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Bareback thread ban

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I think fabs should ban threads encouraging bareback.

Yes we are all adults free to make our own choices, but this site should not allow encouragemement or eroticising of disease spreading, because that is exactly what they do. If people did not bareback with strangers then STIs would no longer exist.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Oh and if you are a barebacker, feel free to block me, or voice your opinion clearly here so I can block you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What if you don't bareback but still disagree with the thread

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I use the bareback threads to filter out barebackers, so they have their uses.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Thanks OP. Anything which promotes unsafe life threatening practice should be banned .

Bareback community can create another website and be happy there .

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"What if you don't bareback but still disagree with the thread

Then also vent away. That is what threads are for right?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I use the bareback threads to filter out barebackers, so they have their uses."

Lol , it did increased our block list

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

I dont bareback but it's not illegal and people should be allowed to do so If they choose

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think you're wrong but entitled to your opinion. I have no issues with people discussing things I'm not into. I'm a grown up and don't see the need for censorship of legal things on a site such as this.

And I think you're wrong about STDs not existing if people didn't bareback with strangers.

Apart from that, great thread!

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By *iliciousCouple over a year ago

Sussex/Surrey

"I think fabs should ban threads encouraging bareback.

Difficult. We don’t like bareback swinging and don’t do it, and don’t understand people who do, and get as exasperated as you do about the irresponsibility.

But we don’t like censorship either. And the exchange of ideas and knowledge about others in general in society is a good and precious thing in the age where governments, including our present one, is doing all it can to suppress free speech.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman over a year ago

all loved up

Plus If it were banned you wouldnt have people being aware that some people do. X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah. Fuck letting people make their own calculated choices

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yeah. Fuck letting people make their own calculated choices

Love, someone who only has unprotected sex with her husband

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What if you don't bareback but still disagree with the thread

Then also vent away. That is what threads are for right?"

I don't need to vent per say but I don't think anyone else should have the right to make a decision about how you use your body

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By *adeiteWoman over a year ago

Stafford

They'd also have to ban photos of it

Myself and my husband dont use condoms with each other. But if I wanted to upload a photo of us having sex or a video. That would have to be banned too. When between us its perfectly acceptable and fairly normal.

While I get your view point and do agree that with strangers it shouldn't be encouraged. It will just cause a bit of chaos working out the logistics. Saying some can but some can't.

Live and let live. At the end of the day if you know you use condoms and are safe, don't worry about the others.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yeah. Fuck letting people make their own calculated choices

this.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I dont bareback but it's not illegal and people should be allowed to do so If they choose "

As I said. Do what they want. Fab should not allow encouragement of it though.

They ban us posting meets atm, and rightly so, to stop the spread of a disease. Has it stopped those that want to do it anyway? Nope. However they acted responsible by not facilitating that. They should do the same for unsafe sex. People use bareback threads to find other barebackers, they are also allowed to post it in meets. This is irresponsible. Doctors, health clinics and anyone with common sense would be appalled at how easy it is to find others to share STIs with.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont bareback but it's not illegal and people should be allowed to do so If they choose

As I said. Do what they want. Fab should not allow encouragement of it though.

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Yeah. Fuck letting people make their own calculated choices

Again. It is not about stopping their choice, just about fabs being responsible in what it allows to be encouraged.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I posted a thread about a killer snail. Doesn’t mean fab is encouraging it by allowing me to post the thread...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ironically looking at the BB thread and choosing 6 profiles championing the practice all but one were not meeting due to CV 19.

Unprotected sex is a choice and as consenting adults they are free to make that choice and have every right to express their opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Guess the barebackers don't support the NHS when it comes to sexual practice but their profiles have rainbow

icons . Why ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I dont bareback but it's not illegal and people should be allowed to do so If they choose

As I said. Do what they want. Fab should not allow encouragement of it though.

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?"

Again. It is not about stopping their choice, just about fabs being responsible in what it allows to be encouraged.

I will repeat this over and over till it is understood

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't think fab is encouraging certain behaviours by letting people discuss things. That's a really odd opinion you have there OP.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's a perfectly legal choice for any consenting adult, and a preference for some and not others. You don't have to like or conform to it but you've no right to censor those which do not share your opinions or beliefs.

Can we also ban self righteous users whom are close minded and fascist in the way the expect others to behave and the forum to be managed?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I don't think fab is encouraging certain behaviours by letting people discuss things. That's a really odd opinion you have there OP. "

Fab itself if not encouraging it, but it is allowing it to be encouraged in its threads..... I have seen this many many times

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think you're wrong but entitled to your opinion. I have no issues with people discussing things I'm not into. I'm a grown up and don't see the need for censorship of legal things on a site such as this.

And I think you're wrong about STDs not existing if people didn't bareback with strangers.

Apart from that, great thread!"

this

each to their own.

as others have voiced, just because its something i'm not into, doesn't mean i think those that are should be banned from a swinging site.

consenting adults can make their own choices with regard to a legal practise, let them get on with it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"It's a perfectly legal choice for any consenting adult, and a preference for some and not others. You don't have to like or conform to it but you've no right to censor those which do not share your opinions or beliefs.

Can we also ban self righteous users whom are close minded and fascist in the way the expect others to behave and the forum to be managed?"

Fascist is a strong word to use there.....not one I would just throw around

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

If it was illegal as per statute this thread would be gone or going soon..

It's not and people have the right to discuss it and meet others also of that mind..

Perhaps ignoring the threads that you know your not interested in and concentrate on those you are is the way to go..?

Swinging is also not illegal but some would ban it..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Using the same logic, threads promoting any kind of sex where someone likes to be spanked, whipped, flogged or whatever would have to go too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thanks OP. Anything which promotes unsafe life threatening practice should be banned .

Bareback community can create another website and be happy there .

Or you guys could start "FabSafeSwingers" and be happy there ?

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By *oirinMarkusCouple over a year ago

West Midlands and West London

I think it's far too subjective as most people don't use condoms when in a stable rship. So "barebackers" might just get to that point much quicker than the rest of us!!

But on a serious note, who would decide when the minimum amount of days or meets is before you're going bareback with that person becomes acceptable? Or is it only after a marriage ceremony?

***Not a bsrebacker BTW! I'm personally super risk averse in most ways lol***

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By *mberWoman over a year ago

Preston

I honestly think people should keep their noses out of other people's business.

I don't do bareback, I value my health and the health of the person I'm with. But what others do is not my business and nor is it anyone else's.

If all parties are consenting then crack on. There's plenty of things on here I wouldn't do. Dogging, flashing, 20 person gang bang..... But it's not my business so therefore I don't expect others to stop just because it doesn't suit me.

Why people feel the need to judge I'll never know.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Using the same logic, threads promoting any kind of sex where someone likes to be spanked, whipped, flogged or whatever would have to go too"

Why. Does that spread disease

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not a barebacker but I disagree.

We are all consenting adults and consenting adults will do as they please.

It shouldn’t be banned because some of us find it careless, no sex is risk free.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Thanks OP. Anything which promotes unsafe life threatening practice should be banned .

Bareback community can create another website and be happy there .

Or you guys could start "FabSafeSwingers" and be happy there ? "

Would happily be a m_mber of said site

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?"

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't think fab is encouraging certain behaviours by letting people discuss things. That's a really odd opinion you have there OP.

Fab itself if not encouraging it, but it is allowing it to be encouraged in its threads..... I have seen this many many times"

And who exactly is being encouraged? People either have sex responsibly or not. I'm certainly not going to be encouraged to partake in something just because I read it on a thread!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Using the same logic, threads promoting any kind of sex where someone likes to be spanked, whipped, flogged or whatever would have to go too

Why. Does that spread disease

Intolerance, ignorance and prejudices are as bad as some diseases..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Not a barebacker but I disagree.

We are all consenting adults and consenting adults will do as they please.

It shouldn’t be banned because some of us find it careless, no sex is risk free. "

OP is suggesting to ban the threads encouraging it and not the practice .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Using the same logic, threads promoting any kind of sex where someone likes to be spanked, whipped, flogged or whatever would have to go too

Why. Does that spread disease

One might argue it's promoting violence towards others

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Using the same logic, threads promoting any kind of sex where someone likes to be spanked, whipped, flogged or whatever would have to go too"

Any sex at all in fact since unprotected oral comes with risks, rimming, kissing etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thanks OP. Anything which promotes unsafe life threatening practice should be banned .

Bareback community can create another website and be happy there .

Or you guys could start "FabSafeSwingers" and be happy there ?

Would happily be a m_mber of said site

Let us know when it's up and running

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things . "

Oh. The ignorance!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I much prefer the cheaters thread. You get a classier type of belligerents in that discussion

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By *iliciousCouple over a year ago

Sussex/Surrey

OP how about if some people stopped barebacking as a result of a discussion they took part in here? Would you still think it a good thing to ban the discussion of bare backing?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Using the same logic, threads promoting any kind of sex where someone likes to be spanked, whipped, flogged or whatever would have to go too

Why. Does that spread disease

Intolerance, ignorance and prejudices are as bad as some diseases.. "

Completely missing my point. Anyone who actually knows me would know how extremely open minded I am.

However, not when it comes to spreading a deadly disease....i.e...aids

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By *elshsunsWoman over a year ago

Flintshire

The self righteous let loose again imposing their will on others .... last time I looked I was quite capable of making my own informed choices .... I don’t need others to think for me or to tell me what to do ....

Oh and by the way there is no completely safe sex even wearing a condom does not protect you a 100%

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things . "

Can you point to the reference you are using to say HIV cannot be transmitted orally?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Anyone know how to protect yourself 100%?

Don’t have sex.

Ban all sex asap

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"OP how about if some people stopped barebacking as a result of a discussion they took part in here? Would you still think it a good thing to ban the discussion of bare backing?"

Erm. Yes lol. That would be saving people from disease, thus my point. Of course safe sex should be encouraged

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things .

Oh. The ignorance!!!

It was from a medical point of view .

Apologies if it invalidates your point.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Using the same logic, threads promoting any kind of sex where someone likes to be spanked, whipped, flogged or whatever would have to go too

Why. Does that spread disease

Intolerance, ignorance and prejudices are as bad as some diseases..

Completely missing my point. Anyone who actually knows me would know how extremely open minded I am.

However, not when it comes to spreading a deadly disease....i.e...aids

Sorry but I'm sensing a contradiction..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"The self righteous let loose again imposing their will on others .... last time I looked I was quite capable of making my own informed choices .... I don’t need others to think for me or to tell me what to do ....

Oh and by the way there is no completely safe sex even wearing a condom does not protect you a 100%"

You mean posting my opinion, like you did yours? Why does that make me any different to you? Or is it my opinion must be wrong and yours right?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things . "

You cannot physically see all disease.

You can catch HSV from oral even when the infected person isn’t going through an outbreak.

You can catch chlamydia, syphilis, & gonorrhoea through unprotected oral. Chlamydia risk is low, but it’s still a risk.

Unprotected oral is not risk free, just as bareback sex is not risk free. We are all taking a risk, some more than others.

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By *mberWoman over a year ago

Preston

And for the record.

I have bought a killer snail.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things .

Oh. The ignorance!!!

It was from a medical point of view .

Apologies if it invalidates your point."

Even more scary if you're a medical professional!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"OP how about if some people stopped barebacking as a result of a discussion they took part in here? Would you still think it a good thing to ban the discussion of bare backing?

Erm. Yes lol. That would be saving people from disease, thus my point. Of course safe sex should be encouraged "

No such thing as safe sex. Safer perhaps but all activities of the flesh have some risk attached to them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things .

Can you point to the reference you are using to say HIV cannot be transmitted orally?"

I’d love to see this too.

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By *iliciousCouple over a year ago

Sussex/Surrey

"OP how about if some people stopped barebacking as a result of a discussion they took part in here? Would you still think it a good thing to ban the discussion of bare backing?

Erm. Yes lol. That would be saving people from disease, thus my point. Of course safe sex should be encouraged "

Don’t understand your answer here. I said if someone stopped bare backing as a result of information they obtained by reading a discussion on Fabswingers about it, then would that not be a good thing that the discussion existed?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone know how to protect yourself 100%?

Don’t have sex.

Ban all sex asap"

Have seen a sign for alcoholics

" drink responsibily"

For drivers

" Drive carefully "

For swingers it should be

" Have safe sex "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And for the record.

I have bought a killer snail."

Bugger you stole my line

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things . "

HIV can be passed through oral sex (from NHS website btw).

And no you can't always tell whether someone has an std just by looking at their genitals.

So no, bj and bareback sex are not two different things, both are unsafe sex practice. Even with a condom on you're not 100% safe. So at this point you're trying to silence others for having different risk management to yours.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And for the record.

I have bought a killer snail."

Fuck. I encouraged this!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"And for the record.

I have bought a killer snail.

Fuck. I encouraged this!"

Killer snail on eBay going cheap......

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things .

You cannot physically see all disease.

You can catch HSV from oral even when the infected person isn’t going through an outbreak.

You can catch chlamydia, syphilis, & gonorrhoea through unprotected oral. Chlamydia risk is low, but it’s still a risk.

Unprotected oral is not risk free, just as bareback sex is not risk free. We are all taking a risk, some more than others. "

That's where the hygiene part I mentioned in my first paragraph.

You missed that .

STDs can be passed through oral and I am advocating condoms for oral use too if possible . But they are not life threatening .

Ever heard of Chlamydia conjunctivitis?

Point is ,we know the risks then why propagate it ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone know how to protect yourself 100%?

Don’t have sex.

Ban all sex asap

Have seen a sign for alcoholics

" drink responsibily"

For drivers

" Drive carefully "

For swingers it should be

" Have safe sex " "

Can an alcoholic "drink responsibly" ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No, everyone can do what they want

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"OP how about if some people stopped barebacking as a result of a discussion they took part in here? Would you still think it a good thing to ban the discussion of bare backing?

Erm. Yes lol. That would be saving people from disease, thus my point. Of course safe sex should be encouraged

No such thing as safe sex. Safer perhaps but all activities of the flesh have some risk attached to them."

I think all grown ups here know what the term safe sex means

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But where does Fab draw a line? And how do you propose they do it?

You can't make statements like that without having some kind of MO to it.....

There are many practices that people post about on Fab...

If everyone aired their preference of content then nothing would get posted?

Not sure what you realistically expect Fab to do about it?

They provide a website, with rules... That everyone should abide by.

These people are adults, I would worry less about what others do and worry about you and how you can keep yourself and those you meet safe....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"OP how about if some people stopped barebacking as a result of a discussion they took part in here? Would you still think it a good thing to ban the discussion of bare backing?

Erm. Yes lol. That would be saving people from disease, thus my point. Of course safe sex should be encouraged

No such thing as safe sex. Safer perhaps but all activities of the flesh have some risk attached to them.

I think all grown ups here know what the term safe sex means

Excellent. So no need to ban bareback discussions then?

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By *istressdandsubtCouple over a year ago

caterham

hey why not ban sex all together and just cam everyone , that way we wont spread disease and wont procreate .

look i dont agree with all the threads but i read them as knowledge is a powerful thing , but just because i read it dont mean i will do it ,

but every adult makes their own choice as long as you practice safe sex leave other to their own things , it is good to block off those who dont play safe tho from these threads

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By *mberWoman over a year ago

Preston

"Anyone know how to protect yourself 100%?

Don’t have sex.

Ban all sex asap

Have seen a sign for alcoholics

" drink responsibily"

For drivers

" Drive carefully "

For swingers it should be

" Have safe sex "

Can an alcoholic "drink responsibly" ?"

No they can't. It was a bizarre statement.

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By *odgerMooreMan over a year ago

Nowhere

I had a msgfrom a cpl asking if I’d like to do a fuck and go meet - not really the mills and boon I’ve come on here looking for.... then said she wants it bareback because she wants the risk of pregnancy and loves the Feel of someone coming inside her - by this point I had them classed as mentally ill!! Disease notwithstanding - imagine if she did get pregnant... I’m all for people exercising their right whether it’s bareback or crapping on someones coffee table - if it’s consenting adults and its not illegal. I don’t think threads should be banned - but it does allow the rest of us to make informed decisions I guess.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"But where does Fab draw a line? And how do you propose they do it?

You can't make statements like that without having some kind of MO to it.....

There are many practices that people post about on Fab...

If everyone aired their preference of content then nothing would get posted?

Not sure what you realistically expect Fab to do about it?

They provide a website, with rules... That everyone should abide by.

These people are adults, I would worry less about what others do and worry about you and how you can keep yourself and those you meet safe....

Fab has banned lots of words, I am sure you have all tried to put something at some point and been told it is a banned word. So it would be quite easy to ban the discussion of it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things .

HIV can be passed through oral sex (from NHS website btw).

And no you can't always tell whether someone has an std just by looking at their genitals.

I never denied it , read my post again

HIV passes mainly through blood and bodily fluids (not saliva)

However if you have bleeding gums , rupture in mucus membrane in your mouth and you get in contact with semen from an HIV positive person then YES ,you can acquire the infection.

Oral hygiene is most important here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"hey why not ban sex all together and just cam everyone , that way we wont spread disease and wont procreate .

look i dont agree with all the threads but i read them as knowledge is a powerful thing , but just because i read it dont mean i will do it ,

but every adult makes their own choice as long as you practice safe sex leave other to their own things , it is good to block off those who dont play safe tho from these threads "

We shouldn’t cam or have phone sex. I don’t want hearing aids

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things .

You cannot physically see all disease.

You can catch HSV from oral even when the infected person isn’t going through an outbreak.

You can catch chlamydia, syphilis, & gonorrhoea through unprotected oral. Chlamydia risk is low, but it’s still a risk.

Unprotected oral is not risk free, just as bareback sex is not risk free. We are all taking a risk, some more than others.

That's where the hygiene part I mentioned in my first paragraph.

You missed that .

STDs can be passed through oral and I am advocating condoms for oral use too if possible . But they are not life threatening .

Ever heard of Chlamydia conjunctivitis?

Point is ,we know the risks then why propagate it ? "

Chlamydia CAN be life threatening, it can cause damage to reproductive organs if left untreated, pretty sure it can cause ectopic pregnancies if left untreated also.

You say you’re a medical professional?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"If people did not bareback with strangers then STIs would no longer exist."

STD's can be caught whether you have bareback or safe sex

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By *omerset tvTV/TS over a year ago

Weston-super-Mare

Having sex with a condom is like going to wembley on fa cup final day and sitting in your car in car park outside and watching it on a tv. Its almost as good but not quite a good experience as it could be lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"OP how about if some people stopped barebacking as a result of a discussion they took part in here? Would you still think it a good thing to ban the discussion of bare backing?

Erm. Yes lol. That would be saving people from disease, thus my point. Of course safe sex should be encouraged

No such thing as safe sex. Safer perhaps but all activities of the flesh have some risk attached to them.

I think all grown ups here know what the term safe sex means

Excellent. So no need to ban bareback discussions then?"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things .

You cannot physically see all disease.

You can catch HSV from oral even when the infected person isn’t going through an outbreak.

You can catch chlamydia, syphilis, & gonorrhoea through unprotected oral. Chlamydia risk is low, but it’s still a risk.

Unprotected oral is not risk free, just as bareback sex is not risk free. We are all taking a risk, some more than others.

That's where the hygiene part I mentioned in my first paragraph.

You missed that .

STDs can be passed through oral and I am advocating condoms for oral use too if possible . But they are not life threatening .

Ever heard of Chlamydia conjunctivitis?

Point is ,we know the risks then why propagate it ? "

Oral hygiene doesn't prevent you from catching STDs

If possible? As if there is an option where it's not possible? Don't forget about dental dams.

If you're not using condoms and dental dams everytime you have sex with a stranger that makes you a hypocrite, you realise that right?

And once again HIV can be passed through oral so it very much is life threatening

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No, fab shouldn't ban anything unless its something illegal just because some people don't agree with it.

Should we ban all oral threads if they don't specially state they don't use a condom?

What about watersports, sure its possible to pick up an infection that way, should we ban that too?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone know how to protect yourself 100%?

Don’t have sex.

Ban all sex asap

Have seen a sign for alcoholics

" drink responsibily"

For drivers

" Drive carefully "

For swingers it should be

" Have safe sex "

Can an alcoholic "drink responsibly" ?"

The point here is awareness , you missed it .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If people did not bareback with strangers then STIs would no longer exist.

STD's can be caught whether you have bareback or safe sex"
That is right

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By *aughty_nymphWoman over a year ago

Cheltenham

At least with people who enjoy it openly expressing they do, they don’t need to hide it.

I wouldn’t meet people who do it, my opinion and it’s up to them what they do but the open talking in the forums etc help me to see the people that actively do bareback so I know who to avoid.

If you ban such discussions, you can’t see who is doing it. And the only way to police it properly is have a Fab Approved Chaperone to observe the meet to check condoms are being used

doesn’t sound fun does it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If people did not bareback with strangers then STIs would no longer exist.

STD's can be caught whether you have bareback or safe sex"

What about HIV ? Do u class ur as an STD?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No, fab shouldn't ban anything unless its something illegal just because some people don't agree with it.

Should we ban all oral threads if they don't specially state they don't use a condom?

What about watersports, sure its possible to pick up an infection that way, should we ban that too?"

Extreme exadurations here.

It is very clear what I am saying.

Threads like "bareback wives" where they are openly encouraging the lack of condoms is not something that should be on a swinging site.

IMO.

Like everyone elses opinion on here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No, fab shouldn't ban anything unless its something illegal just because some people don't agree with it.

Should we ban all oral threads if they don't specially state they don't use a condom?

What about watersports, sure its possible to pick up an infection that way, should we ban that too?"

Watersports can be a source of hepatitis infections

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"If people did not bareback with strangers then STIs would no longer exist.

STD's can be caught whether you have bareback or safe sex

What about HIV ? Do u class ur as an STD? "

I was answering the post I quoted.

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By *mberWoman over a year ago

Preston

"No, fab shouldn't ban anything unless its something illegal just because some people don't agree with it.

Should we ban all oral threads if they don't specially state they don't use a condom?

What about watersports, sure its possible to pick up an infection that way, should we ban that too?"

You mean like the thread yesterday promoting flashing.

Which is illegal. Yet I was one of a very small number of people who objected.

Some people have double standards.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"But where does Fab draw a line? And how do you propose they do it?

You can't make statements like that without having some kind of MO to it.....

There are many practices that people post about on Fab...

If everyone aired their preference of content then nothing would get posted?

Not sure what you realistically expect Fab to do about it?

They provide a website, with rules... That everyone should abide by.

These people are adults, I would worry less about what others do and worry about you and how you can keep yourself and those you meet safe....

Fab has banned lots of words, I am sure you have all tried to put something at some point and been told it is a banned word. So it would be quite easy to ban the discussion of it."

Have you discussed your proposal with Admin?? Suggest it see what they say.

Personally I cannot see it working bcause that would make people more creative with it and mod power only goes so far and to moderate that on top of everything else they have to do is just not viable. Especially when mods gove their time freely.

You govern yourself, let other adults do what they do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"If people did not bareback with strangers then STIs would no longer exist.

STD's can be caught whether you have bareback or safe sexThat is right

Well why on earth do condoms exist them. Lets just banish them shall we, lets not reduce the risk by approx 95%. Wow, a mod posting that is shocking.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can we ban threads where the OP know full well they will cause drama resulting in someone being blocked or reported as people express their opinions. In a climate where be kind is encouraged it seems contradictory to post such a thread and then question people's common sense.

Surely the common sense thing to assume is that of course the website encourages both safe sex and kindness therefore does not need to explicitly enforce any further rules. If this was not their intention they would have called it ComegetHIV.com.

I hope everyone is enjoying there extra views and profile traffic from this thread, seems the only positive contribution from it I forsee getting lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No, fab shouldn't ban anything unless its something illegal just because some people don't agree with it.

Should we ban all oral threads if they don't specially state they don't use a condom?

What about watersports, sure its possible to pick up an infection that way, should we ban that too?

Extreme exadurations here.

It is very clear what I am saying.

Threads like "bareback wives" where they are openly encouraging the lack of condoms is not something that should be on a swinging site.

IMO.

Like everyone elses opinion on here"

Not extreme at all, its the same principle. A sex act that can cause infections

If you can catch STI through bareback sex and oral without a condom, then whats the difference? If one is being banned then the other one should as well

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Firstly for any oral play, hygiene is of paramount importance, you can physically see it if a person has a oral or genital hygiene easily .

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

And yes if people using condoms for oral sex then it's good for them too.

If one has bleeding gums, injury where bodily fluids comes in contact with an infected persons fluids then there is a risk of acquiring the virus.

Bareback sex and bj are two different things .

You cannot physically see all disease.

You can catch HSV from oral even when the infected person isn’t going through an outbreak.

You can catch chlamydia, syphilis, & gonorrhoea through unprotected oral. Chlamydia risk is low, but it’s still a risk.

Unprotected oral is not risk free, just as bareback sex is not risk free. We are all taking a risk, some more than others.

That's where the hygiene part I mentioned in my first paragraph.

You missed that .

STDs can be passed through oral and I am advocating condoms for oral use too if possible . But they are not life threatening .

Ever heard of Chlamydia conjunctivitis?

Point is ,we know the risks then why propagate it ?

Oral hygiene doesn't prevent you from catching STDs

If possible? As if there is an option where it's not possible? Don't forget about dental dams.

If you're not using condoms and dental dams everytime you have sex with a stranger that makes you a hypocrite, you realise that right?

And once again HIV can be passed through oral so it very much is life threatening"

You don't need to rebutt point by point.

Oral sex is not as lethal or dangerous as unprotected sex.

We have treatment for STDs and not for a full blown AIDS which could be prevented easily if you are practicing safe sex .

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

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By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Horsham

"I dont bareback but it's not illegal and people should be allowed to do so If they choose

As I said. Do what they want. Fab should not allow encouragement of it though.

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?"

Oral sex just got a whole lot more interesting as well.

HPV is the most common sexually transmitted infection in the United States. Of the more than 100 types of HPV, about 40 types can spread through direct sexual contact to genital areas, as well as the mouth and throat. Oral HPV is transmitted to the mouth by oral sex, or possibly in other ways. Many people are exposed to oral HPV in their life. About 10% of men and 3.6% of women have oral HPV, and oral HPV infection is more common with older age. Most people clear HPV within one to two years, but HPV infection persists in some people.

HPV can infect the mouth and throat and cause cancers of the oropharynx (back of the throat, including the base of the tongue and tonsils). This is called oropharyngeal cancer. HPV is thought to cause 70% of oropharyngeal cancers in the United States.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"hey why not ban sex all together and just cam everyone , that way we wont spread disease and wont procreate .

look i dont agree with all the threads but i read them as knowledge is a powerful thing , but just because i read it dont mean i will do it ,

but every adult makes their own choice as long as you practice safe sex leave other to their own things , it is good to block off those who dont play safe tho from these threads

We shouldn’t cam or have phone sex. I don’t want hearing aids"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can we also ban self righteous users whom are close minded and fascist in the way the expect others to behave and the forum to be managed?"

Jessica.

I've seen it all now with this thread. What else can we ban OP? How about swinging and sex clubs as they're immoral according to lots of vanilla people?

If people prefer BB sex then let them enjoy it. There are risks but when I leave the house today I'm taking a risk crossing a road, walking or driving across a user worked railway level crossing etc etc. Risks can be managed and minimised.

It's disingenuous to consenting adults on here to see posts like this. You don't like it, fair enough. But calling on fab to ban something which is perfectly legal is like being part of Nazi Germany.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Using the same logic, threads promoting any kind of sex where someone likes to be spanked, whipped, flogged or whatever would have to go too"

They do go.....

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"No, fab shouldn't ban anything unless its something illegal just because some people don't agree with it.

Should we ban all oral threads if they don't specially state they don't use a condom?

What about watersports, sure its possible to pick up an infection that way, should we ban that too?

Extreme exadurations here.

It is very clear what I am saying.

Threads like "bareback wives" where they are openly encouraging the lack of condoms is not something that should be on a swinging site.

IMO.

Like everyone elses opinion on here"

If those on such threads were saying to others don't use condoms then I can see why you would not agree as would others..

But they are not saying that, they are stating what they like which does not appeal to others..

But that's their choice..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No, fab shouldn't ban anything unless its something illegal just because some people don't agree with it.

Should we ban all oral threads if they don't specially state they don't use a condom?

What about watersports, sure its possible to pick up an infection that way, should we ban that too?

Watersports can be a source of hepatitis infections "

And Chlamydia conjunctivitis if the giver is infected with it .

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"If people did not bareback with strangers then STIs would no longer exist.

STD's can be caught whether you have bareback or safe sexThat is right

Well why on earth do condoms exist them. Lets just banish them shall we, lets not reduce the risk by approx 95%. Wow, a mod posting that is shocking."

They are not 100% effective and never have been. You thinking that you can only get an STD if you have sex bare back is very worrying

A mod or m_mber pointing this out is not against any rules

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No, fab shouldn't ban anything unless its something illegal just because some people don't agree with it.

Should we ban all oral threads if they don't specially state they don't use a condom?

What about watersports, sure its possible to pick up an infection that way, should we ban that too?

You mean like the thread yesterday promoting flashing.

Which is illegal. Yet I was one of a very small number of people who objected.

Some people have double standards."

I always object to those threads. Had a few lovely messages because of it

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Can we ban threads where the OP know full well they will cause drama resulting in someone being blocked or reported as people express their opinions. In a climate where be kind is encouraged it seems contradictory to post such a thread and then question people's common sense.

I hope everyone is enjoying there extra views and profile traffic from this thread, seems the only positive contribution from it I forsee getting lol."

A debate.... not drama.

Reading others opinions on the matter.

So far there has only been 2 others who have debated healthily on here. I have not insulted anyone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If people did not bareback with strangers then STIs would no longer exist.

STD's can be caught whether you have bareback or safe sexThat is right

Well why on earth do condoms exist them. Lets just banish them shall we, lets not reduce the risk by approx 95%. Wow, a mod posting that is shocking."

To reduce the risk of STDs and pregnancy.

You've started a discussion and people are voicing their opinion, you can't be mad at that just because they have a valid point.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

"Can we ban threads where the OP know full well they will cause drama resulting in someone being blocked or reported as people express their opinions.."

To get pedantic, you would only get banned if YOU posted something that broke rules and not because someone made you type it

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By *odgerMooreMan over a year ago

Nowhere

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you? "

This!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Allright then , so medical professionals shouldn't use gloves ,masks ,sterile needles and other equipments to treat their patients.

Double standards I guess then.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Depends how you go about bareback really to decide whether its risky or not. It's the way I enjoy having sex, and will continue to do so, also having maintained an impeccable clean testing regime. Medical professionals are the worst for the whole bareback thing in my opinion, they give you a quick look over and a sniff and say yeah you're fine and away they go

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you? "

And then guidelines are for whose benefit?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you? "

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Depends how you go about bareback really to decide whether its risky or not. It's the way I enjoy having sex, and will continue to do so, also having maintained an impeccable clean testing regime. Medical professionals are the worst for the whole bareback thing in my opinion, they give you a quick look over and a sniff and say yeah you're fine and away they go

Because medical professionals know that people deliberately put their health at risks ,which put burden on them .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think these kind of threads could do with a condom.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

And then guidelines are for whose benefit?

Mostly the vulnerable with underlying conditions and to stop the NHS being overwhelmed is my understanding. I may be wrong.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases "

One is more dangerous than other

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Both dangerous, just one is much more easily caught than the other. But thats a conversation for another thread i think

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because medical professionals know that people deliberately put their health at risks ,which put burden on them .

I meant right before they have bare sex with you

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Both dangerous, just one is much more easily caught than the other. But thats a conversation for another thread i think"

You mean, you can only greatly reduce getting the more deadly one if you use condoms..... well look, back to square one and the point to start with

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think these kind of threads could do with a condom.

Amongst this a bit of humour....

Thank you

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By *perfectpair5050Couple over a year ago

marlbourgh

I don’t think people need you telling them what they can and can’t do People on this site make their own choices on how they want to play maybe it’s you that’s on the wrong site STDs can be past on with or without a condom

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I don’t think people need you telling them what they can and can’t do People on this site make their own choices on how they want to play maybe it’s you that’s on the wrong site STDs can be past on with or without a condom "

Please read all the comments first

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I kinda agree with you in a sense OP, I'll start by saying that I don't do bareback (BJ's or sex) and I avoid those that openly state they have BB sex.

I don't think fab should condone bareback sex, but there's a difference between condoning or encouraging and allowing a simple discussion.

I do think people should be allowed to discuss it because 1) those threads act as a great block list for those of us who aren't into that, and 2) it might inform someone who was previously unsure about whether they'd do it, and encourage them to use protection which can only be a good thing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Correct. You’re currently at higher risk of catching COVID than you are HIV.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Correct. You’re currently at higher risk of catching COVID than you are HIV. "

Point was you are at higher risk of having HIV unless you are using a condom.

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Both dangerous, just one is much more easily caught than the other. But thats a conversation for another thread i think

You mean, you can only greatly reduce getting the more deadly one if you use condoms..... well look, back to square one and the point to start with"

Nobody arguing against you disagrees with practicing safer sex. It's your opinion that people shouldn't be allowed to openly discuss certain topics that people (I) have issue with.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh and if you are a barebacker, feel free to block me, or voice your opinion clearly here so I can block you

I don’t BB with casual meets but do disagree with trying to ban people or try to coerce others into banning what other people do or enjoy.

So blocked as requested

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Ok.

So, I put my opinion on here, have not insulted anyone directly, yet have been accused of being a fascist, a nazi, self rightious etc etc.

Please, if you must resort to insults to make your point, do not bother, it is at that point I switch off and move to the next comment.

I am open to a healthy debate, but there is never a need to be nasty on here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Correct. You’re currently at higher risk of catching COVID than you are HIV.

Point was you are at higher risk of having HIV unless you are using a condom.

Thanks "

Of course you are. But condoms are not 100% effective.

The best way to vastly reduced your risk of HIV is to not have sex at all.

If anything at this point in time you’re more likely to die from COVID than you are HIV. That’s not to say people shouldn’t use protection, but those who don’t want to aren’t suddenly going to start because of this thread or because someone tells them to.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Both dangerous, just one is much more easily caught than the other. But thats a conversation for another thread i think

You mean, you can only greatly reduce getting the more deadly one if you use condoms..... well look, back to square one and the point to start with"

Is HIV still the more deadly disease? There are drugs that people with HIV can take and still live full lives. No such thing for coronovirus. But thats not the point.

The original point I was making is that fab shouldn't be dictating what people can say or not say, meet or not meet. Its upto the adult to do that. As long as its nothing illegal like involving children or animals then let them get on with it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I kinda agree with you in a sense OP, I'll start by saying that I don't do bareback (BJ's or sex) and I avoid those that openly state they have BB sex.

I don't think fab should condone bareback sex, but there's a difference between condoning or encouraging and allowing a simple discussion.

Thank you lola. A good example on how to debate/state your opinion, without becoming nasty and name throwing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ok.

So, I put my opinion on here, have not insulted anyone directly, yet have been accused of being a fascist, a nazi, self rightious etc etc.

Please, if you must resort to insults to make your point, do not bother, it is at that point I switch off and move to the next comment.

I am open to a healthy debate, but there is never a need to be nasty on here."

This.

I'm surprised at how much hate this has gotten, sorry OP, you shouldn't have to deal with that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP, are you now dictating how people should comment on a thread?

For the record I haven't insulted anyone either yet I disagree wholeheartedly with your opinion so assume I don't get a gold star award

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Ok.

So, I put my opinion on here, have not insulted anyone directly, yet have been accused of being a fascist, a nazi, self rightious etc etc.

Please, if you must resort to insults to make your point, do not bother, it is at that point I switch off and move to the next comment.

I am open to a healthy debate, but there is never a need to be nasty on here."

Your arguing to prevent people from posting bareback threads and we're arguing that we shouldn't restrict their liberties.

In which case it's just a matter of personal opinion like it always was

I can't really see much room for a debate there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This thread is yet another judgmental rant

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Correct. You’re currently at higher risk of catching COVID than you are HIV.

Point was you are at higher risk of having HIV unless you are using a condom.

Thanks

Of course you are. But condoms are not 100% effective.

The best way to vastly reduced your risk of HIV is to not have sex at all.

Lol

So you don't have any solution here in this thread ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Correct. You’re currently at higher risk of catching COVID than you are HIV.

Point was you are at higher risk of having HIV unless you are using a condom.

Thanks

Of course you are. But condoms are not 100% effective.

The best way to vastly reduced your risk of HIV is to not have sex at all.

Lol

So you don't have any solution here in this thread ?

Yes, there’s a solution.

I worry about my life and health and those around me, and others do the same. We’re all adults who make our own informed choices and that should be respected or at least accepted.

What’s your solution?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Ok.

So, I put my opinion on here, have not insulted anyone directly, yet have been accused of being a fascist, a nazi, self rightious etc etc.

Please, if you must resort to insults to make your point, do not bother, it is at that point I switch off and move to the next comment.

I am open to a healthy debate, but there is never a need to be nasty on here.

Your arguing to prevent people from posting bareback threads and we're arguing that we shouldn't restrict their liberties.

In which case it's just a matter of personal opinion like it always was

I can't really see much room for a debate there."

As stated, some have used direct insults to get their point across. There was no need.

The way people have gone on you would think I said to burn all barebackers at the stake lol.

I have read the good arguments, I can see from both sides from those who conducted themselfs a little better.

I still would not be sad in the slightest if they stopped barebacking threads though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone know how to protect yourself 100%?

Don’t have sex.

Ban all sex asap

Have seen a sign for alcoholics

" drink responsibily"

For drivers

" Drive carefully "

For swingers it should be

" Have safe sex "

Can an alcoholic "drink responsibly" ?

The point here is awareness , you missed it ."

Much like my question then....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You clearly need to do your research... And is HIV the only STD you are bothered about? Are you ok catching one that a condom, close inspection and evidence of immaculate genital hygiene won't stop? I don't bb but I like to see who does, it's a good filter option... And if they are ok with it, they are grown ups... The same as you are and can choose to not have sex with strangers to protect yourself.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Correct. You’re currently at higher risk of catching COVID than you are HIV.

Point was you are at higher risk of having HIV unless you are using a condom.

Thanks

Of course you are. But condoms are not 100% effective.

The best way to vastly reduced your risk of HIV is to not have sex at all.

Lol

So you don't have any solution here in this thread ?

Yes, there’s a solution.

I worry about my life and health and those around me, and others do the same. We’re all adults who make our own informed choices and that should be respected or at least accepted.

What’s your solution?"

Check the first post of OP

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By *eoeclipseWoman over a year ago

glasgow

At what point do you think it is appropriate to ban things just cos you don't like it?

I don't like any aspect of anal, let's ban photos & any reference to it.

We are already policed in many aspects, especially now so the question would then become how policed do you want to be?

Do you want to ask approval from an external source before you meet? Or how about before you have sex?

Don't be silly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Surely if you came on a bare back then you could just wipe it off. Unless it was one of those hairy Robin Williams type backs where it would all get matted. You could I suppose cum over a bear's back but I think he might get grizzly.

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By *ob jonesMan over a year ago

Wales

I'm not into bearback sex with random to be honest. But if people wanna chat about it that's fine. Just because the op does not like it it shouldn't not be banned

I don't like tattoos or Watersports does that mean they should be banned.

If you see a thread titled bearback and you don't like it... Shut up and move on to the next one

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Surely if you came on a bare back then you could just wipe it off. Unless it was one of those hairy Robin Williams type backs where it would all get matted. You could I suppose cum over a bear's back but I think he might get grizzly."

Haha, reply of the week

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"At what point do you think it is appropriate to ban things just cos you don't like it?

I don't like any aspect of anal, let's ban photos & any reference to it.

We are already policed in many aspects, especially now so the question would then become how policed do you want to be?

Do you want to ask approval from an external source before you meet? Or how about before you have sex?

Don't be silly. "

Because I dont like it, or because it is known to spread diseases. There is a difference lol.

Another exadurated response without a decent argument against it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I am out now anyway.

Posting an opinion on here that some disagree on got a shit ton more responses than any other fun thread I have posted.

Goes to show people love to hate on others more than have fun.

I have not hated on anyone personally but recieved a fair amount

Continue to throw insults in my absence but I shall not be reading them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am out now anyway.

Posting an opinion on here that some disagree on got a shit ton more responses than any other fun thread I have posted.

Goes to show people love to hate on others more than have fun.

I have not hated on anyone personally but recieved a fair amount

Continue to throw insults in my absence but I shall not be reading them."

I don’t think anyone is hating on you. They’re disagreeing with you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If people did not bareback with strangers then STIs would no longer exist.

STD's can be caught whether you have bareback or safe sex"

It's shocking how many people think condoms make it 'safe'.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes, in many ways It should be similar to their policy on covid. The site’s policy is pretty inconsistent on many things and borders on hypocrisy really. You can’t show water sports but you’re free to recklessly spread diseases lol.

Of course there are many who no doubt deny the existence of sti’s and it will likely be that they are a conspiracy by the new world order or something.

We all now bareback is far sexier and great fun but as you say it should not be encouraged in promiscuous recreational sex. So yes, a big lack of responsible behaviour from fab.

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By *on a MangerMan over a year ago

somerset/Bristol

Whether you agree or not. It would be wrong to ban bareback and the topic from Fab. To debate something you need two sides to the argument so a measured choice can be made. Just insisting on only one side is a little tyranical and dictatorial.

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By *ecretlivesCouple over a year ago

FABWatch HQ

Divide and conquer.

If it is not illegal or portraying something illegal (even amongst consenting adults) then I would hope that Fab, of ALL the communities, would be accepting of it. Opinions are not facts, and suggesting regulations based around personal preferences is a common sign of intolerance. However this IS a forum for discussion, an Op puts it out to do that

Does it actually stimulate proper discussion? Possibly not. When people go "Add to block listHaha" and even some of those who defend it feel they have to say "..of course I don't do it" for fear of retribution.

Ironically the disease (STI, or otherwise) is the issue, not being bareback...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am out now anyway.

Posting an opinion on here that some disagree on got a shit ton more responses than any other fun thread I have posted.

Goes to show people love to hate on others more than have fun.

I have not hated on anyone personally but recieved a fair amount

Continue to throw insults in my absence but I shall not be reading them.

I don’t think anyone is hating on you. They’re disagreeing with you. "

There were a couple of comments with name calling to be fair to OP, and it's a shame she's focused on those.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well said. No wonder you’re a good friend of ours .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If people did not bareback with strangers then STIs would no longer exist.

STD's can be caught whether you have bareback or safe sexThat is right

Well why on earth do condoms exist them. Lets just banish them shall we, lets not reduce the risk by approx 95%. Wow, a mod posting that is shocking.

To reduce the risk of STDs and pregnancy.

You've started a discussion and people are voicing their opinion, you can't be mad at that just because they have a valid point."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes, in many ways It should be similar to their policy on covid. The site’s policy is pretty inconsistent on many things and borders on hypocrisy really. You can’t show water sports but you’re free to recklessly spread diseases lol.

Of course there are many who no doubt deny the existence of sti’s and it will likely be that they are a conspiracy by the new world order or something.

We all now bareback is far sexier and great fun but as you say it should not be encouraged in promiscuous recreational sex. So yes, a big lack of responsible behaviour from fab. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They’ve banned plenty of other things that are neither, illegal or represent a risk to general health.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Correct. You’re currently at higher risk of catching COVID than you are HIV.

Point was you are at higher risk of having HIV unless you are using a condom.

Thanks

Of course you are. But condoms are not 100% effective.

The best way to vastly reduced your risk of HIV is to not have sex at all.

Lol

So you don't have any solution here in this thread ?

Yes, there’s a solution.

I worry about my life and health and those around me, and others do the same. We’re all adults who make our own informed choices and that should be respected or at least accepted.

What’s your solution?

Check the first post of OP"

That’s your solution? Ban bareback threads and send barebackers under the radar so we won’t know who is & isn’t doing it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am out now anyway.

Posting an opinion on here that some disagree on got a shit ton more responses than any other fun thread I have posted.

Goes to show people love to hate on others more than have fun.

I have not hated on anyone personally but recieved a fair amount

Continue to throw insults in my absence but I shall not be reading them."

If anything it goes to show how ridiculous it would be to ban threads we don’t like.

I don’t see much insults, I see debate.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It’s nice to see intelligent posts like yours. X

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

The way people have gone on you would think I said to burn all barebackers at the stake lol.

I have read the good arguments, I can see from both sides from those who conducted themselfs a little better.

To be fair you didn't, you ranted and sounded really angry at anyone answering you.

I will go over the thread again and see if anyone insulted you or called you names as I may have missed it, but from what I did see, people answered you with their view, you just didn't like the answers, including my polite one

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

You do realise that people who are following government guidance on social distancing for covid19 aren't necessarily doing it because they're shit scared of catching the virus don't you?

Exactly this

The difference between HIV and Covid is that you can't catch HIV by simply speaking to someone near you

Two different diseases

One is more dangerous than other

Correct. You’re currently at higher risk of catching COVID than you are HIV.

Point was you are at higher risk of having HIV unless you are using a condom.

Thanks

Of course you are. But condoms are not 100% effective.

The best way to vastly reduced your risk of HIV is to not have sex at all.

Lol

So you don't have any solution here in this thread ?

Yes, there’s a solution.

I worry about my life and health and those around me, and others do the same. We’re all adults who make our own informed choices and that should be respected or at least accepted.

What’s your solution?

Check the first post of OP

That’s your solution? Ban bareback threads and send barebackers under the radar so we won’t know who is & isn’t doing it?"

To be fair , I don't advocate ban but the other part of the post which is " shouldn't be encouraged "

We all love bareback sex but with only your life partner in a steady relationship and not with strangers to get the kink of it.

What OP wants to convey really is to generate a debate where we shouldn't be seen encouraging a practice which can be dangerous to people, their loved ones and the community.

We can only create awareness and not enforce it .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Continue to throw insults in my absence but I shall not be reading them."

Put up contentious post like you did you can expect some blowback. If you can't take the heat from it maybe you should keep your views to yourself??

I don't agree with your views but debate is often welcome. But when it comes to bb threads the views of the holy police are a tad extreme in my opinion. Let people enjoy what they enjoy.

Oh and for the record I didn't call you a Nazi personally. What I said you were proposing was comparable to Nazi Germany in creating a dictatorship on fab. There is a difference.

Enjoy the cool down as I assume you won't see my post .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ivy, what you are suggesting here is unethical censorship based on personal opinion, rather than allowing those their (legal) freedom to conduct themselves as they wish with others that agree to conduct themselves the same way. Please understand the role of forced censorship in authoritarianism.

Everything in life is risk management. Safe swinging is also dangerous relative to monogamy, which is dangerous compared to abstinence. Oral carries risks, anal, going to clubs, gangbangs, meeting a stranger off here that might kill you with an axe.

I do agree with you that bareback carries greater risk, it shouldn't be endorsed as safe when it's not, and people should be educated of the risks. But to ban discussion is both unethical and actually illegal. As long as all parties involved understand and consent then it up to them.

Hiding it or lying about it is a different story.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The way people have gone on you would think I said to burn all barebackers at the stake lol.

I have read the good arguments, I can see from both sides from those who conducted themselfs a little better.

To be fair you didn't, you ranted and sounded really angry at anyone answering you.

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By *ndy58Man over a year ago

Birmingham

I bareback with people who want to do that, and I don't with people that don't want to. In the first case both parties have made their own decision on the risks. I mitigate the risk by having regular STI tests(my latest kit arrived in the post this morning).

If the OP doesn't want to contribute to threads featuring bareback (despite the hypocrisy of starting one in the first place!) then nobody will argue with that, but seeking to restrict free speech regarding an entirely legal activity (and indeed entirely necessary unless you advocate that the human race should die out) is going to far, and I would argue is a much more dangerous threat to society than talking about sex without a condom.

The site could help by including baraback as a search option (as is the case on FG) and also improving the search functionality by allowing the exclusion of profiles that feature a particular option.

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By *mokes n MirrorsCouple over a year ago

Plymouth and Newcastle (sometimes)

"I dont bareback but it's not illegal and people should be allowed to do so If they choose

As I said. Do what they want. Fab should not allow encouragement of it though.

What about oral sex then? Do you use condoms and dental dams?

Again. It is not about stopping their choice, just about fabs being responsible in what it allows to be encouraged.

I will repeat this over and over till it is understood

Are you also going to ban smokers as we all know how bad for your health that is...and what about all the 'hangover horn' posters as yet again, we all know the costs to our health from over indulging on the drink. Oh, and while we're on the subject of over indulging, why don't we kick off all the obese folks who are here as we all know the pressures they put on the NHS by being selfish and only thinking of themselves or maybe you just let people run their profiles as they see fit, say the things they want to say on the threads they want to post on and you use that as a filter instead. Live and let live has always worked well for me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Havent read any positive benefits or bb sex till now .

Guess that sums it all

Banning would be cruel and far fetched but it shouldn't be encouraged either .

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By *hestercplCouple over a year ago

chester

What I think is wrong is there isn’t a option button for people who want bareback it not our thing but just because people like bareback doesn’t mean that want to play bareback with everybody either. What Is hypocritical is that fab guys offers these options and fabswingers doesn’t!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

Jesus christ.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" .

Hypocrisy is of all those people who have " No meets until Covid19" on their profiles but ok with bareback sex .

If you are shit scared of Corona Virus then why aren't you with HIV?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What I think is wrong is there isn’t a option button for people who want bareback it not our thing but just because people like bareback doesn’t mean that want to play bareback with everybody either. What Is hypocritical is that fab guys offers these options and fabswingers doesn’t! "

Just like " Won't meet Smokers " option

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

Can we ban judgemental singletons as well?

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By *ecretlivesCouple over a year ago

FABWatch HQ

"Jesus christ.

He may have been a fan of bareback, hard to say, Catholics certainly are...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think there should be more options on your account/profile.

1 pitchforks

2 lantern

3 scythes

4 wheat flail

5 hedging blades

6 burning torches

Anymore?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

Secondly , HIV is not passed via mouth.

. "

It can be in certain situations

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I bareback with people who want to do that, and I don't with people that don't want to. In the first case both parties have made their own decision on the risks. I mitigate the risk by having regular STI tests(my latest kit arrived in the post this morning).

The site could help by including baraback as a search option (as is the case on FG) and also improving the search functionality by allowing the exclusion of profiles that feature a particular option. "

Excellent post. I do agree a bareback option/interest would help parties on both sides of the debate to find or to avoid, and either is a valid choice. It's been suggested many times already, inc by me.

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