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I've seen quite a few women that are strictly against meeting bi guys.
Just curious as to why?
Surely bi means they are happy with men or women, and if it was a one-on-one meet there'd be no difference to meeting a straight guy?
I'm not bi, but am curious to know what it's like. Pretty sure that doesn't change what I do or how I perform with a lady?
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It's because bi men are lesser, not as masculine and sex with other men is dirty.
I used to get this all the time when I was single bi man. They can tolerate those gay types but the bi men, definitely not.
As a very happy part of a couple for the last decade I avoid like the fucking plague any meets where they have that on profile.
I'm still so surprised that type of homophobia exists, especially on a swingers site but hey-ho, takes all sorts (even us queers)
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"It's because bi men are lesser, not as masculine and sex with other men is dirty.
I used to get this all the time when I was single bi man. They can tolerate those gay types but the bi men, definitely not.
As a very happy part of a couple for the last decade I avoid like the fucking plague any meets where they have that on profile.
I'm still so surprised that type of homophobia exists, especially on a swingers site but hey-ho, takes all sorts (even us queers)
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Take a bow! Everyone has a right to preferences of course, but I always find it a bit odd... |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
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Jessy because maybe the woman dosnt mind sharing with two men as long as she is has the sole attention of them both.
If the guys Re into each other too she might feel a little threatened? |
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease "
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then? |
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"It's because bi men are lesser, not as masculine and sex with other men is dirty.
I used to get this all the time when I was single bi man. They can tolerate those gay types but the bi men, definitely not.
As a very happy part of a couple for the last decade I avoid like the fucking plague any meets where they have that on profile.
I'm still so surprised that type of homophobia exists, especially on a swingers site but hey-ho, takes all sorts (even us queers)
Take a bow! Everyone has a right to preferences of course, but I always find it a bit odd..."
What's so odd about it? By nature, most preferences(especially sexual ones) are illogical and irrational. |
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"It's because bi men are lesser, not as masculine and sex with other men is dirty.
I used to get this all the time when I was single bi man. They can tolerate those gay types but the bi men, definitely not.
As a very happy part of a couple for the last decade I avoid like the fucking plague any meets where they have that on profile.
I'm still so surprised that type of homophobia exists, especially on a swingers site but hey-ho, takes all sorts (even us queers)
Take a bow! Everyone has a right to preferences of course, but I always find it a bit odd...
What's so odd about it? By nature, most preferences(especially sexual ones) are illogical and irrational. "
Absolutely, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, and we all have a right to preferences.
I was thinking of the assumption that a bi guy would somehow be unable to play straight in any given situation, which is what I thought the OP was getting at. Being Bi doesn't mean you'd pounce on every man you meet! |
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"I've seen quite a few women that are strictly against meeting bi guys.
Just curious as to why?
Surely bi means they are happy with men or women, and if it was a one-on-one meet there'd be no difference to meeting a straight guy?
I'm not bi, but am curious to know what it's like. Pretty sure that doesn't change what I do or how I perform with a lady?
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It's even harder for a single female to find 2 bi guys together ...... they automatically insinuate I must be a fake account and actually be another guy WHICH IM NOT |
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?"
More bi and gay men are actively aware of the risks and are more inclined to go to doctors and clinics. Female swingers are also high on the list. Again because they actively check and test themselves regularly . |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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It's purely a person's preference seems like anyone who may think otherwise must have serious issues as it's not judgemental it's not hate it's not being biased just a preference that each and everyone is entitled to have.... |
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?
More bi and gay men are actively aware of the risks and are more inclined to go to doctors and clinics. Female swingers are also high on the list. Again because they actively check and test themselves regularly . "
Are you having any statistics to support your claim that more bi and gay men are aware of the risks than other people? First time I am hearing that.
It's a simple fact that anal sex has higher risk when it comes to spreading STIs. |
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?
More bi and gay men are actively aware of the risks and are more inclined to go to doctors and clinics. Female swingers are also high on the list. Again because they actively check and test themselves regularly .
Are you having any statistics to support your claim that more bi and gay men are aware of the risks than other people? First time I am hearing that.
It's a simple fact that anal sex has higher risk when it comes to spreading STIs."
I’m not Disagreeing , but there is a network setup for gay and bi men to have regular test and checks. Straight men do not have this network.
The top 4 groups are
Men who have sex with men
Sex workers
People from High risk countries like the sub Sahara area
People who have multiple partners such as swingers
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By (user no longer on site)
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I’ve seen and heard women say that they wouldn’t want to be with a bi man because they find it hard enough trying to compete with other women so they don’t want to have to compete with men as well. I can see where they’re coming from but I think if you’re with the right person that you trust completely you shouldn’t have to worry about him looking elsewhere for something better or different. It’s up to the man to show the woman that he’ll always be loyal and committed to her (I know it works both ways as well). In my experience people who are constantly worried and paranoid that their partner is looking elsewhere and continually questioning their actions to reassure themselves, tend to drive people away. No one likes to feel like their partner doesn’t trust them and having to explain what they’re doing and where they are all the time...eventually it becomes self serving |
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Ok there's some good feedback thanks guys. Im all for people having preferences I just couldn't understand it. I hadn't considered that some may consider them at a higher risk of STDs and sharing the attention etc.
Whether I agree with them or not doesnt matter, we all have our own personal views and can just move on. I just like to understand that's all.
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?
More bi and gay men are actively aware of the risks and are more inclined to go to doctors and clinics. Female swingers are also high on the list. Again because they actively check and test themselves regularly .
Are you having any statistics to support your claim that more bi and gay men are aware of the risks than other people? First time I am hearing that.
It's a simple fact that anal sex has higher risk when it comes to spreading STIs."
It’s not a fact that there’s a higher risk of spreading STI’s through anal sex, STI’s get spread more commonly through anal sex because people are less likely to use a condom as there’s no risk of getting someone pregnant. Someone is just as likely to pass on an STI through unprotected vaginal sex as through unprotected anal sex. Maybe that’s what you meant but it sounded like you were saying though. |
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?
More bi and gay men are actively aware of the risks and are more inclined to go to doctors and clinics. Female swingers are also high on the list. Again because they actively check and test themselves regularly .
Are you having any statistics to support your claim that more bi and gay men are aware of the risks than other people? First time I am hearing that.
It's a simple fact that anal sex has higher risk when it comes to spreading STIs.
I’m not Disagreeing , but there is a network setup for gay and bi men to have regular test and checks. Straight men do not have this network.
The top 4 groups are
Men who have sex with men
Sex workers
People from High risk countries like the sub Sahara area
People who have multiple partners such as swingers
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The stats which show higher number if STI infections among homosexual men takes the ratio of number of positive results with number of tests taken. So even if the number of men who take tests is higher, it won't affect the conclusion. |
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?
More bi and gay men are actively aware of the risks and are more inclined to go to doctors and clinics. Female swingers are also high on the list. Again because they actively check and test themselves regularly .
Are you having any statistics to support your claim that more bi and gay men are aware of the risks than other people? First time I am hearing that.
It's a simple fact that anal sex has higher risk when it comes to spreading STIs.
It’s not a fact that there’s a higher risk of spreading STI’s through anal sex, STI’s get spread more commonly through anal sex because people are less likely to use a condom as there’s no risk of getting someone pregnant. Someone is just as likely to pass on an STI through unprotected vaginal sex as through unprotected anal sex. Maybe that’s what you meant but it sounded like you were saying though. "
I meant that the activity of anal sex is more risky than vaginal sex even if you don't use condoms in either cases. You can read it here:
https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/sexual-health/does-anal-sex-have-any-health-risks/
Anus is more vulnerable to infection. |
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?
More bi and gay men are actively aware of the risks and are more inclined to go to doctors and clinics. Female swingers are also high on the list. Again because they actively check and test themselves regularly .
Are you having any statistics to support your claim that more bi and gay men are aware of the risks than other people? First time I am hearing that.
It's a simple fact that anal sex has higher risk when it comes to spreading STIs.
It’s not a fact that there’s a higher risk of spreading STI’s through anal sex, STI’s get spread more commonly through anal sex because people are less likely to use a condom as there’s no risk of getting someone pregnant. Someone is just as likely to pass on an STI through unprotected vaginal sex as through unprotected anal sex. Maybe that’s what you meant but it sounded like you were saying though.
I meant that the activity of anal sex is more risky than vaginal sex even if you don't use condoms in either cases. You can read it here:
https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/sexual-health/does-anal-sex-have-any-health-risks/
Anus is more vulnerable to infection."
Sorry, I didn’t know that, that’s interesting. I just thought it was because people are less likely to use protection during anal sex. |
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?
More bi and gay men are actively aware of the risks and are more inclined to go to doctors and clinics. Female swingers are also high on the list. Again because they actively check and test themselves regularly .
Are you having any statistics to support your claim that more bi and gay men are aware of the risks than other people? First time I am hearing that.
It's a simple fact that anal sex has higher risk when it comes to spreading STIs.
I’m not Disagreeing , but there is a network setup for gay and bi men to have regular test and checks. Straight men do not have this network.
The top 4 groups are
Men who have sex with men
Sex workers
People from High risk countries like the sub Sahara area
People who have multiple partners such as swingers
The stats which show higher number if STI infections among homosexual men takes the ratio of number of positive results with number of tests taken. So even if the number of men who take tests is higher, it won't affect the conclusion."
Think your missing the point. I’m saying these groups test regular. So to exclude one must mean you exclude them all. Is it not better to have sex with someone that tests regular than someone who has never tested ? When were you honestly last tested ?
There is also a high number of straight men that are secretly bi. And also more unlikely to get tested so they aren’t found out.
In our experience openly bi/ gay guys take their health a lot more serious than the casual shag straight men. |
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?
More bi and gay men are actively aware of the risks and are more inclined to go to doctors and clinics. Female swingers are also high on the list. Again because they actively check and test themselves regularly .
Are you having any statistics to support your claim that more bi and gay men are aware of the risks than other people? First time I am hearing that.
It's a simple fact that anal sex has higher risk when it comes to spreading STIs.
It’s not a fact that there’s a higher risk of spreading STI’s through anal sex, STI’s get spread more commonly through anal sex because people are less likely to use a condom as there’s no risk of getting someone pregnant. Someone is just as likely to pass on an STI through unprotected vaginal sex as through unprotected anal sex. Maybe that’s what you meant but it sounded like you were saying though.
I meant that the activity of anal sex is more risky than vaginal sex even if you don't use condoms in either cases. You can read it here:
https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/sexual-health/does-anal-sex-have-any-health-risks/
Anus is more vulnerable to infection.
Sorry, I didn’t know that, that’s interesting. I just thought it was because people are less likely to use protection during anal sex. "
What you mentioned might also have contributed to the numbers. Usually there are multiple reasons for big societal trends like this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?
More bi and gay men are actively aware of the risks and are more inclined to go to doctors and clinics. Female swingers are also high on the list. Again because they actively check and test themselves regularly .
Are you having any statistics to support your claim that more bi and gay men are aware of the risks than other people? First time I am hearing that.
It's a simple fact that anal sex has higher risk when it comes to spreading STIs.
I’m not Disagreeing , but there is a network setup for gay and bi men to have regular test and checks. Straight men do not have this network.
The top 4 groups are
Men who have sex with men
Sex workers
People from High risk countries like the sub Sahara area
People who have multiple partners such as swingers
The stats which show higher number if STI infections among homosexual men takes the ratio of number of positive results with number of tests taken. So even if the number of men who take tests is higher, it won't affect the conclusion.
Think your missing the point. I’m saying these groups test regular. So to exclude one must mean you exclude them all. Is it not better to have sex with someone that tests regular than someone who has never tested ? When were you honestly last tested ?
There is also a high number of straight men that are secretly bi. And also more unlikely to get tested so they aren’t found out.
In our experience openly bi/ gay guys take their health a lot more serious than the casual shag straight men. "
I tested myself about 3 months back. I am more into BDSM stuff/voyeurism than penetrative sex. Still I get myself tested once in awhile if I had penetrative sex even though I have always used condoms.
You are saying that these groups get tested regularly based on anecdotal evidence. There is no statistical evidence for it. Even if what you said is true, all the research papers on the topic compare ratio of positive results with number of tests, not with the entire population. So they have taken it all into account and men who have sex with men have been proven to have higher chance of STIs.
Unless people are asking for recent tests as proof (which some people actually do), one can understand why some wouldn't meet bi men, citing this as a reason. |
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"For some Gay sex still has a stigma of being dirty or risky and those that partake are considered to be higher risk of carrying disease
To be fair, it's not just a stigma. Stats show that homosexual men have higher chance of getting STIs than others. I am personally not against homosexuality or even be with bi men in a group sex scenario. But I get the reasons why some may feel uncomfortable meeting bi men.
Equating one's sexual preferences to homophobia is just downright stupid. Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?
More bi and gay men are actively aware of the risks and are more inclined to go to doctors and clinics. Female swingers are also high on the list. Again because they actively check and test themselves regularly .
Are you having any statistics to support your claim that more bi and gay men are aware of the risks than other people? First time I am hearing that.
It's a simple fact that anal sex has higher risk when it comes to spreading STIs.
I’m not Disagreeing , but there is a network setup for gay and bi men to have regular test and checks. Straight men do not have this network.
The top 4 groups are
Men who have sex with men
Sex workers
People from High risk countries like the sub Sahara area
People who have multiple partners such as swingers
The stats which show higher number if STI infections among homosexual men takes the ratio of number of positive results with number of tests taken. So even if the number of men who take tests is higher, it won't affect the conclusion.
Think your missing the point. I’m saying these groups test regular. So to exclude one must mean you exclude them all. Is it not better to have sex with someone that tests regular than someone who has never tested ? When were you honestly last tested ?
There is also a high number of straight men that are secretly bi. And also more unlikely to get tested so they aren’t found out.
In our experience openly bi/ gay guys take their health a lot more serious than the casual shag straight men.
I tested myself about 3 months back. I am more into BDSM stuff/voyeurism than penetrative sex. Still I get myself tested once in awhile if I had penetrative sex even though I have always used condoms.
You are saying that these groups get tested regularly based on anecdotal evidence. There is no statistical evidence for it. Even if what you said is true, all the research papers on the topic compare ratio of positive results with number of tests, not with the entire population. So they have taken it all into account and men who have sex with men have been proven to have higher chance of STIs.
Unless people are asking for recent tests as proof (which some people actually do), one can understand why some wouldn't meet bi men, citing this as a reason."
Agree it's anecdotal, but certainly my experience too. Appreciate the stats will be proportional to the number of tests taken, but the chance of contracting an STI is much more likely to be affected by the number of partners than the act. A bi guy who has had one partner in a year is much less likely to have an STI than a straight guy who's had 20 partners, so the question should be around how often people are checked etc
Young people and some ethnic groups also have higher rates of STIs than the general population, but might not have the same assumption made about them, so I think the important thing is to encourage openness about sexual health rather than anything else... |
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By *luttTV/TS
over a year ago
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" Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?"
It’s not really the same thing though is it? Fat women are fat whilst the sex is happening. Bi men are not going to be simultaneously having sex with another man (well, unless that’s the plan of course). |
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If there is one thing that I 100% believe is that you should never ever question someone's sexual preferences. They have their reasons and its not anyone's buisness as to know what they are and why. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" Guys who prefer slim women are fatphobic then?
It’s not really the same thing though is it? Fat women are fat whilst the sex is happening. Bi men are not going to be simultaneously having sex with another man (well, unless that’s the plan of course)."
I was focussing on the term phobia. A person not wanting to have sex with a particular group of people doesn't imply they hate the group totally. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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as a totally bi couple meaning we both always been fully bi since teens we dont understand why bi guys keep moaning about people not wanting to meet them ?? why does it matter they are not going to change there minds and its totally preference let people get on with what they want and consentrate on those who are looking for bi men...
we dont meet ''fab bi'' if we can help of it the ones who suck cock just to get pussy they totally dont get real bi people the meets feel fake and then become a turn off ... luckally the are loads of full on bi guys out there too ... again its a preference
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some Bi guys lie about being straight to fuck couples. Some bi guys try it on with the straight man during sex."
Altho it’s more usual for bi women to try it on with straight women in a group situation than for guys to do it. |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
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"The most abuse I got on here is from bi guys. I hate them with a passion! and before yee start my best friend in life is Gay."
But I don't understand why you hate me with a passion?
You've never met me and know nothing about me, yet you hate me? Strange!!!
And you think it's okay to say you hate me because you have a gay friend? Even stranger!!!
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By *batMan
over a year ago
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It's a simple fact that anal sex has higher risk when it comes to spreading STIs."
Lots of straight couples have anal sex.
Lots of Bi men don't have anal sex.
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