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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Well the fun has been postponed for nearly over a year now hasn't it. I'm hopeful that things will ease at some point in 2021.
I've spent this time chatting to some great couples whilst in lockdown with a view of meeting up socially when we can.
A question I often get asked is what ideally are you looking for?
There isn't really a correct answer to this as sex and swinging is so wide ranging.
One scenario that does turn me on massively though is the idea of taking a cuck/hotwife couple to another level??
This would have to be with a couple whom trust me inexplicably due to the nature of the fantasy.
In a nutshell it's to regularly meet a couple where me and the wife assume the role of boyfriend and girlfriend.
This means we are free to text, chat and meet whenever. Hubby would always be informed and there'd be rules in place and ways of stopping it if at all any of us felt uncomfortable. However wife would be able to be completly at ease with us both kissing in front of hubby, calling me her boyfriend and vice versa.
Even get to the stage where he have film nights etc and me and wife are snuggling on the sofa whilst cuck sits in the chair etc.
I am able to share their bed if wife required or even cuck is expected to sleep on spare room.
I'm not naive enough to think this is straight forward and it still of course remains a fantasy but would love to hear from any couples who have explored this.
What worked well?
What didn't work so well?
All good natured chat please. I'm not here to offend anyone
Matt xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think it's quite an ambitious thing to be looking for
Good luck"
Ohhh it definitely remains a far fetched fantasy and I doubt if even mention it to a couple to be honest unless we REALLY got on well as a threesome.
It's hard enough finding genuine cuck/hotwife couples nevermind ones that want to explore that ha ha |
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By *8v3nCouple
over a year ago
Coventry |
There's one big but... For that to happen couple would need have no kids or other relatives to bring you so much into their life.
Having said so some parts like free texting, chatting etc.. that would probably work with many. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"There's one big but... For that to happen couple would need have no kids or other relatives to bring you so much into their life.
Having said so some parts like free texting, chatting etc.. that would probably work with many. "
Yeah there's so many ifs and buts that it will just remain a fantasy to be honest.
No way would I ever want to jeapordise their or my personal life.
It would probably be a case of how can we do it safely? If at all.
I was just putting it out there for discussion more than anything
Also sometimes fantasy's should remain just that |
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That's the kind of thing we were looking for, less so the cuck side of things though. I think it's hard to find but there's posts on here where people have said that they've got that arrangement and it's working for them.
When kids move out or parents have weekends/evenings without them, it's obviously a lot more achievable.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"That's the kind of thing we were looking for, less so the cuck side of things though. I think it's hard to find but there's posts on here where people have said that they've got that arrangement and it's working for them.
When kids move out or parents have weekends/evenings without them, it's obviously a lot more achievable.
Katie"
I think communixatio between all 3 is vital but I reckon it would be amazing if everyone was happy with the arrangement and explored together |
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I think with the correct trust and boundaries agreeable by all of you this is something you will have success with on here, I think the first hurdle to get over is proving your sincerity and finding a couple you can make good friends with. I wish you luck on your journey its not as uncommon as you might think |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I think with the correct trust and boundaries agreeable by all of you this is something you will have success with on here, I think the first hurdle to get over is proving your sincerity and finding a couple you can make good friends with. I wish you luck on your journey its not as uncommon as you might think "
Lovely message. Thank you xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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well op its how we like our regular guys when a lover in in the house then im all his until he leaves looks to me you'll tick a lot of longer term cuckold couples boxes |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"There are couples into what you just said the problem is, you are dropping your own personal time to invest into another as a third wheel."
Well that's how you look at it mate. I see it as part of exploring fantasies. Plus. If it gets to that stage then chances are that we all get on amazingly well so I don't see it as waste of time. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"well op its how we like our regular guys when a lover in in the house then im all his until he leaves looks to me you'll tick a lot of longer term cuckold couples boxes"
If this was a Facebook status I'd like it lol x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Btw. I completely get the feel. Broadly speaking it is a much bigger turn on if there is more context than arranging a hotel room and shag."
Yeah i think this is it. You've nailed it really. It's about adding more context to the fantasy and the dynamic |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We've toyed with the idea but not to the extent you say. In our eyes the sort of scenario you're describing would come from:
- Humiliating the husband (we appreciate this is more of a "full on" cuckold aspect).
- The wife not actually wanting the husband, and hiding this as a "swinging fantasy".
- The guy having such low self esteem that he feels he's doing his wife a justice by letting her do it.
Don't get me wrong that's just our view, and maybe biased as we're completely 50/50 with eachother. We love the thought of here playing with other guys, me "catching" them at it, or maybe getting a dirty pic while I'm out. But the whole boyfriend, kissing, movie nights, sharing the bed just seems way too personal and degrading for the guy. As I say that's just our view, and certainly don't knock it if others get turned on by it!  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We've toyed with the idea but not to the extent you say. In our eyes the sort of scenario you're describing would come from:
- Humiliating the husband (we appreciate this is more of a "full on" cuckold aspect).
- The wife not actually wanting the husband, and hiding this as a "swinging fantasy".
- The guy having such low self esteem that he feels he's doing his wife a justice by letting her do it.
Don't get me wrong that's just our view, and maybe biased as we're completely 50/50 with eachother. We love the thought of here playing with other guys, me "catching" them at it, or maybe getting a dirty pic while I'm out. But the whole boyfriend, kissing, movie nights, sharing the bed just seems way too personal and degrading for the guy. As I say that's just our view, and certainly don't knock it if others get turned on by it! "
Compeltly 100% get where you're coming from. I think that's why it would remain a fantasy. It's definately towards the more intense and extreme end ha ha.
And THE LAST thing id want is this to affect someone on a deep personal level.
It would have to be discussed over and over. It's probably a line we'd all be too nervous to cross maybe?
Who knows? No harm in discussing it though.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We've toyed with the idea but not to the extent you say. In our eyes the sort of scenario you're describing would come from:
- Humiliating the husband (we appreciate this is more of a "full on" cuckold aspect).
- The wife not actually wanting the husband, and hiding this as a "swinging fantasy".
- The guy having such low self esteem that he feels he's doing his wife a justice by letting her do it.
Don't get me wrong that's just our view, and maybe biased as we're completely 50/50 with eachother. We love the thought of here playing with other guys, me "catching" them at it, or maybe getting a dirty pic while I'm out. But the whole boyfriend, kissing, movie nights, sharing the bed just seems way too personal and degrading for the guy. As I say that's just our view, and certainly don't knock it if others get turned on by it!
Compeltly 100% get where you're coming from. I think that's why it would remain a fantasy. It's definately towards the more intense and extreme end ha ha.
And THE LAST thing id want is this to affect someone on a deep personal level.
It would have to be discussed over and over. It's probably a line we'd all be too nervous to cross maybe?
Who knows? No harm in discussing it though.
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Definitely no harm in it, and as I say it's only our view, others may genuinely enjoy it we just can't understand how. But again, we're all for others enjoying it (life would be boring if we were all the same). Oddly we love the thought of the wife sleeping with others, having quickies now and then, we just wouldn't need the "romantic/personal" side of it as we already have that with eachother. But if you all enjoy it, go for it  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well we are the couple who are comfortable with everything you mentioned.Kids pets free so much easier to get involved in such relationship. Th main thing is so called bull must be kids free and 100 % no ex wife or girlfriend still in touch and so on! Especially if he lives alone and very mobile so a hotwife can get hold of him anytime she wants.
In this case 3 way relationship will work xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Well we are the couple who are comfortable with everything you mentioned.Kids pets free so much easier to get involved in such relationship. Th main thing is so called bull must be kids free and 100 % no ex wife or girlfriend still in touch and so on! Especially if he lives alone and very mobile so a hotwife can get hold of him anytime she wants.
In this case 3 way relationship will work xx"
Yep. If everyone feels comfortable then I can imagine it's soooo sexy. I admire how much trust it must take for you both to do it zxx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well we are the couple who are comfortable with everything you mentioned.Kids pets free so much easier to get involved in such relationship. Th main thing is so called bull must be kids free and 100 % no ex wife or girlfriend still in touch and so on! Especially if he lives alone and very mobile so a hotwife can get hold of him anytime she wants.
In this case 3 way relationship will work xx
Yep. If everyone feels comfortable then I can imagine it's soooo sexy. I admire how much trust it must take for you both to do it zxx"
Well tried so many times to be honest still searching xxx |
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By *8v3nCouple
over a year ago
Coventry |
"Btw. I completely get the feel. Broadly speaking it is a much bigger turn on if there is more context than arranging a hotel room and shag.
Yeah i think this is it. You've nailed it really. It's about adding more context to the fantasy and the dynamic "
Well for us fantasy is not that comfy life. Have enough of that ourselves.  there is however something about that Friday night feel going for a drink. Staying up all night while hubbys at home. Dont take wrong doing it in Swinger Club is great. But there is something more about having regular night outs with all the other context and build up or quick date in the car not just "here we go again". |
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Some of this scenario should be relatively easy to find and the other part very difficult to find. My hubby lets me go out to dinner with other men or have a proper date night somewhere. We are close to me staying out all night with my FB who wants to take me to a club for an evening which hubby is fine with. The sooner this Virus disappears the better, we can start to have some proper fun again. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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ive got to add to my last post that there is no romance its all purely sexual i dont do emotional or drama with lovers and as a cuck my hubs really gets of on humiliation side of things to so of it is very verbal towards him i love it he loves it and my lovers love it too so win win win xx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"ive got to add to my last post that there is no romance its all purely sexual i dont do emotional or drama with lovers and as a cuck my hubs really gets of on humiliation side of things to so of it is very verbal towards him i love it he loves it and my lovers love it too so win win win xx"
Theres enough drama in life without bringing into the swinging world ha ha xx |
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By *iclassyCouple
over a year ago
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"Well the fun has been postponed for nearly over a year now hasn't it. I'm hopeful that things will ease at some point in 2021.
I've spent this time chatting to some great couples whilst in lockdown with a view of meeting up socially when we can.
Yes this is totally what I would like for my hotwife. To continue to act as a confident hotwife whom can feel she is a single woman.Knowing her hubby is happy for her and her bull to have total freedom to do and act as please.
A question I often get asked is what ideally are you looking for?
There isn't really a correct answer to this as sex and swinging is so wide ranging.
One scenario that does turn me on massively though is the idea of taking a cuck/hotwife couple to another level??
This would have to be with a couple whom trust me inexplicably due to the nature of the fantasy.
In a nutshell it's to regularly meet a couple where me and the wife assume the role of boyfriend and girlfriend.
This means we are free to text, chat and meet whenever. Hubby would always be informed and there'd be rules in place and ways of stopping it if at all any of us felt uncomfortable. However wife would be able to be completly at ease with us both kissing in front of hubby, calling me her boyfriend and vice versa.
Even get to the stage where he have film nights etc and me and wife are snuggling on the sofa whilst cuck sits in the chair etc.
I am able to share their bed if wife required or even cuck is expected to sleep on spare room.
I'm not naive enough to think this is straight forward and it still of course remains a fantasy but would love to hear from any couples who have explored this.
What worked well?
What didn't work so well?
All good natured chat please. I'm not here to offend anyone
Matt xx"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well we are the couple who are comfortable with everything you mentioned.Kids pets free so much easier to get involved in such relationship. Th main thing is so called bull must be kids free and 100 % no ex wife or girlfriend still in touch and so on! Especially if he lives alone and very mobile so a hotwife can get hold of him anytime she wants.
In this case 3 way relationship will work xx"
I totally agree with you, I’ve been in a similar situation about 6 years ago but it ended because of me moving. Since then I haven’t find a couple willing to do the same or similar relationship. There are some couples on here but the travel distance is a huge problem for this kind of relationship, anything more than half an hour driving is not suitable I think. |
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By *iliciousCouple
over a year ago
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The scenario isn’t for us, but out of interest OP, and no judgement but just to keep the discussion going, what do you get out of it (apart from regular sex, obviously)? There must be something else in the role that must be attractive to you - is it the humiliation aspect of being the alpha male over the husband? Is it the illusion of having a “girlfriend” which will (should) always be without commitment? Interested.
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Well you've certainly thought this through OP!
I've not really got to the detail you describe but my partner having been an avid swinger became less interested but would encourage me to develop my own interest in the lifestyle so I guess I've done things solo that weren't premeditated as part of the joint needs of me and my hubby, if that makes sense.
So I have been out to dinner, and had unplanned overnight liaisons which very much felt like a bf/gf experience. I've not done this recently but it was quite thrilling with a trusted partner who I'd developed an intimate relationship with. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The scenario isn’t for us, but out of interest OP, and no judgement but just to keep the discussion going, what do you get out of it (apart from regular sex, obviously)? There must be something else in the role that must be attractive to you - is it the humiliation aspect of being the alpha male over the husband? Is it the illusion of having a “girlfriend” which will (should) always be without commitment? Interested.
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That's a fair enough question. Put it up here to discuss.
I think there's Definately a big element of humiliation to the male going off. I also think the cuckolding sometimes needs context and is sexier when it goes to a deeper level. Rather than man turns up, fucks wife, hubby watches etc
Of course I'm taking it a little extreme with this and it would need way more communication than I could put on here. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"the problem with fantasies is that some of it is realistic and other elements totally impractical. The key is to focus on the achievable elements and build from that. "
Agree 100% |
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Op we are looking for the female version of you although we would like her to be equal with us both and not just focusing on one half.
If anyone sees her about don’t keep her to yourself point her in our direction ?? |
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This scenario would definitely be something my girlfriend and I would explore. The only issue thus far is that the Dom/Bull’s she has met promised much, but delivered nothing. First guy had jealousy towards me, the gf liked him but he was unreliable and terribly jealous and needy. I suspect as with many on here he was with someone who wasn’t aware he was on here. Another guy became like a stalker lol and tried to woo her with his wealth! Found her on Facebook with a fake profile and kept looking as he was always number 1 friend suggestion! So the search continues, obviously nothing happening other than chatting at the moment.
So if the right guy came along OP definitely would be something we would do, however the emphasis is on the right chap! |
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We had a guy who came to us as a sub , but he has a massive cock , and he ended up being our bull to the wife for 5 yrs , we would have him over every 4 to 6 weeks and for the night he was sub to wife and I was sub to him , we would go to meals nights out then when we got back I was sub sissy hubby and all that entailed , he would fuck the wife deep and hard and she loved his cock making me gag on it. He turned out to be a bi top bull , very very rare , we do miss the friendship we had , unfortunately work took him away and meets just fizzled out , if only we could find another vwe bi top bull |
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A bit different to what you are looking for OP but although it wasn't something we were looking for we met a guy on here and ended up living in a poly relationship for three years with him moving in with us so never say never. Good luck in your search. |
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I've been lucky enough to have experienced this sort of similar scenario with several couples that have/are meeting over the years on the scene E.g gone to clubs, parties, hotels with wife or just had sex with the wife whilst hubby watches us or telly..... Whichever is the most interesting at the time lol.
I must admit I do find it a very fulfilling experience for all involved |
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By *harAndBryCouple
over a year ago
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We're not a Cuckold couple, we flirt between Hotwife and Stag/Vixen but we have something similar. Char has a semi-regular and I'm perfectly okay with them doing whatever and whenever they want. He has visited while I'm at work, they've talked about going clubbing together when the clubs open (clubs are so not my thing) and if they wanted to share the bed either with me or not then that's fine with me too. Only thing I ask is that I'm kept informed (before, during or after - just as long as nothing is done behind my back) and that I'm not "left out" - in that as long as things don't effect our relationship and what we do then all is good.
I even refer to him as her "boyfriend" at times. |
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I did something like this with my ex. Although we didn't use such language at the time, he is very submissive and he wanted me to cuckold him.
So I started seeing someone and it was okay for a while, but then... I fell in love with the third guy, and realised that, deep down, I wasn't happy with my ex. So we split up and then I found out that the third guy was lying and leading me on so he broke my heart...
The whole thing was really one big mess that I wish had never started. |
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"We had a guy who came to us as a sub , but he has a massive cock , and he ended up being our bull to the wife for 5 yrs , we would have him over every 4 to 6 weeks and for the night he was sub to wife and I was sub to him , we would go to meals nights out then when we got back I was sub sissy hubby and all that entailed , he would fuck the wife deep and hard and she loved his cock making me gag on it. He turned out to be a bi top bull , very very rare , we do miss the friendship we had , unfortunately work took him away and meets just fizzled out , if only we could find another vwe bi top bull "
This is the holy grail for me. Still hoping to find this kind of arrangement one day. X |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Great reading the replies guys. Especially with all the little twists added in.
So much to go at and discuss. The main thing always for me lies in his you all communicate straight from the off.
If boundaries and limes aren't discussed then it's a no go from the start lol
We live in hope x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I did something like this with my ex. Although we didn't use such language at the time, he is very submissive and he wanted me to cuckold him.
So I started seeing someone and it was okay for a while, but then... I fell in love with the third guy, and realised that, deep down, I wasn't happy with my ex. So we split up and then I found out that the third guy was lying and leading me on so he broke my heart...
The whole thing was really one big mess that I wish had never started. "
So sorry to hear that. There's no doubt it can dangerous territory hence why it's rare x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We're not a Cuckold couple, we flirt between Hotwife and Stag/Vixen but we have something similar. Char has a semi-regular and I'm perfectly okay with them doing whatever and whenever they want. He has visited while I'm at work, they've talked about going clubbing together when the clubs open (clubs are so not my thing) and if they wanted to share the bed either with me or not then that's fine with me too. Only thing I ask is that I'm kept informed (before, during or after - just as long as nothing is done behind my back) and that I'm not "left out" - in that as long as things don't effect our relationship and what we do then all is good.
I even refer to him as her "boyfriend" at times."
This sounds like a very thought out way of doing things and shows complete trust and love between you and partner from what I can tell. Hats off the guy for being respectful aswell as fulfilling his role. It's a fine line |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"A bit different to what you are looking for OP but although it wasn't something we were looking for we met a guy on here and ended up living in a poly relationship for three years with him moving in with us so never say never. Good luck in your search."
I'm not sure I could go as far as that but respect to you both for pursuing what you both wanted |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We had a guy who came to us as a sub , but he has a massive cock , and he ended up being our bull to the wife for 5 yrs , we would have him over every 4 to 6 weeks and for the night he was sub to wife and I was sub to him , we would go to meals nights out then when we got back I was sub sissy hubby and all that entailed , he would fuck the wife deep and hard and she loved his cock making me gag on it. He turned out to be a bi top bull , very very rare , we do miss the friendship we had , unfortunately work took him away and meets just fizzled out , if only we could find another vwe bi top bull "
Now THIS sounds AMAZING |
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"A bit different to what you are looking for OP but although it wasn't something we were looking for we met a guy on here and ended up living in a poly relationship for three years with him moving in with us so never say never. Good luck in your search.
I'm not sure I could go as far as that but respect to you both for pursuing what you both wanted "
It came as a surprise to us at the time  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"we would love something like this wife had a regular bull for 5 years looking for the same"
Good look I'm finding it. It's not for everyone I know but its something I'd love to explore more |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The right guy for a couple comes along. You will be the right guy for some couple op.
We as a couple stick to one gent at a time. Things become exclusive. They dont go else where and neither do we.
Our profile though stays active to keep chatting with fab friends it says not looking. Miss Hoolie hides her profile.
When things become exclusive things can be relaxed and more enjoyable. Can be friends and well as extras.
We been set for like 5 months now.
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