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"im asking to be one of the girls, is it possible to become one of the girls, or is it just a hopeless want?" My friends are based on their personalities not their looks! If you're a nice person id be friends with you dressed as a woman or not! Do what makes you happy, find good friends that accept all of you and don't worry about the others!!! | |||
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"I once knew a tv who was treated so badly , that sadly he took his own life......... it was a terrible thing to happen, after all we all deserve some happiness, as my 106 yr old grand mother tells me "don't let the buggars get you down " lol xxx " Love it!!! | |||
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"wife hates me dressing, im disgusting and a freak, so unfortunately its taboo, she took all my male undies away and replaced them with women's which i have to wear all the time and that's all i am allowed in the femme clothing range, but im not complaining, i just wish i could be more open about it, i get 3 hours a day to dress and be alone lol alone, we haven't had sex in over 3 years because it don't do anything for me any more" Oh no, that's really sad!!! I understand that everyone is different but if my husband came home saying he wanted to dress like a female it wouldn't do anything sexually for me personally but I'd embrace it and support him. You need to be who you are, not what society thinks! Have you thought about any form of counselling either yourself or with your wife. Tell me if I'm wrong or going to far but it's coming across as you are both struggling with dealing with the issue at hand!? X | |||
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"wife hates me dressing, im disgusting and a freak, so unfortunately its taboo, she took all my male undies away and replaced them with women's which i have to wear all the time and that's all i am allowed in the femme clothing range, but im not complaining, i just wish i could be more open about it, i get 3 hours a day to dress and be alone lol alone, we haven't had sex in over 3 years because it don't do anything for me any more Oh no, that's really sad!!! I understand that everyone is different but if my husband came home saying he wanted to dress like a female it wouldn't do anything sexually for me personally but I'd embrace it and support him. You need to be who you are, not what society thinks! Have you thought about any form of counselling either yourself or with your wife. Tell me if I'm wrong or going to far but it's coming across as you are both struggling with dealing with the issue at hand!? X" Sorry your wife is so mean. There are more understanding people out there, lots just on this thread. All people get prejudiced against to some extent. Some more than others. Do what makes you feel good but be safe. Xx | |||
"wife hates me dressing, im disgusting and a freak, so unfortunately its taboo, she took all my male undies away and replaced them with women's which i have to wear all the time and that's all i am allowed in the femme clothing range, but im not complaining, i just wish i could be more open about it, i get 3 hours a day to dress and be alone lol alone, we haven't had sex in over 3 years because it don't do anything for me any more Oh no, that's really sad!!! I understand that everyone is different but if my husband came home saying he wanted to dress like a female it wouldn't do anything sexually for me personally but I'd embrace it and support him. You need to be who you are, not what society thinks! Have you thought about any form of counselling either yourself or with your wife. Tell me if I'm wrong or going to far but it's coming across as you are both struggling with dealing with the issue at hand!? X Sorry your wife is so mean. There are more understanding people out there, lots just on this thread. All people get prejudiced against to some extent. Some more than others. Do what makes you feel good but be safe. Xx" She is mean, sorry to say it! She's putting you down | |||
"very well put. but don't you find there is allot of prejudice towards female wannabe's? to be gay, Les, bi, bi curious is widely accepted now in most countries, but for a man to dress as a woman or even want to behave or be a woman is still very widely frowned upon x" As someone else has said, my friends are chosen for being people I get on with and whose company I enjoy. Looks play no part. However, I'd be uncomfortable with you in public if you are a man that just wants to wear women's clothing and not a pre op. I say that as I'm assuming if we were out you'd want to use female toilets and my concern would be people's reaction to you, especially if children are in the toilets alone, if you see what I mean. | |||
"wife hates me dressing, im disgusting and a freak, so unfortunately its taboo, she took all my male undies away and replaced them with women's which i have to wear all the time and that's all i am allowed in the femme clothing range, but im not complaining, i just wish i could be more open about it, i get 3 hours a day to dress and be alone lol alone, we haven't had sex in over 3 years because it don't do anything for me any more Oh no, that's really sad!!! I understand that everyone is different but if my husband came home saying he wanted to dress like a female it wouldn't do anything sexually for me personally but I'd embrace it and support him. You need to be who you are, not what society thinks! Have you thought about any form of counselling either yourself or with your wife. Tell me if I'm wrong or going to far but it's coming across as you are both struggling with dealing with the issue at hand!? X Sorry your wife is so mean. There are more understanding people out there, lots just on this thread. All people get prejudiced against to some extent. Some more than others. Do what makes you feel good but be safe. Xx" Why is his wife mean? If my husband changed the "rules" I wouldn't be happy either. I get the impression she at least tried by allowing female underwear. It's the op that has said he hasn't had sex with his wife in three years as it no longer does it for him, but is on a swinging site...but the wife is mean?!! Come on now! | |||
"Not by me, you be what you like, I treat everybody as individual people. I don't have time for prejudice. Have fun. " ,good luck | |||
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"I am sorry to hear that you are between a rock and a hard place. I can only comment about my own experience. The point you have raised cannot be answered in just a few words. It strikes at the core of you as a person. Your desire not to be 'male' indicates that you reject part of who you are. It is possible that by expressing your female side you may help to come to terms with your true self. However, none of us are fully male or female, apart from gender we are all a mixture of male and female mental and emotional characteristics. It is long and hard road to fully accept all aspects of yourself. I know I have trod that path and am now happy with both sides of me and have very many very supportive friends who like and support me. In my opinion your wife is using your need to dress as a lever to get what she wants - someone she can control. Taking away all your male underwear is 'unusual'. " I have absolutely no idea of where you're coming from. I've never had any problems with concerns over my gender or sexuality so I cannot comment on that aspect. I understand anger and frustration though. Be honest, step back and try and look at this objectively from the information the op has given. If you were his wife and he hadn't made love to you in three years as "you didn't do it for him anymore", yet you allowed him three hours a day to "be himself" as a compromise with nothing in return...how would you react? Personally I think taking his underpants away as very mild. | |||
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" Why is his wife mean? If my husband changed the "rules" I wouldn't be happy either. I get the impression she at least tried by allowing female underwear. It's the op that has said he hasn't had sex with his wife in three years as it no longer does it for him, but is on a swinging site...but the wife is mean?!! Come on now! " My thoughts entirely. Easy to say yes I'm cool with TV's if that is all you have ever known them to be. | |||
"Thoughts about the balance of male and female internal characteristics come from conversations I have had with many close friends both male and female. I only mentioned gender not sexuality. We do not know the whole story. I can fully appreciate the anger and frustration a woman would feel suddenly discovering that her husband wanted to present as female. We are not told whether this was discussed before they got married. The situation between both parties is both difficult and complicated and we only have one side of the story. " I agree, but it doesn't stop people from demonising the wife based on the same information I've read. | |||
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"PS: Am I the only one that finds the ops profile confusing? " A wee tad confusing seeing 'only a girl' 'without one' showing clear pictures of one. | |||
" Why is his wife mean? If my husband changed the "rules" I wouldn't be happy either. I get the impression she at least tried by allowing female underwear. It's the op that has said he hasn't had sex with his wife in three years as it no longer does it for him, but is on a swinging site...but the wife is mean?!! Come on now! " I agree. | |||
"im asking to be one of the girls, is it possible to become one of the girls, or is it just a hopeless want?" No I don't think it's something you should give up on but I can understand that it's hard to find 'girlfriends'. I'm not sure how to advise you to make friends with woman but maybe appraoching someone you think you'd get on with and ask for some tips? Girls just can't resist sharing thier tips and see if you can her to get a whole bunch of her friends togther for a wine and tip sharing evening. | |||
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"wife hates me dressing, im disgusting and a freak, so unfortunately its taboo, she took all my male undies away and replaced them with women's which i have to wear all the time and that's all i am allowed in the femme clothing range, but im not complaining, i just wish i could be more open about it, i get 3 hours a day to dress and be alone lol alone, we haven't had sex in over 3 years because it don't do anything for me any more Oh no, that's really sad!!! I understand that everyone is different but if my husband came home saying he wanted to dress like a female it wouldn't do anything sexually for me personally but I'd embrace it and support him. You need to be who you are, not what society thinks! Have you thought about any form of counselling either yourself or with your wife. Tell me if I'm wrong or going to far but it's coming across as you are both struggling with dealing with the issue at hand!? X Sorry your wife is so mean. There are more understanding people out there, lots just on this thread. All people get prejudiced against to some extent. Some more than others. Do what makes you feel good but be safe. Xx Why is his wife mean? If my husband changed the "rules" I wouldn't be happy either. I get the impression she at least tried by allowing female underwear. It's the op that has said he hasn't had sex with his wife in three years as it no longer does it for him, but is on a swinging site...but the wife is mean?!! Come on now! " I think his wife is mean for calling him disgusting and a freak. No need to call someone that. He is merely expressing himself. Since when does wearing women's clothes or feeling female mean that he is a freak?! (Yes I know some people see it as freakish but hey ho.) Sounds to me like she took his male undies away as some sort of punishment, to try and humiliate him. It took a heck of a lot of guts for him to a) tell his wife and b) post this thread. In response to the comment about blokes wearing women's clothes and going into female toilets- I totally agree, that's absolutely not on. The OP didn't mention that, but someone else did. I think the human rights of kids come far above the human rights of an adult, no matter who they are. Fine to walk down a street but not into a female toilet or female changing rooms, sorry. OP, I hope you find some cool friends that you can hang out with and be yourself with. | |||
"Or a cry for help??? My job doesn't allow me to let people suffer in silence neither does my personality, this person is obviously in a living hell at the moment and just needs tlc from a few random strangers to help restore her faith in human kind!!! Personally I take my hat off to her, it takes balls to live against the norm of society. Not sure I could be so brave?... " | |||
"Or a cry for help??? My job doesn't allow me to let people suffer in silence neither does my personality, this person is obviously in a living hell at the moment and just needs tlc from a few random strangers to help restore her faith in human kind!!! Personally I take my hat off to her, it takes balls to live against the norm of society. Not sure I could be so brave?... " HIM!...this person is male...HE has a penis, HE was born a male. | |||
"wife hates me dressing, im disgusting and a freak, so unfortunately its taboo, she took all my male undies away and replaced them with women's which i have to wear all the time and that's all i am allowed in the femme clothing range, but im not complaining, i just wish i could be more open about it, i get 3 hours a day to dress and be alone lol alone, we haven't had sex in over 3 years because it don't do anything for me any more Oh no, that's really sad!!! I understand that everyone is different but if my husband came home saying he wanted to dress like a female it wouldn't do anything sexually for me personally but I'd embrace it and support him. You need to be who you are, not what society thinks! Have you thought about any form of counselling either yourself or with your wife. Tell me if I'm wrong or going to far but it's coming across as you are both struggling with dealing with the issue at hand!? X Sorry your wife is so mean. There are more understanding people out there, lots just on this thread. All people get prejudiced against to some extent. Some more than others. Do what makes you feel good but be safe. Xx Why is his wife mean? If my husband changed the "rules" I wouldn't be happy either. I get the impression she at least tried by allowing female underwear. It's the op that has said he hasn't had sex with his wife in three years as it no longer does it for him, but is on a swinging site...but the wife is mean?!! Come on now! I think his wife is mean for calling him disgusting and a freak. No need to call someone that. He is merely expressing himself. Since when does wearing women's clothes or feeling female mean that he is a freak?! (Yes I know some people see it as freakish but hey ho.) Sounds to me like she took his male undies away as some sort of punishment, to try and humiliate him. It took a heck of a lot of guts for him to a) tell his wife and b) post this thread. In response to the comment about blokes wearing women's clothes and going into female toilets- I totally agree, that's absolutely not on. The OP didn't mention that, but someone else did. I think the human rights of kids come far above the human rights of an adult, no matter who they are. Fine to walk down a street but not into a female toilet or female changing rooms, sorry. OP, I hope you find some cool friends that you can hang out with and be yourself with. " I think the op is mean, not having sex with his wife in three years as she doesn't do it for him, yet seeking solace on a swinging site. But we all have differing points of view. | |||
" I think the op is mean, not having sex with his wife in three years as she doesn't do it for him, yet seeking solace on a swinging site. But we all have differing points of view." Fair point. | |||
" HIM!...this person is male...HE has a penis, HE was born a male." You don't know the person's genetic makeup, and feel free to dicate to them what their sex and gender are. But the person's gender is assumed female, though she is going through a tough time, and hasn't appeared to make any decisions about reassignment surgery etc. We each make our own decisions about our own gender. | |||
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" I think the op is mean, not having sex with his wife in three years as she doesn't do it for him, yet seeking solace on a swinging site. But we all have differing points of view. Fair point. " But we don't know the reason they don't have sex, it may not be an issue with dressing female she may just no longer be in love with the wife? | |||
" I think the op is mean, not having sex with his wife in three years as she doesn't do it for him, yet seeking solace on a swinging site. But we all have differing points of view. Fair point. But we don't know the reason they don't have sex, it may not be an issue with dressing female she may just no longer be in love with the wife? " Fair point. | |||
" I think the op is mean, not having sex with his wife in three years as she doesn't do it for him, yet seeking solace on a swinging site. But we all have differing points of view. Fair point. But we don't know the reason they don't have sex, it may not be an issue with dressing female she may just no longer be in love with the wife? " I'm going on the same information you have: HIS wife no longer does it for him...the same excuse other cheating husbands use in MY opinion. "Dressing up" is just smoke and mirrors to me. It's a forum, we all have our own interpretation of things. | |||
" I'm going on the same information you have: HIS wife no longer does it for him...the same excuse other cheating husbands use in MY opinion. "Dressing up" is just smoke and mirrors to me. It's a forum, we all have our own interpretation of things." I wouldn't assume that it's always the bloke's fault, it could be the woman's fault. What do you mean smoke and mirrors? | |||
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" I'm going on the same information you have: HIS wife no longer does it for him...the same excuse other cheating husbands use in MY opinion. "Dressing up" is just smoke and mirrors to me. It's a forum, we all have our own interpretation of things. I wouldn't assume that it's always the bloke's fault, it could be the woman's fault. What do you mean smoke and mirrors? " Neither would I but I think "SHE no longer does it for ME" is a bit of a clue don't you think? My wife doesn't understand me, my wife won't dress up for me, my wife won't let me fuck her up the arse, my wife won't let me dress up as a woman...smoke and mirrors, all excuses married men use to be here without their wife's knowledge...in my opinion of course...others are free to differ. | |||
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"Hmmmm well after looking at your initial request for comment and reading many of them I can quite understand your feelings however they are in my opinion due purley to your inability to accept yourself in both roles, this is mainly due, I believe, to a naturally occuring phenomena that all tv,s etc have or at some point will experience it is a feeling of guilt that you may not even notice but it leads to an intense dislike of the male persona eventually reaching the stage you appear to be at now, to be honest if this is the way things have happened transitioning to a woman will not be the way to go, and I would imagine the process which includes many sessions with psycologists would come to this conclusion. As for the relationship and sex thing 'did someone say Smoke and Mirrors' excellent way of putting it i think as underneath all that is the cause and cure of your unhappiness. you really do need to shed that guilt and most of all if you are in a relationship the only way forward is to tell your partner everything I dealt with mine long ago I love to be girly but enjoy my summers usually racing jetskis in a true lad role...buy hey everyone is different and from what Ive seen most have very differing oppinions none of which can be argued as being wrong .... And this is 'Just another opinion' which is going to confuse you even more this is a chat forum, if you are unable to sort things yourself there's lots of places to find a little help ....god knows we all need a little of that S x" What a lovely post. | |||
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"Ahhhh well thats nice to see someone has actually drawn the line....Thank you x " | |||
"Hey who nicked my post .....and why?" If you quoted a post that has been removed then yours would be removed as well | |||
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"Not me! I have had the. First part of my last post removed " There was a rather nasty post that quoted the first part of your last post. Admin has removed it and it's taken that paragraph with it. | |||
"Not me! I have had the. First part of my last post removed There was a rather nasty post that quoted the first part of your last post. Admin has removed it and it's taken that paragraph with it. " Good old admin! | |||
"Not me! I have had the. First part of my last post removed There was a rather nasty post that quoted the first part of your last post. Admin has removed it and it's taken that paragraph with it. " Why what was the post? I haven't put anything nasty on, nor have I put any pics on this forum ????????????? | |||
"Not me! I have had the. First part of my last post removed There was a rather nasty post that quoted the first part of your last post. Admin has removed it and it's taken that paragraph with it. Why what was the post? I haven't put anything nasty on, nor have I put any pics on this forum ?????????????" It wasn't your post. Someone wrote something very nasty and derogatory against you. | |||
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