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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
it is always an interesting topic....
the one thing that puts me off visiting more clubs is that especially if i am travelling, you have to pay both membership and entry upon 1st entry....
absolutely fine if you are going to a club lets say 3-4 times a year..... not so good if you go once in a blue moon, or are going for a special occasion, where you are not likely to use it again.. or if you do then you have to go thru the whole thing again because you haven't been there for so long...
I know chams for example will do a waiver for special occasions (pussy posse ect)... do other clubs do this?
sometimes I feel that people would love to try clubs... but the costs of going 1st time when you may find its not for you can be expensive....
I would love it if the 1st time you went the membership charges would be waived... and then membership would commence upon the 2nd time someone was to go......
not knocking clubs at all... just more of a suggestion that would likely get more people trying them....
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I agree Fabio , there are times where people have been put off coming down to try abfabs because of that reason , would love the option of 'Try before you buy' so to speak. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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quite agree with you here _abio, or if, like one or two clubs we have been to take the membership money but it includes the first visit admission charge (as in pay the membership and free entry on that night) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I agree
I think all clubs shoud let people in first time for just entry fee
I know some clubs do, theres also some club that will let members take in none members as their guests for just entry fee, i think they tend to be the more popular ones tho, ones that dont seem so busy just want to take as much on the door as possible |
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Yeah i think your all right
ive never been to any clubs
but we have chatted a few times about wanting to see what there like with my partner.
I think both of us would pop in for a look atleast if it was cheap/free
say buy a couple of drinks and suss it out weather we would like to go again and possibly join in  |
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I suppose until every town has a club you're always going to have to put up with profiteering.
You see supply and demand forms the basis so it follows that less clubs the more will be charged because they can. No price fixing though please!
I'm still waiting in anticipation for someone to challenge admission charging and the discrimination act 2010.
No these are not private clubs!
It's always a difficult subject but yes after all what special privilege does membership actually give you? So why do you need to pay for a membership?
Not as if you won't be paying on the nights you attend unless you're a single female.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"it is always an interesting topic....
the one thing that puts me off visiting more clubs is that especially if i am travelling, you have to pay both membership and entry upon 1st entry....
absolutely fine if you are going to a club lets say 3-4 times a year..... not so good if you go once in a blue moon, or are going for a special occasion, where you are not likely to use it again.. or if you do then you have to go thru the whole thing again because you haven't been there for so long...
I know chams for example will do a waiver for special occasions (pussy posse ect)... do other clubs do this?
sometimes I feel that people would love to try clubs... but the costs of going 1st time when you may find its not for you can be expensive....
I would love it if the 1st time you went the membership charges would be waived... and then membership would commence upon the 2nd time someone was to go......
not knocking clubs at all... just more of a suggestion that would likely get more people trying them....
and discuss..... "
Weve been to some clubs that are free membership and some you can just attend on the night! however we arent sure if this rule applies to single blokes who do seem to get a hard deal.
Though to be honest i believe clubs do it to stop what is happening on sites likes this, poor singlemen pestering and being a nuisance, if its cost you more you are more likely to behave and not take chance of being thrown out.
As in paying membership on second visit how would the club owners know if you,ve been before or not? too many faces to reconise anyone and always a chance you might be wrong and blame someone for attending before.
As a couple we just pay entry fee which is usually only a little dearer if not a memember.
But they are few clubs we,d like to try and sometimes cost is one aspect why we dont.
But im sure nearly all clubs look after couples on first entry dont they? |
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"I agree Fabio , there are times where people have been put off coming down to try abfabs because of that reason , would love the option of 'Try before you buy' so to speak."
I agree with Fabio too - what a great idea!
On the subject of AbFabs though, people can go there during the day in its 'Kestrels' guise on a day pass. If they did it on a special occasion (such as on Sunday when it was the diamond jubilee), the whole house is open, they lay on a BBQ and you can stay on into the evening at no extra cost. Just an idea  |
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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
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Would be good if single guys could attend clubs for a certain fee without membership providing they are accompanied as the 'guest' of a couple or single female who is already a member, with the existing member being responsible for their behaviour....
If they liked it and wanted to go again on their own then they would have to take out full membership.
But the organised socials/parties are a very good way of having a look at different clubs without the expense of membership. |
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La Chambre in Sheffield have a voucher you can use on your first visit. You do have to go onto their site and log in to the forum to access it (I believe) but it can make your first visit much more pocket friendly.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We agree with Fabio that the membership charge is very prohibitive to most, whether couples or singles, especially first timers wanting to dip their toe in the water.
Why clubs have to have a membership charge instead of 'Pay As You Go' beats us.
If its just for the extra money we think they've got it wrong, as more people would probably go on a pay as you go basis, meaning fuller clubs and more revenue. 
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Some clubs like VA and Libs wave the membership fee on the first visit, so you can see if its for you or not before you join, which seems reasonable. VA also does two price points, one for visitors and one for members, so you just pay slightly higher if your a tourist and only visiting once in a while.
La Chambre use to do a lifetime membership as well as an annual one fee, but now we think its only the annual one. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Some clubs like VA and Libs wave the membership fee on the first visit, so you can see if its for you or not before you join, which seems reasonable. VA also does two price points, one for visitors and one for members, so you just pay slightly higher if your a tourist and only visiting once in a while.
La Chambre use to do a lifetime membership as well as an annual one fee, but now we think its only the annual one. "
I think liberty elite do not wave the membership completely as I'm sure you still have to pay £15 for temporary membership
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By *ansue35Couple
over a year ago
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HI
I can see this for couples, But for single guys if the first visit was free you get loads guys turning up once, been pain in the arse.
But I agree for the single guys that would be gents all night then that does seem unfair.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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LC's did do a lifetime membership, I've paid for 3, a little clause states if you dont visit 3 times in a year then your lifetime membership is no longer valid, so I dont go as often anymore as I always end up redoing a membership and then paying for entry.
Partners, & chams has never charged me a membership & I didnt pay membership when I went to the attic.
I think the membership fees and entry prices for single men are terrible.
Sometimes the single men pay so much money, they seem to think they have paid so need to get something (in kind)and thats just not right,
I agree with others, maybe less membership prices and more people through the doors.
One of the biggest things that put me off, is when you go into a club (or even see a review) and it's the same people, over and over.
Maybe its one of the reasons house parties are now so much more popular  |
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The club local to us has a membership fee but it's not compulsory. You can go as many times as you want without becoming a member, but members get certain benefits - free evenings a couple of times a year, go 5 times get the 6th visit free and that sort of thing.
I think more should do a try before you buy policy, for sure - what about if you're in the area on holiday, for instance, you don't want to join then.. |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
I've attended a few clubs; some are simply rip-offs, getting money off the Single Guys, as they assume they'll pay anyway!
There are others however that are reasonable. The Attic is Derby has no membership fees; it's just a pity I can only get there once in a while.
I appreciate that many of those in the South possibly have higher overheads, but sometimes I feel I am buying the club, rather than paying a fee for just that night! 
Maybe, as part of a sales drive, clubs could offer a free first night; however, in fear of getting loads of guys down for a free night, charge an up front fee. Then if you like the place and decide to join, that fee is taken into account as part of the overall membership costs.
Maybe some clubs could offer discounts for multiple visits; the more often you visit, you earn "points" which you could use against drinks in the Bar opr even accumulate for a free entry one night at the door. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think if clubs want new people through the doors then they should all look at ways of giving an incentive to want to go
I think I looked at abfabs as I want to go,it will work out an expensive night to pay for membership,entrance,travel,drinks ect
I will go at some point but its not high on my list of priorites when I could pay all that out and hate the place
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Fabio is absolutely right.
Some clubs charge £60/£70 for single men!! An absolute rip-off. Any single guy would have to be desperate to pay that much to go to a club. The only place I would consider paying that much would have to be super classy and look like a top class bordello like Fun4Two..
And that's exactly why I don't do the clubs very much.. Clubs take heed!! |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
sjust to clarify what I am saying....
I don't dispute the different pricing, and that isn't the conversation and point I was making...
the thing I was generally questioning was paying both the Membership AND Entry for first Occasion...
such as the example Pinktherapy said where people were on holiday...
and as HPC said.... it came up because of the long weekend I thought "why not?" but after travel costs.. and hotel accomadation, I looked at what they wanted for both membership and entry (of which I would probably only use once) and I couldn't really justify it.... which is a shame.... |
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"sjust to clarify what I am saying....
I don't dispute the different pricing, and that isn't the conversation and point I was making...
the thing I was generally questioning was paying both the Membership AND Entry for first Occasion...
such as the example Pinktherapy said where people were on holiday...
and as HPC said.... it came up because of the long weekend I thought "why not?" but after travel costs.. and hotel accomadation, I looked at what they wanted for both membership and entry (of which I would probably only use once) and I couldn't really justify it.... which is a shame...."
Well until the clubs listen the only answer I can see is to either curb your urges or find a job that pays more....
If people keep paying clubs will keep charging and remember all they are doing is providing venues for people to hopefully satisfy their base desires.... |
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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago
Middlesbrough |
Having just dipped our toes in the club world I have to admit that I'd been thinking about this, especially when I started thinking about a viist to our other local one.
I guess the clubs have overheads and would imagine that a lot of folks visit once (after finding that its not wall to wall sex lol), so there's a need to maximise revenue. A bit like gyms that sign folks up to a year in January knowing only a handful will make it past the end of the month.
Where clubs miss the trick is that they don't reward the regular visitors or provide an incentive to be regular. Our local was £20 membership and £10 in, they have now increased that to £30 and £20, so we don't go as often.
Its a difficult balancing act for clubs as most only have admission and soft drink sales as a source of income, but you cannot feel they are missing a trick. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"HI
I can see this for couples, But for single guys if the first visit was free you get loads guys turning up once, been pain in the arse.
But I agree for the single guys that would be gents all night then that does seem unfair.
Ian"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's still cheaper than golf after you've bought your golf bats, v necked jumpers, green fees and membership. A lot more fun too.
Not sure where I'm going with that analogy but all hobbies cost money I guess. |
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Another thing to bear in mind is that most clubs are not drinks licenced so do not make any profit from bar sales.
In fact ones like AbFabs provided free water/ice/soft drinks/tea/coffee
The high single male charges are an easy way to keep numbers manageable and subsidise the couples. If it were not for the single male fees everybody elses would have to rise. |
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By *andsCouple
over a year ago
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Agree entirely ... we thought about attending our first club on Sat but tbh the price put us off. we would prob attend a clun twice a yr if we were lucky (depending if we liked it obviously) so the cost involved put us off x
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By *andsCouple
over a year ago
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"Agree entirely ... we thought about attending our first club on Sat but tbh the price put us off. we would prob attend a clun twice a yr if we were lucky (depending if we liked it obviously) so the cost involved put us off x
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thats is club not clun lol x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"only thing which has put me off going to a club is the way single guys have to pay more.
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i underdstand what you mean but the simple fact is i wouldnt play the same as guys to get in and nor would lots of women
I mean lets be honest how easy would it be for me to find a single guy to pair up with on here who would pay for my entry if i went in as a couple with him? bloody easy, so if i had to pay £30/£40 entry id just find a single guy and go in as a couple, thing is lots of people who go want single woman, theres lots of couples looking for FFM and lots of men would sooner play with single women than couples, so there for the people going for single female wouldnt find any as all the single woman are now coupled up, its in the clubs interest to keep fees for women down to a minimum to ensure they go in to cater for the people looking for them
When i go to clubs alone i play with single men but the times i have gone in with a guy i havnt as guys dont really take women to clubs to play with other guys they take women so they can find other couples easier, so you'd just be cutting down on the amount of women playing with guys |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Another thing to bear in mind is that most clubs are not drinks licenced so do not make any profit from bar sales.
In fact ones like AbFabs provided free water/ice/soft drinks/tea/coffee
The high single male charges are an easy way to keep numbers manageable and subsidise the couples. If it were not for the single male fees everybody elses would have to rise."
so you are saying keep the prices high for single guys as it keeps the price low for couples????????? |
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"It's still cheaper than golf after you've bought your golf bats, v necked jumpers, green fees and membership. A lot more fun too.
Not sure where I'm going with that analogy but all hobbies cost money I guess. "
no not sure where you are going either! lol
if you can afford to play golf the costs involved swinging are probably your bar bill.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Another thing to bear in mind is that most clubs are not drinks licenced so do not make any profit from bar sales.
In fact ones like AbFabs provided free water/ice/soft drinks/tea/coffee
The high single male charges are an easy way to keep numbers manageable and subsidise the couples. If it were not for the single male fees everybody elses would have to rise.
so you are saying keep the prices high for single guys as it keeps the price low for couples?????????"
sounds like it dont it  |
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"Another thing to bear in mind is that most clubs are not drinks licenced so do not make any profit from bar sales.
In fact ones like AbFabs provided free water/ice/soft drinks/tea/coffee
The high single male charges are an easy way to keep numbers manageable and subsidise the couples. If it were not for the single male fees everybody elses would have to rise."
so lets rip them off! 
tell me why couples need subsidising?
in any club you can only ever have a maximum number to comply with various H&S and licence rules..so not only do guys support the couples and single fems but they cant even visit on a Sat night so are restricted in that too!
what most don't seem to realise that under the 2010 Equality act that what the clubs are doing is illegal and they know only to well that the likely hood of anyone complaining is way to remote so lets carry on..
i in myself continue to pay because should I wish to enjoy the facilities I have to as I'm not going to broadcast in a court room what my 'hobby' is..
still pees me off though! lol
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Interesting, we were just discussing this the other day, we like what The Vanilla Alternative do with their membership. you get 2 free members night a year, £10 off entry every time, plus other members benefits, which is a good reason to become a member, but obviously they also offer a non members rate for entry.
this to me is a good system... offer the members an actual benefit not just access to the club. and also allow people who haven't been before to check out the club before they commit to a membership! |
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No, I was suggesting that is what the club owners are doing! Oh and just so you know I am serious !!!!!!!!!!!!
I did not suggest I supported it.
I do wonder how many of the couples who say it is wrong would be happier to pay higher entry fees to compensate?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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what most don't seem to realise that under the 2010 Equality act that what the clubs are doing is illegal and they know only to well that the likely hood of anyone complaining is way to remote so lets carry on..
i in myself continue to pay because should I wish to enjoy the facilities I have to as I'm not going to broadcast in a court room what my 'hobby' is..
still pees me off though! lol
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Actually what they are doing is not illegal as they are offering an incentive to an under-represented group so the amount of single males vs the amount of single fems and even couples that would want to attend on a single guys night are vastly different.. sooo many more single guys would go if they had to pay £10 like a single fem... and i don't think any single fems would go if they had to pay £35 like couples... so you would have unbalanced numbers and end up with a massive sausagefest... they are legally allowed to offer incentives to gain more people from an under-represented group. |
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what most don't seem to realise that under the 2010 Equality act that what the clubs are doing is illegal and they know only to well that the likely hood of anyone complaining is way to remote so lets carry on..
i in myself continue to pay because should I wish to enjoy the facilities I have to as I'm not going to broadcast in a court room what my 'hobby' is..
still pees me off though! lol
Actually what they are doing is not illegal as they are offering an incentive to an under-represented group so the amount of single males vs the amount of single fems and even couples that would want to attend on a single guys night are vastly different.. sooo many more single guys would go if they had to pay £10 like a single fem... and i don't think any single fems would go if they had to pay £35 like couples... so you would have unbalanced numbers and end up with a massive sausagefest... they are legally allowed to offer incentives to gain more people from an under-represented group."
you misunderstand you cannot differentiate price/entry fee by gender..
they are allowed to offer incentives for a qualified period ie 3 months half price if a gender is under represented this offer must be clearly stated and after that period the fees must revert..
hope that clears that up for you
check out the legislation its easy to find or look it up re golf clubs as they have had the most to loose from a financial perspective..
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Being quite realistic I understand that to sustain themselves clubs need to earn money, lighting, heating, pools, facility's, staffing all cost money and these need to be covered a lot of the time.
However with all of the considered, there is some serious price gouging going on with clubs for first timers.
I loved Adventures because the first visit was free and membership too, this encouraged us to go quite a few more times after the first visit.
The price gouging is not something all clubs do by any means but it is something that MORE clubs seem to be doing AB Fabs charge a "membership" fee of £10 per person on top of the £50 to get on the night and then whatever it costs you to get there (hour + drive) then its a hefty investment.
It also seems again like one of those areas where single guys REALLY get shafted as the prices they pay are for the most part unjustifiable in relation to couples/single females.
In short, some clubs are clearly price gouging (not all do) and single guys are getting the shaft big time from those that do! |
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"No, I was suggesting that is what the club owners are doing! Oh and just so you know I am serious !!!!!!!!!!!!
I did not suggest I supported it.
I do wonder how many of the couples who say it is wrong would be happier to pay higher entry fees to compensate?
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why doe the fees need to be higher?
£15 pounds ahead for everyone..
most couples will generally have 2 incomes..
would you prefer that your weekly shop was cheaper because you're a couple?
should you pay less at your local swimming pool or cinema?
I have to say the argument that it would reduce the amount of single ladies attending clubs doesn't really stack up as you never see an equal number at the moment and thats with getting in for free..
equality is great when your getting it.. lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think what we have to remember is the only reason clubs charge men more is because men will and are playing more and for as long as they keep doing so they clubs will keep charhing it, if every guy on here suddenly said tomorrow....right thats it im not paying them fees anymore and stopped going the clubs would lower the prices to get men back in or go bust....but lets be honest, whats the chances of that happening
They charge women a fiver cause they know women wouldnt pay £30, they charge men £30 cause they know they will, so without wanting to sound unsympathetic whos fault is it really 
Im not saying it right im just living in the real world |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Regarding entrance fees to clubs of any kind - there are still nightclubs that advertise Ladies free and Gents £20 (or more) Really really pees me off. My other half doesn't want to go out sometimes, I won't go out on my own to clubs due to the obvious discrimination. After all the music is the same no matter what gender you are!! As for cheap drinks offers for ladies once in the club and no discount for guys......... grrrrrrrrrrr don't get me going!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I can see all sides of this thread. I'm in business myself as a masseur and I have overheads and need to make my living. As do the clubs, very rarely are people running a service purely out of love.
These guys have pretty stiff, pardon the pun, overheads with light, heat, jacuzzis, water and all the legal stuff like insurance, rates etc.
However, I do agree that flat pricing is more fair, as a single bloke I would feel ripped off by paying more than a couple.
I also agree that they need to balance numbers or as one person said, it becomes a sausage fest! (though there is a certain appeal in there for me) lol
Maybe a pay online system would work upfront?
You pay a price as advertised in advance. That way they can balance the patrons plumbing needs and they can attract more customers. On busy nights they could increase the prices as demand rises and lower it for quiet periods.
Pretty much the same as hotels do with rooms. |
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"why doe the fees need to be higher?"
Based on a recent non weekend club night
Single men 40@£40 = £1600
Couples 20@£25 = £500
Single fem 5@£10 =£50
85 bodies in total
Flat rate fee to give club same income
2150/85 = £25 approx
Or £50 a couple which is what they charge on couples only nights
"£15 pounds ahead for everyone.."
And in my fantasy world all poor people would be given free winning lottery tickets. But in the real world.....
"most couples will generally have 2 incomes.."
Maybe in your experience but not in mine. And those two incomes might be less than one single males with a good job and no family to support
"would you prefer that your weekly shop was cheaper because you're a couple?"
Economies of scale, shopping and eating for two is cheaper than for one. Better use of 241 promotions etc
"should you pay less at your local swimming pool or cinema?"
Couples, families, those on Income support etc do. The principle of differential pricing is well established
"I have to say the argument that it would reduce the amount of single ladies attending clubs doesn't really stack up as you never see an equal number at the moment and thats with getting in for free..
equality is great when your getting it.. lol"
But the arguement does stand because even with such low entrance fees the clubs cannot attract enough single fems to match demand. Without differential pricing they would just pair up before they got to the club and be a couple, taking them out of circulation. All this has been explained already on this thread but somebody doesn't want to hear it.
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
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Why did I know this would end up being in effect hijacked into a discussion about single guy pricing...
Again... Different discussion.. Not the issue I was raising!
What I was raising was the issue that most clubs charge both membership and entry on a 1st visit, of which I am sure does put people off trying clubs... Especially those on the fence and not being sure clubs are for them, or visiting clubs on rare occasions
That is the topic I was raising and that affects everybody! |
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Fabio, apologies for getting sucked in to the highjack. To answer your OP.
Some clubs with good customer demographics and cost bases can and do encourage trial or occasional visits and we ourselves have been grateful for this and been encouraged to do one-off visits.
Perhaps what is needed is newbie friendly specials where clubs can encourage people to come see with the basic attendance price for the day taken off the membership fee for those who decide to join by the end of the day/ within say a week.
If people feel that this would work at a club near them perhaps they need to raise it with the club owners? I think they would love suggestions as to how to boost attendance |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why did I know this would end up being in effect hijacked into a discussion about single guy pricing..."
its hardly a hijack, its called progression of conversation
All because you start a thread you cant stop little branch lines coming out of it if the conversation starts going that way |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think Fabio has a great point on the "trial run" basis, but it's only clubs that need to attract new members that will be interested in listening.
The best way has to be free occasional membership, with a paid membership attracting discount on the entry price that way you cover holiday and trial users, whilst still retaining the "loyalty / regular" benefits of a club membership card.
Personally I think running a club has to be one of the hardest carear choices you can make, one woman will feel threatened if there are two single guys trying to talk to her at the same time, another will feel short changed if there are not 20 queuing. Get the balance wrong and very soon you have an empty club. Differential pricing.... well yeah! nobody except the club owner would be happy at a club with 500 straight guys paying £10 each every friday night, just like everyone else, if NO women turned up |
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We posted a similar topic last year, We have been to about 15 clubs over the years and are paid members of only 3 now, a couple was for anual membership which we have not carried on. There are several clubs we would like to try but the cost of travelling to them then the entry and the membership has put us off. as we travel quite a bit we often only ever visit a club once or twice a year so it is not viable to pay the membership. If we are going somewhere specific we look for the local club and if it is free membership we will give it a try, if it is paid membership we tend to look on here for a local house party or just go out in town on the pull! |
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Like I said I really think some clubs are out to gouge newbies, often to be fair its the ones you will never want to go back to and are often big enough that new business doesnt matter to them.
with these clubs the strongest message you can send is choosing a fairer priced one (there are quite a few) who dont set out to gouge new people.
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"why doe the fees need to be higher?
Based on a recent non weekend club night
Single men 40@£40 = £1600
Couples 20@£25 = £500
Single fem 5@£10 =£50
85 bodies in total
Flat rate fee to give club same income
2150/85 = £25 approx
Or £50 a couple which is what they charge on couples only nights
£15 pounds ahead for everyone..
And in my fantasy world all poor people would be given free winning lottery tickets. But in the real world.....
most couples will generally have 2 incomes..
Maybe in your experience but not in mine. And those two incomes might be less than one single males with a good job and no family to support
would you prefer that your weekly shop was cheaper because you're a couple?
Economies of scale, shopping and eating for two is cheaper than for one. Better use of 241 promotions etc
should you pay less at your local swimming pool or cinema?
Couples, families, those on Income support etc do. The principle of differential pricing is well established
I have to say the argument that it would reduce the amount of single ladies attending clubs doesn't really stack up as you never see an equal number at the moment and thats with getting in for free..
equality is great when your getting it.. lol
But the arguement does stand because even with such low entrance fees the clubs cannot attract enough single fems to match demand. Without differential pricing they would just pair up before they got to the club and be a couple, taking them out of circulation. All this has been explained already on this thread but somebody doesn't want to hear it.
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Oh dear let's start quoting stats shall we!
We all know you can make figures show what you want depending on your point of view.
I did like the 241 and that would work well as you say eating for 2 is cheaper.
Let me see single guy good income No family to support.
Well not in my experience... Friend of mine has been skinned alive by what was the CSA. Still has a mortgage to pay and as you say it's cheaper to shop for 2, 241...
I provide a roof for my son and fund his uni, so in my experience a couple who both work and have decent incomes can afford to pay more.
See how things can be made to look when you have a vested interest in keeping prices low to benefit your self...
I did say generally, of course individuals circumstances can vary.
And if they do you cut your cloth accordingly and as some have said they go where it's best value for them and go less often.
See how clubs are missing a trick here...
People cant just magic more money but if they do have more in the pot they may visit more often if they believe the prices are reasonable.
the clubs revenues will still come in and because it feels like good value people will encourage others to visit and this will possibly increase membership...
I know that every business needs to maximise revenue streams and in any club there's only a maximum number of people can attend at any one time due to fire regs etc so they need to be creative.
But this still doesn't detract from the fact that they should still be charging the same fee rof all Regardless of gender and that's the equality act 2010...
No body likes to think they are being ripped off do they?
I bet you always look for the best deals especially if you're on a tight budget and who isn't at the moment, oh yes I forgot us well paid single males? lol
By the way in May i was made redundant for the 2nd time in 3 years and I'm Not looking for sympathy vote !
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