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"Maybe they adore white men, too, but they've already got one, so...." That's a fair point | |||
"I am intrigued why so many women on here adore black fellas but married to a white man" Mostly it's curiosity, maybe they didn't have it in them to try it before and now they want to. | |||
"I am intrigued why so many women on here adore black fellas but married to a white man" Because life's never black or white.  | |||
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"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. " Thats rude | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. Thats rude" It's a matter of mass debate | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. Thats rude" Let's leave the bullshit out of it and not go down that road please | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. Thats rude Let's leave the bullshit out of it and not go down that road please" Its a joke that people think like that but lets not go down that road | |||
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"If a woman needs more than her husbands cock to be fully satisfied then that’s what she should get in my opinion! And if her particular fancy is Black Guys then that’s her choice. I’m sure most of these wife’s love the bones of their husbands and having another guy or guys to meet their sexual needs probably enhances their relationship. I personally love seeing a woman fucked properly by a big black cock and would love to eventually meet a wife who wants to be fucked by multiple guys. I’m great at giving oral but 9 times out of ten a black guy with a big cock would fuck my wife better than I ever could. No woman should be deprived of the great sex they deserve." Cant agree more. Nothing hotter than seeing her satisfied | |||
"If a woman needs more than her husbands cock to be fully satisfied then that’s what she should get in my opinion! And if her particular fancy is Black Guys then that’s her choice. I’m sure most of these wife’s love the bones of their husbands and having another guy or guys to meet their sexual needs probably enhances their relationship. I personally love seeing a woman fucked properly by a big black cock and would love to eventually meet a wife who wants to be fucked by multiple guys. I’m great at giving oral but 9 times out of ten a black guy with a big cock would fuck my wife better than I ever could. No woman should be deprived of the great sex they deserve." It IS a womans prerogative to have sex with men she is attracted to What is it that attracts you to 'big black cocks'? | |||
"If a woman needs more than her husbands cock to be fully satisfied then that’s what she should get in my opinion! And if her particular fancy is Black Guys then that’s her choice. I’m sure most of these wife’s love the bones of their husbands and having another guy or guys to meet their sexual needs probably enhances their relationship. I personally love seeing a woman fucked properly by a big black cock and would love to eventually meet a wife who wants to be fucked by multiple guys. I’m great at giving oral but 9 times out of ten a black guy with a big cock would fuck my wife better than I ever could. No woman should be deprived of the great sex they deserve. It IS a womans prerogative to have sex with men she is attracted to What is it that attracts you to 'big black cocks'? " I am not attracted to cocks, if I was I would not have straight displayed on my profile. But I certainly recognize that most Black guys are blessed with bigger and thicker cocks than me and would definitely be able to satisfy a woman to better affect than me. Seeing a woman satisfied makes me satisfied. | |||
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"See comment above about fetishisation of black guys " Whats the difference between a woman being attracted to a black man and a woman fetishising a black man? How can YOU tell the difference between the 2? | |||
"I am intrigued why so many women on here adore black fellas but married to a white man" Because women have to marry every man they sleep with..... If not they must be crazy..... On a side note...... Why is it always white men that ask about why white women sleep with black men? | |||
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"I am intrigued why so many women on here adore black fellas but married to a white man Because women have to marry every man they sleep with..... If not they must be crazy..... On a side note...... Why is it always white men that ask about why white women sleep with black men? " As a follow up question..... Why do the same men also try to imply that the women doing so are just being racist by fetishising black men, and the black men have secret self hated of their race... Like wtf?? So the people enjoying interracial sex are the racist bigots according to this logic...... | |||
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"I believe fetishism is and act of desire and urge. Where as being attractive is visually pleasing." So how could you tell the difference when looking at 2 couples, One couple are attracted to each tother The other fetishise each other How does one differentiate the two? | |||
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"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. " 100% correct, whether people like to admit it or not | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. Thats rude" Y’all really like that? | |||
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"The language and behaviour are different when attracted vs being fetishized. From my time on fab attraction comes across as liking the whole person, height, looks, attitude, intelligence etc. I would put interracial couples in this group. Fetishisation is all cock talk: how bigs your cock? Are you girthy? Do you have stamina? Black guys are more virile, Black guys just fuck better (thats not entirely true), a black man will satisfy my woman more. Throw in all the dominant masterful bells and tassels and that to me is fetishisation. No regard for the guys pleasure, no regard for the woman pleasure either really sometimes. To answer the OP people use fab to settle fantasies and try new things and enhance their sex lives so if that means sex with someone of another race then so be it thats their business. " Round of applause.. Totally agree | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. " What a load of rubbish. Speaking as a lady who only meets black. There is so much more to it. But im afraid i will get the keyboard warriors if I go into it. And no nothing to do with Cock size. I was married to a white guy. Met my first black guy on here 4 years ago. Never went back. Only long relationship but so much to them than the old cliche and definitely not a fetishism. Thats derogatory to black guys | |||
"If a woman needs more than her husbands cock to be fully satisfied then that’s what she should get in my opinion! And if her particular fancy is Black Guys then that’s her choice. I’m sure most of these wife’s love the bones of their husbands and having another guy or guys to meet their sexual needs probably enhances their relationship. I personally love seeing a woman fucked properly by a big black cock and would love to eventually meet a wife who wants to be fucked by multiple guys. I’m great at giving oral but 9 times out of ten a black guy with a big cock would fuck my wife better than I ever could. No woman should be deprived of the great sex they deserve." Fucked by a big black cock. ????? Do they not have bodies or brains or character or chemistry attached to them. Obviously not in your eyes | |||
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"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. What a load of rubbish. Speaking as a lady who only meets black. There is so much more to it. But im afraid i will get the keyboard warriors if I go into it. And no nothing to do with Cock size. I was married to a white guy. Met my first black guy on here 4 years ago. Never went back. Only long relationship but so much to them than the old cliche and definitely not a fetishism. Thats derogatory to black guys" Just say it please xxx | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. What a load of rubbish. Speaking as a lady who only meets black. There is so much more to it. But im afraid i will get the keyboard warriors if I go into it. And no nothing to do with Cock size. I was married to a white guy. Met my first black guy on here 4 years ago. Never went back. Only long relationship but so much to them than the old cliche and definitely not a fetishism. Thats derogatory to black guys Just say it please xxx " I get enough abuse for my preference i dnt need anymore. Ive had the worst messages thrown at me. | |||
"The language and behaviour are different when attracted vs being fetishized. From my time on fab attraction comes across as liking the whole person, height, looks, attitude, intelligence etc. I would put interracial couples in this group. Fetishisation is all cock talk: how bigs your cock? Are you girthy? Do you have stamina? Black guys are more virile, Black guys just fuck better (thats not entirely true), a black man will satisfy my woman more. Throw in all the dominant masterful bells and tassels and that to me is fetishisation. No regard for the guys pleasure, no regard for the woman pleasure either really sometimes. To answer the OP people use fab to settle fantasies and try new things and enhance their sex lives so if that means sex with someone of another race then so be it thats their business. " Your attraction list is flawed. Intelligence and personality are not necessarily key. I see pictures of women Im attracted to all the time, their intelligence is completely unknown to me. The rest is merely your opinion, and whilst I'm sure some people may be like you describe the majority who enjoy interracial are not. You place interracial couples automatically exempt from this accusation.... Yet it would be entirely possible that they could be fetishising about the other race. Growing up I had a fetish for blondes,and I've married one. Although no one could ever really know what other people are actually thinking,and what their motivations are,it seems odd this would be treated as if its nefarious in some way. | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. What a load of rubbish. Speaking as a lady who only meets black. There is so much more to it. But im afraid i will get the keyboard warriors if I go into it. And no nothing to do with Cock size. I was married to a white guy. Met my first black guy on here 4 years ago. Never went back. Only long relationship but so much to them than the old cliche and definitely not a fetishism. Thats derogatory to black guys Just say it please xxx I get enough abuse for my preference i dnt need anymore. Ive had the worst messages thrown at me. " Abuse is never justified but maybe you won’t tell us why meeting only black, as you weirdly put it, is not fetishising black guys cause it will get you valid criticism. I speak as someone who is married to a white guy, meets black guys and white guys, has a black ‘boyfriend‘ but won’t ever say the stupid ‘once you go black...’ crap. I fail to see how observing the rampant fetishising of black guys by white folk is derogatory to black guys, could you explain that one | |||
"The language and behaviour are different when attracted vs being fetishized. From my time on fab attraction comes across as liking the whole person, height, looks, attitude, intelligence etc. I would put interracial couples in this group. Fetishisation is all cock talk: how bigs your cock? Are you girthy? Do you have stamina? Black guys are more virile, Black guys just fuck better (thats not entirely true), a black man will satisfy my woman more. Throw in all the dominant masterful bells and tassels and that to me is fetishisation. No regard for the guys pleasure, no regard for the woman pleasure either really sometimes. To answer the OP people use fab to settle fantasies and try new things and enhance their sex lives so if that means sex with someone of another race then so be it thats their business. " I tend to agree with this distinction between attraction and fetishising, definitely agree with the ‘no regard for the guy’s pleasure or even the woman‘s’, it happens a lot when the whole thing is driven by the husband who wants to see his wife fucked by a ‘big black cock’, I still struggle to understand why having sex with a black guy is a fantasy and sort of taboo, what lies underneath this fantasy? To me, that’s treating people as a fetish and inherently racist. Sex between people of different races is fantastic but shouldn’t be a fantasy. | |||
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"See comment above about fetishisation of black guys Whats the difference between a woman being attracted to a black man and a woman fetishising a black man? How can YOU tell the difference between the 2?" I think the key thing here is you don’t fetishise A black man, you fetishise black men. Same way you don’t have a fetish for one person’s feet in particular cause you happen to really like her/his feet but for feet in general. You can date just one black man, and it’d still be cause you fetishise an entire race. So maybe ‘I’ can’t tell the difference in a particular case, that still doesn’t change the fact that black guys are generally fetishised | |||
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"I am intrigued why so many women on here adore black fellas but married to a white man Because women have to marry every man they sleep with..... If not they must be crazy..... On a side note...... Why is it always white men that ask about why white women sleep with black men? As a follow up question..... Why do the same men also try to imply that the women doing so are just being racist by fetishising black men, and the black men have secret self hated of their race... Like wtf?? So the people enjoying interracial sex are the racist bigots according to this logic...... " People have interracial sex for different reasons, so yes, some of the people enjoying interracial sex are racist bigots and some are not, it stands to logic. But yes, in my opinion, if you ONLY have sex with black guys, probably you have to look closer and ask yourself why, ‘it’s just my preference’ is not enough | |||
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"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. What a load of rubbish. Speaking as a lady who only meets black. There is so much more to it. But im afraid i will get the keyboard warriors if I go into it. And no nothing to do with Cock size. I was married to a white guy. Met my first black guy on here 4 years ago. Never went back. Only long relationship but so much to them than the old cliche and definitely not a fetishism. Thats derogatory to black guys Just say it please xxx I get enough abuse for my preference i dnt need anymore. Ive had the worst messages thrown at me. Abuse is never justified but maybe you won’t tell us why meeting only black, as you weirdly put it, is not fetishising black guys cause it will get you valid criticism. I speak as someone who is married to a white guy, meets black guys and white guys, has a black ‘boyfriend‘ but won’t ever say the stupid ‘once you go black...’ crap. I fail to see how observing the rampant fetishising of black guys by white folk is derogatory to black guys, could you explain that one" Says her with a hidden profile or is it a he who knows. So no i dnt think I need to explain why. To a faceless hidden profile. I love my preference and for no other reason than I enjoy the sensual touch of a black guy end of. | |||
"I am intrigued why so many women on here adore black fellas but married to a white man Because women have to marry every man they sleep with..... If not they must be crazy..... On a side note...... Why is it always white men that ask about why white women sleep with black men? As a follow up question..... Why do the same men also try to imply that the women doing so are just being racist by fetishising black men, and the black men have secret self hated of their race... Like wtf?? So the people enjoying interracial sex are the racist bigots according to this logic...... People have interracial sex for different reasons, so yes, some of the people enjoying interracial sex are racist bigots and some are not, it stands to logic. But yes, in my opinion, if you ONLY have sex with black guys, probably you have to look closer and ask yourself why, ‘it’s just my preference’ is not enough " I think its my preference is quite enough. I enjoy the touch and act with a black guy . I dnt with a white man. Simple my dear | |||
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"For the past 5/6 years I’ve found myself only attracted to black men. I just find darker skin really beautiful. I wish I was attracted white guys still, it would make my life much easier as there are virtually no black people where I live so it’s hard to date or meet. My attraction to black men isn’t a fetish. I don’t enjoy any kind of race play. I don’t use the term BBC. When having sex with a black man I don’t ever make reference to him being black and me being white. And I think the whole QOS thing is really awful. I do think there’s a difference between attraction and fetishisation. " Now this i totally agree with and feel the same. I hate mentioning colour but I have no choice as its my preference. For me its skin colour. Their beautiful soft skin. Sensual touches. Kisses. The rest comes naturally. Im not saying its not the same with a white guy. I have just never met any that do this for me not even my ex husband. Sorry guys nothing personal | |||
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"And the fact we're discussing "why do people find are black people attractive" is a position of privilege. We'd never ask, "why do you want sex with a white person, what is it about them". I'm not having a conversation on it either its not up for debate." Maybe you should read the OPS question think you will see its not what he asked | |||
"For the past 5/6 years I’ve found myself only attracted to black men. I just find darker skin really beautiful. I wish I was attracted white guys still, it would make my life much easier as there are virtually no black people where I live so it’s hard to date or meet. My attraction to black men isn’t a fetish. I don’t enjoy any kind of race play. I don’t use the term BBC. When having sex with a black man I don’t ever make reference to him being black and me being white. And I think the whole QOS thing is really awful. I do think there’s a difference between attraction and fetishisation. " Well said and totally agree. We're a black and white couple, been together 24 years and our colour has never played any part of it whatsoever. Most of our meets have been with black guys, It's something I like to see, maybe subconsciously I identify. Who would have thought it, a black and white couple meeting black guys | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. Thats rude Let's leave the bullshit out of it and not go down that road please Its a joke that people think like that but lets not go down that road " Black men are fetishized/sexualised through readily accessible pornography, which influences the mainstream "BBC" "Blacked" "Black bull" "Black bred" All terms routinely used to objectify black men, sometimes by black males themselves who buy into these stereotypes to appeal to the fetish. I doubt there are many (rewarding) interracial relationships where a white female refers to her black partner as "BBC" or the relationship relies on her being "blacked". | |||
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"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. " The level of intelligence on here...
Op: is your question because the objects of your desires prefer black men and this is a "subtle" dig?
I ask because I've never seen any one ask why a married female seeks another woman as in, why not marry a woman if you want girl on girl action? Or if a woman wants a 6ft man but her husband is 5ft 4, why not a tall man?
What is it specifically about white women having a sexual preference for black men that offends? 
Disclaimer: my partner is white, met him on here seven years ago, my ex-husband black, so no issues here. | |||
"I am intrigued why so many women on here adore black fellas but married to a white man Because women have to marry every man they sleep with..... If not they must be crazy..... On a side note...... Why is it always white men that ask about why white women sleep with black men? " You noticed too huh! | |||
"I am intrigued why so many women on here adore black fellas but married to a white man Because women have to marry every man they sleep with..... If not they must be crazy..... On a side note...... Why is it always white men that ask about why white women sleep with black men? As a follow up question..... Why do the same men also try to imply that the women doing so are just being racist by fetishising black men, and the black men have secret self hated of their race... Like wtf?? So the people enjoying interracial sex are the racist bigots according to this logic...... " Not just me then! | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. What a load of rubbish. Speaking as a lady who only meets black. There is so much more to it. But im afraid i will get the keyboard warriors if I go into it. And no nothing to do with Cock size. I was married to a white guy. Met my first black guy on here 4 years ago. Never went back. Only long relationship but so much to them than the old cliche and definitely not a fetishism. Thats derogatory to black guys Just say it please xxx I get enough abuse for my preference i dnt need anymore. Ive had the worst messages thrown at me. Abuse is never justified but maybe you won’t tell us why meeting only black, as you weirdly put it, is not fetishising black guys cause it will get you valid criticism. I speak as someone who is married to a white guy, meets black guys and white guys, has a black ‘boyfriend‘ but won’t ever say the stupid ‘once you go black...’ crap. I fail to see how observing the rampant fetishising of black guys by white folk is derogatory to black guys, could you explain that one Says her with a hidden profile or is it a he who knows. So no i dnt think I need to explain why. To a faceless hidden profile. I love my preference and for no other reason than I enjoy the sensual touch of a black guy end of." I never said you had to explain it to ME, a hidden profile for my own reasons, but in general or even to yourself other than I like their skin (fetish) | |||
"For the past 5/6 years I’ve found myself only attracted to black men. I just find darker skin really beautiful. I wish I was attracted white guys still, it would make my life much easier as there are virtually no black people where I live so it’s hard to date or meet. My attraction to black men isn’t a fetish. I don’t enjoy any kind of race play. I don’t use the term BBC. When having sex with a black man I don’t ever make reference to him being black and me being white. And I think the whole QOS thing is really awful. I do think there’s a difference between attraction and fetishisation. " I agree, I never said if you are attracted to black guys automatically you are fetishising them, if you as you say use terms such as BBC or QOS likelihood is you are | |||
"And the fact we're discussing "why do people find are black people attractive" is a position of privilege. We'd never ask, "why do you want sex with a white person, what is it about them". I'm not having a conversation on it either its not up for debate." Spot on, it’ll go over people’s heads though, too deep for some | |||
"People like what they like. We dont care if you're black, white. A lovely shade of green with a purple border. Doesnt mean you love your partner any less. I dunno about the fetishised bit. Surely swinging is all about a break from (the norm) whatever your own personal (normal) may be. J" Exactly! I play with sexually submissive alpha males. My other half is an alpha male who can't even say the word submissive...and I wouldn't want him to be. For some swinging is adding something different to an already fulfilling relationship. Some people struggle to accept they aren't the required x factor! | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. The level of intelligence on here...
Op: is your question because the objects of your desires prefer black men and this is a "subtle" dig?
I ask because I've never seen any one ask why a married female seeks another woman as in, why not marry a woman if you want girl on girl action? Or if a woman wants a 6ft man but her husband is 5ft 4, why not a tall man?
What is it specifically about white women having a sexual preference for black men that offends?
Disclaimer: my partner is white, met him on here seven years ago, my ex-husband black, so no issues here. "You are very right, lots of white guys are butt hurt white women are looking for just black guys so the question from the OP could come from that point stand, but it’s still a valid as a genuine question to try to understand a phenomenon that actually occurs widely on here and everywhere else, including very clearly in porn, the fetishising of black guys. As the comments of some white guys here have proved, they are not having a dig or are offended, they are pointing out a reality. | |||
"I'm white and I love coloured ladies. I find it very sexy to play with different races of people. Does this mean I'm a nasty racist, who fetishises people in race play? "Only you can answer that question, do you play with them merely because of their race? Then probably yes you are, do you play with different races, including your own, cause you enjoy sex with the person and you don’t care what race they are? Then you are not. | |||
"For the past 5/6 years I’ve found myself only attracted to black men. I just find darker skin really beautiful. I wish I was attracted white guys still, it would make my life much easier as there are virtually no black people where I live so it’s hard to date or meet. My attraction to black men isn’t a fetish. I don’t enjoy any kind of race play. I don’t use the term BBC. When having sex with a black man I don’t ever make reference to him being black and me being white. And I think the whole QOS thing is really awful. I do think there’s a difference between attraction and fetishisation. I agree, I never said if you are attracted to black guys automatically you are fetishising them, if you as you say use terms such as BBC or QOS likelihood is you are" Yeah those terms are linked to fetish for me and are unpleasant. | |||
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"I have to say I've been called many things because of my preference. COVID least of my worries I've probably got aids. Im a worthless piece of trash. No decent man would have me and the list goes on and all white men" Butt hurt! Sends some into a rage, pmsl. Had the same type of messages..pathetic really. | |||
"I have to say I've been called many things because of my preference. COVID least of my worries I've probably got aids. Im a worthless piece of trash. No decent man would have me and the list goes on and all white men" And I said that kind of abuse is never right, and I have suffered it myself, cause there ARE pathetic racist white losers who feel threatened or whatever it is that make them send abuse. Still, it doesn’t change the fact that I would be questioning my reasons if I only met black guys, and it still doesn’t change the fact that many white couples on here who are ‘BBC only‘ fetishise and objectify black guys, whether they admit it or not. | |||
"I have to say I've been called many things because of my preference. COVID least of my worries I've probably got aids. Im a worthless piece of trash. No decent man would have me and the list goes on and all white men Butt hurt! Sends some into a rage, pmsl. Had the same type of messages..pathetic really." Absolutely, they think black guys are taking ‘their’ women or something, but I’d be interested in knowing what you, as an (beautiful) interracial couple, make of these white couples on here who exclusively meet black guys, ask for 3 BBCs for tonight, wear QOS markings... | |||
"I have to say I've been called many things because of my preference. COVID least of my worries I've probably got aids. Im a worthless piece of trash. No decent man would have me and the list goes on and all white men Butt hurt! Sends some into a rage, pmsl. Had the same type of messages..pathetic really." I'd like to say it doesn't bother me but if you are at a low it can get to you. I hate putting it on my profile but if I didnt I'd end up with endless messages . She says tongue in cheek lol. Its my choice why can't they respect that | |||
"I have to say I've been called many things because of my preference. COVID least of my worries I've probably got aids. Im a worthless piece of trash. No decent man would have me and the list goes on and all white men Butt hurt! Sends some into a rage, pmsl. Had the same type of messages..pathetic really. Absolutely, they think black guys are taking ‘their’ women or something, but I’d be interested in knowing what you, as an (beautiful) interracial couple, make of these white couples on here who exclusively meet black guys, ask for 3 BBCs for tonight, wear QOS markings... " I am in an interracial relationship and here merely to browse. We have never met couples as their demands are always too high. I think they have this illusion that a great big black guy with massive cock will pick them up and fuck them better. Lol. Not always so. My man is 6ft 4 and is the most gentle considerate man when he wants to be hahaha. So the myth is not true. These men are human beings and should not be labelled. I dnt go with black guys because I want a BBC a term i abhor. I have a lot of friends on here who are respectful and lovely sorry but I cannot say the same for white. I apologise if that offends | |||
"Here come the fireworks!!!" Look what I have started lol | |||
"Here come the fireworks!!! Look what I have started lol " No fireworks just general chat. Unless you want to make it that. Otherwise its chilled | |||
"Here come the fireworks!!! Look what I have started lol " Indeed! You asked the question OP, others have given their experiences and opinions, i’d be interested to hear yours...being as you started it.... | |||
"I have to say I've been called many things because of my preference. COVID least of my worries I've probably got aids. Im a worthless piece of trash. No decent man would have me and the list goes on and all white men Butt hurt! Sends some into a rage, pmsl. Had the same type of messages..pathetic really. Absolutely, they think black guys are taking ‘their’ women or something, but I’d be interested in knowing what you, as an (beautiful) interracial couple, make of these white couples on here who exclusively meet black guys, ask for 3 BBCs for tonight, wear QOS markings... " Well, thank you for the compliment, will pass that on to Mrs N for sure. Some on here already know my stance on this, not always a popular one. We treat fab as a place to act out some of our fantasies, threesomes, foursomes, moresomes and voyeuristic pleasure particularly on my part. We're not here for friends but hope the people we play with get just as much out of it as us. We're fine with the term bbc, Qos tattoos, race play you name it, all in the context of fantasy. Do I think it's appropriate in the real world, no, but this isn't the real world is it, it's sexual kinks, fantasies shared between others regardless of what anyone else thinks. Oh! White couples who meet black guys exclusively? They have their reasons and I'm sure the guys that meet them do too and all have a wonderful time playing together of that I'm pretty sure. The whys, I really couldn't care less. | |||
"I have to say I've been called many things because of my preference. COVID least of my worries I've probably got aids. Im a worthless piece of trash. No decent man would have me and the list goes on and all white men" . Sorry to read that you have received nasty messages from so called adult men.Racist comments are totally unacceptable in today’s society in fact they should never have been acceptable in any society in years gone by but that’s another story.We should respect others choices and preferences not send nasty vile racist messages. | |||
"I have to say I've been called many things because of my preference. COVID least of my worries I've probably got aids. Im a worthless piece of trash. No decent man would have me and the list goes on and all white men And I said that kind of abuse is never right, and I have suffered it myself, cause there ARE pathetic racist white losers who feel threatened or whatever it is that make them send abuse. Still, it doesn’t change the fact that I would be questioning my reasons if I only met black guys, and it still doesn’t change the fact that many white couples on here who are ‘BBC only‘ fetishise and objectify black guys, whether they admit it or not." | |||
"Here come the fireworks!!! Look what I have started lol Indeed! You asked the question OP, others have given their experiences and opinions, i’d be interested to hear yours...being as you started it...." Just intrigued I don't see a colour just a person of they are pretty and interesting that does it for me | |||
"If a woman needs more than her husbands cock to be fully satisfied then that’s what she should get in my opinion! And if her particular fancy is Black Guys then that’s her choice. I’m sure most of these wife’s love the bones of their husbands and having another guy or guys to meet their sexual needs probably enhances their relationship. I personally love seeing a woman fucked properly by a big black cock and would love to eventually meet a wife who wants to be fucked by multiple guys. I’m great at giving oral but 9 times out of ten a black guy with a big cock would fuck my wife better than I ever could. No woman should be deprived of the great sex they deserve." Couldn't have put it any better myself xx | |||
"I have to say I've been called many things because of my preference. COVID least of my worries I've probably got aids. Im a worthless piece of trash. No decent man would have me and the list goes on and all white men Butt hurt! Sends some into a rage, pmsl. Had the same type of messages..pathetic really. Absolutely, they think black guys are taking ‘their’ women or something, but I’d be interested in knowing what you, as an (beautiful) interracial couple, make of these white couples on here who exclusively meet black guys, ask for 3 BBCs for tonight, wear QOS markings... Well, thank you for the compliment, will pass that on to Mrs N for sure. Some on here already know my stance on this, not always a popular one. We treat fab as a place to act out some of our fantasies, threesomes, foursomes, moresomes and voyeuristic pleasure particularly on my part. We're not here for friends but hope the people we play with get just as much out of it as us. We're fine with the term bbc, Qos tattoos, race play you name it, all in the context of fantasy. Do I think it's appropriate in the real world, no, but this isn't the real world is it, it's sexual kinks, fantasies shared between others regardless of what anyone else thinks. Oh! White couples who meet black guys exclusively? They have their reasons and I'm sure the guys that meet them do too and all have a wonderful time playing together of that I'm pretty sure. The whys, I really couldn't care less. " Thank you for your reply, it makes me understand the issue better hearing the perspective of people such as yourselves, may you keep having a wonderful time on here Xx | |||
"I have to say I've been called many things because of my preference. COVID least of my worries I've probably got aids. Im a worthless piece of trash. No decent man would have me and the list goes on and all white men. Sorry to read that you have received nasty messages from so called adult men.Racist comments are totally unacceptable in today’s society in fact they should never have been acceptable in any society in years gone by but that’s another story.We should respect others choices and preferences not send nasty vile racist messages." Thank you for your very kind words it us very much appreciated and very true what you are saying. | |||
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"I am intrigued why so many women on here adore black fellas but married to a white man" Nothing else got your mind thinking??? Is there a reason this intrigues you as a lot goes on on here? | |||
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"A lot of women want to try black cock, and when they experienced it don't want white cock again. A friend of mine asked me to hook her up with my black mate.. I did and now they are a couple but she still has her white husband around as he said he loved her and would be willing to be in a sexless marriage if it pleased her. " I think that’s how a lot of cuckold relationships work, the cuck and wife live a normal married life but it’s the black bull that provides all her sexual pleasures ! | |||
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"I am intrigued why so many women on here adore black fellas but married to a white man Nothing else got your mind thinking??? Is there a reason this intrigues you as a lot goes on on here? " After nearly 90 replies it's clearly a topic people are happy to give their opinions | |||
"A lot of women want to try black cock, and when they experienced it don't want white cock again. A friend of mine asked me to hook her up with my black mate.. I did and now they are a couple but she still has her white husband around as he said he loved her and would be willing to be in a sexless marriage if it pleased her. " Well that settles it then | |||
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"Just to give you a perspective of fetishizing and black man or someone just liking a person that happens to be black.... Whenever I’ve dated a person of a different race and they say things like “ You don’t talk black “ Or “ I’m more black than you “ They are fetishizing me... When I’m in a relationship with a person of a different race......we tend to forget we are a different race and only the outside world reminds us that we are a interracial couple.... When it comes to the swinging world I enjoy being a dominant Bull.... I do not allow anyone to fetishize me because I have free will and I have no problem telling a couple no to something I’m not comfortable with..... "  | |||
"There are lots of things to like about blackmen, complexion, eyes, skin, physique and lips. The trouble is our expectations are il unrealistic, too many expect to unravel a big cock everytime" In that case there are lots of things to like about white men too, they can have skin, eyes, lips, physiques etc., but in reducing any race to stereotypical physical attributes we're objectifying them. I know fat black men with appalling skin and tiny cocks who happen to be perfectly lovely people, and white men with great skin and bodies who are prodigiously well endowed. | |||
"I'm mixed race. I'm more white but black in the groin area... " You can probably get ointment for that!  | |||
"Do I think it's appropriate in the real world, no, but this isn't the real world is it, it's sexual kinks, fantasies shared between others regardless of what anyone else thinks. " But part of the problem is the fetishization of black men is a reflection of stereotypes created and promoted in the real world, many with negative historical connotations. I remember old sayings from 70s, such as "..his wife's run off with a black man", as though that aggravates the situation. Interracial relationships were considered taboo and will continue to be so until whilst there's an overarching philosophy that makes being black a 'thing', rather than a community of individuals who exhibit the same complexities and range of personalities as the indigenous population. | |||
"Do I think it's appropriate in the real world, no, but this isn't the real world is it, it's sexual kinks, fantasies shared between others regardless of what anyone else thinks. But part of the problem is the fetishization of black men is a reflection of stereotypes created and promoted in the real world, many with negative historical connotations. I remember old sayings from 70s, such as "..his wife's run off with a black man", as though that aggravates the situation. Interracial relationships were considered taboo and will continue to be so until whilst there's an overarching philosophy that makes being black a 'thing', rather than a community of individuals who exhibit the same complexities and range of personalities as the indigenous population." I agree with this, I don’t make any distinctions between the real world and fab when it comes to racism, racism is racism anywhere, fab is a reflection of real life. I can’t see why being black is a ‘thing’ that lends itself to being a sexual fantasy. The way I see it, racist attitudes on fab just perpetuate the problem and permeates to the real world and the other way round, it’s not something kept separate in a tidy box that doesn’t spill into real life. As a white woman with a daughter who has had a black bf as a teenager (she’s now dating a white man, so much for the once you go black...) and who has a black bf I’d like to see much more awareness on this issue. | |||
"There are lots of things to like about blackmen, complexion, eyes, skin, physique and lips. The trouble is our expectations are il unrealistic, too many expect to unravel a big cock everytime In that case there are lots of things to like about white men too, they can have skin, eyes, lips, physiques etc., but in reducing any race to stereotypical physical attributes we're objectifying them. I know fat black men with appalling skin and tiny cocks who happen to be perfectly lovely people, and white men with great skin and bodies who are prodigiously well endowed." | |||
"I'm mixed race. I'm more white but black in the groin area... You can probably get ointment for that! "That just tickled me pink | |||
"I'm mixed race. I'm more white but black in the groin area... You can probably get ointment for that! " | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. Thats rude Let's leave the bullshit out of it and not go down that road please Its a joke that people think like that but lets not go down that road Black men are fetishized/sexualised through readily accessible pornography, which influences the mainstream "BBC" "Blacked" "Black bull" "Black bred" All terms routinely used to objectify black men, sometimes by black males themselves who buy into these stereotypes to appeal to the fetish. I doubt there are many (rewarding) interracial relationships where a white female refers to her black partner as "BBC" or the relationship relies on her being "blacked"." "Routinely used to objectify black men" Your talking about porn.... News flash - Theres porn objectifying ANYTHING and EVERYTHING! LOL That's kind of what porn does Either ways, if all parties concerned enjoy what they are doing, then wheres the problem? | |||
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"The language and behaviour are different when attracted vs being fetishized. From my time on fab attraction comes across as liking the whole person, height, looks, attitude, intelligence etc. I would put interracial couples in this group. Fetishisation is all cock talk: how bigs your cock? Are you girthy? Do you have stamina? Black guys are more virile, Black guys just fuck better (thats not entirely true), a black man will satisfy my woman more. Throw in all the dominant masterful bells and tassels and that to me is fetishisation. No regard for the guys pleasure, no regard for the woman pleasure either really sometimes. To answer the OP people use fab to settle fantasies and try new things and enhance their sex lives so if that means sex with someone of another race then so be it thats their business. " This!!
You nailed it, lady! As a black man, yes there can be an unhealthy fetish with some white people and for others, it’s just an appreciation for the person behind the colour and enjoying the human experience, including the sex.
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"I don't think that being attracted to black men is necessarily a fetish. I have a black f partner, I have always been attracted to black women. A lot of black men are very attractive when they are defined. I can understand the attraction. So are fit white men, attraction is a personal preference. What is not helpful is when people start making assumptions that ALL black men have big black cocks, as it sexualises black men. Not all black men are physically attractive, and not all have BBC. It sexualises black people, reinforces negative stereotypes and this is not helpful. " 100% agree. Great post. I have been on meets where women have mentioned meeting a black man who was not well-endowed with Argo degrees of shock or surprise. As if it’s not the most normal thing in the world to run into men of different coloured with differing cock sizes. That where the absurdity is - that somehow having more melanin equates to having a big appendage. In the 20th century, no doubt. Sure a woman can have a preference for black men on the basis of their culture, looks or other reasons but if your secret reasons we cos of cock size, you have to look deep within and ask yourself just how far you have come from centuries ago when these racist tropes were first peddled to inhumanise is in the first place. | |||
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"My wife would love a black cock" How would she feel about the man said cock is attached to? | |||
"My wife would love a black cock How would she feel about the man said cock is attached to?" does she have to anything? | |||
"My wife would love a black cock How would she feel about the man said cock is attached to? does she have to anything?" feel | |||
"My wife would love a black cock How would she feel about the man said cock is attached to?" This is fabswingers not lifepartners,if 2 adults want to have consensual sex with no emotional feeling, then that's 100% fine | |||
"Do I think it's appropriate in the real world, no, but this isn't the real world is it, it's sexual kinks, fantasies shared between others regardless of what anyone else thinks. But part of the problem is the fetishization of black men is a reflection of stereotypes created and promoted in the real world, many with negative historical connotations. I remember old sayings from 70s, such as "..his wife's run off with a black man", as though that aggravates the situation. Interracial relationships were considered taboo and will continue to be so until whilst there's an overarching philosophy that makes being black a 'thing', rather than a community of individuals who exhibit the same complexities and range of personalities as the indigenous population. I agree with this, I don’t make any distinctions between the real world and fab when it comes to racism, racism is racism anywhere, fab is a reflection of real life. I can’t see why being black is a ‘thing’ that lends itself to being a sexual fantasy. The way I see it, racist attitudes on fab just perpetuate the problem and permeates to the real world and the other way round, it’s not something kept separate in a tidy box that doesn’t spill into real life. As a white woman with a daughter who has had a black bf as a teenager (she’s now dating a white man, so much for the once you go black...) and who has a black bf I’d like to see much more awareness on this issue. " Great posts from both of you. I have to say I am really liking the debate on this thread. These are conversations that are sorely needed to challenge the unrealised biases that people harbour and I think this thread is a great reason why the forums are a good addition to the site. | |||
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"Do I think it's appropriate in the real world, no, but this isn't the real world is it, it's sexual kinks, fantasies shared between others regardless of what anyone else thinks. But part of the problem is the fetishization of black men is a reflection of stereotypes created and promoted in the real world, many with negative historical connotations. I remember old sayings from 70s, such as "..his wife's run off with a black man", as though that aggravates the situation. Interracial relationships were considered taboo and will continue to be so until whilst there's an overarching philosophy that makes being black a 'thing', rather than a community of individuals who exhibit the same complexities and range of personalities as the indigenous population. I agree with this, I don’t make any distinctions between the real world and fab when it comes to racism, racism is racism anywhere, fab is a reflection of real life. I can’t see why being black is a ‘thing’ that lends itself to being a sexual fantasy. The way I see it, racist attitudes on fab just perpetuate the problem and permeates to the real world and the other way round, it’s not something kept separate in a tidy box that doesn’t spill into real life. As a white woman with a daughter who has had a black bf as a teenager (she’s now dating a white man, so much for the once you go black...) and who has a black bf I’d like to see much more awareness on this issue. Great posts from both of you. I have to say I am really liking the debate on this thread. These are conversations that are sorely needed to challenge the unrealised biases that people harbour and I think this thread is a great reason why the forums are a good addition to the site." "Unrealised biases" I'm not sure that's the case, and there's no tangible way to know this either. My issue with this school of thought is that it ascribes motives to people's actions, when in reality we have no idea,only they do. | |||
"Do I think it's appropriate in the real world, no, but this isn't the real world is it, it's sexual kinks, fantasies shared between others regardless of what anyone else thinks. But part of the problem is the fetishization of black men is a reflection of stereotypes created and promoted in the real world, many with negative historical connotations. I remember old sayings from 70s, such as "..his wife's run off with a black man", as though that aggravates the situation. Interracial relationships were considered taboo and will continue to be so until whilst there's an overarching philosophy that makes being black a 'thing', rather than a community of individuals who exhibit the same complexities and range of personalities as the indigenous population. I agree with this, I don’t make any distinctions between the real world and fab when it comes to racism, racism is racism anywhere, fab is a reflection of real life. I can’t see why being black is a ‘thing’ that lends itself to being a sexual fantasy. The way I see it, racist attitudes on fab just perpetuate the problem and permeates to the real world and the other way round, it’s not something kept separate in a tidy box that doesn’t spill into real life. As a white woman with a daughter who has had a black bf as a teenager (she’s now dating a white man, so much for the once you go black...) and who has a black bf I’d like to see much more awareness on this issue. Great posts from both of you. I have to say I am really liking the debate on this thread. These are conversations that are sorely needed to challenge the unrealised biases that people harbour and I think this thread is a great reason why the forums are a good addition to the site. "Unrealised biases" I'm not sure that's the case, and there's no tangible way to know this either. My issue with this school of thought is that it ascribes motives to people's actions, when in reality we have no idea,only they do. " So are you saying people do realise they are being low key racists but they don’t care? So what do you propose, let everybody have their own reasons and not discuss racial issues? I’m not individually telling people how to live their lives but I’d like to see a debate. And maybe some people would check and change their attitudes, I know I have. Either those biases, and no one can’t deny they exist, are realised or not realised by people, either they have thought about why it’s wrong to make a fetish out of people, in this case a whole race, and decided they don’t care or they haven’t thought about it and perhaps they should. That’s why it’d be helpful if those people went a bit further than ‘it’s my preference’, preferences don’t exist in a vacuum, they are manufactured and inherited via socialization. And in this case, through historical racism. Maybe everyone should ask themselves *WHY* they ‘prefer’ ONLY and exclusively black guys, I know I would. | |||
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"Do I think it's appropriate in the real world, no, but this isn't the real world is it, it's sexual kinks, fantasies shared between others regardless of what anyone else thinks. But part of the problem is the fetishization of black men is a reflection of stereotypes created and promoted in the real world, many with negative historical connotations. I remember old sayings from 70s, such as "..his wife's run off with a black man", as though that aggravates the situation. Interracial relationships were considered taboo and will continue to be so until whilst there's an overarching philosophy that makes being black a 'thing', rather than a community of individuals who exhibit the same complexities and range of personalities as the indigenous population. I agree with this, I don’t make any distinctions between the real world and fab when it comes to racism, racism is racism anywhere, fab is a reflection of real life. I can’t see why being black is a ‘thing’ that lends itself to being a sexual fantasy. The way I see it, racist attitudes on fab just perpetuate the problem and permeates to the real world and the other way round, it’s not something kept separate in a tidy box that doesn’t spill into real life. As a white woman with a daughter who has had a black bf as a teenager (she’s now dating a white man, so much for the once you go black...) and who has a black bf I’d like to see much more awareness on this issue. Great posts from both of you. I have to say I am really liking the debate on this thread. These are conversations that are sorely needed to challenge the unrealised biases that people harbour and I think this thread is a great reason why the forums are a good addition to the site. "Unrealised biases" I'm not sure that's the case, and there's no tangible way to know this either. My issue with this school of thought is that it ascribes motives to people's actions, when in reality we have no idea,only they do. So are you saying people do realise they are being low key racists but they don’t care? So what do you propose, let everybody have their own reasons and not discuss racial issues? I’m not individually telling people how to live their lives but I’d like to see a debate. And maybe some people would check and change their attitudes, I know I have. Either those biases, and no one can’t deny they exist, are realised or not realised by people, either they have thought about why it’s wrong to make a fetish out of people, in this case a whole race, and decided they don’t care or they haven’t thought about it and perhaps they should. That’s why it’d be helpful if those people went a bit further than ‘it’s my preference’, preferences don’t exist in a vacuum, they are manufactured and inherited via socialization. And in this case, through historical racism. Maybe everyone should ask themselves *WHY* they ‘prefer’ ONLY and exclusively black guys, I know I would. " Everything you wrote is all your assumptions. Your saying women who only wants to sleep with black men is a low key racist??? !!! It's laughable logic "Preferences are manufactured and inherited via socialisation" No,not in all cases, certainly not in all sexual preferences Again just your projections of what YOU think peoples motives are. | |||
"We all forget that we are people, with multiple levels of intellectual desires either just physical or mental but altimatelly we are not perfect, now trying to determine if black and white are this or that is just stupid. We have all our own desires and temptations that are individual and only that person themselves will know. So as long as we are all enjoying, pleasing, having great times who cares what each others preferences are...!!!???" 100% If everyone's having fun doing what they like, who are we to judge? | |||
"We all forget that we are people, with multiple levels of intellectual desires either just physical or mental but altimatelly we are not perfect, now trying to determine if black and white are this or that is just stupid. We have all our own desires and temptations that are individual and only that person themselves will know. So as long as we are all enjoying, pleasing, having great times who cares what each others preferences are...!!!???" Way to miss the point. Cause it’s not just a preference. No one is perfect and we all have different desires. Agreed. But we should also respect each other and those desires shouldn’t be inherently racist, so when in the middle of the BLM movement white people feel saying ‘black dicks matter’ is a statement of support and appreciation then there’s a problem. When a whole spectrum of people are objectified and made indistinguisble from each other there’s a problem. I don’t care about what people do in their bedroom, but I do care about say my daughter not being critical and ending up adopting racist and stereotypical attitudes through lack of assessing where those desires come from. Why is being black a thing when it comes to fantasies? As somebody pointed out in here, why are we discussing why are black men attractive, what is it about them? And not discussing what makes white men attractive? Why is sleeping with a black guy a THING to try and tick off a bucket list? Why so much emphasis on being the FIRST black guy one sleeps with as if it’s a badge of honour? | |||
"Do I think it's appropriate in the real world, no, but this isn't the real world is it, it's sexual kinks, fantasies shared between others regardless of what anyone else thinks. But part of the problem is the fetishization of black men is a reflection of stereotypes created and promoted in the real world, many with negative historical connotations. I remember old sayings from 70s, such as "..his wife's run off with a black man", as though that aggravates the situation. Interracial relationships were considered taboo and will continue to be so until whilst there's an overarching philosophy that makes being black a 'thing', rather than a community of individuals who exhibit the same complexities and range of personalities as the indigenous population. I agree with this, I don’t make any distinctions between the real world and fab when it comes to racism, racism is racism anywhere, fab is a reflection of real life. I can’t see why being black is a ‘thing’ that lends itself to being a sexual fantasy. The way I see it, racist attitudes on fab just perpetuate the problem and permeates to the real world and the other way round, it’s not something kept separate in a tidy box that doesn’t spill into real life. As a white woman with a daughter who has had a black bf as a teenager (she’s now dating a white man, so much for the once you go black...) and who has a black bf I’d like to see much more awareness on this issue. Great posts from both of you. I have to say I am really liking the debate on this thread. These are conversations that are sorely needed to challenge the unrealised biases that people harbour and I think this thread is a great reason why the forums are a good addition to the site. "Unrealised biases" I'm not sure that's the case, and there's no tangible way to know this either. My issue with this school of thought is that it ascribes motives to people's actions, when in reality we have no idea,only they do. So are you saying people do realise they are being low key racists but they don’t care? So what do you propose, let everybody have their own reasons and not discuss racial issues? I’m not individually telling people how to live their lives but I’d like to see a debate. And maybe some people would check and change their attitudes, I know I have. Either those biases, and no one can’t deny they exist, are realised or not realised by people, either they have thought about why it’s wrong to make a fetish out of people, in this case a whole race, and decided they don’t care or they haven’t thought about it and perhaps they should. That’s why it’d be helpful if those people went a bit further than ‘it’s my preference’, preferences don’t exist in a vacuum, they are manufactured and inherited via socialization. And in this case, through historical racism. Maybe everyone should ask themselves *WHY* they ‘prefer’ ONLY and exclusively black guys, I know I would. Everything you wrote is all your assumptions. Your saying women who only wants to sleep with black men is a low key racist??? !!! It's laughable logic "Preferences are manufactured and inherited via socialisation" No,not in all cases, certainly not in all sexual preferences Again just your projections of what YOU think peoples motives are. " I’m not projecting, I’m asking people what their motives are, not judging individual people. Maybe that way I’ll understand in which way only sleeping with black people is not low key racist. But all I get is people getting defensive. | |||
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"Do I think it's appropriate in the real world, no, but this isn't the real world is it, it's sexual kinks, fantasies shared between others regardless of what anyone else thinks. But part of the problem is the fetishization of black men is a reflection of stereotypes created and promoted in the real world, many with negative historical connotations. I remember old sayings from 70s, such as "..his wife's run off with a black man", as though that aggravates the situation. Interracial relationships were considered taboo and will continue to be so until whilst there's an overarching philosophy that makes being black a 'thing', rather than a community of individuals who exhibit the same complexities and range of personalities as the indigenous population. I agree with this, I don’t make any distinctions between the real world and fab when it comes to racism, racism is racism anywhere, fab is a reflection of real life. I can’t see why being black is a ‘thing’ that lends itself to being a sexual fantasy. The way I see it, racist attitudes on fab just perpetuate the problem and permeates to the real world and the other way round, it’s not something kept separate in a tidy box that doesn’t spill into real life. As a white woman with a daughter who has had a black bf as a teenager (she’s now dating a white man, so much for the once you go black...) and who has a black bf I’d like to see much more awareness on this issue. Great posts from both of you. I have to say I am really liking the debate on this thread. These are conversations that are sorely needed to challenge the unrealised biases that people harbour and I think this thread is a great reason why the forums are a good addition to the site. "Unrealised biases" I'm not sure that's the case, and there's no tangible way to know this either. My issue with this school of thought is that it ascribes motives to people's actions, when in reality we have no idea,only they do. So are you saying people do realise they are being low key racists but they don’t care? So what do you propose, let everybody have their own reasons and not discuss racial issues? I’m not individually telling people how to live their lives but I’d like to see a debate. And maybe some people would check and change their attitudes, I know I have. Either those biases, and no one can’t deny they exist, are realised or not realised by people, either they have thought about why it’s wrong to make a fetish out of people, in this case a whole race, and decided they don’t care or they haven’t thought about it and perhaps they should. That’s why it’d be helpful if those people went a bit further than ‘it’s my preference’, preferences don’t exist in a vacuum, they are manufactured and inherited via socialization. And in this case, through historical racism. Maybe everyone should ask themselves *WHY* they ‘prefer’ ONLY and exclusively black guys, I know I would. Everything you wrote is all your assumptions. Your saying women who only wants to sleep with black men is a low key racist??? !!! It's laughable logic "Preferences are manufactured and inherited via socialisation" No,not in all cases, certainly not in all sexual preferences Again just your projections of what YOU think peoples motives are. I’m not projecting, I’m asking people what their motives are, not judging individual people. Maybe that way I’ll understand in which way only sleeping with black people is not low key racist. But all I get is people getting defensive." Your not asking at all, your telling us what YOU think their motives are. Again calling people low key racist is simply YOUR opinion And you asked why is it only black is sexualised? EVERYTHING is sexualised in porn Look at the categorys list, there's plenty of examples of things getting fetishised. Thousands. OK so those white ladies in question need to stop having sex with black men to fight racism....
My the world has changed
Racism in 2020 is a white woman wanting to have sex with black men!
Can you imagine explaining this horrific racism to those of yesteryear...
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"Do I think it's appropriate in the real world, no, but this isn't the real world is it, it's sexual kinks, fantasies shared between others regardless of what anyone else thinks. But part of the problem is the fetishization of black men is a reflection of stereotypes created and promoted in the real world, many with negative historical connotations. I remember old sayings from 70s, such as "..his wife's run off with a black man", as though that aggravates the situation. Interracial relationships were considered taboo and will continue to be so until whilst there's an overarching philosophy that makes being black a 'thing', rather than a community of individuals who exhibit the same complexities and range of personalities as the indigenous population. I agree with this, I don’t make any distinctions between the real world and fab when it comes to racism, racism is racism anywhere, fab is a reflection of real life. I can’t see why being black is a ‘thing’ that lends itself to being a sexual fantasy. The way I see it, racist attitudes on fab just perpetuate the problem and permeates to the real world and the other way round, it’s not something kept separate in a tidy box that doesn’t spill into real life. As a white woman with a daughter who has had a black bf as a teenager (she’s now dating a white man, so much for the once you go black...) and who has a black bf I’d like to see much more awareness on this issue. Great posts from both of you. I have to say I am really liking the debate on this thread. These are conversations that are sorely needed to challenge the unrealised biases that people harbour and I think this thread is a great reason why the forums are a good addition to the site. "Unrealised biases" I'm not sure that's the case, and there's no tangible way to know this either. My issue with this school of thought is that it ascribes motives to people's actions, when in reality we have no idea,only they do. So are you saying people do realise they are being low key racists but they don’t care? So what do you propose, let everybody have their own reasons and not discuss racial issues? I’m not individually telling people how to live their lives but I’d like to see a debate. And maybe some people would check and change their attitudes, I know I have. Either those biases, and no one can’t deny they exist, are realised or not realised by people, either they have thought about why it’s wrong to make a fetish out of people, in this case a whole race, and decided they don’t care or they haven’t thought about it and perhaps they should. That’s why it’d be helpful if those people went a bit further than ‘it’s my preference’, preferences don’t exist in a vacuum, they are manufactured and inherited via socialization. And in this case, through historical racism. Maybe everyone should ask themselves *WHY* they ‘prefer’ ONLY and exclusively black guys, I know I would. Everything you wrote is all your assumptions. Your saying women who only wants to sleep with black men is a low key racist??? !!! It's laughable logic "Preferences are manufactured and inherited via socialisation" No,not in all cases, certainly not in all sexual preferences Again just your projections of what YOU think peoples motives are. I’m not projecting, I’m asking people what their motives are, not judging individual people. Maybe that way I’ll understand in which way only sleeping with black people is not low key racist. But all I get is people getting defensive. Your not asking at all, your telling us what YOU think their motives are. Again calling people low key racist is simply YOUR opinion And you asked why is it only black is sexualised? EVERYTHING is sexualised in porn Look at the categorys list, there's plenty of examples of things getting fetishised. Thousands. OK so those white ladies in question need to stop having sex with black men to fight racism....
My the world has changed
Racism in 2020 is a white woman wanting to have sex with black men!
Can you imagine explaining this horrific racism to those of yesteryear...
"No, I’m asking, sincerely asking what motivates white women to sleep EXCLUSIVELY with black guys outside their marriage We are not talking just about porn, and you said it, THINGS can be fetished, not people, people are not or should not be fetishes I’m white and married to a white man, I have a black boyfriend who won’t ever see someone who refers to him as BBC and all the rest and I meet other black guys (well, precovid I did) who are happy to play with BBC only couples and I’m sure everyone has a great time, I’m not judging individuals and in no way advocating white women should stop having sex with black guys to stop racism, that’s just being obtuse on purpose | |||
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""No, I’m asking, sincerely asking what motivates white women to sleep EXCLUSIVELY with black guys outside their marriage" Give me an example of a racist answer to this And a non racist answer " If I knew the answer I wouldn’t be asking... | |||
""No, I’m asking, sincerely asking what motivates white women to sleep EXCLUSIVELY with black guys outside their marriage" Give me an example of a racist answer to this And a non racist answer " I can give you lots of racist answers to this, all you need to do is give a non racist one and then the matter is settled (other than it’s my preference, what it is is your CHOICE and I’m happy to accept that and that you don’t want to discuss it) | |||
""No, I’m asking, sincerely asking what motivates white women to sleep EXCLUSIVELY with black guys outside their marriage" Give me an example of a racist answer to this And a non racist answer If I knew the answer I wouldn’t be asking..." You can't think of plausible scenarios for either? You simply can't think of an answer anyone could give that YOU wouldn't deem racist, which is why you can't answer that question. | |||
""No, I’m asking, sincerely asking what motivates white women to sleep EXCLUSIVELY with black guys outside their marriage" Give me an example of a racist answer to this And a non racist answer I can give you lots of racist answers to this, all you need to do is give a non racist one and then the matter is settled (other than it’s my preference, what it is is your CHOICE and I’m happy to accept that and that you don’t want to discuss it)" Exactly what my point makes above To you, EVERY answer is racist. | |||
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"Sure though one non racist answer The lady enjoys a difference in skin tone compared to her husband. A change " Oh dear | |||
"Sure though one non racist answer The lady enjoys a difference in skin tone compared to her husband. A change Oh dear" This is racist? How did I guess lol | |||
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"And the fact we're discussing "why do people find are black people attractive" is a position of privilege. We'd never ask, "why do you want sex with a white person, what is it about them". Why even comment then?? I'm not having a conversation on it either its not up for debate." | |||
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"We all forget that we are people, with multiple levels of intellectual desires either just physical or mental but altimatelly we are not perfect, now trying to determine if black and white are this or that is just stupid. We have all our own desires and temptations that are individual and only that person themselves will know. So as long as we are all enjoying, pleasing, having great times who cares what each others preferences are...!!!??? Way to miss the point. Cause it’s not just a preference. No one is perfect and we all have different desires. Agreed. But we should also respect each other and those desires shouldn’t be inherently racist, so when in the middle of the BLM movement white people feel saying ‘black dicks matter’ is a statement of support and appreciation then there’s a problem. When a whole spectrum of people are objectified and made indistinguisble from each other there’s a problem. I don’t care about what people do in their bedroom, but I do care about say my daughter not being critical and ending up adopting racist and stereotypical attitudes through lack of assessing where those desires come from. Why is being black a thing when it comes to fantasies? As somebody pointed out in here, why are we discussing why are black men attractive, what is it about them? And not discussing what makes white men attractive? Why is sleeping with a black guy a THING to try and tick off a bucket list? Why so much emphasis on being the FIRST black guy one sleeps with as if it’s a badge of honour? " Do you ask why people prefer milfs or cougars or sugar daddies or any other demographic? Go analyse that no one wants to hear what you have to say about people who like black people and why it’s an issue, I would think this site is a place for anyone to fulfill whatever fantasy they want as long as they aren’t hurting anyone unless said person likes being hurt which I’m sure someone on this site does | |||
"We all forget that we are people, with multiple levels of intellectual desires either just physical or mental but altimatelly we are not perfect, now trying to determine if black and white are this or that is just stupid. We have all our own desires and temptations that are individual and only that person themselves will know. So as long as we are all enjoying, pleasing, having great times who cares what each others preferences are...!!!??? Way to miss the point. Cause it’s not just a preference. No one is perfect and we all have different desires. Agreed. But we should also respect each other and those desires shouldn’t be inherently racist, so when in the middle of the BLM movement white people feel saying ‘black dicks matter’ is a statement of support and appreciation then there’s a problem. When a whole spectrum of people are objectified and made indistinguisble from each other there’s a problem. I don’t care about what people do in their bedroom, but I do care about say my daughter not being critical and ending up adopting racist and stereotypical attitudes through lack of assessing where those desires come from. Why is being black a thing when it comes to fantasies? As somebody pointed out in here, why are we discussing why are black men attractive, what is it about them? And not discussing what makes white men attractive? Why is sleeping with a black guy a THING to try and tick off a bucket list? Why so much emphasis on being the FIRST black guy one sleeps with as if it’s a badge of honour? Do you ask why people prefer milfs or cougars or sugar daddies or any other demographic? Go analyse that no one wants to hear what you have to say about people who like black people and why it’s an issue, I would think this site is a place for anyone to fulfill whatever fantasy they want as long as they aren’t hurting anyone unless said person likes being hurt which I’m sure someone on this site does "I thought you couldn’t be asked to explain why everyone was talking shite, but if that’s your contribution, it would have been better if you didn’t make the effort, we are all enlightened now, thank you | |||
"We all forget that we are people, with multiple levels of intellectual desires either just physical or mental but altimatelly we are not perfect, now trying to determine if black and white are this or that is just stupid. We have all our own desires and temptations that are individual and only that person themselves will know. So as long as we are all enjoying, pleasing, having great times who cares what each others preferences are...!!!??? Way to miss the point. Cause it’s not just a preference. No one is perfect and we all have different desires. Agreed. But we should also respect each other and those desires shouldn’t be inherently racist, so when in the middle of the BLM movement white people feel saying ‘black dicks matter’ is a statement of support and appreciation then there’s a problem. When a whole spectrum of people are objectified and made indistinguisble from each other there’s a problem. I don’t care about what people do in their bedroom, but I do care about say my daughter not being critical and ending up adopting racist and stereotypical attitudes through lack of assessing where those desires come from. Why is being black a thing when it comes to fantasies? As somebody pointed out in here, why are we discussing why are black men attractive, what is it about them? And not discussing what makes white men attractive? Why is sleeping with a black guy a THING to try and tick off a bucket list? Why so much emphasis on being the FIRST black guy one sleeps with as if it’s a badge of honour? Do you ask why people prefer milfs or cougars or sugar daddies or any other demographic? Go analyse that no one wants to hear what you have to say about people who like black people and why it’s an issue, I would think this site is a place for anyone to fulfill whatever fantasy they want as long as they aren’t hurting anyone unless said person likes being hurt which I’m sure someone on this site does
I thought you couldn’t be asked to explain why everyone was talking shite, but if that’s your contribution, it would have been better if you didn’t make the effort, we are all enlightened now, thank you "When I said everyone I was just frustrated can admit that. I only meant you your talking shite and continue to I just couldn’t hold back | |||
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""No, I’m asking, sincerely asking what motivates white women to sleep EXCLUSIVELY with black guys outside their marriage" Give me an example of a racist answer to this And a non racist answer " Non accountability and nimbyism. | |||
"Theres some really unkind responses on this thread and some really insightful and helpful ones. I feel the OP starter was stirring the shit pan when he started this thread because Interracial attraction/sex/relationships will always be a bone of contention for some. Some will defend it and some wont care. As long as you are going about your business with kindness and respect and love then what more is there to do? " I don’t know the reasons why the OP started this thread, stirring the pot or just making an observation. In an ideal world, interracial relationships/sex shouldn’t be an issue but there are historical negative connotations that make it so. I talk to lots of black guys who would like attitudes changed, and to a lot of black guys who don’t care as long as a basic amount of respect is there, I’m not here to speak on their behalf, I’m friends with both types. But I believe we white people have to do some uncomfortable introspection, so yes, some people will go about with kindness and respect and love as you say and some people will fall whether they realise or not (and I do believe the great majority are well meaning) into inherently racist attitudes. Attributing a set of characteristics to a whole ethnic group is inherently racist, referring to guys as BBC, talking about being blacked... is in my view, problematic. | |||
""No, I’m asking, sincerely asking what motivates white women to sleep EXCLUSIVELY with black guys outside their marriage" Give me an example of a racist answer to this And a non racist answer Non accountability and nimbyism." Not sure what your reply is eluding to? Perhaps I've missed something | |||
"Theres some really unkind responses on this thread and some really insightful and helpful ones. I feel the OP starter was stirring the shit pan when he started this thread because Interracial attraction/sex/relationships will always be a bone of contention for some. Some will defend it and some wont care. As long as you are going about your business with kindness and respect and love then what more is there to do? I don’t know the reasons why the OP started this thread, stirring the pot or just making an observation. In an ideal world, interracial relationships/sex shouldn’t be an issue but there are historical negative connotations that make it so. I talk to lots of black guys who would like attitudes changed, and to a lot of black guys who don’t care as long as a basic amount of respect is there, I’m not here to speak on their behalf, I’m friends with both types. But I believe we white people have to do some uncomfortable introspection, so yes, some people will go about with kindness and respect and love as you say and some people will fall whether they realise or not (and I do believe the great majority are well meaning) into inherently racist attitudes. Attributing a set of characteristics to a whole ethnic group is inherently racist, referring to guys as BBC, talking about being blacked... is IN MY VIEW , problematic." Exactly!!! IN YOUR VIEW The majority of people involved in interracial fun on here do NOT share this belief They see it as sexual fun. You view it as racist | |||
"Theres some really unkind responses on this thread and some really insightful and helpful ones. I feel the OP starter was stirring the shit pan when he started this thread because Interracial attraction/sex/relationships will always be a bone of contention for some. Some will defend it and some wont care. As long as you are going about your business with kindness and respect and love then what more is there to do? I don’t know the reasons why the OP started this thread, stirring the pot or just making an observation. In an ideal world, interracial relationships/sex shouldn’t be an issue but there are historical negative connotations that make it so. I talk to lots of black guys who would like attitudes changed, and to a lot of black guys who don’t care as long as a basic amount of respect is there, I’m not here to speak on their behalf, I’m friends with both types. But I believe we white people have to do some uncomfortable introspection, so yes, some people will go about with kindness and respect and love as you say and some people will fall whether they realise or not (and I do believe the great majority are well meaning) into inherently racist attitudes. Attributing a set of characteristics to a whole ethnic group is inherently racist, referring to guys as BBC, talking about being blacked... is IN MY VIEW , problematic. Exactly!!! IN YOUR VIEW The majority of people involved in interracial fun on here do NOT share this belief They see it as sexual fun. You view it as racist " It goes without saying that everything I say is my view duh And I realise most people don’t share my views | |||
"Theres some really unkind responses on this thread and some really insightful and helpful ones. I feel the OP starter was stirring the shit pan when he started this thread because Interracial attraction/sex/relationships will always be a bone of contention for some. Some will defend it and some wont care. As long as you are going about your business with kindness and respect and love then what more is there to do? " I am someone into kink and believe what you do in the privacy of your bedroom or in private is noone's business provided it is not abusive or consensual. On many fronts people are trying to close down the slogan "Your kink is not my kink but I respect your right to do it." However that being said kinks involving race have to be seen against the history of racism, colonialism and slavery. That is why white people (and some black people) should understand the arguments on fetishisation and why a load of black people find it uncomfortable and any form of race play deeply disturbing. I am on afrocentric (black people for black people) kink forums that are mainly populated by African-Americans and they have very strong views. Personally I have no racial preferences when it comes to women. I have dated (not just slept with) women who happened to be black, or white or Asian. But fetishisation is a thing and people just need to be aware. | |||
"Theres some really unkind responses on this thread and some really insightful and helpful ones. I feel the OP starter was stirring the shit pan when he started this thread because Interracial attraction/sex/relationships will always be a bone of contention for some. Some will defend it and some wont care. As long as you are going about your business with kindness and respect and love then what more is there to do? I am someone into kink and believe what you do in the privacy of your bedroom or in private is noone's business provided it is not abusive or consensual. On many fronts people are trying to close down the slogan "Your kink is not my kink but I respect your right to do it." However that being said kinks involving race have to be seen against the history of racism, colonialism and slavery. That is why white people (and some black people) should understand the arguments on fetishisation and why a load of black people find it uncomfortable and any form of race play deeply disturbing. I am on afrocentric (black people for black people) kink forums that are mainly populated by African-Americans and they have very strong views. Personally I have no racial preferences when it comes to women. I have dated (not just slept with) women who happened to be black, or white or Asian. But fetishisation is a thing and people just need to be aware. " Thank you, I sometimes struggle to express myself but this puts it beautifully | |||
"Theres some really unkind responses on this thread and some really insightful and helpful ones. I feel the OP starter was stirring the shit pan when he started this thread because Interracial attraction/sex/relationships will always be a bone of contention for some. Some will defend it and some wont care. As long as you are going about your business with kindness and respect and love then what more is there to do? I am someone into kink and believe what you do in the privacy of your bedroom or in private is noone's business provided it is not abusive or consensual. On many fronts people are trying to close down the slogan "Your kink is not my kink but I respect your right to do it." However that being said kinks involving race have to be seen against the history of racism, colonialism and slavery. That is why white people (and some black people) should understand the arguments on fetishisation and why a load of black people find it uncomfortable and any form of race play deeply disturbing. I am on afrocentric (black people for black people) kink forums that are mainly populated by African-Americans and they have very strong views. Personally I have no racial preferences when it comes to women. I have dated (not just slept with) women who happened to be black, or white or Asian. But fetishisation is a thing and people just need to be aware. Thank you, I sometimes struggle to express myself but this puts it beautifully " | |||
"Theres some really unkind responses on this thread and some really insightful and helpful ones. I feel the OP starter was stirring the shit pan when he started this thread because Interracial attraction/sex/relationships will always be a bone of contention for some. Some will defend it and some wont care. As long as you are going about your business with kindness and respect and love then what more is there to do? I am someone into kink and believe what you do in the privacy of your bedroom or in private is noone's business provided it is not abusive or consensual. On many fronts people are trying to close down the slogan "Your kink is not my kink but I respect your right to do it." However that being said kinks involving race have to be seen against the history of racism, colonialism and slavery. That is why white people (and some black people) should understand the arguments on fetishisation and why a load of black people find it uncomfortable and any form of race play deeply disturbing. I am on afrocentric (black people for black people) kink forums that are mainly populated by African-Americans and they have very strong views. Personally I have no racial preferences when it comes to women. I have dated (not just slept with) women who happened to be black, or white or Asian. But fetishisation is a thing and people just need to be aware. " I do agree fetishisation is a thing and people need to be aware, however I don't agree with labelling people when your using it as an attack. People shouldn't have to justify their preferences. Within the confinds of the law, we are allowed to find whatever we like sexy, for whatever reason. | |||
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"Basically here for all the fun without the drama looking for a good laugh socially and naughty fun i will always turn up would be nice to find a regular Fwb x Said the op " Now that is something very special you actually read a profile on fab lol | |||
"Because black men have been fetishised on here and you don't marry your fetish. Thats rude" It’s true though - and fairly abhorrent imo! There’s another thread running entitled ‘Black for white wifes’! Besides the spelling issue - you’re not even referred to as black MEN - just ‘black’! I’ve had countless messages from black guys on here asking if I’m ‘into bbc’ - I reply stating that I’d never meet a guy who thinks that his penis is his most important asset. To be fair it’s not just black guys who are objectified though - you can add larger women, mothers, grandmothers etc etc. In all honesty I find it all fairly distasteful but I’ve come to accept it’s an integral part of the site! Peachy | |||
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"Maybe they adore white men, too, but they've already got one, so...." ... swinging | |||
"I am intrigued why so many women on here adore black fellas but married to a white man" Because they want too! | |||
