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"Because a lot of guys who claim to be straight on here really aren't. " I don't agree, there's probably a few, but definitely not lots. Anyhow, your argument is weak as there's a vast amount of gay guys on here. I'm not saying all gay guys do it, most just go about there business respectful as any decent person, but there's still quite a few gay guys who persistently target straight guys which I just think is very odd. Chances are they'll blocked by most straight guys | |||
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"Same reason as straight guys hit women up with the same kind of chat To get their dicks wet or to get off on the idea of it"  | |||
"Because a lot of guys who claim to be straight on here really aren't. I don't agree, there's probably a few, but definitely not lots. Anyhow, your argument is weak as there's a vast amount of gay guys on here. I'm not saying all gay guys do it, most just go about there business respectful as any decent person, but there's still quite a few gay guys who persistently target straight guys which I just think is very odd. Chances are they'll blocked by most straight guys" I can only go by messages we receive and the majority are not straight despite what their profiles say. It's not a problem for us but might answer your question. | |||
"Why do lots of gay guys on here seek out straight guys when the odds are massively against them, when they have massively better odds with gay guys and would get a better experience anyway" If it bothers you, block men from messaging ? | |||
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"Why do lots of gay guys on here seek out straight guys when the odds are massively against them, when they have massively better odds with gay guys and would get a better experience anyway" Why do some straight guys think lesbians just haven't had the right cock yet? Frank | |||
"Why do lots of gay guys on here seek out straight guys when the odds are massively against them, when they have massively better odds with gay guys and would get a better experience anyway Why do some straight guys think lesbians just haven't had the right cock yet? Frank" Spot on. Some, but not all, gay and bi guys cannot accept that there is such a thing as a totally straight guy. We are happy to play with bi guys as long as they agree to play straight, yet the occasional one has pushed their luck and made a grab for my partner's cock, which is a turn off for both of us, my partner instantly loses his erection and all play stops. | |||
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"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.." As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? | |||
"There are quite a few that put straight on who are intact bi. The reason they do it is bi puts quite a few women and couples off" This, my other half can be orally bi, we put it on our couple profile as we think it's only right to be honest. | |||
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"I’m defiantly straight and still never get to meet you sexy ladies on here" Defiantly straight? So you're straight because of some principle against homosexuality? Or maybe you meant, 'definitely' straight, but didn't bother to check your spelling?  | |||
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"People want what they can't have" I think the same | |||
"I’m defiantly straight and still never get to meet you sexy ladies on here Defiantly straight? So you're straight because of some principle against homosexuality? Or maybe you meant, 'definitely' straight, but didn't bother to check your spelling? "Hahaha Definitely | |||
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"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? " But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? | |||
"My mate is gay and only meets straight guys so that must tell.y something" It tells me nothing other than the fact he only goes for 'straight guys', but I know for a fact most guys listed as straight are straight. | |||
"A lot of guys are bi-curious but afraid to admit it in case in reduces their chances of meeting women or couples who don’t meet bi/bi-curious guys. The funniest thing is straight guy profiles with validations from other men who they clearly had sex with! People should just be honest. Shame they feel they can’t be!" I agree it's better to be honest. But speculatively contacting guys listed as straight on the off chance they're into guys seems a bit pointless when there's an abundance of gay and bi sexual guys eager to meet | |||
"My mate is gay and only meets straight guys so that must tell.y something It tells me nothing other than the fact he only goes for 'straight guys', but I know for a fact most guys listed as straight are straight. " How do you know for a fact that most guys listed as straight are straight? | |||
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"Why do lots of gay guys on here seek out straight guys when the odds are massively against them, when they have massively better odds with gay guys and would get a better experience anyway" The way most men on here bitch and moan about the ladies not throwing them self at all the men on here, most of the men have gone for any shag will do.
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"Why do lots of gay guys on here seek out straight guys when the odds are massively against them, when they have massively better odds with gay guys and would get a better experience anyway The way most men on here bitch and moan about the ladies not throwing them self at all the men on here, most of the men have gone for any shag will do.
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"My mate is gay and only meets straight guys so that must tell.y something It tells me nothing other than the fact he only goes for 'straight guys', but I know for a fact most guys listed as straight are straight. How do you know for a fact that most guys listed as straight are straight?" Just look at the stats of the general population | |||
"My mate is gay and only meets straight guys so that must tell.y something" You mean he only meets guys who profess to be straight. Any man who likes any form of sexual contact with another man isn’t actually straight. | |||
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"A lot of guys are bi-curious but afraid to admit it in case in reduces their chances of meeting women or couples who don’t meet bi/bi-curious guys. The funniest thing is straight guy profiles with validations from other men who they clearly had sex with! People should just be honest. Shame they feel they can’t be! I agree it's better to be honest. But speculatively contacting guys listed as straight on the off chance they're into guys seems a bit pointless when there's an abundance of gay and bi sexual guys eager to meet" True but all the gay people we know get a thrill from the challenge of converting/corrupting straights! | |||
"A lot of guys are bi-curious but afraid to admit it in case in reduces their chances of meeting women or couples who don’t meet bi/bi-curious guys. The funniest thing is straight guy profiles with validations from other men who they clearly had sex with! People should just be honest. Shame they feel they can’t be! I agree it's better to be honest. But speculatively contacting guys listed as straight on the off chance they're into guys seems a bit pointless when there's an abundance of gay and bi sexual guys eager to meet True but all the gay people we know get a thrill from the challenge of converting/corrupting straights!" Not true stop generalizing | |||
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"My mate is gay and only meets straight guys so that must tell.y something You mean he only meets guys who profess to be straight. Any man who likes any form of sexual contact with another man isn’t actually straight. " No he meets literally any guy straight or gay. I think it’s more common than people think. There are men who will go to a gay nan for a BJ but would never do anything back | |||
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 ...and no doubt you guys say the same about us females...So no offence taken...  | |||
"My mate is gay and only meets straight guys so that must tell.y something It tells me nothing other than the fact he only goes for 'straight guys', but I know for a fact most guys listed as straight are straight. " How can you say you know for a fact that most straight guys listed are straight? My mate is on FAB and he only meets and he's met a quite few guys that advertise themselves as straight. They approach him wanting to 'know' what it might be like | |||
"My mate is gay and only meets straight guys so that must tell.y something It tells me nothing other than the fact he only goes for 'straight guys', but I know for a fact most guys listed as straight are straight. " Hilarious | |||
"My mate is gay and only meets straight guys so that must tell.y something It tells me nothing other than the fact he only goes for 'straight guys', but I know for a fact most guys listed as straight are straight. How do you know for a fact that most guys listed as straight are straight? Just look at the stats of the general population " Yep. Everyone who’s a bit curious is happy to put that on a survey | |||
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"Straight men also contact me thinking I’ll say yeah to sex. It’s almost invariably no. Can’t be faffed. " "It’s almost invariably no."? So you do say yes on occasion? Frank | |||
"Why do lots of gay guys on here seek out straight guys when the odds are massively against them, when they have massively better odds with gay guys and would get a better experience anyway" The majority of men that message me on here, (if you can call "hey u wanna suk mi cok" a message) list themselves as straight. Gay and bi guys know what they are, THEY know what they are but they tell themselves theyre "curious". How many times do you have to have sex with a bloke before your curiosity wanes??? Any bloke tha messages me thats "straight" goes unanswered an straight on the block list. Its not a hassle. It takes literally a few seconds. | |||
"Why do lots of gay guys on here seek out straight guys when the odds are massively against them, when they have massively better odds with gay guys and would get a better experience anyway" First of all I think it's open season for all people on here and anyone can message and go after whoever they like unless filters prevent this. I don't think the gay guys on here are doing anything different to any of the other guys on here. A big part of swinging is exploring sexuality and any straight person is entitled to explore without having to redefine themselves or make a big deal out of it. Then of course there's also 'fab straight' where more or less prison rules apply (!) as in, you're still straight so long as you're the one doing the fucking or getting your cock sucked. Society needs to wake up! The MAJORITY of men in the world are either gay, bi, bicurious or msm. MSM stands for men who have sex with men, the idea being that although straight, there is ease and comfort of getting the odd bj or fuck from someone of the same sex. These guys aren't really attracted to men, they are genuinely heterosexual by nature. Many will argue they are not straight if they do this but I disagree, the reasons for their behavior are complex but it's not to do with sexual chemistry or attraction to the same sex. | |||
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"Why do lots of gay guys on here seek out straight guys when the odds are massively against them, when they have massively better odds with gay guys and would get a better experience anyway First of all I think it's open season for all people on here and anyone can message and go after whoever they like unless filters prevent this. I don't think the gay guys on here are doing anything different to any of the other guys on here. A big part of swinging is exploring sexuality and any straight person is entitled to explore without having to redefine themselves or make a big deal out of it. Then of course there's also 'fab straight' where more or less prison rules apply (!) as in, you're still straight so long as you're the one doing the fucking or getting your cock sucked. Society needs to wake up! The MAJORITY of men in the world are either gay, bi, bicurious or msm. MSM stands for men who have sex with men, the idea being that although straight, there is ease and comfort of getting the odd bj or fuck from someone of the same sex. These guys aren't really attracted to men, they are genuinely heterosexual by nature. Many will argue they are not straight if they do this but I disagree, the reasons for their behavior are complex but it's not to do with sexual chemistry or attraction to the same sex. " That is quite a statement... “The MAJORITY of men in the world are either gay, bi, bicurious or msm” although I note the inclusion of “curious” which really is a catchall as people are curious about all sorts of things but do not necessarily act on it. I think if you are on the swinging/fetish/kink scene you are already seeing a different demographic of people to the vanilla world. These are people who are already exploring (or want to explore) a more adventurous and less “normal” sex life. I think that can skew your thinking. | |||
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"Why do lots of gay guys on here seek out straight guys when the odds are massively against them, when they have massively better odds with gay guys and would get a better experience anyway First of all I think it's open season for all people on here and anyone can message and go after whoever they like unless filters prevent this. I don't think the gay guys on here are doing anything different to any of the other guys on here. A big part of swinging is exploring sexuality and any straight person is entitled to explore without having to redefine themselves or make a big deal out of it. Then of course there's also 'fab straight' where more or less prison rules apply (!) as in, you're still straight so long as you're the one doing the fucking or getting your cock sucked. Society needs to wake up! The MAJORITY of men in the world are either gay, bi, bicurious or msm. MSM stands for men who have sex with men, the idea being that although straight, there is ease and comfort of getting the odd bj or fuck from someone of the same sex. These guys aren't really attracted to men, they are genuinely heterosexual by nature. Many will argue they are not straight if they do this but I disagree, the reasons for their behavior are complex but it's not to do with sexual chemistry or attraction to the same sex. " Personally, I would so welcome this! It would be a real solution and all these droves of hungry men who want me to be like them and think my sexuality should be the same as theirs could go and find other men instead of me, other men whose sexuality and communication is more similar to them and they could have a blast together, arranging sex like they are calling for takeaway - everbody is happy and I am left in peace to look for people whose sexuality and interests are closer to mine! | |||
"I’m defiantly straight and still never get to meet you sexy ladies on here Defiantly straight? So you're straight because of some principle against homosexuality? Or maybe you meant, 'definitely' straight, but didn't bother to check your spelling? "Bloody auto correct yes ment to say defo straight sorry if the fuck up offended I’m not against homosexuality | |||
"My mate is gay and only meets straight guys so that must tell.y something You mean he only meets guys who profess to be straight. Any man who likes any form of sexual contact with another man isn’t actually straight. " This! | |||
"I'm happy to meet bi guys as I'm bi myself but if someone says they are straight and then engages in sexual activity with another man they are not straight thus voiding the whole gay or bi guys only playing with straight guys because its not a thing as they are not straight." Hit the nail on the head! | |||
"A lot of guys are bi-curious but afraid to admit it in case in reduces their chances of meeting women or couples who don’t meet bi/bi-curious guys. The funniest thing is straight guy profiles with validations from other men who they clearly had sex with! People should just be honest. Shame they feel they can’t be! I agree it's better to be honest. But speculatively contacting guys listed as straight on the off chance they're into guys seems a bit pointless when there's an abundance of gay and bi sexual guys eager to meet True but all the gay people we know get a thrill from the challenge of converting/corrupting straights!" If a straight person tried to corrupt/convert a devout gay person for their own amusement or gain, then they're just as bad as vice versa. It's disrespectful and in some cases dangerous to play devil's advocate with people's sexuality | |||
"A lot of guys are bi-curious but afraid to admit it in case in reduces their chances of meeting women or couples who don’t meet bi/bi-curious guys. The funniest thing is straight guy profiles with validations from other men who they clearly had sex with! People should just be honest. Shame they feel they can’t be! I agree it's better to be honest. But speculatively contacting guys listed as straight on the off chance they're into guys seems a bit pointless when there's an abundance of gay and bi sexual guys eager to meet True but all the gay people we know get a thrill from the challenge of converting/corrupting straights! Not true stop generalizing" NOT TRUE AT ALL | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? " You can block men from messaging you. End of story | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story " I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. | |||
"Why do lots of gay guys on here seek out straight guys when the odds are massively against them, when they have massively better odds with gay guys and would get a better experience anyway First of all I think it's open season for all people on here and anyone can message and go after whoever they like unless filters prevent this. I don't think the gay guys on here are doing anything different to any of the other guys on here. A big part of swinging is exploring sexuality and any straight person is entitled to explore without having to redefine themselves or make a big deal out of it. Then of course there's also 'fab straight' where more or less prison rules apply (!) as in, you're still straight so long as you're the one doing the fucking or getting your cock sucked. Society needs to wake up! The MAJORITY of men in the world are either gay, bi, bicurious or msm. MSM stands for men who have sex with men, the idea being that although straight, there is ease and comfort of getting the odd bj or fuck from someone of the same sex. These guys aren't really attracted to men, they are genuinely heterosexual by nature. Many will argue they are not straight if they do this but I disagree, the reasons for their behavior are complex but it's not to do with sexual chemistry or attraction to the same sex. Personally, I would so welcome this! It would be a real solution and all these droves of hungry men who want me to be like them and think my sexuality should be the same as theirs could go and find other men instead of me, other men whose sexuality and communication is more similar to them and they could have a blast together, arranging sex like they are calling for takeaway - everbody is happy and I am left in peace to look for people whose sexuality and interests are closer to mine! " That's not how nature works love, sorry to disappoint | |||
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" I Mr am effectively straight always have been and never done anything with another guy apart from maybe lean on another guys shouler during MFM. I recently changed it to Bi Curious for one reason. Fuck licking is on my bucket list to do and even though its the licking of Ks pussy whilst she is been fucked that turns me on your effectively up close with another guys cock and chances are there will be some level of contact. On that basis we figure a Bi Guy may be better to be able to live out this fantasy with so all involved are comfortable. KJ" Fair enough mate. At least you're honest and respectful in your chosen criteria. Same can't be said for some others | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. " So you only want people who you're attracted to to give you attention? That's not how life works! I get lots of unwanted attention from all sorts of people, how they define their sexuality is the least of my concerns. I don't think what you're describing is a 'phenomenon' per se, it's just men being men going after what they want and why shouldn't they? I'm sure you do. Perhaps you wouldn't be so annoyed if you were getting more 'wanted' attention from females? | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. So you only want people who you're attracted to to give you attention? That's not how life works! I get lots of unwanted attention from all sorts of people, how they define their sexuality is the least of my concerns. I don't think what you're describing is a 'phenomenon' per se, it's just men being men going after what they want and why shouldn't they? I'm sure you do. Perhaps you wouldn't be so annoyed if you were getting more 'wanted' attention from females? " You're argument is flawed. Sexuality is a fairly rigid trait. So if someone puts they're straight and a gay person goes after them because it's what they want, they've disrespected what the other person wants. It's not the same as a straight person pursuing another straight person, or a bi person pursuing a bi person etc. Also no I don't only want people I'm attracted to to give me attention, I'll talk to anyone, but if I'm approached by someone with a different sexual disposition to mine, they've disrespected what I want for their own selfish reasons | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. So you only want people who you're attracted to to give you attention? That's not how life works! I get lots of unwanted attention from all sorts of people, how they define their sexuality is the least of my concerns. I don't think what you're describing is a 'phenomenon' per se, it's just men being men going after what they want and why shouldn't they? I'm sure you do. Perhaps you wouldn't be so annoyed if you were getting more 'wanted' attention from females? You're argument is flawed. Sexuality is a fairly rigid trait. So if someone puts they're straight and a gay person goes after them because it's what they want, they've disrespected what the other person wants. It's not the same as a straight person pursuing another straight person, or a bi person pursuing a bi person etc. Also no I don't only want people I'm attracted to to give me attention, I'll talk to anyone, but if I'm approached by someone with a different sexual disposition to mine, they've disrespected what I want for their own selfish reasons" As I said, no different from any other guys, I get tons of messages from guys who haven't read my profile and disrespect what I might want for their own selfish reasons, how they define their sexuality on their profile doesn't even come into it. | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. So you only want people who you're attracted to to give you attention? That's not how life works! I get lots of unwanted attention from all sorts of people, how they define their sexuality is the least of my concerns. I don't think what you're describing is a 'phenomenon' per se, it's just men being men going after what they want and why shouldn't they? I'm sure you do. Perhaps you wouldn't be so annoyed if you were getting more 'wanted' attention from females? You're argument is flawed. Sexuality is a fairly rigid trait. So if someone puts they're straight and a gay person goes after them because it's what they want, they've disrespected what the other person wants. It's not the same as a straight person pursuing another straight person, or a bi person pursuing a bi person etc. Also no I don't only want people I'm attracted to to give me attention, I'll talk to anyone, but if I'm approached by someone with a different sexual disposition to mine, they've disrespected what I want for their own selfish reasons" I'd argue from our own experience that sexuality certainly isn't fairly rigid. In fact our experience is that it is quite the opposite. You say you feel disrespected if someone approaches you. That seems an over reaction. Sounds like a short step from homophobia. Just chill out man I'm sure no-one is trying to cause offence to you. | |||
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"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. So you only want people who you're attracted to to give you attention? That's not how life works! I get lots of unwanted attention from all sorts of people, how they define their sexuality is the least of my concerns. I don't think what you're describing is a 'phenomenon' per se, it's just men being men going after what they want and why shouldn't they? I'm sure you do. Perhaps you wouldn't be so annoyed if you were getting more 'wanted' attention from females? You're argument is flawed. Sexuality is a fairly rigid trait. So if someone puts they're straight and a gay person goes after them because it's what they want, they've disrespected what the other person wants. It's not the same as a straight person pursuing another straight person, or a bi person pursuing a bi person etc. Also no I don't only want people I'm attracted to to give me attention, I'll talk to anyone, but if I'm approached by someone with a different sexual disposition to mine, they've disrespected what I want for their own selfish reasons"
Lots of people disrespect people's wishes on here. Their profile says one thing (looking for, age range, etc) and people message anyway. | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. So you only want people who you're attracted to to give you attention? That's not how life works! I get lots of unwanted attention from all sorts of people, how they define their sexuality is the least of my concerns. I don't think what you're describing is a 'phenomenon' per se, it's just men being men going after what they want and why shouldn't they? I'm sure you do. Perhaps you wouldn't be so annoyed if you were getting more 'wanted' attention from females? You're argument is flawed. Sexuality is a fairly rigid trait. So if someone puts they're straight and a gay person goes after them because it's what they want, they've disrespected what the other person wants. It's not the same as a straight person pursuing another straight person, or a bi person pursuing a bi person etc. Also no I don't only want people I'm attracted to to give me attention, I'll talk to anyone, but if I'm approached by someone with a different sexual disposition to mine, they've disrespected what I want for their own selfish reasons As I said, no different from any other guys, I get tons of messages from guys who haven't read my profile and disrespect what I might want for their own selfish reasons, how they define their sexuality on their profile doesn't even come into it. " You're missing the point here. You gets lots of attention from guys because your profile states you want to meet men. If a self confessed straight guy messaged you with regards to fulfilling a desire of his then at the very least he's bi curious. But a truly straight guy would never contact you (or someone of their gender) with a view to anything happening, just like truly gay person would never approach a person of the opposite sex as it doesn't align with their disposition. If they didn't the profile then that's just a mistake so no biggy, but the majority of gay guys contacting straight males have it clearly stated on their profile 'looking for straight males to suck/fuck etc'; I've never seen a straight person's profile stating 'looking for gay people of my own gender to suck'. If there is please sign post me to their profile for evidence. Cheers | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. So you only want people who you're attracted to to give you attention? That's not how life works! I get lots of unwanted attention from all sorts of people, how they define their sexuality is the least of my concerns. I don't think what you're describing is a 'phenomenon' per se, it's just men being men going after what they want and why shouldn't they? I'm sure you do. Perhaps you wouldn't be so annoyed if you were getting more 'wanted' attention from females? You're argument is flawed. Sexuality is a fairly rigid trait. So if someone puts they're straight and a gay person goes after them because it's what they want, they've disrespected what the other person wants. It's not the same as a straight person pursuing another straight person, or a bi person pursuing a bi person etc. Also no I don't only want people I'm attracted to to give me attention, I'll talk to anyone, but if I'm approached by someone with a different sexual disposition to mine, they've disrespected what I want for their own selfish reasons As I said, no different from any other guys, I get tons of messages from guys who haven't read my profile and disrespect what I might want for their own selfish reasons, how they define their sexuality on their profile doesn't even come into it. You're missing the point here. You gets lots of attention from guys because your profile states you want to meet men. If a self confessed straight guy messaged you with regards to fulfilling a desire of his then at the very least he's bi curious. But a truly straight guy would never contact you (or someone of their gender) with a view to anything happening, just like truly gay person would never approach a person of the opposite sex as it doesn't align with their disposition. If they didn't the profile then that's just a mistake so no biggy, but the majority of gay guys contacting straight males have it clearly stated on their profile 'looking for straight males to suck/fuck etc'; I've never seen a straight person's profile stating 'looking for gay people of my own gender to suck'. If there is please sign post me to their profile for evidence. Cheers "Not sure why you're so threatened or upset OP as you're not being treated with any less disrespect than anyone else on here in fact you're probably getting off lightly! Learn to take a compliment and politely decline, or just block and delete and move on. *QUOTE* Lots of people disrespect people's wishes on here. Their profile says one thing (looking for, age range, etc) and people message anyway. Well said, this is my point exactly, it's nothing to do with sexuality, it's a general theme. OP is getting off lightly! If I told you about some of the messages I recieve.... Honestly | |||
"Because a lot of guys who claim to be straight on here really aren't. I don't agree, there's probably a few, but definitely not lots. Anyhow, your argument is weak as there's a vast amount of gay guys on here. I'm not saying all gay guys do it, most just go about there business respectful as any decent person, but there's still quite a few gay guys who persistently target straight guys which I just think is very odd. Chances are they'll blocked by most straight guys" That comes across as hilariously defensive! | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. So you only want people who you're attracted to to give you attention? That's not how life works! I get lots of unwanted attention from all sorts of people, how they define their sexuality is the least of my concerns. I don't think what you're describing is a 'phenomenon' per se, it's just men being men going after what they want and why shouldn't they? I'm sure you do. Perhaps you wouldn't be so annoyed if you were getting more 'wanted' attention from females? You're argument is flawed. Sexuality is a fairly rigid trait. So if someone puts they're straight and a gay person goes after them because it's what they want, they've disrespected what the other person wants. It's not the same as a straight person pursuing another straight person, or a bi person pursuing a bi person etc. Also no I don't only want people I'm attracted to to give me attention, I'll talk to anyone, but if I'm approached by someone with a different sexual disposition to mine, they've disrespected what I want for their own selfish reasons As I said, no different from any other guys, I get tons of messages from guys who haven't read my profile and disrespect what I might want for their own selfish reasons, how they define their sexuality on their profile doesn't even come into it. You're missing the point here. You gets lots of attention from guys because your profile states you want to meet men. If a self confessed straight guy messaged you with regards to fulfilling a desire of his then at the very least he's bi curious. But a truly straight guy would never contact you (or someone of their gender) with a view to anything happening, just like truly gay person would never approach a person of the opposite sex as it doesn't align with their disposition. If they didn't the profile then that's just a mistake so no biggy, but the majority of gay guys contacting straight males have it clearly stated on their profile 'looking for straight males to suck/fuck etc'; I've never seen a straight person's profile stating 'looking for gay people of my own gender to suck'. If there is please sign post me to their profile for evidence. Cheers
Not sure why you're so threatened or upset OP as you're not being treated with any less disrespect than anyone else on here in fact you're probably getting off lightly! Learn to take a compliment and politely decline, or just block and delete and move on.
*QUOTE* Lots of people disrespect people's wishes on here. Their profile says one thing (looking for, age range, etc) and people message anyway.
Well said, this is my point exactly, it's nothing to do with sexuality, it's a general theme. OP is getting off lightly! If I told you about some of the messages I recieve.... Honestly "If I felt threatened or upset by it then I'd just block messages from guys, but as I've already said I have guy friends on here, some straight and some gay. My gay friends would never cross that line for the fact they're only interested in other homosexual guys. Being contacted by a homosexual man looking for 'straight men only' isn't an insult or a complement, it's just barking up the wrong tree and wasting their time. Of course if the guy listed as 'straight' chooses to engage with them, then they're not straight, but at the very least bi curious. *QUOTE* Lots of people disrespect people's wishes on here. Their profile says one thing (looking for, age range, etc) and people message anyway. You proved my point by quoting this and agreeing in your last message 'Lot's of people disrespect others wishes on here', precisely my point, it's being disrespectful. That said, there's also lots of very respectful people on here, and it's only then I choose to engage with. | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. So you only want people who you're attracted to to give you attention? That's not how life works! I get lots of unwanted attention from all sorts of people, how they define their sexuality is the least of my concerns. I don't think what you're describing is a 'phenomenon' per se, it's just men being men going after what they want and why shouldn't they? I'm sure you do. Perhaps you wouldn't be so annoyed if you were getting more 'wanted' attention from females? You're argument is flawed. Sexuality is a fairly rigid trait. So if someone puts they're straight and a gay person goes after them because it's what they want, they've disrespected what the other person wants. It's not the same as a straight person pursuing another straight person, or a bi person pursuing a bi person etc. Also no I don't only want people I'm attracted to to give me attention, I'll talk to anyone, but if I'm approached by someone with a different sexual disposition to mine, they've disrespected what I want for their own selfish reasons As I said, no different from any other guys, I get tons of messages from guys who haven't read my profile and disrespect what I might want for their own selfish reasons, how they define their sexuality on their profile doesn't even come into it. You're missing the point here. You gets lots of attention from guys because your profile states you want to meet men. If a self confessed straight guy messaged you with regards to fulfilling a desire of his then at the very least he's bi curious. But a truly straight guy would never contact you (or someone of their gender) with a view to anything happening, just like truly gay person would never approach a person of the opposite sex as it doesn't align with their disposition. If they didn't the profile then that's just a mistake so no biggy, but the majority of gay guys contacting straight males have it clearly stated on their profile 'looking for straight males to suck/fuck etc'; I've never seen a straight person's profile stating 'looking for gay people of my own gender to suck'. If there is please sign post me to their profile for evidence. Cheers "With all due respect OP, the majority of messages I recieve are from guys who identify as straight on their profile. Bit more of a grey area being tvts but ultimately I do have a dick. Are you saying that I should not message guys who identify as straight on their profile unless they message me first? That's not a fair playing field at all | |||
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" With all due respect OP, the majority of messages I recieve are from guys who identify as straight on their profile. Bit more of a grey area being tvts but ultimately I do have a dick. Are you saying that I should not message guys who identify as straight on their profile unless they message me first? That's not a fair playing field at all " What I'm saying is if the guy is listed as straight and contacts you to pursue their needs then they're not straight. There's nothing wrong with that, but they've now become bi-curious and so should put it on their profile. Can I just ask whether you would go after a guy listed as straight on the off chance they might engage with you? | |||
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"I think the lessons here are that: 1. Many men don't have entirely honest profiles. Well if that's a surprise to you, you're too innocent for this place. 2. Some aren't quite as straight as they claim (sometimes to themselves). Which is no surprise given the stigma some people still attach to bi & gay men. I'm looking at you, OP. 3. Some straight men on here get freaked out by being chatted up by not straight men, despite having the (easily used) facility to prevent that happening. Given that most people don't even bother reading profiles before contacting others, why is it a surprise? Get over your homophobia, reply with a 'no thanks', or just block them, SET YOUR FUCKING FILTERS and move on. Oh, and happy Bi Visibility Day folks. " With all due respect, your profile is listed as straight yet your pictures would strongly suggest otherwise. That's not an attack I'm just stating facts. Could you explain how I'm being homophobic though? I'd hate to come across that way as I have lots of gay friends and hope I'm not being accidentally discriminatory in any way with them. | |||
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"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. So you only want people who you're attracted to to give you attention? That's not how life works! I get lots of unwanted attention from all sorts of people, how they define their sexuality is the least of my concerns. I don't think what you're describing is a 'phenomenon' per se, it's just men being men going after what they want and why shouldn't they? I'm sure you do. Perhaps you wouldn't be so annoyed if you were getting more 'wanted' attention from females? You're argument is flawed. Sexuality is a fairly rigid trait. So if someone puts they're straight and a gay person goes after them because it's what they want, they've disrespected what the other person wants. It's not the same as a straight person pursuing another straight person, or a bi person pursuing a bi person etc. Also no I don't only want people I'm attracted to to give me attention, I'll talk to anyone, but if I'm approached by someone with a different sexual disposition to mine, they've disrespected what I want for their own selfish reasons As I said, no different from any other guys, I get tons of messages from guys who haven't read my profile and disrespect what I might want for their own selfish reasons, how they define their sexuality on their profile doesn't even come into it. You're missing the point here. You gets lots of attention from guys because your profile states you want to meet men. If a self confessed straight guy messaged you with regards to fulfilling a desire of his then at the very least he's bi curious. But a truly straight guy would never contact you (or someone of their gender) with a view to anything happening, just like truly gay person would never approach a person of the opposite sex as it doesn't align with their disposition. If they didn't the profile then that's just a mistake so no biggy, but the majority of gay guys contacting straight males have it clearly stated on their profile 'looking for straight males to suck/fuck etc'; I've never seen a straight person's profile stating 'looking for gay people of my own gender to suck'. If there is please sign post me to their profile for evidence. Cheers
Not sure why you're so threatened or upset OP as you're not being treated with any less disrespect than anyone else on here in fact you're probably getting off lightly! Learn to take a compliment and politely decline, or just block and delete and move on.
*QUOTE* Lots of people disrespect people's wishes on here. Their profile says one thing (looking for, age range, etc) and people message anyway.
Well said, this is my point exactly, it's nothing to do with sexuality, it's a general theme. OP is getting off lightly! If I told you about some of the messages I recieve.... Honestly
If I felt threatened or upset by it then I'd just block messages from guys, but as I've already said I have guy friends on here, some straight and some gay.
My gay friends would never cross that line for the fact they're only interested in other homosexual guys.
Being contacted by a homosexual man looking for 'straight men only' isn't an insult or a complement, it's just barking up the wrong tree and wasting their time.
Of course if the guy listed as 'straight' chooses to engage with them, then they're not straight, but at the very least bi curious.
*QUOTE* Lots of people disrespect people's wishes on here. Their profile says one thing (looking for, age range, etc) and people message anyway.
You proved my point by quoting this and agreeing in your last message 'Lot's of people disrespect others wishes on here', precisely my point, it's being disrespectful. That said, there's also lots of very respectful people on here, and it's only then I choose to engage with.
"Sorry OP but I'm a getting a whiff of some sort of homophobia here by the way you phrase things. If not homophobia then perhaps a vulnerability you feel that you're trying to blame gay guys for which I find unfair. It would be like me opening a thread complaining of all the messages I get from guys outside my age range. It's the same level of disrespect you speak of but I don't blame people for trying their luck. I'm not threatened or offended by it in the slightest and most would agree 'no big deal' | |||
"a woman can never be 100% certain her man is straight." That's besides the point of this thread though. Yes I know there's a lot of guys in the closet, who are in heterosexual relationships, but if they're on this site as a single man looking for a man behind their female partners back, they'll list themselves as bi-curious or gay if that's their preferred disposition | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. " Jeez… in the time you’ve bitched and moaned about all the male attention you’re getting, you could’ve just set your filters and stopped men viewing your pics or contacting you! You still have t applied those filters, which begs the question why if you’re so offended. | |||
"I think the lessons here are that: 1. Many men don't have entirely honest profiles. Well if that's a surprise to you, you're too innocent for this place. 2. Some aren't quite as straight as they claim (sometimes to themselves). Which is no surprise given the stigma some people still attach to bi & gay men. I'm looking at you, OP. 3. Some straight men on here get freaked out by being chatted up by not straight men, despite having the (easily used) facility to prevent that happening. Given that most people don't even bother reading profiles before contacting others, why is it a surprise? Get over your homophobia, reply with a 'no thanks', or just block them, SET YOUR FUCKING FILTERS and move on. Oh, and happy Bi Visibility Day folks. " This | |||
" Sorry OP but I'm a getting a whiff of some sort of homophobia here by the way you phrase things. If not homophobia then perhaps a vulnerability you feel that you're trying to blame gay guys for which I find unfair. It would be like me opening a thread complaining of all the messages I get from guys outside my age range. It's the same level of disrespect you speak of but I don't blame people for trying their luck. I'm not threatened or offended by it in the slightest and most would agree 'no big deal' " Could you explain how I'm being homophobic here? You've obviously not read my messages in full if that's the conclusion you've arrived at. You're completely missing the point of my thread though, and I'm sorry if I've touched on a sensitive issue to you in such an upfront manner, but to throw accusations out like being homophobic to someone who's completely supportive of the gay, bisexual, and straight community without knowing me isn't fair | |||
" With all due respect, your profile is listed as straight yet your pictures would strongly suggest otherwise. That's not an attack I'm just stating facts. Could you explain how I'm being homophobic though? I'd hate to come across that way as I have lots of gay friends and hope I'm not being accidentally discriminatory in any way with them. " With all due respect, you completely ignore the points I make, and police me (with all due respect) for how I describe my sexuality? If you can't work out how you come across as homophobic, despite several posters pointing it out, it isn't because of a failure on anyone else's part. | |||
" Could you explain how I'm being homophobic here? You've obviously not read my messages in full if that's the conclusion you've arrived at. " If a whole bunch of posters tell you you're being homophobic, perhaps a better response might be to have a bit of a think about why we get that impression rather than to cross-examine them defensively about why that's the case and invite further self-justification from you. Learn to do your own emotional heavy lifting, and don't expect others to do it for you. Oh, and while my tick-box said straight, the first words in my profile said I'm bi. So that kind of kicks the moral high-ground (what little you had left) out from under you about reading profiles properly! | |||
"a woman can never be 100% certain her man is straight." This is a big statement and I would love to see you starting a separate thread, along with your reasons, because here people will hardly notice it. However if my woman felt like this, I would be very taken aback. Because I never had the slightest interest in getting aquainted with another man’s anatomy or body secretions or touch in any way or form. | |||
" With all due respect OP, the majority of messages I recieve are from guys who identify as straight on their profile. Bit more of a grey area being tvts but ultimately I do have a dick. Are you saying that I should not message guys who identify as straight on their profile unless they message me first? That's not a fair playing field at all What I'm saying is if the guy is listed as straight and contacts you to pursue their needs then they're not straight. There's nothing wrong with that, but they've now become bi-curious and so should put it on their profile. Can I just ask whether you would go after a guy listed as straight on the off chance they might engage with you? " First of all its not an 'off chance' quite the opposite. Secondly, it's unrealistic to expect someone to change their profile to bi or bicurious the minute they interact with me. And thirdly, I unashamedly go after what I want in life, I don't push or force it but I might bend the truth to get the job I want for example. Apoologies for suggesting homophobia here, you seem like a decent fella it's just that sometimes homophobia is subconscious and internalised, even amongst the gays themselves. It's not fair to expect gay guys not to desire you or persue you a little even, most men go after what they want in life regardless of sexuality, age, gender, income etc. So long as nobody is getting assaulted as far as I'm concerned its open season! | |||
"My mate is gay and only meets straight guys so that must tell.y something You mean he only meets guys who profess to be straight. Any man who likes any form of sexual contact with another man isn’t actually straight. No he meets literally any guy straight or gay. I think it’s more common than people think. There are men who will go to a gay nan for a BJ but would never do anything back " You’re missing the point. I don’t think any man can claim to be straight if they’re happy to be sucked off by a man for pleasure. Granted, some may do it for financial benefit | |||
"Why do lots of gay guys on here seek out straight guys when the odds are massively against them, when they have massively better odds with gay guys and would get a better experience anyway First of all I think it's open season for all people on here and anyone can message and go after whoever they like unless filters prevent this. I don't think the gay guys on here are doing anything different to any of the other guys on here. A big part of swinging is exploring sexuality and any straight person is entitled to explore without having to redefine themselves or make a big deal out of it. Then of course there's also 'fab straight' where more or less prison rules apply (!) as in, you're still straight so long as you're the one doing the fucking or getting your cock sucked. Society needs to wake up! The MAJORITY of men in the world are either gay, bi, bicurious or msm. MSM stands for men who have sex with men, the idea being that although straight, there is ease and comfort of getting the odd bj or fuck from someone of the same sex. These guys aren't really attracted to men, they are genuinely heterosexual by nature. Many will argue they are not straight if they do this but I disagree, the reasons for their behavior are complex but it's not to do with sexual chemistry or attraction to the same sex. Personally, I would so welcome this! It would be a real solution and all these droves of hungry men who want me to be like them and think my sexuality should be the same as theirs could go and find other men instead of me, other men whose sexuality and communication is more similar to them and they could have a blast together, arranging sex like they are calling for takeaway - everbody is happy and I am left in peace to look for people whose sexuality and interests are closer to mine! That's not how nature works love, sorry to disappoint" I will thank you not to patronise me and call me by pet names, I did not call you any. We are not formed by nature alone, civilisation is a big part of being human. Men having sex with men seems like an excellent option to me because for the most part it would be similar sexuality interacting in harmony, the more the better because it would reduce pressure being put on me to perform the "default" sexuality model which is based on male gaze and does not work for me and for many other women as well. I maintain that this solution has perfet logic to it and a real answer to the overwhelming majority of men using FS who want sex with strangers arranged in a very straightforward manner - if they had more sex with each other then everyone would be happier and less frustrated - or so it seems to me
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" We are not formed by nature alone, civilisation is a big part of being human. Men having sex with men seems like an excellent option to me because for the most part it would be similar sexuality interacting in harmony, the more the better because it would reduce pressure being put on me to perform the "default" sexuality model which is based on male gaze and does not work for me and for many other women as well. I maintain that this solution has perfet logic to it and a real answer to the overwhelming majority of men using FS who want sex with strangers arranged in a very straightforward manner - if they had more sex with each other then everyone would be happier and less frustrated - or so it seems to me
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"Op just do you be yourself and don't worry about things" Thanks for the advice, likewise | |||
"Op just do you be yourself and don't worry about things Thanks for the advice, likewise "Your welcome | |||
" As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? ---- But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? " I don't contact straight guys (unless they say they are looking for other males for a gang bang or similar) I don't want straight guys contacting me (with the similar exceptions). I'm against the dishonesty of fab-straight guys. | |||
" So you're suggesting it's a good idea for frustrated straight men to just go and have sex with gay men instead of dealing with female rejection?" I love that you think that straight men who have sex with gay men are straight! And there you go again, BTW. You view the world in non-overlapping sexualities, and that having sex with men is a failure to deal with being rejected by women. The world is a stranger and more complicated place than your black and white categorisation will allow for. Homophobia and a strong whiff of entitlement. | |||
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" So you're suggesting it's a good idea for frustrated straight men to just go and have sex with gay men instead of dealing with female rejection? I love that you think that straight men who have sex with gay men are straight! And there you go again, BTW. You view the world in non-overlapping sexualities, and that having sex with men is a failure to deal with being rejected by women. The world is a stranger and more complicated place than your black and white categorisation will allow for. Homophobia and a strong whiff of entitlement. " Homophobic Definitely not | |||
"A lot of guys are bi-curious but afraid to admit it in case in reduces their chances of meeting women or couples who don’t meet bi/bi-curious guys. The funniest thing is straight guy profiles with validations from other men who they clearly had sex with! People should just be honest. Shame they feel they can’t be!" This definitely | |||
" So you're suggesting it's a good idea for frustrated straight men to just go and have sex with gay men instead of dealing with female rejection? I love that you think that straight men who have sex with gay men are straight! And there you go again, BTW. You view the world in non-overlapping sexualities, and that having sex with men is a failure to deal with being rejected by women. The world is a stranger and more complicated place than your black and white categorisation will allow for. Homophobia and a strong whiff of entitlement. " Why are you so angry? All I've done is ask genuine questions? If I get regular messages by SOME gay guys who only want 'STRAIGHT COCK', who ate fine to message me asking if I want sucking etc, then am I committing a crime for finding this unusual and exploring why they do this? Again, I'm not blocking messages from guys as I have gay male and straight male friends on here, and the unwanted messages don't greatly annoy me, I just think it's pointless as I'm straight | |||
"Because a lot of guys who claim to be straight on here really aren't. " Yeah. I get Loads of messages from straight guys. | |||
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"Because a lot of guys who claim to be straight on here really aren't. Yeah. I get Loads of messages from straight guys. " But they're not straight are they if they're looking for cock... | |||
"Because a lot of guys who claim to be straight on here really aren't. Yeah. I get Loads of messages from straight guys. But they're not straight are they if they're looking for cock... " I agree. But if there profile says straight then you stop believing profiles. Thats the underlying issue here. | |||
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" So you're suggesting it's a good idea for frustrated straight men to just go and have sex with gay men instead of dealing with female rejection? I love that you think that straight men who have sex with gay men are straight! And there you go again, BTW. You view the world in non-overlapping sexualities, and that having sex with men is a failure to deal with being rejected by women. The world is a stranger and more complicated place than your black and white categorisation will allow for. Homophobia and a strong whiff of entitlement. Why are you so angry? All I've done is ask genuine questions? If I get regular messages by SOME gay guys who only want 'STRAIGHT COCK', who ate fine to message me asking if I want sucking etc, then am I committing a crime for finding this unusual and exploring why they do this? Again, I'm not blocking messages from guys as I have gay male and straight male friends on here, and the unwanted messages don't greatly annoy me, I just think it's pointless as I'm straight" What an entertaining rant
Best way around it is to block ALL males and message/establish contact with your male friends on here seeing as once that has been done they are free to contact you of their own free will | |||
" We are not formed by nature alone, civilisation is a big part of being human. Men having sex with men seems like an excellent option to me because for the most part it would be similar sexuality interacting in harmony, the more the better because it would reduce pressure being put on me to perform the "default" sexuality model which is based on male gaze and does not work for me and for many other women as well. I maintain that this solution has perfet logic to it and a real answer to the overwhelming majority of men using FS who want sex with strangers arranged in a very straightforward manner - if they had more sex with each other then everyone would be happier and less frustrated - or so it seems to me
So you're suggesting it's a good idea for frustrated straight men to just go and have sex with gay men instead of dealing with female rejection?"I just mean that it is ideal for people with a stranger orientated, very straightforward approach to interact with those who have similar approach - happy days. I do not use the word "straight" because I am not entirely heterosexual however I do not consider myself "askew" in any way so "straight" has no meaning to me. If people were genuinely interested in those with a different style of approach to sexuality than theirs they would make an effort to appeal to that different approach and seeing how so many do no make any effort and yet still complain how they are not getting "any replies" or "not meeting anyone" then it tells me that they are clearly not interested enough and maybe could benefit from exploring other options. Everyone keeps repeating how many single men use FS - well, that's a lot of people who could be approached instead of doing the same thing, going with only what works for you and expecting a different result. To me it seems a logical solution because humans are clever and adapt. Eventually something has got to give or else are we to continue in this absurdly mismatched way? Rhetorical question perhaps! | |||
" So you're suggesting it's a good idea for frustrated straight men to just go and have sex with gay men instead of dealing with female rejection? I love that you think that straight men who have sex with gay men are straight! And there you go again, BTW. You view the world in non-overlapping sexualities, and that having sex with men is a failure to deal with being rejected by women. The world is a stranger and more complicated place than your black and white categorisation will allow for. Homophobia and a strong whiff of entitlement. Why are you so angry? All I've done is ask genuine questions? If I get regular messages by SOME gay guys who only want 'STRAIGHT COCK', who ate fine to message me asking if I want sucking etc, then am I committing a crime for finding this unusual and exploring why they do this? Again, I'm not blocking messages from guys as I have gay male and straight male friends on here, and the unwanted messages don't greatly annoy me, I just think it's pointless as I'm straight What an entertaining rant
Best way around it is to block ALL males and message/establish contact with your male friends on here seeing as once that has been done they are free to contact you of their own free will"He doesn't want to bloke all males Why should he | |||
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"What about straight men contacting gays on here asking for sex or blow jobs ? Is that ok Wish I could show you my messages I get everyday from straight males It’s not just gays who are pests " No exactly its ALL MEN, the homophobic part is suggesting that the gay or secretly bi guys are the pests, they are no more pests than any other type of man and as it doesn't actually annoy or bother the OP supposedly I'm not sure what the point of this thread is here anymore. OP you asked why, do you have any conclusions yet? Honesty on fab has been discussed to death in these forums, bottom line is that we all have the right to reveal whatever parts of ourselves we wish to and to whomever we like, things aren't black and white, esp on fab. Accept the fact that many straight guys enjoy a posh wank every now and again without sexual attraction towards the same sex and that some of the guys that enjoy giving that will want to know if you're one of those straight guys from time to time. Can you accept this? | |||
" We are not formed by nature alone, civilisation is a big part of being human. Men having sex with men seems like an excellent option to me because for the most part it would be similar sexuality interacting in harmony, the more the better because it would reduce pressure being put on me to perform the "default" sexuality model which is based on male gaze and does not work for me and for many other women as well. I maintain that this solution has perfet logic to it and a real answer to the overwhelming majority of men using FS who want sex with strangers arranged in a very straightforward manner - if they had more sex with each other then everyone would be happier and less frustrated - or so it seems to me
So you're suggesting it's a good idea for frustrated straight men to just go and have sex with gay men instead of dealing with female rejection?
I just mean that it is ideal for people with a stranger orientated, very straightforward approach to interact with those who have similar approach - happy days. I do not use the word "straight" because I am not entirely heterosexual however I do not consider myself "askew" in any way so "straight" has no meaning to me.
If people were genuinely interested in those with a different style of approach to sexuality than theirs they would make an effort to appeal to that different approach and seeing how so many do no make any effort and yet still complain how they are not getting "any replies" or "not meeting anyone" then it tells me that they are clearly not interested enough and maybe could benefit from exploring other options. Everyone keeps repeating how many single men use FS - well, that's a lot of people who could be approached instead of doing the same thing, going with only what works for you and expecting a different result. To me it seems a logical solution because humans are clever and adapt. Eventually something has got to give or else are we to continue in this absurdly mismatched way? Rhetorical question perhaps!"You're suggesting an alternative paradigm to the one nearly all of us ascribe to. Nothing against what you've said, and each to their own. | |||
"What about straight men contacting gays on here asking for sex or blow jobs ? Is that ok Wish I could show you my messages I get everyday from straight males It’s not just gays who are pests " I could count on one hand the amount of messages I have had from gay men (Who are always polite I might add), but if I had 100 hands I still couldn't count the amount of messages I have had from "Straight" men, majority of which are poorly written and rude. | |||
"Straight men also contact me thinking I’ll say yeah to sex. It’s almost invariably no. Can’t be faffed. "It’s almost invariably no."? So you do say yes on occasion? Frank" Yeah, especially if they have a wife to share. | |||
"Straight men also contact me thinking I’ll say yeah to sex. It’s almost invariably no. Can’t be faffed. "It’s almost invariably no."? So you do say yes on occasion? Frank Yeah, especially if they have a wife to share. " | |||
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"OP Remove your cock pics Job done "This
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"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.." That's great to hear, I'm very happy for you. | |||
"I’m openly bi .. I’m as successful as I want to be on here, so I’m happy being myself. I think many hedge there bets and put straight in case it puts people off .. But it’s the same in life, everyone trying to be something they’re not on social media .. Owning houses or leasing cars to give a certain impression to people.. I feel lucky to be happy with myself and my life .. Very few seem to find that nowadays in this modern world.. As someone who is also openly bi, straight guys messaging me, shows that they probably haven't read my profile. And if they can't be honest about what they want, what else are they lying about? But why contact straight guys speculatively? You might as well just let them contact you or contact gay/bi guys right? You can block men from messaging you. End of story I'm well aware of that. We're just discussing the phenomenon of gay guys contacting straight guys on the off chance something might happen when there's no end of gay and bi guys. Im straight but have some gay friends on here so I don't want to block messages from guys. It just annoys me that I get unwanted gay male attention when my profile clearly says I'm straight. So you only want people who you're attracted to to give you attention? That's not how life works! I get lots of unwanted attention from all sorts of people, how they define their sexuality is the least of my concerns. I don't think what you're describing is a 'phenomenon' per se, it's just men being men going after what they want and why shouldn't they? I'm sure you do. Perhaps you wouldn't be so annoyed if you were getting more 'wanted' attention from females? You're argument is flawed. Sexuality is a fairly rigid trait. So if someone puts they're straight and a gay person goes after them because it's what they want, they've disrespected what the other person wants. It's not the same as a straight person pursuing another straight person, or a bi person pursuing a bi person etc. Also no I don't only want people I'm attracted to to give me attention, I'll talk to anyone, but if I'm approached by someone with a different sexual disposition to mine, they've disrespected what I want for their own selfish reasons As I said, no different from any other guys, I get tons of messages from guys who haven't read my profile and disrespect what I might want for their own selfish reasons, how they define their sexuality on their profile doesn't even come into it. You're missing the point here. You gets lots of attention from guys because your profile states you want to meet men. If a self confessed straight guy messaged you with regards to fulfilling a desire of his then at the very least he's bi curious. But a truly straight guy would never contact you (or someone of their gender) with a view to anything happening, just like truly gay person would never approach a person of the opposite sex as it doesn't align with their disposition. If they didn't the profile then that's just a mistake so no biggy, but the majority of gay guys contacting straight males have it clearly stated on their profile 'looking for straight males to suck/fuck etc'; I've never seen a straight person's profile stating 'looking for gay people of my own gender to suck'. If there is please sign post me to their profile for evidence. Cheers "Oh I have seen many apparent straight male profiles looking for someone to suck their cock, or looking for meets now with 'anyone' who's available | |||
