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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!" I agree Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic" Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening | |||
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"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? " It just tells me that like most.... They work for a living! | |||
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"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? " I made a thread on this a couple of weeks ago. Got so many different answers. Here are some of them... Some saying it's because of ego and like to elevate themselves on here above others. Might be a nurse or a copper etc. Make themselves feel better and validate them being on this site. Some with a high end job. Etc. | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! I agree Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic" Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening " There are a few professions that have strict rules in their work contracts about public identity. They can share a face pic privately but obviously not good to have it plastered on here next to nude body parts. Many just use it as an excuse so they can just perve other pics anonymously. | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!" We see it exactly the same as this. | |||
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"Perhaps they mean they charge for sex " | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! I agree Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic" Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening " Haha in certain countries my face is actually recognised and I’m well known. Even my Facebook is a privileged account. It only has one name. So like Cher, Adele, & Bono, on Facebook, I go by just one name. I’ve got more of a reason to hide than most. However, I’ve always been a rebel haha | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!" Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications. | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications." Exactly this | |||
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"Maybe looking for others with a similar mindset, separating the elite from the chav. "Being a working class person who isn't classed as "professional", doesn't make that person a "chav". | |||
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"Maybe looking for others with a similar mindset, separating the elite from the chav.
Being a working class person who isn't classed as "professional", doesn't make that person a "chav"."I'm a mixture of the 2 along with other things | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications." This. | |||
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"I work with some unbelievably clever and highly skilled people who would fall into the category of professional people but the one thing about them is that they wouldn't ever describe themselves as professional, it would be seen as quite conceited and dare I sat it amateurish. I think it's mostly used by those who wish to elevate themselves above others where they wouldn't actually stand out normally in a sea of similar people to themselves. Am I a professional? You bet your life I am in the field I am in. Would I ever describe myself as that....not a damn chance." Exactly, lad who used to work us said his father who organised the lord lieutenant of the counties diary said if you are somebody you dont need to keep telling people. I knew a old guy who bought a new top of the range bmw every two years but walked around in old clothes and looked down and out | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! I agree Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic" Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening Haha in certain countries my face is actually recognised and I’m well known. Even my Facebook is a privileged account. It only has one name. So like Cher, Adele, & Bono, on Facebook, I go by just one name. I’ve got more of a reason to hide than most. However, I’ve always been a rebel haha" Your not the better looking half of the chuckle brothers are you | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! I agree Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic" Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening Haha in certain countries my face is actually recognised and I’m well known. Even my Facebook is a privileged account. It only has one name. So like Cher, Adele, & Bono, on Facebook, I go by just one name. I’ve got more of a reason to hide than most. However, I’ve always been a rebel haha Your not the better looking half of the chuckle brothers are you "Well one of them is dead | |||
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"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? " Personally I'm not really bothered if people do or don't put professional on their profiles, it's just a word they choose to discribe themselves I don't think they have any malicious intent in choosing to use it. | |||
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"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? Personally I'm not really bothered if people do or don't put professional on their profiles, it's just a word they choose to discribe themselves I don't think they have any malicious intent in choosing to use it." We're not bothered too although it just makes us wonder why. We don't really care if someone's bricklayer, prime minister or unemployed as long as that person is respectful and have a lot of things in common with us. You can wear designer clothes or work uniform but idea of this website is that we'll end up naked so it makes no difference after all  | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications." You comparing a profession with Swinging, no comparison. Doctors etc earn their profession, they don't self proclaim it. | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! I agree Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic" Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening Haha in certain countries my face is actually recognised and I’m well known. Even my Facebook is a privileged account. It only has one name. So like Cher, Adele, & Bono, on Facebook, I go by just one name. I’ve got more of a reason to hide than most. However, I’ve always been a rebel haha Your not the better looking half of the chuckle brothers are you "Nope  | |||
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"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here. We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging..." If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification 
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"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here. We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging... If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification
Could I get a masters in swinging instead? "Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses... | |||
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"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here. We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging... If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification
Could I get a masters in swinging instead?
Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses..."Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon? | |||
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"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here. We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging... If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification
Could I get a masters in swinging instead?
Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...
Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?"Now that is what we're professionals at! | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications." What are the years of training and accepted qualifications relevant to swinging? | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications. What are the years of training and accepted qualifications relevant to swinging? " Exactly our point! | |||
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"Maybe wanting more conversation than universal credit ?" . That’s very low ............. Lots of people on universal credit at the moment .. for reasons beyond their control.. even professionals .... | |||
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"I think it's a polite way of saying there is a standard of people they would like to meet, " This | |||
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"Maybe wanting more conversation than universal credit ?. That’s very low ............. Lots of people on universal credit at the moment .. for reasons beyond their control.. even professionals .... " I agree with you guys on this, the same as I am a "proffesional" IT network systems administrator that is now on universal credit because I chose to give up my career to become an "unpaid" carer for my mother because that was more important to me than my carer. | |||
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"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here. We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging... If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification
Could I get a masters in swinging instead?
Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...
Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?
Now that is what we're professionals at!"Noooooo!!! You’ve mentioned being the P word. Have to block you now  | |||
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"Maybe wanting more conversation than universal credit ?" Please tell us what is wrong with people on Universal Credit. When you've done that, please also tell us what makes all people on Universal Credit exactly the same that you can judge them as a homogenous mass. | |||
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"Maybe looking for others with a similar mindset, separating the elite from the chav.
Being a working class person who isn't classed as "professional", doesn't make that person a "chav".
I'm a mixture of the 2 along with other things "Is wearing Redbok classics one of them ? | |||
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Many do because they feel word they feel sets them apart from others to gain an advantage.
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"Maybe wanting more conversation than universal credit ? Please tell us what is wrong with people on Universal Credit. When you've done that, please also tell us what makes all people on Universal Credit exactly the same that you can judge them as a homogenous mass. " . There is nothing wrong with people on Universal Credit.Plenty of them are employed on zero hours contracts or under 16 hours.Also some are claiming it for housing or children as now there is no housing benefits or tax credits for new claimants | |||
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"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here. We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging... If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification
Could I get a masters in swinging instead?
Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...
Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?
Now that is what we're professionals at!
Noooooo!!! You’ve mentioned being the P word. Have to block you now "Ah but we have a qualification in that and it's not self proclaimed! | |||
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"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here. We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging... If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification
Could I get a masters in swinging instead?
Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...
Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?
Now that is what we're professionals at!
Noooooo!!! You’ve mentioned being the P word. Have to block you now
Ah but we have a qualification in that and it's not self proclaimed!"*ahem* “Now that is what we're professionals at!” | |||
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"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here. We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging... If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification
Could I get a masters in swinging instead?
Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...
Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?
Now that is what we're professionals at!
Noooooo!!! You’ve mentioned being the P word. Have to block you now
Ah but we have a qualification in that and it's not self proclaimed!
*ahem* “Now that is what we're professionals at!”"Well, we're not professional grammar police members that's for sure! | |||
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"Puts me off. I think I'm far too common and poor being a humble waitress to breathe the same air kinda vibe. Can't go places that cost what I feel they'd consider loose change and all that shizzle. But, I support myself financially, well, I scrape by at best and that's how it is. I don't necessarily feel they'd judge me as such, but the point they feel they need to express their professional status on their profile, I go into "I'm lesser than" mode, even though I don't believe I'm less than on the inside... not in the slightest." The fact they felt the need to put it on their profile would suggest pretty clearly to me that they *are* making judgements based on exactly that. Ugh. I *hate* the idea that someone's worth as a person is somehow dictated by how much money they earn. You've also touched on an important and unspoken power imbalance – privileged people unthinkingly toss around sums of money that in themselves are exclusionary to those of us who are less fortunate. | |||
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"Puts me off. I think I'm far too common and poor being a humble waitress to breathe the same air kinda vibe. Can't go places that cost what I feel they'd consider loose change and all that shizzle. But, I support myself financially, well, I scrape by at best and that's how it is. I don't necessarily feel they'd judge me as such, but the point they feel they need to express their professional status on their profile, I go into "I'm lesser than" mode, even though I don't believe I'm less than on the inside... not in the slightest. The fact they felt the need to put it on their profile would suggest pretty clearly to me that they *are* making judgements based on exactly that. Ugh. I *hate* the idea that someone's worth as a person is somehow dictated by how much money they earn. You've also touched on an important and unspoken power imbalance – privileged people unthinkingly toss around sums of money that in themselves are exclusionary to those of us who are less fortunate. " They might not be judging me tho, their ideal night out and meet may be at a swanky posh place. I don't meet the criteria of it being in my pay grade and that's just that. They could think I'm one pretty cool mofo, but just not meet criteria and I'm ok with that. | |||
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"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here. We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging... If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification
Could I get a masters in swinging instead?
Maybe, I hear Sydney University are starting courses...
Could I also get a minor in the mating habits of a raccoon?
Now that is what we're professionals at!
Noooooo!!! You’ve mentioned being the P word. Have to block you now
Ah but we have a qualification in that and it's not self proclaimed!
*ahem* “Now that is what we're professionals at!”
Well, we're not professional grammar police members that's for sure!"Haha and we love you for it  | |||
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"Puts me off. I think I'm far too common and poor being a humble waitress to breathe the same air kinda vibe. Can't go places that cost what I feel they'd consider loose change and all that shizzle. But, I support myself financially, well, I scrape by at best and that's how it is. I don't necessarily feel they'd judge me as such, but the point they feel they need to express their professional status on their profile, I go into "I'm lesser than" mode, even though I don't believe I'm less than on the inside... not in the slightest. The fact they felt the need to put it on their profile would suggest pretty clearly to me that they *are* making judgements based on exactly that. Ugh. I *hate* the idea that someone's worth as a person is somehow dictated by how much money they earn. You've also touched on an important and unspoken power imbalance – privileged people unthinkingly toss around sums of money that in themselves are exclusionary to those of us who are less fortunate. They might not be judging me tho, their ideal night out and meet may be at a swanky posh place. I don't meet the criteria of it being in my pay grade and that's just that. They could think I'm one pretty cool mofo, but just not meet criteria and I'm ok with that. " If they like you that much, and they're loaded enough for the swanky posh place, they can damn well buy your dinner and drinks! | |||
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"There is a large spectrum of people on fab. We use the term to describe the type of people we are. If people are offended by it that is their problem. We like meeting a similar class of person to ourselves x Mrs N" Well, at least you're open about it being class-based discrimination. | |||
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"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? " It doesn't phase me either way but at least spell it correctly if you're going to put it on there | |||
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"Well in sport, you're an amateur until you get paid for it when you turn professional. So I'm guessing on Fab, those of that are doing it for the fun are matures and those that all themselves professional are charging for it " | |||
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"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? It doesn't phase me either way but at least spell it correctly if you're going to put it on there "If you're going to publicly pull someone else up on their spelling, at least get the "phase / faze" thing right. Sure, they're homophonous, but they're not the same word. | |||
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"For us its our way of saying why we have no face pics open for all to see!! We dont fancy everyone at work knowing were swingers!! Were in jobs where it could be frowned upon! Were more than happy to send pics to people were chatting with x" In what jobs is swinging not frowned up? | |||
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"In the context of Swinging, we think it’s a Status thing. An indirect way of saying we only want to fuck people who have that certain standard of living and not people who live in a rough ass council estate. However, it’s the person that matters. We’ve been around the people who strut about clubs with their designer possessions looking for other supposedly perfect beautiful couples and they’ve been assholes. We’ve also been around people who are a bit rough about the edges and they’ve been assholes. As long as people are not assholes then we don’t care if they live in a 5 Bedroom detached house or a 2 bedroom rented property. Professional means nothing in the swinging world. Long may it continue Xxxxxxx" Were professional people and live on a council estate, thats defo not what it means for us | |||
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Many people are professionals for many different reasons. I put mine on cos I used to get shitstom and accused of BS etc etc, so it was a case of if you want to take a swipe at me bring in on That's why I chose to advertise the fact.
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"Is says more about the people it annoys than the people stating it on their profile R" | |||
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"In the context of Swinging, we think it’s a Status thing. An indirect way of saying we only want to fuck people who have that certain standard of living and not people who live in a rough ass council estate. However, it’s the person that matters. We’ve been around the people who strut about clubs with their designer possessions looking for other supposedly perfect beautiful couples and they’ve been assholes. We’ve also been around people who are a bit rough about the edges and they’ve been assholes. As long as people are not assholes then we don’t care if they live in a 5 Bedroom detached house or a 2 bedroom rented property. Professional means nothing in the swinging world. Long may it continue Xxxxxxx Were professional people and live on a council estate, thats defo not what it means for us "After having a cuppa with you, I’d never have guessed you was a professional couple! Should I have left the money on the nightstand? If anyone hears about a missing sausage on the news......give the police this message haha | |||
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"In the context of Swinging, we think it’s a Status thing. An indirect way of saying we only want to fuck people who have that certain standard of living and not people who live in a rough ass council estate. However, it’s the person that matters. We’ve been around the people who strut about clubs with their designer possessions looking for other supposedly perfect beautiful couples and they’ve been assholes. We’ve also been around people who are a bit rough about the edges and they’ve been assholes. As long as people are not assholes then we don’t care if they live in a 5 Bedroom detached house or a 2 bedroom rented property. Professional means nothing in the swinging world. Long may it continue Xxxxxxx Were professional people and live on a council estate, thats defo not what it means for us
After having a cuppa with you, I’d never have guessed you was a professional couple! Should I have left the money on the nightstand?
If anyone hears about a missing sausage on the news......give the police this message haha"Exactly why people shouldn't judge "professional people as stuck up their own arses or thinking they're above others!! You know us and we're far from that we're both down to earth people who as long as people respect us we respect others regardless of status!! Im sorry I don't fancy all of oldham knowing who we are or work, and seeing my fanny!!  | |||
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"In the context of Swinging, we think it’s a Status thing. An indirect way of saying we only want to fuck people who have that certain standard of living and not people who live in a rough ass council estate. However, it’s the person that matters. We’ve been around the people who strut about clubs with their designer possessions looking for other supposedly perfect beautiful couples and they’ve been assholes. We’ve also been around people who are a bit rough about the edges and they’ve been assholes. As long as people are not assholes then we don’t care if they live in a 5 Bedroom detached house or a 2 bedroom rented property. Professional means nothing in the swinging world. Long may it continue Xxxxxxx Were professional people and live on a council estate, thats defo not what it means for us
After having a cuppa with you, I’d never have guessed you was a professional couple! Should I have left the money on the nightstand?
If anyone hears about a missing sausage on the news......give the police this message haha
Exactly why people shouldn't judge "professional people as stuck up their own arses or thinking they're above others!!
You know us and we're far from that we're both down to earth people who as long as people respect us we respect others regardless of status!!
Im sorry I don't fancy all of oldham knowing who we are or work, and seeing my fanny!! "Nope I agree, you two are some of the most down to earth, genuine people I’ve ever met on fab x | |||
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"In the context of Swinging, we think it’s a Status thing. An indirect way of saying we only want to fuck people who have that certain standard of living and not people who live in a rough ass council estate. However, it’s the person that matters. We’ve been around the people who strut about clubs with their designer possessions looking for other supposedly perfect beautiful couples and they’ve been assholes. We’ve also been around people who are a bit rough about the edges and they’ve been assholes. As long as people are not assholes then we don’t care if they live in a 5 Bedroom detached house or a 2 bedroom rented property. Professional means nothing in the swinging world. Long may it continue Xxxxxxx Were professional people and live on a council estate, thats defo not what it means for us
After having a cuppa with you, I’d never have guessed you was a professional couple! Should I have left the money on the nightstand?
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Exactly why people shouldn't judge "professional people as stuck up their own arses or thinking they're above others!!
You know us and we're far from that we're both down to earth people who as long as people respect us we respect others regardless of status!!
Im sorry I don't fancy all of oldham knowing who we are or work, and seeing my fanny!!
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"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? " I'd assumed it was about either suggestion that they would appreciate some discretion or that they were aiming to swing with in a particular socio-economic group. No swingers on less than £50k.
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"Lol this forum triggered a lot people, but in reality no ones going to put unprofessional lol i think it’s to make themselves sound a little fancy lool but to me it doesn’t mean nothing, you could be a professional knob head for all we know lol" What's the pay rate for being a professional knobhead? Does it have a good bonus scheme? | |||
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"There is a large spectrum of people on fab. We use the term to describe the type of people we are. If people are offended by it that is their problem. We like meeting a similar class of person to ourselves x Mrs N" So you're a better class of person than a non-professional? | |||
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"We came across many people describing themselves as professionals. We don't really know why is it so important to mention such things on swingers website. What's your thoughts about it? It doesn't phase me either way but at least spell it correctly if you're going to put it on there
If you're going to publicly pull someone else up on their spelling, at least get the "phase / faze" thing right. Sure, they're homophonous, but they're not the same word. "I haven't publicly pulled anyone up. There was no naming and shaming of any profile names. | |||
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"I have had messages from ‘professionals’ who cannot spell or even form a sentence. Lol" Yes had this too. Fortunately, I don't claim to be one although it's one of the few words I can spell | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!" Yes, that’s pretty much a good indicator sometimes. It’s also amusing that they sometimes describe themselves as a ‘professional couple’ which makes me wonder if some of us must be just ‘amateur couples’ and don’t get paid for being in a relationship lol | |||
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"Next time someone says to us I'm a professional, I'll ask Professional what? "Exactly Crime is a profession for some A lucrative one at that | |||
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"It's interesting, and quite telling, that the anti-professional brigade on this thread are far more judgemental, critical, aggressive, and in some cases nastier, than the professionals. Perhaps that is the real difference between them." Ah yes, the "So much for the tolerant left" / "NO U" / "Maybe if you were nicer, the police wouldn't murder you" / "Anti-racists are the real racists" argument. Yuck. 1. Privileged people do a problematic thing. 2. Less-privileged people point out that it's problematic. 3. Privileged people call the less-privileged people "nasty" and assume a particularly smug and self-satisfied air. Go on, say "politics of envy" next. | |||
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"For us its our way of saying why we have no face pics open for all to see!! We dont fancy everyone at work knowing were swingers!! Were in jobs where it could be frowned upon! Were more than happy to send pics to people were chatting with x In what jobs is swinging not frowned up? " Swingers club staff, escorting, porn, sex shops and of course the circus in case of trapeze artists | |||
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"Personally, I've never understood the need to claim being a professional person or couple. " Yes I’m sure there’s plenty of folks that could be classed as professional or ex professional and never even consider it to be relevant. Ourselves included. | |||
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"It's interesting, and quite telling, that the anti-professional brigade on this thread are far more judgemental, critical, aggressive, and in some cases nastier, than the professionals. Perhaps that is the real difference between them. Ah yes, the "So much for the tolerant left" / "NO U" / "Maybe if you were nicer, the police wouldn't murder you" / "Anti-racists are the real racists" argument. Yuck. 1. Privileged people do a problematic thing. 2. Less-privileged people point out that it's problematic. 3. Privileged people call the less-privileged people "nasty" and assume a particularly smug and self-satisfied air. Go on, say "politics of envy" next. " Wow! | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications." I would add accreditation to the professional body their discipline is in. E.g. chartered accountants, chartered Engineer etc. I suspect the majority are not professional. Perhaps skilled in their discipline, yes. May have a degree or qualification and some letters behind the name, yes. But certainly not "professional". | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications. I would add accreditation to the professional body their discipline is in. E.g. chartered accountants, chartered Engineer etc. I suspect the majority are not professional. Perhaps skilled in their discipline, yes. May have a degree or qualification and some letters behind the name, yes. But certainly not "professional". "I have 2 M’s and a C but my names not Bodie or Doyle | |||
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There’s nothing professional about being on here. More like unprofessional and informal, so no need to describe yourself as such, unless you’re looking to date and a relationship.
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"It is funny how some people want to put their cv up. It’s also funny how some people bring politics into their usernames or profiles. And yes. Some do discriminate based on your education and job. Then again, there are some folks who want “classy” people only. I’ve seen one profile where this person is so hung up on the word classy. As for those who are discrete... they need to get a life. They make out as if you know their family and friends and will shout from the rooftops that you slept with them. I don’t think the person who knows you and has seen you on here will go ahead and expose themselves to say they’ve seen you on here. Even if you’re a visitor in their city or they are in yours, they still say they can’t show you a photo as if a visitor will know who you or your loved ones are!!
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"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL A professional in wat Deffo not sex They are all up their own arses They cannot provide a face piccy Which is wat i always make sure At least u can see who ur talking to first. But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u But fobt have a face piccy BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD professional or not Im not into gloaters If it relates to their jobs If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy Then why the fuck they on here " Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds. | |||
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"It is an irrelevant statement, one glance at someone's profile pic and you know if you are dealing with a low or high income family. I for one will always avoid swingers with unmatched bed linen, untidy houses, dvd collections on display. " Unmatched bed linen! Heathens!! | |||
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"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL A professional in wat Deffo not sex They are all up their own arses They cannot provide a face piccy Which is wat i always make sure At least u can see who ur talking to first. But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u But fobt have a face piccy BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD professional or not Im not into gloaters If it relates to their jobs If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy Then why the fuck they on here Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds." Or they might be a total genius, leagues ahead of you intellectually, who happens to be dyslexic, or communicating in a non-native language. Also, your post has a comma splice in it, so think twice about picking other people up on their grammar. | |||
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"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL A professional in wat Deffo not sex They are all up their own arses They cannot provide a face piccy Which is wat i always make sure At least u can see who ur talking to first. But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u But fobt have a face piccy BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD professional or not Im not into gloaters If it relates to their jobs If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy Then why the fuck they on here Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds. Or they might be a total genius, leagues ahead of you intellectually, who happens to be dyslexic, or communicating in a non-native language. Also, your post has a comma splice in it, so think twice about picking other people up on their grammar. " Boom. | |||
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"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL A professional in wat Deffo not sex They are all up their own arses They cannot provide a face piccy Which is wat i always make sure At least u can see who ur talking to first. But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u But fobt have a face piccy BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD professional or not Im not into gloaters If it relates to their jobs If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy Then why the fuck they on here Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds." I can imagine you going around clubs asking them how their grammar is before inviting them for a shag | |||
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"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL A professional in wat Deffo not sex They are all up their own arses They cannot provide a face piccy Which is wat i always make sure At least u can see who ur talking to first. But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u But fobt have a face piccy BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD professional or not Im not into gloaters If it relates to their jobs If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy Then why the fuck they on here Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds. I can imagine you going around clubs asking them how their grammar is before inviting them for a shag ""Ugh! That nymphomaniac porn star, who wants it, ended a sentence with a preposition! My boner – it wilts!" *Shakespearean faint* | |||
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"There isn't much more snobbery that self proclaiming to a be a "professional" on here. We know it's probably not the case for everyone that uses that term, but personally we just find it to be off putting...or maybe we should just get a B-tech in Swinging... If they did those I’d be signing up!!! Although, if you’ve already got a degree, they don’t usually allow you to get a lesser weighted qualification
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"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL A professional in wat Deffo not sex They are all up their own arses They cannot provide a face piccy Which is wat i always make sure At least u can see who ur talking to first. But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u But fobt have a face piccy BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD professional or not Im not into gloaters If it relates to their jobs If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy Then why the fuck they on here Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds. I can imagine you going around clubs asking them how their grammar is before inviting them for a shag "I will know when they open their mouth.....a South Yorkshire accent would be very off putting | |||
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"There is nothing so off putting wen fellas say they are a PROFESSIONAL A professional in wat Deffo not sex They are all up their own arses They cannot provide a face piccy Which is wat i always make sure At least u can see who ur talking to first. But nowt worse if peooke msg u asking to meet u But fobt have a face piccy BUT SEND A DICK PICCY INSTEAD Ok if u want me to talk to a DICKHEAD professional or not Im not into gloaters If it relates to their jobs If thats the case they cant provide a face piccy Then why the fuck they on here Your grammar would put me right off, it would not be a meeting of minds. Or they might be a total genius, leagues ahead of you intellectually, who happens to be dyslexic, or communicating in a non-native language. Also, your post has a comma splice in it, so think twice about picking other people up on their grammar. " At least I made a reasonable attempt at written English. | |||
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"I am a professional and for me it’s means I’m educated. Up there own ass! Should be up their own ass! I do make spelling and grammatical errors but only when my auto correct thingy decides I shouldn’t be able to spell properly. Yes I do have standards and I am discreet as opposed to many who proclaim and declare that they are discrete. In my final analysis potato pot at to . " But you are not declaring yourself as professional on your profile so it wouldn't matter as this debate is aimed at people self claiming that they are professional in terms of swinging etc. | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense!" This. | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! I agree Really grinds my gears when someone uses "I'm a professional so I can't send you a face pic" Erm so you expect me to want to meet a faceless man because he thinks he has a better job than me? Definitely not happening " Entirely this! | |||
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"Your very welcome Nayb read ur msg u left from my comment then luv " It's called a joke? No need to be abusive. | |||
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"The definition is "A person competent or skilled in a particular activity. But a professional is more than a dictionary definition. ... It places a strong emphasis on the integrity and competence of its members, and therefore requires them to conduct themselves in accordance with a Code of Conduct." So really looking at lawyers, doctors, nurses etc... However, aot of people who have a certain education standard (degree) also tend to class themselves as "Professional"... "This is accurate. Code of conduct is a key thing and you can be struck off the professional bodies or associations you’re in. So you basically want to be a little more discrete is all. | |||
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"Just to make our opinion clear, nothing wrong with being a professional as in having a profession (career etc) but it's when the term is used in terms of swinging is what makes it sound incredibly pretentious. " Agree totally, incredibly pretentious. Would not say whether we have letters after our names or not, and whether or not we have the protection of money that being professional brings, but we cannot for the life of us see why people think it makes them more appealing than others on a site like this. We have met some very educated and beautiful on the inside manual workers, and we have met plenty of arsehole 'professional' people. It clearly shows the sad state of the world if people think that being professional makes any person think that they are better than another. | |||
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"I think professional means they been to school, have a qualification which requires registration to practice like accounting, teaching ,nursing etc People working behind Asda counter may not be classed as professional but workers. May be because of this some people hate that word . Most registration bodies require a certain conduct from their members , any breach may result in being suspended or striking off puting and end to their practice. Hence the discretion . Nothing to get offended ,it just means they have more qualifications than some and may be successful in their lives . " Don’t think anyone is offended ! Well I’m not anyway ! How do you know there not unemployed? Someone that works in asda has as much to loose as you say someone with a better education and job if there conversation on here becomes known ! Your well wrote out comment sounds impressive but the bottom line is simple People that throw out that word are obviously not educated! Smart people should know better | |||
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"I think professional means they been to school, have a qualification which requires registration to practice like accounting, teaching ,nursing etc People working behind Asda counter may not be classed as professional but workers. May be because of this some people hate that word . Most registration bodies require a certain conduct from their members , any breach may result in being suspended or striking off puting and end to their practice. Hence the discretion . Nothing to get offended ,it just means they have more qualifications than some and may be successful in their lives . Don’t think anyone is offended ! Well I’m not anyway ! How do you know there not unemployed? Someone that works in asda has as much to loose as you say someone with a better education and job if there conversation on here becomes known ! Your well wrote out comment sounds impressive but the bottom line is simple People that throw out that word are obviously not educated! Smart people should know better " I can see the resentment in your post but honestly I personally don't care about being professional or unemployed. As long as they have a good personality,kind at heart then we would meet them . Answer to your question Have you ever read that doctors or lawyers are unemployed? But people working in high street are made redundant . That's the difference here we are talking about . | |||
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"I think professional means they been to school, have a qualification which requires registration to practice like accounting, teaching ,nursing etc People working behind Asda counter may not be classed as professional but workers. May be because of this some people hate that word . Most registration bodies require a certain conduct from their members , any breach may result in being suspended or striking off puting and end to their practice. Hence the discretion . Nothing to get offended ,it just means they have more qualifications than some and may be successful in their lives . Don’t think anyone is offended ! Well I’m not anyway ! How do you know there not unemployed? Someone that works in asda has as much to loose as you say someone with a better education and job if there conversation on here becomes known ! Your well wrote out comment sounds impressive but the bottom line is simple People that throw out that word are obviously not educated! Smart people should know better I can see the resentment in your post but honestly I personally don't care about being professional or unemployed. As long as they have a good personality,kind at heart then we would meet them . Answer to your question Have you ever read that doctors or lawyers are unemployed? But people working in high street are made redundant . That's the difference here we are talking about . " You started off well ! And no I’ve no resentment towards you I’m not here especially on threads to push my opinion on anyone ! I can see it wouldn’t work on you anyway I’m gonna take the first part of your comment cause I really respect that and we leave it there !
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"I think professional means they been to school, have a qualification which requires registration to practice like accounting, teaching ,nursing etc People working behind Asda counter may not be classed as professional but workers. May be because of this some people hate that word . Most registration bodies require a certain conduct from their members , any breach may result in being suspended or striking off puting and end to their practice. Hence the discretion . Nothing to get offended ,it just means they have more qualifications than some and may be successful in their lives . " That last sentence sounds a bit crappy. What counts as success? If someone has a menial job that pays the bills, has enough free time to spend quality time with those they want to, is surrounded by family and friends and has inner peace are they less successful than someone with a professional status with ot without same inner peace etc? Success to me has fuck all to do with status and everything to do with how content you are. | |||
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"Puts me off. I think I'm far too common and poor being a humble waitress to breathe the same air kinda vibe. Can't go places that cost what I feel they'd consider loose change and all that shizzle. But, I support myself financially, well, I scrape by at best and that's how it is. I don't necessarily feel they'd judge me as such, but the point they feel they need to express their professional status on their profile, I go into "I'm lesser than" mode, even though I don't believe I'm less than on the inside... not in the slightest." Why does everyone think being a ‘professional’ means you are solvent, only dine in the best places (subjective) and live the dream. This sounds like a class issue - Britain hasn’t changed much then. | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! Interesting. Next time you need a doctor, dentist or lawyer, perhaps go to your mate round the corner because professionals are up their own ass. Personally I prefer to go to someone with years of training and with accepted qualifications. Just the same as always .. fab is a personal thing .. and swingers respect that .......or should .. This and.... When you go to your doctor dentist or lawyer and you recognise they're 'face' from fab.... How much are you going to be respecting/listening to their advice and how much are you going to be thinking about what their tits/arse/dick/handcuffs look like?" | |||
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"We seen it as someone being up there own ass! Self proclaimed nonsense! Mmmmmmm...... Different types of people one Builder who hoovers the floor turn up on time get rid of all waste make sure what can be recycled is recycled (professional) the other Builder leaves bricks in your garden and dumped his s*** in the local park We see professionals as responsible people not £100k banker lawyer they can be equally unprofessional as the cowboy Builder. " of the replies posted , this sums things up for me too
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"This thread has been very useful. Thanks OP. It has revealed a lot of opinionated, judgemental, aggressive, narrow minded people that we, and probably others, will do everything we can to avoid. Anyone who gets so upset, antagonistic and angry over a single word in a profile clearly isn't for us." Clearly not ! You can’t agree on everything | |||
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"I for one, am quite disappointed in this thread. Here I am, donning a curly wig, 70's flares, an unbuttoned shirt and a chest wig, with a St Christopher on show. The 3ltr S Capri is outside and ready to infiltrate any terrorist lairs I can find. But, alas, we're talking about people getting paid to do a job. When will people learn that The Professionals are a highly trained organisation, secret civil service, that is broadcast on ITV2 twice daily (and repeated the next day). Come on people, get your facts straight "There basically Liam Neason in the film taken ! They have a certain set of skills ! Obviously we don’t unfortunately | |||
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"Puts me off. I think I'm far too common and poor being a humble waitress to breathe the same air kinda vibe. Can't go places that cost what I feel they'd consider loose change and all that shizzle. But, I support myself financially, well, I scrape by at best and that's how it is. I don't necessarily feel they'd judge me as such, but the point they feel they need to express their professional status on their profile, I go into "I'm lesser than" mode, even though I don't believe I'm less than on the inside... not in the slightest. Why does everyone think being a ‘professional’ means you are solvent, only dine in the best places (subjective) and live the dream. This sounds like a class issue - Britain hasn’t changed much then. " Because the only difference I can see between myself and a professional is the pay grade. I work my arse off to a high standard. I'm fucking awesome at my job. I put my heart and soul, blood sweat and tears into it. I'm no less committed and have been in my current workplace over a decade. I'm human. I'm flawed. I have insecurities about myself and my life. When I see what I'm not (whatever said positive label may be) I do feel substandard in a lot of ways. That's no disrespect to anyone at all, it simply stems from years of berating from caregivers and "loved ones" and love and care being conditional. Not everything comes from a nasty place or is a slight on others, I many cases, like mine, it's slights on ourselves from where we've been made to think/feel unworthy over the years. | |||
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