just like some organise their life for fishing trips...  |
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By *xelciscoMan
over a year ago
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"Of course there is a link between enjoying BDSM and mental health. But it doesn’t have to be a negative correlation.
Its why safe SANE and consensual (SSC) is no longer considered appropriate, and has been replaced by RACK, as rarely anything we do would be considered Sane!"
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Bdsm was removed from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), few years ago now.
Its an interesting read.
For comparison, general homosexuality was removed in 1963.
Practicing BDSM is not an indicator of having a mental health illness. |
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I enjoy BDSM and also suffer with my mental health. But I dont enjoy BDSM because of my mental health.
I think it actually makes me more aware of the need to be careful and safe with BDSM and kink. And the lifestyle in general. |
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I’m not into extreme BDSM, but from what I understand of it (& not the sanitised 50 Shades variety) its a lot about trust between partners. That shows a very good state of mental health I would argue… |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I enjoy BDSM and also suffer with my mental health. But I dont enjoy BDSM because of my mental health.
I think it actually makes me more aware of the need to be careful and safe with BDSM and kink. And the lifestyle in general."
Agree with this
And also have made great friends through kink that help me deal with the bad days |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I enjoy BDSM and also suffer with my mental health. But I dont enjoy BDSM because of my mental health.
I think it actually makes me more aware of the need to be careful and safe with BDSM and kink. And the lifestyle in general."
I agree with this as well..  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I enjoy BDSM and also suffer with my mental health. But I dont enjoy BDSM because of my mental health.
I think it actually makes me more aware of the need to be careful and safe with BDSM and kink. And the lifestyle in general.
I agree with this as well.. "
Though I admit I do not know a great deal about a lot of the scene..  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I believe its more about psychological exploration rather than psychological issues. The need to explore can be born of issues but also can just be from a more adventurous psychological nature. |
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Interesting thread. My penny worth .mental health issuses is something that everyone that is human have problems with at sometime through out our lifes.
So whatever your into doesn't mean your mental but other people might thinks and why some fetists out there they might be right .
But chicken and egg comes to mind . |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
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"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?"
I read an article today that said veganism is healthy and good for the planet.
Turns out we both read bullshit.
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"I believe its more about psychological exploration rather than psychological issues. The need to explore can be born of issues but also can just be from a more adventurous psychological nature. "
Explain this to me as if I was a 12 year old child (honestly 12). As it gives me your view , contradicts it with second sentence and essentially says nothing at all. That's how I read it based on my zero academic knowledge of mental health |
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"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?"
What was article? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Of course there is a link between enjoying BDSM and mental health. But it doesn’t have to be a negative correlation.
Its why safe SANE and consensual (SSC) is no longer considered appropriate, and has been replaced by RACK, as rarely anything we do would be considered Sane!"
What is RACK? |
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"Of course there is a link between enjoying BDSM and mental health. But it doesn’t have to be a negative correlation.
Its why safe SANE and consensual (SSC) is no longer considered appropriate, and has been replaced by RACK, as rarely anything we do would be considered Sane!
What is RACK? "
Risk Aware Consensual Kink |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Of course there is a link between enjoying BDSM and mental health. But it doesn’t have to be a negative correlation.
Its why safe SANE and consensual (SSC) is no longer considered appropriate, and has been replaced by RACK, as rarely anything we do would be considered Sane!
What is RACK?
Risk Aware Consensual Kink "
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By *iren!!Woman
over a year ago
Coventry |
You can't choose whether you have mental health issues or not, but you always have choices when you participate in BDSM.
For some of my fet friends, it helps to balance out the sense of control in a kink scenario vs feeling powerless to what's occuring in reality. |
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"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?"
I’m far more into BDSM than just swinging…I see those men in white coats!!!! |
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"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?"
Where can I find this article please? |
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By *ensualMan
over a year ago
Sutton |
There is an Australian survey of about 10 years ago that concluded that BDSM practitioners on average had better mental health than vanilla people.
The argument that there are people into BDSM that have mental health issues is a poor one. Every group in society (footballers, nurses, etc) have a proportion of people with mental health issues, BDSM is no different, than the rest of society.
It is a lazy stereotype and easy plotline from badly written books, films and TV shows. I have seen innumerable TV shows where the killer is the guy or gal into kink
The truth is there is load of people who practice BDSM that don't have mental health issues. However due to the stigma they don't publicly identify themselves.
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By *xydadbodMan
over a year ago
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Nothing wrong with enjoying a kink or two really.. I didn't realised that there was a significant link to mental health before though.. I always thought it was something that intrigued me rather than the going ons on what's in my head. May need to look into that |
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For a long time I found myself in a forced submissive relationship of which I had no control and made me mentally ill in itself. The relationship was not kinky in any way and BDSM was never discussed even though I did always fantasise and love the idea of it. Since splitting up from them I have now met my dream woman and will update this soon xxxx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Isn't this normal though? Some people like bungee jumping or driving fast. It might be for a reason if we really drill down into it but doesn't mean it's a detrimental mental health issue |
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"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?"
Where did you read that? |
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"Of course there is a link between enjoying BDSM and mental health. But it doesn’t have to be a negative correlation.
Its why safe SANE and consensual (SSC) is no longer considered appropriate, and has been replaced by RACK, as rarely anything we do would be considered Sane!"
RACK is an alternate to SSC not a replacement. There are quite a few BDSM practises that don't carry anymore risk than carrying on normal everyday life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In honesty. As someone that is in the scene and with mental health I’d say that I personally see an overlap.
BDSM doesn’t make me mental.
I’m mental with or with play, but often find a good spanking sparks clarity and can be very therapeutic  |
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You could proberlly say that about any hobbie or interest that holds an elliment of risk I've recently been diagnosed with Adhd which proberlly explains past behaviours and current ones as I'm always looking for the next adrenaline ride open water swimming potholing swinging and Bdsm all present with risk and a hit of adrenaline it would be interesting to investigate how many peeps who enjoy risky past times have Adhd or other Neurodiversetise
Thankfully I had a good jimminy cricket and managed not to go to far down the wrong path x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I find that those, including myself and very comfortable wishing their own skin
In fact I feel it takes mental stability to be able to explore your kinks safely and have a fun time |
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"I wonder how many people *don't* have some form of mental health issue however minor.
I think you find most people do
Think its down to pollution
Nothing to do with bdsm "
I think it's down to being human  |
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"I wonder how many people *don't* have some form of mental health issue however minor.
I think you find most people do
Think its down to pollution
Nothing to do with bdsm
I think it's down to being human
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Apart from you can go to tribes in the Amazon who have no history
Of mental illness its a western thing . |
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"I wonder how many people *don't* have some form of mental health issue however minor.
I think you find most people do
Think its down to pollution
Nothing to do with bdsm
I think it's down to being human
Apart from you can go to tribes in the Amazon who have no history
Of mental illness its a western thing ."
I see |
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"Of mental illness its a western thing .
(Citation please and) oh, don't tell the Japanese that! "
Saw a documentary on it some years ago with regard this that some tribes didn't . I ment modern society
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"Of mental illness its a western thing .
(Citation please and) oh, don't tell the Japanese that!
Saw a documentary on it some years ago with regard this that some tribes didn't . I ment modern society
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That situation has changed as a quick Google will show.
Mental health issues aren't a new thing, they're just a little more acceptable to talk about now. Some however still feel the stigma attached and are unable to do that, especially men.
The more people who discuss mental health positively, the more research will be done and hopefully more people can be reached and helped/supported. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You could proberlly say that about any hobbie or interest that holds an elliment of risk I've recently been diagnosed with Adhd which proberlly explains past behaviours and current ones as I'm always looking for the next adrenaline ride open water swimming potholing swinging and Bdsm all present with risk and a hit of adrenaline it would be interesting to investigate how many peeps who enjoy risky past times have Adhd or other Neurodiversetise
Thankfully I had a good jimminy cricket and managed not to go to far down the wrong path x"
I think neurodiverse would be more appropriate than a mental health condition. With these studies, are we not just discovering that the thin line of normality isn't so thin after all. We're all encouraged to be more open and honest about ourselves whilst being more understanding about everyone else. A lot of the ideas about normal behaviour come from a very close minded time and place. We are far more open to ideas/behaviour that were once considered an illness, weird or socially unacceptable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I suspect that everyone on the planet has some form of mental health issue just as we are all somewhere on an autism spectrum"
I disagree that we are all on the autistic spectrum. That's a bit of a myth. Most of us may have a characteristic or two that are shared with those on the spectrum. But being on the spectrum is quite different to being neurotypical. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've been told multiple times that there's something wrong with me because of what I enjoy sexually. Usually by people who haven't done any reading or thinking about BDSM  . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've been told multiple times that there's something wrong with me because of what I enjoy sexually. Usually by people who haven't done any reading or thinking about BDSM ."
Women aren't supposed to enjoy sex! |
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I find it a strange world. If my partner is happy to engage, what is the real issue.
The fact I like spanking or shibari is no issue if my partner agrees and trusts me or visa versa.
If I go out and indicate I am gay, then its accepted. In fact, should someone dare to show disapproval, they will be chastised.
Put your sexual persuasian on a job application and you can sue them if the discriminate.
Now replace the word gay with the initials BDSM and see how you get on in the PC correct and tolerant world.
People are so very different. One persons BDSM might be a spank and nipple clamps. Anothers migh be needle and ribbon corsets. Anothe might be into having boobs nailed to wooden planks.
Even if your a straight once a week knees up bum down sort of person doesnt mean your normal at all.
Clearly there are people who do have mental issue and they inflict or get inflicted.
But it isnt really an exact science. A friend has had mental issues and to be frank, the person trying to help has not made any progress and arguably, the person is in more a deteriorated state than when the help was initially sought from me looking in.
It boils down to what the hell is normal.
Often influenced by religious and moral attitudes. Yet the oldest profession is still prostitution and religious folk still sexually abuse the proverbial flock.
Yet I cant comment in public that I like some BDSM without the degree of judgement suffered by communities further up the scorned food chain.
I don't have mental issues other than being stubborn perhaps and in a PVC wet look catsuit, I look like michelin man and black puddings love child.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've seen similar writings before. Unfortunately there is a stigma around BDSM and the people who enjoy it / partake. Some people judge what they don't understand. I personally don't think there is a correlation between the two.
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Again people talking about things they dont understand or no about.
Most people who engage in bdsm especially couples have a very honest and open and safe trusting relationship partly due to the trust you have with your partner to engage in the activities. |
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"Again people talking about things they dont understand or no about.
Most people who engage in bdsm especially couples have a very honest and open and safe trusting relationship partly due to the trust you have with your partner to engage in the activities. "
Hallelujah xx |
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"I've seen similar writings before. Unfortunately there is a stigma around BDSM and the people who enjoy it / partake. Some people judge what they don't understand. I personally don't think there is a correlation between the two.
Px"
Based purely on what I observe on here, I reckon otherwise |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I love, and actually enjoy BDSM.
Having transitioned has affected that part of my life. I just haven’t been active in that lifestyle since starting my transition, mainly due to finding the correct kind of person to whom I would put my trust in. This site isn’t really the place for kinky shit though. It puts some people off ( most tbh)
So I just mention spanking in my list of interests.   |
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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"I'm think there could be a link with low self esteem and subservient preferences.in some cases."
Tend to disagree, from my perspective ever female I have come in contact within the scene have high pressure, positions and use the dynamic as a cognitive release.
As for mental health issues, don’t think there is a “normal”, just some people are less normal than your perspective. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've been told multiple times that there's something wrong with me because of what I enjoy sexually. Usually by people who haven't done any reading or thinking about BDSM .
Women aren't supposed to enjoy sex! "
I'm not. I just lie back and think of England, chuck |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i dont even know what BDSM means , not even bothered about knowing either......
Then why post on a thread about BDSM?
To get a reaction maybe?"
Well if it's to annoy people, he has succeeded. It riles me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?
I read an article today that said veganism is healthy and good for the planet.
Turns out we both read bullshit.
C"
as far as bdsm goes I don't think it's more insane than much else we get up to as a species, at least it's fun for those involved.
Sadly veganism is way better for the planet than eating meat. I'm a bad person hohum |
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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago
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"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?
I read an article today that said veganism is healthy and good for the planet.
Turns out we both read bullshit.
C
as far as bdsm goes I don't think it's more insane than much else we get up to as a species, at least it's fun for those involved.
Sadly veganism is way better for the planet than eating meat. I'm a bad person hohum"
Smiles) so the findings that certain animal fat proteins are useful for increasing intelligence, is the reason vegetarians bleat on? |
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By *ady23Woman
over a year ago
Coventry |
"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?"
Everyone has their kinks - not mental but there are extremes with everything - key words - consensual and boundaries. Life and let live I say - we all have a tinge of insanity in us lol |
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By *lceeWoman
over a year ago
Leeds |
The scene is attractive to many with serious mental health issues and a background of trauma. It is not, in and of itself an indicator of poor mental health.
From someone who has spent the last twenty years engaging in D/s play, I can say with absolute certainty that my love for power exchange is innate…I knew what I enjoyed at the same age as I knew I was bi. It was just what I wanted.
If that makes me mental, I don’t want to be sane  |
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"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?"
what utter rubbish |
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By *alypsoWoman
over a year ago
Hinckley |
"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?"
It’s always personal choice and people who put labels on other people for what they enjoy have more mental health issues than you. They don’t like their perceived conformity. |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds |
"I read an article that basically stated that if you enjoy any kind of BDSM you have some form of mental health issues.
I just wondered if people on here feel there's any truth to this or what your opinions are if anyone has any thoughts on the matter?
I read an article today that said veganism is healthy and good for the planet.
Turns out we both read bullshit.
C
as far as bdsm goes I don't think it's more insane than much else we get up to as a species, at least it's fun for those involved.
Sadly veganism is way better for the planet than eating meat. I'm a bad person hohum
Smiles) so the findings that certain animal fat proteins are useful for increasing intelligence, is the reason vegetarians bleat on?"
How did I miss this? Animal-based proteins are what makes humanity stringer and more intelligent.
They've admitted plant-based diets aren't good for the environent finally but rather regenerative agriculture is (vegan and meat diets are helped by this)
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I find the OPs question that BDSM is a mental illness is untrue.
Times change.
It wasnt that long ago that being "gay" was a criminal offence for which you could be jailed and get a criminal conviction.
Now - nobody bats an eye.
Yet - mention you like being spanked or tied or nipple clamped and you are viewed as weird.
Intolerances are wonderfully shite aren't they |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think most people suffer mental health issues of one form or another during their life, some worse than others. Don’t see why it necessarily correlates with enjoying BDSM. Sounds like opinion/research of someone with too much time on their hands… perhaps they should be tied up |
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By *ooukMan
over a year ago
Skegness |
under UK law you're not allowed to consent to self-harm. so it classed as a mental health issue to want to consent. but your not breaking the law to want it but seen more of the victim. but CPS will not act unless there other reasons like abuse. but it same as getting some body piercing there laws that cover it but it not in any interest for police or CPS to look into it. I would point people over to spanner trust for info about laws. but no one is a freak or wrong to like bdsm it just they have laws due to some use bdsm for abuse. |
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By *entDomMan
over a year ago
Paddock Wood, Kent |
I saw a programme once about people with addictive personalities.
So basically are some people more susceptible to harmful addiction.
It aligned them to, and I certainly know people like this and you will too, people who go all out with a hobby for instance and then repeat this behaviour. For instance I had a neighbour and also a good friend like this. Their garages were full of, scuba diving equipment, cycles parachutes, drones, water-skiing, microlight stuff, photography equipment, hifi equipment, I could go on. All hobbies that they had ploughed money into because they had to have the best stuff and then when something else caught their eye....
Inevitably relationships had suffered because of this but because it wasn't illegal or involved drugs, alcohol or gambling I'd wasn't treated or even recognised as an addiction.
Anyway my point is that they aligned people like this as being psychopaths or very close. So everything we do in life can be labelled.
That said I did see a sub who many years before had a Dom who was a Sadist and having heard some of her stories I might well agree with the mental health assessment. As he was on the face of it a professional very well spoken family man by day. |
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