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Who’s in the wrong?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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On a visit to a well known club with my female play buddy we played in the a room with a sizeable audience watching through the glass, by a mixture of couples and the usual wanking zombies. After a bit we paused, headed out of the room and we stepped into one half of the gloryhole booths together. In no time a cock pokes through. Well after a brief discussion we decided it was my turn, and I did what is natural. Later we’re in the bar area having a drink and a guy sidles up and thanks my partner for ‘the gloryhole’. She just laughs and said ‘thank him, not me.’
At this point the guy goes mental, swearing and threatening; upset that a bloke had sucked him off. I told him fuck off (being a big scary looking bloke has its benefits) that if he wanted to be sure who was blowing him he shouldn’t pop himself through gloryholes. He was politely asked to leave the club by the owners; but I did get the impression a number of others there shared his view.
Who’s in the right? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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His fault.
Given its a club and anyone can be on the other side he could have enquired I guess, but he never so its on him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He's in the wrong, as you shoukd never assume! |
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"His fault.
Given its a club and anyone can be on the other side he could have enquired I guess, but he never so its on him."
Agreed  |
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I’m assuming this was post covid? However I’d say he’s at fault, he saw you both go in and didn’t say ‘only the lady can put my appendage in her mouth’
So he had a 50/50 chance and didn’t like side of the coin he got! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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His fault.
That's the whole thing about gloryholes. You just don't know. Fucking idiot he was. |
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"His fault.
Given its a club and anyone can be on the other side he could have enquired I guess, but he never so its on him.Agreed "
I thought swingers prided themselves on their clear communication with play partners |
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Surely it’s part of the excitement not knowing who’s at the other side?! Definitely his fault xx |
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And that's why I won't use gloryholes.
You take your chance, simple as that. If you're in any way concerned about who it may be touching you, stay away.
I know full well I'd feel violated if it was someone I'd refused play with, therefore I don't put myself in that situation where it stands a good chance of happening. |
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He had an entitled attitude, if he sticks his cock through a hole he gets to choose who plays with it. He took a chance it would be the woman and it wasn’t, so he learned a lesson that day. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Isnt that kinda the point of gloryholes?
That you dont know who's on the other side?
Bloke sounds like a total muppet |
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"His fault.
That's the whole thing about gloryholes. You just don't know. Fucking idiot he was. "
This   |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The replies have reaffirmed my belief that ‘you pop it through, you take the risk!’
That’s the whole thrill on both sides isn’t it? |
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Is it wrong that I giggled slightly at this  |
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Your wife's.
She should not turn down the opportunity of sucking a hard cock x |
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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago
Chippenham Malmesbury area |
That's why I'm not a fan of glory holes, if I'm getting a BJ, I'd like it to be from a female.
I believe that the guy was wrong OP, the whole idea of a glory holes is the mystery. |
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By *renzMan
over a year ago
Between Chichester and Havant |
This is the reason I would never use one, because I couldn't be certain who was the other side.
His fault for assuming. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Definitely his fault.
a. you can look through and see who's who a lot of the time, so you can check.
b. if you just shove it through, expect whoever is there to blow you if they want to.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is it wrong that I giggled slightly at this "
It’s almost as funny as the guys who ask for a threesome and when we explained we want a proper threesome, not just sharing the female, still maintain they’re bi.
Claire’s favourite then was to invite them into the room and tell them to bend over, cos she wanted to watch first. Always got rid of about 80%. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is it wrong that I giggled slightly at this "
Not at all :P |
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By *exfordMan
over a year ago
discombobulated land |
"On a visit to a well known club with my female play buddy we played in the a room with a sizeable audience watching through the glass, by a mixture of couples and the usual wanking zombies. After a bit we paused, headed out of the room and we stepped into one half of the gloryhole booths together. In no time a cock pokes through. Well after a brief discussion we decided it was my turn, and I did what is natural. Later we’re in the bar area having a drink and a guy sidles up and thanks my partner for ‘the gloryhole’. She just laughs and said ‘thank him, not me.’
At this point the guy goes mental, swearing and threatening; upset that a bloke had sucked him off. I told him fuck off (being a big scary looking bloke has its benefits) that if he wanted to be sure who was blowing him he shouldn’t pop himself through gloryholes. He was politely asked to leave the club by the owners; but I did get the impression a number of others there shared his view.
Who’s in the right? "
That is hilarious  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Did he cum? |
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Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though |
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By *xhib12Man
over a year ago
Blyth |
Should have just told him that there's no biological difference between a male and a female mouth anyway |
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though"
You go in blind almost. They're darkened areas where you can't see who's there.
I've seen people thrown out of clubs for taking a little torch with them to try and "cheat" to see who's on the other side. |
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though
You go in blind almost. They're darkened areas where you can't see who's there.
I've seen people thrown out of clubs for taking a little torch with them to try and "cheat" to see who's on the other side."
So is the onus entirely on the person sticking their cock through to establish the gender of the person the other side ?
I feel really naive 
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He wasn’t dragged into the booth and forced to do anything. He could have chatted to the couple before he stuck his dick through the hole as well.
If he’s so naive to glory holes and what can happen in a club, maybe he shouldn’t attend them in the first place or ensure he communicate with others first. |
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Most Men look through the hole first, and at the Attic they peep over the top. It's funny seeing Men later and not knowing who it was |
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"He wasn’t dragged into the booth and forced to do anything. He could have chatted to the couple before he stuck his dick through the hole as well.
If he’s so naive to glory holes and what can happen in a club, maybe he shouldn’t attend them in the first place or ensure he communicate with others first. "
I'd be really naive as to the circumstances. |
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though
You go in blind almost. They're darkened areas where you can't see who's there.
I've seen people thrown out of clubs for taking a little torch with them to try and "cheat" to see who's on the other side.
So is the onus entirely on the person sticking their cock through to establish the gender of the person the other side ?
I feel really naive
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Pretty much, and that's only if they manage to catch a glimpse of who's going in. Most of the time you don't know if there's anyone on the other side or not and you hit n hope
They're like little cubicles down a dark hallway with holes in either side. If you're sucking a dick one side and turn round too quickly you can get jabbed in the eye by one poking through the other side you didn't realise was there
In the same way you could be sucking a cock, turn to suck the other one on the opposing side and while you're doing that cock number one has left the cubicle and someone else is now there. So instead of returning to suck cock number 1, you in fact end up sucking cock number 3!
I bet i made that sound much harder than it should have been to explain |
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By *rder66Man
over a year ago
Tatooine |
Certainly his fault. I don't use them but I would have thought not knowing which of you had sucked him off would be part of the excitement. |
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though
You go in blind almost. They're darkened areas where you can't see who's there.
I've seen people thrown out of clubs for taking a little torch with them to try and "cheat" to see who's on the other side.
So is the onus entirely on the person sticking their cock through to establish the gender of the person the other side ?
I feel really naive
Pretty much, and that's only if they manage to catch a glimpse of who's going in. Most of the time you don't know if there's anyone on the other side or not and you hit n hope
They're like little cubicles down a dark hallway with holes in either side. If you're sucking a dick one side and turn round too quickly you can get jabbed in the eye by one poking through the other side you didn't realise was there
In the same way you could be sucking a cock, turn to suck the other one on the opposing side and while you're doing that cock number one has left the cubicle and someone else is now there. So instead of returning to suck cock number 1, you in fact end up sucking cock number 3!
I bet i made that sound much harder than it should have been to explain "
So like musical cock sucking?  .
See now, I'd always assumed that you'd know the gender if not the identity of the person the other side.
I feel I've learned something today. |
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?? “But you never really know who’s sucking on the other side ...” ?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Haha that’s brilliant totally brilliant made my day and made me laugh
That’s totally his fault not yours he put it there assuming it would be the mrs doing what he wanted as he probably rushed there expecting it and got the shock of his life after the problem is in his head it was her he was loving it and liked it a lot more than he let on
That’s his lesson in life learnt never ever assume anything and never stick your dick in any hole without knowing everything as it will always get you in trouble haha
What a plonker and well done you |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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That’s the thrill, the not knowing.
I’ve been at saunas and then spotted the guys coming out of the booth and thinking ‘glad I didn’t risk that’ |
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"Haha that’s brilliant totally brilliant made my day and made me laugh
That’s totally his fault not yours he put it there assuming it would be the mrs doing what he wanted as he probably rushed there expecting it and got the shock of his life after the problem is in his head it was her he was loving it and liked it a lot more than he let on
That’s his lesson in life learnt never ever assume anything and never stick your dick in any hole without knowing everything as it will always get you in trouble haha
What a plonker and well done you "
Could be a bear trap on the other side!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Could be a bear trap on the other side!
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I think Sunday is Bear day. |
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Personally I (Mr) would never go in but I would say you were both at fault.
Or at least both made incorrect assumptions.
Him assuming it would be the female and you for not asking if he was okay being blown by a guy plus as scary as you think you maybe, you too had no idea who was on the other side so that could have ended badly. |
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Could be a bear trap on the other side!
I think Sunday is Bear day. "
I just can't cope.
Imagine walking out putting your cock away with a feeling of "corrrrr, that was ace" and then someone coming out the next cubicle wiping their coldsore covered mouth.
The risks are far too great for me to be even semi comfortable heading in there. |
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"On a visit to a well known club with my female play buddy we played in the a room with a sizeable audience watching through the glass, by a mixture of couples and the usual wanking zombies. After a bit we paused, headed out of the room and we stepped into one half of the gloryhole booths together. In no time a cock pokes through. Well after a brief discussion we decided it was my turn, and I did what is natural. Later we’re in the bar area having a drink and a guy sidles up and thanks my partner for ‘the gloryhole’. She just laughs and said ‘thank him, not me.’
At this point the guy goes mental, swearing and threatening; upset that a bloke had sucked him off. I told him fuck off (being a big scary looking bloke has its benefits) that if he wanted to be sure who was blowing him he shouldn’t pop himself through gloryholes. He was politely asked to leave the club by the owners; but I did get the impression a number of others there shared his view.
Who’s in the right? "
Obviously he's wrong, but congratulations on giving such good head!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’ve only used the Gloryholes at Chams where you can see through the top wholes who’s playing with your cock. There were a situations where the man tried to have a go so I’m just pulling my cock out of the whole in that case. |
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"Personally I (Mr) would never go in but I would say you were both at fault.
Or at least both made incorrect assumptions.
Him assuming it would be the female and you for not asking if he was okay being blown by a guy plus as scary as you think you maybe, you too had no idea who was on the other side so that could have ended badly. "
I'm sort of feeling this way too.
obviously I don't fully understand having never experienced this sort of thing. But the guy clearly didn’t understand that it could have been a man the other side. Why is this entirely his fault? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I'm sort of feeling this way too.
obviously I don't fully understand having never experienced this sort of thing. But the guy clearly didn’t understand that it could have been a man the other side. Why is this entirely his fault? "
Either a) he’d seen us both go in, so knew it was a 50% chance.
b) Hadn’t seen us go in at all, still a 50% chance.
It’s Schrodinger’s Cat for the Swinging fraternity!
Presumption is the mother of all fuck ups. |
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"Personally I (Mr) would never go in but I would say you were both at fault.
Or at least both made incorrect assumptions.
Him assuming it would be the female and you for not asking if he was okay being blown by a guy plus as scary as you think you maybe, you too had no idea who was on the other side so that could have ended badly.
I'm sort of feeling this way too.
obviously I don't fully understand having never experienced this sort of thing. But the guy clearly didn’t understand that it could have been a man the other side. Why is this entirely his fault? "
If you take the decision to stick your willy in a hole without knowing who is on the other side you cannot complain if it's not who you think it is, a glory Hole is anonymous therefore its his fault for assuming |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've never been to a club. But I can only assume that if you poke your dick through a glory hole, you can never be 100% sure who's sucking it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've never been to a club. But I can only assume that if you poke your dick through a glory hole, you can never be 100% sure who's sucking it?"
A lucky dip ? |
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By *ad-HunterMan
over a year ago
near Watford / hemel / St Albans |
Well when I was much younger around 22 i was with a slightly older couple in my local and we were getting on really well kinda light flirting , and after a few drinks was invited back to theirs as I'd clicked with them both really well and the drinking and flirting continued . So it was getting late and they didnt hint at all for me to be leaving anytime soon and both of them all evening had lightly touched me , not rudely but just friendly pats or a rub while laughing. And some little daring cheeky pecks on the cheek too and with the light on a low dimming setting the daring lingering touches began more and more and the husband was just as much encouraging the whole scenario till eventually the touching led to the loosening of in slow motion of all of our clothes and I'm making loads of eye contact with him so as to make sure he is 100% ok with where this was heading as I'd never been in this situation before . Then the kissing and more loosening of the clothes and then with us both sat either side of her he gives her a nod and says go on .. she kisses him and then turns to me and offers me a blowjob only if I was blindfolded and the light was off .
I was like HELL yeah with a swift move from him passing me what I thought was a scarf he got up and helped me put it on when I felt it had so kind of Velcro fastening to it which he helped me with it and he kinda dragged his had softly but at the same time was eroticaly reassuring and I proceeded to pull my trousers off with the help of I guess her and then feeling her hands on my thighs moving up towards my briefs rubbing my now semi hard cock .... I also could feel his hands drape across my chest and abs as he said " good Lad " in a soft voice ... and they both kept on touching me all over but still not revealing my cock which was now rock hard .
I felt her nails run the line of the elastic and gently took hold and I lifted my ass up to help the ease of releasing my cock and to take them off . Well as she took hold of my cock I could also sense him moving to be near her in front of me as I felt her warm hands grasp my shaft and her hot breath and me shaking nervously I then went into a trance as she took my cock in her mouth and again he said " good Lad, just relax and enjoy this " and he still carried on touching me also on my thighs now too getting closer to my cock area where she was busy licking and gently sucking me then I could feel his fingers drag across my balls and I took a deep nervous breath and this time she said " you ok"? To which I replied " ahah ( a breath and then ) yeahh " just as she started to deepthroat my cock right down he cupped my balls in his hand squeezing lightly . I could feel both of them now against my thighs and still his hands explored further to also now touch my shaft while she sucked and could feel her hands and smooth nails on my ribcage gently scratching . Their heads now mus have been almost touching as all of a sudden I felt his lips kiss me just below my reply button .... " OMFG " I said and she lifted off my cock and said again "ok?" Breathing erratically I said Yeahh then the blowjob continued but it felt slightly different and at the same time my balls were now being licked and sucked as well.....
WoW this was all in slow motion ( tantric as I later found out )
The blowjob gradually became more pressure from being sucked and now my stomach was tenseing as I was getting near to dimming then the mouth that was attending my balls moved up to share the licking and sucking of my cock . So although I knew they were both giving me head ... nor did I care as now I was so so so close and said " I'm not far from " and all of a sudden one mouth took control and turned into what I can only describe as a Dyson Hoover and I was Cumming hard and fast and the sucking continued until my whole body went limp with exhaustion then the other mouth took over and gently took my cock and I heard him say " WoW what a good Lad you are , you're gonna have to revisit us "
My blindfold still on I instantly said " DEFINITELY "
And I did .... a good few times .
SO I never questioned the fact of him sucking my cock .... as far as I was concerned my cock was well worshipped by them both and I didn't care . I LOVED IT .
Sorry for sharing my long BUT true story on your thread |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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At a well known club a long time ago a stunning lady and her partner entered the club and to say they turned heads was an understatement. She was beyond gorgeous and he was 6’4” with muscles in his eye lids a fine specimen of the male physique.
Later that evening I was in the downstairs area watching a bdsm session when in walked the said couple followed by a gaggle of chaps. The couple paused a while then went into the glory hole together and closed the curtain.
No one and I mean no one went near the apertures as quite frankly the 50-50 odds were just to risky.
About 10 blokes in towels all stood staring into the ground or at the ceiling............the moral of the story don’t go down in glory! |
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I wonder if anyone's had a swollen schlong or anaphylaxis from getting a blowie in a gloryhole from someone who's eaten something they're allergic to.
I wonder if that's something they even think about?
This is how my brain works, people say I ovethink things. I think I just look at the bigger picture and potential consequences |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"His fault.
That's the whole thing about gloryholes. You just don't know. Fucking idiot he was. "
^^^^^^^ 1000% his own fault. If you put yourself in that position sure anyone can suck you off. He should have said females only or whatever... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I wonder if anyone's had a swollen schlong or anaphylaxis from getting a blowie in a gloryhole from someone who's eaten something they're allergic to.
I wonder if that's something they even think about?
This is how my brain works, people say I ovethink things. I think I just look at the bigger picture and potential consequences "
You’d spend your whole life worrying about any interaction, sexual or not. |
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"I wonder if anyone's had a swollen schlong or anaphylaxis from getting a blowie in a gloryhole from someone who's eaten something they're allergic to.
I wonder if that's something they even think about?
This is how my brain works, people say I ovethink things. I think I just look at the bigger picture and potential consequences
You’d spend your whole life worrying about any interaction, sexual or not. "
And that's why I'm happy in my safe hermit house. |
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Entirely HIS fault.
Not only did he choose to take a chance by using a glory hole, he knew there was a couple the other side, so knew there was only a 50% chance of being serviced by the lady.
Besides, he clearly enjoyed it at the time, so what was his problem - other than being homophobic? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is it wrong that I giggled slightly at this "
Us too |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is it wrong that I giggled slightly at this
Us too "
It is actually funny
Probably the best BJ he ever had but the fact he freaked out when he found out it was a guy who pleasured him is hilarious...maybe you've swayed him to bi op |
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He’s in the wrong to assume it was a lady doing the sucking.
It was also very amusing to read |
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By *jonesMan
over a year ago
Plymouth |
In general , unless it's a bi night I think it's reasonable to assume or indeed expect it's a lady in the cubicle..I dont think it's meant to be a total surprise lucky dip as to whether you get a guy sucking you off or not.
I have seen couples go in and sometimes it's clear it's the lady doing the sucking ..other times if unsure I wouldn't be interested.
I think the guy had a right to be aggrieved as I suspect there was an element of intended deceit by the couple...they could easily have just said it's the Male now ...if you are still interested...
They new some of the guys partaking would not have wanted a bj from a guy ...
Its deceitful non consensual behaviour I think ... |
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"In general , unless it's a bi night I think it's reasonable to assume or indeed expect it's a lady in the cubicle..I dont think it's meant to be a total surprise lucky dip as to whether you get a guy sucking you off or not.
I have seen couples go in and sometimes it's clear it's the lady doing the sucking ..other times if unsure I wouldn't be interested.
I think the guy had a right to be aggrieved as I suspect there was an element of intended deceit by the couple...they could easily have just said it's the Male now ...if you are still interested...
They new some of the guys partaking would not have wanted a bj from a guy ...
Its deceitful non consensual behaviour I think ..."
Meh could have asked through the hole |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Could be a bear trap on the other side!
I think Sunday is Bear day.
I just can't cope.
Imagine walking out putting your cock away with a feeling of "corrrrr, that was ace" and then someone coming out the next cubicle wiping their coldsore covered mouth.
The risks are far too great for me to be even semi comfortable heading in there."
and there goes my gloryhole fantasy too... Pop!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"In general , unless it's a bi night I think it's reasonable to assume or indeed expect it's a lady in the cubicle..I dont think it's meant to be a total surprise lucky dip as to whether you get a guy sucking you off or not.
I have seen couples go in and sometimes it's clear it's the lady doing the sucking ..other times if unsure I wouldn't be interested.
I think the guy had a right to be aggrieved as I suspect there was an element of intended deceit by the couple...they could easily have just said it's the Male now ...if you are still interested...
They new some of the guys partaking would not have wanted a bj from a guy ...
Its deceitful non consensual behaviour I think ..."
But woukd you expect the female to declare herself ? Double standards?
I agree that you poke your dick through a hole you are taking a gamble and hoping it is what/who you imagine..
Seems the real issue here is the guy approaching the couple ... He was happy in his ignorance until he discovered it was the guy sucking..
But my Q to the OP is how did you know whose dick you sucked if it's anonymous? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"His fault.
That's the whole thing about gloryholes. You just don't know. Fucking idiot he was. "
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By *igfun911Man
over a year ago
East Lancashire |
"He had an entitled attitude, if he sticks his cock through a hole he gets to choose who plays with it. He took a chance it would be the woman and it wasn’t, so he learned a lesson that day. "
Perfectly put |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Well I presume it was him, given it was the only one popped through during our time in there and he approached us afterwards! |
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over a year ago
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His own fault
Never assume |
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Definitely you. He sounds like a highly strung dope. |
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Bloke was a bell end, and asked to leave of course he should have been .
Membership suspended too i hope.
Look before you leap ! |
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Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups .. so they say.
If it was my husband he’d be upset about it as he’s not at all attracted to men but he wouldn’t kick off, he’d probably just scrub his cock and feel a bit sick whilst I laughed at his discomfort.
Seriously though, he’d never go into a glory hole for this very reason. It was silly of the other man to assume only ladies would be on the other side.
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"His own fault
Never assume "
I guess he learnt a valuable lesson there |
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"That’s the thrill, the not knowing.
I’ve been at saunas and then spotted the guys coming out of the booth and thinking ‘glad I didn’t risk that’ "
This is hilarious. What's the risk? If it's enjoyable, why would you care? And what if you never knew, but went about your life thinking it was a woman?
I think the biggest risk in sticking your knob through a dark hole is not knowing if it'd come out in one piece or not. (True, not really a risk in a club). |
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By *h86Man
over a year ago
Glos |
The whole point of a gloryhole is that its anonymous, in a mixed sex club you take that chance! Guy is probably just upset that he got a bj from a guy and enjoyed it.
Moral of the story? Dont go sticking your junk in strange places or things might happen |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you stick your todger through a hole and get an amazing blowjob and really enjoy it then surely it doesn't matter whether it was from a bloke or a woman? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well I presume it was him, given it was the only one popped through during our time in there and he approached us afterwards! "
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"If you stick your todger through a hole and get an amazing blowjob and really enjoy it then surely it doesn't matter whether it was from a bloke or a woman?"
it didn’t until he knew he’s caught the ghey |
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Definately his problem - what an arse! These things are best not worried about but laughed at in due course - don't concern yourself - it's actually a good story for those with a broad mind and sense of humour! |
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"Is it wrong that I giggled slightly at this
Us too
It is actually funny
Probably the best BJ he ever had but the fact he freaked out when he found out it was a guy who pleasured him is hilarious...maybe you've swayed him to bi op "
One of the funniest posts I've seen on here, ever ... Great stuff, anyone got any more stories like this?
And yes, we agree that the op was just fine, the other guy was taking a punt, and it backfired for him ... Oh well, all part of the richness of the swinging life |
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By *inranWoman
over a year ago
Dudley |
I would think if you want to be at all selective in who sucks your cock it's best not to post it through anonymous holes.
I think he was completely wrong.
Guy, girl, big, small, old, young you have no control over and that's the point.
You can only assume that it's somebody who meets the club criteria. If you went to a male guy club you could be passed off if a woman sucked your cock. But in a club for all orientation of male and female. You take that chance. |
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The other guy was in the wrong.
Mind you it will teach him not to stick his cock in holes in clubs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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His and schoolboy error! always have a wingman/woman on the other side! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Lesson 101... dont go sticking your sausage through holes in walls. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He was in the wrong I’d say. |
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By *irginieWoman
over a year ago
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Both are wrong and if I was the club owner I’d have thrown you all out
To assume it’s ok to touch someone, anyone, even a cock in a glory hole is appalling behaviour. If you touch, then always ensure you have consent. As a woman who had a relationship with a bi man we would often love to share a glory hole but one of us would always do a teasing “oooh I wonder who you’re going to get” joke. If the cock disappeared then that’s our answer.
Everyone in this story behaved badly during snd after.
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"Entirely HIS fault.
Not only did he choose to take a chance by using a glory hole, he knew there was a couple the other side, so knew there was only a 50% chance of being serviced by the lady.
Besides, he clearly enjoyed it at the time, so what was his problem - other than being homophobic?"
As most people have said it was blatantly the other persons fault as he put it In there knowing there was a male and a female inside and he should have just enjoyed what happened and moved on and not have approached them after - blissful ignorance and all that.
However I hate seeing ‘ic’ ‘ist’ and ‘ism’ words thrown round at every opportunity. Being upset at finding out a male has sucked his cock does NOT make him homophobic. It makes him stupid for the assumption but how can you say he’s homophobic? I wouldn’t want a male sucking hubby’s cock and nor would he ... that doesn’t make either of us homophobic it’s just our preference. |
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By *ensualMan
over a year ago
Sutton |
I think both were wrong. I think the receiver was completely wrong in his response but I can understand why he was upset. The assumption a lot of people on the thread are making is that gloryholes are there for complete anonymity, including gender, rather than anonymity of the women giving oral sex. I remember Kestrels' gloryhole being signposted with men one end and women the other. My assumption of a couple going in together would be that the husband liked to watch and or direct (as happened at Kestrels). Unless it was bi night which Kestrels had on a Monday. Therefore it is not an automatic assumption that the male partner is bi.
Also, I am not a believer in the "it's all meat argument". People have preferences and no matter how stupid you may feel someone's preference is, they are entitled to it. It seems strange that people can have all sorts of preferences but not gender. I do not see any criticism of gay men or woman for only wanting their own gender (nor should there be).
Further,as said above by consent should be explicit rather than taken for granted in any situation (kink consent rule 101).
As for the dark room situation, my own view is that, there is a criminal prosecution in waiting there. |
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"His fault.
That's the whole thing about gloryholes. You just don't know. Fucking idiot he was.
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Very seldom I blame or point finger at people but in this case I agree 100% to all 3 phrases and the double thumbs up.
Glad that he got kicked out.
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over a year ago
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If I hadn't read about glory holes on here I would of assumed that women are always behind them and that bi nights would be made clear before entering. So I can understand why the man felt like that. |
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This reminds me for some reason of the woodpecker song... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My goodness, i'd just be grateful for that to be able to happen right now lol
Without doubt, you put your cock through hole, you have to be ok with not knowing who's going to suck it..... |
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"On a visit to a well known club with my female play buddy we played in the a room with a sizeable audience watching through the glass, by a mixture of couples and the usual wanking zombies. After a bit we paused, headed out of the room and we stepped into one half of the gloryhole booths together. In no time a cock pokes through. Well after a brief discussion we decided it was my turn, and I did what is natural. Later we’re in the bar area having a drink and a guy sidles up and thanks my partner for ‘the gloryhole’. She just laughs and said ‘thank him, not me.’
At this point the guy goes mental, swearing and threatening; upset that a bloke had sucked him off. I told him fuck off (being a big scary looking bloke has its benefits) that if he wanted to be sure who was blowing him he shouldn’t pop himself through gloryholes. He was politely asked to leave the club by the owners; but I did get the impression a number of others there shared his view.
Who’s in the right? "
Absolutely his fault haha!
Exactly what gloryholes were intended for.
And the reason I always know who’s in the room but not who it is at SX gloryholes ha x |
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This is getting over complicated IMHO.
It's not really our thing, despite being club regulars we have basically no experience of glory holes, and even to me, Chris, its always been pretty obvious that if you stick your cock through a hole you take your chances.
We've seen a fair bit of male bi play on regular and couples nights, so unless there's an explicit set of instructions up about who is allowed where I'd consider it always a possibility a guy will be on the other side. |
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over a year ago
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I must admit for once his fault should have made sure who was on the other side especially in a sex club but in still surprised he never went for you. |
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over a year ago
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"This reminds me for some reason of the woodpecker song... "
Omg haha, are you Forces background? |
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"suck it....."
OMG, I love it when a guy says that to me  Anyway, I agree with previous comments, if it was a 'Bi' club day then the guy has no argument to be angry, whereas if it was a 'Straight' club day, then my feelings are OP is that you really shouldn't have gone on your knees and gobbled the lovely cock that was poking through the gloryhole, no matter how tempting xx |
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"This reminds me for some reason of the woodpecker song...
Omg haha, are you Forces background? "
No... Rugby...
But can't read this without "I put my finger in the woodpeckers hole and the woodpecker said...." |
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"Should have just told him that there's no biological difference between a male and a female mouth anyway"
There is a psychological difference that plays a big part and that is what matters more.
Both were in the wrong, the sex of the person on the other side should be obvious and don't stick your dick in what you can't see.
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"Should have just told him that there's no biological difference between a male and a female mouth anyway There is a psychological difference that plays a big part and that is what matters more.
Both were in the wrong, the sex of the person on the other side should be obvious and don't stick your dick in what you can't see.
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Take it out, take it out, take it out, remove it. |
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"Take it out, take it out, take it out, remove it. "
Noooo, stick it through, stick it through, stick it through xx |
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Surely that's the whole point of glory holes the thrill of not knowing |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This reminds me for some reason of the woodpecker song...
Omg haha, are you Forces background?
No... Rugby...
But can't read this without "I put my finger in the woodpeckers hole and the woodpecker said....""
My DD sings it to me all the time.. I'd never heard of it before haha |
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"This reminds me for some reason of the woodpecker song...
Omg haha, are you Forces background?
No... Rugby...
But can't read this without "I put my finger in the woodpeckers hole and the woodpecker said...."
My DD sings it to me all the time.. I'd never heard of it before haha "
That and Eskimo nell... I digress... |
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Didn't complain when he thought it was a lady so... |
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I think the guy who gave the bj deserves a round of applause for obviously giving this guy the best oral job he's had in a long time that he just assumed it was the female of the duet |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Oh dear, you can see clubs being forced to rip out all their glory holes or put loads of signs up....
We sort of feel there's no point to a glory hole if you know who's on the other side...
But having said that the only time Nice ever used one was when he saw the most attractive woman in the club go in....turned out she gave one of the best BJs in the entire world of BJs as well!
Oh dear, what a mess.... |
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All the gloryholes I've seen in the clubs it was very easy to see whether there was a male, or female, or if there was room, a couple 'in residence'. Not that there ever were lol!
The guy who got upset was definitely in the wrong for kicking off like that, and the club was right to kick him out for it!
'Look before you leap' was something I was taught at a young age...... |
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Maybe in future he will stick a little postit note on the end of his cock stating his preference next time? |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
I guess by shoving his cock through a hole into a room in a swinger club he gave consent to everyone in the room |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you stick your todger through a hole and get an amazing blowjob and really enjoy it then surely it doesn't matter whether it was from a bloke or a woman?"
It would to me and why I'd never use one in any setting |
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Consent is a two way street. I think that they are all blame. He may have been naive, but he did not give consent for the male to suck his cock. Nor did the male get consent before sucking his cock.
It seems that consent in clubs isn’t taken seriously if this is a typical night.
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"I guess by shoving his cock through a hole into a room in a swinger club he gave consent to everyone in the room "
Exactly! Lol i went to a swimming pool but no one said I'd get wet lol
Did he really expect a female to say can I please suck this cock you've pushed into our cubicle? No, so why did he expect the man to? Clear case of sex discrimination lol  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you know how glory holes work and the whole point of them, then dont cry about a random person sucking your cock....male or female. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you know how glory holes work and the whole point of them, then dont cry about a random person sucking your cock....male or female."
Not everyone knows though. I didn't have a clue that men would be behind them. My natural thought is woman. |
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over a year ago
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"If you know how glory holes work and the whole point of them, then dont cry about a random person sucking your cock....male or female.
Not everyone knows though. I didn't have a clue that men would be behind them. My natural thought is woman. "
Then ask, dont just assume and poke your willy in then moan when you got it wrong.
Ask any club staff and they will tell you the rules |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you know how glory holes work and the whole point of them, then dont cry about a random person sucking your cock....male or female.
Not everyone knows though. I didn't have a clue that men would be behind them. My natural thought is woman.
Then ask, dont just assume and poke your willy in then moan when you got it wrong.
Ask any club staff and they will tell you the rules"
Yeah I know that now but I use to think if that was going on it would be made clear that it's a bi night |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If you know how glory holes work and the whole point of them, then dont cry about a random person sucking your cock....male or female.
Not everyone knows though. I didn't have a clue that men would be behind them. My natural thought is woman.
Then ask, dont just assume and poke your willy in then moan when you got it wrong.
Ask any club staff and they will tell you the rules
Yeah I know that now but I use to think if that was going on it would be made clear that it's a bi night "
Simple ignorance.
Bi people go to clubs every day of the week, not just bi nights.
Again, stick your willy in a mystery hole, dont cry at who sucks it.
Simple logic |
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over a year ago
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"If you know how glory holes work and the whole point of them, then dont cry about a random person sucking your cock....male or female.
Not everyone knows though. I didn't have a clue that men would be behind them. My natural thought is woman. "
If in doubt, ask. Most clubs give introductory tours to new members and would point out how certain rooms/equipment work. Along with any rules/etiquette. If you have men, women and T-girls in a club, then expect that anyone (or two, or three) of them could be in the gloryhole |
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By *elcdtvTV/TS
over a year ago
Fareham |
"Is it wrong that I giggled slightly at this
It’s almost as funny as the guys who ask for a threesome and when we explained we want a proper threesome, not just sharing the female, still maintain they’re bi.
Claire’s favourite then was to invite them into the room and tell them to bend over, cos she wanted to watch first. Always got rid of about 80%. "
Count me in the 20% |
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over a year ago
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"Consent is a two way street. I think that they are all blame. He may have been naive, but he did not give consent for the male to suck his cock. Nor did the male get consent before sucking his cock.
It seems that consent in clubs isn’t taken seriously if this is a typical night.
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But by that logic neither did the female... And I'm pretty sure the whole point of a glory hole is the thrill of never seeing the sucker or suckee and letting your imagination run wild! |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
Bedfont Feltham |
His fault. He poked his dick through a gloryhole.
It's one of the reasons I avoid them like the plague.
And it's too impersonal for me anyway I like to see who I am.playing with |
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By *host63Man
over a year ago
Bedfont Feltham |
"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though"
Ans Inmust say you do.make a.good point there even though I.do blame the guy for assuming. I do think the OP should have asked.
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"Is it wrong that I giggled slightly at this
It’s almost as funny as the guys who ask for a threesome and when we explained we want a proper threesome, not just sharing the female, still maintain they’re bi.
Claire’s favourite then was to invite them into the room and tell them to bend over, cos she wanted to watch first. Always got rid of about 80%. "
Ha ha...I use this one, I say I'll watch you and him first ! |
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By *DW1983Man
over a year ago
Aberdeen, Leeds, Sheffield |
I have to say I think there is fault on both sides. Yes, people shouldn't assume. But I think it's also not unfair to assume that on a 'normal' club night, the 'default' position is straight unless both parties have made clear they are bi.
I wouldn't use one unless I knew who was in there, for two reasons: 1: I wouldn't want a random bloke sucking my cock, no matter how much people say it all feels the same, and 2: I'm picky and wouldn't want some of the women I see at clubs sucking me either. |
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though
Ans Inmust say you do.make a.good point there even though I.do blame the guy for assuming. I do think the OP should have asked.
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Issues around consent when it's a guy seem to be treated as a bit of a joke. It's not great to see. |
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Unless there are signs on the glory hole cubicles indicating they are gendered, the other man had no right to assume anything about the person giving him a BJ. He stuck his member through the hole and offered it to whoever was on the other side.
Gloryholes aren't my thing, but my understanding is that the anonymity is part of the attraction. The thrill is in not knowing who's on the other side. If he saw a couple enter the other side, it is only his sense of entitlement which lead him to think it would be the lady sucking him off.
I have been to venues where gloryholes are labelled "male" and "female" or even "gents" and "ladies" on opposite sides. But I am assuming that was not the case in this instance. So the fault is entirely on the other man for assuming things he had no right to.
And congrats on giving a good BJ which he clearly enjoyed. |
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when i go to a nude beach i only expect the women to look at my naughty bits...if men do i wish to complain lol
that is how ridiculous his complaint is and how sexist and homophobic it is, he has chosen to participate in a random group activity and then wishes to dictate how the activity should be played. Giving no direction or clue himself what he does or doesnt want! Talk about blame culture lol
He takes a drink without and then complains its tea not coffee
hello mr willy flopping though the hole, im trans can i suck you? lol |
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I thought the whole point of gloryholes is that you literally do not know who's on the other side. So someone asking permission of the person thrusting their member through the hole would defeat that purpose.
The consent would seem to be given by entering an area specifically designed for anonymous encounters. Same with dark rooms, the attraction is supposed to be that you don't know who you're playing with.
"the default is straight" is quite a biphobic and homophobic statement. Unless the club was holding a specific "straight night" or the gloryholes were identified by gender. Which I am assuming they were not, otherwise OP wouldn't have given head. |
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over a year ago
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His fault |
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By *andyh78Man
over a year ago
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His fault.
He shouldn’t have assumed it was the female if he saw both of you go in together.
But more importantly he shouldn’t have approached your wife afterwards. If you are going to get an anonymous bj it should stay anonymous. |
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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago
Loughborough |
His fault.
If you don't want some random person piping you off, then don't stick your chopper through a hole in a wall. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"His fault.
He shouldn’t have assumed it was the female if he saw both of you go in together.
But more importantly he shouldn’t have approached your wife afterwards. If you are going to get an anonymous bj it should stay anonymous."
Agree |
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Utterly his fault mate. I did the dark room at kestrels once with a fb and some guy started wanking me...I politely made my apologise and left. If you go into dark rooms and glory holes then thats part of the risk and excitement and if you can't take something happening like this you should stick to other activities. Gave my fb a bloody good laugh ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why do I have visions of Ace Ventura crying in a shower all of a sudden? |
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though
Ans Inmust say you do.make a.good point there even though I.do blame the guy for assuming. I do think the OP should have asked.
Issues around consent when it's a guy seem to be treated as a bit of a joke. It's not great to see."
Here here. It’s alarming that people only think. Indent applies to women. |
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"Why do I have visions of Ace Ventura crying in a shower all of a sudden? "
yes lol times have moved on, as a previous poster stated, you can not have straight as the default setting, relegating every non straight activity as requiring extra permission lol i dont even believe there is straight or gay sex... its just sex! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My feeling on this is that by sticking your dick into an unknown hole, you are consenting to be sucked by whoever might be on the other side. That's the point of a gloryhole. |
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though
Ans Inmust say you do.make a.good point there even though I.do blame the guy for assuming. I do think the OP should have asked.
Issues around consent when it's a guy seem to be treated as a bit of a joke. It's not great to see.
Here here. It’s alarming that people only think. Indent applies to women."
No sympathy for the bloke.. think the general thinking is when you stick your willy through a glory hole you abandon any need to give consent of any kind and just want someone to play with it..A Non specified someone at that! .. That's the nature of what they are..or you don't go poking the Willy into holes you don't know what's on the other side of ??
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though
Ans Inmust say you do.make a.good point there even though I.do blame the guy for assuming. I do think the OP should have asked.
Issues around consent when it's a guy seem to be treated as a bit of a joke. It's not great to see.
Here here. It’s alarming that people only think. Indent applies to women.
No sympathy for the bloke.. think the general thinking is when you stick your willy through a glory hole you abandon any need to give consent of any kind and just want someone to play with it..A Non specified someone at that! .. That's the nature of what they are..or you don't go poking the Willy into holes you don't know what's on the other side of ??
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I don’t think that you can “abandon the need for consent” ever. |
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though
Ans Inmust say you do.make a.good point there even though I.do blame the guy for assuming. I do think the OP should have asked.
Issues around consent when it's a guy seem to be treated as a bit of a joke. It's not great to see.
Here here. It’s alarming that people only think. Indent applies to women."
With most of the glory holes we have seen, VA might be the exception, it is not possible to give explicit consent to a particular person because they are... Anonymous.
It's not a question of not taking consent issues seriously, it's simply not possible with glory holes and darkrooms. Buyer beware Caveat Emptor. |
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though
Ans Inmust say you do.make a.good point there even though I.do blame the guy for assuming. I do think the OP should have asked.
Issues around consent when it's a guy seem to be treated as a bit of a joke. It's not great to see.
Here here. It’s alarming that people only think. Indent applies to women.
With most of the glory holes we have seen, VA might be the exception, it is not possible to give explicit consent to a particular person because they are... Anonymous.
It's not a question of not taking consent issues seriously, it's simply not possible with glory holes and darkrooms. Buyer beware Caveat Emptor. "
Caveat emptor does not or never has applied to consent, however tricky the situation may be.
But I do understand the point that you are making. |
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And this is why I will never use the glory holes! If you bothered by the sex of the sucker...don’t stick it through the hole!!!
As for loosing his cool, made him a bigger fool!
Totally his fault, and also don’t go into clubs with that attitude! you can’t get offended by others taking an interest and that includes those of the same sex. Grabbing or being a nuisance does however warrant some stern talking to, and or booting out of the club with a life ban!!!
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though
Ans Inmust say you do.make a.good point there even though I.do blame the guy for assuming. I do think the OP should have asked.
Issues around consent when it's a guy seem to be treated as a bit of a joke. It's not great to see.
Here here. It’s alarming that people only think. Indent applies to women.
With most of the glory holes we have seen, VA might be the exception, it is not possible to give explicit consent to a particular person because they are... Anonymous.
It's not a question of not taking consent issues seriously, it's simply not possible with glory holes and darkrooms. Buyer beware Caveat Emptor.
Caveat emptor does not or never has applied to consent, however tricky the situation may be.
But I do understand the point that you are making. "
I was expressing it in a relateable way, the legal definition obviously concerns purchase of goods but Wikipedia also notes its use as a English proverb so I consider that acceptable usage |
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"Hmmm. I know nothing about glory holes but I don't think the man should be mocked. Isn't the onus on both parties to express intent or am I misunderstanding? Maybe he misunderstood too.
His reaction was wrong probably though
Ans Inmust say you do.make a.good point there even though I.do blame the guy for assuming. I do think the OP should have asked.
Issues around consent when it's a guy seem to be treated as a bit of a joke. It's not great to see.
Here here. It’s alarming that people only think. Indent applies to women.
With most of the glory holes we have seen, VA might be the exception, it is not possible to give explicit consent to a particular person because they are... Anonymous.
It's not a question of not taking consent issues seriously, it's simply not possible with glory holes and darkrooms. Buyer beware Caveat Emptor.
Caveat emptor does not or never has applied to consent, however tricky the situation may be.
But I do understand the point that you are making.
I was expressing it in a relateable way, the legal definition obviously concerns purchase of goods but Wikipedia also notes its use as a English proverb so I consider that acceptable usage "
Consider accepted... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"His fault.
He shouldn’t have assumed it was the female if he saw both of you go in together.
But more importantly he shouldn’t have approached your wife afterwards. If you are going to get an anonymous bj it should stay anonymous."
Agreed, I think that was his mistake. Should left it and not approached then everyone would have been happy, OP'reference to single men tho... Not very nice. |
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"On a visit to a well known club with my female play buddy we played in the a room with a sizeable audience watching through the glass, by a mixture of couples and the usual wanking zombies. After a bit we paused, headed out of the room and we stepped into one half of the gloryhole booths together. In no time a cock pokes through. Well after a brief discussion we decided it was my turn, and I did what is natural. Later we’re in the bar area having a drink and a guy sidles up and thanks my partner for ‘the gloryhole’. She just laughs and said ‘thank him, not me.’
At this point the guy goes mental, swearing and threatening; upset that a bloke had sucked him off. I told him fuck off (being a big scary looking bloke has its benefits) that if he wanted to be sure who was blowing him he shouldn’t pop himself through gloryholes. He was politely asked to leave the club by the owners; but I did get the impression a number of others there shared his view.
Who’s in the right? "
You and the club are in the right.
Use a gloryhole, expect anyone or thing on the otherside (heard a couple of dodgy tales) |
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I'm not aware that glory hole allow for the "only people you want to suck you get to suck you" rule. I think that's kind of the point. It's a game of chance. If you're not prepared for anybody who comes along to suck you, don't put your willy in the hole.
That's precisely why I wouldn't use one if the opportunity ever comes up. There are some people I wouldn't want sucking me. Luke |
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"On a visit to a well known club with my female play buddy we played in the a room with a sizeable audience watching through the glass, by a mixture of couples and the usual wanking zombies. After a bit we paused, headed out of the room and we stepped into one half of the gloryhole booths together. In no time a cock pokes through. Well after a brief discussion we decided it was my turn, and I did what is natural. Later we’re in the bar area having a drink and a guy sidles up and thanks my partner for ‘the gloryhole’. She just laughs and said ‘thank him, not me.’
At this point the guy goes mental, swearing and threatening; upset that a bloke had sucked him off. I told him fuck off (being a big scary looking bloke has its benefits) that if he wanted to be sure who was blowing him he shouldn’t pop himself through gloryholes. He was politely asked to leave the club by the owners; but I did get the impression a number of others there shared his view.
Who’s in the right? "
I thought that was the idea of glory holes??? You didn't know who was doing the sucking |
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By *DW1983Man
over a year ago
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"I thought the whole point of gloryholes is that you literally do not know who's on the other side. So someone asking permission of the person thrusting their member through the hole would defeat that purpose.
The consent would seem to be given by entering an area specifically designed for anonymous encounters. Same with dark rooms, the attraction is supposed to be that you don't know who you're playing with.
"the default is straight" is quite a biphobic and homophobic statement. Unless the club was holding a specific "straight night" or the gloryholes were identified by gender. Which I am assuming they were not, otherwise OP wouldn't have given head."
I agree with the first two paragraphs, but I don't think there's anything -phobic about the point that most people in clubs and outside seem to lean towards assuming people are straight unless signalled otherwise. I'd say that holds true for the majority of the population, straight being by a long way the most common orientation, though admittedly maybe less so in a club environment. Everyone has different club experiences (and wider life experiences) yours may be different. There's no judgement on the rights or wrongs of being straight, bi or gay in that, nor whether its right or wrong to assume it. |
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"No sympathy for the bloke.. think the general thinking is when you stick your willy through a glory hole you abandon any need to give consent of any kind and just want someone to play with it..A Non specified someone at that! .. That's the nature of what they are..or you don't go poking the Willy into holes you don't know what's on the other side of ??
I don’t think that you can “abandon the need for consent” ever."
He voluntarily gave consent by sticking it through the gloryhole. I still stand by what I said earlier, if it was a 'straight' event you wouldn't expect a bloke to be servicing his cock, if it was a 'bi' event then he would be taking the chance of a male or female or both doing the sucking |
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"I'm not aware that glory hole allow for the "only people you want to suck you get to suck you" rule. I think that's kind of the point. It's a game of chance. If you're not prepared for anybody who comes along to suck you, don't put your willy in the hole.
That's precisely why I wouldn't use one if the opportunity ever comes up. There are some people I wouldn't want sucking me. Luke "
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"No sympathy for the bloke.. think the general thinking is when you stick your willy through a glory hole you abandon any need to give consent of any kind and just want someone to play with it..A Non specified someone at that! .. That's the nature of what they are..or you don't go poking the Willy into holes you don't know what's on the other side of ??
I don’t think that you can “abandon the need for consent” ever.
He voluntarily gave consent by sticking it through the gloryhole. I still stand by what I said earlier, if it was a 'straight' event you wouldn't expect a bloke to be servicing his cock, if it was a 'bi' event then he would be taking the chance of a male or female or both doing the sucking"
Well as I say, there's plenty of bi guys at the couples events we go to, I doubt there even is such a thing as a 'straight' event actually. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He is in the wrong. By sticking his cocktail sausage through the hole, he has consented to whatever may happen with his cock and the anonymity of a glory hole shows that he should have known it could be a man or a woman. Consent given as soon as the purple head of doom entered the black hole. |
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I thought the aim of sticking it through the glory hole was to get it sucked. Dies it really matter by who. ??. I'm not bi but it wouldn't bother me especially if it was good. ?? |
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By *imbobaMan
over a year ago
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Can I recommend a soundtrack for this thread?
Glory Hole by Steel Panther.
Hilarious.
The video is also very telling of this conundrum. |
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"Can I recommend a soundtrack for this thread?
Glory Hole by Steel Panther.
Hilarious.
The video is also very telling of this conundrum. "
Don't know which episode it was, but it makes me think of Blackadder where the father of Blackadder's potential bride says he wouldn't leave his John Thomas in the hands of a lunatic or something. |
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"I thought the whole point of gloryholes is that you literally do not know who's on the other side. So someone asking permission of the person thrusting their member through the hole would defeat that purpose.
The consent would seem to be given by entering an area specifically designed for anonymous encounters. Same with dark rooms, the attraction is supposed to be that you don't know who you're playing with.
"the default is straight" is quite a biphobic and homophobic statement. Unless the club was holding a specific "straight night" or the gloryholes were identified by gender. Which I am assuming they were not, otherwise OP wouldn't have given head.
I agree with the first two paragraphs, but I don't think there's anything -phobic about the point that most people in clubs and outside seem to lean towards assuming people are straight unless signalled otherwise. I'd say that holds true for the majority of the population, straight being by a long way the most common orientation, though admittedly maybe less so in a club environment. Everyone has different club experiences (and wider life experiences) yours may be different. There's no judgement on the rights or wrongs of being straight, bi or gay in that, nor whether its right or wrong to assume it."
where do you draw the line on this? as most of the population is white he had a right to assume he would get a blow job by a straight white woman? but he doesnt mind if its a gay woman but not a gay man? but thats ok? and certainly not a trans? and double that if its a black trans man? and none of thats phobic? OMG!
FFS, he went into a sex club and put his dick into a hole LOL and then has the cheek to approach the couple in a follow up maneuver.
As for needing more and more consent, consent was given by putting cock through hole, but this only gave them permission to suck said cock? but not my balls? that requires extra consent? and i never mentioned tugging nipples or licking bum cracks and i wanted my cum back and they swallowed it! lol ... we better start attending clubs with a bloody check list signed by a witness lol |
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"I thought the whole point of gloryholes is that you literally do not know who's on the other side. So someone asking permission of the person thrusting their member through the hole would defeat that purpose.
The consent would seem to be given by entering an area specifically designed for anonymous encounters. Same with dark rooms, the attraction is supposed to be that you don't know who you're playing with.
"the default is straight" is quite a biphobic and homophobic statement. Unless the club was holding a specific "straight night" or the gloryholes were identified by gender. Which I am assuming they were not, otherwise OP wouldn't have given head.
I agree with the first two paragraphs, but I don't think there's anything -phobic about the point that most people in clubs and outside seem to lean towards assuming people are straight unless signalled otherwise. I'd say that holds true for the majority of the population, straight being by a long way the most common orientation, though admittedly maybe less so in a club environment. Everyone has different club experiences (and wider life experiences) yours may be different. There's no judgement on the rights or wrongs of being straight, bi or gay in that, nor whether its right or wrong to assume it.
where do you draw the line on this? as most of the population is white he had a right to assume he would get a blow job by a straight white woman? but he doesnt mind if its a gay woman but not a gay man? but thats ok? and certainly not a trans? and double that if its a black trans man? and none of thats phobic? OMG!
FFS, he went into a sex club and put his dick into a hole LOL and then has the cheek to approach the couple in a follow up maneuver.
As for needing more and more consent, consent was given by putting cock through hole, but this only gave them permission to suck said cock? but not my balls? that requires extra consent? and i never mentioned tugging nipples or licking bum cracks and i wanted my cum back and they swallowed it! lol ... we better start attending clubs with a bloody check list signed by a witness lol "
As a straight white male I was thinking all that but didn't have the balls to say it lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The guy was just annoyed with himself because he enjoyed it so much...lol
What a muppet. |
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over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Thats funny |
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"where do you draw the line on this? as most of the population is white he had a right to assume he would get a blow job by a straight white woman?"
Even if we assume that was the case, the activity is totally anonymous so the female could theoretically be a family member
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just echoing what most people have said here. He was 100% in the wrong. The whole point of a gloryhole is that you don't know who is on the other side so you should never just assume - however it does raise another question, is it OK afterwards to approach the person that was in the booth?
I think not as its suppose to be anonymous, by saying thank you for the BJ it kind of ruins the point of the gloryhole booth. Plus it works both ways, the person giving the BJ may be horrified to see whose dick they just sucked! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’d suspect all is fair in love and wall |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Same echoing from here. Yeah he was in the wrong no need to blow up. It's the anonimity of the scenario that also provides the buzz. Do you think he enjoyed it?, course he did what's not to like.
I don't see the problem here and actually think it's quite hot that a wife would share with her husband. (or partner etc.) :D |
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over a year ago
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"In general , unless it's a bi night I think it's reasonable to assume or indeed expect it's a lady in the cubicle..I dont think it's meant to be a total surprise lucky dip as to whether you get a guy sucking you off or not.
I have seen couples go in and sometimes it's clear it's the lady doing the sucking ..other times if unsure I wouldn't be interested.
I think the guy had a right to be aggrieved as I suspect there was an element of intended deceit by the couple...they could easily have just said it's the Male now ...if you are still interested...
They new some of the guys partaking would not have wanted a bj from a guy ...
Its deceitful non consensual behaviour I think ..."
This is what I was going to say. Unless it’s a bi-night then it’s reasonable for the guy to expect it would be the woman sucking with her husband watching. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect that every guy would be ok with a bi blow job without asking. I understand why the guy was cross. I think he was treated disrespectfully. |
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"In general , unless it's a bi night I think it's reasonable to assume or indeed expect it's a lady in the cubicle..I dont think it's meant to be a total surprise lucky dip as to whether you get a guy sucking you off or not.
I have seen couples go in and sometimes it's clear it's the lady doing the sucking ..other times if unsure I wouldn't be interested.
I think the guy had a right to be aggrieved as I suspect there was an element of intended deceit by the couple...they could easily have just said it's the Male now ...if you are still interested...
They new some of the guys partaking would not have wanted a bj from a guy ...
Its deceitful non consensual behaviour I think ...
This is what I was going to say. Unless it’s a bi-night then it’s reasonable for the guy to expect it would be the woman sucking with her husband watching. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect that every guy would be ok with a bi blow job without asking. I understand why the guy was cross. I think he was treated disrespectfully. "
Pretty much all well attended club nights have some bi guys in attendance, including couples nights. There's not really any such thing as a straight night. Let's not discriminate |
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"In general , unless it's a bi night I think it's reasonable to assume or indeed expect it's a lady in the cubicle..I dont think it's meant to be a total surprise lucky dip as to whether you get a guy sucking you off or not.
I have seen couples go in and sometimes it's clear it's the lady doing the sucking ..other times if unsure I wouldn't be interested.
I think the guy had a right to be aggrieved as I suspect there was an element of intended deceit by the couple...they could easily have just said it's the Male now ...if you are still interested...
They new some of the guys partaking would not have wanted a bj from a guy ...
Its deceitful non consensual behaviour I think ...
This is what I was going to say. Unless it’s a bi-night then it’s reasonable for the guy to expect it would be the woman sucking with her husband watching. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect that every guy would be ok with a bi blow job without asking. I understand why the guy was cross. I think he was treated disrespectfully.
Pretty much all well attended club nights have some bi guys in attendance, including couples nights. There's not really any such thing as a straight night. Let's not discriminate "
It’s not discriminating. Let’s not get carried away. It’s about having respect for people. You can’t assume someone is bi on a regular night in a swingers club, its safe to assume there would be lots of straight men there. But on a dedicated bi night you could be more sure. The guy should have been careful and not assumed either, but to just start sucking someone’s cock when you have no idea whether they’d be ok with it is a bit unfair.
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"In general , unless it's a bi night I think it's reasonable to assume or indeed expect it's a lady in the cubicle..I dont think it's meant to be a total surprise lucky dip as to whether you get a guy sucking you off or not.
I have seen couples go in and sometimes it's clear it's the lady doing the sucking ..other times if unsure I wouldn't be interested.
I think the guy had a right to be aggrieved as I suspect there was an element of intended deceit by the couple...they could easily have just said it's the Male now ...if you are still interested...
They new some of the guys partaking would not have wanted a bj from a guy ...
Its deceitful non consensual behaviour I think ...
This is what I was going to say. Unless it’s a bi-night then it’s reasonable for the guy to expect it would be the woman sucking with her husband watching. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect that every guy would be ok with a bi blow job without asking. I understand why the guy was cross. I think he was treated disrespectfully.
Pretty much all well attended club nights have some bi guys in attendance, including couples nights. There's not really any such thing as a straight night. Let's not discriminate
It’s not discriminating. Let’s not get carried away. It’s about having respect for people. You can’t assume someone is bi on a regular night in a swingers club, its safe to assume there would be lots of straight men there. But on a dedicated bi night you could be more sure. The guy should have been careful and not assumed either, but to just start sucking someone’s cock when you have no idea whether they’d be ok with it is a bit unfair.
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I hadn't specifically thought of it before this thread came up, but as a boringly straight guy that's probably why I've never gone sticking my cock in glory holes. It's clearly a game of roulette. |
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for those who dont read thread ill repeat
where do you draw the line on this? as most of the population is white he had a right to assume he would get a blow job by a straight white woman? but he doesnt mind if its a gay woman but not a gay man? but thats ok? and certainly not a trans? and double that if its a black trans man? and none of thats phobic? OMG!
FFS, he went into a sex club and put his dick into a hole LOL and then has the cheek to approach the couple in a follow up maneuver.
As for needing more and more consent, consent was given by putting cock through hole, but this only gave them permission to suck said cock? but not my balls? that requires extra consent? and i never mentioned tugging nipples or licking bum cracks and i wanted my cum back and they swallowed it! lol ... we better start attending clubs with a bloody check list signed by a witness lol |
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I thought glory holes where all about anonymity, as in if you don't know and you enjoyed it, you don't really need to know. The fact he's seen you both go in sounds to me he took a chance. His fault clearly. |
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"I've never gone sticking my cock in glory holes. It's clearly a game of roulette. "
This. |
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By *udepaulMan
over a year ago
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If he had anything about himself he would have laughed it off and gone after a comparison blow job off your other half.
The man was a fool if you ask me. Totally out of line and one of those single blokes who think going to a club entitled them to whatever you want. Makes it ten times as tough for normal, polite, kinky fuckers like me.
Don’t give it a second thought, OP. |
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By *oppet22TV/TS
over a year ago
huddersfield |
His fault totally you where rigth in every way if you play in that kind of room what did it matter if it's a female or male doing sucking he did enjoy it so what's the problem |
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over a year ago
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"If he had anything about himself he would have laughed it off and gone after a comparison blow job off your other half.
The man was a fool if you ask me. Totally out of line and one of those single blokes who think going to a club entitled them to whatever you want. Makes it ten times as tough for normal, polite, kinky fuckers like me.
Don’t give it a second thought, OP. "
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