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"I have bisexual on my profile and a couple accused me of lying about it. We hadn't even met. They said they wouldn't meet me because I probably wasn't bi!!! Sometimes you can't win." agree with u there i had bi up 2 had no genuine meets only wanted to play with my gf | |||
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"Agree 100% if your bi say you are I've had winks and messages from both couples and single guys where it states they are straight ! Also just yesterday a so called straight guy messages me stating he want to fuck my mouth and suck me off now exactly the actions of a straight male eh lol Come on if ya bi say you are it makes it easier for all " Flip side of the 'honesty best' approach is reality of how many cpls and singles will not meet bi guys for whatever reason, so I suppose it is understandable for people to be sneaky. I don't mind if a guy messages me wanting to be fucked, if he says he's straight I don't care | |||
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"There is no simple answer to this one, it does appear as though there are quite a few men and couple profiles where the man is classed as straight but then when the circumstances require they miraculously change to bi, even I get loads of messages from straight guys to meet, although I point it out they nearly always say it's because most people won't meet bi men!!! is that really true??? If so, then why??? " imho it is out and out homohobia and the continued association of homosexual acts with HIV and AIDS, and the ide that bi and gay men are more promiscuous-I think they are-and less safe sex conscious-which I think they certainly are not. | |||
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"Agree 100% if your bi say you are I've had winks and messages from both couples and single guys where it states they are straight ! Also just yesterday a so called straight guy messages me stating he want to fuck my mouth and suck me off now exactly the actions of a straight male eh lol Come on if ya bi say you are it makes it easier for all Flip side of the 'honesty best' approach is reality of how many cpls and singles will not meet bi guys for whatever reason, so I suppose it is understandable for people to be sneaky. I don't mind if a guy messages me wanting to be fucked, if he says he's straight I don't care" (here we go again). Its not sneaky or understandable. Its just downright dishonest, selfish, and not very nice. If we met up with someone who stated they were straight and then we found out they were bi, besides not seeing the person again, we would not be happy at being deceived. Is there a law about having sex under false pretences | |||
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"I'm bi but am considering changing my status to straight to stop all the blokes who can't read the bit of my profile that says "Not looking for guys!" messaging me! There's other sites if I want to chase the men, I'm on this site for women & couples & if a bit of bloke fun is added, fair enough. I've always tried to be honest... But I sort of get how you lasses & couples feel with messages from guys who don't read profiles! Humph! " A lot of guys will assume that 'bi' means bi at all times. It fails to register that for some guys 'bi' is situational. | |||
"Agree 100% if your bi say you are I've had winks and messages from both couples and single guys where it states they are straight ! Also just yesterday a so called straight guy messages me stating he want to fuck my mouth and suck me off now exactly the actions of a straight male eh lol Come on if ya bi say you are it makes it easier for all Flip side of the 'honesty best' approach is reality of how many cpls and singles will not meet bi guys for whatever reason, so I suppose it is understandable for people to be sneaky. I don't mind if a guy messages me wanting to be fucked, if he says he's straight I don't care (here we go again). Its not sneaky or understandable. Its just downright dishonest, selfish, and not very nice. If we met up with someone who stated they were straight and then we found out they were bi, besides not seeing the person again, we would not be happy at being deceived. Is there a law about having sex under false pretences " Think you need to chill out tbh | |||
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"There is no simple answer to this one, it does appear as though there are quite a few men and couple profiles where the man is classed as straight but then when the circumstances require they miraculously change to bi, even I get loads of messages from straight guys to meet, although I point it out they nearly always say it's because most people won't meet bi men!!! is that really true??? If so, then why??? imho it is out and out homohobia and the continued association of homosexual acts with HIV and AIDS, and the ide that bi and gay men are more promiscuous-I think they are-and less safe sex conscious-which I think they certainly are not." Don't wholly agree it's homophobia. I think it has a LOT to do with the guy not being 100% comfortable with his own sexuality - either himself or in front of his partner. I KNOW I am 100% straight. That does NOT make me homophobic (won't go into lengthy details why, but believe me I have tested that...). This is very timely for us as Perky and I shared our first MFM at the weekend with another 100% straight guy. As both of us guys are 'mature', we just accepted that cocks and balls would inevitable touch in the heat of the moment, but there was no suggestion of the sudden desire to suck one anothers cocks 'just because the opportunity arose'. The problem comes when people are not honest in their profile narratives. If the guy is 'curious' - then say so and explain the level of 'curiosity'. And I don't believe for one moment this arguement/excuse that people won't meet bi-guys. At the moment, we're not looking for that, but there may be a time in the future where we are, and would make that clear - as MANY couples do. | |||
"There is no simple answer to this one, it does appear as though there are quite a few men and couple profiles where the man is classed as straight but then when the circumstances require they miraculously change to bi, even I get loads of messages from straight guys to meet, although I point it out they nearly always say it's because most people won't meet bi men!!! is that really true??? If so, then why??? imho it is out and out homohobia and the continued association of homosexual acts with HIV and AIDS, and the ide that bi and gay men are more promiscuous-I think they are-and less safe sex conscious-which I think they certainly are not." So, i'm homophobic if i choose not to meet a bi/gay guy because i'm straight? | |||
"Agree 100% if your bi say you are I've had winks and messages from both couples and single guys where it states they are straight ! Also just yesterday a so called straight guy messages me stating he want to fuck my mouth and suck me off now exactly the actions of a straight male eh lol Come on if ya bi say you are it makes it easier for all Flip side of the 'honesty best' approach is reality of how many cpls and singles will not meet bi guys for whatever reason, so I suppose it is understandable for people to be sneaky. I don't mind if a guy messages me wanting to be fucked, if he says he's straight I don't care (here we go again). Its not sneaky or understandable. Its just downright dishonest, selfish, and not very nice. If we met up with someone who stated they were straight and then we found out they were bi, besides not seeing the person again, we would not be happy at being deceived. Is there a law about having sex under false pretences " I think imo you will never ever 100% know if a guy may have or not tried bi before. You only have your instincts, and why also should a person you are meeting reveal what maybe their inner most secret, eg tried it once and didn't like it. We have no problem meeting bi guys, because they are there to meet us, at that given time, what they have done in prior meets/life will not affect the quality of the meet. What happens if a male you meet is straight, and then perhaps a month or two down the line decides that he might want to try bi, be experimental etc, what are you going to do then? Is this going to make you feel unclean What people get up to prior or after meeting you is their own business, and only ever would affect you during a meet if boundaries of any description be it bi stuff or not are overstepped. | |||
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"There is no simple answer to this one, it does appear as though there are quite a few men and couple profiles where the man is classed as straight but then when the circumstances require they miraculously change to bi, even I get loads of messages from straight guys to meet, although I point it out they nearly always say it's because most people won't meet bi men!!! is that really true??? If so, then why??? imho it is out and out homohobia and the continued association of homosexual acts with HIV and AIDS, and the ide that bi and gay men are more promiscuous-I think they are-and less safe sex conscious-which I think they certainly are not. So, i'm homophobic if i choose not to meet a bi/gay guy because i'm straight? " Can I ask you a question please? | |||
"There is no simple answer to this one, it does appear as though there are quite a few men and couple profiles where the man is classed as straight but then when the circumstances require they miraculously change to bi, even I get loads of messages from straight guys to meet, although I point it out they nearly always say it's because most people won't meet bi men!!! is that really true??? If so, then why??? imho it is out and out homohobia and the continued association of homosexual acts with HIV and AIDS, and the ide that bi and gay men are more promiscuous-I think they are-and less safe sex conscious-which I think they certainly are not. So, i'm homophobic if i choose not to meet a bi/gay guy because i'm straight? Can I ask you a question please? " Ask away! | |||
"There is no simple answer to this one, it does appear as though there are quite a few men and couple profiles where the man is classed as straight but then when the circumstances require they miraculously change to bi, even I get loads of messages from straight guys to meet, although I point it out they nearly always say it's because most people won't meet bi men!!! is that really true??? If so, then why??? imho it is out and out homohobia and the continued association of homosexual acts with HIV and AIDS, and the ide that bi and gay men are more promiscuous-I think they are-and less safe sex conscious-which I think they certainly are not. So, i'm homophobic if i choose not to meet a bi/gay guy because i'm straight? Can I ask you a question please? Ask away!" Thank you I am curious, yes wrong word but oh well lol Would you meet a couple where the guy stated he was bi/curious, even when boundaries were established and there was no danger of him "pouncing" on you? As you would only be playing with the female, so would make no difference to you what he has or not done in previous meets? | |||
"There is no simple answer to this one, it does appear as though there are quite a few men and couple profiles where the man is classed as straight but then when the circumstances require they miraculously change to bi, even I get loads of messages from straight guys to meet, although I point it out they nearly always say it's because most people won't meet bi men!!! is that really true??? If so, then why??? imho it is out and out homohobia and the continued association of homosexual acts with HIV and AIDS, and the ide that bi and gay men are more promiscuous-I think they are-and less safe sex conscious-which I think they certainly are not. So, i'm homophobic if i choose not to meet a bi/gay guy because i'm straight? Can I ask you a question please? Ask away! Thank you I am curious, yes wrong word but oh well lol Would you meet a couple where the guy stated he was bi/curious, even when boundaries were established and there was no danger of him "pouncing" on you? As you would only be playing with the female, so would make no difference to you what he has or not done in previous meets?" I wouldn't have ANY qualms about meeting in those circumstances. If, as you say, boundaries were set beforehand, why not? My whole point is, i wouldn't meet a guy on his own, but that doesn't make me homophobic. | |||
"There is no simple answer to this one, it does appear as though there are quite a few men and couple profiles where the man is classed as straight but then when the circumstances require they miraculously change to bi, even I get loads of messages from straight guys to meet, although I point it out they nearly always say it's because most people won't meet bi men!!! is that really true??? If so, then why??? imho it is out and out homohobia and the continued association of homosexual acts with HIV and AIDS, and the ide that bi and gay men are more promiscuous-I think they are-and less safe sex conscious-which I think they certainly are not. So, i'm homophobic if i choose not to meet a bi/gay guy because i'm straight? Can I ask you a question please? Ask away! Thank you I am curious, yes wrong word but oh well lol Would you meet a couple where the guy stated he was bi/curious, even when boundaries were established and there was no danger of him "pouncing" on you? As you would only be playing with the female, so would make no difference to you what he has or not done in previous meets? I wouldn't have ANY qualms about meeting in those circumstances. If, as you say, boundaries were set beforehand, why not? My whole point is, i wouldn't meet a guy on his own, but that doesn't make me homophobic." I don't think you are You'd not want to a meet a guy on his own of course not, just was interested to see if you had the same perspective as us, (us being a couple and you being a single male) | |||
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"There is no simple answer to this one, it does appear as though there are quite a few men and couple profiles where the man is classed as straight but then when the circumstances require they miraculously change to bi, even I get loads of messages from straight guys to meet, although I point it out they nearly always say it's because most people won't meet bi men!!! is that really true??? If so, then why??? imho it is out and out homohobia and the continued association of homosexual acts with HIV and AIDS, and the ide that bi and gay men are more promiscuous-I think they are-and less safe sex conscious-which I think they certainly are not. So, i'm homophobic if i choose not to meet a bi/gay guy because i'm straight? Can I ask you a question please? Ask away! Thank you I am curious, yes wrong word but oh well lol Would you meet a couple where the guy stated he was bi/curious, even when boundaries were established and there was no danger of him "pouncing" on you? As you would only be playing with the female, so would make no difference to you what he has or not done in previous meets? I wouldn't have ANY qualms about meeting in those circumstances. If, as you say, boundaries were set beforehand, why not? My whole point is, i wouldn't meet a guy on his own, but that doesn't make me homophobic. I don't think you are You'd not want to a meet a guy on his own of course not, just was interested to see if you had the same perspective as us, (us being a couple and you being a single male) " Julie, hope you don't mind me jumping in on this - we don't meet couples with a bi/bi-curious male for two reasons: first - if the couple really wants to meet another for possible male-bi fun, then we are not for them and wouldn't want to waste their time. Second, although I don't have a problem with my bits touching another guys in the heat of fun, Perky does not want to watch me playing with another guy - in fact, she is somewhat more against it than me. Now before anyone suggests SHE is the homophobic one out of the two of us, she has an adult gay son - she is not homophobic. It's just, in our relationship, male bi play is not something she has any desire to encourage or watch. And all that still does not make me homophobic either. Pork | |||
"There is no simple answer to this one, it does appear as though there are quite a few men and couple profiles where the man is classed as straight but then when the circumstances require they miraculously change to bi, even I get loads of messages from straight guys to meet, although I point it out they nearly always say it's because most people won't meet bi men!!! is that really true??? If so, then why??? imho it is out and out homohobia and the continued association of homosexual acts with HIV and AIDS, and the ide that bi and gay men are more promiscuous-I think they are-and less safe sex conscious-which I think they certainly are not. So, i'm homophobic if i choose not to meet a bi/gay guy because i'm straight? Can I ask you a question please? Ask away! Thank you I am curious, yes wrong word but oh well lol Would you meet a couple where the guy stated he was bi/curious, even when boundaries were established and there was no danger of him "pouncing" on you? As you would only be playing with the female, so would make no difference to you what he has or not done in previous meets? I wouldn't have ANY qualms about meeting in those circumstances. If, as you say, boundaries were set beforehand, why not? My whole point is, i wouldn't meet a guy on his own, but that doesn't make me homophobic. I don't think you are You'd not want to a meet a guy on his own of course not, just was interested to see if you had the same perspective as us, (us being a couple and you being a single male) " In those circumstances its just the same as the two guys being straight so see nothing wrong with it. Its when i turn up for a meet with a couple, and during play the guy asks if ok to suck me off, (which has happened even tho both were 'straight' on their profile) that i don't like! | |||
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"There is no simple answer to this one, it does appear as though there are quite a few men and couple profiles where the man is classed as straight but then when the circumstances require they miraculously change to bi, even I get loads of messages from straight guys to meet, although I point it out they nearly always say it's because most people won't meet bi men!!! is that really true??? If so, then why??? imho it is out and out homohobia and the continued association of homosexual acts with HIV and AIDS, and the ide that bi and gay men are more promiscuous-I think they are-and less safe sex conscious-which I think they certainly are not. So, i'm homophobic if i choose not to meet a bi/gay guy because i'm straight? Can I ask you a question please? Ask away! Thank you I am curious, yes wrong word but oh well lol Would you meet a couple where the guy stated he was bi/curious, even when boundaries were established and there was no danger of him "pouncing" on you? As you would only be playing with the female, so would make no difference to you what he has or not done in previous meets? I wouldn't have ANY qualms about meeting in those circumstances. If, as you say, boundaries were set beforehand, why not? My whole point is, i wouldn't meet a guy on his own, but that doesn't make me homophobic. I don't think you are You'd not want to a meet a guy on his own of course not, just was interested to see if you had the same perspective as us, (us being a couple and you being a single male) Julie, hope you don't mind me jumping in on this - we don't meet couples with a bi/bi-curious male for two reasons: first - if the couple really wants to meet another for possible male-bi fun, then we are not for them and wouldn't want to waste their time. Second, although I don't have a problem with my bits touching another guys in the heat of fun, Perky does not want to watch me playing with another guy - in fact, she is somewhat more against it than me. Now before anyone suggests SHE is the homophobic one out of the two of us, she has an adult gay son - she is not homophobic. It's just, in our relationship, male bi play is not something she has any desire to encourage or watch. And all that still does not make me homophobic either. Pork" Hey Pork, no not at all...I have no desire for M to be involved in it, that is not really what I am trying to say though. I am trying to say that just because a guy is bi or curious, and has been said before, he might not want to do it say every meet. So it is not important to us whether a guy is or not, as it won't be involved within our play. | |||
"Just highlights the differences between establishing boundaries before play and then in the heat of the moment someone asks if they can do something else. If it's all set and established before play then you shouldn't have fears about anything untowards happening... i.e no bum sex... final answer Wolf " Yes exactly, boundaries set in advance... | |||
"Just highlights the differences between establishing boundaries before play and then in the heat of the moment someone asks if they can do something else. If it's all set and established before play then you shouldn't have fears about anything untowards happening... i.e no bum sex... final answer Wolf Yes exactly, boundaries set in advance... " Well yes, because it sounds like most straight guys are worried about something being unleashed on them without prior approval which puts them in danger of a 'play stop' moment and an awkward explanation of something which could equally be misconstrued as a homophobic rant, despite it just being a statement of preference. Most (I'd say 99.9999....%) Bi guys are very respectful and will take a no to mean just that, so there should be no fears about things. Whilst I was straight and looking for my first MFM I was very into the idea of a Bi guy being the other male partner as they are so well behaved (obviously a subject for another thread, but...). Wolf | |||
"Just highlights the differences between establishing boundaries before play and then in the heat of the moment someone asks if they can do something else. If it's all set and established before play then you shouldn't have fears about anything untowards happening... i.e no bum sex... final answer Wolf Yes exactly, boundaries set in advance... Well yes, because it sounds like most straight guys are worried about something being unleashed on them without prior approval which puts them in danger of a 'play stop' moment and an awkward explanation of something which could equally be misconstrued as a homophobic rant, despite it just being a statement of preference. Most (I'd say 99.9999....%) Bi guys are very respectful and will take a no to mean just that, so there should be no fears about things. Whilst I was straight and looking for my first MFM I was very into the idea of a Bi guy being the other male partner as they are so well behaved (obviously a subject for another thread, but...). Wolf " I think that is exactly what it boils down to, true straight guys worry that mid flow they look up to see wifey has gone to the toilet and Mr is down there instead lol | |||
"Just highlights the differences between establishing boundaries before play and then in the heat of the moment someone asks if they can do something else. If it's all set and established before play then you shouldn't have fears about anything untowards happening... i.e no bum sex... final answer Wolf Yes exactly, boundaries set in advance... Well yes, because it sounds like most straight guys are worried about something being unleashed on them without prior approval which puts them in danger of a 'play stop' moment and an awkward explanation of something which could equally be misconstrued as a homophobic rant, despite it just being a statement of preference. Most (I'd say 99.9999....%) Bi guys are very respectful and will take a no to mean just that, so there should be no fears about things. Whilst I was straight and looking for my first MFM I was very into the idea of a Bi guy being the other male partner as they are so well behaved (obviously a subject for another thread, but...). Wolf " Now see that's why I'd only meet a couple where the male was bi Sorry, but if there's a hard cock within a foot of me I'm gonna want a feel if not a liddle suck Unless I'm in the toilets at Asda at the time. | |||
"I think that is exactly what it boils down to, true straight guys worry that mid flow they look up to see wifey has gone to the toilet and Mr is down there instead lol" Which is almost exactly what happened to me once..... most disconcerting... Lol! | |||
"I think that is exactly what it boils down to, true straight guys worry that mid flow they look up to see wifey has gone to the toilet and Mr is down there instead lol Which is almost exactly what happened to me once..... most disconcerting... Lol! " I shouldn't laugh but that made me laugh! What did you say/do? | |||
"I think that is exactly what it boils down to, true straight guys worry that mid flow they look up to see wifey has gone to the toilet and Mr is down there instead lol Which is almost exactly what happened to me once..... most disconcerting... Lol! " See... again if you've got the 'working relationship' (you know.. on talking terms and beyond the usual monosyllabic grunt exchanges) with the other guy, and you get to know em well, you know what their prefs are and dovetail in with 'em. There need be no fear. Fancy a virtual pint Pork? Wolf | |||
"I think that is exactly what it boils down to, true straight guys worry that mid flow they look up to see wifey has gone to the toilet and Mr is down there instead lol Which is almost exactly what happened to me once..... most disconcerting... Lol! See... again if you've got the 'working relationship' (you know.. on talking terms and beyond the usual monosyllabic grunt exchanges) with the other guy, and you get to know em well, you know what their prefs are and dovetail in with 'em. There need be no fear. Fancy a virtual pint Pork? Wolf " Yep. Mines a 6X | |||
"I think that is exactly what it boils down to, true straight guys worry that mid flow they look up to see wifey has gone to the toilet and Mr is down there instead lol Which is almost exactly what happened to me once..... most disconcerting... Lol! See... again if you've got the 'working relationship' (you know.. on talking terms and beyond the usual monosyllabic grunt exchanges) with the other guy, and you get to know em well, you know what their prefs are and dovetail in with 'em. There need be no fear. Fancy a virtual pint Pork? Wolf Yep. Mines a 6X " Drinks all round then! result Wolf | |||
"I think that is exactly what it boils down to, true straight guys worry that mid flow they look up to see wifey has gone to the toilet and Mr is down there instead lol Which is almost exactly what happened to me once..... most disconcerting... Lol! I shouldn't laugh but that made me laugh! What did you say/do?" After the initial shock subsided..... 'proceedings' were brought to an end by her... and I got the impression he weren't 'gettin any' that night.... I did a 'News of the World'... (made my excuses and left..) | |||
"I think that is exactly what it boils down to, true straight guys worry that mid flow they look up to see wifey has gone to the toilet and Mr is down there instead lol Which is almost exactly what happened to me once..... most disconcerting... Lol! See... again if you've got the 'working relationship' (you know.. on talking terms and beyond the usual monosyllabic grunt exchanges) with the other guy, and you get to know em well, you know what their prefs are and dovetail in with 'em. There need be no fear. Fancy a virtual pint Pork? Wolf Yep. Mines a 6X Drinks all round then! result Wolf " I should point out that, in choosing Wadworths 6X, I am not over-compensating for latent homosexual feelings for you, Wolf. | |||
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