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"Can’t believe racism in here exists too. I thought we’re all here to have some fun and meet like minded people. " Racism in what way? | |||
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"Unfortunately you’ll never get away from it. Where people gather, you’ll find racists, homophobes, misogynists and other cretins. " Sad but true. | |||
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"Report it and continue being you , don't let toxic people get you down." This, you can't let other people control how you feel or what you do you can only control how you react. If these people reveal themselves, the thankfully we all know who to avoid. | |||
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"Difficult to comment on your particular experience without knowing what it is op. "  | |||
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"If someone isn't attracted to someone that's not racist. " I don’t thinks what’s what he talking about we all have preference | |||
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"Yeah man had fair free racist messages just because I said no " I think people look for something derogatory to say if they are that kind of person. I’ve had a fair few fat slag messages when saying no. | |||
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"I see it's not taken long for people to start with 'but have you really experienced racism though?' So sadly typical. " Where? | |||
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"If someone isn't attracted to someone that's not racist. I don’t thinks what’s what he talking about we all have preference " I asked what he meant but he didn't reply yet. | |||
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"Yeah man had fair free racist messages just because I said no I think people look for something derogatory to say if they are that kind of person. I’ve had a fair few fat slag messages when saying no. " Yes this turn a guy down, suddenly I’m a fat tranny not convincing or worth meeting anyway 
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"Yeah man had fair free racist messages just because I said no " me too all the time which is another reason I'm so picky. What makes me laugh is they message me not the other way round, so why would you wish to meet someone you class as a d**ty, black, n word, c***? I sure wouldn't want to meet someone I thought that of. Weirdo's. OP just be careful and use your instincts. | |||
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"Can’t believe racism in here exists too. I thought we’re all here to have some fun and meet like minded people. " Homophobia Fatist Sexist Racist Bumist Cockist Single male ist It’s all here but none of it has to affect you unless you let it. T | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad. "That’s a bit of a sweeping statement | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement "If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind."Straight men who won't fuck men are homophobic. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
Straight men who won't fuck men are homophobic. "Oh cool....so now I can go around saying that women who wont fuck a crossdresser are transhopbic too and they must engage me happily with their vaginas from now on.....thankyou | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
Straight men who won't fuck men are homophobic. "How can you even compare those two? 
Straight men are straight, they are not interested in sex with men.
Now, people who say every black person on this fucking planet is unattractive are just close-minded and awful. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
Straight men who won't fuck men are homophobic.
Oh cool....so now I can go around saying that women who wont fuck a crossdresser are transhopbic too and they must engage me happily with their vaginas from now on.....thankyou "You're welcome. | |||
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"Can’t believe racism in here exists too. I thought we’re all here to have some fun and meet like minded people. Homophobia Fatist Sexist Racist Bumist you missed ageist Cockist Single male ist It’s all here but none of it has to affect you unless you let it. T" | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad. "I'm on here looking for pale white ginger boys as I cannot find them in my local area. I live in Hackney so i don't need to search for diversity on here. People read my profile and assume I'm racist, but hey, that's their closed mind not mine. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad. "Yes have seen that here x | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind."If you try hard enough you can find racism in every aspect of life. It's a very popular 21st century hobby | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
I'm on here looking for pale white ginger boys as I cannot find them in my local area. I live in Hackney so i don't need to search for diversity on here. People read my profile and assume I'm racist, but hey, that's their closed mind not mine. " | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind."So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind."You could have actual friends from every race possible = non racist but then only be sexually attracted to one race = racist? It doesn't always work out like that though with sexual preference surely? | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition. "I don't personally understand how someone can outright say they would never be attracted to someone of a particular race. Like for example when people say they're not attracted to black people, if they fancied a white guy and met another guy who looked identical to them but apart from being black they wouldn't fancy them? | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
I'm on here looking for pale white ginger boys as I cannot find them in my local area. I live in Hackney so i don't need to search for diversity on here. People read my profile and assume I'm racist, but hey, that's their closed mind not mine. "I wouldn't assume you're racist because you're on here looking for pale ginger boys only. However, if you were on here looking for pale ginger boys and writing NO BLACKS OR ASIANS and dismissing a whole race saying they're not attractive, never will be and you would never have anything to do with them then yes I would assume there is racism behind that statement. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
I don't personally understand how someone can outright say they would never be attracted to someone of a particular race. Like for example when people say they're not attracted to black people, if they fancied a white guy and met another guy who looked identical to them but apart from being black they wouldn't fancy them? "Whether people like it or not tho, there are physiological differences between races. Differences that some people might not find attractive. I personally don’t believe that makes them racist. Are there people out there hiding their racism with ‘preferences’? Absolutely. Does that make everyone who exercises their ‘preferences’ racist? Absolutely not. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition. "Yes there's definitely some form of racism behind it. I've said this several times now during my time on Fab but it doesn't sit well with me at all when people throw all people of colour into the same group and write them off as unattractive and then say it is preference. It's so unnecessary. It doesn't need to be said. And do you view every black person the same way? And every Asian? Because that is how it comes across. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
I don't personally understand how someone can outright say they would never be attracted to someone of a particular race. Like for example when people say they're not attracted to black people, if they fancied a white guy and met another guy who looked identical to them but apart from being black they wouldn't fancy them?
Whether people like it or not tho, there are physiological differences between races. Differences that some people might not find attractive. I personally don’t believe that makes them racist. Are there people out there hiding their racism with ‘preferences’? Absolutely. Does that make everyone who exercises their ‘preferences’ racist? Absolutely not. "There can be but not always. Some have more distinctive features but often there's as much variation between those of the same race as there is between races. I've met people many people who are racially ambiguous or who's ethnicity I couldn't know without speaking to them and that's why I don't understand how people can make such absolute statements. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
Yes there's definitely some form of racism behind it. I've said this several times now during my time on Fab but it doesn't sit well with me at all when people throw all people of colour into the same group and write them off as unattractive and then say it is preference. It's so unnecessary. It doesn't need to be said. And do you view every black person the same way? And every Asian? Because that is how it comes across. "But that’s just your opinion. As mentioned above there are physiological differences that some might not like. So in those circumstances, it would be accurate for them to say categorically ‘no (insert race here)’ as those features are so characteristic of said race. That doesn’t mean they despise all members of that particular race. They could have family or friends of that race and get on perfectly fine and function in normal interactions with them. Just because they don’t want to fuck someone of that race doesn’t make them racist, I disagree with that premise. It’s far more complex an issue. As also stated above - racism is defined by a belief in racial superiority and nothing else. Finding someone fuckable or not doesn’t come into it. It might to you, it’s your personal belief after all, but strictly speaking the definition doesn’t fit. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
I'm on here looking for pale white ginger boys as I cannot find them in my local area. I live in Hackney so i don't need to search for diversity on here. People read my profile and assume I'm racist, but hey, that's their closed mind not mine.
I wouldn't assume you're racist because you're on here looking for pale ginger boys only. However, if you were on here looking for pale ginger boys and writing NO BLACKS OR ASIANS and dismissing a whole race saying they're not attractive, never will be and you would never have anything to do with them then yes I would assume there is racism behind that statement. "That is a fair point. Do people post that on their profiles? If that's the case then that is racist. I don't tend to see profiles like that from London. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
I don't personally understand how someone can outright say they would never be attracted to someone of a particular race. Like for example when people say they're not attracted to black people, if they fancied a white guy and met another guy who looked identical to them but apart from being black they wouldn't fancy them?
Whether people like it or not tho, there are physiological differences between races. Differences that some people might not find attractive. I personally don’t believe that makes them racist. Are there people out there hiding their racism with ‘preferences’? Absolutely. Does that make everyone who exercises their ‘preferences’ racist? Absolutely not.
There can be but not always. Some have more distinctive features but often there's as much variation between those of the same race as there is between races. I've met people many people who are racially ambiguous or who's ethnicity I couldn't know without speaking to them and that's why I don't understand how people can make such absolute statements. "No and I agree, I personally wouldn’t ever say a blanket ‘no’ on the back of skin colour, but I’m just highlighting the nuances that exist. Again it’s all down to personal preferences. You and I might not understand the thinking of some people but ultimately, it’s their decision to make, and arbitrarily tagging someone as an out and out racist I think is wrong. And we still don’t know the circumstances the OP found himself in. It could be he’s not happy at being rejected and blamed it on racism. But there’s also the possibility of him being a genuine victim of direct racism. Every circumstance is different. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind."So what about women and couples who only meet black guys ? | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
I don't personally understand how someone can outright say they would never be attracted to someone of a particular race. Like for example when people say they're not attracted to black people, if they fancied a white guy and met another guy who looked identical to them but apart from being black they wouldn't fancy them?
Whether people like it or not tho, there are physiological differences between races. Differences that some people might not find attractive. I personally don’t believe that makes them racist. Are there people out there hiding their racism with ‘preferences’? Absolutely. Does that make everyone who exercises their ‘preferences’ racist? Absolutely not.
There can be but not always. Some have more distinctive features but often there's as much variation between those of the same race as there is between races. I've met people many people who are racially ambiguous or who's ethnicity I couldn't know without speaking to them and that's why I don't understand how people can make such absolute statements.
No and I agree, I personally wouldn’t ever say a blanket ‘no’ on the back of skin colour, but I’m just highlighting the nuances that exist. Again it’s all down to personal preferences. You and I might not understand the thinking of some people but ultimately, it’s their decision to make, and arbitrarily tagging someone as an out and out racist I think is wrong. And we still don’t know the circumstances the OP found himself in. It could be he’s not happy at being rejected and blamed it on racism. But there’s also the possibility of him being a genuine victim of direct racism. Every circumstance is different. "But my comment was about people who outright say they could never be an attracted to anyone of particular race and saying I don't understand. If you're saying you feel the same and also don't understand then where is this conversation going? | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
I don't personally understand how someone can outright say they would never be attracted to someone of a particular race. Like for example when people say they're not attracted to black people, if they fancied a white guy and met another guy who looked identical to them but apart from being black they wouldn't fancy them?
Whether people like it or not tho, there are physiological differences between races. Differences that some people might not find attractive. I personally don’t believe that makes them racist. Are there people out there hiding their racism with ‘preferences’? Absolutely. Does that make everyone who exercises their ‘preferences’ racist? Absolutely not.
There can be but not always. Some have more distinctive features but often there's as much variation between those of the same race as there is between races. I've met people many people who are racially ambiguous or who's ethnicity I couldn't know without speaking to them and that's why I don't understand how people can make such absolute statements.
No and I agree, I personally wouldn’t ever say a blanket ‘no’ on the back of skin colour, but I’m just highlighting the nuances that exist. Again it’s all down to personal preferences. You and I might not understand the thinking of some people but ultimately, it’s their decision to make, and arbitrarily tagging someone as an out and out racist I think is wrong. And we still don’t know the circumstances the OP found himself in. It could be he’s not happy at being rejected and blamed it on racism. But there’s also the possibility of him being a genuine victim of direct racism. Every circumstance is different.
But my comment was about people who outright say they could never be an attracted to anyone of particular race and saying I don't understand. If you're saying you feel the same and also don't understand then where is this conversation going? "I was just thinking this. It's what I was saying too. 
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
I'm on here looking for pale white ginger boys as I cannot find them in my local area. I live in Hackney so i don't need to search for diversity on here. People read my profile and assume I'm racist, but hey, that's their closed mind not mine. "I don't think your profile is racist at all... People like to witch hunt ... | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So what about women and couples who only meet black guys ?"I think the fetishizing of black men is awful and does nothing but cause problems. It's like saying black men are only good for their cock. But that's a whole other debate I'm not in the mood to discuss.
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
I don't personally understand how someone can outright say they would never be attracted to someone of a particular race. Like for example when people say they're not attracted to black people, if they fancied a white guy and met another guy who looked identical to them but apart from being black they wouldn't fancy them?
Whether people like it or not tho, there are physiological differences between races. Differences that some people might not find attractive. I personally don’t believe that makes them racist. Are there people out there hiding their racism with ‘preferences’? Absolutely. Does that make everyone who exercises their ‘preferences’ racist? Absolutely not.
There can be but not always. Some have more distinctive features but often there's as much variation between those of the same race as there is between races. I've met people many people who are racially ambiguous or who's ethnicity I couldn't know without speaking to them and that's why I don't understand how people can make such absolute statements.
No and I agree, I personally wouldn’t ever say a blanket ‘no’ on the back of skin colour, but I’m just highlighting the nuances that exist. Again it’s all down to personal preferences. You and I might not understand the thinking of some people but ultimately, it’s their decision to make, and arbitrarily tagging someone as an out and out racist I think is wrong. And we still don’t know the circumstances the OP found himself in. It could be he’s not happy at being rejected and blamed it on racism. But there’s also the possibility of him being a genuine victim of direct racism. Every circumstance is different.
But my comment was about people who outright say they could never be an attracted to anyone of particular race and saying I don't understand. If you're saying you feel the same and also don't understand then where is this conversation going? "When I say you and I might not understand their thinking I meant what it is that’s made them come to that conclusion, ie why they say they don’t find any members of a particular race attractive. Until you ask someone why they don’t find a race attractive you won’t understand. Like to my mind, if it’s entirely physiological, then I can respect their decision making, it’s their choice ultimately. There will be people here who won’t even consider another race because they’ve had negative experiences in the past (grooming or sexual assault victims for instance), which is where the water gets muddied. It’s no longer about physical attraction, it’s about prejudice. Sorry I should’ve been clearer. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
I'm on here looking for pale white ginger boys as I cannot find them in my local area. I live in Hackney so i don't need to search for diversity on here. People read my profile and assume I'm racist, but hey, that's their closed mind not mine.
I wouldn't assume you're racist because you're on here looking for pale ginger boys only. However, if you were on here looking for pale ginger boys and writing NO BLACKS OR ASIANS and dismissing a whole race saying they're not attractive, never will be and you would never have anything to do with them then yes I would assume there is racism behind that statement. "We will and do happily socialise with many different races including blacks and Asians so I think it’s fair to say we aren’t racist. Will we have sex with them? No it just doesn’t do it for us. Now if you decide to label us as racist feel free, the problem is yours not ours or our friends Mark | |||
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"Can’t believe racism in here exists too. I thought we’re all here to have some fun and meet like minded people. " Why would you think it doesn't exist here? What would make a sex/swingers site any different to the rest of the world? | |||
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"So the op gets a message, he responds with a polite no (I presume), then he gets a torrent of racial abuse. This leads me to think The messager responded in a way to hurt and upset the op, and the only way he or she could do that was use the OP colour. " Do we know that’s what’s happened? OP hasn’t gone into any details so we can only speculate. | |||
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"So the op gets a message, he responds with a polite no (I presume), then he gets a torrent of racial abuse. This leads me to think The messager responded in a way to hurt and upset the op, and the only way he or she could do that was use the OP colour. " Only problem with your theory is that the OP hasn’t said any of it, it’s pure speculation on your part Mark | |||
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"Yeah man had fair free racist messages just because I said no " A lot of people seem to get abusive and pick a fault when you say no. I've had guys tell I'm beautiful until I say no.....then I'm "fat ugly and they were doing me a favour out of sympathy". They simply cant take rejection | |||
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"It wasnt until last year I was classed as a racist because i criticized this ridiculous knee bending gimmick. If me being classed a racist for exercising my right to an opinion(whether you believe it right or wrong is irrelevant) then it's a label I have no problem embracing." | |||
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"So the op gets a message, he responds with a polite no (I presume), then he gets a torrent of racial abuse. This leads me to think The messager responded in a way to hurt and upset the op, and the only way he or she could do that was use the OP colour. Only problem with your theory is that the OP hasn’t said any of it, it’s pure speculation on your part Mark" Sorry Mark I thought I was responding to the OP turns out it was someone else's comment | |||
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"Im sorry...but not be attracted to people of colour is not racist When its on a swinging site its no different to a woman saying no to bald men...people's attraction is just that...its what they find attractive...doesn't mean they hate black people or bald men" | |||
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"This is a website full of people from all different walks of life. I find it hard to believe that you genuinely think that there wouldn't be racists on here. This site has it's fair share of racists as well as homophobics, sexist people, bigots etc. Just ignore them."
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
Yes there's definitely some form of racism behind it. I've said this several times now during my time on Fab but it doesn't sit well with me at all when people throw all people of colour into the same group and write them off as unattractive and then say it is preference. It's so unnecessary. It doesn't need to be said. And do you view every black person the same way? And every Asian? Because that is how it comes across. "Interesting view. Do you feel the same when it’s people of colour not attracted to other people of colour? Are they also racist? Just curious... | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
Yes there's definitely some form of racism behind it. I've said this several times now during my time on Fab but it doesn't sit well with me at all when people throw all people of colour into the same group and write them off as unattractive and then say it is preference. It's so unnecessary. It doesn't need to be said. And do you view every black person the same way? And every Asian? Because that is how it comes across.
Interesting view.
Do you feel the same when it’s people of colour not attracted to other people of colour?
Are they also racist? Just curious... "Apparently, this can be "colourism", a term I've only recently encountered. Defined as "prejudice or discrimination against individuals with a darker skin tone, typically among people of the same ethnic or racial group." You were so right in your previous post - there will always be an "ism" to throw into the mix. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
Yes there's definitely some form of racism behind it. I've said this several times now during my time on Fab but it doesn't sit well with me at all when people throw all people of colour into the same group and write them off as unattractive and then say it is preference. It's so unnecessary. It doesn't need to be said. And do you view every black person the same way? And every Asian? Because that is how it comes across.
Interesting view.
Do you feel the same when it’s people of colour not attracted to other people of colour?
Are they also racist? Just curious...
Apparently, this can be "colourism", a term I've only recently encountered. Defined as "prejudice or discrimination against individuals with a darker skin tone, typically among people of the same ethnic or racial group."
You were so right in your previous post - there will always be an "ism" to throw into the mix.
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
Yes there's definitely some form of racism behind it. I've said this several times now during my time on Fab but it doesn't sit well with me at all when people throw all people of colour into the same group and write them off as unattractive and then say it is preference. It's so unnecessary. It doesn't need to be said. And do you view every black person the same way? And every Asian? Because that is how it comes across.
Interesting view.
Do you feel the same when it’s people of colour not attracted to other people of colour?
Are they also racist? Just curious...
Apparently, this can be "colourism", a term I've only recently encountered. Defined as "prejudice or discrimination against individuals with a darker skin tone, typically among people of the same ethnic or racial group."
You were so right in your previous post - there will always be an "ism" to throw into the mix.
Ah yes.
I’ve heard that one. Someone on Instagram claimed I benefit from “colourism” because I’m a lighter skinned black person and that I should do something to eradicate it...
I did laugh, I find the labels amusing these days.
"Really? Some people (usually white people I have to say) like to go to extraordinary lengths to signal just how virtuous they are in regard to race. They are usually completely oblivious to the fact that it can be offensive to determine what I should or shouldn't be offended by but because they have the firm and unshakeable belief that they're right, you will never change their minds. There are many on this thread, and have been on every similar thread. It can be very dividing and tiresome. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
Yes there's definitely some form of racism behind it. I've said this several times now during my time on Fab but it doesn't sit well with me at all when people throw all people of colour into the same group and write them off as unattractive and then say it is preference. It's so unnecessary. It doesn't need to be said. And do you view every black person the same way? And every Asian? Because that is how it comes across.
Interesting view.
Do you feel the same when it’s people of colour not attracted to other people of colour?
Are they also racist? Just curious... "Yes of course. I think everyone can experience forms of racism no matter the colour of their skin. But I don't believe white people experience racism the same way as someone who is black for example. Also, in regards to the comment above, I am not trying to show how virtuous and great I am. I'm entitled to my opinion that dismissing a whole race as unattractive is racist. I'm not trying to be a hero, it is how I feel and I am not forcing anyone else to change their views. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
Yes there's definitely some form of racism behind it. I've said this several times now during my time on Fab but it doesn't sit well with me at all when people throw all people of colour into the same group and write them off as unattractive and then say it is preference. It's so unnecessary. It doesn't need to be said. And do you view every black person the same way? And every Asian? Because that is how it comes across.
Interesting view.
Do you feel the same when it’s people of colour not attracted to other people of colour?
Are they also racist? Just curious...
Yes of course. I think everyone can experience forms of racism no matter the colour of their skin. But I don't believe white people experience racism the same way as someone who is black for example.
Also, in regards to the comment above, I am not trying to show how virtuous and great I am. I'm entitled to my opinion that dismissing a whole race as unattractive is racist. I'm not trying to be a hero, it is how I feel and I am not forcing anyone else to change their views. "In the west certainly, because it is dominantly white. This is the thing, lots of people need to remember and note that racism exists outside of the west, outside of North America, outside of the UK, outside of the rest of Europe, outside of Scandinavia etc. You get the idea. In places that are not dominantly white, they can be just as racist in the same ways towards white people as the west can be towards other races. Racism will always exist because hate exists, and hate is human nature, regardless of skin colour. Even IF (won't ever happen) we were to abolish racism in the Western world, racism would still exist somewhere. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
Yes there's definitely some form of racism behind it. I've said this several times now during my time on Fab but it doesn't sit well with me at all when people throw all people of colour into the same group and write them off as unattractive and then say it is preference. It's so unnecessary. It doesn't need to be said. And do you view every black person the same way? And every Asian? Because that is how it comes across.
But that’s just your opinion. As mentioned above there are physiological differences that some might not like. So in those circumstances, it would be accurate for them to say categorically ‘no (insert race here)’ as those features are so characteristic of said race. That doesn’t mean they despise all members of that particular race. They could have family or friends of that race and get on perfectly fine and function in normal interactions with them. Just because they don’t want to fuck someone of that race doesn’t make them racist, I disagree with that premise. It’s far more complex an issue.
As also stated above - racism is defined by a belief in racial superiority and nothing else. Finding someone fuckable or not doesn’t come into it. It might to you, it’s your personal belief after all, but strictly speaking the definition doesn’t fit. " | |||
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"Can’t believe racism in here exists too. I thought we’re all here to have some fun and meet like minded people. " Im afraid it does exists. I get some dreadful messages. You know the short man syndrome well unfortunately some guys play the racist card | |||
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"Im sorry...but not be attracted to people of colour is not racist When its on a swinging site its no different to a woman saying no to bald men...people's attraction is just that...its what they find attractive...doesn't mean they hate black people or bald men" I would add that I could consider someone inferior and good only to satisfy me sexually as in the colonial period. Preferences and racism are totally different things. But I thought that Fab was more open. Very sad to find that is not | |||
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"Can’t believe racism in here exists too. I thought we’re all here to have some fun and meet like minded people. " Maybe if you elaborated or told us why you posted this ? Then we could comment constructively. Cause this is a very vague statement to make and then go walkabout | |||
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"This is a waste of time as the op still has not specified the issue. I guess there is not a real problem at all...... " Snap | |||
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"The world has gone too PC Would be good if the Op gave us the story of his original comment??? We have friends of all skin colours and religion. It’s the person that counts. What grips our shit is when the racist card is pulled every time something is said that the person feeling insulted doesn’t like x" | |||
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"The world has gone too PC Would be good if the Op gave us the story of his original comment??? We have friends of all skin colours and religion. It’s the person that counts. What grips our shit is when the racist card is pulled every time something is said that the person feeling insulted doesn’t like x" | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad. "I never thought about it like that - but yes, right on! | |||
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"I would love to know of those characteristics that make all black people the same beyond their skin colour. So akin to I am not racist because my cleaner is black. It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
So we’re clear, those individuals who choose not to have sex with people from a race they don’t find attractive are out and out racist? They’re not allowed to have preferences? Racism used to be defined by the belief of a racial superiority, but we’ve obviously moved away from that definition.
Yes there's definitely some form of racism behind it. I've said this several times now during my time on Fab but it doesn't sit well with me at all when people throw all people of colour into the same group and write them off as unattractive and then say it is preference. It's so unnecessary. It doesn't need to be said. And do you view every black person the same way? And every Asian? Because that is how it comes across.
But that’s just your opinion. As mentioned above there are physiological differences that some might not like. So in those circumstances, it would be accurate for them to say categorically ‘no (insert race here)’ as those features are so characteristic of said race. That doesn’t mean they despise all members of that particular race. They could have family or friends of that race and get on perfectly fine and function in normal interactions with them. Just because they don’t want to fuck someone of that race doesn’t make them racist, I disagree with that premise. It’s far more complex an issue.
As also stated above - racism is defined by a belief in racial superiority and nothing else. Finding someone fuckable or not doesn’t come into it. It might to you, it’s your personal belief after all, but strictly speaking the definition doesn’t fit. "I reiterate what others have said - I do not believe not wanting to have sex with members of a particular race to be inherently racist. In terms of physiological features why do you think I would just be talking about black men? You see plenty of profiles insisting on partners being at least 6ft. That would eliminate well over 90% of Chinese people, and probably 100% of those who are Khmer or Quechua descent. Is that racist too? Or is it only racist if they bluntly say ‘please no Chinese, Quechua or Khmer men’? As I say, complex. | |||
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"Can’t believe racism in here exists too. I thought we’re all here to have some fun and meet like minded people. " Racism and sexism are abundant here. I don’t get it, what is wrong with the colour of skin? Or a persons sexual orientation? The amount of people who block tvs is ridiculous I don’t go hunting for straight people so why block our kind? | |||
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"To be fair, preferences / seclusions on here can't be read as proof of bigotry. I don't fancy the albino Fijian hermaphrodite octogenarian sheep herder that lives up the lane behind the post office ...but she's great company to chat with, outside of lambing season." Yes that's very specific tho, racism is more generic across the board. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
Straight men who won't fuck men are homophobic.
How can you even compare those two?
Straight men are straight, they are not interested in sex with men.
Now, people who say every black person on this fucking planet is unattractive are just close-minded and awful."Have you ever thought that there may be something underlying? I do. For all anyone knows that person could have been attacked by someone of the skin colour they don't want to meet and have dismissed them all based on past trauma. I won't meet people with the same name or body shape as my ex for that very reason. It wouldn't be fair on either of us coz I'd be jumpy and likely get really uncomfortable. That's not their fault, they'd feel awkward as fuck. Even though I know in my head they're not the same person, we can't control the triggers. If we could then PTSD etc would be a piece of piss to cure. | |||
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"Can’t believe racism in here exists too. I thought we’re all here to have some fun and meet like minded people. " It's ignorant and completely unbelievable to be naive to racism existing. .. it hasn't gone away because it doesn't show up on your insta feed or in he news think about those who suffer it daily before making a flippant comment in a forum | |||
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"When I joined fab I was surprised to see how judgemental,cruel and bigoted some of the posts on here were. I thought that swingers would be open minded about more than sex. It took me a while to realise that racists and bullies can be swingers as well. Im still disapointed but no longer surprised. " I think the predominant trait is non conformism. That exhibits in many different ways for different people | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
Straight men who won't fuck men are homophobic.
How can you even compare those two?
Straight men are straight, they are not interested in sex with men.
Now, people who say every black person on this fucking planet is unattractive are just close-minded and awful.
Have you ever thought that there may be something underlying? I do.
For all anyone knows that person could have been attacked by someone of the skin colour they don't want to meet and have dismissed them all based on past trauma.
I won't meet people with the same name or body shape as my ex for that very reason.
It wouldn't be fair on either of us coz I'd be jumpy and likely get really uncomfortable. That's not their fault, they'd feel awkward as fuck. Even though I know in my head they're not the same person, we can't control the triggers. If we could then PTSD etc would be a piece of piss to cure."Another really solid piece of critical thinking and objectivity
My school friend was in and out of crown court a couple of years back giving evidence in a grooming gang case where she was identified as a victim. She can’t be in the same room as an Asian man as a result of the trauma. Dare anyone here saying that makes her racist to say it to her face. | |||
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"It exists everywhere. It's often hidden on here and then passed off as 'preference'. It's very sad.
That’s a bit of a sweeping statement
If you dismiss a whole race because of the colour of their skin then there's definitely racism behind it. And you won't change my mind.
Straight men who won't fuck men are homophobic.
How can you even compare those two?
Straight men are straight, they are not interested in sex with men.
Now, people who say every black person on this fucking planet is unattractive are just close-minded and awful.
Have you ever thought that there may be something underlying? I do.
For all anyone knows that person could have been attacked by someone of the skin colour they don't want to meet and have dismissed them all based on past trauma.
I won't meet people with the same name or body shape as my ex for that very reason.
It wouldn't be fair on either of us coz I'd be jumpy and likely get really uncomfortable. That's not their fault, they'd feel awkward as fuck. Even though I know in my head they're not the same person, we can't control the triggers. If we could then PTSD etc would be a piece of piss to cure.
Another really solid piece of critical thinking and objectivity
My school friend was in and out of crown court a couple of years back giving evidence in a grooming gang case where she was identified as a victim. She can’t be in the same room as an Asian man as a result of the trauma. Dare anyone here saying that makes her racist to say it to her face. "Yes but surely that is completely different than dismissing someone just because you don't like Asians for no good reason?! I get that it's complex and there are definitely cases where you can understand why someone feels that way, you both give good examples above. I don't think your friend is racist so don't worry you don't have to dare me to go call her a racist.
I'm done with this thread now, keep arguing it if you want. But as I've said multiple times now, if you are dismissing a whole race for absolutely no reason and saying they're all unattractive and the same (which happens all of the time on here and in real life) then you're a racist. If there are underlying issues then I am open minded enough to realise that isn't down to racism.
Yes, I understand we do not know everyone's stories but the fact is there are people out there who pass their racism off as preference and those are the ones I am talking about.
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"All the rascists can suck my cut brown pakistani muslim cock.... fed up of these sick rascist people and their narrow minded remarks. Go get an effing holiday will u, nature is beautiful with ALL colours." That's them told! | |||
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"All the rascists can suck my cut brown pakistani muslim cock.... fed up of these sick rascist people and their narrow minded remarks. Go get an effing holiday will u, nature is beautiful with ALL colours." Does that mean you only want a blowjob from racists? | |||
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"To be fair, preferences / seclusions on here can't be read as proof of bigotry. I don't fancy the albino Fijian hermaphrodite octogenarian sheep herder that lives up the lane behind the post office ...but she's great company to chat with, outside of lambing season. Yes that's very specific tho, racism is more generic across the board. " I honestly think racism is a spectrum. It ranges from broad to specific. It can stem from ignorance to experience, from benign to malicious. I suspect we are all on that spectrum to some extent, though it terrifies most of us to imagine we are. Hence the OTT PCism and bigotry that's polarising the world right now. It's easy for me and others from the majority to air our views on racism. However it really is only people who experience it who really know what it is, how it manifests and what effects it has on their lives. I think when we debate red herrings like sexual partner preferences on here as a form of racism, we probably discourage people from minorities on here from posting and trying to explain to us what damaging racism really is. | |||
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"To be fair, preferences / seclusions on here can't be read as proof of bigotry. I don't fancy the albino Fijian hermaphrodite octogenarian sheep herder that lives up the lane behind the post office ...but she's great company to chat with, outside of lambing season. Yes that's very specific tho, racism is more generic across the board. I honestly think racism is a spectrum. It ranges from broad to specific. It can stem from ignorance to experience, from benign to malicious. I suspect we are all on that spectrum to some extent, though it terrifies most of us to imagine we are. Hence the OTT PCism and bigotry that's polarising the world right now. It's easy for me and others from the majority to air our views on racism. However it really is only people who experience it who really know what it is, how it manifests and what effects it has on their lives. I think when we debate red herrings like sexual partner preferences on here as a form of racism, we probably discourage people from minorities on here from posting and trying to explain to us what damaging racism really is." Yes. Thank you for that | |||
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"Expressing a sexual preference on the grounds of physical attraction is not racism. I do wish white people would stop "championing" that cause because all it does is create wider divisions. I have faced racism all of my life, something which white people never have, and I know what's racism and what isn't. This isn't. But what I see in here is people using their white privilege to determine for me what I should or shouldn't be offended by. Walk a mile in my shoes and you'll realise that on a scale of racism from 1 to 10, expressing a sexual preference based on skin colour doesn't even warrant a 1. Please stop making things worse for us " | |||
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"Can’t believe racism in here exists too. I thought we’re all here to have some fun and meet like minded people. " Yes. Some friends of ours have been hit with racism from a true bigot. Really vile comments. They reported it, sadly he is still on here. | |||
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"Racism will always exist, it is generally an extension of social cohesion, humans form social groups, groups form around common goals or ethics , groups with different but related values form bonds but groups with opposing values conflict , it's simply human nature and will never ever go away as long as humans are humans. Sorry if that hurts the left wing let's make love not war brigade but it's how the world is, it doesn't make everyone evil who wants to protect a social structure from those who want alter it, we all have different ideas about life and if we could all simply agree to disagree things would be a lot happier all round " Many things have always existed; poverty, cancer, murder, meteor strikes, doesn't mean combatting them is not a worthwhile ambition. | |||
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"Racism will always exist, it is generally an extension of social cohesion, humans form social groups, groups form around common goals or ethics , groups with different but related values form bonds but groups with opposing values conflict , it's simply human nature and will never ever go away as long as humans are humans. Sorry if that hurts the left wing let's make love not war brigade but it's how the world is, it doesn't make everyone evil who wants to protect a social structure from those who want alter it, we all have different ideas about life and if we could all simply agree to disagree things would be a lot happier all round Many things have always existed; poverty, cancer, murder, meteor strikes, doesn't mean combatting them is not a worthwhile ambition. " Smallpox will always exist. Jenner was a monster wanting to combat it, it's futile... Oh wait. | |||
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"Expressing a sexual preference on the grounds of physical attraction is not racism. I do wish white people would stop "championing" that cause because all it does is create wider divisions. I have faced racism all of my life, something which white people never have, and I know what's racism and what isn't. This isn't. But what I see in here is people using their white privilege to determine for me what I should or shouldn't be offended by. Walk a mile in my shoes and you'll realise that on a scale of racism from 1 to 10, expressing a sexual preference based on skin colour doesn't even warrant a 1. Please stop making things worse for us "Fantastic post. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, the most race obsessed people I’ve ever come across tend to be those who consider themselves “anti racist”. | |||
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"Expressing a sexual preference on the grounds of physical attraction is not racism. I do wish white people would stop "championing" that cause because all it does is create wider divisions. I have faced racism all of my life, something which white people never have, and I know what's racism and what isn't. This isn't. But what I see in here is people using their white privilege to determine for me what I should or shouldn't be offended by. Walk a mile in my shoes and you'll realise that on a scale of racism from 1 to 10, expressing a sexual preference based on skin colour doesn't even warrant a 1. Please stop making things worse for us
Fantastic post.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, the most race obsessed people I’ve ever come across tend to be those who consider themselves “anti racist”. "I'd hate to come across as some sort of white saviour. Shudders* I'd hope to be called out if I did. | |||
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"Expressing a sexual preference on the grounds of physical attraction is not racism. I do wish white people would stop "championing" that cause because all it does is create wider divisions. I have faced racism all of my life, something which white people never have, and I know what's racism and what isn't. This isn't. But what I see in here is people using their white privilege to determine for me what I should or shouldn't be offended by. Walk a mile in my shoes and you'll realise that on a scale of racism from 1 to 10, expressing a sexual preference based on skin colour doesn't even warrant a 1. Please stop making things worse for us
Fantastic post.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, the most race obsessed people I’ve ever come across tend to be those who consider themselves “anti racist”.
I'd hate to come across as some sort of white saviour. Shudders* I'd hope to be called out if I did. "Sadly...sometimes you do... | |||
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"It's not correct to say people with white skin cannot or do not experience racism (in response to various posts above). There's not just one white race or ethnicity in the world and if we consider racism on the global level, there's definitely racism towards people with white skin. Towards Jews is one example, and there's many more. Racism is any prejudice based on race or ethnicity and skin colour is not the only marker of ethnicity." It is not due to the fact that they are white though. | |||
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"It's not correct to say people with white skin cannot or do not experience racism (in response to various posts above). There's not just one white race or ethnicity in the world and if we consider racism on the global level, there's definitely racism towards people with white skin. Towards Jews is one example, and there's many more. Racism is any prejudice based on race or ethnicity and skin colour is not the only marker of ethnicity. It is not due to the fact that they are white though." In some parts of the world it is. Racism exists in all races, all skin colours are capable of being racist towards all others. In parts of Africa for example. In the west, quite clearly the dominant racists are Caucasian, largely because the population %. Obviously not everyone but still. In the east, or parts of Africa, guess who are the dominant racists? And guess who are the targets of such racism. China as a country (again not every single person, but in general) are hugely racist towards black people. Oh look, its not just Caucasian that are capable of racism. Hate towards other skin colours and tones is not exclusive to Caucasian. However those of us in the west won't ever know what it is like to be victims of such racism, but there are in other parts of the world that know full well what it is like. For me, people are just people. There are no white people, or black people, or brown people or whatever. You are your nationality mixed in with your country of residence, and nothing more. My view of somebody comes from their mentality towards others and how they treat others. | |||
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"It's not correct to say people with white skin cannot or do not experience racism (in response to various posts above). There's not just one white race or ethnicity in the world and if we consider racism on the global level, there's definitely racism towards people with white skin. Towards Jews is one example, and there's many more. Racism is any prejudice based on race or ethnicity and skin colour is not the only marker of ethnicity. It is not due to the fact that they are white though." That's because racism isn't just prejudice due to skin colour. It's prejudice against minority ethnic groups and ethnicity isn't just about skin colour. There's racism against people with dark skin tones by other groups with dark skin tones - just look at the Indian subcontinent or inter-ethnic group persecution such as the Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda. The Tutsis are a minority ethnic group in that geographic area. Racism drove that episode. We look at the world through our own prism, so the West generally sees racism predominantly (but not exclusively) as something perpetrated on black people by white people. But within those descriptors "black" and "white", there's multiple ethnic groups involved. In the USA right now, racism against people of various East Asian ethnicities is on the rise, presumably due to the former president calling Covid "Kung Flu". East Asian people are not only being discriminated against by people with white skin. Racism does occur all over the world, as much as we'd like to think it's the preserve of the West and it can and does impact people (globally) of all different skin tones. | |||
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"Expressing a sexual preference on the grounds of physical attraction is not racism. I do wish white people would stop "championing" that cause because all it does is create wider divisions. I have faced racism all of my life, something which white people never have, and I know what's racism and what isn't. This isn't. But what I see in here is people using their white privilege to determine for me what I should or shouldn't be offended by. Walk a mile in my shoes and you'll realise that on a scale of racism from 1 to 10, expressing a sexual preference based on skin colour doesn't even warrant a 1. Please stop making things worse for us
Fantastic post.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, the most race obsessed people I’ve ever come across tend to be those who consider themselves “anti racist”.
I'd hate to come across as some sort of white saviour. Shudders* I'd hope to be called out if I did.
Sadly...sometimes you do... "Not quite the section of society I was looking for to be called out by, but I'll take it on board. | |||
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"Expressing a sexual preference on the grounds of physical attraction is not racism. I do wish white people would stop "championing" that cause because all it does is create wider divisions. I have faced racism all of my life, something which white people never have, and I know what's racism and what isn't. This isn't. But what I see in here is people using their white privilege to determine for me what I should or shouldn't be offended by. Walk a mile in my shoes and you'll realise that on a scale of racism from 1 to 10, expressing a sexual preference based on skin colour doesn't even warrant a 1. Please stop making things worse for us
Fantastic post.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, the most race obsessed people I’ve ever come across tend to be those who consider themselves “anti racist”.
I'd hate to come across as some sort of white saviour. Shudders* I'd hope to be called out if I did.
Sadly...sometimes you do...
Not quite the section of society I was looking for to be called out by, but I'll take it on board. "And what section of society am.I ? Based on your preduces of course | |||
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"Expressing a sexual preference on the grounds of physical attraction is not racism. I do wish white people would stop "championing" that cause because all it does is create wider divisions. I have faced racism all of my life, something which white people never have, and I know what's racism and what isn't. This isn't. But what I see in here is people using their white privilege to determine for me what I should or shouldn't be offended by. Walk a mile in my shoes and you'll realise that on a scale of racism from 1 to 10, expressing a sexual preference based on skin colour doesn't even warrant a 1. Please stop making things worse for us
Fantastic post.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, the most race obsessed people I’ve ever come across tend to be those who consider themselves “anti racist”.
I'd hate to come across as some sort of white saviour. Shudders* I'd hope to be called out if I did.
Sadly...sometimes you do...
Not quite the section of society I was looking for to be called out by, but I'll take it on board.
And what section of society am.I ?
Based on your preduces of course"You're a white bloke from essex. I'm a white bloke from Kent. Both from very poor backgrounds. I'd say similar sections of society. Would you disagree? | |||
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"Racism will always exist, it is generally an extension of social cohesion, humans form social groups, groups form around common goals or ethics , groups with different but related values form bonds but groups with opposing values conflict , it's simply human nature and will never ever go away as long as humans are humans. Sorry if that hurts the left wing let's make love not war brigade but it's how the world is, it doesn't make everyone evil who wants to protect a social structure from those who want alter it, we all have different ideas about life and if we could all simply agree to disagree things would be a lot happier all round " So its just lefty hippies getting upset then is it? ...and its ok because its just people protecting a social structure....well with this argument we would still have feudalism and most of us be serfs to our local Lord....Bloody lefty hippies getting us voting, sick pay, pensions, the NHS etc If only those lefty hippies had left things as they were and just learned to get along with their fuedal Lords, everyone would have been happier! | |||
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"Racism will always exist, it is generally an extension of social cohesion, humans form social groups, groups form around common goals or ethics , groups with different but related values form bonds but groups with opposing values conflict , it's simply human nature and will never ever go away as long as humans are humans. Sorry if that hurts the left wing let's make love not war brigade but it's how the world is, it doesn't make everyone evil who wants to protect a social structure from those who want alter it, we all have different ideas about life and if we could all simply agree to disagree things would be a lot happier all round So its just lefty hippies getting upset then is it? ...and its ok because its just people protecting a social structure....well with this argument we would still have feudalism and most of us be serfs to our local Lord....Bloody lefty hippies getting us voting, sick pay, pensions, the NHS etc If only those lefty hippies had left things as they were and just learned to get along with their fuedal Lords, everyone would have been happier! "Are you a leftie hippy by any chance? | |||
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"Racism will always exist, it is generally an extension of social cohesion, humans form social groups, groups form around common goals or ethics , groups with different but related values form bonds but groups with opposing values conflict , it's simply human nature and will never ever go away as long as humans are humans. Sorry if that hurts the left wing let's make love not war brigade but it's how the world is, it doesn't make everyone evil who wants to protect a social structure from those who want alter it, we all have different ideas about life and if we could all simply agree to disagree things would be a lot happier all round So its just lefty hippies getting upset then is it? ...and its ok because its just people protecting a social structure....well with this argument we would still have feudalism and most of us be serfs to our local Lord....Bloody lefty hippies getting us voting, sick pay, pensions, the NHS etc If only those lefty hippies had left things as they were and just learned to get along with their fuedal Lords, everyone would have been happier!
Are you a leftie hippy by any chance?"Id love to be | |||
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