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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group." I don’t think the costs discourages men from attending at all and don’t think it’s for that reason. Any club who’s serious about a good vibe and good ratios will have guest lists to manage it. Charging men more doesn’t stop it being a cock fest. It’s just about making money and business sense IMO. Not slating it, it’s a business. X | |||
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"Just because there are more single guys that dose not give clubs the right to discriminate dose it ? Just imagine what would happen if football clubs charged women more to go to a game because more men go to football. ( other sports are available) Really why not? That makes no sense." | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up ." Clubs are over subscribed by couples, I say double their fees to keep the numbers down | |||
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"Just because there are more single guys that dose not give clubs the right to discriminate dose it ? Just imagine what would happen if football clubs charged women more to go to a game because more men go to football. ( other sports are available)" That's not the same thing though. You would need to charge the men more again because there's too many that go. I started playing dodgeball last year and becsuse they were trying to encourage women to play I only paid 50p per session whereas the men paid something like £3. | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up ." The clubs with the different pricing are using it to attract women/TV to the venue because single men then follow. Would you prefer to pay more but the demographics you want are there in sufficient numbers, or everyone pay the same but its mainly single guys? | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. I don’t think the costs discourages men from attending at all and don’t think it’s for that reason. Any club who’s serious about a good vibe and good ratios will have guest lists to manage it. Charging men more doesn’t stop it being a cock fest. It’s just about making money and business sense IMO. Not slating it, it’s a business. X" But if does discourage some though. Threads like this prove it. There's always men on them saying how they are taking a stand and simply won't pay. It is also good business sense to charge women less because a club full of cock is no good unless it's a club for gay/bi people. | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group." What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? " Top many pushy men usually. | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? " For me it's because there are too many couples and lecherous husbands and not enough single men. | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? Top many pushy men usually. " but surely women don't know that before they go? Only some guys are like that the majority are not | |||
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"We live in era of supposed sexual equality the pricing difference is blatant sexual discrimination.if there's any lawyers on here would be interesting to know? Take this scenario if a club was just full of women the club would be making no money. Not all clubs price discriminate. " But that's never going to happen because blokes are horny buggers Unless it's a ladies only night, in which case I'd imagine they'd have to pay LvM | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? For me it's because there are too many couples and lecherous husbands and not enough single men." that's interesting I do think that couples think that clubs are for them. | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? For me it's because there are too many couples and lecherous husbands and not enough single men." Agreed, seems to be the husbands of a couple that are much more pushy than single guys. | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? Top many pushy men usually. but surely women don't know that before they go? Only some guys are like that the majority are not " Have you ever been a single woman attending a club? Maybe go with their experiences rather than assuming your own. Women talk to other women, share their experiences and make judgments based on reviews. But like trip advisor and choosing where to eat. I was a very regular club goer and have not had many bad experiences (but that's because I'll generally fuck most people in a club lol but there are a lot of guys that go to clubs and expect sex with whoever because they've paid to get in. They wrongly assume that they are paying for access to pussy rather than access to the club. | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? For me it's because there are too many couples and lecherous husbands and not enough single men.that's interesting I do think that couples think that clubs are for them. " Therein lies the problem. | |||
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"Also membership fees! Why do single women and couples get free membership but guys no?! Again a money making scam. Here's a question for you ladies.. Would you pay the membership fee and the higher price to go to a club? " Yes, I would for a good club night. V x | |||
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"Also membership fees! Why do single women and couples get free membership but guys no?! Again a money making scam. Here's a question for you ladies.. Would you pay the membership fee and the higher price to go to a club? " Yes I would pay providing the singles outnumbered the couple's. | |||
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"Just because there are more single guys that dose not give clubs the right to discriminate dose it ? Just imagine what would happen if football clubs charged women more to go to a game because more men go to football. ( other sports are available)" Isn't it incredibly fortunate then that you live in a world that doesn't force you to go to clubs | |||
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"Also membership fees! Why do single women and couples get free membership but guys no?! Again a money making scam. Here's a question for you ladies.. Would you pay the membership fee and the higher price to go to a club? " Again..... To encourage memberships from those groups! It's really not hard to understand. A lot of Men are willing to pay for sex, or the opportunity of it, either in clubs or in private by way of sex workers. I'd pay more as a single female but I understand why club owners make it more enticing for under represented groups. | |||
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"Theres been a lot of comments about single women and TVs getting in for free to lure in single guys to the club , dose this not in some ways prostitute them with out them knowing it ?" No. Simple really. They don't have to fuck any male that goes there. | |||
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"No it's not fair. It makes some men assume that they are paying for sex and they get pushy and pissed off. It makes some women and couples think they are on a higher status than men, even though they are literally the sex bait. Everyone is paying for the same facilities, the price should be the same for every person regardless of sex, gender, relationship status. " Shit! Read through every single comment wondering if I should post my thoughts, then I read this!! Nail. On. The. Head. | |||
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"Theres been a lot of comments about single women and TVs getting in for free to lure in single guys to the club , dose this not in some ways prostitute them with out them knowing it ? Absolutely not! have you actually been to a club ? Nobody is under any obligation to sleep with anyone. Your not paying to get into a club for guaranteed sex " | |||
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"Theres been a lot of comments about single women and TVs getting in for free to lure in single guys to the club , dose this not in some ways prostitute them with out them knowing it ? Absolutely not! have you actually been to a club ? Nobody is under any obligation to sleep with anyone. Your not paying to get into a club for guaranteed sex " for me it is not about guaranteed sex, its about equality. | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up ." Don’t agree with it at all. What’s to say you don’t class yourself as a female though ? | |||
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"Theres been a lot of comments about single women and TVs getting in for free to lure in single guys to the club , dose this not in some ways prostitute them with out them knowing it ? Absolutely not! have you actually been to a club ? Nobody is under any obligation to sleep with anyone. I didn't say they where and yes I've have been to a club with my girlfriend. Your not paying to get into a club for guaranteed sex " | |||
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"The post is about charging or not to get in to clubs NOT ABOUT PAYING FOR SEX . As far as I know there are no clues on fab that do this ." You equated it to prostitution though | |||
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"No it's not fair. It makes some men assume that they are paying for sex and they get pushy and pissed off. It makes some women and couples think they are on a higher status than men, even though they are literally the sex bait. Everyone is paying for the same facilities, the price should be the same for every person regardless of sex, gender, relationship status. " Agree with this Partly why I've never visited clubs its just a cash grab scamming horny guys! It's not like you guaranteed action after all lol. Would rather meet in a bar mutual grounds and see where it goes | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? Top many pushy men usually. but surely women don't know that before they go? Only some guys are like that the majority are not " A single gal that clubs all over… go to one that has a controlled guest list. I’ve never been to an event with not a lot of single women! Ever. If anything, there’s always more couples and single women than men. Never been over ran with single men and never been pushy. It makes me sad single women have this view… clearly aren’t clubbing where I am x | |||
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"For me it's because there are too many couples and lecherous husbands and not enough single men." oh this 100% we dont go often like we used too as for us the other couples are the problem mainly and the men of the couples thinking they have all the claims ...we go to clubs for guys and by that we mean guys who are not part of a swinging couple dont get us wrong there are some really nice couples .... but a clib with limited men is a no no from us and those clubs that have the same couples and guys in week after week we stay well clear of... as for the op question no everyone should pay the same the laws are a very greay area that one day someone will challenge (they will tell you its not but very simple google searches will say it is) give us a club full of me anyday that way we get a good choice of fun | |||
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"Ladies pay less to attract them to clubs. Men pay more to keep the numbers down. If men only had to pay £10 to get in, the place would be wall to wall men couples would be put off and so would the few numbers of ladies that turn up leading to the club closing or turning into a gay club. " I don’t agree with your last point, that’s down to the club to enforce. Townhouse caps the number of single guys allowed in to their events | |||
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"The post is about charging or not to get in to clubs NOT ABOUT PAYING FOR SEX . As far as I know there are no clues on fab that do this . You equated it to prostitution though " No you missed the point the I asked if the clouds are exploiting woman and TVs | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? For me it's because there are too many couples and lecherous husbands and not enough single men." I sort of agree though I’m leaving the letcherous but out I am straight so my main focus is “men” , I have very little interest in playing with the wives unfortunately, so unless I’m attending with friends I wouldn’t rock up alone … | |||
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"Ladies pay less to attract them to clubs. Men pay more to keep the numbers down. If men only had to pay £10 to get in, the place would be wall to wall men couples would be put off and so would the few numbers of ladies that turn up leading to the club closing or turning into a gay club. I don’t agree with your last point, that’s down to the club to enforce. Townhouse caps the number of single guys allowed in to their events " Exactly this. Don’t pretend it’s to stop men attending. Just say it’s business and men pay so we’re charging it. A club can control how many men attend in some cases they obviously just don’t want too lol. As someone who only plays with single men… townhouse is my fave | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up ." I agree with the logic and if a workman's pub charged women 30 quid while let me in for free it would be uproar... however if clubs didn't do this. It would be full of men who have no idea how the scene works. Eventually driving females and couples away to private parties. So ud be getting in the club for free. But would only have men to play with | |||
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"Ladies pay less to attract them to clubs. Men pay more to keep the numbers down. If men only had to pay £10 to get in, the place would be wall to wall men couples would be put off and so would the few numbers of ladies that turn up leading to the club closing or turning into a gay club. I don’t agree with your last point, that’s down to the club to enforce. Townhouse caps the number of single guys allowed in to their events Exactly this. Don’t pretend it’s to stop men attending. Just say it’s business and men pay so we’re charging it. A club can control how many men attend in some cases they obviously just don’t want too lol. As someone who only plays with single men… townhouse is my fave " I just cant see why because clubs limit numbers of single guys they should charge more it's there choice to limit them. | |||
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"Ladies pay less to attract them to clubs. Men pay more to keep the numbers down. If men only had to pay £10 to get in, the place would be wall to wall men couples would be put off and so would the few numbers of ladies that turn up leading to the club closing or turning into a gay club. I don’t agree with your last point, that’s down to the club to enforce. Townhouse caps the number of single guys allowed in to their events Exactly this. Don’t pretend it’s to stop men attending. Just say it’s business and men pay so we’re charging it. A club can control how many men attend in some cases they obviously just don’t want too lol. As someone who only plays with single men… townhouse is my fave I just cant see why because clubs limit numbers of single guys they should charge more it's there choice to limit them." I don’t think they should charge them more. I agree with you. People saying charging men more is to discourage them to attend was what I didn’t agree with. If a club wants to limit numbers they can, shouldn’t be done through coat IMO xx | |||
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"Number of couples needs controlling. Far too many and why I rarely go to clubs these days." Completely off topic but you have a wonderful smile! | |||
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"Just because there are more single guys that dose not give clubs the right to discriminate dose it ? Just imagine what would happen if football clubs charged women more to go to a game because more men go to football. ( other sports are available)" It's not discrimination. Your analogy doesn't work. Winston | |||
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"Ladies pay less to attract them to clubs. Men pay more to keep the numbers down. If men only had to pay £10 to get in, the place would be wall to wall men couples would be put off and so would the few numbers of ladies that turn up leading to the club closing or turning into a gay club. I don’t agree with your last point, that’s down to the club to enforce. Townhouse caps the number of single guys allowed in to their events Exactly this. Don’t pretend it’s to stop men attending. Just say it’s business and men pay so we’re charging it. A club can control how many men attend in some cases they obviously just don’t want too lol. As someone who only plays with single men… townhouse is my fave I just cant see why because clubs limit numbers of single guys they should charge more it's there choice to limit them. I don’t think they should charge them more. I agree with you. People saying charging men more is to discourage them to attend was what I didn’t agree with. If a club wants to limit numbers they can, shouldn’t be done through coat IMO xx" Do clubs/people think that if men are charged more they will get a more respectful type of man ? Money doesn't buy class or respect. | |||
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"We live in era of supposed sexual equality the pricing difference is blatant sexual discrimination.if there's any lawyers on here would be interesting to know? Take this scenario if a club was just full of women the club would be making no money. Not all clubs price discriminate. " "If a club was just full of women".....you crack me up! | |||
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"I love putting a dress or skirt on to save a few quid x" Don't give some single guys an idea on saving a few kid lol. | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up ." It is wholly unfair but the only thing you can do about it, is boycott the most unfairly priced venues. There are two clubs in the NW I won't ever visit, because of their gender-biased pricing; not only do they charge solo males more for on the night entry, but they insist everyone pays a membership fee too. The thing is, solo males are charged £60 ANNUALLY, whereas solo females and couples are charged £5 LIFETIME. I find that truly diabolical, but some appear happy to pay it. | |||
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"I bee to No3 in Chorley a number of times. I walked in one time with a lady as we arranged to meet in the car park. That ask for my fab name. They charged me as a single guy and not as a couple. Needless to say I have never been again " That’s because you arnt a couple | |||
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"I bee to No3 in Chorley a number of times. I walked in one time with a lady as we arranged to meet in the car park. That ask for my fab name. They charged me as a single guy and not as a couple. Needless to say I have never been again That’s because you arnt a couple" Some places let any male and female single profiles couple up to get cheaper entry for the man (club play and Cupid’s for example). Some have to be a more “legit couple” with couples profiles (townhouse and no.3) x | |||
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"I bee to No3 in Chorley a number of times. I walked in one time with a lady as we arranged to meet in the car park. That ask for my fab name. They charged me as a single guy and not as a couple. Needless to say I have never been again That’s because you arnt a couple Some places let any male and female single profiles couple up to get cheaper entry for the man (club play and Cupid’s for example). Some have to be a more “legit couple” with couples profiles (townhouse and no.3) x" So people are only a couple of they have a couple's profile? What about people that aren't on fab etc? | |||
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"Ladies pay less to attract them to clubs. Men pay more to keep the numbers down. If men only had to pay £10 to get in, the place would be wall to wall men couples would be put off and so would the few numbers of ladies that turn up leading to the club closing or turning into a gay club. " Sorry but what absolute rubbish, plenty of women go to clubs because they enjoy them and would still attend even if men paid the same as them . And I don't agree with men having to pay more than women either I think they get ripped off by having to do that. | |||
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"I bee to No3 in Chorley a number of times. I walked in one time with a lady as we arranged to meet in the car park. That ask for my fab name. They charged me as a single guy and not as a couple. Needless to say I have never been again " But were you going to act as a single guy in the club? You’re paying for different experiences as a single guy and a couple, so that’s why they charge more! | |||
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"I bee to No3 in Chorley a number of times. I walked in one time with a lady as we arranged to meet in the car park. That ask for my fab name. They charged me as a single guy and not as a couple. Needless to say I have never been again That’s because you arnt a couple Some places let any male and female single profiles couple up to get cheaper entry for the man (club play and Cupid’s for example). Some have to be a more “legit couple” with couples profiles (townhouse and no.3) x" Why do clubs think all swingers are on fad ? I know 2 couples who swing who aren't so white know what they would charge them ? | |||
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"If someone is not happy about the clubs entrance fee then don't go! No one forces you, it's your choice." But if they don't it stops woman and others getting with huge reductions . | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group." This logic makes no sense. If that were the case they’d just say “no more than 10 single men tonight” (for example). It’s far easier to enforce. Putting the price up doesn’t stop men from coming - what happens if 1000 single men come that can all pay the asking price? The real reason they charge more is because they know that horny single men will pay it. It’s as simple as that. | |||
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"I’d rather there were more single guys and less couples in clubs. That’s only because that’s my preference though " So limited numbers dont work for all. | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up ." If no females frequent the club, you are unlikely to attract a many males. Perfect business sense really! | |||
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"I’d rather there were more single guys and less couples in clubs. That’s only because that’s my preference though So limited numbers dont work for all." Wouldn't it be better in that case to change your profile to Bi/Gay and frequent Gay clubs instead????? | |||
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"I would be happy if they were banned entirely. Single men are not exactly hard to find and the only people who cause trouble. " Not true, we've never had problems with single men, couples however have been the ones to bring all the drama and issues in our experience. Mr Hayes. | |||
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"I would be happy if they were banned entirely. Single men are not exactly hard to find and the only people who cause trouble. " I’ve had a few husbands in couples causing trouble. | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up ." Totally fair | |||
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"I would be happy if they were banned entirely. Single men are not exactly hard to find and the only people who cause trouble. " Nooooo single guys are the only reason I go! | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? For me it's because there are too many couples and lecherous husbands and not enough single men." A lot of single woman i have chatted with say that couples are often worse than single guys.... | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up . The clubs with the different pricing are using it to attract women/TV to the venue because single men then follow. Would you prefer to pay more but the demographics you want are there in sufficient numbers, or everyone pay the same but its mainly single guys? " If it were just about the demographics, they would simply put a cap on the amount of single men... which they also already do. They charge more simply because they can. | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? For me it's because there are too many couples and lecherous husbands and not enough single men. A lot of single woman i have chatted with say that couples are often worse than single guys...." I’ve found couples to be much more pushy than the single guys, they struggle to take no for an answer (particularly the females, strangely enough). The female half won’t take it that you’re straight and if you do agree to fuck her man, she can’t help herself but touch! This is purely my experience, I’m not saying this is true of all couples (obviously) but I can only comment on my own experience. | |||
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"I would be happy if they were banned entirely. Single men are not exactly hard to find and the only people who cause trouble. " I've seen plenty of d*unk women causing trouble. Men seem to drink less in clubs so they can remain functional. Obviously not always the case but banning one demographic because of a few incidents would mean you have very empty clubs. | |||
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"I would be happy if they were banned entirely. Single men are not exactly hard to find and the only people who cause trouble. " Backs up my earlier point some couples think that clubs are just for them!! | |||
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"I would be happy if they were banned entirely. Single men are not exactly hard to find and the only people who cause trouble. I've seen plenty of d*unk women causing trouble. Men seem to drink less in clubs so they can remain functional. Obviously not always the case but banning one demographic because of a few incidents would mean you have very empty clubs. " Yes and I've seen plenty of d*unk couples being thrown out! | |||
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"I would be happy if they were banned entirely. Single men are not exactly hard to find and the only people who cause trouble. " Have another pot of tar to dip that brush in. I've seen plenty of d*unk, entitled and argumentative couples at clubs, as well as d*unken, loud, gropey women. And of course a few pain in the arse single blokes. To say it's "only single men who cause trouble" is not accurate. Winston | |||
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"I would be happy if they were banned entirely. Single men are not exactly hard to find and the only people who cause trouble. Not true, we've never had problems with single men, couples however have been the ones to bring all the drama and issues in our experience. Mr Hayes." No no, no, nope, no no no! Single guys are the sole reason that anything is wrong in the world! | |||
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"Number of couples needs controlling. Far too many and why I rarely go to clubs these days." Each time you comment you have a go at couples so what you should do is go to the singles nights which nearly all clubs run so that would solve YOUR problem | |||
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"I would be happy if they were banned entirely. Single men are not exactly hard to find and the only people who cause trouble. Not true, we've never had problems with single men, couples however have been the ones to bring all the drama and issues in our experience. Mr Hayes. No no, no, nope, no no no! Single guys are the sole reason that anything is wrong in the world! " Ah, sorry my mistake ... wait no... your mistake as you're the single guy Mr Hayes. | |||
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" Nooooo single guys are the only reason I go! " God id love to see you in action x | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up ." I'm an age of equality men wouldn't earn more than women would they? Surely the guys can afford it where they can work for a higher salary and not have to stop their career for maternity leave etc!? PW | |||
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"Theres been a lot of comments about single women and TVs getting in for free to lure in single guys to the club , dose this not in some ways prostitute them with out them knowing it ?" Couldn't the same be said for guys that pay for nights out, wining and dining a woman in the hopes she'll drop her knickers afterwards? PW | |||
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"It sounds to me like it's both because men out number any other democratic and that its about the second visit. Think about it, many couples in particular want to play with other couples so will in the main, not play with a single man. The single man whose not got his rocks off will feel ripped off, again a generalisation, but thinks fuck that I'm not going there again. The lucky men who do play think, this is great and go the next time too. Meanwhile that next time a new guy steps into the shoes of didn't succeed last time and won't go again man." You’re correct to a certain degree with your generalisation of whether or not a solo guy gets to play or not, and their subsequent enjoyment of a club visit/return. For my part though, I would just like to feel welcome in a club full of nobody I know, and that comes down to an attentive host, to help me feel included, instead of the usual take your money at the ‘till, and “It’s through there” reception | |||
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"They want to attract single females obviously so Prices are lower. I’m sure you men would want a club full of single men" I think the ladies who are in the scene will go anyway irrespective of price. The lower prices for ladies will that encourage random women to go? I doubt it. | |||
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"I bee to No3 in Chorley a number of times. I walked in one time with a lady as we arranged to meet in the car park. That ask for my fab name. They charged me as a single guy and not as a couple. Needless to say I have never been again That’s because you arnt a couple Some places let any male and female single profiles couple up to get cheaper entry for the man (club play and Cupid’s for example). Some have to be a more “legit couple” with couples profiles (townhouse and no.3) x Why do clubs think all swingers are on fad ? I know 2 couples who swing who aren't so white know what they would charge them ?" No club I’ve ever been to expect everyone to be on fab There’s lots of different sites you can use and their own club websites to book a place/ ticket. But if your actively giving out single profiles don’t expect them to be happy giving you couples tickets prices! Seems strange to expect that IMO x | |||
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"I bee to No3 in Chorley a number of times. I walked in one time with a lady as we arranged to meet in the car park. That ask for my fab name. They charged me as a single guy and not as a couple. Needless to say I have never been again That’s because you arnt a couple Some places let any male and female single profiles couple up to get cheaper entry for the man (club play and Cupid’s for example). Some have to be a more “legit couple” with couples profiles (townhouse and no.3) x Why do clubs think all swingers are on fad ? I know 2 couples who swing who aren't so white know what they would charge them ? No club I’ve ever been to expect everyone to be on fab There’s lots of different sites you can use and their own club websites to book a place/ ticket. But if your actively giving out single profiles don’t expect them to be happy giving you couples tickets prices! Seems strange to expect that IMO x" We I couldn’t give them a couples profile as she was married. Yes her husband did know that she was meeting me. She gave her fab name & I gave mine and she checked fab profile. I have had chams check my profile in fab too. | |||
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"I bee to No3 in Chorley a number of times. I walked in one time with a lady as we arranged to meet in the car park. That ask for my fab name. They charged me as a single guy and not as a couple. Needless to say I have never been again That’s because you arnt a couple Some places let any male and female single profiles couple up to get cheaper entry for the man (club play and Cupid’s for example). Some have to be a more “legit couple” with couples profiles (townhouse and no.3) x Why do clubs think all swingers are on fad ? I know 2 couples who swing who aren't so white know what they would charge them ? No club I’ve ever been to expect everyone to be on fab There’s lots of different sites you can use and their own club websites to book a place/ ticket. But if your actively giving out single profiles don’t expect them to be happy giving you couples tickets prices! Seems strange to expect that IMO x We I couldn’t give them a couples profile as she was married. Yes her husband did know that she was meeting me. She gave her fab name & I gave mine and she checked fab profile. I have had chams check my profile in fab too. " Yeah so your going as 2 singles together. As I said earlier some clubs let you “couple up” so would have allowed it. Others only allow partners or FWB to get couple tickets - and that’s the only couple you can be sort of thing. Always best to check xx | |||
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"I bee to No3 in Chorley a number of times. I walked in one time with a lady as we arranged to meet in the car park. That ask for my fab name. They charged me as a single guy and not as a couple. Needless to say I have never been again That’s because you arnt a couple Some places let any male and female single profiles couple up to get cheaper entry for the man (club play and Cupid’s for example). Some have to be a more “legit couple” with couples profiles (townhouse and no.3) x Why do clubs think all swingers are on fad ? I know 2 couples who swing who aren't so white know what they would charge them ? No club I’ve ever been to expect everyone to be on fab There’s lots of different sites you can use and their own club websites to book a place/ ticket. But if your actively giving out single profiles don’t expect them to be happy giving you couples tickets prices! Seems strange to expect that IMO x We I couldn’t give them a couples profile as she was married. Yes her husband did know that she was meeting me. She gave her fab name & I gave mine and she checked fab profile. I have had chams check my profile in fab too. Yeah so your going as 2 singles together. As I said earlier some clubs let you “couple up” so would have allowed it. Others only allow partners or FWB to get couple tickets - and that’s the only couple you can be sort of thing. Always best to check xx" But how are they going to verify that the people are a "genuine" couple? | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up . Clubs are over subscribed by couples, I say double their fees to keep the numbers down " Or how about have a club that does not allow couples at all and only charges a nominal fee to singles. I’m the sure the market will decide if it is a better model. | |||
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"Cost of entry is not about equality. You have the same opportunity to enter the premises however to save it from being wall to wall blokes the cost of entry is higher for an over subscribed group of people. Or you could look at it as subsidising the cost of entry for women/TV's to encourage more participation from an under representated group. What is the reason why there are few single women in clubs? For me it's because there are too many couples and lecherous husbands and not enough single men." Why are husbands lecherous yet not single men? They are swingers clubs or sex clubs. Not nightclubs to get a ‘date’ - puzzling. | |||
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"I bee to No3 in Chorley a number of times. I walked in one time with a lady as we arranged to meet in the car park. That ask for my fab name. They charged me as a single guy and not as a couple. Needless to say I have never been again That’s because you arnt a couple Some places let any male and female single profiles couple up to get cheaper entry for the man (club play and Cupid’s for example). Some have to be a more “legit couple” with couples profiles (townhouse and no.3) x Why do clubs think all swingers are on fad ? I know 2 couples who swing who aren't so white know what they would charge them ? No club I’ve ever been to expect everyone to be on fab There’s lots of different sites you can use and their own club websites to book a place/ ticket. But if your actively giving out single profiles don’t expect them to be happy giving you couples tickets prices! Seems strange to expect that IMO x We I couldn’t give them a couples profile as she was married. Yes her husband did know that she was meeting me. She gave her fab name & I gave mine and she checked fab profile. I have had chams check my profile in fab too. Yeah so your going as 2 singles together. As I said earlier some clubs let you “couple up” so would have allowed it. Others only allow partners or FWB to get couple tickets - and that’s the only couple you can be sort of thing. Always best to check xx But how are they going to verify that the people are a "genuine" couple? " They can’t really. Not exactly demanding marriage certificates or the likes lol. But if your a “couple” at certain clubs you can’t attend as a couple with others. And if you go fairly regularly people get to know everyone don’t they. I club with a guy and we buy singles tickets because we both club with others and single too. at certain places we can couple up and he gets it cheaper. Others we can’t. I think it’s fair x | |||
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"Theres been a lot of comments about single women and TVs getting in for free to lure in single guys to the club , dose this not in some ways prostitute them with out them knowing it ?" It does. This is what the business model is based on. Not many like to admit it though. But them’s the facts. Also consider that many, maybe most but probably not all “sex clubs” aka swingers clubs are started by couples who want to move into the scene a bit more ‘full on’ and make a fuller lifestyle/living from it. So naturally those venues are going to focus mainly on couples and cater the business model to their needs. With the growth of websites such as this and increasing market for singles then maybe there’s an enterprising single who will invest a million or three it would take to set up a singles focused club. Judging by the interest from single males and females on this thread and the overall ‘fairness’ argument it must be a winning formula surely? | |||
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"Just because there are more single guys that dose not give clubs the right to discriminate dose it ?" Single men are more likely to be unpleasant in a club that a women at a foot match. Clubs are private businesses and can do as they wish. There are few enough situations where men don't have it all their way | |||
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"I think it is totally unfair and think single men and women should pay the same amount to enter a club." Would you want men to pay the same as women, or women to pay the same as men? Winston | |||
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"Well..... I ventured to a certain club in Portsmouth and I certainly agree with OP. Paid what I thought was expensive, because for what it was and what a shite hole. All I will say is never again it was a very strange experience for what happens in there. " Sadly many of the clubs in the UK Are downmarket shit holes. More like travel lodge or a 1970s B&B than Astoria. Now a very luxurious club would be worth paying a real premium to attend! | |||
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"Nothing quite like paying a premium for the chance to be completely passed over because too many men showed up anyway " It's no wonder some men get pissed off! If they'd only paid a tenner they would probably just treat it more as a pub night with the chance to watch people fuck... | |||
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"…….. (Cut for brevity) I can't obviously speak from experience but others have already highlighted above the misconceptions that some people are happy to peddle. Mainly that all that is wrong in this community can be laid firmly at the feet of single men. " You certainly can’t blame all single men for the transgressions or issues caused by a minority who are not suites to this lifestyle or community. We’ve had the pleasure of meeting a number of fantastic people from all walks and both singles and couples. But like every hobby - from camera clubs, motor racing or debating societies… there will be the good band and the ugly. The fact single Males are a dominant demographic will simply mean that the element which let the side down are more numerous. That’s just a number game. Top tip lads: target greedy girls or hot wives nights. More bang for buck | |||
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"The post is about charging or not to get in to clubs NOT ABOUT PAYING FOR SEX . As far as I know there are no clues on fab that do this . You equated it to prostitution though No you missed the point the I asked if the clouds are exploiting woman and TVs " If the lower price of entry was in return for having to have sex with whichever single man wanted them to, that would be exploitation IMO. They still have free choice even though they pay less, and benefit from lower costs compared to single men, so how are they being exploited? | |||
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"Just because there are more single guys that dose not give clubs the right to discriminate dose it ? Just imagine what would happen if football clubs charged women more to go to a game because more men go to football. ( other sports are available)" simple answer don't go would be nice to see someone take it to court.encourage more not to go hopefully they then either equal it up or close. | |||
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"Just because there are more single guys that dose not give clubs the right to discriminate dose it ? Just imagine what would happen if football clubs charged women more to go to a game because more men go to football. ( other sports are available) simple answer don't go would be nice to see someone take it to court.encourage more not to go hopefully they then either equal it up or close." Well if all the guys on here boycotted clubs perhaps they will change! Won't happen though. | |||
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"Is if fair that single men have to pay more to enter ( some ) clubs than single women tvs which is often free for them and still more than couples ? I thought we where in an age of equality and leveling up ." Can't you tell the club you identify as a woman ? | |||
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"Just because there are more single guys that dose not give clubs the right to discriminate dose it ? Just imagine what would happen if football clubs charged women more to go to a game because more men go to football. ( other sports are available) simple answer don't go would be nice to see someone take it to court.encourage more not to go hopefully they then either equal it up or close. Well if all the guys on here boycotted clubs perhaps they will change! Won't happen though. " definitely agree pity though | |||
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"Just because there are more single guys that dose not give clubs the right to discriminate dose it ? Just imagine what would happen if football clubs charged women more to go to a game because more men go to football. ( other sports are available) simple answer don't go would be nice to see someone take it to court.encourage more not to go hopefully they then either equal it up or close. Well if all the guys on here boycotted clubs perhaps they will change! Won't happen though. definitely agree pity though " Would put a whole new meaning to dry January! | |||
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"One of the clubs I go to charges per entry. So couples, single females, single men, me, we all pay the same. One night it can be quite male heavy, the next not so much. No guest lists, no reservations. It CAN work, just got to take the rough with the smooth sometimes. If you want to start looking at legal speak, the Equality Act 2010 lists gender as a protected characteristic. So under certain circumstances it could be illegal to charge differently according to gender. There are loopholes though, and I'm not a Fab lawyer, hence why I'm saying it could be illegal, not that it is. But try telling that to a club then think you're ever getting in! Thing is, it's a sellers market. And while people attend clubs will do whatever they want. And I call bullshit on Kink events not pricing according to gender. If anything they can be worse. But that's a different story. " The protected characteristics don’t apply the same to private members clubs and their fee structure, only to the opportunity to join. | |||
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"Just because there are more single guys that dose not give clubs the right to discriminate dose it ? Just imagine what would happen if football clubs charged women more to go to a game because more men go to football. ( other sports are available) simple answer don't go would be nice to see someone take it to court.encourage more not to go hopefully they then either equal it up or close. Well if all the guys on here boycotted clubs perhaps they will change! Won't happen though. " Then there would be even more threads complaining of no veris or meets! | |||
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"Just because there are more single guys that dose not give clubs the right to discriminate dose it ? Just imagine what would happen if football clubs charged women more to go to a game because more men go to football. ( other sports are available) simple answer don't go would be nice to see someone take it to court.encourage more not to go hopefully they then either equal it up or close. Well if all the guys on here boycotted clubs perhaps they will change! Won't happen though. definitely agree pity though Would put a whole new meaning to dry January! " haha | |||
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"The cost would at least give the opportunity to get a veri, something that prevents outside clubs, meeting opportunities. " Unfortunately that doesn't apply over here either as all male attendees have to be recently meet verified to even get an invitation with no exceptions. | |||
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"Number of couples needs controlling. Far too many and why I rarely go to clubs these days. Each time you comment you have a go at couples so what you should do is go to the singles nights which nearly all clubs run so that would solve YOUR problem " Unfortunately it doesn't because they still allow some couples in. Was same at bi nights, couples got in but the husbands were not bi! A blatant disregard for privacy! | |||
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"She did state in her profile too that she would only go to a club if they were happy to take it further. Instead the guys would try and get into her knickers in the carpark of Costa coffee! :- " Not all that single guys are that desperate it them who give the rest of us a bad name . | |||
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"She did state in her profile too that she would only go to a club if they were happy to take it further. Instead the guys would try and get into her knickers in the carpark of Costa coffee! :- Not all that single guys are that desperate it them who give the rest of us a bad name ." Not that stupid old chestnut again | |||
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"Mrs perfect was unemployed until recently for about 2-2 and a half years. To get out and entertain her self she set up a single profile too meet people. For extra security for herself and after the first social meet with single guys she suggested going into the local club during the day (while I was at work) as a couple and splitting the entrance fee. Not many would put their hand in their pocket for £5 and would rather not meet again! I think for a lot of guys it’s not just about the money? " I regularly spend £55-£60 for a daytime hotel room, for private meets 121. I would have no issue meeting inside a club, or going in as a ‘couple’, for a prearranged meet, and paying my way accordingly. I just don’t enjoy paying a premium to visit a club, then feeling like I’ve gatecrashed someone else’s party | |||
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"First of all, trans women are women so obviously they should be paying the single female price for entry. Secondly, if clubs lowered the price for single men’s entry then clubs would be FULL of single men and all of them would complain that’s there’s too many men and not enough women/couples. Couples and single women would be majorly put off of going to a club with wall to wall single guys and the type of men you really don’t want to meet there would be there. It deters people and controls numbers as well as attracting the right sort of people. C x" do you think charging single guys £20 instead of £10 actually deters that many from going? | |||
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"She did state in her profile too that she would only go to a club if they were happy to take it further. Instead the guys would try and get into her knickers in the carpark of Costa coffee! :- Not all that single guys are that desperate it them who give the rest of us a bad name ." It’s actually the opposite. It makes the ‘rest of you’ stand out more. Saying things like that takes the blame off yourself and puts it on others. | |||
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"One of the clubs I go to charges per entry. So couples, single females, single men, me, we all pay the same. One night it can be quite male heavy, the next not so much. No guest lists, no reservations. It CAN work, just got to take the rough with the smooth sometimes. If you want to start looking at legal speak, the Equality Act 2010 lists gender as a protected characteristic. So under certain circumstances it could be illegal to charge differently according to gender. There are loopholes though, and I'm not a Fab lawyer, hence why I'm saying it could be illegal, not that it is. But try telling that to a club then think you're ever getting in! Thing is, it's a sellers market. And while people attend clubs will do whatever they want. And I call bullshit on Kink events not pricing according to gender. If anything they can be worse. But that's a different story. " Gender isn’t a ‘protected characteristic’. | |||
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"Yes I do. Plenty won’t pay £20 for entry. There is a disproportionate amount of men vs women and couples - being on here for just a day shows that. I know I wouldn’t feel comfortable going to a club that was heaving full of single guys. It’s also about the type of men. If a guy is happy to pay more, it’s likely that he’s more serious about it all and will be respectful. Just observations and my opinion though. C x" that is a fair point but on the other hand you could say that girls or couples getting in for less or free may not be serious about it | |||
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"One of the clubs I go to charges per entry. So couples, single females, single men, me, we all pay the same. One night it can be quite male heavy, the next not so much. No guest lists, no reservations. It CAN work, just got to take the rough with the smooth sometimes. If you want to start looking at legal speak, the Equality Act 2010 lists gender as a protected characteristic. So under certain circumstances it could be illegal to charge differently according to gender. There are loopholes though, and I'm not a Fab lawyer, hence why I'm saying it could be illegal, not that it is. But try telling that to a club then think you're ever getting in! Thing is, it's a sellers market. And while people attend clubs will do whatever they want. And I call bullshit on Kink events not pricing according to gender. If anything they can be worse. But that's a different story. Gender isn’t a ‘protected characteristic’. " https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/4 Both gender reassignment and sex are listed. So being male, female or trans (which does include non-binary) are all protected characteristics. | |||
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"Also membership fees! Why do single women and couples get free membership but guys no?! Again a money making scam. Here's a question for you ladies.. Would you pay the membership fee and the higher price to go to a club? " It's no more a money making 'scam' than Waitrose charging more for a loaf of bread than Lidl. We live in a capitalist society (which people consistently vote for) and businesses are in business to make as much money as possible, and set their prices accordingly. | |||
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"Also membership fees! Why do single women and couples get free membership but guys no?! Again a money making scam. Here's a question for you ladies.. Would you pay the membership fee and the higher price to go to a club? It's no more a money making 'scam' than Waitrose charging more for a loaf of bread than Lidl. We live in a capitalist society (which people consistently vote for) and businesses are in business to make as much money as possible, and set their prices accordingly. " Oh sheeeeeiiiit, that’s just not cricket is it?! | |||
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"Also membership fees! Why do single women and couples get free membership but guys no?! Again a money making scam. Here's a question for you ladies.. Would you pay the membership fee and the higher price to go to a club? It's no more a money making 'scam' than Waitrose charging more for a loaf of bread than Lidl. We live in a capitalist society (which people consistently vote for) and businesses are in business to make as much money as possible, and set their prices accordingly. Oh sheeeeeiiiit, that’s just not cricket is it?! " Now cricket tickets, they really are bloody expensive | |||
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"Also membership fees! Why do single women and couples get free membership but guys no?! Again a money making scam. Here's a question for you ladies.. Would you pay the membership fee and the higher price to go to a club? It's no more a money making 'scam' than Waitrose charging more for a loaf of bread than Lidl. We live in a capitalist society (which people consistently vote for) and businesses are in business to make as much money as possible, and set their prices accordingly. " Quite simply. They charge it cos they can get away with it. Its "their" business to make money. | |||
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"First of all, trans women are women so obviously they should be paying the single female price for entry. Secondly, if clubs lowered the price for single men’s entry then clubs would be FULL of single men and all of them would complain that’s there’s too many men and not enough women/couples. Couples and single women would be majorly put off of going to a club with wall to wall single guys and the type of men you really don’t want to meet there would be there. It deters people and controls numbers as well as attracting the right sort of people. C x" Totally disagree with your points charge more for single guys dose not means you will get a better class of person.lets not forget some men go to clubs to meet men so why should they pay extra ? And it you look at it the other way men who have gone to meet men can complain that because of the lower pricing for women tvs and otheres its spoiling it for them as it's full with them and limiting the amount of single men so less choice for the gay/ bi man. Also theres been many comments about couples causing most trouble in the clubs should they limit them as well? | |||
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"I would be happy if they were banned entirely. Single men are not exactly hard to find and the only people who cause trouble. Not true, we've never had problems with single men, couples however have been the ones to bring all the drama and issues in our experience. Mr Hayes. No no, no, nope, no no no! Single guys are the sole reason that anything is wrong in the world! Ah, sorry my mistake ... wait no... your mistake as you're the single guy Mr Hayes. " I appreciate your apology…. Wait, I’m a single guy…. Screw your and your apology | |||
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"Well..... I ventured to a certain club in Portsmouth and I certainly agree with OP. Paid what I thought was expensive, because for what it was and what a shite hole. All I will say is never again it was a very strange experience for what happens in there. Sadly many of the clubs in the UK Are downmarket shit holes. More like travel lodge or a 1970s B&B than Astoria. Now a very luxurious club would be worth paying a real premium to attend! " Exactly this! As a single guy, the higher prices charged for the services rendered (the club and its facilities, not the women or couples!) is a travesty and the reason why I don’t visit clubs often. If I am to pay those prices, the least I expect is a first class venue or at least an upmarket one. Secondly this argument that if they don’t charge more, they will be overrun with single men doesn’t hold up. Whatever happened to vetting the people being let into the club? Most club owners don’t do this, which often means you get the wrong people (single men, women AND couples) coming in and spoiling the atmosphere for others via lecherous behaviour, poor handling of rejection and couples’ tiffs on display. I don’t have an issue with clubs charging single men more than women and couples from a supply and demand perspective, but the issue I have is the high quantum of fees charged for a service that doesn’t match up. As stated above, most clubs in the UK are completely crap for the fees they ask for, and many party organisers just see it as a money-making scheme. There’s no sophisticated business acumen applied to it. | |||
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