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"After being told by a health professional, a government report was not being published due to fears it will cause social unrest, just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here. We need to look after each other as the games we play have consequences. Stay safe peeps " OK... Can you share any of the salient facts? | |||
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"A quick search bring up results " Sure... Here's a thread idea... Search Google... | |||
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"Most people on here I would think are aware of Sti's and how they are spread. A lot get regularly checked as well. Why should anyone have to change preferences ?You can just as easily avoid the people whose preferences don't match yours.And look out for your own sexual health. " This is true, but many don’t take care or simply don’t care and still fab, the amount of pics you see with multiple partners in full intercourse with no condom is shocking, plus those who state they want no condoms | |||
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"Are you asking me to post graphs and charts, and open myself up to abuse because people don’t like the truth. " i wud think most people would be happy with a link to your data source..or the title of said research. | |||
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"After being told by a health professional, a government report was not being published due to fears it will cause social unrest, just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here. We need to look after each other as the games we play have consequences. Stay safe peeps " No. Information not being published and reported because it may piss a group of people off  never... Not in our free speech and free press society, surely???? | |||
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"After being told by a health professional, a government report was not being published due to fears it will cause social unrest, just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here. We need to look after each other as the games we play have consequences. Stay safe peeps " Are we talking about the super gonorrhea and super clam? I’m confused | |||
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"You are not my Mother! Nor are you a policeman or headmaster! So why do you think you should be directing others on what to do and how to think and behave??? Who put you in charge??? "No body has told anyone what to do !!! As predicted, an intelligent chat over an important matter has got the keyboard worries going | |||
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"After being told by a health professional, a government report was not being published due to fears it will cause social unrest, just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here. We need to look after each other as the games we play have consequences. Stay safe peeps No. Information not being published and reported because it may piss a group of people off never... Not in our free speech and free press society, surely???? "Yep spot on | |||
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"You are not my Mother! Nor are you a policeman or headmaster! So why do you think you should be directing others on what to do and how to think and behave??? Who put you in charge???
No body has told anyone what to do !!! As predicted, an intelligent chat over an important matter has got the keyboard worries going "intelligent chat ?? have i missed something ?? | |||
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"Most people on here I would think are aware of Sti's and how they are spread. A lot get regularly checked as well. Why should anyone have to change preferences ?You can just as easily avoid the people whose preferences don't match yours.And look out for your own sexual health. This is true, but many don’t take care or simply don’t care and still fab, the amount of pics you see with multiple partners in full intercourse with no condom is shocking, plus those who state they want no condoms " As I said avoid those people then if it's not what you want. They are grown adults who make their own choices and I don't see why people need to be shamed if that is their preference . | |||
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"You are not my Mother! Nor are you a policeman or headmaster! So why do you think you should be directing others on what to do and how to think and behave??? Who put you in charge???
No body has told anyone what to do !!! As predicted, an intelligent chat over an important matter has got the keyboard worries going "Well, if you could provide some proof, such as a link to the research, that would be good. | |||
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"After being told by a health professional, a government report was not being published due to fears it will cause social unrest, just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here. We need to look after each other as the games we play have consequences. Stay safe peeps " Well here's a positive for the single guys in Fab not getting any meets   | |||
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"After being told by a health professional, a government report was not being published due to fears it will cause social unrest, just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here. We need to look after each other as the games we play have consequences. Stay safe peeps " Are you "not" talking about BBC? "Social unrest" "quite damning of some groups" "change their preferences" suggests to me that your alluding to something you're not willing to say out loud. Is this a public announcement urging all women to immediately step away from the BBC to prevent their fannies bursting into flames? Nice try you sly old dog ;-p | |||
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"You are not my Mother! Nor are you a policeman or headmaster! So why do you think you should be directing others on what to do and how to think and behave??? Who put you in charge???
No body has told anyone what to do !!! As predicted, an intelligent chat over an important matter has got the keyboard worries going
Well, if you could provide some proof, such as a link to the research, that would be good."I’m not sure you can actually post links in the forums. | |||
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"You are not my Mother! Nor are you a policeman or headmaster! So why do you think you should be directing others on what to do and how to think and behave??? Who put you in charge???
No body has told anyone what to do !!! As predicted, an intelligent chat over an important matter has got the keyboard worries going
Well, if you could provide some proof, such as a link to the research, that would be good.
I’m not sure you can actually post links in the forums."I see links to music and porn all the time posted, why not something scientific that's not about squirting for a change ;-p | |||
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"A link, or at least a title of the report, would be useful otherwise we don't know if we're looking at the same thing. It's hard to have a discussion about something based on 'do a Google search'. That way we know we're discussing the same report. It's also common courtesy and good netiquette - even if the site won't allow a link, citing the name or source is perfectly do-able. On the wider point, yes, everyone should indeed look after and value their sexual health and get tested regularly." This | |||
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"A quick search bring up results Sure... Here's a thread idea... Search Google... " This is groubdbreaking research. I also found out that everything causes cancer , if you don’t believe me try this. 1/ think of something , anything, tap water , bottled water, too much wanking , Boris on a bike, petrol fumes etc 2/ go to google 3/ type that thing in 1/ then press space then type cancer and then click ‘feed me’ 3/ read the research results and be amazed at all the things that can kill you 4/ start a thread in a swinging site | |||
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"He's Bodie from CI5 (fucking hell I feel old knowing that!). He's privy to classified information "Ha ha he was one fecking cool dude, I used be his stunt double ha ha. Back when I had hair to brush ha ha | |||
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"He's Bodie from CI5 (fucking hell I feel old knowing that!). He's privy to classified information
Ha ha he was one fecking cool dude, I used be his stunt double ha ha. Back when I had hair to brush ha ha "Hahaha must admit The Professionals made my Saturday nights as a wee lad! Dogz  | |||
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"https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/914184/STI_NCSP_report_2019.pdf" Thanks for the link, only up to sections 3.2 but yet to be shocked. Not sure how this is ground breaking given its from 2019. I mean the drop in genital warts is unexpected if that is what you are referring to? I'll keep reading. | |||
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"He's Bodie from CI5 (fucking hell I feel old knowing that!). He's privy to classified information
Ha ha he was one fecking cool dude, I used be his stunt double ha ha. Back when I had hair to brush ha ha
Hahaha must admit The Professionals made my Saturday nights as a wee lad! Dogz "They was our Miami vice ha ha, any woman who fell for them, never made it. Ha ha | |||
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"Yes it’s 2019, that’s my point, the lasted report, has been suppressed " I doubt it these things don't get reported over night. Even for simple reports they can be 6-18 months after the data is collected. There is also the issue of robustness as data collected in 2020 would not be as robust as data from 2019. A worldwide pandemic limiting social contact and standard NHS testing would mean 2020 figures would need to be treated with caution. | |||
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"I see from the report Gonorrhoea has gone from 20 per 100,000 to 60 per 100,000. OMG!! That means, statistically, you would have to fuck 1,666 people to meet one person with the disease. Then what is the transmission rate? Best figure I can find is 1:3. So the probability of finding an infected person and catching it is around 1 in 5,000. That IS scary! Not correct ! If you sleep with 1 person unprotected, you are sleeping with there entire sexual past, let’s say 1 man has sex with 20 women unprotected, the next woman he sleeps with, she is sleeping with 21, and that soon mounts up. If you choose a group who are statistically more infected than other groups, then you! Are at a higher risk. AIDS spread world wide and was statistically attached to one group The odds for dying as a bicyclist are 1:3,825. Gonorrhoea can be cured by antibiotics, death cannot; but I am sure Qanon will tell you a spark plug enema will raise the dead if you ask. In the end it is individual choice but please let us keep these stds risks and threat in context. " | |||
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"Just to prove my point the 2019 data was only published September 2020 It says so on the document. So we would not be expecting 2020 data for at least another month in normal times." This | |||
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"I see from the report Gonorrhoea has gone from 20 per 100,000 to 60 per 100,000. OMG!! That means, statistically, you would have to fuck 1,666 people to meet one person with the disease. Then what is the transmission rate? Best figure I can find is 1:3. So the probability of finding an infected person and catching it is around 1 in 5,000. That IS scary! The odds for dying as a bicyclist are 1:3,825. Gonorrhoea can be cured by antibiotics, death cannot; but I am sure Qanon will tell you a spark plug enema will raise the dead if you ask. In the end it is individual choice but please let us keep these stds risks and threat in context. " No it's 50/50. They either have it or they don't.  | |||
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"https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/914184/STI_NCSP_report_2019.pdf" There's nothing especially surprising about that report. I doubt very much that it's a) been withheld or b) it's considered inflammatory to certain groups. It reports factual data which cannot be argued with. It's also data that's over 2yrs old so needs updating. | |||
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"Yes it’s 2019, that’s my point, the lasted report, has been suppressed " Either that or there was some more pressing epidemiological issue last year that they looked at instead, although I can’t for the life of me think what it might have been. | |||
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Chlamydia screening in pharmacies decreases by 7% in 2019 as STI rates rise
"Community pharmacies have carried out fewer Chlamydia tests even though overall testing through the National Chlamydia Screening Programme has increased."
Sexually transmitted disease
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" Not correct ! If you sleep with 1 person unprotected, you are sleeping with there entire sexual past, let’s say 1 man has sex with 20 women unprotected, the next woman he sleeps with, she is sleeping with 21, and that soon mounts up. If you choose a group who are statistically more infected than other groups, then you! Are at a higher risk. AIDS spread world wide and was statistically attached to one group " I am Correct. The "tree" of infection you speak of is already taken into account in the 60:100,000. I said "the chances of finding an infected person". That may of course be the first one you find or it may be the 99,939th. Sadly people hide their STIs - You hear "I have cancer/flu/ebola covid19/endometriosis/piles etc etc " all the time. No one ever says they have chlamydia because of the stigma attached to STIs. They are given an importance far greater than the threat they present. Anyone on here, condomers or not, should get regularly tested. | |||
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"Yes it’s 2019, that’s my point, the lasted report, has been suppressed Either that or there was some more pressing epidemiological issue last year that they looked at instead, although I can’t for the life of me think what it might have been. " The 2019 report was only published in September 2020. But I doubt that 2020 data will be available as soon because of all the caveats it will need due to the covid effect on sti transmission and testing. | |||
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"OP you sound like a crazy conspiracy theory type guy. I have no idea if you are but all this nudge nudge wink wink shit is boring. Say what you mean or say nothing at all." Yep just spit it out, otherwise this thread is utterly pointless | |||
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"OK about halfway through. Syphilis, gonorrhoea and chlamydia seem to be the most troublesome. But the genital warts and hiv infection rates show what impact a preventative medical intervention can provide. So a syphilis vaccine would be very useful. " Omg I’d get all the vaccines!! I have done all the ones possible including the HPV one Btw apparently Moderna is going through with a trial for HIV vaccination which is insanely amazing!!! I mean prep is already a good thing to help prevent infection but yeah and HIV vaccine that you can get would be mind blowing | |||
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"A quick search bring up results Sure... Here's a thread idea... Search Google... This is groubdbreaking research. I also found out that everything causes cancer , if you don’t believe me try this. 1/ think of something , anything, tap water , bottled water, too much wanking , Boris on a bike, petrol fumes etc 2/ go to google 3/ type that thing in 1/ then press space then type cancer and then click ‘feed me’ 3/ read the research results and be amazed at all the things that can kill you 4/ start a thread in a swinging site " | |||
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"It’s a government website you’ve linked ergo they’ve published the report… " This is an older report, the latest has apparently been suppressed, according to a doctor who worked on it | |||
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"It’s a government website you’ve linked ergo they’ve published the report… This is an older report, the latest has apparently been suppressed, according to a doctor who worked on it " Do you think it might have been held back for reasons such as the data crunchers have been redeployed onto other areas of epidemiology? I dunno, like the global virus pandemic thingy? | |||
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"And cited by the Terrace Higgins Trust: Rise in STIs underlines the need for urgent action 2 September 2020 Press release "We've already waited too long for the Government to take action on its promised national sexual health strategy." And many other publications...." There's a govt sexual health strategy?! That's going to be good. Test events will have an entirely new meaning. | |||
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"It’s a government website you’ve linked ergo they’ve published the report… This is an older report, the latest has apparently been suppressed, according to a doctor who worked on it Do you think it might have been held back for reasons such as the data crunchers have been redeployed onto other areas of epidemiology? I dunno, like the global Nope, this was a there job, she was a junior doctor working in sexual health when she was tasked to work on the report virus pandemic thingy? " | |||
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"It’s a government website you’ve linked ergo they’ve published the report… This is an older report, the latest has apparently been suppressed, according to a doctor who worked on it Do you think it might have been held back for reasons such as the data crunchers have been redeployed onto other areas of epidemiology? I dunno, like the global Nope, this was a there job, she was a junior doctor working in sexual health when she was tasked to work on the report virus pandemic thingy? " How is it suppressed? It's not past publication date yet | |||
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"It’s a government website you’ve linked ergo they’ve published the report… This is an older report, the latest has apparently been suppressed, according to a doctor who worked on it Do you think it might have been held back for reasons such as the data crunchers have been redeployed onto other areas of epidemiology? I dunno, like the global Nope, this was a there job, she was a junior doctor working in sexual health when she was tasked to work on the report virus pandemic thingy? " Junior doctors are highly unlikely to be privvy to what happens to a report they have contributed to (if indeed they have contributed to it). I find the whole story very unlikely. | |||
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"https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/914184/STI_NCSP_report_2019.pdf" which bits are damning? | |||
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"https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/914184/STI_NCSP_report_2019.pdfwhich bits are damning? " Read original post, that is the 2019 report not 2020 | |||
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"https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/914184/STI_NCSP_report_2019.pdfwhich bits are damning? Read original post, that is the 2019 report not 2020" The 2019 report was published in September 2020. Conversely we wouldn’t expect the 2020 data to be released until September 2021. #spoileralert - it’s only August And that’s not taking into account any delays as much of the NHS is on its knees right now | |||
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"https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/914184/STI_NCSP_report_2019.pdfwhich bits are damning? Look, I was simply told, by a doctor who worked in sexual health, that the statistics and part of the report she worked on was rejected, and she was told, they will not publish that as it is, it would cause uproar. Picking the bones out the the original post doesn't change what I was told by the doctor involved. Read original post, that is the 2019 report not 2020 The 2019 report was published in September 2020. Conversely we wouldn’t expect the 2020 data to be released until September 2021. #spoileralert - it’s only August And that’s not taking into account any delays as much of the NHS is on its knees right now" | |||
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"Oh for gods sake, I don’t work there, I didn’t work on the report!!!! I simply thought I’d pas on sexual health information for the greater good, next time is see her I’ll tell her to contact you personally. Hope that is to your satisfaction." But you have not passed on any information, just that a report (not yet due for publication) has been rumoured to be surpressed, due to reasons not shared. Its just not very useful and therefore does not really help the greater good. | |||
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"Oh for gods sake, I don’t work there, I didn’t work on the report!!!! I simply thought I’d pas on sexual health information for the greater good, next time is see her I’ll tell her to contact you personally. Hope that is to your satisfaction. But you have not passed on any information, just that a report (not yet due for publication) has been rumoured to be surpressed, due to reasons not shared. Its just not very useful and therefore does not really help the greater good. " How can I pass on published or unpublished information I don’t have, or will be suppressed, I have passed on the information I have via this feed, you clearly have not read the original post, I never claimed to have access to the report, just access to the person who worked on it. use it don’t use it, makes no difference to me, the information in the 2019 is clear | |||
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"https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/914184/STI_NCSP_report_2019.pdfwhich bits are damning? Look, I was simply told, by a doctor who worked in sexual health, that the statistics and part of the report she worked on was rejected, and she was told, they will not publish that as it is, it would cause uproar. Picking the bones out the the original post doesn't change what I was told by the doctor involved. Read original post, that is the 2019 report not 2020 The 2019 report was published in September 2020. Conversely we wouldn’t expect the 2020 data to be released until September 2021. #spoileralert - it’s only August And that’s not taking into account any delays as much of the NHS is on its knees right now" Picking the bones out? You mean pointing out that the data that has supposedly been suppressed isn’t actually due for release yet? Come back at this if the data still hasn’t been released this time next year and maybe you’ll get a different reception. Otherwise stop being so concerned with what everyone else does and simply practice safe sex as you feel is appropriate for your situation, just like the vast majority of people on here do. | |||
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"Most people on here I would think are aware of Sti's and how they are spread. A lot get regularly checked as well. Why should anyone have to change preferences ?You can just as easily avoid the people whose preferences don't match yours.And look out for your own sexual health. This is true, but many don’t take care or simply don’t care and still fab, the amount of pics you see with multiple partners in full intercourse with no condom is shocking, plus those who state they want no condoms " | |||
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"After being told by a health professional, a government report was not being published due to fears it will cause social unrest, just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here. We need to look after each other as the games we play have consequences. Stay safe peeps " Just out of interest, why was it feared to cause social unrest? STIs spread through sex shock?!? I think if anything governments of all colours have worked hard to raise awareness and ensure people make responsible decisions - I just can't see the benefit of *not* telling people... | |||
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"You are not my Mother! Nor are you a policeman or headmaster! So why do you think you should be directing others on what to do and how to think and behave??? Who put you in charge??? " | |||
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"https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/914184/STI_NCSP_report_2019.pdfwhich bits are damning? Read original post, that is the 2019 report not 2020" You said ... "just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups" Which I took as meaning you had done research. If we can't see the report you mean, how can we change our preferences? | |||
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"Oh for gods sake, I don’t work there, I didn’t work on the report!!!! I simply thought I’d pas on sexual health information for the greater good, next time is see her I’ll tell her to contact you personally. Hope that is to your satisfaction. But you have not passed on any information, just that a report (not yet due for publication) has been rumoured to be surpressed, due to reasons not shared. Its just not very useful and therefore does not really help the greater good. How can I pass on published or unpublished information I don’t have, or will be suppressed, I have passed on the information I have via this feed, you clearly have not read the original post, I never claimed to have access to the report, just access to the person who worked on it. use it don’t use it, makes no difference to me, the information in the 2019 is clear " And which but of the 2019 report is clear to you (as being damning of some groups) That was my original question!! | |||
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"Perhaps if we took it as a metaphor for one of those "now wash your hands" posters we see in public toilets? A reminder that STIs exist and we should be responsible isn't such a bad thing. " Wash your cock with alcohol gel after fucking?! Hmmmmmmm | |||
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"Perhaps if we took it as a metaphor for one of those "now wash your hands" posters we see in public toilets? A reminder that STIs exist and we should be responsible isn't such a bad thing. Wash your cock with alcohol gel after fucking?! Hmmmmmmm "*winces* | |||
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"In swingers chat, there is a thread running about bear back couples!!!!! This behaviour is ridiculous, but people are trying to attack me for showing concern for people who choose this lifestyle, tried to pass on things that could keep us all safe. Like getting a hot tip on a horse, any information regarding sexual health SHOULD be shared, if you can’t see this, then you are part of the problem. " From what I can see, no-one's attacking you, but everyone, including myself, would like to see this report and know who the 'certain groups' are. | |||
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"In swingers chat, there is a thread running about bear back couples!!!!! This behaviour is ridiculous, but people are trying to attack me for showing concern for people who choose this lifestyle, tried to pass on things that could keep us all safe. Like getting a hot tip on a horse, any information regarding sexual health SHOULD be shared, if you can’t see this, then you are part of the problem. From what I can see, no-one's attacking you, but everyone, including myself, would like to see this report and know who the 'certain groups' are. The 2019 lists the statistics of the groups, the tread will continue I’m told but with huge increase in 1 group, As the report is not yet published and or will be changed or suppressed, according to the doctor I spoke to, no proof can be provided. " | |||
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"Most people on here I would think are aware of Sti's and how they are spread. A lot get regularly checked as well. Why should anyone have to change preferences ?You can just as easily avoid the people whose preferences don't match yours.And look out for your own sexual health. This is true, but many don’t take care or simply don’t care and still fab, the amount of pics you see with multiple partners in full intercourse with no condom is shocking, plus those who state they want no condoms " that's there business though. Personally I dont use condoms for oral but do for anything else. When active I'm checked every 4 to 6 weeks. Including throat swabs. I think those that bareback are well aware of the risks..as I am of having multiple partners. | |||
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"In swingers chat, there is a thread running about bear back couples!!!!! This behaviour is ridiculous, but people are trying to attack me for showing concern for people who choose this lifestyle, tried to pass on things that could keep us all safe. Like getting a hot tip on a horse, any information regarding sexual health SHOULD be shared, if you can’t see this, then you are part of the problem. From what I can see, no-one's attacking you, but everyone, including myself, would like to see this report and know who the 'certain groups' are. The 2019 lists the statistics of the groups, the tread will continue I’m told but with huge increase in 1 group, As the report is not yet published and or will be changed or suppressed, according to the doctor I spoke to, no proof can be provided. " Can you name the doctor? Otherwise, sorry, but this is just hearsay. | |||
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"He's Bodie from CI5 (fucking hell I feel old knowing that!). He's privy to classified information
Ha ha he was one fecking cool dude, I used be his stunt double ha ha. Back when I had hair to brush ha ha "More like George cowley now dude lol | |||
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"Perhaps if we took it as a metaphor for one of those "now wash your hands" posters we see in public toilets? A reminder that STIs exist and we should be responsible isn't such a bad thing. Wash your cock with alcohol gel after fucking?! Hmmmmmmm "Don't wash it too fast.. | |||
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"Just out of interest, why was it feared to cause social unrest? STIs spread through sex shock?!?" And there I was thinking it was from toilet seats! | |||
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"Oh for gods sake, I don’t work there, I didn’t work on the report!!!! I simply thought I’d pas on sexual health information for the greater good, next time is see her I’ll tell her to contact you personally. Hope that is to your satisfaction. But you have not passed on any information, just that a report (not yet due for publication) has been rumoured to be surpressed, due to reasons not shared. Its just not very useful and therefore does not really help the greater good. How can I pass on published or unpublished information I don’t have, or will be suppressed, I have passed on the information I have via this feed, you clearly have not read the original post, I never claimed to have access to the report, just access to the person who worked on it. use it don’t use it, makes no difference to me, the information in the 2019 is clear " You can obviously but that also means that you shouldn't be passing on potentially misinformation which has come from a friend of a friend. As many have already pointed out it is unlikely to have been suppressed as the expected date for release has not yet passed and in will most likely be delayed due to that pandemic thing which dominated the news and our lives last year. I would have expected the data to show a significant drop in sti for 2020 as most people were not meeting one another can't see why that would result in suppression of a report. | |||
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"Pathetic !!!!!! If that’s aimed at me, which I’m assuming it was as it came straight after my post where we’d been conversing... seriously. You need to get a grip." You told me to stop !!!! Being so concerned about other people, who are you to tell me anything! This thread was was posted in good faith and aide site users. AIDS was and still is a killer !!! I seem to remember sexual health being everyone’s concern, has that just stopped now, and we all go on ignorant and selfish. Let’s just deny the lady 30 years happed.And help and advice on sexual health shouldn’t be dismissed because it doesn’t suit your lifestyle. The 2019 report says it all | |||
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"OP, look at the current antivax silliness. People hate being told what to do or how to behave. I know you meant it to be helpful. People need to do their own thing. You can comfort yourself with mental images of their wart-covered genitals in ten years time, if it helps!" I was eating my supper...! | |||
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"Pathetic !!!!!! If that’s aimed at me, which I’m assuming it was as it came straight after my post where we’d been conversing... seriously. You need to get a grip. You told me to stop !!!! Being so concerned about other people, who are you to tell me anything! This thread was was posted in good faith and aide site users. AIDS was and still is a killer !!! I seem to remember sexual health being everyone’s concern, has that just stopped now, and we all go on ignorant and selfish. Let’s just deny the lady 30 years happed.And help and advice on sexual health shouldn’t be dismissed because it doesn’t suit your lifestyle. The 2019 report says it all " I told you to stop being concerned with what other people do and concentrate on what you and your sexual partners do. Who are YOU to call me pathetic? You think it’s acceptable to start calling me names? | |||
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"op i think its ignorant of you to assume any thing of us as swingers ...most of us in the scene look after ourselves we know how to be tested regular we also have a free mind as to who we play with and how ... the best line of sexual health is to look after your self if you dont like bareback then best to assume everyone you meet is a barebacker so how to make yourself safe ...well as safe as can be because a condom will not stop most of the std and then theres oral and hands a other parts of the body .... the only safe sex is no sex ... and to those who are not getting what i mean lets say fore play bit of oral then a good feel and finger then with the same hands thats been touching you roll the condon on to be safe well sorry but if the woman has a std then so will you by just rolling the safe little jonny on your cock ...its not always about your cock the biggest speader of any virus/std is your hands" That's why you should always have one of those antibac alcohol dispensers at the end of your bed.... And sanitizer your hands for 20 seconds every 15 minutes.... You know if makes sense | |||
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"Are you asking me to post graphs and charts, and open myself up to abuse because people don’t like the truth. OP, you have my permission to reply to this with whatever the relevant information you have is; that you fear will lead to you recieving abuse. Actually, I'm pretty sure everyone in the thread would agree with me. Unless, and feel free to prove me wrong... unless you've just decided to interpret in a way that lets you attack a certain demographic. Allowing you to then complain about "censorship."" This. | |||
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"Are you asking me to post graphs and charts, and open myself up to abuse because people don’t like the truth. OP, you have my permission to reply to this with whatever the relevant information you have is; that you fear will lead to you recieving abuse. Actually, I'm pretty sure everyone in the thread would agree with me. Unless, and feel free to prove me wrong... unless you've just decided to interpret in a way that lets you attack a certain demographic. Allowing you to then complain about "censorship." This." This has a bit of a surreal feel about it I've seen a report that hasn't been published, that says stuff that's shocking. Can we see the report that's not been published ? They asked... No it's not been published so here's a completely different report that has been published and says completely different things that aren't shocking ... Ohh OK they replied what was the report that's not been published saying that is shocking? I can't tell you but I urge you to look for it... But it's not been published they cried... | |||
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"Are you asking me to post graphs and charts, and open myself up to abuse because people don’t like the truth. OP, you have my permission to reply to this with whatever the relevant information you have is; that you fear will lead to you recieving abuse. Actually, I'm pretty sure everyone in the thread would agree with me. Unless, and feel free to prove me wrong... unless you've just decided to interpret in a way that lets you attack a certain demographic. Allowing you to then complain about "censorship."" Read the 2019 report, following reports not yet available If you feel the statistics upset you, or you feel the statistics are singling out a certain demographic, then I’m very sorry, lock yourself away or go to your safe spaces where naughty facts can’t harm you, or feel free to start your own sexual health advice services. Once again, turning this on me solves nothing. You truly do not understand the original post. Be ignorant to facts, be ignorant to information or just be ignorant. | |||
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"Are you asking me to post graphs and charts, and open myself up to abuse because people don’t like the truth. OP, you have my permission to reply to this with whatever the relevant information you have is; that you fear will lead to you recieving abuse. Actually, I'm pretty sure everyone in the thread would agree with me. Unless, and feel free to prove me wrong... unless you've just decided to interpret in a way that lets you attack a certain demographic. Allowing you to then complain about "censorship." This. This has a bit of a surreal feel about it I've seen a report that hasn't been published, that says stuff that's shocking. Can we see the report that's not been published ? They asked... No it's not been published so here's a completely different report that has been published and says completely different things that aren't shocking ... Ohh OK they replied what was the report that's not been published saying that is shocking? I can't tell you but I urge you to look for it... But it's not been published they cried... " Once again, miss read and miss understood, I have never stated I’ve seen the report in question, read the thread before commenting | |||
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"Are you asking me to post graphs and charts, and open myself up to abuse because people don’t like the truth. OP, you have my permission to reply to this with whatever the relevant information you have is; that you fear will lead to you recieving abuse. Actually, I'm pretty sure everyone in the thread would agree with me. Unless, and feel free to prove me wrong... unless you've just decided to interpret in a way that lets you attack a certain demographic. Allowing you to then complain about "censorship." This. This has a bit of a surreal feel about it I've seen a report that hasn't been published, that says stuff that's shocking. Can we see the report that's not been published ? They asked... No it's not been published so here's a completely different report that has been published and says completely different things that aren't shocking ... Ohh OK they replied what was the report that's not been published saying that is shocking? I can't tell you but I urge you to look for it... But it's not been published they cried... Once again, miss read and miss understood, I have never stated I’ve seen the report in question, read the thread before commenting" With apologies op... | |||
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"This tread has now become opinionated, and just ridiculous For the final time. I got told by a friend and a doctor,that the work she was asked to do, the data she supplied regarding the current levels of STD/STI’s within communities allocated to her to investigate, can not, or will not be used, as it was will cause issues. End of," If only you'd have ended here and not added just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here. That was the (possibly unintentionally) inflammatory but youre disowning. | |||
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"Anyone can get a sti, duh, can't believe I'm typing this. Use protection and get tested regularly. Simples. " This | |||
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"Do you know what... I’ve deleted my post because it’s not worth the investment of my time or energy. Thankfully no one else seems to agree that these “communities” or “groups” or “demographics” as you call them are to blame. " Who said they was, you are all determined to find an issue with the OP, but sorry, facts are facts | |||
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"Are you asking me to post graphs and charts, and open myself up to abuse because people don’t like the truth. " Alas we only have your word that what you're not even saying is the truth. Now, I'll say what I've been told in the past when getting routine checks at the gum clinic. I've been asked if I engage in sexual activity with bi men. When answering yes I've been given the advice and choice to get the hep (can't remember which letter) jabs as "bi men tend to engage in more risky sex" Now I cannot say if this is true or not, or how dated that statistic may be. Did I have the jabs? Yes. The antibodies didn't remain in my system though, I was told the older you are the less effective the injections are. Has that stopped me having sexual contact with bi men? No. It hasn't changed my opinion one jot. I'm responsible for my own sexual health alongside whoever I may be shagging (ie making sure the condom is in date and fits correctly) I'll ask Are bi men who you're referring to? Also, are your facts actual facts that you've seen with your own eyes or facts you've been told about? | |||
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"Are you asking me to post graphs and charts, and open myself up to abuse because people don’t like the truth. Alas we only have your word that what you're not even saying is the truth. Now, I'll say what I've been told in the past when getting routine checks at the gum clinic. I've been asked if I engage in sexual activity with bi men. When answering yes I've been given the advice and choice to get the hep (can't remember which letter) jabs as "bi men tend to engage in more risky sex" Now I cannot say if this is true or not, or how dated that statistic may be. Did I have the jabs? Yes. The antibodies didn't remain in my system though, I was told the older you are the less effective the injections are. Has that stopped me having sexual contact with bi men? No. It hasn't changed my opinion one jot. I'm responsible for my own sexual health alongside whoever I may be shagging (ie making sure the condom is in date and fits correctly) I'll ask Are bi men who you're referring to? Also, are your facts actual facts that you've seen with your own eyes or facts you've been told about?" I’m not repeating myself again | |||
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"Do you know what... I’ve deleted my post because it’s not worth the investment of my time or energy. Thankfully no one else seems to agree that these “communities” or “groups” or “demographics” as you call them are to blame. Who said they was, you are all determined to find an issue with the OP, but sorry, facts are facts Except that you haven't provided any facts, despite repeated requests to do so." I’m not even going to answer that, if you can’t read or follow information, I have repeatedly answered | |||
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"Are you asking me to post graphs and charts, and open myself up to abuse because people don’t like the truth. Alas we only have your word that what you're not even saying is the truth. Now, I'll say what I've been told in the past when getting routine checks at the gum clinic. I've been asked if I engage in sexual activity with bi men. When answering yes I've been given the advice and choice to get the hep (can't remember which letter) jabs as "bi men tend to engage in more risky sex" Now I cannot say if this is true or not, or how dated that statistic may be. Did I have the jabs? Yes. The antibodies didn't remain in my system though, I was told the older you are the less effective the injections are. Has that stopped me having sexual contact with bi men? No. It hasn't changed my opinion one jot. I'm responsible for my own sexual health alongside whoever I may be shagging (ie making sure the condom is in date and fits correctly) I'll ask Are bi men who you're referring to? Also, are your facts actual facts that you've seen with your own eyes or facts you've been told about? I’m not repeating myself again " Well all you've basically said is you know something we don't, it's being hush hushed prevent possible prejudice but it exists and you ain't got the cahoonas to say it. You may aswell have just started a thread saying "wear a jonny peeps, you don't know who might have what" and we'd have said Yes... we know. | |||
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"Are you asking me to post graphs and charts, and open myself up to abuse because people don’t like the truth. Alas we only have your word that what you're not even saying is the truth. Now, I'll say what I've been told in the past when getting routine checks at the gum clinic. I've been asked if I engage in sexual activity with bi men. When answering yes I've been given the advice and choice to get the hep (can't remember which letter) jabs as "bi men tend to engage in more risky sex" Now I cannot say if this is true or not, or how dated that statistic may be. Did I have the jabs? Yes. The antibodies didn't remain in my system though, I was told the older you are the less effective the injections are. Has that stopped me having sexual contact with bi men? No. It hasn't changed my opinion one jot. I'm responsible for my own sexual health alongside whoever I may be shagging (ie making sure the condom is in date and fits correctly) I'll ask Are bi men who you're referring to? Also, are your facts actual facts that you've seen with your own eyes or facts you've been told about?" Did you get the boosters? Hep B is the main one for men who sleep with men. When I had my course it was day one, then a booster at year one and a booster at year five I believe. I just had my antibodies checked in June, six years after my last booster, and he said my antibodies were ten times the desired levels .
I was also offered Hep A a few years back, I only had one of those but he said my antibodies were high.
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"op i think its ignorant of you to assume any thing of us as swingers ...most of us in the scene look after ourselves we know how to be tested regular we also have a free mind as to who we play with and how ... the best line of sexual health is to look after your self if you dont like bareback then best to assume everyone you meet is a barebacker so how to make yourself safe ...well as safe as can be because a condom will not stop most of the std and then theres oral and hands a other parts of the body .... the only safe sex is no sex ... and to those who are not getting what i mean lets say fore play bit of oral then a good feel and finger then with the same hands thats been touching you roll the condon on to be safe well sorry but if the woman has a std then so will you by just rolling the safe little jonny on your cock ...its not always about your cock the biggest speader of any virus/std is your hands" This is utter bollocks. Stis are most commonly transmitted by body fluids e.g. semen being in contact with mucuous membranes - rectum, vagina, throat etc. Not by fingers. It can happen and some e.g. HPV, warts can transmit via skin contact but chlamydia, Gonnorhea, HIV etc are usually transmitted by body fluids and mucuous membrane contact. Condoms are a very effective way of preventing Stis. | |||
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"Do you know what... I’ve deleted my post because it’s not worth the investment of my time or energy. Thankfully no one else seems to agree that these “communities” or “groups” or “demographics” as you call them are to blame. Who said they was, you are all determined to find an issue with the OP, but sorry, facts are facts Except that you haven't provided any facts, despite repeated requests to do so. I’m not even going to answer that, if you can’t read or follow information, I have repeatedly answered You. Haven't. Provided. Any. Information. All you've given is hearsay. Can you understand that?" The existing data is provided in the 2019 report, take it you not read it | |||
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"Do you know what... I’ve deleted my post because it’s not worth the investment of my time or energy. Thankfully no one else seems to agree that these “communities” or “groups” or “demographics” as you call them are to blame. Who said they was, you are all determined to find an issue with the OP, but sorry, facts are facts Except that you haven't provided any facts, despite repeated requests to do so. I’m not even going to answer that, if you can’t read or follow information, I have repeatedly answered You. Haven't. Provided. Any. Information. All you've given is hearsay. Can you understand that? The existing data is provided in the 2019 report, take it you not read it " I posted a link to that report, so yes I have provided exciting data. READ !!! | |||
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"In swingers chat, there is a thread running about bear back couples!!!!! This behaviour is ridiculous, but people are trying to attack me for showing concern for people who choose this lifestyle, tried to pass on things that could keep us all safe. Like getting a hot tip on a horse, any information regarding sexual health SHOULD be shared, if you can’t see this, then you are part of the problem. " OP, no offence intended but you haven't really passed on anything. You've just alluded to something being suppressed about certain groups while saying you don't know what the information is. That's not really particularly helpful to anybody. | |||
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"Pathetic !!!!!! If that’s aimed at me, which I’m assuming it was as it came straight after my post where we’d been conversing... seriously. You need to get a grip. You told me to stop !!!! Being so concerned about other people, who are you to tell me anything! This thread was was posted in good faith and aide site users. AIDS was and still is a killer !!! I seem to remember sexual health being everyone’s concern, has that just stopped now, and we all go on ignorant and selfish. Let’s just deny the lady 30 years happed.And help and advice on sexual health shouldn’t be dismissed because it doesn’t suit your lifestyle. The 2019 report says it all " HIV is now an incredibly manageable health condition and it's incredibly rare for it to progress to AIDS. These days, that is usually a result of living in a poverty stricken country without access to appropriate healthcare or rejection of treatment. | |||
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"Pathetic !!!!!! If that’s aimed at me, which I’m assuming it was as it came straight after my post where we’d been conversing... seriously. You need to get a grip. You told me to stop !!!! Being so concerned about other people, who are you to tell me anything! This thread was was posted in good faith and aide site users. AIDS was and still is a killer !!! I seem to remember sexual health being everyone’s concern, has that just stopped now, and we all go on ignorant and selfish. Let’s just deny the lady 30 years happed.And help and advice on sexual health shouldn’t be dismissed because it doesn’t suit your lifestyle. The 2019 report says it all HIV is now an incredibly manageable health condition and it's incredibly rare for it to progress to AIDS. These days, that is usually a result of living in a poverty stricken country without access to appropriate healthcare or rejection of treatment. " While you are right that it’s a manageable condition, you are mistaken in thinking that it is ‘incredibly rare’ for the infection to progress to the late stage before diagnosis, I’m afraid. 29% of 19-24 year olds are diagnosed in the late stage, over 50% of folks are in their 30s and 40s, while the percentage of late stage diagnoses rises to 60% in people aged 59 and above. (2019 UK stats) | |||
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"Pathetic !!!!!! If that’s aimed at me, which I’m assuming it was as it came straight after my post where we’d been conversing... seriously. You need to get a grip. You told me to stop !!!! Being so concerned about other people, who are you to tell me anything! This thread was was posted in good faith and aide site users. AIDS was and still is a killer !!! I seem to remember sexual health being everyone’s concern, has that just stopped now, and we all go on ignorant and selfish. Let’s just deny the lady 30 years happed.And help and advice on sexual health shouldn’t be dismissed because it doesn’t suit your lifestyle. The 2019 report says it all HIV is now an incredibly manageable health condition and it's incredibly rare for it to progress to AIDS. These days, that is usually a result of living in a poverty stricken country without access to appropriate healthcare or rejection of treatment. While you are right that it’s a manageable condition, you are mistaken in thinking that it is ‘incredibly rare’ for the infection to progress to the late stage before diagnosis, I’m afraid. 29% of 19-24 year olds are diagnosed in the late stage, over 50% of folks are in their 30s and 40s, while the percentage of late stage diagnoses rises to 60% in people aged 59 and above. (2019 UK stats) " Late HIV diagnosis and AIDS are not the same thing, though being diagnosed late does increase your risk of developing AIDS. | |||
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"Pathetic !!!!!! If that’s aimed at me, which I’m assuming it was as it came straight after my post where we’d been conversing... seriously. You need to get a grip. You told me to stop !!!! Being so concerned about other people, who are you to tell me anything! This thread was was posted in good faith and aide site users. AIDS was and still is a killer !!! I seem to remember sexual health being everyone’s concern, has that just stopped now, and we all go on ignorant and selfish. Let’s just deny the lady 30 years happed.And help and advice on sexual health shouldn’t be dismissed because it doesn’t suit your lifestyle. The 2019 report says it all HIV is now an incredibly manageable health condition and it's incredibly rare for it to progress to AIDS. These days, that is usually a result of living in a poverty stricken country without access to appropriate healthcare or rejection of treatment. While you are right that it’s a manageable condition, you are mistaken in thinking that it is ‘incredibly rare’ for the infection to progress to the late stage before diagnosis, I’m afraid. 29% of 19-24 year olds are diagnosed in the late stage, over 50% of folks are in their 30s and 40s, while the percentage of late stage diagnoses rises to 60% in people aged 59 and above. (2019 UK stats) Late HIV diagnosis and AIDS are not the same thing, though being diagnosed late does increase your risk of developing AIDS. " Late stage HIV is the same thing as AIDS. The former is used more commonly by those in the field of medicine than the latter, due largely to the stigma snd association with death. A patient is late stage when their CD4 count is below 200 at diagnosis (as AIDS was also classified originally). You’re welcome. | |||
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"Oh for gods sake, I don’t work there, I didn’t work on the report!!!! I simply thought I’d pas on sexual health information for the greater good, next time is see her I’ll tell her to contact you personally. Hope that is to your satisfaction." Don't get the hump just because we aren't all as gullible as you | |||
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"Is there a summary of this thread available?" Op claims a report is being suppressed. Also says that he’s done research and certain groups should be avoided. Replies point out latest report was sept 2020 so no evidence of suppression (tbf that probably means 2021 draft has been produced so could be in suppressed) Replies also seek to understand what groups he is talking about as this could be seen as a dog whistle. Op skirts this question. Typically by saying the report isn’t released so how would he know. We get back on the suppression question Honestly, this thread is more likely to damage my health than an STI  | |||
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"For the final time. I got told by a friend and a doctor,that the work she was asked to do, the data she supplied regarding the current levels of STD/STI’s within communities allocated to her to investigate, can not, or will not be used, as it was will cause issues. End of," But it wasn’t. You also said [after being told the above]”…just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here.” That’s what people are seeing as a dog whistle. You’ve yet to explain what you meant by this. You revert back to “I was only talking about the report being suppressed”. Can you clarify what you meant by that but I’ve quoted ? | |||
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"For the final time. I got told by a friend and a doctor,that the work she was asked to do, the data she supplied regarding the current levels of STD/STI’s within communities allocated to her to investigate, can not, or will not be used, as it was will cause issues. End of, But it wasn’t. You also said [after being told the above]”…just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here.” That’s what people are seeing as a dog whistle. You’ve yet to explain what you meant by this. You revert back to “I was only talking about the report being suppressed”. Can you clarify what you meant by that but I’ve quoted ? " This. As as repeatedly saying the information about which groups is in the 2019 report... I’ve read the report. I know which groups it is talking about. What we are waiting for is clarification of how the OP thinks we need to change our preferences in relation to these groups... | |||
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"For the final time. I got told by a friend and a doctor,that the work she was asked to do, the data she supplied regarding the current levels of STD/STI’s within communities allocated to her to investigate, can not, or will not be used, as it was will cause issues. End of, But it wasn’t. You also said [after being told the above]”…just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here.” That’s what people are seeing as a dog whistle. You’ve yet to explain what you meant by this. You revert back to “I was only talking about the report being suppressed”. Can you clarify what you meant by that but I’ve quoted ? After being told this,I looked on line and found a report from 2019, it clearly shows that the black, Caribbean and black African, seem to have the highest number of reported STDs, according to that report. She also told me due to stigma and culture reasons, the BAME community isn’t getting treated and that the infection rate was soaring. She supplied this data to her superiors, who then told her that, the statistics were very alarming, but the data would not be used, due to fears of NHS being called racist. I an era of cancel culture and anyone and everyone being called a racist for simply having difference of opinion from the far left. It would appear that some health professionals and management would rather suppress the information rather than be subject to abuse and loose there jobs. This thread proves why they have choose to do that. No doubt I will be on standby for allegations of being racist myself. I’m white, with shaved head, and have dared mention BEAM in a negative way, so clearly I must be racist. For the record I am not, and have dated a beautiful black lady in passed. Anyone send me one message of abuse or I deem it to be abusive, will be reported to admit. Be grown up and put an end to this. " | |||
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"Surelybif a report is not published it wont be on google. If it is on google then it has been published. Not unusual for medical journals/reports not to be reported in the media" For gods sake !!!! It’s not on google,,, the last one is !!!! | |||
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"But the previous report, from 2019, concluded that the BAME community had higher rates of STIs. I fail to see why coming to the same conclusion in 2020 or 2021 would be controversial? For whatever reason, it's a fact. Ditto for men who have sex with men (they have higher rates of STIs - reasons varied). There's lots of public health epidemiology stats that show certain demographics are more likely to have XYZ medical or social problem. This is not new information by any means." This
Plus the 2019 report actually indicates that the fastest growing increase within the BAME community is actually amongst the Asian Community. Further indicating the fact that higher rates in the black community is an established medical fact and highly unliked to cause controversy. | |||
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"But the previous report, from 2019, concluded that the BAME community had higher rates of STIs. I fail to see why coming to the same conclusion in 2020 or 2021 would be controversial? For whatever reason, it's a fact. Ditto for men who have sex with men (they have higher rates of STIs - reasons varied). There's lots of public health epidemiology stats that show certain demographics are more likely to have XYZ medical or social problem. This is not new information by any means. This
Plus the 2019 report actually indicates that the fastest growing increase within the BAME community is actually amongst the Asian Community. Further indicating the fact that higher rates in the black community is an established medical fact and highly unliked to cause controversy. "Once again I shall repeat myself, she told me it has soared,,,, and the new figures are very alarming. And do take in mind the 300/800 people a day landing on the beaches. | |||
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"After being told by a health professional, a government report was not being published due to fears it will cause social unrest, just a quick bit of research is quite damming of some groups. Some people may want to change there preferences in here. " Which was met with " OK... Can you share any of the salient facts? " And you replied with "A quick search bring up results " And now you're saying " For gods sake !!!! It’s not on google" So there's report that's being suppressed because it's "quite damming of some groups" but you won't say which groups, instead you tell people to google it, when they google it and can't find it, it's because "For gods sake !!!! It’s not on google", so then people ask you to clarify seeing as it's not on google, you then won't clarify, instead tell people to google it and around and round we go. Have you ever considered a career in politics? | |||
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"But the previous report, from 2019, concluded that the BAME community had higher rates of STIs. I fail to see why coming to the same conclusion in 2020 or 2021 would be controversial? For whatever reason, it's a fact. Ditto for men who have sex with men (they have higher rates of STIs - reasons varied). There's lots of public health epidemiology stats that show certain demographics are more likely to have XYZ medical or social problem. This is not new information by any means. This
Plus the 2019 report actually indicates that the fastest growing increase within the BAME community is actually amongst the Asian Community. Further indicating the fact that higher rates in the black community is an established medical fact and highly unliked to cause controversy.
Once again I shall repeat myself, she told me it has soared,,,, and the new figures are very alarming. And do take in mind the 300/800 people a day landing on the beaches. "Are the people landing on the beaches riddled with syphilis?! Is that why STI rates have increased in some communities? At least the underlying "ideas" are being brought out, anyway..... | |||
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"But the previous report, from 2019, concluded that the BAME community had higher rates of STIs. I fail to see why coming to the same conclusion in 2020 or 2021 would be controversial? For whatever reason, it's a fact. Ditto for men who have sex with men (they have higher rates of STIs - reasons varied). There's lots of public health epidemiology stats that show certain demographics are more likely to have XYZ medical or social problem. This is not new information by any means. This
Plus the 2019 report actually indicates that the fastest growing increase within the BAME community is actually amongst the Asian Community. Further indicating the fact that higher rates in the black community is an established medical fact and highly unliked to cause controversy.
Once again I shall repeat myself, she told me it has soared,,,, and the new figures are very alarming. And do take in mind the 300/800 people a day landing on the beaches. "And finally we get to the real point you are trying to make | |||
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"But the previous report, from 2019, concluded that the BAME community had higher rates of STIs. I fail to see why coming to the same conclusion in 2020 or 2021 would be controversial? For whatever reason, it's a fact. Ditto for men who have sex with men (they have higher rates of STIs - reasons varied). There's lots of public health epidemiology stats that show certain demographics are more likely to have XYZ medical or social problem. This is not new information by any means. This
Plus the 2019 report actually indicates that the fastest growing increase within the BAME community is actually amongst the Asian Community. Further indicating the fact that higher rates in the black community is an established medical fact and highly unliked to cause controversy.
Once again I shall repeat myself, she told me it has soared,,,, and the new figures are very alarming. And do take in mind the 300/800 people a day landing on the beaches. "Aww mate you were hanging in there until that last bit. | |||
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"But the previous report, from 2019, concluded that the BAME community had higher rates of STIs. I fail to see why coming to the same conclusion in 2020 or 2021 would be controversial? For whatever reason, it's a fact. Ditto for men who have sex with men (they have higher rates of STIs - reasons varied). There's lots of public health epidemiology stats that show certain demographics are more likely to have XYZ medical or social problem. This is not new information by any means. This
Plus the 2019 report actually indicates that the fastest growing increase within the BAME community is actually amongst the Asian Community. Further indicating the fact that higher rates in the black community is an established medical fact and highly unliked to cause controversy.
Once again I shall repeat myself, she told me it has soared,,,, and the new figures are very alarming. And do take in mind the 300/800 people a day landing on the beaches.
And finally we get to the real point you are trying to make "Oh here we go, you now know my mind and all about me, a complete and typical reaction | |||
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"This thread will probably be taken down, when really the fab community, should share information and help each other. " Depends on your source and where you've got it from...... We aren't idiot's  | |||
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