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Good thread, interesting. Lots of couples change their boundaries in time. Lots go from soft swap to full swap. We actually did full swap in our youth 20 years ago. We've been going to clubs for 3 years and we have amazing horny times with Fem/Fem and soft swap. Neither of us craves having full sex with another partner. We have such great fun with soft swap, so that's what we do (no fiddling with condoms!)  |
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Started with soft swing, but thinking of going full swap when we next get to play again, whenever that’ll be. Not necessarily seeking it, but just seeing where things go and being more relaxed about it |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
Blackpool |
6 years ago we had a profile as soft swing ..a couple decided that we should contact them back when we grew up !!!...and go full swing ....all people are at different levels at different times in this life .. but hey thats swing life ..lol |
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"6 years ago we had a profile as soft swing ..a couple decided that we should contact them back when we grew up !!!...and go full swing ....all people are at different levels at different times in this life .. but hey thats swing life ..lol"
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"We always have and will be soft swap, so much fun can be had and some full swap friends admitted they had more fun in soft swing scenario, nice to reserve something just for us "
Less can be more sometimes dont you think...... |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"We started out fem on fem only soft swap then to full swap including kissing "
Kissing ah well ..some do ..some dont .... people seem more than happy with oral but sometimes say no to kisses ....  |
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We’re currently soft swing. Started off with lots of rules between us of things each had vetoed but that list is slowly getting shorter. I think there will be a point there we go full swap but we enjoy all the other stuff lots and there’s more to sex than just fucking.
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"We’re currently soft swing. Started off with lots of rules between us of things each had vetoed but that list is slowly getting shorter. I think there will be a point there we go full swap but we enjoy all the other stuff lots and there’s more to sex than just fucking.
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over a year ago
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"We’re currently soft swing. Started off with lots of rules between us of things each had vetoed but that list is slowly getting shorter. I think there will be a point there we go full swap but we enjoy all the other stuff lots and there’s more to sex than just fucking.
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"We’re currently soft swing. Started off with lots of rules between us of things each had vetoed but that list is slowly getting shorter. I think there will be a point there we go full swap but we enjoy all the other stuff lots and there’s more to sex than just fucking.
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Ah well the list of rules.goal posts move ..and ideas can alter over time ... |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"Well it’s all about learning more about us as a couple too..... growing together and enjoy new things together"
Totally agree ...for us we have a great time socially and saucily ..  ..and made us even closer as a couple ...our little secret .x |
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"We started out fem on fem only soft swap then to full swap including kissing Kissing ah well ..some do ..some dont .... people seem more than happy with oral but sometimes say no to kisses .... "
We never thought we do kissing but then we never thought we full swap |
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We began with soft swap, no kissing. Eventually the frustration got the better of us both and we now full swap, kiss and play in separate rooms when appropriate. We usually join back up with each other towards the end of the evening. |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"We started out fem on fem only soft swap then to full swap including kissing Kissing ah well ..some do ..some dont .... people seem more than happy with oral but sometimes say no to kisses ....
We never thought we do kissing but then we never thought we full swap "
them goal posts do seem to move around lol |
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Different meets different experiences we do both dependant on the other couple or single person with the conversations and boundaries. As the male with a couple then it can just be sensual massage and caressing then watch them make love. Each experience is interesting and different which adds to the fun and variety. |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"Different meets different experiences we do both dependant on the other couple or single person with the conversations and boundaries. As the male with a couple then it can just be sensual massage and caressing then watch them make love. Each experience is interesting and different which adds to the fun and variety. "
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I think we went on the same fab journey as lots do
We met as 2 singles in fab and are now married , full swap and happier than ever
We use to go to clubs out of necessity , we were both going through break ups
We always played in a locked room , but weren't shy about being in the hot tub etc
Then it went to a room with a window , then the couples room , when it was empty ,
Then eventually, there's someone in there and you think , we it doesn't mean we have to do anything with them
Eventually we got a couple's profile and we were soft swap for a long time ,
Which caused all sorts of issues , for us it was all in , bar penetration
People were like , you kiss ? You lady is bi , we don't do this or that etc
To get us into the idea of full swap , the lovely Mrs j suggested some 3 sums with a guy
And now we've tried it all lol
I love to see her being enjoyed and enjoying herself , and it's very much vice versa
Plenty of times I stop to watch her , and she's already stopped to watch me
Plenty of times we've been to a club and not even dressed down , as long as you talk and go with what you are happy with , then it's all good |
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We'll generally prefer meeting couples that are full swap but have had enough meets that only ever go soft swap to never get hung up on it. It's just good to know theres an option if everyone wants and a session goes that way.
Then it feels fun and not pre planned so much. |
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I think the no expectations rule is the way to go
We've had nights when we are not feeling it and nights that have been great
If you go with the flow , you are more likely to have a fun time , there's no need to put the pressure on before you even get there |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"I think the no expectations rule is the way to go
We've had nights when we are not feeling it and nights that have been great
If you go with the flow , you are more likely to have a fun time , there's no need to put the pressure on before you even get there "
Agree with what you say... to go with the flow & enjoy what happens with no massive expectations can be lovely/sexxy/saucy rolled into one |
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"I think the no expectations rule is the way to go
We've had nights when we are not feeling it and nights that have been great
If you go with the flow , you are more likely to have a fun time , there's no need to put the pressure on before you even get there Agree with what you say... to go with the flow & enjoy what happens with no massive expectations can be lovely/sexxy/saucy rolled into one "
this hate guys who want a blow by blow of what we like and will happen just go with the flow is our way .. |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I think the no expectations rule is the way to go
We've had nights when we are not feeling it and nights that have been great
If you go with the flow , you are more likely to have a fun time , there's no need to put the pressure on before you even get there Agree with what you say... to go with the flow & enjoy what happens with no massive expectations can be lovely/sexxy/saucy rolled into one this hate guys who want a blow by blow of what we like and will happen just go with the flow is our way .. "
thats the difference with hooking up with couples ..single guys can have a different agenda sometimes... |
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If there's a hidden agenda then it would be a no from us
No one takes one for the team , and a no from one of us , is a no from the pair of us
That's something that some people struggle to understand
We laugh at the number of guys who aren't confident enough to approach a couple , but are happy to try there luck once Mr nips to the loo and Mrs is just sat at the bar (or just looks and talks directly at the Mrs and totally blanks Mr, like that’s gonna work!) |
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Yeh we’ve chatted to a few of them lol
We like to have a social first and always a conversation on what’s off limits from both sides. Prefer to know up front so everyone is comfortable and knows dos and dont’s rather than stopping play to say no and killing momentum |
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"Yeh we’ve chatted to a few of them lol
We like to have a social first and always a conversation on what’s off limits from both sides. Prefer to know up front so everyone is comfortable and knows dos and dont’s rather than stopping play to say no and killing momentum "
Yep we much prefer a social first, even if that social turns into a play meet. (When I say we, that’s me the Mrs!) |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"Yeh we’ve chatted to a few of them lol
We like to have a social first and always a conversation on what’s off limits from both sides. Prefer to know up front so everyone is comfortable and knows dos and dont’s rather than stopping play to say no and killing momentum
Yep we much prefer a social first, even if that social turns into a play meet. (When I say we, that’s me the Mrs!) "
For us the lady should always have the last say in how the meet goes .. |
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We initially said we'd start soft... But in the build up on the evening S said if I wanted to go further he'd be fine with it (he was staying at home I planned on sending a couple of videos)
Anyway got there 2 hours later it was definitely not soft swing lol i clapped eyes on his massive cock and went in for the kill lol and that was that.
God I'm missing a good cock  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"we've gone from full swap to soft swing. Its all about doing what you want not what you think you should "
I absolutely agree with this. I think we jumped in way too early thinking we could go from singles to a couple and it not create issues or there be expectation there due to being so liberal as a single.
I've no interest at the moment, I could easily walk away.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We started off soft swing with no kissing... we now (when not under lockdown) only meet full swap couples who kiss (and the occasional GB!) So yes peoples boundaries def change. |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"If there's a hidden agenda then it would be a no from us
No one takes one for the team , and a no from one of us , is a no from the pair of us
That's something that some people struggle to understand
We laugh at the number of guys who aren't confident enough to approach a couple , but are happy to try there luck once Mr nips to the loo and Mrs is just sat at the bar (or just looks and talks directly at the Mrs and totally blanks Mr, like that’s gonna work!)"
We only meet single guys who understand us as a couple ..and how we like to play |
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over a year ago
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"We took a route many others have probably taken, single girl first, then soft and then full. Now we are very relaxed and don’t expect anything from anyone other then all being comfortable"
This is the route that we started to take just prior to lockdown. As we’re very new to the scene soft swap is going to be the way we progress until we are both comfortable. However, that may change all depending on the couple and the situation. But there’s no pressure on either of us
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over a year ago
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We started as soft swing to make sure, we were okay with it and there was no jealous feelings.
We swiftly moved on to full swap and haven't looked back since.
Just go at your own pace, everyone is different and there are plenty of soft swap only couples. |
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"We took a route many others have probably taken, single girl first, then soft and then full. Now we are very relaxed and don’t expect anything from anyone other then all being comfortable
This is the route that we started to take just prior to lockdown. As we’re very new to the scene soft swap is going to be the way we progress until we are both comfortable. However, that may change all depending on the couple and the situation. But there’s no pressure on either of us
L x"
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Our first 3 or 4 meets were all with single men mostly straight to se as we moved on to couples the social side has become more important we would soft swap with couples but definitely prefer full swap |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Our first 3 or 4 meets were all with single men mostly straight to se as we moved on to couples the social side has become more important we would soft swap with couples but definitely prefer full swap "
the social element is vital for us as we feel you gotta like the people you may get to play with later ..
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"Our first 3 or 4 meets were all with single men mostly straight to se as we moved on to couples the social side has become more important we would soft swap with couples but definitely prefer full swap the social element is vital for us as we feel you gotta like the people you may get to play with later .. "
We could never do wham bam meets it's all about the sensual aspect for us and Mr on my own. There has to be a connection for it to work as far as I'm concerned. |
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"Our first 3 or 4 meets were all with single men mostly straight to se as we moved on to couples the social side has become more important we would soft swap with couples but definitely prefer full swap the social element is vital for us as we feel you gotta like the people you may get to play with later .. "
in hindsight it was more nerves than anything as we were just starting out we always meet in a neutral venue for social now
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Tried full swap, wasn't for us, so been soft swap since.
We love the things we can do without it leading to the ultimate, and if you can find the right people, plenty of fun can be had. |
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"6 years ago we had a profile as soft swing ..a couple decided that we should contact them back when we grew up !!!...and go full swing ....all people are at different levels at different times in this life .. but hey thats swing life ..lol"
Block list straight away. People may never decide to do full swap and that’s there own choice once everyone is enjoying themselves who cares. I think we go to every meet with the expectation of having a few drinks and a chat and after that what ever happens happens |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"6 years ago we had a profile as soft swing ..a couple decided that we should contact them back when we grew up !!!...and go full swing ....all people are at different levels at different times in this life .. but hey thats swing life ..lol
Block list straight away. People may never decide to do full swap and that’s there own choice once everyone is enjoying themselves who cares. I think we go to every meet with the expectation of having a few drinks and a chat and after that what ever happens happens "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How many couples start soft swing and move on to full on later....or stay soft swing for their own reasons ?"
This was definitely a natural progression for us..started off just being about ffm and before i knew it i was comfortable with much more |
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What a great thread! Interesting comments and it’s not gone off track or got heated.
We are not an average m/f couple so for us the dynamics of play can sometimes be different. At the moment we are mainly soft swap but our boundaries are changing the more we explore and discover the things we enjoy.
The most important thing is that we are both in agreement about the direction this takes us in going forward. I would never have dreamt that sharing the person I love with others could have enriched our relationship so much
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well we are different i suppose , we are a bi couple , male half generally soft swings and fem full swings , i love to see her enjoying herself and only fuck other women when she tells me two , so for us its double hard to find play partners as most want both to do the same yet most couples look for single girls , funny you would think couples would jump at the chance to have the wife an have male half as a voyeur or butler to serve all |
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By *itzimadCouple
over a year ago
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i think most people start with a raft of rules and slowly or sometimes quickly they go out the window
i think what happens is you re define normal we like many came to swinging for the extra girl when we first saw a group on a bed we were slightly shocked 6 weeks later we were with them
what most people think of as the norm is a couple having sex when youve seen all sorts of scenarios your perception of normal changes one of the truest sayings is
define normal
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"i think most people start with a raft of rules and slowly or sometimes quickly they go out the window
i think what happens is you re define normal we like many came to swinging for the extra girl when we first saw a group on a bed we were slightly shocked 6 weeks later we were with them
what most people think of as the norm is a couple having sex when youve seen all sorts of scenarios your perception of normal changes one of the truest sayings is
define normal
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hey we are all normalish...different ...and similar sometimes but not all the same ....all of the time ....lol...agree the more you see the more you can accept as normal in this life |
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"Yeh we’ve chatted to a few of them lol
We like to have a social first and always a conversation on what’s off limits from both sides. Prefer to know up front so everyone is comfortable and knows dos and dont’s rather than stopping play to say no and killing momentum
Yep we much prefer a social first, even if that social turns into a play meet. (When I say we, that’s me the Mrs!) For us the lady should always have the last say in how the meet goes .. "
But if it’s a yes from me (Mrs) and a no from Mr J it’s a no for both of us, no arguments. We’ve agreed no one takes one for the team x |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Yeh we’ve chatted to a few of them lol
We like to have a social first and always a conversation on what’s off limits from both sides. Prefer to know up front so everyone is comfortable and knows dos and dont’s rather than stopping play to say no and killing momentum
Yep we much prefer a social first, even if that social turns into a play meet. (When I say we, that’s me the Mrs!) For us the lady should always have the last say in how the meet goes ..
But if it’s a yes from me (Mrs) and a no from Mr J it’s a no for both of us, no arguments. We’ve agreed no one takes one for the team x"
thats why social meet ups are crucial ..so everyone can meet and see if the chemistry /attractions felt |
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Different meets different experiences we do both dependant on the other couple or single person with the conversations and boundaries. As the male with a couple then it can just be sensual massage and caressing then watch them make love. Each experience is interesting and different which adds to the fun and variety. "
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By *ensual 2 OP Couple
over a year ago
Blackpool |
"I think the no expectations rule is the way to go
We've had nights when we are not feeling it and nights that have been great
If you go with the flow , you are more likely to have a fun time , there's no need to put the pressure on before you even get there "
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