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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this. |
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"But with some jobs, it could bring a negative impact on the place you work. Some jobs, your behavour outside of that job, is still a refection on your occupation and workplace."
This will be in a lot of contracts and loads of people have fallen foul of social media antics and lost their jobs....its all about brand reputation. |
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By *rder66Man
over a year ago
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"But with some jobs, it could bring a negative impact on the place you work. Some jobs, your behavour outside of that job, is still a refection on your occupation and workplace.
This will be in a lot of contracts and loads of people have fallen foul of social media antics and lost their jobs....its all about brand reputation. "
I think it's also to do with people's miss-understanding of 'swinging' or having an open attidute to sex.
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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago
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From experience I have found that the less one's colleagues (aka partners or associates) know about your personal life the better.
Swinging is regarded by many people in Ireland, (still a traditional moralistic country) as morally reprehensible, but it is changing.
There is a lot of dysfunctionality within workplaces, particularly malignantly narcissistic behaviours; one is there to fulfill a role at maximum efficiency.
One can go through the normal pleasantries to facilitate a wholly work-related relationship with other employees but it is best not to provide them with any ancillary information about one's personal life.
To quote Winston Churchill when a fellow MP pointed across the House of Commons to the enemy.
Churchill retorted by telling him that it was the opposition who were facing them, and that the enemy were sitting behind them, waiting for any opportunity to stab them in the back! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this."
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
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Has anyone every lost thier job due to swinging? Genuinely curious x"
I am very curious about this too. If you really think swinging is against your company policy then you should stop doing it or change jobs. You cant have it all unfortunatly. |
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
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Agreed,but how would they know unless they were on the same sites? |
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
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No way, companies would not get away with that these days.
Obviously it normally wouldn't be sensible to shout about your lifestyle from the rooftops, but so long as you've not associated your employer with your bookface opinions they can't pry into your private life.
Spending the day at VA's milf club when you should have been working is a different kettle of fish however. |
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over a year ago
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Nurses and doctors can lose their jobs even for traffic violations .
Also , it would be silly to lose your reputation just for having sex with others .
Best to keep it separate. |
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It's the fallout....ie...if u were a secondary school teacher...the students would have a field day, your whole life would be negatively affected...another a doctor... how could anyone ever feel comfortable with you examining them again. ...people can be very black and white...sadly |
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this."
Maybe their spouse is their partner or boss, and is unaware.
A friend of mine was messaged recently by a local man. He reeled off a list of other locals on here, their username, pics, where they work, marital status. These were people he’d chatted to, and thought it was his place to tell others. Everyone is entitled to their anonymity on here, should they wish to show their faces publicly, it’s their choice. Just bugs me when this particular man had on his profile about how he was discreet, obviously not! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I could definitely lose my job if I posted anything which was identifiable as me"
But you couldnt as its not illegal to have sex with others. Otvwoukd never stand in court as dismissal same as doctors and nurses cannot get sacked. If anyone really thinks it goes against company policy they should either stop doing it or change jobs. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
Agreed,but how would they know unless they were on the same sites?"
I was a teacher. If a parent or ex pupil had recognised and reported me, I would have been summarily dismissed. |
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No way, companies would not get away with that these days.
Obviously it normally wouldn't be sensible to shout about your lifestyle from the rooftops, but so long as you've not associated your employer with your bookface opinions they can't pry into your private life.
Spending the day at VA's milf club when you should have been working is a different kettle of fish however. "
No they're unlikely to fire you "because swinging". But they can terminate your contract at any time for any/no reason so long as they abide by the termination clauses (letting you work a notice period or paying you in lieu of it) and don't discriminate against a protected characteristic.
Your contract is only as long as your notice period. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
Agreed,but how would they know unless they were on the same sites?
I was a teacher. If a parent or ex pupil had recognised and reported me, I would have been summarily dismissed. "
I find that rubbish. Haveing a private life is not a sackable offence. Many open swingers have good jobs and have never been sacked, is it because everyone knows anyway. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
Agreed,but how would they know unless they were on the same sites?
I was a teacher. If a parent or ex pupil had recognised and reported me, I would have been summarily dismissed.
I find that rubbish. Haveing a private life is not a sackable offence. Many open swingers have good jobs and have never been sacked, is it because everyone knows anyway."
You're obviously not a teacher. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I could definitely lose my job if I posted anything which was identifiable as me
But you couldnt as its not illegal to have sex with others. Otvwoukd never stand in court as dismissal same as doctors and nurses cannot get sacked. If anyone really thinks it goes against company policy they should either stop doing it or change jobs."
It's not illegal but in certain jobs ,it's unethical and go against the standards which are expected to be that professional, teacher nurse etc
Some professional bodies are strict with the ethics and moral codes to be followed in a community. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I could definitely lose my job if I posted anything which was identifiable as me
But you couldnt as its not illegal to have sex with others. Otvwoukd never stand in court as dismissal same as doctors and nurses cannot get sacked. If anyone really thinks it goes against company policy they should either stop doing it or change jobs."
Or maybe they can just quietly go about their sex lives and have the best of both worlds |
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In the end discretion is best and we aren't ashamed of what we do just adds another little buzz to everything as in " If only they knew .." but so many on here use words they don't know the meaning of it seems ?? just use it as a "Buzz" word to get meets it seems....Selective is another fine word but if you are actually selective ( like we are) or very specific in your tastes ( which again we are) all hell breaks loose ..labels like ..Fakes..Time wasters ..and even in the current climate where we have stated over & over & over again we aren't meeting ..xxx  |
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"I could definitely lose my job if I posted anything which was identifiable as me
But you couldnt as its not illegal to have sex with others. Otvwoukd never stand in court as dismissal same as doctors and nurses cannot get sacked. If anyone really thinks it goes against company policy they should either stop doing it or change jobs."
What has legality got to do with it? You've said this a few times. You don't only lose your job for things that are illegal. |
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
Agreed,but how would they know unless they were on the same sites?
I was a teacher. If a parent or ex pupil had recognised and reported me, I would have been summarily dismissed.
I find that rubbish. Haveing a private life is not a sackable offence. Many open swingers have good jobs and have never been sacked, is it because everyone knows anyway.
You're obviously not a teacher. "
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
Agreed,but how would they know unless they were on the same sites?
I was a teacher. If a parent or ex pupil had recognised and reported me, I would have been summarily dismissed.
I find that rubbish. Haveing a private life is not a sackable offence. Many open swingers have good jobs and have never been sacked, is it because everyone knows anyway."
Being part of a far right group is not illegal but I could definitely lose my job for that.
Why can't you just accept that some people want privacy due to their work? |
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No way, companies would not get away with that these days.
Obviously it normally wouldn't be sensible to shout about your lifestyle from the rooftops, but so long as you've not associated your employer with your bookface opinions they can't pry into your private life.
Spending the day at VA's milf club when you should have been working is a different kettle of fish however.
No they're unlikely to fire you "because swinging". But they can terminate your contract at any time for any/no reason so long as they abide by the termination clauses (letting you work a notice period or paying you in lieu of it) and don't discriminate against a protected characteristic.
Your contract is only as long as your notice period. "
No that's rubbish sorry
They still have to go through a formal process re consultation etc you don't just get terminated in the UK. I've been there, won the court case. Dried my tears with the cash they had to pay me. |
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I follow employment cases quite carefully and I can't recall any recent case where someone, including teachers, doctors etc have been dismissed purely for being a swinger.
Fired for stalking, harassment, punch ups, drugs etc that might have been related to a swinging lifestyle, yes, that happens.
But not for swinging per se. |
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Someone who used to work at my old place had pictures of her taken from her Facebook of her in a bikini. They were printed by a parent who had harassed her and posted all around the area, like stapled to trees and stuff. It was dealt with by the police, she went on maternity and when she came back couldn’t face working there any more and left |
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"Someone who used to work at my old place had pictures of her taken from her Facebook of her in a bikini. They were printed by a parent who had harassed her and posted all around the area, like stapled to trees and stuff. It was dealt with by the police, she went on maternity and when she came back couldn’t face working there any more and left "
That it just awful but the point is she didnt get sacked. |
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I don't like mixing work and pleasure.
Done it before once and it was just weird and I wasn't sure that they knew how to keep their mouth shut about it because he acted weird and I was glad that I am not working there anymore |
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I think employment contracts should be far looser with what they expect from their staff during their personal time. If it's legal and taxable, eg swinging clubs, then adults ought to be able to relax and have the full freedom of what they do with their body and time. We're not just ruled by the past, we're are still living in it too much.
I'd vote for a major overhaul of employment rights, more in favour of people. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Employment rights aren’t the problem, it’s the views of the people who manage or employ you. I know my employers would disapprove of my lifestyle as it’s different from theirs. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
Agreed,but how would they know unless they were on the same sites?
I was a teacher. If a parent or ex pupil had recognised and reported me, I would have been summarily dismissed. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
Agreed,but how would they know unless they were on the same sites?
I was a teacher. If a parent or ex pupil had recognised and reported me, I would have been summarily dismissed.
I find that rubbish. Haveing a private life is not a sackable offence. Many open swingers have good jobs and have never been sacked, is it because everyone knows anyway."
You have your opinion but sadly this is very true..bringing the good name of ......... into disrepute can be a sackable offence. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Has anyone every lost thier job due to swinging? Genuinely curious x
I am very curious about this too. If you really think swinging is against your company policy then you should stop doing it or change jobs. You cant have it all unfortunatly."
With all due respect.... No one in their right mind is going to quit their job for sex.....
People studied and worked very hard to get to where they are in their careers....
In the grand scheme of life , swinging is just a brief chapter of self indulgence..... |
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
Agreed,but how would they know unless they were on the same sites?
I was a teacher. If a parent or ex pupil had recognised and reported me, I would have been summarily dismissed.
I find that rubbish. Haveing a private life is not a sackable offence. Many open swingers have good jobs and have never been sacked, is it because everyone knows anyway.
Being part of a far right group is not illegal but I could definitely lose my job for that.
Why can't you just accept that some people want privacy due to their work? "
Because sometimes it's said by single guys on here in a tone that makes out like they are secret agents who must not be recognised when playing baccarat at the Casino. |
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"Someone who used to work at my old place had pictures of her taken from her Facebook of her in a bikini. They were printed by a parent who had harassed her and posted all around the area, like stapled to trees and stuff. It was dealt with by the police, she went on maternity and when she came back couldn’t face working there any more and left
That it just awful but the point is she didnt get sacked. "
No, she didn't get sacked, but she was essentially bullied out of it.
The end result is the same. She was out of the job (and possibly career) due to people having a different set of morales.
Being sacked isn't the only way to loose your job, and is why some people ask for discretion due to their job. |
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No way, companies would not get away with that these days.
Obviously it normally wouldn't be sensible to shout about your lifestyle from the rooftops, but so long as you've not associated your employer with your bookface opinions they can't pry into your private life.
Spending the day at VA's milf club when you should have been working is a different kettle of fish however.
No they're unlikely to fire you "because swinging". But they can terminate your contract at any time for any/no reason so long as they abide by the termination clauses (letting you work a notice period or paying you in lieu of it) and don't discriminate against a protected characteristic.
Your contract is only as long as your notice period.
No that's rubbish sorry
They still have to go through a formal process re consultation etc you don't just get terminated in the UK. I've been there, won the court case. Dried my tears with the cash they had to pay me. "
What about contract staff?
They don't need to be sacked, as their is no legal obligation for them to extend the contract once it's up.
If the boss doesn't like what you get up to, or thinks it looks bad for the company, they will simply give someone else the contract. |
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Because people are scared of Constructive Dismissal which as far as i know can be pretty difficult to prove
Plus the obvious of being passed over for promotion ect
and some poeple just want an easy and private life |
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No way, companies would not get away with that these days.
Obviously it normally wouldn't be sensible to shout about your lifestyle from the rooftops, but so long as you've not associated your employer with your bookface opinions they can't pry into your private life.
Spending the day at VA's milf club when you should have been working is a different kettle of fish however.
No they're unlikely to fire you "because swinging". But they can terminate your contract at any time for any/no reason so long as they abide by the termination clauses (letting you work a notice period or paying you in lieu of it) and don't discriminate against a protected characteristic.
Your contract is only as long as your notice period.
No that's rubbish sorry
They still have to go through a formal process re consultation etc you don't just get terminated in the UK. I've been there, won the court case. Dried my tears with the cash they had to pay me.
What about contract staff?
They don't need to be sacked, as their is no legal obligation for them to extend the contract once it's up.
If the boss doesn't like what you get up to, or thinks it looks bad for the company, they will simply give someone else the contract. "
Yes, that's not what you said. If for example you have a six month contract they can't terminate you arbitrarily after thrse months. Your contract is six months.
Why would you expect to automatically stay on longer?
Contract staff generally get paid more due to the peripatetic existence. |
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No way, companies would not get away with that these days.
Obviously it normally wouldn't be sensible to shout about your lifestyle from the rooftops, but so long as you've not associated your employer with your bookface opinions they can't pry into your private life.
Spending the day at VA's milf club when you should have been working is a different kettle of fish however.
No they're unlikely to fire you "because swinging". But they can terminate your contract at any time for any/no reason so long as they abide by the termination clauses (letting you work a notice period or paying you in lieu of it) and don't discriminate against a protected characteristic.
Your contract is only as long as your notice period.
No that's rubbish sorry
They still have to go through a formal process re consultation etc you don't just get terminated in the UK. I've been there, won the court case. Dried my tears with the cash they had to pay me.
What about contract staff?
They don't need to be sacked, as their is no legal obligation for them to extend the contract once it's up.
If the boss doesn't like what you get up to, or thinks it looks bad for the company, they will simply give someone else the contract.
Yes, that's not what you said. If for example you have a six month contract they can't terminate you arbitrarily after thrse months. Your contract is six months.
Why would you expect to automatically stay on longer?
Contract staff generally get paid more due to the peripatetic existence. "
There are employers who advertise jobs on short term contracts knowing full well that they are really permanent, the employees also know that the job will last much longer than the advertised contract. |
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Agreed, it is silly but the codes of conduct in some jobs are pretty stringent. Teachers must always appear dead from the neck down and my work for a government department would be in jeopardy if this was widely known. It may not be fair but it's a fact. |
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I am open with employer with regards to what my activities are outside of my work.
As long as I am not conducting my activities in the business whilst it open or in uniform whilst engaging in those activities they couldn’t care less. |
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No way, companies would not get away with that these days.
Obviously it normally wouldn't be sensible to shout about your lifestyle from the rooftops, but so long as you've not associated your employer with your bookface opinions they can't pry into your private life.
Spending the day at VA's milf club when you should have been working is a different kettle of fish however.
No they're unlikely to fire you "because swinging". But they can terminate your contract at any time for any/no reason so long as they abide by the termination clauses (letting you work a notice period or paying you in lieu of it) and don't discriminate against a protected characteristic.
Your contract is only as long as your notice period.
No that's rubbish sorry
They still have to go through a formal process re consultation etc you don't just get terminated in the UK. I've been there, won the court case. Dried my tears with the cash they had to pay me.
What about contract staff?
They don't need to be sacked, as their is no legal obligation for them to extend the contract once it's up.
If the boss doesn't like what you get up to, or thinks it looks bad for the company, they will simply give someone else the contract.
Yes, that's not what you said. If for example you have a six month contract they can't terminate you arbitrarily after thrse months. Your contract is six months.
Why would you expect to automatically stay on longer?
Contract staff generally get paid more due to the peripatetic existence.
There are employers who advertise jobs on short term contracts knowing full well that they are really permanent, the employees also know that the job will last much longer than the advertised contract."
Indeed but that's always in the employees favour - you have to go onto a new contract, or have a rolling contract with fairly lengthy notice, and you are usually paid more. |
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Professional Standards. That and the possibility of bribery or corruption.
Not that it stops it mind. Many walked down the road or arrested due to poor behaviour.
Not that Fab is in itself a bad thing or something to be ashamed of...unless you are lying or cheating on a spouse. |
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this."
External activities can still fall under code of conduct and the perception of the swinging lifestyle could be seen as being a business into disrepute especially if you hold a senior position. |
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"I could definitely lose my job if I posted anything which was identifiable as me
But you couldnt as its not illegal to have sex with others. Otvwoukd never stand in court as dismissal same as doctors and nurses cannot get sacked. If anyone really thinks it goes against company policy they should either stop doing it or change jobs."
Many jobs have things written into the contracts about behaviour in public places due to how it reflects on the company. Since this is a public place and the content certainly is too, then yes I could get in trouble. Hence I do it without revealing my identity. Thereby breaking no rules. |
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Was at a place years ago now where my profile of another site I was on appeared printed out on the notice board.
It got taken down then reappeared etc till management interviewed me about it. They couldn't do anything because it was impossible to prove with around 500 people on site.
Eventually word gets around, people talk and then another meeting took place in the workshop.
I'll leave it to your imagination. |
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"I am open with employer with regards to what my activities are outside of my work.
As long as I am not conducting my activities in the business whilst it open or in uniform whilst engaging in those activities they couldn’t care less. "
Why would you feel the need to be open about it? |
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By *amish SMan
over a year ago
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As some said above, each case on its own merits. I worked in a job where the person doing the same job as myself could potentially keep or lose their job depending on their personal life outside that employment. If they were caught on fab and considered open to bribery then they would be moved out.
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"I am open with employer with regards to what my activities are outside of my work.
As long as I am not conducting my activities in the business whilst it open or in uniform whilst engaging in those activities they couldn’t care less.
Why would you feel the need to be open about it?"
Unfortunately I can’t completely answer your question due to the rules here.
While I hide my face here purely because of the way this particular site is run, I do so simply to protect the anonymity of those I do play /meet as everyone has a right to privacy at the end of the day.
I live my life openly and authentically as I can. But my lifestyle isn’t compatible to everyone else’s. But as I do live my life that way, including my work by doing so has enabled people that I work with to also embrace their own struggles with sexuality and enabled to them to live a more fulfilling life.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was introduced to this site by a colleague and I got a message on here a few weeks later from a different colleague who told me there are quite a few other workmates on here too but I have yet to find any of them  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
You can be sacked for breaching contract. Many contracts stipulate a code of behaviour, and bringing the company or employer into disrepute by belonging to a swinging site would definitely be a sackable offence.
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Would not beimg on a swingers site, but attending events, or clubs be the same.. as i see it, theres no difference to going down town and pulling a different shag every weekend, to gojng to a swingers club |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I understand we all like discretion as thats standard in my book but why do some folk say things like " if anyone found out i would lose my job" etc. As far as i am aware within the law you can not get sacked for haveing sex with other folk so why do some act like you can? Genuinely curious to your thoughts or genuine experiences of this.
External activities can still fall under code of conduct and the perception of the swinging lifestyle could be seen as being a business into disrepute especially if you hold a senior position."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Employment rights aren’t the problem, it’s the views of the people who manage or employ you."
This is exactly the issue. The reality is that swinging per se is legal, swingers clubs are legal, and lifestyle clauses in contracts of employment are, to a large extent unenforceable.
However employer interpretations of their own contracts of employment are ,at best, mediocre. The politics of the organisation are also critical. Sometimes it is easier to fire regardless and then let the tribunal system sort out the pieces. What employers rely on is that the 'shame factor' means individuals don't bring the fight back to the courts.
On a separate note, highly regulated industries, religious organisations, the public security sector have some exemptions.
There are many stated cases on google and it has always been a huge debate in CIPD circles but every case is different!
Also an aside note. I,(D) have been living an alternative lifestyle both with kink and fetish for more than 30 years. I have also worked in the highly regulated industries and the public security sector. The answer when going though vetting is 'yes, this is what I Do' so I cannot be exploited/revealed/etc, a bit like open source coding, hey, its out there and legal
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