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"So own up guys who’s done it who loves it!? Who’s got the girls to recommend! " Have you OP? 
I’m a TS and have had quite my fair share of guys who never done anything with a girl like me but were attracted to me
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"I would have always said no but as I get older I find I’m tempted. Some are unbelievably hot " Well if you get the right condition with the right girl who you fancy, why not? Don’t over think it Also make sure you treat girls with respect as that’s very important x x  | |||
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"So own up guys who’s done it who loves it!? Who’s got the girls to recommend! Have you OP?
I’m a TS and have had quite my fair share of guys who never done anything with a girl like me but were attracted to me
so I made sure they had a good experience from it "You are quite stunning x | |||
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"So own up guys who’s done it who loves it!? Who’s got the girls to recommend! " Thats a bit like asking what tea do you drink 
Its a question of personal taste and attraction the same as with all girls.
My sexual connection came out of an intense mental connection.
Open your mind first, your mouth second and your trousers last
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"own up guys ?? like its a sin ??? lets be clear here there is nothing wrong with going with anybody sexually as long as consenting adults man woman tv trans gender fluid /neutral sex is a passion as long as you enjoy then go for it ..so nothing to own up to i guess ... we are all one thing at the end of the day human own up seems to suggest theres shame involved ..well thats how i see it .. all i see is beautiful people having fun " This 100%  | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting." so by them being who they want to be is not being true ? i find your remark a little distasteful as you dont go with them maybe dont reply | |||
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"I would have always said no but as I get older I find I’m tempted. Some are unbelievably hot Well if you get the right condition with the right girl who you fancy, why not? Don’t over think it Also make sure you treat girls with respect as that’s very important x x ". "Respect" should be the byword for this thread. | |||
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"So own up guys who’s done it who loves it!? Who’s got the girls to recommend! Thats a bit like asking what tea do you drink
Its a question of personal taste and attraction the same as with all girls.
My sexual connection came out of an intense mental connection.
Open your mind first, your mouth second and your trousers last
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"Own up sorry op we’re not some dirty little secret we are human beings and deserve to be treated as such " | |||
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"I would have always said no but as I get older I find I’m tempted. Some are unbelievably hot Well if you get the right condition with the right girl who you fancy, why not? Don’t over think it Also make sure you treat girls with respect as that’s very important x x
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"Respect" should be the byword for this thread."'Respect' should be standard for all other swingers and partners. Providing discretion, not hassling people before or after meets, etc is all well below the minimum level of respect that we all show each other. Not fancying someone is going to be commonplace, as most people aren't compatible with most others. Needing to get a rise out of others, because you don't think that they are good enough, because you don't like someone in a wig or makeup etc, is pathetically tragic. There's a growing number of places where it's increasingly unsafe to be LGBT and where their governments, who should hold the protection and safety of the public that they serve, as their highest priority. Tinpot dictators should have had their day. That some people in a more liberal country want to be comfortable themselves but also not want to share that with equality, is an evident failure of humanity. Fill your boots of the good stuff | |||
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"own up guys ?? like its a sin ??? lets be clear here there is nothing wrong with going with anybody sexually as long as consenting adults man woman tv trans gender fluid /neutral sex is a passion as long as you enjoy then go for it ..so nothing to own up to i guess ... we are all one thing at the end of the day human own up seems to suggest theres shame involved ..well thats how i see it .. all i see is beautiful people having fun " In defence to OP I don’t think he meant it in a malicious way, or at least I hope. It goes without saying tho that we still live in a world where “mates” make people feel bad if they say that they had a relationship or even slept with trans girls. So I see why the “own up” remark, I’ve been with guys who when making conversation, told they’d not bring it up with friends and it’d stay private. And it’s to due with social pressure because dickheads are everywhere and then they would be made fun of by others saying “you are gay, you like dick, you love trannies” etc and that shit is like bullying. Because if it was normalised, I know none would care and none would feel the pressure of people saying certain mean things. And just to clarify, the whole if you go with a trans girl “you must like dick” I have my “boy” part always well hidden and no guy has ever asked to touch or feel (in person - some ask via message and I don’t meet those who want that kind of experience and redirect them to other girls who are comfortable with that) Until I’ll finally get rid of it and it won’t be a problem anymore. | |||
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"own up guys ?? like its a sin ??? lets be clear here there is nothing wrong with going with anybody sexually as long as consenting adults man woman tv trans gender fluid /neutral sex is a passion as long as you enjoy then go for it ..so nothing to own up to i guess ... we are all one thing at the end of the day human own up seems to suggest theres shame involved ..well thats how i see it .. all i see is beautiful people having fun In defence to OP I don’t think he meant it in a malicious way, or at least I hope. It goes without saying tho that we still live in a world where “mates” make people feel bad if they say that they had a relationship or even slept with trans girls. So I see why the “own up” remark, I’ve been with guys who when making conversation, told they’d not bring it up with friends and it’d stay private. And it’s to due with social pressure because dickheads are everywhere and then they would be made fun of by others saying “you are gay, you like dick, you love trannies” etc and that shit is like bullying. Because if it was normalised, I know none would care and none would feel the pressure of people saying certain mean things. And just to clarify, the whole if you go with a trans girl “you must like dick” I have my “boy” part always well hidden and no guy has ever asked to touch or feel (in person - some ask via message and I don’t meet those who want that kind of experience and redirect them to other girls who are comfortable with that) Until I’ll finally get rid of it and it won’t be a problem anymore. "I want to clarify there’s nothing wrong with being gay. But having people accuse a person who identifies as straight and IS attracted to women, of being gay , because they might have slept with a trans girl. Is wrong on so many levels!!! And it does mess up with people’s heads and that could result in them hurting themselves or even girls like us in the process…. | |||
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"own up guys ?? like its a sin ??? lets be clear here there is nothing wrong with going with anybody sexually as long as consenting adults man woman tv trans gender fluid /neutral sex is a passion as long as you enjoy then go for it ..so nothing to own up to i guess ... we are all one thing at the end of the day human own up seems to suggest theres shame involved ..well thats how i see it .. all i see is beautiful people having fun In defence to OP I don’t think he meant it in a malicious way, or at least I hope. It goes without saying tho that we still live in a world where “mates” make people feel bad if they say that they had a relationship or even slept with trans girls. So I see why the “own up” remark, I’ve been with guys who when making conversation, told they’d not bring it up with friends and it’d stay private. And it’s to due with social pressure because dickheads are everywhere and then they would be made fun of by others saying “you are gay, you like dick, you love trannies” etc and that shit is like bullying. Because if it was normalised, I know none would care and none would feel the pressure of people saying certain mean things. And just to clarify, the whole if you go with a trans girl “you must like dick” I have my “boy” part always well hidden and no guy has ever asked to touch or feel (in person - some ask via message and I don’t meet those who want that kind of experience and redirect them to other girls who are comfortable with that) Until I’ll finally get rid of it and it won’t be a problem anymore. "Same | |||
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"I guess I used the wrong terminology in my post..,, I also like to revive it for a tv/ts" Lack of thought, maybe sexual excitement  | |||
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if I can say 
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"own up guys ?? like its a sin ??? lets be clear here there is nothing wrong with going with anybody sexually as long as consenting adults man woman tv trans gender fluid /neutral sex is a passion as long as you enjoy then go for it ..so nothing to own up to i guess ... we are all one thing at the end of the day human own up seems to suggest theres shame involved ..well thats how i see it .. all i see is beautiful people having fun In defence to OP I don’t think he meant it in a malicious way, or at least I hope. It goes without saying tho that we still live in a world where “mates” make people feel bad if they say that they had a relationship or even slept with trans girls. So I see why the “own up” remark, I’ve been with guys who when making conversation, told they’d not bring it up with friends and it’d stay private. And it’s to due with social pressure because dickheads are everywhere and then they would be made fun of by others saying “you are gay, you like dick, you love trannies” etc and that shit is like bullying. Because if it was normalised, I know none would care and none would feel the pressure of people saying certain mean things. And just to clarify, the whole if you go with a trans girl “you must like dick” I have my “boy” part always well hidden and no guy has ever asked to touch or feel (in person - some ask via message and I don’t meet those who want that kind of experience and redirect them to other girls who are comfortable with that) Until I’ll finally get rid of it and it won’t be a problem anymore.
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"own up guys ?? like its a sin ??? lets be clear here there is nothing wrong with going with anybody sexually as long as consenting adults man woman tv trans gender fluid /neutral sex is a passion as long as you enjoy then go for it ..so nothing to own up to i guess ... we are all one thing at the end of the day human own up seems to suggest theres shame involved ..well thats how i see it .. all i see is beautiful people having fun In defence to OP I don’t think he meant it in a malicious way, or at least I hope. It goes without saying tho that we still live in a world where “mates” make people feel bad if they say that they had a relationship or even slept with trans girls. So I see why the “own up” remark, I’ve been with guys who when making conversation, told they’d not bring it up with friends and it’d stay private. And it’s to due with social pressure because dickheads are everywhere and then they would be made fun of by others saying “you are gay, you like dick, you love trannies” etc and that shit is like bullying. Because if it was normalised, I know none would care and none would feel the pressure of people saying certain mean things. And just to clarify, the whole if you go with a trans girl “you must like dick” I have my “boy” part always well hidden and no guy has ever asked to touch or feel (in person - some ask via message and I don’t meet those who want that kind of experience and redirect them to other girls who are comfortable with that) Until I’ll finally get rid of it and it won’t be a problem anymore.
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Omg girl!! Yes, I hope you won’t have to wait much longer for the surgery! "Think we all had hopes that the wait lists would come down over time but with everything going that’s not happened, really hope you both get to the top of the lists soon x
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"own up guys ?? like its a sin ??? lets be clear here there is nothing wrong with going with anybody sexually as long as consenting adults man woman tv trans gender fluid /neutral sex is a passion as long as you enjoy then go for it ..so nothing to own up to i guess ... we are all one thing at the end of the day human own up seems to suggest theres shame involved ..well thats how i see it .. all i see is beautiful people having fun In defence to OP I don’t think he meant it in a malicious way, or at least I hope. It goes without saying tho that we still live in a world where “mates” make people feel bad if they say that they had a relationship or even slept with trans girls. So I see why the “own up” remark, I’ve been with guys who when making conversation, told they’d not bring it up with friends and it’d stay private. And it’s to due with social pressure because dickheads are everywhere and then they would be made fun of by others saying “you are gay, you like dick, you love trannies” etc and that shit is like bullying. Because if it was normalised, I know none would care and none would feel the pressure of people saying certain mean things. And just to clarify, the whole if you go with a trans girl “you must like dick” I have my “boy” part always well hidden and no guy has ever asked to touch or feel (in person - some ask via message and I don’t meet those who want that kind of experience and redirect them to other girls who are comfortable with that) Until I’ll finally get rid of it and it won’t be a problem anymore.
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Omg girl!! Yes, I hope you won’t have to wait much longer for the surgery!
Think we all had hopes that the wait lists would come down over time but with everything going that’s not happened, really hope you both get to the top of the lists soon x
"Thanks lovely!l that’s so kind of you to say. I’m not sure if you went through NHS but I’m going to go private so I’m just saving up/freeing up some cash flow for it | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. " You assume that all of us wear wigs all the time... | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. You assume that all of us wear wigs all the time..." Or that non trans people don’t use make up, wigs, false teeth etc or that guys always look handsome post orgasm/in the morning too | |||
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"own up guys ?? like its a sin ??? lets be clear here there is nothing wrong with going with anybody sexually as long as consenting adults man woman tv trans gender fluid /neutral sex is a passion as long as you enjoy then go for it ..so nothing to own up to i guess ... we are all one thing at the end of the day human own up seems to suggest theres shame involved ..well thats how i see it .. all i see is beautiful people having fun In defence to OP I don’t think he meant it in a malicious way, or at least I hope. It goes without saying tho that we still live in a world where “mates” make people feel bad if they say that they had a relationship or even slept with trans girls. So I see why the “own up” remark, I’ve been with guys who when making conversation, told they’d not bring it up with friends and it’d stay private. And it’s to due with social pressure because dickheads are everywhere and then they would be made fun of by others saying “you are gay, you like dick, you love trannies” etc and that shit is like bullying. Because if it was normalised, I know none would care and none would feel the pressure of people saying certain mean things. And just to clarify, the whole if you go with a trans girl “you must like dick” I have my “boy” part always well hidden and no guy has ever asked to touch or feel (in person - some ask via message and I don’t meet those who want that kind of experience and redirect them to other girls who are comfortable with that) Until I’ll finally get rid of it and it won’t be a problem anymore.
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Omg girl!! Yes, I hope you won’t have to wait much longer for the surgery!
Think we all had hopes that the wait lists would come down over time but with everything going that’s not happened, really hope you both get to the top of the lists soon x
Thanks lovely!l that’s so kind of you to say. I’m not sure if you went through NHS but I’m going to go private so I’m just saving up/freeing up some cash flow for it "I did go Nhs, I had my Grs with Mr Bellringer in 2016 when he was taking Nhs patients at his private clinic in Putney and the hospital in Wimbledon Parkside. Can highly recommended giving him a look of you do go private, either way best of luck for the future | |||
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"So own up guys who’s done it who loves it!? Who’s got the girls to recommend! " Hubby did it and loved it.. I know.. I watched | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. " Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. | |||
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"Totally agree - well written!" With what? | |||
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"So own up guys who’s done it who loves it!? Who’s got the girls to recommend! " We ain't just for Christmas | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate." Spot on | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate." To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …  | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans … "*mean shit | |||
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"hubby had a tv ride his cock , while i sucked their cock and judging by the moans and groans and the big load the tv filled my mouth with , they loved it "not gonna lie that's one of the hottest things of heard! | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans … "A d*unken gay guy in Manchester village, came up to me ‘there’s a reason whys T is on the end of LGBT, you’re a fucking add on’ I’ve never had that from straight people in the Village. The same gay guys generally don’t like more effeminate types and will say so. It’s, unfortunately part of the scene it’s why I prefer the swinging scene, that in general more accepting. | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans … "Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense. Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return: Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces. Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
A d*unken gay guy in Manchester village, came up to me ‘there’s a reason whys T is on the end of LGBT, you’re a fucking add on’ I’ve never had that from straight people in the Village. The same gay guys generally don’t like more effeminate types and will say so.
It’s, unfortunately part of the scene it’s why I prefer the swinging scene, that in general more accepting. "that's quite bad I thought would of been more welcoming all 1 big happy family type thing? I've been a dick when druck not that much of a DICK thou | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
A d*unken gay guy in Manchester village, came up to me ‘there’s a reason whys T is on the end of LGBT, you’re a fucking add on’ I’ve never had that from straight people in the Village. The same gay guys generally don’t like more effeminate types and will say so.
It’s, unfortunately part of the scene it’s why I prefer the swinging scene, that in general more accepting. that's quite bad I thought would of been more welcoming all 1 big happy family type thing? I've been a dick when druck not that much of a DICK thou "Absolute rubbish, the gay scene is geared towards and dominated by trans these dats, been massive drive of acceptance. See my post above about gay sites being ruined and no defence from trans community | |||
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"own up guys ?? like its a sin ??? lets be clear here there is nothing wrong with going with anybody sexually as long as consenting adults man woman tv trans gender fluid /neutral sex is a passion as long as you enjoy then go for it ..so nothing to own up to i guess ... we are all one thing at the end of the day human own up seems to suggest theres shame involved ..well thats how i see it .. all i see is beautiful people having fun " | |||
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"hubby had a tv ride his cock , while i sucked their cock and judging by the moans and groans and the big load the tv filled my mouth with , they loved it not gonna lie that's one of the hottest things of heard! "I completely agree , it is hot | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
"I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place. Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough! Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms. I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel.. Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless. I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there. All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) …. | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) …."I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic. Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not. No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence. These issues need to be raised, especially on here | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) ….
I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic.
Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not.
No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence.
These issues need to be raised, especially on here
"I find it hard to believe that cis straight men would actively message gay people on the app to tell homophobic things to them. Surely they would either decline or have on the profile that they are seeking trans women only? Also.. From what I can remember , when I tried it a few times before transitioning years ago, all I read was lots of profile of guys looking for guys saying: NO BLACK, NO SHORTIES, NO ASIAN, NO FEM!!!
We already get shit from everyone basically, and still girls end up getting killed to this day. Because there’s no real information about us, and lots of stigma and social pressure created by ignorant people.
And I think we should support each other instead of throwing daggers like…
I’m not trying to paint you as transphobic, all I’m bringing up is that I’ve read comments from you putting us trans or some of the tvs down.
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) ….
I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic.
Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not.
No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence.
These issues need to be raised, especially on here
I find it hard to believe that cis straight men would actively message gay people on the app to tell homophobic things to them. Surely they would either decline or have on the profile that they are seeking trans women only?
Also.. From what I can remember , when I tried it a few times before transitioning years ago, all I read was lots of profile of guys looking for guys saying: NO BLACK, NO SHORTIES, NO ASIAN, NO FEM!!!
We already get shit from everyone basically, and still girls end up getting killed to this day. Because there’s no real information about us, and lots of stigma and social pressure created by ignorant people.
And I think we should support each other instead of throwing daggers like…
I’m not trying to paint you as transphobic, all I’m bringing up is that I’ve read comments from you putting us trans or some of the tvs down.
"Right firstly, point me towards putting trans down, give me the thread and quote my comments here. I want you to back up your allegations, otherwise you are being irresponsible in throwing that card around so easy. If you cannot, await your apology. You are also disbelieving what I am saying about the homophobic men, it is clear you are not even on them or not even bothered noticing. Gay men are your biggest allies going, so show some mutual support in reining those individuals in. As for years ago what you saw, there were also ethnic minority men screaming ‘no white’, fem guys screaming ‘no masc/ straight acting’ and bears screaming for no slim. It works all ways. Also seen trans on the apps shouting no gay or bi men, ‘straight’ only. Wow they were gay sites, be a bit more polite. Gay men have been on the front line for decades being beaten, murdered, losing livelihoods etc and despite laws this still happens. Not just trans getting this. The good thing for trans is nearly all sites now cater for you, but gay men no longer have that luxury. Never seen anything like it, only happened last couple of years. Needs to be challenged | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
*mean shit"
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) ….
I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic.
Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not.
No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence.
These issues need to be raised, especially on here
I find it hard to believe that cis straight men would actively message gay people on the app to tell homophobic things to them. Surely they would either decline or have on the profile that they are seeking trans women only?
Also.. From what I can remember , when I tried it a few times before transitioning years ago, all I read was lots of profile of guys looking for guys saying: NO BLACK, NO SHORTIES, NO ASIAN, NO FEM!!!
We already get shit from everyone basically, and still girls end up getting killed to this day. Because there’s no real information about us, and lots of stigma and social pressure created by ignorant people.
And I think we should support each other instead of throwing daggers like…
I’m not trying to paint you as transphobic, all I’m bringing up is that I’ve read comments from you putting us trans or some of the tvs down.
Right firstly, point me towards putting trans down, give me the thread and quote my comments here. I want you to back up your allegations, otherwise you are being irresponsible in throwing that card around so easy. If you cannot, await your apology.
You are also disbelieving what I am saying about the homophobic men, it is clear you are not even on them or not even bothered noticing. Gay men are your biggest allies going, so show some mutual support in reining those individuals in.
As for years ago what you saw, there were also ethnic minority men screaming ‘no white’, fem guys screaming ‘no masc/ straight acting’ and bears screaming for no slim. It works all ways.
Also seen trans on the apps shouting no gay or bi men, ‘straight’ only. Wow they were gay sites, be a bit more polite.
Gay men have been on the front line for decades being beaten, murdered, losing livelihoods etc and despite laws this still happens. Not just trans getting this. The good thing for trans is nearly all sites now cater for you, but gay men no longer have that luxury. Never seen anything like it, only happened last couple of years. Needs to be challenged "I can’t believe you are asking me for receipts. I’m not exactly that mental (i got other things to do) or adverse to you that I started screen shotting every single comment that I thought to myself “Wow that was kinda offensive” I agree with the fact that gay men/women had to endure prejudice and years of oppression and not being understood. Hence why we are all in the same boat … and why we should stick together. But again, I seem to notice gays who just throw us under the bus. Or we get told by you, how your community suffered first so, it almost comes across that we need to suck it up… If we aren’t the gays biggest supporters then I don’t know who else…
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
*mean shit
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) ….
I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic.
Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not.
No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence.
These issues need to be raised, especially on here
I find it hard to believe that cis straight men would actively message gay people on the app to tell homophobic things to them. Surely they would either decline or have on the profile that they are seeking trans women only?
Also.. From what I can remember , when I tried it a few times before transitioning years ago, all I read was lots of profile of guys looking for guys saying: NO BLACK, NO SHORTIES, NO ASIAN, NO FEM!!!
We already get shit from everyone basically, and still girls end up getting killed to this day. Because there’s no real information about us, and lots of stigma and social pressure created by ignorant people.
And I think we should support each other instead of throwing daggers like…
I’m not trying to paint you as transphobic, all I’m bringing up is that I’ve read comments from you putting us trans or some of the tvs down.
Right firstly, point me towards putting trans down, give me the thread and quote my comments here. I want you to back up your allegations, otherwise you are being irresponsible in throwing that card around so easy. If you cannot, await your apology.
You are also disbelieving what I am saying about the homophobic men, it is clear you are not even on them or not even bothered noticing. Gay men are your biggest allies going, so show some mutual support in reining those individuals in.
As for years ago what you saw, there were also ethnic minority men screaming ‘no white’, fem guys screaming ‘no masc/ straight acting’ and bears screaming for no slim. It works all ways.
Also seen trans on the apps shouting no gay or bi men, ‘straight’ only. Wow they were gay sites, be a bit more polite.
Gay men have been on the front line for decades being beaten, murdered, losing livelihoods etc and despite laws this still happens. Not just trans getting this. The good thing for trans is nearly all sites now cater for you, but gay men no longer have that luxury. Never seen anything like it, only happened last couple of years. Needs to be challenged
I can’t believe you are asking me for receipts. I’m not exactly that mental (i got other things to do) or adverse to you that I started screen shotting every single comment that I thought to myself “Wow that was kinda offensive”
I agree with the fact that gay men/women had to endure prejudice and years of oppression and not being understood. Hence why we are all in the same boat … and why we should stick together. But again, I seem to notice gays who just throw us under the bus.
Or we get told by you, how your community suffered first so, it almost comes across that we need to suck it up…
If we aren’t the gays biggest supporters then I don’t know who else…
"EXACTLY, you are WRONG I have not put trans down, just being too irresponsible throwing that card around. It is irresponsible, please be careful with things like that. Give me examples of gay men throwing you under the bus? Or is that another throwaway comment like when you accused me wrongly of putting trans down? No one is telling you to suck it up, everything is being geared towards you by gay people, at our own expense it is clearly showing. People too quick to chat shit about gay men on here whether they are straight, bi or trans, saw it for couple of years here before. Lucky an assertive voice is here to speak up hey | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
*mean shit
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Some gay men DO go with drag queens and cross dressers, so me commenting is not wrong. As to you why they would, you could question the same thing about straight men who do "Straight men like beauty the effort we go to and gay men don't go with drag queens at all they are close friends the two what you said was more about looks like I said alot are stunning after the makeup comes off everyone has a story to tell out struggles etc but you keep flying the flag for the gay community your doing so well maybe you could be our next Prime minister???? | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) ….
I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic.
Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not.
No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence.
These issues need to be raised, especially on here
I find it hard to believe that cis straight men would actively message gay people on the app to tell homophobic things to them. Surely they would either decline or have on the profile that they are seeking trans women only?
Also.. From what I can remember , when I tried it a few times before transitioning years ago, all I read was lots of profile of guys looking for guys saying: NO BLACK, NO SHORTIES, NO ASIAN, NO FEM!!!
We already get shit from everyone basically, and still girls end up getting killed to this day. Because there’s no real information about us, and lots of stigma and social pressure created by ignorant people.
And I think we should support each other instead of throwing daggers like…
I’m not trying to paint you as transphobic, all I’m bringing up is that I’ve read comments from you putting us trans or some of the tvs down.
Right firstly, point me towards putting trans down, give me the thread and quote my comments here. I want you to back up your allegations, otherwise you are being irresponsible in throwing that card around so easy. If you cannot, await your apology.
You are also disbelieving what I am saying about the homophobic men, it is clear you are not even on them or not even bothered noticing. Gay men are your biggest allies going, so show some mutual support in reining those individuals in.
As for years ago what you saw, there were also ethnic minority men screaming ‘no white’, fem guys screaming ‘no masc/ straight acting’ and bears screaming for no slim. It works all ways.
Also seen trans on the apps shouting no gay or bi men, ‘straight’ only. Wow they were gay sites, be a bit more polite.
Gay men have been on the front line for decades being beaten, murdered, losing livelihoods etc and despite laws this still happens. Not just trans getting this. The good thing for trans is nearly all sites now cater for you, but gay men no longer have that luxury. Never seen anything like it, only happened last couple of years. Needs to be challenged
I can’t believe you are asking me for receipts. I’m not exactly that mental (i got other things to do) or adverse to you that I started screen shotting every single comment that I thought to myself “Wow that was kinda offensive”
I agree with the fact that gay men/women had to endure prejudice and years of oppression and not being understood. Hence why we are all in the same boat … and why we should stick together. But again, I seem to notice gays who just throw us under the bus.
Or we get told by you, how your community suffered first so, it almost comes across that we need to suck it up…
If we aren’t the gays biggest supporters then I don’t know who else…
EXACTLY, you are WRONG I have not put trans down, just being too irresponsible throwing that card around. It is irresponsible, please be careful with things like that.
Give me examples of gay men throwing you under the bus? Or is that another throwaway comment like when you accused me wrongly of putting trans down?
No one is telling you to suck it up, everything is being geared towards you by gay people, at our own expense it is clearly showing. People too quick to chat shit about gay men on here whether they are straight, bi or trans, saw it for couple of years here before. Lucky an assertive voice is here to speak up hey "Your not speaking for all gay men  | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) ….
I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic.
Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not.
No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence.
These issues need to be raised, especially on here
I find it hard to believe that cis straight men would actively message gay people on the app to tell homophobic things to them. Surely they would either decline or have on the profile that they are seeking trans women only?
Also.. From what I can remember , when I tried it a few times before transitioning years ago, all I read was lots of profile of guys looking for guys saying: NO BLACK, NO SHORTIES, NO ASIAN, NO FEM!!!
We already get shit from everyone basically, and still girls end up getting killed to this day. Because there’s no real information about us, and lots of stigma and social pressure created by ignorant people.
And I think we should support each other instead of throwing daggers like…
I’m not trying to paint you as transphobic, all I’m bringing up is that I’ve read comments from you putting us trans or some of the tvs down.
Right firstly, point me towards putting trans down, give me the thread and quote my comments here. I want you to back up your allegations, otherwise you are being irresponsible in throwing that card around so easy. If you cannot, await your apology.
You are also disbelieving what I am saying about the homophobic men, it is clear you are not even on them or not even bothered noticing. Gay men are your biggest allies going, so show some mutual support in reining those individuals in.
As for years ago what you saw, there were also ethnic minority men screaming ‘no white’, fem guys screaming ‘no masc/ straight acting’ and bears screaming for no slim. It works all ways.
Also seen trans on the apps shouting no gay or bi men, ‘straight’ only. Wow they were gay sites, be a bit more polite.
Gay men have been on the front line for decades being beaten, murdered, losing livelihoods etc and despite laws this still happens. Not just trans getting this. The good thing for trans is nearly all sites now cater for you, but gay men no longer have that luxury. Never seen anything like it, only happened last couple of years. Needs to be challenged
I can’t believe you are asking me for receipts. I’m not exactly that mental (i got other things to do) or adverse to you that I started screen shotting every single comment that I thought to myself “Wow that was kinda offensive”
I agree with the fact that gay men/women had to endure prejudice and years of oppression and not being understood. Hence why we are all in the same boat … and why we should stick together. But again, I seem to notice gays who just throw us under the bus.
Or we get told by you, how your community suffered first so, it almost comes across that we need to suck it up…
If we aren’t the gays biggest supporters then I don’t know who else…
EXACTLY, you are WRONG I have not put trans down, just being too irresponsible throwing that card around. It is irresponsible, please be careful with things like that.
Give me examples of gay men throwing you under the bus? Or is that another throwaway comment like when you accused me wrongly of putting trans down?
No one is telling you to suck it up, everything is being geared towards you by gay people, at our own expense it is clearly showing. People too quick to chat shit about gay men on here whether they are straight, bi or trans, saw it for couple of years here before. Lucky an assertive voice is here to speak up hey "Remind me to start keeping a tab on what you say from now on… | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) ….
I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic.
Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not.
No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence.
These issues need to be raised, especially on here
I find it hard to believe that cis straight men would actively message gay people on the app to tell homophobic things to them. Surely they would either decline or have on the profile that they are seeking trans women only?
Also.. From what I can remember , when I tried it a few times before transitioning years ago, all I read was lots of profile of guys looking for guys saying: NO BLACK, NO SHORTIES, NO ASIAN, NO FEM!!!
We already get shit from everyone basically, and still girls end up getting killed to this day. Because there’s no real information about us, and lots of stigma and social pressure created by ignorant people.
And I think we should support each other instead of throwing daggers like…
I’m not trying to paint you as transphobic, all I’m bringing up is that I’ve read comments from you putting us trans or some of the tvs down.
Right firstly, point me towards putting trans down, give me the thread and quote my comments here. I want you to back up your allegations, otherwise you are being irresponsible in throwing that card around so easy. If you cannot, await your apology.
You are also disbelieving what I am saying about the homophobic men, it is clear you are not even on them or not even bothered noticing. Gay men are your biggest allies going, so show some mutual support in reining those individuals in.
As for years ago what you saw, there were also ethnic minority men screaming ‘no white’, fem guys screaming ‘no masc/ straight acting’ and bears screaming for no slim. It works all ways.
Also seen trans on the apps shouting no gay or bi men, ‘straight’ only. Wow they were gay sites, be a bit more polite.
Gay men have been on the front line for decades being beaten, murdered, losing livelihoods etc and despite laws this still happens. Not just trans getting this. The good thing for trans is nearly all sites now cater for you, but gay men no longer have that luxury. Never seen anything like it, only happened last couple of years. Needs to be challenged
I can’t believe you are asking me for receipts. I’m not exactly that mental (i got other things to do) or adverse to you that I started screen shotting every single comment that I thought to myself “Wow that was kinda offensive”
I agree with the fact that gay men/women had to endure prejudice and years of oppression and not being understood. Hence why we are all in the same boat … and why we should stick together. But again, I seem to notice gays who just throw us under the bus.
Or we get told by you, how your community suffered first so, it almost comes across that we need to suck it up…
If we aren’t the gays biggest supporters then I don’t know who else…
EXACTLY, you are WRONG I have not put trans down, just being too irresponsible throwing that card around. It is irresponsible, please be careful with things like that.
Give me examples of gay men throwing you under the bus? Or is that another throwaway comment like when you accused me wrongly of putting trans down?
No one is telling you to suck it up, everything is being geared towards you by gay people, at our own expense it is clearly showing. People too quick to chat shit about gay men on here whether they are straight, bi or trans, saw it for couple of years here before. Lucky an assertive voice is here to speak up hey "Your type is the masculine type yes??? Why you even getting involved in trans subjects??? | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
*mean shit
X
Some gay men DO go with drag queens and cross dressers, so me commenting is not wrong. As to you why they would, you could question the same thing about straight men who do
Straight men like beauty the effort we go to and gay men don't go with drag queens at all they are close friends the two what you said was more about looks like I said alot are stunning after the makeup comes off everyone has a story to tell out struggles etc but you keep flying the flag for the gay community your doing so well maybe you could be our next Prime minister???? "But didn’t you know?? Apparently we are just men with wigs that slap make up on and once that comes off we look shocking and just men really… and also men who sleep with us aren’t really what they say they are and they are closeted and not straight because guess what. We are men with long hair who wear pretty knickers…. Total invalidation of who I am as a woman (regardless if I’m post or pre op)………. | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
*mean shit
X
Some gay men DO go with drag queens and cross dressers, so me commenting is not wrong. As to you why they would, you could question the same thing about straight men who do
Straight men like beauty the effort we go to and gay men don't go with drag queens at all they are close friends the two what you said was more about looks like I said alot are stunning after the makeup comes off everyone has a story to tell out struggles etc but you keep flying the flag for the gay community your doing so well maybe you could be our next Prime minister????
But didn’t you know?? Apparently we are just men with wigs that slap make up on and once that comes off we look shocking and just men really… and also men who sleep with us aren’t really what they say they are and they are closeted and not straight because guess what. We are men with long hair who wear pretty knickers….
Total invalidation of who I am as a woman (regardless if I’m post or pre op)………. "Girlllll  | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
*mean shit
X
Some gay men DO go with drag queens and cross dressers, so me commenting is not wrong. As to you why they would, you could question the same thing about straight men who do
Straight men like beauty the effort we go to and gay men don't go with drag queens at all they are close friends the two what you said was more about looks like I said alot are stunning after the makeup comes off everyone has a story to tell out struggles etc but you keep flying the flag for the gay community your doing so well maybe you could be our next Prime minister????
But didn’t you know?? Apparently we are just men with wigs that slap make up on and once that comes off we look shocking and just men really… and also men who sleep with us aren’t really what they say they are and they are closeted and not straight because guess what. We are men with long hair who wear pretty knickers….
Total invalidation of who I am as a woman (regardless if I’m post or pre op)………. "I for one without make up look ok but I do love my make up xxx | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) ….
I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic.
Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not.
No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence.
These issues need to be raised, especially on here
I find it hard to believe that cis straight men would actively message gay people on the app to tell homophobic things to them. Surely they would either decline or have on the profile that they are seeking trans women only?
Also.. From what I can remember , when I tried it a few times before transitioning years ago, all I read was lots of profile of guys looking for guys saying: NO BLACK, NO SHORTIES, NO ASIAN, NO FEM!!!
We already get shit from everyone basically, and still girls end up getting killed to this day. Because there’s no real information about us, and lots of stigma and social pressure created by ignorant people.
And I think we should support each other instead of throwing daggers like…
I’m not trying to paint you as transphobic, all I’m bringing up is that I’ve read comments from you putting us trans or some of the tvs down.
Right firstly, point me towards putting trans down, give me the thread and quote my comments here. I want you to back up your allegations, otherwise you are being irresponsible in throwing that card around so easy. If you cannot, await your apology.
You are also disbelieving what I am saying about the homophobic men, it is clear you are not even on them or not even bothered noticing. Gay men are your biggest allies going, so show some mutual support in reining those individuals in.
As for years ago what you saw, there were also ethnic minority men screaming ‘no white’, fem guys screaming ‘no masc/ straight acting’ and bears screaming for no slim. It works all ways.
Also seen trans on the apps shouting no gay or bi men, ‘straight’ only. Wow they were gay sites, be a bit more polite.
Gay men have been on the front line for decades being beaten, murdered, losing livelihoods etc and despite laws this still happens. Not just trans getting this. The good thing for trans is nearly all sites now cater for you, but gay men no longer have that luxury. Never seen anything like it, only happened last couple of years. Needs to be challenged
I can’t believe you are asking me for receipts. I’m not exactly that mental (i got other things to do) or adverse to you that I started screen shotting every single comment that I thought to myself “Wow that was kinda offensive”
I agree with the fact that gay men/women had to endure prejudice and years of oppression and not being understood. Hence why we are all in the same boat … and why we should stick together. But again, I seem to notice gays who just throw us under the bus.
Or we get told by you, how your community suffered first so, it almost comes across that we need to suck it up…
If we aren’t the gays biggest supporters then I don’t know who else…
EXACTLY, you are WRONG I have not put trans down, just being too irresponsible throwing that card around. It is irresponsible, please be careful with things like that.
Give me examples of gay men throwing you under the bus? Or is that another throwaway comment like when you accused me wrongly of putting trans down?
No one is telling you to suck it up, everything is being geared towards you by gay people, at our own expense it is clearly showing. People too quick to chat shit about gay men on here whether they are straight, bi or trans, saw it for couple of years here before. Lucky an assertive voice is here to speak up hey
Remind me to start keeping a tab on what you say from now on… "Yes please do, before throwing the bigot card around as when you are proved wrong it diminishes both you in debates and weakens the card against geuine bigotry
By the way my posting history is only a green arrow away….. | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
*mean shit
X
Some gay men DO go with drag queens and cross dressers, so me commenting is not wrong. As to you why they would, you could question the same thing about straight men who do
Straight men like beauty the effort we go to and gay men don't go with drag queens at all they are close friends the two what you said was more about looks like I said alot are stunning after the makeup comes off everyone has a story to tell out struggles etc but you keep flying the flag for the gay community your doing so well maybe you could be our next Prime minister????
But didn’t you know?? Apparently we are just men with wigs that slap make up on and once that comes off we look shocking and just men really… and also men who sleep with us aren’t really what they say they are and they are closeted and not straight because guess what. We are men with long hair who wear pretty knickers….
Total invalidation of who I am as a woman (regardless if I’m post or pre op)………. "Confused, you call yourself trans, CD and TV are not transexuals. Are you now undermining your own post you did recently distinguishing between them all? You are not very solid in debates are you? | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) ….
I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic.
Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not.
No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence.
These issues need to be raised, especially on here
I find it hard to believe that cis straight men would actively message gay people on the app to tell homophobic things to them. Surely they would either decline or have on the profile that they are seeking trans women only?
Also.. From what I can remember , when I tried it a few times before transitioning years ago, all I read was lots of profile of guys looking for guys saying: NO BLACK, NO SHORTIES, NO ASIAN, NO FEM!!!
We already get shit from everyone basically, and still girls end up getting killed to this day. Because there’s no real information about us, and lots of stigma and social pressure created by ignorant people.
And I think we should support each other instead of throwing daggers like…
I’m not trying to paint you as transphobic, all I’m bringing up is that I’ve read comments from you putting us trans or some of the tvs down.
Right firstly, point me towards putting trans down, give me the thread and quote my comments here. I want you to back up your allegations, otherwise you are being irresponsible in throwing that card around so easy. If you cannot, await your apology.
You are also disbelieving what I am saying about the homophobic men, it is clear you are not even on them or not even bothered noticing. Gay men are your biggest allies going, so show some mutual support in reining those individuals in.
As for years ago what you saw, there were also ethnic minority men screaming ‘no white’, fem guys screaming ‘no masc/ straight acting’ and bears screaming for no slim. It works all ways.
Also seen trans on the apps shouting no gay or bi men, ‘straight’ only. Wow they were gay sites, be a bit more polite.
Gay men have been on the front line for decades being beaten, murdered, losing livelihoods etc and despite laws this still happens. Not just trans getting this. The good thing for trans is nearly all sites now cater for you, but gay men no longer have that luxury. Never seen anything like it, only happened last couple of years. Needs to be challenged
I can’t believe you are asking me for receipts. I’m not exactly that mental (i got other things to do) or adverse to you that I started screen shotting every single comment that I thought to myself “Wow that was kinda offensive”
I agree with the fact that gay men/women had to endure prejudice and years of oppression and not being understood. Hence why we are all in the same boat … and why we should stick together. But again, I seem to notice gays who just throw us under the bus.
Or we get told by you, how your community suffered first so, it almost comes across that we need to suck it up…
If we aren’t the gays biggest supporters then I don’t know who else…
EXACTLY, you are WRONG I have not put trans down, just being too irresponsible throwing that card around. It is irresponsible, please be careful with things like that.
Give me examples of gay men throwing you under the bus? Or is that another throwaway comment like when you accused me wrongly of putting trans down?
No one is telling you to suck it up, everything is being geared towards you by gay people, at our own expense it is clearly showing. People too quick to chat shit about gay men on here whether they are straight, bi or trans, saw it for couple of years here before. Lucky an assertive voice is here to speak up hey
Remind me to start keeping a tab on what you say from now on…
Yes please do, before throwing the bigot card around as when you are proved wrong it diminishes both you in debates and weakens the card against geuine bigotry
By the way my posting history is only a green arrow away….."Yeah exactly the same as last time you were on here same words same attitude same opinions | |||
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"Find it a bit insensitive this thread. These are people and nobody needs to own up. I admire the effort that a lot of the girls make to look as outstanding as they do. " | |||
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"Find it a bit insensitive this thread. These are people and nobody needs to own up. I admire the effort that a lot of the girls make to look as outstanding as they do. "Your right from the Original post to here its demeaning | |||
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"hubby had a tv ride his cock , while i sucked their cock and judging by the moans and groans and the big load the tv filled my mouth with , they loved it not gonna lie that's one of the hottest things of heard!
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) ….
I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic.
Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not.
No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence.
These issues need to be raised, especially on here
I find it hard to believe that cis straight men would actively message gay people on the app to tell homophobic things to them. Surely they would either decline or have on the profile that they are seeking trans women only?
Also.. From what I can remember , when I tried it a few times before transitioning years ago, all I read was lots of profile of guys looking for guys saying: NO BLACK, NO SHORTIES, NO ASIAN, NO FEM!!!
We already get shit from everyone basically, and still girls end up getting killed to this day. Because there’s no real information about us, and lots of stigma and social pressure created by ignorant people.
And I think we should support each other instead of throwing daggers like…
I’m not trying to paint you as transphobic, all I’m bringing up is that I’ve read comments from you putting us trans or some of the tvs down.
Right firstly, point me towards putting trans down, give me the thread and quote my comments here. I want you to back up your allegations, otherwise you are being irresponsible in throwing that card around so easy. If you cannot, await your apology.
You are also disbelieving what I am saying about the homophobic men, it is clear you are not even on them or not even bothered noticing. Gay men are your biggest allies going, so show some mutual support in reining those individuals in.
As for years ago what you saw, there were also ethnic minority men screaming ‘no white’, fem guys screaming ‘no masc/ straight acting’ and bears screaming for no slim. It works all ways.
Also seen trans on the apps shouting no gay or bi men, ‘straight’ only. Wow they were gay sites, be a bit more polite.
Gay men have been on the front line for decades being beaten, murdered, losing livelihoods etc and despite laws this still happens. Not just trans getting this. The good thing for trans is nearly all sites now cater for you, but gay men no longer have that luxury. Never seen anything like it, only happened last couple of years. Needs to be challenged
I can’t believe you are asking me for receipts. I’m not exactly that mental (i got other things to do) or adverse to you that I started screen shotting every single comment that I thought to myself “Wow that was kinda offensive”
I agree with the fact that gay men/women had to endure prejudice and years of oppression and not being understood. Hence why we are all in the same boat … and why we should stick together. But again, I seem to notice gays who just throw us under the bus.
Or we get told by you, how your community suffered first so, it almost comes across that we need to suck it up…
If we aren’t the gays biggest supporters then I don’t know who else…
EXACTLY, you are WRONG I have not put trans down, just being too irresponsible throwing that card around. It is irresponsible, please be careful with things like that.
Give me examples of gay men throwing you under the bus? Or is that another throwaway comment like when you accused me wrongly of putting trans down?
No one is telling you to suck it up, everything is being geared towards you by gay people, at our own expense it is clearly showing. People too quick to chat shit about gay men on here whether they are straight, bi or trans, saw it for couple of years here before. Lucky an assertive voice is here to speak up hey
Remind me to start keeping a tab on what you say from now on…
Yes please do, before throwing the bigot card around as when you are proved wrong it diminishes both you in debates and weakens the card against geuine bigotry
By the way my posting history is only a green arrow away…..
Yeah exactly the same as last time you were on here same words same attitude same opinions "Yes exactly, same words yet no proof of being transphobic. I was referring to militant non-binary people other day. I was referring to cross dressers on this thread, that is not transphobic what I said. I cannot respect that card being thrown around so easy. We are going round in circles, repeating same things now. Everything has been said, now I am getting on with painting my flat | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
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Some gay men DO go with drag queens and cross dressers, so me commenting is not wrong. As to you why they would, you could question the same thing about straight men who do
Straight men like beauty the effort we go to and gay men don't go with drag queens at all they are close friends the two what you said was more about looks like I said alot are stunning after the makeup comes off everyone has a story to tell out struggles etc but you keep flying the flag for the gay community your doing so well maybe you could be our next Prime minister????
But didn’t you know?? Apparently we are just men with wigs that slap make up on and once that comes off we look shocking and just men really… and also men who sleep with us aren’t really what they say they are and they are closeted and not straight because guess what. We are men with long hair who wear pretty knickers….
Total invalidation of who I am as a woman (regardless if I’m post or pre op)……….
Confused, you call yourself trans, CD and TV are not transexuals. Are you now undermining your own post you did recently distinguishing between them all? You are not very solid in debates are you?"I’m just repeating the shit that some of us constantly hear… I’m not talking about CDs but I am talking that that’s what some of you have the assumption about us trans girls. That we are fake ass girls … I’ve heard it all from that way of trying to invalidate us. To the point of going back to the chromosomes argument …… or the fact that we don’t have a uterus even if we get a vag….. Regarding tvs, I just don’t want to invalidate anyone. If they are full time transvestites and identify as women, but aren’t going to medically transition, and surgically transition. That doesn’t make them less of my sisters…. | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. Your gay why would a gay man want to go with some one who dresses up etc we have Cds transwomen transvestite ts when the wigs and make up comes off some are more stunning Your comment was wrong and inappropriate. To be fair he always says inappropriate things to the t community… then again he’s not the first , as I’ve heard a few gay guys really say mean about trans …
Are cross dressers part of the trans community? Also my comments other day were on militant non-binary types and also age appropriate education of kids. This is not ‘hate’ but common sense.
Gay men are only saying the truth as we have had more exposure over decades than anyone else, there is no hate, we have bent over backwards to accommodate and help you. Yet in return:
Gay men are also getting annoyed as our apps and sites have been totally ruined by homophobic ‘straight’ and bi men hunting trans and the trans do NOTHING to pull those men up about their bad attitudes and behaviour in what used to be gay men’s spaces.
Getting your leg over is clearly more important to nearly all trans than principles that you demand of everyone else. Never once seen a trans pull up those men, so who hates who exactly?
I don’t know much about Cross dressers. But as it’s usually more of a sex thing/fetish thing I don’t think there’s much of a community in the first place.
Either way none is judging if a guy who wants to cross dress. Fair enough!
Being trans isn’t a choice, it isn’t a sex thing and it’s for us to deal with in our own terms.
I may not resonate much about not being able to feel either male or female but certainly I’m not treating them like a circus act because there are people who finally speak out on how they feel..
Regarding homophobic guys, are you trying to put the blame on us because they are rude?? If they are dicks, they are dicks regardless.
I’m assuming you are referring to Grindr, which I don’t use so I can’t really speak about it and about what goes on there.
All I’m saying is that I’ve heard (in person) a lot of negative remarks from the gay community about us trans girls. We should be allies (and thankfully there are some) ….
I support transgender people, not sure why you are trying so hard to paint me as transphobic.
Yes I am blaming all trans for the homophobic attitudes that have suddenly appeared on our apps and sites since trans were invited on. If trans people were pulling them up, then it would not be so horribly widespread in our ruined spaces. But they clearly are not.
No consideration for vulnerable gay people, especially those just finding their feet, who join these sites hoping to find fitting space only to find homophobic men all over them screaming for trans, who endorse this behaviour through their silence.
These issues need to be raised, especially on here
I find it hard to believe that cis straight men would actively message gay people on the app to tell homophobic things to them. Surely they would either decline or have on the profile that they are seeking trans women only?
Also.. From what I can remember , when I tried it a few times before transitioning years ago, all I read was lots of profile of guys looking for guys saying: NO BLACK, NO SHORTIES, NO ASIAN, NO FEM!!!
We already get shit from everyone basically, and still girls end up getting killed to this day. Because there’s no real information about us, and lots of stigma and social pressure created by ignorant people.
And I think we should support each other instead of throwing daggers like…
I’m not trying to paint you as transphobic, all I’m bringing up is that I’ve read comments from you putting us trans or some of the tvs down.
Right firstly, point me towards putting trans down, give me the thread and quote my comments here. I want you to back up your allegations, otherwise you are being irresponsible in throwing that card around so easy. If you cannot, await your apology.
You are also disbelieving what I am saying about the homophobic men, it is clear you are not even on them or not even bothered noticing. Gay men are your biggest allies going, so show some mutual support in reining those individuals in.
As for years ago what you saw, there were also ethnic minority men screaming ‘no white’, fem guys screaming ‘no masc/ straight acting’ and bears screaming for no slim. It works all ways.
Also seen trans on the apps shouting no gay or bi men, ‘straight’ only. Wow they were gay sites, be a bit more polite.
Gay men have been on the front line for decades being beaten, murdered, losing livelihoods etc and despite laws this still happens. Not just trans getting this. The good thing for trans is nearly all sites now cater for you, but gay men no longer have that luxury. Never seen anything like it, only happened last couple of years. Needs to be challenged
I can’t believe you are asking me for receipts. I’m not exactly that mental (i got other things to do) or adverse to you that I started screen shotting every single comment that I thought to myself “Wow that was kinda offensive”
I agree with the fact that gay men/women had to endure prejudice and years of oppression and not being understood. Hence why we are all in the same boat … and why we should stick together. But again, I seem to notice gays who just throw us under the bus.
Or we get told by you, how your community suffered first so, it almost comes across that we need to suck it up…
If we aren’t the gays biggest supporters then I don’t know who else…
EXACTLY, you are WRONG I have not put trans down, just being too irresponsible throwing that card around. It is irresponsible, please be careful with things like that.
Give me examples of gay men throwing you under the bus? Or is that another throwaway comment like when you accused me wrongly of putting trans down?
No one is telling you to suck it up, everything is being geared towards you by gay people, at our own expense it is clearly showing. People too quick to chat shit about gay men on here whether they are straight, bi or trans, saw it for couple of years here before. Lucky an assertive voice is here to speak up hey
Remind me to start keeping a tab on what you say from now on…
Yes please do, before throwing the bigot card around as when you are proved wrong it diminishes both you in debates and weakens the card against geuine bigotry
By the way my posting history is only a green arrow away…..
Yeah exactly the same as last time you were on here same words same attitude same opinions
Yes exactly, same words yet no proof of being transphobic. I was referring to militant non-binary people other day. I was referring to cross dressers on this thread, that is not transphobic what I said. I cannot respect that card being thrown around so easy. We are going round in circles, repeating same things now. Everything has been said, now I am getting on with painting my flat "Live and let live I never said your were transphobic | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. It’s not always a pretty sight when a lot of individuals take makeup off or a guy who is smartly dressed peels of and looks and smells like a mountain gorilla. (For example) Most folk come warts and all. (Preferably not genital )"Btw the make up remark can be said about cis women too… - I read stories of some women who wouldn’t take the make up off when the bf was sleeping over… | |||
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as of course you need mutual attraction and also not many we’ve spoken too are sexually attracted to women as they are men. For myself (Miss) I’d happily meet anyone (post/pre op) as long as mutual attraction and good chat is there of course as that’s no fun for either party and for Mr he is straight, comfortable around anyone but he knows he only gets turned on by women so would only meet those post op, but we are fairly open so if there was a lady I was attracted to but pre op then I’d have the opportunity to meet singly if that’s what they wanted aswell xx
We personally don’t understand why people try and make tv/ts/cd etc a secret they are people and for us they are personally some of the best people to chat and have a laugh with never mind anything sexual. It’s why we attend Chameleon Newport on a Saturday because it is singly the most comfortable and friendliest atmosphere compared to any club we’ve been too | |||
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"We would but haven’t had the opportunity yet as of course you need mutual attraction and also not many we’ve spoken too are sexually attracted to women as they are men. For myself (Miss) I’d happily meet anyone (post/pre op) as long as mutual attraction and good chat is there of course as that’s no fun for either party and for Mr he is straight, comfortable around anyone but he knows he only gets turned on by women so would only meet those post op, but we are fairly open so if there was a lady I was attracted to but pre op then I’d have the opportunity to meet singly if that’s what they wanted aswell xx
We personally don’t understand why people try and make tv/ts/cd etc a secret they are people and for us they are personally some of the best people to chat and have a laugh with never mind anything sexual. It’s why we attend Chameleon Newport on a Saturday because it is singly the most comfortable and friendliest atmosphere compared to any club we’ve been too "I think Kylie (further up the thread) said it best. For a number of men we are a dirty secret they don't want getting out. They enjoy sex and more with TV/trans girls but due to societal pressure they are ashamed of that enjoyment. For me, I want to meet people who enjoy me as a whole not just a hole. | |||
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" I think Kylie (further up the thread) said it best. For a number of men we are a dirty secret they don't want getting out. They enjoy sex and more with TV/trans girls but due to societal pressure they are ashamed of that enjoyment. For me, I want to meet people who enjoy me as a whole not just a hole." It such a shame people think like this  | |||
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" I think Kylie (further up the thread) said it best. For a number of men we are a dirty secret they don't want getting out. They enjoy sex and more with TV/trans girls but due to societal pressure they are ashamed of that enjoyment. For me, I want to meet people who enjoy me as a whole not just a hole. It is, but it's not really their fault. Society hasn't yet come to grips with the concept of trans people so toxic masculinity still holds sway. For the record I'm not trans, I'm just a guy who enjoys dressing up to have sex - although I'm now just as interested in going out socially as my alter-ego. It such a shame people think like this " | |||
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"We would but haven’t had the opportunity yet as of course you need mutual attraction and also not many we’ve spoken too are sexually attracted to women as they are men. For myself (Miss) I’d happily meet anyone (post/pre op) as long as mutual attraction and good chat is there of course as that’s no fun for either party and for Mr he is straight, comfortable around anyone but he knows he only gets turned on by women so would only meet those post op, but we are fairly open so if there was a lady I was attracted to but pre op then I’d have the opportunity to meet singly if that’s what they wanted aswell xx
We personally don’t understand why people try and make tv/ts/cd etc a secret they are people and for us they are personally some of the best people to chat and have a laugh with never mind anything sexual. It’s why we attend Chameleon Newport on a Saturday because it is singly the most comfortable and friendliest atmosphere compared to any club we’ve been too
I think Kylie (further up the thread) said it best.
For a number of men we are a dirty secret they don't want getting out.
They enjoy sex and more with TV/trans girls but due to societal pressure they are ashamed of that enjoyment.
For me, I want to meet people who enjoy me as a whole not just a hole."Exactly, I don’t blame them necessarily (these guys) as some were really gentlemen and really really nice and kind to me….but I do blame society and social pressure for creating this. I’m pointing at everyone who also accuses these men to not really be straight and that they should be honest on how they identify themselves … it creates doubt, And it messes with people heads resulting with getting put in the … dirty secret box Now and again you have the guy who won’t give a shit and they hold our hands no problem in public , but those are hard to find. Rant over | |||
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting. It’s not always a pretty sight when a lot of individuals take makeup off or a guy who is smartly dressed peels of and looks and smells like a mountain gorilla. (For example) Most folk come warts and all. (Preferably not genital )"Touché.... Smelling like a mountain gorilla... So made me chuckle | |||
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"We would but haven’t had the opportunity yet as of course you need mutual attraction and also not many we’ve spoken too are sexually attracted to women as they are men. For myself (Miss) I’d happily meet anyone (post/pre op) as long as mutual attraction and good chat is there of course as that’s no fun for either party and for Mr he is straight, comfortable around anyone but he knows he only gets turned on by women so would only meet those post op, but we are fairly open so if there was a lady I was attracted to but pre op then I’d have the opportunity to meet singly if that’s what they wanted aswell xx
We personally don’t understand why people try and make tv/ts/cd etc a secret they are people and for us they are personally some of the best people to chat and have a laugh with never mind anything sexual. It’s why we attend Chameleon Newport on a Saturday because it is singly the most comfortable and friendliest atmosphere compared to any club we’ve been too
I think Kylie (further up the thread) said it best.
For a number of men we are a dirty secret they don't want getting out.
They enjoy sex and more with TV/trans girls but due to societal pressure they are ashamed of that enjoyment.
For me, I want to meet people who enjoy me as a whole not just a hole.
Exactly, I don’t blame them necessarily (these guys) as some were really gentlemen and really really nice and kind to me….but I do blame society and social pressure for creating this. I’m pointing at everyone who also accuses these men to not really be straight and that they should be honest on how they identify themselves … it creates doubt, And it messes with people heads resulting with getting put in the … dirty secret box
Now and again you have the guy who won’t give a shit and they hold our hands no problem in public , but those are hard to find.
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 . But I wanted to be sure that it wasn’t just a porn thing. Definitely did not want to bum out someone’s evening by finding out that fantasy didn’t turn into reality.
But when I did first go to a trans club it was a revelation. If you’re a guy who wants to take the next step, I’d recommend it as a good first experience, as everyone is very relaxed. You’ll soon find out if you want to for further. Hey, you might even meet the love of your life! | |||
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"I don't see trans women as something to fetishize. nor "owned up to". I'm happy to state that I've dated two trans women, was in a relationship with one for some months. Trans women are women. I've had casual fun with female presenting people who live much of the time in male mode. I don't really like to label them but they identified as T-girl." Yes this is what I like to hear, I’m so glad you were open and proud to have dated two women (who happened to be transgender) | |||
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" Yes this is what I like to hear, I’m so glad you were open and proud to have dated two women (who happened to be transgender) "That's just how I see it. Still good friends with the one I dated for several months. | |||
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"So own up guys who’s done it who loves it!? Who’s got the girls to recommend! " Does fucking a tv make you gay? | |||
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"So own up guys who’s done it who loves it!? Who’s got the girls to recommend! Does fucking a tv make you gay?" depends where you stick the remote! What a way to get thrown out of Hugh's | |||
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"We would rather meet a TV than a bi single male. In our experience TV/TS take great care of their appearance and are great fun to play with." I don't know why but I have an immediate urge to drive all the way to Alloa! | |||
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"So own up guys who’s done it who loves it!? Who’s got the girls to recommend! Thats a bit like asking what tea do you drink
Its a question of personal taste and attraction the same as with all girls.
My sexual connection came out of an intense mental connection.
Open your mind first, your mouth second and your trousers last
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"Never a TV or CD as usually when the makeup and wig comes off not a pretty sight. Like to know what I am truly getting." I'm hugely into transvestites. Much more than men. Once in a club (PP), a TV who I'd known for yonks, invited me back to their hotel room. Lots of hot sex followed. I was invited to stay over. The next morning, the TV asked if I was ok with them removing wig, makeup and female clothes. Sure. Wow! a really hot guy. More hot sex. That was a surprise. Jolly nice too. They later transitioned and had SRS, a few years ago. Which leads me onto my fav joke (though I often get punched in the arm for it!) Q. What is the difference between a Transvestite & a Transsexual? A. About two and have years! | |||
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"There lies one of the major differences between TS AND TV !!!" A cock | |||
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