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Why do gay/bi men hide their sexuality

By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

I am a full straight man and recently I noticed a single Male profile fabbed my cock pics. I wondered why a straight guy would fab about 3 of my cock pics so I enquired further. I looked at his verification and saw he had been meeting gay men and TV,s for sex.infact 90 percent of his veri were from guys or TV,s. His profile never said nothing about being gay or bi instead his profile depicts being straight. I had to write to him to enquire why he has to hide his sexuality but he just read n deleted my message.my point is why do gay/bi men do it. I believe in live n let live. If that's what u into good for you but why hide. Why pretend.. I wouldn't think of putting gay on my profile knowing I am straight. If u have a problem with being gay or u think it's wrong why do it then?? Be yr self is what I am saying in essence. What do you think or was I being out of order with my reply to him??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

this does my head in to.why cant they be up front about wether they are gay or bi? My ex was gay and unfortunatly hid it from me. It ended the marriage when i found out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because there is wide spread discrimination toward bi men both on and off the scene

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am a full straight man and recently I noticed a single Male profile fabbed my cock pics. I wondered why a straight guy would fab about 3 of my cock pics so I enquired further. I looked at his verification and saw he had been meeting gay men and TV,s for sex.infact 90 percent of his veri were from guys or TV,s. His profile never said nothing about being gay or bi instead his profile depicts being straight. I had to write to him to enquire why he has to hide his sexuality but he just read n deleted my message.my point is why do gay/bi men do it. I believe in live n let live. If that's what u into good for you but why hide. Why pretend.. I wouldn't think of putting gay on my profile knowing I am straight. If u have a problem with being gay or u think it's wrong why do it then?? Be yr self is what I am saying in essence. What do you think or was I being out of order with my reply to him??"
op why then have you blocked woman.i coudnt message you.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"this does my head in to.why cant they be up front about wether they are gay or bi? My ex was gay and unfortunatly hid it from me. It ended the marriage when i found out."

Exactly my point.. I just wanna know why they hide it.. it's mostly men.. most bi women say they bi outright.. i don't get it...

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I am a full straight man and recently I noticed a single Male profile fabbed my cock pics. I wondered why a straight guy would fab about 3 of my cock pics so I enquired further. I looked at his verification and saw he had been meeting gay men and TV,s for sex.infact 90 percent of his veri were from guys or TV,s. His profile never said nothing about being gay or bi instead his profile depicts being straight. I had to write to him to enquire why he has to hide his sexuality but he just read n deleted my message.my point is why do gay/bi men do it. I believe in live n let live. If that's what u into good for you but why hide. Why pretend.. I wouldn't think of putting gay on my profile knowing I am straight. If u have a problem with being gay or u think it's wrong why do it then?? Be yr self is what I am saying in essence. What do you think or was I being out of order with my reply to him??op why then have you blocked woman.i coudnt message you."

Its kinda for this similar reason I blocked new women whom I haven't messaged. I get loads of guys opening female profiles and asking for cock pics. I fell for it twice so I decided to block women unless I message first or we meet in club. Will write to u now as I think u real and cool

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"this does my head in to.why cant they be up front about wether they are gay or bi? My ex was gay and unfortunatly hid it from me. It ended the marriage when i found out.

Exactly my point.. I just wanna know why they hide it.. it's mostly men.. most bi women say they bi outright.. i don't get it... "
you have blocked women why?

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"this does my head in to.why cant they be up front about wether they are gay or bi? My ex was gay and unfortunatly hid it from me. It ended the marriage when i found out.

Exactly my point.. I just wanna know why they hide it.. it's mostly men.. most bi women say they bi outright.. i don't get it... you have blocked women why?"
maybe hes fab straight

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

Because there is wide spread discrimination toward bi men both on and off the scene "

In the scene there isn't.i stand corrected. I have not seen any club or person discriminating against a gay or bi guy. I admire the scene for their acceptance of different sexuality. We should stop making excuses for deception and deceit. Be yr self if u gay.. there is racism in the world so should I now put a white picture stating I am white??

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"I am a full straight man and recently I noticed a single Male profile fabbed my cock pics. I wondered why a straight guy would fab about 3 of my cock pics so I enquired further. I looked at his verification and saw he had been meeting gay men and TV,s for sex.infact 90 percent of his veri were from guys or TV,s. His profile never said nothing about being gay or bi instead his profile depicts being straight. I had to write to him to enquire why he has to hide his sexuality but he just read n deleted my message.my point is why do gay/bi men do it. I believe in live n let live. If that's what u into good for you but why hide. Why pretend.. I wouldn't think of putting gay on my profile knowing I am straight. If u have a problem with being gay or u think it's wrong why do it then?? Be yr self is what I am saying in essence. What do you think or was I being out of order with my reply to him??"
. His possibly what is known as Fab straight.Yes you would think in 2020 it’s ok for a guy to admit they are gay or bi but for various reasons many don’t.It’s your right to ask a bit further if you are curious as to why a straight guy should fav your pictures. I have had similar experiences to yourself where my pictures have been fab , messages , winks by straight guys. I normally reply back thanks but I am straight best of luck with your search.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because there is wide spread discrimination toward bi men both on and off the scene

Really?

So two guys can play together in a club in front of everyone else and no one will make loud comments about how disgusting they are or go to management and complain?

Male oriented Bi Nights at clubs exist because it is the only time bi men can be themselves without being judged by other patrons.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because being bi means you like straight and gay sex. But its virtually impossible to get a MF straight couple to have a threesome with a bi hat on because they assume you want sex with the husband too.so you put straight because for that senario thats what you are ...interested in cunt not cock.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP you’re seriously overthinking this. We get endless “straight” guys fabbing Abby’s pictures. We don’t scrutinise their profiles, far less message them. This is Fab, things are not always what they seem. We’re not looking for straight people but we will Fab their pics if we like what we see.

Take it as a compliment and move on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because there is wide spread discrimination toward bi men both on and off the scene "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because there is wide spread discrimination toward bi men both on and off the scene

Really?

So two guys can play together in a club in front of everyone else and no one will make loud comments about how disgusting they are or go to management and complain?

Male oriented Bi Nights at clubs exist because it is the only time bi men can be themselves without being judged by other patrons. "

And even on bi nights there can be homophobia.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It’s up to him how he describes himself and if he believes that society is not ready to accept him that way (family/friends/work or whatever) then it is his decision what to call himself.

You have no idea if he is facing struggles etc. Whilst the world has moved on there is still a lot of taboo especially in the ‘bi’ works way more than in gay/lesbian.

It is not our decision to question but to support, whatever he is currently CHOOSING to do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"this does my head in to.why cant they be up front about wether they are gay or bi? My ex was gay and unfortunatly hid it from me. It ended the marriage when i found out.

Exactly my point.. I just wanna know why they hide it.. it's mostly men.. most bi women say they bi outright.. i don't get it... "
it's because bi women are applauded and loved bi men are not especially with couples they think bi men can't play Straight

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because there is wide spread discrimination toward bi men both on and off the scene

Really?

So two guys can play together in a club in front of everyone else and no one will make loud comments about how disgusting they are or go to management and complain?

Male oriented Bi Nights at clubs exist because it is the only time bi men can be themselves without being judged by other patrons. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A majority of fabs done on my fella’s ( he’s straight)pictures have been from straight men as well as bi guys , doesn’t bother him in the slightest , I should imagine it’s just noting that it’s a nice picture in some way but doesn’t mean particular fella is gay or bi

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By *anni and RicCouple over a year ago

York

Because there is wide spread discrimination toward bi men both on and off the scene

Really?

So two guys can play together in a club in front of everyone else and no one will make loud comments about how disgusting they are or go to management and complain?

Male oriented Bi Nights at clubs exist because it is the only time bi men can be themselves without being judged by other patrons. "

Hello C... hope youre well x

It's always bi night when I go to a club

Not going to hide my sexuallity a minute longer. Been there and done that!

Younger guys are the worst for being fab straight and to a point I get it if they are still exploring although those guys are no where near bi enough for us. The older guys tend to be more honest in their profiles in my experience.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because there is wide spread discrimination toward bi men both on and off the scene

Really?

So two guys can play together in a club in front of everyone else and no one will make loud comments about how disgusting they are or go to management and complain?

Male oriented Bi Nights at clubs exist because it is the only time bi men can be themselves without being judged by other patrons.

Hello C... hope youre well x

It's always bi night when I go to a club

Not going to hide my sexuallity a minute longer. Been there and done that!

Hello you two sexy people! We are both well thanks, hope you're coping too

Missing the Bi Nights though... we're going to need to make up for lost time when things get back to normal

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"It’s up to him how he describes himself and if he believes that society is not ready to accept him that way (family/friends/work or whatever) then it is his decision what to call himself.

You have no idea if he is facing struggles etc. Whilst the world has moved on there is still a lot of taboo especially in the ‘bi’ works way more than in gay/lesbian.

It is not our decision to question but to support, whatever he is currently CHOOSING to do."

And that's where u wrong. It's my decision to question why a gay guy will put straight on his profile.. so u saying I should not question deception cos in a way it affects you?? Come on... call it what u want. Twist it. Give it a different name. It is deception. Its lies. Its deceit. We get question about fake profiles etc. So what's the difference. It amazes me when people would say we shouldn't question. Why shouldn't I question. Cos I am a man. Couples and single guys question single guys everytime and sm sure u have been questioned in the past bout something so why shouldn't I question a deceptive profile... hypocrisy at the highest

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It’s because of the shame that has been forced on gay/ bi men by society their entire lives.

Growing up with this toxic shame takes its toll, so people naturally hid their sexuality.

If you want people to change their behaviour you have to actively change the society in which we live. Only then will people feel able to be open about their sexuality.

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By *jl1972Man over a year ago

Bournemouth

I have had quite a few straight males fab my pictures or send winks, messages etc. They know that if they put "bi" on their profile a lot of single females and couples will not want to meet them.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"OP you’re seriously overthinking this. We get endless “straight” guys fabbing Abby’s pictures. We don’t scrutinise their profiles, far less message them. This is Fab, things are not always what they seem. We’re not looking for straight people but we will Fab their pics if we like what we see.

Take it as a compliment and move on."

Again you are assuming I was not taking a compliment. Typical.. listen I get guys grabbing my pics and I never question or say nothing. As a straight man I think differently ok. U cant tell me how to think. I decided to look deep into why an acclaimed straight guy would fab my cock pics. Remember I am straight and its offensive u would want me to agree with a gay guy lying on his profile... I respect each person's sexuality.no problem at all.i am just wondering why he has to be deceptive. We are all brushing lies and deceit and forcing us to take it as normal becos maybe some if you are like him. My point is be your self and let me be my self. My self as a straight man is questioning why my fellow straight man would be grabbing my cock unless he us gay which is not s problem.

If a gay man who states he is gay fabs my picture I would take the compliment and move on. But when a gay lies and is deceptive you can force me to accept it as right and move on just becos you wanna let it slide... come on.. hypocrisy here. We choose the lies we accept.. and I am not over thinking it. I am stating facts. Be realllll

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It’s up to him how he describes himself and if he believes that society is not ready to accept him that way (family/friends/work or whatever) then it is his decision what to call himself.

You have no idea if he is facing struggles etc. Whilst the world has moved on there is still a lot of taboo especially in the ‘bi’ works way more than in gay/lesbian.

It is not our decision to question but to support, whatever he is currently CHOOSING to do.

Talking of hypocrisy...

How many swingers on this site tell their family, friends and co-workers that they are swingers.

An answer to this question is possibly answered by how many people show their face pics on their public profile.

There is no difference between hiding your swinging status from others because you may be unfairly judged, and being a person who chooses not to advertise their sexual orientation for the exact same reason.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I have had quite a few straight males fab my pictures or send winks, messages etc. They know that if they put "bi" on their profile a lot of single females and couples will not want to meet them."

So it's ok to lie to get meets I suppose.. ok.. let's all lie to get a shag.. let's deceive others.. suddenly deception is acceptable. So when a guy lies about having a 10 inch dick to meet a girl who actually wants a 10 inch dick, is that now acceptable??

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By *anni and RicCouple over a year ago

York

I'm not going to shout out how bendy I am in Tesco or at work but you can be very sure that I'll be smiling nicely at the yummy guys and hoping they notice me!

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By *andyMinx_tvTV/TS over a year ago

Leeds

I think it's because they think it will close or narrow down their option of meeting women on here. I have been asked more than once not to verify a "straight" guy for that very reason.

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By *affeine DuskMan over a year ago

Caerphilly

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"It’s up to him how he describes himself and if he believes that society is not ready to accept him that way (family/friends/work or whatever) then it is his decision what to call himself.

You have no idea if he is facing struggles etc. Whilst the world has moved on there is still a lot of taboo especially in the ‘bi’ works way more than in gay/lesbian.

It is not our decision to question but to support, whatever he is currently CHOOSING to do.

Talking of hypocrisy...

How many swingers on this site tell their family, friends and co-workers that they are swingers.

An answer to this question is possibly answered by how many people show their face pics on their public profile.

Wow so u comparing lying on the site to lying outside the site. U actually comparing not telling yr family about swinging to a person lying on a site where people read profiles to decide a meet. Well I like the difference in opinion and the shifting of the goalpost to accommodate a certain type of deception... its actually good we having this discussion as I now realise we could let some deceit slide and others castigated

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I think it's because they think it will close or narrow down their option of meeting women on here. I have been asked more than once not to verify a "straight" guy for that very reason."

Fair enough.. still????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I like to play hard to get.

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By *ringles0510Woman over a year ago

Central Borders

Because there is wide spread discrimination toward bi men both on and off the scene

Really?

So two guys can play together in a club in front of everyone else and no one will make loud comments about how disgusting they are or go to management and complain?

Male oriented Bi Nights at clubs exist because it is the only time bi men can be themselves without being judged by other patrons. "

They should be able to when it's a night that's open to everyone. I've seen it happen in a club and that's absolutely fine. One guy who was watching in the stormed out straight away in utter shock - but that's his problem really.

A lot of bi guys actually do get abusive messages, so can kind of understand. Personally I'd just block the abusers, problem solved. Despite this supposedly being an open minded environment, it definitely isn't.

And then there is "fab straight", guys just chancing their luck and not being honest x

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

Thanks all for the contribution. Quite evocative. I have never put a post on for debate. Guess my first isn't going that bad. Quite an interest... of note pls is I am not against gays.. I am against deception esp on yr sexuality.. keep contributing

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I like to play hard to get.

Hahahaha...

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By *affeine DuskMan over a year ago

Caerphilly

For some, it's deceit.

For some, it saves them getting the kinda messages they get.

Everyone's different, the answer will be different for everyone. Some don't handle those kinda messages well.

I figure, I focus on being a good person, it gives those people one less person to worry about.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Many fems and couples won't meet a guy if he has bi on his profile so guys find it easier to put straight, they are more likely to get a meet then. Some guys even have 2 profiles, a straight one and a bi one.

I find it annoying but i do understand why they do it.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

For some, it's deceit.

For some, it saves them getting the kinda messages they get.

Everyone's different, the answer will be different for everyone. Some don't handle those kinda messages well.

I figure, I focus on being a good person, it gives those people one less person to worry about.

Fair enough

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"Many fems and couples won't meet a guy if he has bi on his profile so guys find it easier to put straight, they are more likely to get a meet then. Some guys even have 2 profiles, a straight one and a bi one.

I find it annoying but i do understand why they do it."

If you put it that way... hmmm .. fair point

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Deception is a little strong. It can be a struggle for bi guys to come to terms with their sexuality and demanding that someone 'comes out' is likely to have the opposite effect

And the fact that these kind of threads get so much attention shows that it is still an issue

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By *affeine DuskMan over a year ago

Caerphilly

"Deception is a little strong. It can be a struggle for bi guys to come to terms with their sexuality and demanding that someone 'comes out' is likely to have the opposite effect

And the fact that these kind of threads get so much attention shows that it is still an issue"

Yep.

I'm not disagreeing there are people who 'hide' elements of themselves to appear like someone's type... or condoning that.

But there is a lot of strong, harsh words slung for people who struggle with who they are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It’s up to him how he describes himself and if he believes that society is not ready to accept him that way (family/friends/work or whatever) then it is his decision what to call himself.

You have no idea if he is facing struggles etc. Whilst the world has moved on there is still a lot of taboo especially in the ‘bi’ works way more than in gay/lesbian.

It is not our decision to question but to support, whatever he is currently CHOOSING to do.

Talking of hypocrisy...

How many swingers on this site tell their family, friends and co-workers that they are swingers.

An answer to this question is possibly answered by how many people show their face pics on their public profile.

Yes that's exactly what I am saying. I don't tell my workmates I am a swinger in my job because it isn't relevant.

For the exact same reason I don't advertise that I am bi in a straight situation because it isn't relevant.

By the way OP saying "why do bi/gay people (fill in the blank)?" is highly prejudicial. Some do, some don't, but to classify an entire genre of people based on the actions of a few is the sort of bigotry we can do wothout in the swinging community.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

most of the messages we get of men are straight, our profile is fairly clear

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Deception is a little strong. It can be a struggle for bi guys to come to terms with their sexuality and demanding that someone 'comes out' is likely to have the opposite effect

And the fact that these kind of threads get so much attention shows that it is still an issue

Yep.

I'm not disagreeing there are people who 'hide' elements of themselves to appear like someone's type... or condoning that.

But there is a lot of strong, harsh words slung for people who struggle with who they are.

I don't struggle with who I am.

Some other people struggle with who I am.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"It’s up to him how he describes himself and if he believes that society is not ready to accept him that way (family/friends/work or whatever) then it is his decision what to call himself.

You have no idea if he is facing struggles etc. Whilst the world has moved on there is still a lot of taboo especially in the ‘bi’ works way more than in gay/lesbian.

It is not our decision to question but to support, whatever he is currently CHOOSING to do.

Talking of hypocrisy...

How many swingers on this site tell their family, friends and co-workers that they are swingers.

An answer to this question is possibly answered by how many people show their face pics on their public profile.

Yes that's exactly what I am saying. I don't tell my workmates I am a swinger in my job because it isn't relevant.

For the exact same reason I don't advertise that I am bi in a straight situation because it isn't relevant.

I can understand you are personally affected and would want to reverse the situation and accuse me of bigotry. I stand by my initial post and if it's all ok you shouldn't have a problem with it or turn it to me to accuse me of bigotry. Own it. Maybe if you guys own what you are then the world might start respecting what you are...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I get far more messages from Straight Men, than I do bi

They are in denile or cheating on their other halfs.

Which is sad

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By *affeine DuskMan over a year ago

Caerphilly

"Deception is a little strong. It can be a struggle for bi guys to come to terms with their sexuality and demanding that someone 'comes out' is likely to have the opposite effect

And the fact that these kind of threads get so much attention shows that it is still an issue

Yep.

I'm not disagreeing there are people who 'hide' elements of themselves to appear like someone's type... or condoning that.

But there is a lot of strong, harsh words slung for people who struggle with who they are.

I don't struggle with who I am.

Some other people struggle with who I am."

Good on you.

Some people do struggle with who they are. Harsh words do not help them.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"Deception is a little strong. It can be a struggle for bi guys to come to terms with their sexuality and demanding that someone 'comes out' is likely to have the opposite effect

And the fact that these kind of threads get so much attention shows that it is still an issue

Yep.

I'm not disagreeing there are people who 'hide' elements of themselves to appear like someone's type... or condoning that.

But there is a lot of strong, harsh words slung for people who struggle with who they are.

I don't struggle with who I am.

Some other people struggle with who I am."

Well done. Own it. Respect bro..my point exactly

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"Deception is a little strong. It can be a struggle for bi guys to come to terms with their sexuality and demanding that someone 'comes out' is likely to have the opposite effect

And the fact that these kind of threads get so much attention shows that it is still an issue

Yep.

I'm not disagreeing there are people who 'hide' elements of themselves to appear like someone's type... or condoning that.

But there is a lot of strong, harsh words slung for people who struggle with who they are.

I don't struggle with who I am.

Some other people struggle with who I am.

Good on you.

Some people do struggle with who they are. Harsh words do not help them.

And please I wasnt harsh to him and I don't think I was harsh here. I asked him the same simple question to understand why he hides his sexuality. Please understand.. I am not gay or bi so my question was innocent. I wonder and still do why gay or bi guys do it..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How can someone else's profile do your head in?

If they aren't what you are looking for,move on to one that is

How would you like someone else to say what you should or shouldn't have on your profile.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"How can someone else's profile do your head in?

If they aren't what you are looking for,move on to one that is

How would you like someone else to say what you should or shouldn't have on your profile."

So you saying it's ok to lie on our profile right. I mean i can open a couples profile eventhough I am single. By your conclusion its my profile I can put what I want?

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By *ubeeStarrXoXTV/TS over a year ago

Leeds

I fab pussy pics, does that mean I want it? Hell NO

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It’s up to him how he describes himself and if he believes that society is not ready to accept him that way (family/friends/work or whatever) then it is his decision what to call himself.

You have no idea if he is facing struggles etc. Whilst the world has moved on there is still a lot of taboo especially in the ‘bi’ works way more than in gay/lesbian.

It is not our decision to question but to support, whatever he is currently CHOOSING to do.

Talking of hypocrisy...

How many swingers on this site tell their family, friends and co-workers that they are swingers.

An answer to this question is possibly answered by how many people show their face pics on their public profile.

Yes that's exactly what I am saying. I don't tell my workmates I am a swinger in my job because it isn't relevant.

For the exact same reason I don't advertise that I am bi in a straight situation because it isn't relevant.

Ok consider if I made these statements...

All tall people are liars

All browneyed people steal

ALL straight people are boring

Can I say this because I know some people who match those descriptions and have those characteristics? No.

Some bi/gay people hide or don't advertise their sexuality and some don't. Please do not make general aspersions about groups of people when each of those people probably have their own reasons, some just some unjust for doing what they do.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I fab pussy pics, does that mean I want it? Hell NO

As usual you missing the point but I get the shifting of goal post by most people regarding the gay and bi guys. In some aspects deception is wrong but for others we can just let it slide and understand

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"How can someone else's profile do your head in?

If they aren't what you are looking for,move on to one that is

How would you like someone else to say what you should or shouldn't have on your profile.

So you saying it's ok to lie on our profile right. I mean i can open a couples profile eventhough I am single. By your conclusion its my profile I can put what I want?"

Do you accept that its easier for some people to be more open than others?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I fab pussy pics, does that mean I want it? Hell NO

I fab pics of cool motorcycles but don't particularly want to have sex with them.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"It’s up to him how he describes himself and if he believes that society is not ready to accept him that way (family/friends/work or whatever) then it is his decision what to call himself.

You have no idea if he is facing struggles etc. Whilst the world has moved on there is still a lot of taboo especially in the ‘bi’ works way more than in gay/lesbian.

It is not our decision to question but to support, whatever he is currently CHOOSING to do.

Talking of hypocrisy...

How many swingers on this site tell their family, friends and co-workers that they are swingers.

An answer to this question is possibly answered by how many people show their face pics on their public profile.

Yes that's exactly what I am saying. I don't tell my workmates I am a swinger in my job because it isn't relevant.

For the exact same reason I don't advertise that I am bi in a straight situation because it isn't relevant.

Ok consider if I made these statements...

All tall people are liars

All browneyed people steal

ALL straight people are boring

Can I say this because I know some people who match those descriptions and have those characteristics? No.

Ohh come on.. stop going low just to prove a point. It's a general statement and it will be stupid of u to think I meant all gay/bi guys hide there sexuality. Please don't go there. Read my follow up messages where I also said I get gay guys grabbing my pics and I appreciated it. Bet u as usual didnt see that just again to give a dog a bad name and hand it.. all cos I frowned against deception by gay people.. oh my bad SOME GAY PEOPLE.. apologies about my use of English...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Deception is a little strong. It can be a struggle for bi guys to come to terms with their sexuality and demanding that someone 'comes out' is likely to have the opposite effect

And the fact that these kind of threads get so much attention shows that it is still an issue

Yep.

I'm not disagreeing there are people who 'hide' elements of themselves to appear like someone's type... or condoning that.

But there is a lot of strong, harsh words slung for people who struggle with who they are.

I don't struggle with who I am.

Some other people struggle with who I am.

Good on you.

Some people do struggle with who they are. Harsh words do not help them.

but in our opinion if they cant be honest about that, we always think, what else are they hiding? like they ofter go dogging bareback or something, so no trust from us, so would never meet them, planty of honest guys for us to choose from

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

Gay guys fabbing my pics I meant lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I fab pussy pics, does that mean I want it? Hell NO

on a swinging site where people are open enough to swing and fuck with others then people should be honest about their sexuality,so many messages from single guys who have straight on their profile who then say they are secretly bi because they do not want people on here to know about their bi side is just a shit excuse.as you say "own it" damned right and if people do not like the fact that mr here is bi then that is fine and we are not for you but why lie? why keep changing your sexuality from bi to straight to bi as it suits just to get your leg over with a stranger.they are not thruthful to themselves or others on here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It’s up to him how he describes himself and if he believes that society is not ready to accept him that way (family/friends/work or whatever) then it is his decision what to call himself.

You have no idea if he is facing struggles etc. Whilst the world has moved on there is still a lot of taboo especially in the ‘bi’ works way more than in gay/lesbian.

It is not our decision to question but to support, whatever he is currently CHOOSING to do.

Talking of hypocrisy...

How many swingers on this site tell their family, friends and co-workers that they are swingers.

An answer to this question is possibly answered by how many people show their face pics on their public profile.

Yes that's exactly what I am saying. I don't tell my workmates I am a swinger in my job because it isn't relevant.

For the exact same reason I don't advertise that I am bi in a straight situation because it isn't relevant.

Ok consider if I made these statements...

All tall people are liars

All browneyed people steal

ALL straight people are boring

Can I say this because I know some people who match those descriptions and have those characteristics? No.

There you go. It's not that hard is it?

Thank you

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"Deception is a little strong. It can be a struggle for bi guys to come to terms with their sexuality and demanding that someone 'comes out' is likely to have the opposite effect

And the fact that these kind of threads get so much attention shows that it is still an issue

Yep.

I'm not disagreeing there are people who 'hide' elements of themselves to appear like someone's type... or condoning that.

But there is a lot of strong, harsh words slung for people who struggle with who they are.

I don't struggle with who I am.

Some other people struggle with who I am.

Good on you.

Some people do struggle with who they are. Harsh words do not help them.

My point exactly. It baffles me that suddenly people are making excuses for deception or lies on a profile. Saying ohh..understand with them. They have to lie. They have a reason to lie. They won't get a meet if they lie. I am speechless. Some now accusing me of bigotry just cos I said it as it is. Come on.. when do we draw the line.. am I now allowed to lie and give my excuses?? If the guys who are gay cannot be real and own who they are how can they now expect people to respect who they are?

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By *affeine DuskMan over a year ago

Caerphilly

"Deception is a little strong. It can be a struggle for bi guys to come to terms with their sexuality and demanding that someone 'comes out' is likely to have the opposite effect

And the fact that these kind of threads get so much attention shows that it is still an issue

Yep.

I'm not disagreeing there are people who 'hide' elements of themselves to appear like someone's type... or condoning that.

But there is a lot of strong, harsh words slung for people who struggle with who they are.

I don't struggle with who I am.

Some other people struggle with who I am.

Good on you.

Some people do struggle with who they are. Harsh words do not help them.

Agree. If you don't feel like you can trust someone, absolutely do not meet them.

My point wasn't that, my point was simply one of the many, maaaany reasons people don't show their sexuality isn't that they won't get meets. It's that they will, and do, get attacked.

Just one point. Other points here are valid, of course.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"It’s up to him how he describes himself and if he believes that society is not ready to accept him that way (family/friends/work or whatever) then it is his decision what to call himself.

You have no idea if he is facing struggles etc. Whilst the world has moved on there is still a lot of taboo especially in the ‘bi’ works way more than in gay/lesbian.

It is not our decision to question but to support, whatever he is currently CHOOSING to do.

Talking of hypocrisy...

How many swingers on this site tell their family, friends and co-workers that they are swingers.

An answer to this question is possibly answered by how many people show their face pics on their public profile.

Yes that's exactly what I am saying. I don't tell my workmates I am a swinger in my job because it isn't relevant.

For the exact same reason I don't advertise that I am bi in a straight situation because it isn't relevant.

Ok consider if I made these statements...

All tall people are liars

All browneyed people steal

ALL straight people are boring

Can I say this because I know some people who match those descriptions and have those characteristics? No.

There you go. It's not that hard is it?

Thank you

You welcome.. correction and point taken

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Deception is a little strong. It can be a struggle for bi guys to come to terms with their sexuality and demanding that someone 'comes out' is likely to have the opposite effect

And the fact that these kind of threads get so much attention shows that it is still an issue

Yep.

I'm not disagreeing there are people who 'hide' elements of themselves to appear like someone's type... or condoning that.

But there is a lot of strong, harsh words slung for people who struggle with who they are.

I don't struggle with who I am.

Some other people struggle with who I am.

Good on you.

Some people do struggle with who they are. Harsh words do not help them.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I fab pussy pics, does that mean I want it? Hell NO

My point exactly. U summed it all up.. much love to the gay and bi guys..just be urself.

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By *onny BonesMan over a year ago

a block away from heaven

OP, I’ve often wondered the same and initially it made me wonder what on my profile suggests I’d welcome those advances. But as you’ve said in later messages open mindedness goes along way in the scene.

People try their luck in the hope that they may also find someone who may appreciate the advance.

As and when I get those approaches I block the person to prevent it from continuing.

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By *ubeeStarrXoXTV/TS over a year ago

Leeds

Appreciated them fabbing your pics? But I was blocked for fabbing a couple LOL

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I fab pussy pics, does that mean I want it? Hell NO

I fab pics of cool motorcycles but don't particularly want to have sex with them."

Hahahaha... I never said he wanted to have sex with me.i just wondered why he his his sexuality when he was actually bi or gay..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So who is at fault here.

People who lie.

People who make it necessary for them to lie.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

Appreciated them fabbing your pics? But I was blocked for fabbing a couple LOL"

APPRECIATED THEM is the word.. past tense lol

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"So who is at fault here.

People who lie.

People who make it necessary for them to lie.

There is always a reason to lie. Let's just absolve ourselves of lying and blame the reason... perfect world.

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By *urocougarCouple over a year ago

watton

We get a lot of straight guys message us say I can be bi if I can fuck the wife’s pussy WTF is that about

If your single guy profile says straight then it’s a block from us I’m afraid just fess up if you are bi yes we know it’s a taboo in the swinging world still for guys but if they don’t fess up it won’t change the stigma bi guys seem to have in the swinging world

FFS we are all sexual and enjoy it

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"OP, I’ve often wondered the same and initially it made me wonder what on my profile suggests I’d welcome those advances. But as you’ve said in later messages open mindedness goes along way in the scene.

People try their luck in the hope that they may also find someone who may appreciate the advance.

As and when I get those approaches I block the person to prevent it from continuing. "

Cheers bro.. point taken

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By *ubeeStarrXoXTV/TS over a year ago

Leeds

Appreciated them fabbing your pics? But I was blocked for fabbing a couple LOL

APPRECIATED THEM is the word.. past tense lol"

But my point was.... if you appreciated them you wouldn't of blocked them for it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We get a lot of straight guys message us say I can be bi if I can fuck the wife’s pussy WTF is that about

FFS we are all sexual and enjoy it "

well said

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

Appreciated them fabbing your pics? But I was blocked for fabbing a couple LOL

APPRECIATED THEM is the word.. past tense lol

But my point was.... if you appreciated them you wouldn't of blocked them for it

I appreciated them and still do but didnt block them then.i started the blocking 2 days ago and like a contributor said I didnt want it to continue so the best way was to block them. Just not for me but respect who they are

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I fab pussy pics, does that mean I want it? Hell NO

I fab pics of cool motorcycles but don't particularly want to have sex with them.

Hahahaha... I never said he wanted to have sex with me.i just wondered why he his his sexuality when he was actually bi or gay.."

The point is that there is a distinction between the admiration of beauty and sexual attraction. Converses don't apply.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I fab pussy pics, does that mean I want it? Hell NO

I fab pics of cool motorcycles but don't particularly want to have sex with them.

Hahahaha... I never said he wanted to have sex with me.i just wondered why he his his sexuality when he was actually bi or gay..

The point is that there is a distinction between the admiration of beauty and sexual attraction. Converses don't apply. "

Exactly but I never mentioned or stated he wanted to have a sexual encounter with me hence the title of my post

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS over a year ago

doncaster

Most straight men I meet off here tell me they hide their bi side cos they the women on here won't meet them , I've been on here over 10 yrs and I've told this so so many times but it seems perfectly fine for women to be bi

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By *urocougarCouple over a year ago

watton

That’s true

but how many lady’s on here think it’s hot seeing guys get it on together there are quite a lot who do

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I fab pussy pics, does that mean I want it? Hell NO

I fab pics of cool motorcycles but don't particularly want to have sex with them.

Hahahaha... I never said he wanted to have sex with me.i just wondered why he his his sexuality when he was actually bi or gay..

The point is that there is a distinction between the admiration of beauty and sexual attraction. Converses don't apply.

Exactly but I never mentioned or stated he wanted to have a sexual encounter with me hence the title of my post"

Not sexual encounter. Sexual attraction.

Let me illustrate. I used to be a bodybuilder in a former life and can appreciate when a guy has been hitting the gym hard.

I go up to one guy who doesn't know I'm bi and say "Wow your abs are awesome". He says thanks.

I walk up to a guy who knows I'm bi and say the same thing and he says "Stop trying to hit on me dude I'm straight"

You see I didn't change. My intentions didn't change. But the perception of my actions changed because the person interpreting my actions has a changed perception of me as a person.

Once a person knows you are bi then there is now a question in that person's mind as to your motives.

There is a documentary called the staircase where a man was jailed for a murder he didn't commit. The evidence that convicted him? They discovered he was bi!

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By *airybaresCouple over a year ago

Nottingham

My biggest issue is we are trying to put people in boxes, gay, straight or bi and sexuality is much more complicated then that. I like to think of it as a line that we all fit on. It is also fluid and can change with time, mood or situation. Sometimes i am more likely to want to play 'bi' and sometimes straighter.

There are a lot of profiles which state no bi men.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think alot do it because alot off couples wont meet bi men

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My biggest issue is we are trying to put people in boxes, gay, straight or bi and sexuality is much more complicated then that. I like to think of it as a line that we all fit on. It is also fluid and can change with time, mood or situation. Sometimes i am more likely to want to play 'bi' and sometimes straighter.

There are a lot of profiles which state no bi men."

Well The Kinsey Scale says just that.

The problem is on fab whilst everyone is a self appointed expert on male bisexuality, some of the opinions expressed and viewpoints held belong somewhere in another country and another time zone.

I've had conversations with people on here who deny there is even a difference between male bisexuality and male homosexuality.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How can someone else's profile do your head in?

If they aren't what you are looking for,move on to one that is

How would you like someone else to say what you should or shouldn't have on your profile.

So you saying it's ok to lie on our profile right. I mean i can open a couples profile eventhough I am single. By your conclusion its my profile I can put what I want?"

Yes you can

You can put whatever you want,it's your profile

But you will soon be found out that you're not a couple,it's not difficult to work out

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP, maybe it’s just me but I’m astounded that you have got this wound up over a straight guy fabbing your pics. You’ve been on the site long enough to know that this kind of stuff happens all the time.

Does it really matter that much? It’s Fab, not real life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"OP, maybe it’s just me but I’m astounded that you have got this wound up over a straight guy fabbing your pics. You’ve been on the site long enough to know that this kind of stuff happens all the time.

Does it really matter that much? It’s Fab, not real life.

(Disclaimer: Kindly note that my approval of your comment does amount to sexual attraction to you in any way shape or form despite the fact that I am bisexual and sexual desire is the only thing that motivates my kind)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A lot of women, block you if you are TV?. Still a lot of stigma towards bi males, which is why they hide it, you can't blame them, who wants the hassle,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does it really matter that much? It’s Fab, not real life.

Now I’m wound up! How very dare you not fancy me?! And don’t even think about Fabbing any of my pics!

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

Some straight people seem to think homophobia has been eradicated from society.

It hasn't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does it really matter that much? It’s Fab, not real life.

Now I’m wound up! How very dare you not fancy me?! And don’t even think about Fabbing any of my pics!

Fabs from bi men have no value. We fab anything that moves so it wouldn't mean anything. What can you do? Bi men eh?

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By *ifeandhubby400Couple over a year ago

Arse hole of nowhere ,Scotland

If i had a £1 for every "straight" guy who sends us a message but they say straight ,we would be rich ,i usually have to say not interested as you are straight but they come back but im bi ,i just dont say as it puts people off ,ok fair enough but isnt that trying to get the best of both worlds ,straight /bi meets ? ,just endless to me having to drag it out of them ,much prefer the ones who say what they are ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

probably because most women won't go with a straight or bi guy

they think they will pick up AIDS or something because gay men were originally blamed for it

but apparently its ok for them to munch pie

i get called gay everywhere i go these days but the truth of the matter is i'm into women

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By *aulupforitMan over a year ago

Corbridge

Am bi and proud.

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By *arl17Man over a year ago

Central Portugal

Couldn’t give a flying fuck either way to be honest. If your not true to yourself .... etc etc...

So far so good and tbh why moan a bloke likes your cock pic? ????

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By *aulupforitMan over a year ago

Corbridge

Exactly.And what else are they lying about

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By *arl17Man over a year ago

Central Portugal

"If i had a £1 for every "straight" guy who sends us a message but they say straight ,we would be rich ,i usually have to say not interested as you are straight but they come back but im bi ,i just dont say as it puts people off ,ok fair enough but isnt that trying to get the best of both worlds ,straight /bi meets ? ,just endless to me having to drag it out of them ,much prefer the ones who say what they are ..."

I might even be as rich to

Funny that... must just be a coincidence

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some straight people seem to think homophobia has been eradicated from society.

It hasn't. "

I can understand the hangover of sexual orientation discrimination in society.

What I can't understand is the homophobia that exists within the swinging community, a community themselves maginalised.

How can we expect others to accept our lifestyle choices when we can't accept the sexual orientation of our own?

I would like to commend people like Spicyminx, SparklyC, Playgrounds and other event organizers for pioneering a more acceptable mindset in the UK.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does it really matter that much? It’s Fab, not real life.

Now I’m wound up! How very dare you not fancy me?! And don’t even think about Fabbing any of my pics!

Fabs from bi men have no value. We fab anything that moves so it wouldn't mean anything. What can you do? Bi men eh?

Same with us Bi couples....over anyone like a rash!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe the guy is curious or confused or just appreciates a nice pic. He wasn’t asking to meet you and probably not expecting to be judged or questioned. This site should thrive on no pressure or judgement. You aren’t interested? Forget it and move on. Poor guy could be distressed about being a topic in this forum now.

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By *_MariusMan over a year ago

Currently Faraway

Unfortunately lots of us men are pussy hunters and as such, will do whatever they can to attract as many possible suitors. A lot of years ago, when I first started in this site I used to say “straight” (fuckin’ell...) in order to attract straight male/bi female couples, because I wanted to exercise my bisexuality with women.

Very, very quickly though I discovered the absolute pleasure of couples, as well as a few singles, who like bisexual men. I thought to myself “as a man who plays solo with MF couples, I will always struggle so fuck this, I might as well be honest and have a chance with the couples who are my unicorns.”

What’s the point of pursuing sex with as many people as possible if half of them are not ok with who I am? I might as well focus on those who matter the most. But, not all of us are following the same train of thought...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And its amazing how many straight couple meets you get to and the guy and his mrs want to watch you suck his cick lol. The best one I'm not bi but you can suck my cock if you want lol...

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By *0cksuckerMan over a year ago

Coventry

There is a big step between exploring your own sexuality with little things like looking at a cock pic or flirting with a guy and accepting you are bi/gay. People find it hard to accept themselves so they don’t really owe it to you to put it on their profile. I was “deceitful” half of my teenage years and tried converting to being straight because I couldn’t accept who I was. It’s not like they are trying to trick something out of you, if you’re straight then it wouldn’t matter whether they are gay/bi/straight, you wouldn’t be interested so why does it matter? It’s just an indication of who that person is attracted to. Would you also be offended if someone says they like people with blonde hair but winks at someone with brown hair?

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By *_MariusMan over a year ago

Currently Faraway

"There is a big step between exploring your own sexuality with little things like looking at a cock pic or flirting with a guy and accepting you are bi/gay. People find it hard to accept themselves so they don’t really owe it to you to put it on their profile. I was “deceitful” half of my teenage years and tried converting to being straight because I couldn’t accept who I was. It’s not like they are trying to trick something out of you, if you’re straight then it wouldn’t matter whether they are gay/bi/straight, you wouldn’t be interested so why does it matter? It’s just an indication of who that person is attracted to. Would you also be offended if someone says they like people with blonde hair but winks at someone with brown hair?

I don’t think that struggling with your sexuality has anything whatsoever to do with saying you are “straight” on fabswingers.com

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By *adetMan over a year ago

South of Ipswich

Just an observation...

A thread about women being secretly bi - 21 posts

A thread about men being secretly bi - 105 posts

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How someone identifies themselves is THEIR choice. Why the fuck do we have or feel entitled to an opinion. It’s THEIR life, it’s THEIR profile!

We should not give a fuck nor question nor discuss. Even if sharing our own experiences. Everyone is different and does things for THEIR own reasons!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well heres a thought, a lot of ‘straight’ men like to eat cum from me when everyone is done playing, iv always thought that must make them bi but they insist it doesnt. Not that i really care as im bi i just think everyone should embrace who they are instead of finding it almost offensive iv suggested they may be a bi male

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Well heres a thought, a lot of ‘straight’ men like to eat cum from me when everyone is done playing, iv always thought that must make them bi but they insist it doesnt. Not that i really care as im bi i just think everyone should embrace who they are instead of finding it almost offensive iv suggested they may be a bi male "

Why the fuck does it even matter. You’re happy, they’re happy - why label it!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Exactly.

Sexual preference isn't a contract you enter into.

I don't eat my favourite meal every day, breakfast lunch and supper......

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because bi women are considered hot and sexy where as I found over the years that bi men are considered strange and unmanly. Even had convo with some women that fully bi and loved it and then bi men came up and all said: oh that’s just weird know my guy would be into cock.

Hum you are into pussy so it’s the same. !?

They: no I want my men to be manly and bi men are weird and Not masculine.

Naturally I told them they Fucking idiots

The gay is a diff set of rules I think

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By *ikilovesCCouple over a year ago

village life, closest main town inverness

"Maybe the guy is curious or confused or just appreciates a nice pic. He wasn’t asking to meet you and probably not expecting to be judged or questioned. This site should thrive on no pressure or judgement. You aren’t interested? Forget it and move on. Poor guy could be distressed about being a topic in this forum now."

Absolutely this, the last sentence is quite right.

Whether we agree with the Op or not about hiding sexuality

it's disgraceful to single out and make some poor individual feel like shit

for what, after all, was just fabbing some pics, the point could

(and has been in the past) have been made without doing that

All that does is make even more feel the need to hide their true feelings.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Absolutely this, the last sentence is quite right.

Whether we agree with the Op or not about hiding sexuality

it's disgraceful to single out and make some poor individual feel like shit

for what, after all, was just fabbing some pics, the point could

(and has been in the past) have been made without doing that

All that does is make even more feel the need to hide their true feelings."

This is the exact point I was trying to make initially but received a tirade back from the OP.

How someone has got into such a tizz over someone else fabbing their pics is beyond me. It’s a basic bit f fun on here so to take it so seriously and lead on to such a heated debate......People need to remind themselves that Fab is for enjoyment, not to get in such a state over such a minor issue!

Miss V

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By *nnocentimesMan over a year ago

over there by that tree

I appreciate a good picture - doesn’t mean I want to fuck you or even talk to you....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I appreciate a good picture - doesn’t mean I want to fuck you or even talk to you....

I'm the same.... except when it comes to you. Having met you in person you're not only one of the best looking guys on fab but one of the nicest too. A true gent!

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By *ikilovesCCouple over a year ago

village life, closest main town inverness

Absolutely this, the last sentence is quite right.

Whether we agree with the Op or not about hiding sexuality

it's disgraceful to single out and make some poor individual feel like shit

for what, after all, was just fabbing some pics, the point could

(and has been in the past) have been made without doing that

All that does is make even more feel the need to hide their true feelings.

This is the exact point I was trying to make initially but received a tirade back from the OP.

Miss V

Saw that, always the voice of reason lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Because there is wide spread discrimination toward bi men both on and off the scene "

as long as you’re honest with the person you’re with x

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By *nnocentimesMan over a year ago

over there by that tree

"I appreciate a good picture - doesn’t mean I want to fuck you or even talk to you....

I'm the same.... except when it comes to you. Having met you in person you're not only one of the best looking guys on fab but one of the nicest too. A true gent!

Awww thanks buddy - can’t wait to catch up with you guys!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It takes all types to make a world,I get many a profile like that like the op described..I say thanks and move on..lifes too short..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Absolutely this, the last sentence is quite right.

Whether we agree with the Op or not about hiding sexuality

it's disgraceful to single out and make some poor individual feel like shit

for what, after all, was just fabbing some pics, the point could

(and has been in the past) have been made without doing that

All that does is make even more feel the need to hide their true feelings.

This is the exact point I was trying to make initially but received a tirade back from the OP.

Miss V

Saw that, always the voice of reason lol

Thank you so much, that’s appreciated. I try to be but it backfires at times!

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By *ickDastardlyMan over a year ago

North East

Because there is wide spread discrimination toward bi men both on and off the scene

Sorry to be blunt, but that is just plain ignorance.

Just because you haven't seen gay/bi men be discriminated against in the scene, it doesn't exist?

If your fully straight, I don't expect you to understand.

But everyone should be mutually respectful.

I'm bisexual and I hid it on here for a long time because a lot of women and couples think its disgusting. People can be abusive and I've felt that. Its uncomfortable sometimes.

Some people think bi men are only after cock. That we can't play in a straight situations because we wouldn't be able to resist the temptation of penis. Along with many, many other stereotypes out there. That are just wrong.

But if people are uncomfortable with my bisexuality they have every right to say they aren't interested and walk away. I understand that. But its more the treatment you get surrounding that. Especially online.

What interests me is what does it matter if I have played with a man before in the past? What impact does that have on the now? Other than peoples prejudices. You might want to sleep with me one minute. But you've learnt I've had a bi mmf in the past and its over. Its fascinating.

I certainly don't interrogate every single/couple on their sexual history before we play. As long as they are safe and clean, it shouldn't matter.

If these 'fully straight men' are liking your pictures, they most likely aren't fully straight. They are hiding because thats where they feel most comfortable.

What these men are doing is paying you compliment. Its up to you how you take it.

I hope that provides a bit of insight for you. At least from where I'm sitting.

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By *ormalguy8Man over a year ago

oldham

"That’s true

but how many lady’s on here think it’s hot seeing guys get it on together there are quite a lot who do

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By *_MariusMan over a year ago

Currently Faraway

In all fairness the OP DID provide some context and I think some of the opposition to his post seems to be missing the point here...

It is not nice to struggle with your sexuality and it is not nice to be ignorantly judged by other people who believe that you are not man enough or that you cannot perform in a 'straight' situation (I am among many guys who have experience in that), nobody can deny that...

H o w e v e r, when you come across a profile that says 'straight' and a lot of the verifications have been from other men and TVs (who are also men), clearly the person is not struggling t h a t much with their sexuality because if they were struggling t h a t much, they would at least have kept such verifications completely private...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I appreciate a good picture - doesn’t mean I want to fuck you or even talk to you....

I'm the same.... except when it comes to you. Having met you in person you're not only one of the best looking guys on fab but one of the nicest too. A true gent!

Awww thanks buddy - can’t wait to catch up with you guys! "

Us too. After COVID-19 you will be Tracked, Traced and Tested, your stamina tested that is

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In all fairness the OP DID provide some context and I think some of the opposition to his post seems to be missing the point here...

When Darwin first discovered the platypus scientists described it as a freak because it laid eggs and suckled it's young.

The poor platypus,however was not a freak, just the people who insist on classifying everything.

Perhaps some some people, myself included, believe that one does not have to follow a puritan life to be one thing or another.

Some psychologists believe that sexual orientation requires two of three things:

Behavior

Attraction

Self Identification

In this particular instance you have the behaviour of a bisexual person but not the attraction nor self identification.

Should this be the case it is not them who are "struggling" with their own sexual identity, but those who judge them not understanding that not adhering to general preference 100% of the time does not change who they are.

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By *_MariusMan over a year ago

Currently Faraway

"In all fairness the OP DID provide some context and I think some of the opposition to his post seems to be missing the point here...

When Darwin first discovered the platypus scientists described it as a freak because it laid eggs and suckled it's young.

The poor platypus,however was not a freak, just the people who insist on classifying everything.

Perhaps some some people, myself included, believe that one does not have to follow a puritan life to be one thing or another.

Some psychologists believe that sexual orientation requires two of three things:

Behavior

Attraction

Self Identification

In this particular instance you have the behaviour of a bisexual person but not the attraction nor self identification.

I am not sure I understood you fully, sorry...are you saying--in other words--that there is legitimacy in the whole "I don't fancy men, I am not gay or bi, I just like the cock"?

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"In all fairness the OP DID provide some context and I think some of the opposition to his post seems to be missing the point here...

Sir you alone and a few have clearly understood me. I deliberately have not replied to the many ignorant people here who chose to move away from my point and castigate me simply becos it personally affects them and they think they coming to the aid of there own. I know what I said and my intention and no one would make me accept lies and deceit as normal. I don't care bout the situation or the reason. A lie is a lie. U can try and paint it the way u like but it's a lie. You have stated you are bi on yr profile and I actually respect you even more than the ones here who state they are bi but yet defend a bi guy who lies on his profile to get meets or according to them he is struggling.. what a load of bs. Like you said he is struggling so much but yet displays all his veris from guys showing he fucks guy.. what idiocy and for some all knowing people here trying to misquote me and assume rubbish just to prove a point is baffling. Unlike some of you, I will never accept deceit or lies. I will call it out as it is. If you are gay own it. If you bi own it. For God's sake if you can't own what you are how the hell do you want others to accept you.. it has to start from you not me. The gays and bi people have to start the revolution. I am not gay you are so be proud of it so I can see you in that light.

Some people are so unbelievable but I can understand in a way it kinda affects them hence their blind support. See the truth and say it. The truth is every lie is a lie and here on fab profiles are taken down for being fake. If you lie you are straight when infact you are not it's a fake n false profile and it baffles me you want me to accept falsehood just becos you align with him. Sorry I stand by what I said. Its fake. Its lies and its deceit. Be yr self. So tell me if you hide yr sexuality you now want me to accept it?? So why hide. Why lie. And all this struggling with yr sexuality while displaying all the men you have slept with should now shut you supporters up.

For the record I accept all sexuality. I don't have a problem with being gay.i have s problem with you being gay and lying about it. Now let the supporters come out with more accusations.

Also I disagree with putting anything on yr profile becos its yr profile. Nooo.. u put the right thing on yr profile. U don't put a 10inc penis on yr profile when u got 4 and you obviously don't say u a couple when u are single. They are lies. You definitely don't say you are straight when you are bi. Also for the record I did not give the guy a hard time. I only asked a question which I needed an answer which was why say on yr profile you are straight when you have veris for loads of guys n TV s u fuck. I genuinely wanted to know. Also I never ever thought becos he fabbed my dick pics he wanted to fuck me or talk to me. Such cheap shots are laughable. Where the hell did u all get that from... did u actually read my post.. I was talking about the deceit.... be yrself and don't paint a lie to be true..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In all fairness the OP DID provide some context and I think some of the opposition to his post seems to be missing the point here...

When Darwin first discovered the platypus scientists described it as a freak because it laid eggs and suckled it's young.

The poor platypus,however was not a freak, just the people who insist on classifying everything.

Perhaps some some people, myself included, believe that one does not have to follow a puritan life to be one thing or another.

Some psychologists believe that sexual orientation requires two of three things:

Behavior

Attraction

Self Identification

In this particular instance you have the behaviour of a bisexual person but not the attraction nor self identification.

I am not sure I understood you fully, sorry...are you saying--in other words--that there is legitimacy in the whole "I don't fancy men, I am not gay or bi, I just like the cock"?"

I am saying it doesn't matter whether that belief is legitimate or not.

That is what they believe, they are not being dishonest they simply believe differently.

Maybe they are wrong, maybe they are right. Who knows?

The point is that a lot of hurt in this world is caused by the refusal of some people to allow others to have beliefs different to their own. I for one choose to live and let live. They aren't hurting me so I have no problem with them.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"In all fairness the OP DID provide some context and I think some of the opposition to his post seems to be missing the point here...

No surprise not many have replied to yr observation. They suddenly gone quiet and have shut up. Suddenly all the excuses of struggling with his sexuality and disappeared.. u hit the nail in the head. They now realise he wasnt actually struggling as he had veris on.. am sure they thinking of a next excuse. Let's wait.. they will come up with something... keep being yr self mate. Much respect to u.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"In all fairness the OP DID provide some context and I think some of the opposition to his post seems to be missing the point here...

When Darwin first discovered the platypus scientists described it as a freak because it laid eggs and suckled it's young.

The poor platypus,however was not a freak, just the people who insist on classifying everything.

Perhaps some some people, myself included, believe that one does not have to follow a puritan life to be one thing or another.

Some psychologists believe that sexual orientation requires two of three things:

Behavior

Attraction

Self Identification

In this particular instance you have the behaviour of a bisexual person but not the attraction nor self identification.

I am not sure I understood you fully, sorry...are you saying--in other words--that there is legitimacy in the whole "I don't fancy men, I am not gay or bi, I just like the cock"?

I am saying it doesn't matter whether that belief is legitimate or not.

That is what they believe, they are not being dishonest they simply believe differently.

Maybe they are wrong, maybe they are right. Who knows?

I actually agree. But there is one thing we all know. A lie is a lie.. there is no embellishing of a lie.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

We are in the uk and that is one of the reasons I respect the values of the uk. Respect for all sexuality and beliefs. We not in Jamaica or say Africa where its is frowned at in the society. So if you cant be yrself here in the uk where else can you be

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

most bi men prefer males even when women are available.i have yet to meet a bi guy who proritises woman before men.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In all fairness the OP DID provide some context and I think some of the opposition to his post seems to be missing the point here...

When Darwin first discovered the platypus scientists described it as a freak because it laid eggs and suckled it's young.

The poor platypus,however was not a freak, just the people who insist on classifying everything.

Perhaps some some people, myself included, believe that one does not have to follow a puritan life to be one thing or another.

Some psychologists believe that sexual orientation requires two of three things:

Behavior

Attraction

Self Identification

In this particular instance you have the behaviour of a bisexual person but not the attraction nor self identification.

I am not sure I understood you fully, sorry...are you saying--in other words--that there is legitimacy in the whole "I don't fancy men, I am not gay or bi, I just like the cock"?

I am saying it doesn't matter whether that belief is legitimate or not.

That is what they believe, they are not being dishonest they simply believe differently.

Maybe they are wrong, maybe they are right. Who knows?

I actually agree. But there is one thing we all know. A lie is a lie.. there is no embellishing of a lie."

If someone put a gun to my head and said they would kill me if I wasn't straight I would swear blind that I'm straight.

Ok it's an extreme example to illustrate a point. But the point is that people shouldn't HAVE to lie about who they are. We should accept each other for who we are.

In the case of people say they are straight when not all of their encounters have been hetrosexual, if they idenified as straight and were only attracted to the opposite sex then to classify themselves as the opposite of what they think they are would be lying.

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By *ablo minibar123Woman over a year ago

I understand why bi men lie about it as they assume less women will meet them, but then again as they do lie about it they could be missing out on meeting some great bi couples who are not looking to meet straight men. I dont understand why they lie then show their verifications as being mostly with men, as it just outs them as being dishonest.

I have a hell of alot more respect for someone who is open about their sexuality than i have for liars.

On a place like this if i was a bi male or female id admit it with pride, if people didnt want to meet me because of that, then why the hell woukd i want to meet them anyway

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"most bi men prefer males even when women are available.i have yet to meet a bi guy who proritises woman before men."

That's strange because most of the bi men I know prefer women 99% to 1%.

This includes myself. Bearing in mind that there are people on this thread who know me and have met me at bi nights.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I understand why bi men lie about it as they assume less women will meet them, but then again as they do lie about it they could be missing out on meeting some great bi couples who are not looking to meet straight men. I dont understand why they lie then show their verifications as being mostly with men, as it just outs them as being dishonest.

I have a hell of alot more respect for someone who is open about their sexuality than i have for liars.

On a place like this if i was a bi male or female id admit it with pride, if people didnt want to meet me because of that, then why the hell woukd i want to meet them anyway

Exactly my point and people take me out of context like I was against being bi.... nooo way..

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By *_MariusMan over a year ago

Currently Faraway

"In all fairness the OP DID provide some context and I think some of the opposition to his post seems to be missing the point here...

When Darwin first discovered the platypus scientists described it as a freak because it laid eggs and suckled it's young.

The poor platypus,however was not a freak, just the people who insist on classifying everything.

Perhaps some some people, myself included, believe that one does not have to follow a puritan life to be one thing or another.

Some psychologists believe that sexual orientation requires two of three things:

Behavior

Attraction

Self Identification

In this particular instance you have the behaviour of a bisexual person but not the attraction nor self identification.

I am not sure I understood you fully, sorry...are you saying--in other words--that there is legitimacy in the whole "I don't fancy men, I am not gay or bi, I just like the cock"?

I am saying it doesn't matter whether that belief is legitimate or not.

That is what they believe, they are not being dishonest they simply believe differently.

Maybe they are wrong, maybe they are right. Who knows?

In and of itself, your attitude of "live and let live" is genuinely respectable. But at the same time, allow me to say, there is also something called 'insulting one's intelligence'. For example, if I come across a guy who really likes to worship my cock and tells me 'I'm totally straight, I don't fancy you, I just like your cock', the next logical question is: 'If I look like an ugly fucker, the ugliest you have seen, would you still like to suck my cock?' I sincerely doubt that there would be any people who would do that...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have a hell of alot more respect for someone who is open about their sexuality than i have for liars.

On a place like this if i was a bi male or female id admit it with pride, if people didnt want to meet me because of that, then why the hell woukd i want to meet them anyway

Maybe there was a time when bisexual men and bi couples were unpopular, but those times times have changed.

As a bi man in a bi couple I do not have enough time to get around to all the people who, rather than seeing male bisexuality as disgusting, find it a turn on. Some couples also understand that a bisexual man is able to play straight in a hetrosexual situation.

In fact what IS a problem is some straight men who pretend to be bi. They come to bi nights and hone straight in on the female of a couple.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In all fairness the OP DID provide some context and I think some of the opposition to his post seems to be missing the point here...

When Darwin first discovered the platypus scientists described it as a freak because it laid eggs and suckled it's young.

The poor platypus,however was not a freak, just the people who insist on classifying everything.

Perhaps some some people, myself included, believe that one does not have to follow a puritan life to be one thing or another.

Some psychologists believe that sexual orientation requires two of three things:

Behavior

Attraction

Self Identification

In this particular instance you have the behaviour of a bisexual person but not the attraction nor self identification.

I am not sure I understood you fully, sorry...are you saying--in other words--that there is legitimacy in the whole "I don't fancy men, I am not gay or bi, I just like the cock"?

I am saying it doesn't matter whether that belief is legitimate or not.

That is what they believe, they are not being dishonest they simply believe differently.

Maybe they are wrong, maybe they are right. Who knows?

Ok then read this:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/sex-life-the-american-male/201504/straight-men-who-have-sex-other-men-part-one

You don't have to subscribe to the content. Just accept that others do.

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By *istressdandsubtCouple over a year ago

caterham

on the first part , why would he fab your pic , as with women who are straight and fab women's pics as they can appreciate a good looking woman so can a a man appreciate good looking men or a good looking or impressive cock , just take it as a complement - unless he is sending you messages .

as for being bi - when i grew up every guy fantasised about being with two women , but no one seemed to care what women wanted . as iv grown up and tried things i was amazed how many women like to be with 2 or more men at once and even more amazed how many want to see guy on guy play , now my point being that as you evolve your desires turn on evolve this is not to say you will suddenly turn bi or gay but those who are or have tried bi stuff may find that they actually really enjoy it , and in speaking to other bi couples alot of the women ask about bi play its not generally the guy that brings it up . if your a guy in a relationship and you do have bi tendancies i would say be honest , soeme woman are understanding some arnt , but life is way to short to be stuck where you cant be your self . now wife only wants us to meet bi couples or bi single guys single women yet to find lol

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By *ihimbiherCouple over a year ago

lightwater

"I am a full straight man and recently I noticed a single Male profile fabbed my cock pics. I wondered why a straight guy would fab about 3 of my cock pics so I enquired further. I looked at his verification and saw he had been meeting gay men and TV,s for sex.infact 90 percent of his veri were from guys or TV,s. His profile never said nothing about being gay or bi instead his profile depicts being straight. I had to write to him to enquire why he has to hide his sexuality but he just read n deleted my message.my point is why do gay/bi men do it. I believe in live n let live. If that's what u into good for you but why hide. Why pretend.. I wouldn't think of putting gay on my profile knowing I am straight. If u have a problem with being gay or u think it's wrong why do it then?? Be yr self is what I am saying in essence. What do you think or was I being out of order with my reply to him??"
looks like it’s you with the issue with yours if it bothers you that men can fan your cock pic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am a full straight man and recently I noticed a single Male profile fabbed my cock pics. I wondered why a straight guy would fab about 3 of my cock pics so I enquired further. I looked at his verification and saw he had been meeting gay men and TV,s for sex.infact 90 percent of his veri were from guys or TV,s. His profile never said nothing about being gay or bi instead his profile depicts being straight. I had to write to him to enquire why he has to hide his sexuality but he just read n deleted my message.my point is why do gay/bi men do it. I believe in live n let live. If that's what u into good for you but why hide. Why pretend.. I wouldn't think of putting gay on my profile knowing I am straight. If u have a problem with being gay or u think it's wrong why do it then?? Be yr self is what I am saying in essence. What do you think or was I being out of order with my reply to him??looks like it’s you with the issue with yours if it bothers you that men can fan your cock pic."

But not enough to block men...

I am bisexual but I have filtered single men on my profile...

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I am a full straight man and recently I noticed a single Male profile fabbed my cock pics. I wondered why a straight guy would fab about 3 of my cock pics so I enquired further. I looked at his verification and saw he had been meeting gay men and TV,s for sex.infact 90 percent of his veri were from guys or TV,s. His profile never said nothing about being gay or bi instead his profile depicts being straight. I had to write to him to enquire why he has to hide his sexuality but he just read n deleted my message.my point is why do gay/bi men do it. I believe in live n let live. If that's what u into good for you but why hide. Why pretend.. I wouldn't think of putting gay on my profile knowing I am straight. If u have a problem with being gay or u think it's wrong why do it then?? Be yr self is what I am saying in essence. What do you think or was I being out of order with my reply to him??looks like it’s you with the issue with yours if it bothers you that men can fan your cock pic."

Typical nunce... as usually misquoting me without looking deep at what I was frowning at... let me check.. ohh he is bi so he jumps to attack me. No surprise there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't understand it too, it's like there's one guy who gones like he's the number 1 stud @ the bbw party at Chams but one lady friend said that she saw him getting head off one male staff @ Chams on bi night. Why do these so call top studs hide?..

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I am a full straight man and recently I noticed a single Male profile fabbed my cock pics. I wondered why a straight guy would fab about 3 of my cock pics so I enquired further. I looked at his verification and saw he had been meeting gay men and TV,s for sex.infact 90 percent of his veri were from guys or TV,s. His profile never said nothing about being gay or bi instead his profile depicts being straight. I had to write to him to enquire why he has to hide his sexuality but he just read n deleted my message.my point is why do gay/bi men do it. I believe in live n let live. If that's what u into good for you but why hide. Why pretend.. I wouldn't think of putting gay on my profile knowing I am straight. If u have a problem with being gay or u think it's wrong why do it then?? Be yr self is what I am saying in essence. What do you think or was I being out of order with my reply to him??looks like it’s you with the issue with yours if it bothers you that men can fan your cock pic.

But not enough to block men...

I am bisexual but I have filtered single men on my profile..."

Same here

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I don't understand it too, it's like there's one guy who gones like he's the number 1 stud @ the bbw party at Chams but one lady friend said that she saw him getting head off one male staff @ Chams on bi night. Why do these so call top studs hide?..

I know who u mean and ge actually puts bi on his profile. He doesn't hide it.. so respect to him. That's what I am saying.. he is actually a humble guy.. I know the guy u talking about

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am a full straight man and recently I noticed a single Male profile fabbed my cock pics. I wondered why a straight guy would fab about 3 of my cock pics so I enquired further. I looked at his verification and saw he had been meeting gay men and TV,s for sex.infact 90 percent of his veri were from guys or TV,s. His profile never said nothing about being gay or bi instead his profile depicts being straight. I had to write to him to enquire why he has to hide his sexuality but he just read n deleted my message.my point is why do gay/bi men do it. I believe in live n let live. If that's what u into good for you but why hide. Why pretend.. I wouldn't think of putting gay on my profile knowing I am straight. If u have a problem with being gay or u think it's wrong why do it then?? Be yr self is what I am saying in essence. What do you think or was I being out of order with my reply to him??looks like it’s you with the issue with yours if it bothers you that men can fan your cock pic.

But not enough to block men...

I am bisexual but I have filtered single men on my profile...

Same here"

You're bisexual!!!!????

(Just kidding mate)

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

"I am a full straight man and recently I noticed a single Male profile fabbed my cock pics. I wondered why a straight guy would fab about 3 of my cock pics so I enquired further. I looked at his verification and saw he had been meeting gay men and TV,s for sex.infact 90 percent of his veri were from guys or TV,s. His profile never said nothing about being gay or bi instead his profile depicts being straight. I had to write to him to enquire why he has to hide his sexuality but he just read n deleted my message.my point is why do gay/bi men do it. I believe in live n let live. If that's what u into good for you but why hide. Why pretend.. I wouldn't think of putting gay on my profile knowing I am straight. If u have a problem with being gay or u think it's wrong why do it then?? Be yr self is what I am saying in essence. What do you think or was I being out of order with my reply to him??looks like it’s you with the issue with yours if it bothers you that men can fan your cock pic.

But not enough to block men...

I am bisexual but I have filtered single men on my profile...

Same here

You're bisexual!!!!????

(Just kidding mate)

Hahahaha..I know you are.seriously I appreciate the discussion. We learn every day and yr insight has helped me learn more. No malice on my part or anger..

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

This is obviously a sensitive topic as it's over 150 comments and counting. I have never put a topic up for discussion and woww this has gone haywire. I wanna thank all that commented. Both those that agreed and disagreed. Also those that abused and insulted me..lol..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I am a full straight man and recently I noticed a single Male profile fabbed my cock pics. I wondered why a straight guy would fab about 3 of my cock pics so I enquired further. I looked at his verification and saw he had been meeting gay men and TV,s for sex.infact 90 percent of his veri were from guys or TV,s. His profile never said nothing about being gay or bi instead his profile depicts being straight. I had to write to him to enquire why he has to hide his sexuality but he just read n deleted my message.my point is why do gay/bi men do it. I believe in live n let live. If that's what u into good for you but why hide. Why pretend.. I wouldn't think of putting gay on my profile knowing I am straight. If u have a problem with being gay or u think it's wrong why do it then?? Be yr self is what I am saying in essence. What do you think or was I being out of order with my reply to him??looks like it’s you with the issue with yours if it bothers you that men can fan your cock pic.

But not enough to block men...

I am bisexual but I have filtered single men on my profile...

Same here

You're bisexual!!!!????

(Just kidding mate)

Hahahaha..I know you are.seriously I appreciate the discussion. We learn every day and yr insight has helped me learn more. No malice on my part or anger..

That's really cool. In fact it's cool that you take heed of opposing views and weigh them on their merits. I wish everyone was like that on here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This is obviously a sensitive topic as it's over 150 comments and counting. I have never put a topic up for discussion and woww this has gone haywire. I wanna thank all that commented. Both those that agreed and disagreed. Also those that abused and insulted me..lol.. "

It's actually a well worn topic.

Before COVID-19 came along there was a thread a day on it.

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

It's actually a well worn topic.

Before COVID-19 came along there was a thread a day on it."

Hahahaha.. really.. and I was thinking I was the top dog in bringing up the topic.. silly me...

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By *ral_isthenewblack OP Man over a year ago

london

It's actually a well worn topic.

Before COVID-19 came along there was a thread a day on it."

Moreover yr profile name.. where da fuck did u come up with such a name.. hahahaha.. genius.. any reason behind it lol??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's actually a well worn topic.

Before COVID-19 came along there was a thread a day on it.

Moreover yr profile name.. where da fuck did u come up with such a name.. hahahaha.. genius.. any reason behind it lol??"

Well if you ever meet me in person, which I hope you do some day, you will find that I am nuttier than a box of frogs, but in a fun way (not in an axe murderer way).

I wanted "may contain nuts" but it was taken. I added the "full" because of the irony. At the time I was having sex with 5 to 7 women a week and my nuts ran on empty

I love a double entendre...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Perhaps the best way to explain this is with female bisexuality. My other and better half Miss C.

Some days she is in the mood for girl on girl. Some days she isn't she's only in the mood for men. Well by "definition" that makes her bisexual.

Sometimes we go to a club and it's one of those nights she's only in the mood for men. A couple or single woman might then approach her and she finds herself being hit on by another woman which is fair enough. But then when those advances are rejected, the woman in question sometimes says "but it says on your prifile you're bi!". No matter what is said after the woman is usually offended with a "you're bi, but not for me" attitude and things go sour.

Once you've labelled yourself you are then expected to behave within those limited parameters.

And you think why oh why does something so simple have to be SO complicated!!!!!

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By *_MariusMan over a year ago

Currently Faraway

"Perhaps the best way to explain this is with female bisexuality. My other and better half Miss C.

Some days she is in the mood for girl on girl. Some days she isn't she's only in the mood for men. Well by "definition" that makes her bisexual.

Once you've labelled yourself you are then expected to behave within those limited parameters.

And you think why oh why does something so simple have to be SO complicated!!!!!"

Again, I'll say it, your attitude itself of being laid back is a nice trait but you did say before that what IS a problem is men pretending to be bi and they end up aiming for the woman. Why is it not ok to be a pretend bi guy but it's ok if somebody says 'straight' on their profile but they're really not? Aren't these two situations kind-of different sides of the same coin?

And by the way I don't mean to come across as obtuse or like I am trying to wind up...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Another thing I might add is that as a swinger I have met literally thousands of people. No two of them have had the same personality.

Imagine if on fab, instead of having a profile narrative you had to choose a personality from a dropdown list and there were four or five personalities to choose from and none of them described you. You have to pick one so you pick the one that best describes you although it's way off. Then someone meets you and says you're dishonest because you don't comply with your personality dropdown choice?

I bet you if under sexual orientation there was the option "it changes depending on my mood", a lot of people would click it.

There's also a term 'bi playful' which means the person isn't bi at all but at the same time refuses to let someone else decide what they may or may not do with their own bodies. Rulebreakers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Perhaps the best way to explain this is with female bisexuality. My other and better half Miss C.

Some days she is in the mood for girl on girl. Some days she isn't she's only in the mood for men. Well by "definition" that makes her bisexual.

Once you've labelled yourself you are then expected to behave within those limited parameters.

And you think why oh why does something so simple have to be SO complicated!!!!!

And by the way I don't mean to come across as obtuse or like I am trying to wind up..."

Not at all. It's a fair question.

I am good friends with some wonderful straight men who come to male oriented bi nights. Don't mimd it at all they are open about their straitness. The problems start when the guy pretends to be bi, joins a couple and when the male of the couple touches him then he jumps out of his skin.

Personally I always ask before I ask anyone male or female if I may touch them because I believe consent to be the cornerstone of swinging. But if you are a straight man at a male oriented bi night and you are only interested in the lady of a couple this needs to be made clear up front. Because maybe it isn't the male's idea to sit and watch you and his woman have fun while he is left out. Just as likely the woman is looking forward to some guy on guy action she can't get to experience on "normal" club nights.

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By *_MariusMan over a year ago

Currently Faraway

"Perhaps the best way to explain this is with female bisexuality. My other and better half Miss C.

Some days she is in the mood for girl on girl. Some days she isn't she's only in the mood for men. Well by "definition" that makes her bisexual.

Once you've labelled yourself you are then expected to behave within those limited parameters.

And you think why oh why does something so simple have to be SO complicated!!!!!

And by the way I don't mean to come across as obtuse or like I am trying to wind up...

Not at all. It's a fair question.

You sound like a good addition to a bi house party.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Perhaps the best way to explain this is with female bisexuality. My other and better half Miss C.

Some days she is in the mood for girl on girl. Some days she isn't she's only in the mood for men. Well by "definition" that makes her bisexual.

Once you've labelled yourself you are then expected to behave within those limited parameters.

And you think why oh why does something so simple have to be SO complicated!!!!!

And by the way I don't mean to come across as obtuse or like I am trying to wind up...

Not at all. It's a fair question.

You sound like a good addition to a bi house party. "

Thank you

And when things return to normal please count us in

Invitations welcome!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i think black men are the worst for this. We have seen a lot of them be all macho then see a lot of these guys are at chams on a Monday night playing bi.

My preference is 100 % women

I’d never enter a relationship or meet another guy but when it comes to fun it’s just fun right?

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By *_MariusMan over a year ago

Currently Faraway

"Perhaps the best way to explain this is with female bisexuality. My other and better half Miss C.

Some days she is in the mood for girl on girl. Some days she isn't she's only in the mood for men. Well by "definition" that makes her bisexual.

Once you've labelled yourself you are then expected to behave within those limited parameters.

And you think why oh why does something so simple have to be SO complicated!!!!!

And by the way I don't mean to come across as obtuse or like I am trying to wind up...

Not at all. It's a fair question.

You sound like a good addition to a bi house party.

Thank you

And when things return to normal please count us in

Invitations welcome!"

It is genuinely within my intentions to host future bi parties where couples like you who come from far and wide can sleep over

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By *ikilovesCCouple over a year ago

village life, closest main town inverness

Absolutely this, the last sentence is quite right.

Whether we agree with the Op or not about hiding sexuality

it's disgraceful to single out and make some poor individual feel like shit

for what, after all, was just fabbing some pics, the point could

(and has been in the past) have been made without doing that

All that does is make even more feel the need to hide their true feelings.

This is the exact point I was trying to make initially but received a tirade back from the OP.

Miss V

Saw that, always the voice of reason lol

Thank you so much, that’s appreciated. I try to be but it backfires at times!

Not at all, it lets us see who the nice people are lol

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By *ikilovesCCouple over a year ago

village life, closest main town inverness

"Another thing I might add is that as a swinger I have met literally thousands of people. No two of them have had the same personality.

I bet you if under sexual orientation there was the option "it changes depending on my mood", a lot of people would click it.

There's also a term 'bi playful' which means the person isn't bi at all but at the same time refuses to let someone else decide what they may or may not do with their own bodies. Rulebreakers."

Yes have come across the term "bi playful" quite often when talking to people and think if it was a option for classification, it would suit a lot of people better

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By *emini ManMan over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Yes have come across the term "bi playful" quite often when talking to people and think if it was a option for classification, it would suit a lot of people better

Whilst I agree it would be a welcome addition, I think even then you'd get bisexual single guys identifying as straight though - the single biggest reason most of them do it is to get round the filters of ladies and couples that specifically state they won't meet bisexual men in the mistaken belief that those people are in the majority - in my experience they're very much in the minority and the vast majority either aren't bothered by my sexuality or actively seek it.

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By *ikilovesCCouple over a year ago

village life, closest main town inverness

Yes have come across the term "bi playful" quite often when talking to people and think if it was a option for classification, it would suit a lot of people better

No doubt you're right there gemini,

although I was meaning for ladies as well as men, it would do away with the rather more derogatory "pillow princess" tag that you often see

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why do couples say they only meet straight men?. Do they think Bi guys will just pounce on there husbands when there backs are turned?

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By *emini ManMan over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Yes have come across the term "bi playful" quite often when talking to people and think if it was a option for classification, it would suit a lot of people better

No doubt you're right there gemini,

although I was meaning for ladies as well as men, it would do away with the rather more derogatory "pillow princess" tag that you often see

Oh it would definitely be useful across genders, but am not sure it would do away with that particular term, which is more a description of someone who just takes and doesn't give pleasure to other women than of someone who is situationally bi

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By *emini ManMan over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Why do couples say they only meet straight men?. Do they think Bi guys will just pounce on there husbands when there backs are turned?

Some of them do yes, some may not want to because they give blood, others may be homophobic, some may simply have a preference not too - people not wanting to meet me because of my sexuality doesn't bother me in the slightest so long as they don't express that preference in bigoted or hateful terms

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By *nnocentimesMan over a year ago

over there by that tree

"most bi men prefer males even when women are available.i have yet to meet a bi guy who proritises woman before men."

What the actual fuck...... i lean heavily towards the ladies, taking the option to meet one over a man all day long.

Sweeping statements like that are simply not true.

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By *emini ManMan over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"most bi men prefer males even when women are available.i have yet to meet a bi guy who proritises woman before men.

What the actual fuck...... i lean heavily towards the ladies, taking the option to meet one over a man all day long.

Sweeping statements like that are simply not true. "

Not only are they untrue but they stoke the ridiculous fires of those that believe bi men can't keep their hands off a cock!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"most bi men prefer males even when women are available.i have yet to meet a bi guy who proritises woman before men.

What the actual fuck...... i lean heavily towards the ladies, taking the option to meet one over a man all day long.

Sweeping statements like that are simply not true. "

Some do prefer cock. Some bi men would fuck a hole in a wall. Some bi men would grab a straight man's cock for a suck without asking first.

Some don't. But some do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For me its fear of family and friends not talking to me....shouldnt be the case..but it is.

Just to add..im only bicurious lol.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"most bi men prefer males even when women are available.i have yet to meet a bi guy who proritises woman before men.

What the actual fuck...... i lean heavily towards the ladies, taking the option to meet one over a man all day long.

Sweeping statements like that are simply not true.

Some do prefer cock. Some bi men would fuck a hole in a wall. Some bi men would grab a straight man's cock for a suck without asking first.

Some don't. But some do."

Some men would fuck a hole in the wall but that has more to do with them being men not because they are bi.

I have found being bi makes me more attractive as a meet and as such don't have enough time to play with all the sexy people I could play with... that hole in the wall will have to wait I'm afraid.

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By *nnocentimesMan over a year ago

over there by that tree

"most bi men prefer males even when women are available.i have yet to meet a bi guy who proritises woman before men.

What the actual fuck...... i lean heavily towards the ladies, taking the option to meet one over a man all day long.

Sweeping statements like that are simply not true.

Some do prefer cock. Some bi men would fuck a hole in a wall. Some bi men would grab a straight man's cock for a suck without asking first.

Some don't. But some do."

Granted I’ve not been around as long as others... but in all areas of play this happens, how many leering straight men try and cop a feel of join in uninvited??

Some straight men would fuck a hole in a wall also.... and some women try and suck cock without asking!

Some is worded all a lot better than “most”

Even so this Bi verbal bashing has got to stop at some point. Granted we are all open to our own views, but generalisations banded around openly are grossly misrepresented towards most Bi guys.

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